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Re: `news about jws

2018-04-28 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Olusegun,

I second, third and fourth to a million agree with you whole heartedly. When 
I found out these companies get funding from the government. I was really 
annoyed as well.


I too will never subscribe to jws and stick with window-eyes till I can't 
use it any more.


Have a great wekend Brother.

Live long and prosper, John

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B J wrote in part:

"When we bought a copy of Office that copy lasted and will last for years.
I'm still using a 2007 copy of office on my windows 7 machine. If I had 
paid
a monthly subscription for that length of time. I could have bought at 
least

8 copied of office."

I'm in your boat, brother!  I won't ever purchase any app that's
subscription based even if the cost is 50 cents a year!  Sounds horrible 
but
I can live with it.  Like B J, I have been using Office 2007; even though 
I
received a note from Microsoft that support for Office 2007 has ended, it 
is

still serving me well and I am yet to find a need for an upgrade to the
latest Office bell and whistle.  I read about folks struggling with
something called Back Stage and how to disable it.  Yikes, make an app
better if necessary, just don't make it too complicated in order to get 
this

done.

I'm interested in knowing whether or not the laws in the books can be
invoked when it comes to dealing with adaptive app and equipment 
companies.

Look at Humanware; it created the BrailleNote Touch and deployed a
deprecated copy of the Android OS on it; it still sells for more than
$5,000!  How about HIMS?  It claims to run on Android 5.1.1 which will 
soon
become deprecated as well.  And it sells for $6,000!  In both situations, 
no

path for an upgrade and, worst still, the freedom Android offers is
nonexistent.  Example:  In Android Land, you can install and use your own
preferred TTS engine.  What nonsense if I dare say so!

For as long as is possible, I shall continue to look at products in the
mainstream.  As I slowly KISS WINDOWS goodbye, I won't have to worry about
the shenanigans of screen reader developers for this OS!  I will not pay 
one

cent for any type of Jaws subscription.  Until my WINDOWS machines all die
naturally, I'll STICK WITH WINDOW-EYES which still PUTS SOME GREAT FOOD on
my wee, small table!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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Re: `news about jws

2018-04-28 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Lynn,

My apologies if the names I called those at the top of the tree in VFO 
offended you. My sheer anger and frustration has overwhelmed me. It is 
rarely I make such statements and more so on this list. I've never been so 
angry or upset at a situation where blind people will be forced to pay much 
more than they are just now. Please believe me it won't be the same price as 
now. That I can guarantee. Just look at the price of Microsoft windows 365 
office. Remember, that is not just for one or two years. that is for life. 
When we bought a copy of Office that copy lasted and will last for years. 
I'm still using a 2007 copy of office on my windows 7 machine. If I had paid 
a monthly subscription for that length of time. I could have bought at least 
8 copied of office.


I could say a lot more Lynn regarding the merger and subsequent demise of 
Window-eyes. Call it conspiracy theory or not. Had this happened in the up 
they would have been referred to the Monopolies commission. I don't 
apologies for using those names because that is how I feel towards them. 
Them meaning those at the top. Not the employees. I am not normally this way 
about things and don't easily get annoyed. People that know me would agree 
with that. I hate to see blind or disabled people getting ripped off and 
treated the way we are.


I recently learned that companies who produce adaptive technology for the 
disabled and blind get government grants. How much I have no idea. I have a 
copy of jws and will continue to use window-eyes till I can't use it any 
more.


Live long and prosper, John



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Re: `news about jws

2018-04-27 Thread bj colt via Talk


hi Shannon,

From a reliable source in Canada. Apparently it was widely spread at the 

scun conference.

I'm only going on what |I was informed. Whether it is true or not. I have no 
idea.


Live long and prosper, John

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Where did you get this news?
I don't get a news letter.
Shannon
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Subject: `news about jws

Hi Folks,

I recieved an email this morning and it informed me that jws is going to
become a subscription based product. Now it all makes sense, getting rid 
of

the opposition first. No or very little competittion. This will be
interesting how it is going to work?

I'm not going to say how I feel inside but needless to say corrupt, evil
sociopathic Narsasists come to mind.

I genuinly and sincerely hope that as many blind people don't subscribe.

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`news about jws

2018-04-27 Thread bj colt via Talk

Hi Folks,

I recieved an email this morning and it informed me that jws is going to become 
a subscription based product. Now it all makes sense, getting rid of the 
opposition first. No or very little competittion. This will be interesting how 
it is going to work?

I'm not going to say how I feel inside but needless to say corrupt, evil 
sociopathic Narsasists come to mind. 

I genuinly and sincerely hope that as many blind people don't subscribe. 

Live long and prosper, John
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Re: Musings and touching base

2018-04-11 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Brenda,

I think most of us care, I do. When I read a familiar name on other lists, 
it brings back some nice memories. I can't wash away 18 years or more of the 
gw micro list and everyone I knew on there, including you Brenda. It is a 
loss, a really sad loss.


I could say a lot about my feelings  regarding things. I won't but in time I 
will express my thoughts.


Live long and prosper, John

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Hello Lists,

I was cleaning out my emails and ran across a bunch from GW-Micro staff 
and various list posts. Made me feel kinda sad.  It's been around a year 
since our beloved Window-eyes went the way of DOS and Word perfect. I 
still have my win7 machine but use the replacement provided by the 
conquerer because I need to get used to using it. Actually, I don't even 
get on the computer much. I'm  using FF 52.?? and am hoping Mozilla makes 
FF 57 and beyond accessible again. I usually use my phone and am 
considering getting a tablet with a keyboard but wonder how safe they are 
from  viruses.


Anyway, I read a lot of the posts on these two lists and wanted to let you 
all know I'm still around, not that you really care, and that I still miss 
Window-Eyes and the wonderful staff at GW-Micro. Still wonder where they 
all went and hoping the best for them and all of you listers.


Brenda
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Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Pam,

I will give ie a try later and let you know if it makes any difference. 

Live long and prosper, John 
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Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Pam,

I too have been getting the silence and i'm not sure what the cause is. I 
think it's the internet being so busy. I got an upgrade to my tv box on 
Virgin media yesterday and the difference is amazing. No hang ups at all. 
Fingers crossed. It might be that firefox could be the problem as well. I 
haven't tried internet explorer as it is a terrible program as well.


What browser are you using? It might be interesting to see if others on the 
list are fairing out with different browsers?


Live long and prosper, John

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I use window eyes, too, but I have been having a problem with window eyes. 
It doesn't read some kinds of email correctly, specifically the ones that 
come from yahoomail.  Some lists are on yahoo.  It jumps lines.  One time 
when window eyes stopped talking and I had to have them fix it for me, 
they downloaded it from there and the problem went away.  But after that, 
I had to reformat my hard drive, and when we downloaded it from the disk 
and got the updates, it went back to its stupid reading problem.  Also, it 
will suddenly lose focus and go silent.  Otherwise, I would use it 
forever.  I'm using it right now.  Pam.


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Hi Pam,

Jws is the most cumbersome, antiquated interface imaginable. to is 
sluggish,

clunky, long winded and I agree it is the worst screen reader of it's
supposed class in the universe, in the known Universe.lol I detest it.

I gave it a go and right from the start it started to bug me. I will
continue to use window-eyes till I can't use it any more. I'm also 
sticking

to windows 7 as long as I can as well.

I used to think that everyone who always promoted jws over window-eyes
hadn't really tried window-eyes. Now I know they didn'to, they couldn't 
have

or they would have seen what we have seen about the most frustrating and
overpriced screen reader on the market.

Live long and prosper, John

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Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Pam,

Jws is the most cumbersome, antiquated interface imaginable. to is sluggish, 
clunky, long winded and I agree it is the worst screen reader of it's 
supposed class in the universe, in the known Universe.lol I detest it.


I gave it a go and right from the start it started to bug me. I will 
continue to use window-eyes till I can't use it any more. I'm also sticking 
to windows 7 as long as I can as well.


I used to think that everyone who always promoted jws over window-eyes 
hadn't really tried window-eyes. Now I know they didn'to, they couldn't have 
or they would have seen what we have seen about the most frustrating and 
overpriced screen reader on the market.


Live long and prosper, John 


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Re: outlook 2016 question

2018-02-16 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Steve,

Absolutly no problem at all. I'm guilty of the same thing.lol I will pass 
your message on to Marilyn. Your instructions are clear so she should have 
no problem following them.


Have a fantastic weekend and hope the weather is better there than here. 
According to the weather office, we could be in for some kind of cold 
vortex. Something about the jet stream doing something strange.lol Maybe 
Marilyn adjusted something in outlook and move the stream somewhere.lol Only 
joking. Thanks again Steve.


Live long and prosper, John

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Subject: RE: outlook 2016 question


BJ,

Wow, I put this message aside until I could go to the Outlook calendar and
check the options and then completely forgot about it.  I apologize for
that.

Unfortunately, some behaviors of Outlook vary from version to version, but
she should try the following.

Go to the Calendar folder.  I press ALT-Y, arrow to calendar and press
ENTER.

Then bring up the "View" tab on the ribbon.  I press ALT-V, but I believe
this did not work for a while.  Usually, one can also press the ALT key to
bring up the ribbon and press the RIGHT ARROW until one hears "View."

Then press TAB to Arrange By and press ENTER.  There will be a number of
buttons for different slices of time such as "Day", "Week", "Work Week", 
and

"Month."  Even those these may be announced as buttons, the view that is
currently chosen will say "Checked" with the corresponding button.  TAB to
"Month" and press ENTER and see if that changes the view back to what she
wants.

I hope this helps and that it gets her close enough to get it working as 
she

would like.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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To: steve.jacob...@visi.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: outlook 2016 question

Hi Steve,

I am writing to you direct but it is a w.e and outlook question. My friend
somehow altered the view of her outlook calendar. . I helped her change 
the

view to normal and she is happy with that. This one I would imagine is
simple but I don't use outlook. This is her problem

The calendar under number two key, however is a strange new one that says
every half hour times  for every day.  What I had before was just a layout
similar to a regular sighted calendar where the days were in a horizontal
row and you could arrow around and find out if the 4th of March was on 
which


day of the week.  I think she wants the calendar to be viewd as the type 
on

the little tags on those old fashioned picture cards. I don't know which
version of outlook she has but it definitly uses the ribbon andnot menu's.

Have you any idea how to change the calendar view to the type of view she
wants? Any help would be very much appreciated.

Live long and prosper, John

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Richard,

I missed part of this thread, but if you are not receiving email that you
believe you should be receiving, the Focused In-box "feature" was 
probably

turned on by an Outlook 2016 update.  If you tab around the message list
screen, you should find a button that says "Other In-box."  If you press
that you should get to the normal in-box.  If this is the case and you
want
to turn that feature off, go to the "View" tab on the ribbon and uncheck
the
"Focused In-box" option.  It may be identified as a "button" but it will
say
it is checked when it is on.  When the Focus In-box feature is on, your
in-box will contain the email Microsoft believes you want to read first.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Subject: outlook 2016 question

When I hit altvab what should be selected? I have nothing selected I have
show in groups unchecked which is what I want and I also have sort
messages
in ascending order which is what I want. I didn't receive any messages at
all at work so far and usually there is  messages from the windoweyes 
talk

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Re: outlook 2016 question

2018-02-13 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Steve,

I am writing to you direct but it is a w.e and outlook question. My friend 
somehow altered the view of her outlook calendar. . I helped her change the 
view to normal and she is happy with that. This one I would imagine is 
simple but I don't use outlook. This is her problem


The calendar under number two key, however is a strange new one that says 
every half hour times  for every day.  What I had before was just a layout 
similar to a regular sighted calendar where the days were in a horizontal 
row and you could arrow around and find out if the 4th of March was on which 
day of the week.  I think she wants the calendar to be viewd as the type on 
the little tags on those old fashioned picture cards. I don't know which 
version of outlook she has but it definitly uses the ribbon andnot menu's.


Have you any idea how to change the calendar view to the type of view she 
wants? Any help would be very much appreciated.


Live long and prosper, John

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To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
Cc: "Steve Jacobson" 
Subject: RE: outlook 2016 question


Richard,

I missed part of this thread, but if you are not receiving email that you
believe you should be receiving, the Focused In-box "feature" was probably
turned on by an Outlook 2016 update.  If you tab around the message list
screen, you should find a button that says "Other In-box."  If you press
that you should get to the normal in-box.  If this is the case and you 
want
to turn that feature off, go to the "View" tab on the ribbon and uncheck 
the
"Focused In-box" option.  It may be identified as a "button" but it will 
say

it is checked when it is on.  When the Focus In-box feature is on, your
in-box will contain the email Microsoft believes you want to read first.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Cc: Kurlander Richard (75) 
Subject: outlook 2016 question

When I hit altvab what should be selected? I have nothing selected I have
show in groups unchecked which is what I want and I also have sort 
messages

in ascending order which is what I want. I didn't receive any messages at
all at work so far and usually there is  messages from the windoweyes talk
list.
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Re: CHRISTMAS!

2017-12-27 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Carol,

Thank you so much for the information. I will give it a try.

Good wishes for the new year ahead. May it bring you peace and happiness, BJ

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Hi BJ,

The Fire tablet comes with VoiceView.  My only problem with it is trying 
to type in edit boxes.  You can use a USB keyboard with a little USB 
dongle, which I purchased from Amazon for around $5. BlueTooth keyboards 
work also.  If you can't do something with the keyboard, you can do the 
gesture on the tablet.  There are lots of things that can be done.


Carol


On 12/26/2017 7:11 PM, bj colt via Talk wrote:

Hi Carol,

You have got me interested in the Amazon fire tablet. I just bought one 
for my friend for Christmas.


I have no idea but does it have speech built in or is Google speech 
capable of being installed on it?


I too am like you and will use window-eyes till I can't use it any more. 
I have dabble with jws but find it slow and cumbersome.lol


Christmas Wishes, Bj

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Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

Yes, I also love my Alexa.  I also have a Fire tablet, which has Alexa 
on it.  When I got my tablet, I was tryig to set up my email and was 
shocked to see over 400 contacts, over 300 of which I had not contacted 
either more than once or had not contacted since 2014.  There was a 
delete all button, but it just took me by surprise.  Yes, they already 
have more information about us than anyone has guessed.


As for the Win10, with a microphone, I believe Coortana or ever how you 
spell it, will be doing a lot more, also.  I still like Window-Eyes, but 
know that eventually, Microsoft will update us completely out of it. 
Meanwhile, I will use it as long as I can. I do practice with jaws, but 
am a die hard WE user.


Take care,

Carol


On 12/26/2017 8:49 AM, bj colt via Talk wrote:

Hi Carol,

I'm still using windows 7 and Firefox. I installed the extended edition 
and it works for me. It is slow though. I had my other pc refurbished 
and they put windows 10 on it. I use a program called Reaper for multi 
track recording and there is a conflict in windows 10. I have to get 
windows 7 back on it.lol


I will give it a try before Isend it back.lol

I'm a bit like my African grey parrot. Slow to accept new things. I 
think if it works don't fix it.lol Good luck with windows 10. I was 
chatting to a friend and I think that technology is moving towards 
voice activation. Have you any thoughts on it? Like this Amazon Alexi. 
Think that's what it's called. Some of my blind friends love it. I'm 
not sure about it yet. At the moment I think it is too invasive.


Christmas Greetings, BJ

--
From: "Carol and Roger via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:18 PM
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

Yes, Thank you.  I now have a very new and quite a bit daunting 
computer with Windows 10.  I have installed Window-Eyes on it and am 
going to start moving files over this week.  I am a bit behind on 
things like ribbons, so it is taking a little longer for me to get my 
head wrapped around things. Funny, but the old PC seems to be running 
a bit better, except, of course, the browsers, grin.  I suppose I 
would get more familiar with the new one if I would just stop using 
the other one. Take care.


Carol


On 12/26/2017 5:52 AM, bj colt via Talk wrote:

Hi Carol,

Thank you for your kind thoughts. I hope you too are well? Not doing 
great but have a battle to face in the new year. I will get through 
it though and come out the other side smiling.


I'm still enjoying Christmas and like most over ate.lol

Hope Santa was good to you as well.

Christmas Wishes, BJ

--
From: "Carol and Roger via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:07 AM
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!


Hey BJ,

It's been a long time.  Merry Christmas.  Hope you are well and wish 
you a great New Year.


Carol

For the rest of us that are still celebraring, enjoy the rest of 
your Christm

Re: CHRISTMAS!

2017-12-26 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Carol,

You have got me interested in the Amazon fire tablet. I just bought one for 
my friend for Christmas.


I have no idea but does it have speech built in or is Google speech capable 
of being installed on it?


I too am like you and will use window-eyes till I can't use it any more. I 
have dabble with jws but find it slow and cumbersome.lol


Christmas Wishes, Bj

--
From: "Carol and Roger via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 4:39 PM
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

Yes, I also love my Alexa.  I also have a Fire tablet, which has Alexa on 
it.  When I got my tablet, I was tryig to set up my email and was shocked 
to see over 400 contacts, over 300 of which I had not contacted either 
more than once or had not contacted since 2014.  There was a delete all 
button, but it just took me by surprise.  Yes, they already have more 
information about us than anyone has guessed.


As for the Win10, with a microphone, I believe Coortana or ever how you 
spell it, will be doing a lot more, also.  I still like Window-Eyes, but 
know that eventually, Microsoft will update us completely out of it. 
Meanwhile, I will use it as long as I can. I do practice with jaws, but am 
a die hard WE user.


Take care,

Carol


On 12/26/2017 8:49 AM, bj colt via Talk wrote:

Hi Carol,

I'm still using windows 7 and Firefox. I installed the extended edition 
and it works for me. It is slow though. I had my other pc refurbished and 
they put windows 10 on it. I use a program called Reaper for multi track 
recording and there is a conflict in windows 10. I have to get windows 7 
back on it.lol


I will give it a try before Isend it back.lol

I'm a bit like my African grey parrot. Slow to accept new things. I think 
if it works don't fix it.lol Good luck with windows 10. I was chatting to 
a friend and I think that technology is moving towards voice activation. 
Have you any thoughts on it? Like this Amazon Alexi. Think that's what 
it's called. Some of my blind friends love it. I'm not sure about it yet. 
At the moment I think it is too invasive.


Christmas Greetings, BJ

--
From: "Carol and Roger via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:18 PM
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

Yes, Thank you.  I now have a very new and quite a bit daunting computer 
with Windows 10.  I have installed Window-Eyes on it and am going to 
start moving files over this week.  I am a bit behind on things like 
ribbons, so it is taking a little longer for me to get my head wrapped 
around things. Funny, but the old PC seems to be running a bit better, 
except, of course, the browsers, grin.  I suppose I would get more 
familiar with the new one if I would just stop using the other one. 
Take care.


Carol


On 12/26/2017 5:52 AM, bj colt via Talk wrote:

Hi Carol,

Thank you for your kind thoughts. I hope you too are well? Not doing 
great but have a battle to face in the new year. I will get through it 
though and come out the other side smiling.


I'm still enjoying Christmas and like most over ate.lol

Hope Santa was good to you as well.

Christmas Wishes, BJ

--
From: "Carol and Roger via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:07 AM
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!


Hey BJ,

It's been a long time.  Merry Christmas.  Hope you are well and wish 
you a great New Year.


Carol

For the rest of us that are still celebraring, enjoy the rest of your 
Christmas.


Carol



On 12/25/2017 6:40 PM, bj colt via Talk wrote:
Merry Christmas to everyone. I hope their is a light that shines in 
everyones home today. The light of peace, friendship and love.


Christmas
Wishes John

-Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

And a blessed Christmas to you also.

Norene



-Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:57 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Bob Tinney
Subject: CHRISTMAS!

We wish you and yours a very Merry and joyful Christmas,

and a very Happy, peaceful  and prosperous New Year!



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Re: CHRISTMAS!

2017-12-26 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Carol,

I'm still using windows 7 and Firefox. I installed the extended edition and 
it works for me. It is slow though. I had my other pc refurbished and they 
put windows 10 on it. I use a program called Reaper for multi track 
recording and there is a conflict in windows 10. I have to get windows 7 
back on it.lol


I will give it a try before Isend it back.lol

I'm a bit like my African grey parrot. Slow to accept new things. I think if 
it works don't fix it.lol Good luck with windows 10. I was chatting to a 
friend and I think that technology is moving towards voice activation. Have 
you any thoughts on it? Like this Amazon Alexi. Think that's what it's 
called. Some of my blind friends love it. I'm not sure about it yet. At the 
moment I think it is too invasive.


Christmas Greetings, BJ

--
From: "Carol and Roger via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:18 PM
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

Yes, Thank you.  I now have a very new and quite a bit daunting computer 
with Windows 10.  I have installed Window-Eyes on it and am going to start 
moving files over this week.  I am a bit behind on things like ribbons, so 
it is taking a little longer for me to get my head wrapped around things. 
Funny, but the old PC seems to be running a bit better, except, of course, 
the browsers, grin.  I suppose I would get more familiar with the new one 
if I would just stop using the other one.  Take care.


Carol


On 12/26/2017 5:52 AM, bj colt via Talk wrote:

Hi Carol,

Thank you for your kind thoughts. I hope you too are well? Not doing 
great but have a battle to face in the new year. I will get through it 
though and come out the other side smiling.


I'm still enjoying Christmas and like most over ate.lol

Hope Santa was good to you as well.

Christmas Wishes, BJ

--
From: "Carol and Roger via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:07 AM
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!


Hey BJ,

It's been a long time.  Merry Christmas.  Hope you are well and wish you 
a great New Year.


Carol

For the rest of us that are still celebraring, enjoy the rest of your 
Christmas.


Carol



On 12/25/2017 6:40 PM, bj colt via Talk wrote:
Merry Christmas to everyone. I hope their is a light that shines in 
everyones home today. The light of peace, friendship and love.


Christmas
Wishes John

-Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

And a blessed Christmas to you also.

Norene



-Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:57 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Bob Tinney
Subject: CHRISTMAS!

We wish you and yours a very Merry and joyful Christmas,

and a very Happy, peaceful  and prosperous New Year!



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Re: CHRISTMAS!

2017-12-26 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Carol,

Thank you for your kind thoughts. I hope you too are well? Not doing great 
but have a battle to face in the new year. I will get through it though and 
come out the other side smiling.


I'm still enjoying Christmas and like most over ate.lol

Hope Santa was good to you as well.

Christmas Wishes, BJ

--
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Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:07 AM
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: "Carol and Roger" <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!


Hey BJ,

It's been a long time.  Merry Christmas.  Hope you are well and wish you a 
great New Year.


Carol

For the rest of us that are still celebraring, enjoy the rest of your 
Christmas.


Carol



On 12/25/2017 6:40 PM, bj colt via Talk wrote:
Merry Christmas to everyone. I hope their is a light that shines in 
everyones home today. The light of peace, friendship and love.


Christmas
Wishes John

-Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

And a blessed Christmas to you also.

Norene



-Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:57 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Bob Tinney
Subject: CHRISTMAS!

We wish you and yours a very Merry and joyful Christmas,

and a very Happy, peaceful  and prosperous New Year!



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Re: CHRISTMAS!

2017-12-25 Thread bj colt via Talk

Merry Christmas to everyone. I hope their is a light that shines in 
everyones home today. The light of peace, friendship and love.


Christmas
Wishes John

-Original Message- 
From: Norene Trappa via Talk

Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS!

And a blessed Christmas to you also.

Norene



-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:57 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Bob Tinney
Subject: CHRISTMAS!

We wish you and yours a very Merry and joyful Christmas,

and a very Happy, peaceful  and prosperous New Year!

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Re: Latest Firefox, and accessibility

2017-10-08 Thread bj colt via Talk

 issues.
Be as it might. Apparently there must be something that causes WinEyes
to have its hickups, on certain systems. Could we trace the health
issue, we might be able to remedy the WinEyes disease. Smiles.


Just for the fun of it, in Firefox under Help, try pressing Enter on the
item that says:

Health Report.

What do you get there? Should give you some technical information.
Likely nothing important in this case, but just to see if it at all
could tell anything for further tracing. It at least would report if any
of your Add-ons have caused Firefox to get an aching toe. In such a
case, offering it a donut and a cup of coffee for free, might cheer it
up a bit. Smiles.


Sorry for not being of all that much help, and hope you don't mind my
sense of humor on an early Saturday morning.


On 10/7/2017 1:04 PM, bj colt via Talk wrote:

Hi David,

I followed your instructions but got the same ding noise I get when
firefox upgrqades to the latest version. I am running the 32 bit
version.

I pressed alt d, then f6. The same ding. Like being in an edit box
that is stuck there. All I hear is ding. I have uninstalled firefox 3
times since last night and each time firefox has upgraded. Even though
I have it set not to upgrade.

It is strange how some people aring this phenomenon and others aren't.
My friend is running firefox, same version as I am. windows 7. pentium
processor, 500 ghz hard drive. 8 gig ram. All very wierd.

It does seem like a focus problem but what and why?

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- From: David via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 11:02 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; WE English Mailinglist
Cc: David
Subject: Re: Latest Firefox, and accessibility

Forgot to say, I am still running Windows7 pro 64bit, in case the OS
might be the bottleneck.


On 10/7/2017 12:01 PM, David via Talk wrote:

I do not want to start a new lengthy arguing over accessibility issues.
Yet, a few days ago, we had a discussion running here, as to the latest
version of Firefox - 56 - which some users had experienced issues with.

I did not have any intention in running into accessibility issues, and
hence told my Firefox never to update. It is done under tools, Options,
Advanced, and choose the update tab. Nevertheless, this morning when
starting my Firefox, it still updated itself. I got the message on the
screen, that the update was taking place, and though I could say a few
things about a setting in the Firefox options, which apparently is
nothing but useless - I had no choice but to let the update complete
itself. My reasoning was that first it insisted on upgrading, I could
always roll it back afterwards.

When the upgrading was finished, I checked under Tools, Help, About -
and the current installation says

  Firefox 56.0, 32bit.

I now have used it for a couple of hours, browsing around, and do
see no
trouble with this version of Firefox, along with the latest (and last)
version of WinEyes, that is, version 9.5.4.

I do recall there has been a few comments about the 64bit version of
Firefox from the past. And hence i was wondering if the users who told
us not to update to the latest Firefox, due to their accessibility
issues, would happen to be running the 64bit version.

As an alternative, in attempting to see a reason for some experiencing
trouble in latest version, I do wonder if there could be a focusing
issue. Would any of you, who initially reported the loss of
accessibility in Firefox 56, maybe want to try the following.
1. Open Firefox, and go to any website.
2. Press Alt-D, as in Delta.
3. Press F6.
4. Try navigating the website.
Are you still unable to perform any action on the page? If so, check
under Help/About,and see if you are running 64- or 32bit version.
Please
note, a 32bit software can be run perfectly well on a 64bit machine,
but
you cannot run a 64bit software on a 32bit computer. Most computers now
aday, are 64bit machines, and yet, often you are encouraged to run the
32bit software, due to the 64bit technology being more vulnerable for
technical issues.

This is no attempt in advicing anyone, in their choice of browser or
version. I am just curious why some have reported their systems facing
issues, whereas my system had none. Could it even be there was
something
going wrong in your updating process? Or, could it be due to some of
the
add-ons you have installed under Firefox, and which no longer are
up-to-date, due to the new add-on policy of the Mozilla group? Try
starting your Firefox with all Add-ons disabled, and see if that solves
any issues.

Really, it would be bad, should a number of users ditch an otherwise
good browser, or abstain from updating, due to some misunderstood
accessibility issues. That's why, I decided to report my findings,
hoping to hear from others who could shed further light on what
possibly
could cause issues for some. Perhaps we even could help them solve
their
issues, and have them back up running the Firefox browser again

Re: Latest Firefox, and accessibility

2017-10-07 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi David,

I followed your instructions but got the same ding noise I get when firefox 
upgrqades to the latest version. I am running the 32 bit version.


I pressed alt d, then f6. The same ding. Like being in an edit box that is 
stuck there. All I hear is ding. I have uninstalled firefox 3 times since 
last night and each time firefox has upgraded. Even though I have it set not 
to upgrade.


It is strange how some people aring this phenomenon and others aren't. My 
friend is running firefox, same version as I am. windows 7. pentium 
processor, 500 ghz hard drive. 8 gig ram. All very wierd.


It does seem like a focus problem but what and why?

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: David via Talk

Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 11:02 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; WE English Mailinglist
Cc: David
Subject: Re: Latest Firefox, and accessibility

Forgot to say, I am still running Windows7 pro 64bit, in case the OS
might be the bottleneck.


On 10/7/2017 12:01 PM, David via Talk wrote:

I do not want to start a new lengthy arguing over accessibility issues.
Yet, a few days ago, we had a discussion running here, as to the latest
version of Firefox - 56 - which some users had experienced issues with.

I did not have any intention in running into accessibility issues, and
hence told my Firefox never to update. It is done under tools, Options,
Advanced, and choose the update tab. Nevertheless, this morning when
starting my Firefox, it still updated itself. I got the message on the
screen, that the update was taking place, and though I could say a few
things about a setting in the Firefox options, which apparently is
nothing but useless - I had no choice but to let the update complete
itself. My reasoning was that first it insisted on upgrading, I could
always roll it back afterwards.

When the upgrading was finished, I checked under Tools, Help, About -
and the current installation says

  Firefox 56.0, 32bit.

I now have used it for a couple of hours, browsing around, and do see no
trouble with this version of Firefox, along with the latest (and last)
version of WinEyes, that is, version 9.5.4.

I do recall there has been a few comments about the 64bit version of
Firefox from the past. And hence i was wondering if the users who told
us not to update to the latest Firefox, due to their accessibility
issues, would happen to be running the 64bit version.

As an alternative, in attempting to see a reason for some experiencing
trouble in latest version, I do wonder if there could be a focusing
issue. Would any of you, who initially reported the loss of
accessibility in Firefox 56, maybe want to try the following.
1. Open Firefox, and go to any website.
2. Press Alt-D, as in Delta.
3. Press F6.
4. Try navigating the website.
Are you still unable to perform any action on the page? If so, check
under Help/About,and see if you are running 64- or 32bit version. Please
note, a 32bit software can be run perfectly well on a 64bit machine, but
you cannot run a 64bit software on a 32bit computer. Most computers now
aday, are 64bit machines, and yet, often you are encouraged to run the
32bit software, due to the 64bit technology being more vulnerable for
technical issues.

This is no attempt in advicing anyone, in their choice of browser or
version. I am just curious why some have reported their systems facing
issues, whereas my system had none. Could it even be there was something
going wrong in your updating process? Or, could it be due to some of the
add-ons you have installed under Firefox, and which no longer are
up-to-date, due to the new add-on policy of the Mozilla group? Try
starting your Firefox with all Add-ons disabled, and see if that solves
any issues.

Really, it would be bad, should a number of users ditch an otherwise
good browser, or abstain from updating, due to some misunderstood
accessibility issues. That's why, I decided to report my findings,
hoping to hear from others who could shed further light on what possibly
could cause issues for some. Perhaps we even could help them solve their
issues, and have them back up running the Firefox browser again; even
with last version of WinEyes.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Denniws,

I copied that link from google. This time it is correct. I got this link 
that does work. I made sure it did.lol


https://nordvpn.com/

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:54 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

I get this message.
Page Not Found
Is the link not right?


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:23 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Denniws,

Here is the link to their web site. They have reduced it even further. You
can subscribe a month at a time or yearly. Annualy is of course much
cheaper. I am running windows 7 and it works great.

http://www.nordvpn.com/nord/vpn




-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 9:12 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Can you please send a link to there website?  Is there windows app
accessible.

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On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 3:46 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

It is called Nord vpn. When I first installed it. The accessibility was
almost non existant but it is around 95 per cent accessible now. I contacted
them and they have done everything to help with accessibility. It costs $45
or thereabouts per year. I know there are free ones out there but I like
this one.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

What vpn service are you using?

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On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Denniws,

Here is the link to their web site. They have reduced it even further. You 
can subscribe a month at a time or yearly. Annualy is of course much 
cheaper. I am running windows 7 and it works great.


http://www.nordvpn.com/nord/vpn




-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 9:12 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Can you please send a link to there website?  Is there windows app
accessible.

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On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 3:46 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

It is called Nord vpn. When I first installed it. The accessibility was
almost non existant but it is around 95 per cent accessible now. I contacted
them and they have done everything to help with accessibility. It costs $45
or thereabouts per year. I know there are free ones out there but I like
this one.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

What vpn service are you using?

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On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
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Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
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Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Dennis,

It is called Nord vpn. When I first installed it. The accessibility was 
almost non existant but it is around 95 per cent accessible now. I contacted 
them and they have done everything to help with accessibility. It costs $45 
or thereabouts per year. I know there are free ones out there but I like 
this one.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

What vpn service are you using?

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On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
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Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I 
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that 
a try.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
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Re: firefox 55.03

2017-10-01 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Bryce,

Unfortunatly I had to do a search on google for older versions of firefox. 
My drop box isn't working or I would have uploaded the previous version for 
you.


I did install it and its working fine with w.e.
It really is straightforward. Go to google and type in older versions of 
firefox. The page is easy to navigate. Either tab down or press h till you 
get to the link for downloading the previous version. The download should 
start right away.


I haven't found where to uncheck the box to stop firefox updating 
automatically. When I do I will let you know how its done.


Live long and prosper, John

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Subject: firefox 55.03

Does anyone have a working link to download fx 55.03? Thanks.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-01 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi

I'm puzzled as my friend lost all use of firefox yhet today he is using it 
normally. I don't know if he got someone to reinstall a previous version or 
not.


I can't use it but am tempted to go back to the previous version. It stopped 
working Thursday.


Yes n v d a and jws do work with firefox. I'm not sure why window-eyes 
doesn't. Then again from memory. I think this happened in the past with 
firefox and window-eyes. I will report it to firefox just in case they can 
resolve the situation.


Live long and prosper, John

Live long and prosper, John

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Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 12:12 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
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Re: New Window-Eyes Group, How dumb!

2017-07-23 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Peter,

I and the majority of window-eyes users on and off this list will continue 
to use wondow-eyes, till it cannot be used any more.


I switched over to jws and continue to use window-eyes simply because I find 
it a much superior program. Even though it is dead. Yet Confuscious say " 
How can window-eyes be dead if app have been updated"? Because it still 
lives.


Again VFO could close this group instantly and without prior  warning.

There are some fantastic p;eople on this list and I for one don't want to 
take the chance of being left out in the3 cold by VFO.


Live long and prosper, John

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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:58 PM
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Subject: New Window-Eyes Group, How dumb!

Why create another Window-Eyes group when Window-Eyes is dead, as said by 
Doug.  Don’t folks have anything better to do with their time?


It would make far more sense to study up on NVAD, Narrator for Windows 10, 
or VoiceOver for the Mac and iPhone and give their developers useful 
feedback.


Peter Duran
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Re: new window eyes group created

2017-07-23 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Chris,

If you have been keeping up with the posts from aisquared. You will notice 
that the app updates have been suspended. Even though there has been apps 
updated recently by a list member. I think the person who created the list 
is being cautious. I certainly don't trust aisquared or VFO. They could 
easily close the list at a whim, with no notice, Then where would we be.


Let's face it Chris they have been anything but honest and sincere in their 
customer service with window--eyes customers.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:48 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: new window eyes group created

Ok, forgive my complete ignorance on the subject...but the
group we're using right now seems to be working quite well.  Why switch?
I'm not against the idea, just not sure why someone would do such a
thing when we already have a group that's worked just fine for years?
Why switch now?




On 7/23/2017 12:45 PM, Patricia Krinke via Talk wrote:

Yes, I canj't get any verification either.  Thank you for any help,


Trish

-Original Message-
From: bj colt via Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: new window eyes group created


 Hi Dennis,

I am having a huge problem signing up to the new group. I add my email
address and then press enter on verify email. I wait and wait and wait and
wait. For days and I don't get any verification email. I wonder if more
people are getting the same problem?

Is there any way you can help with this problem please?

Sincerely, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 6:26 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: new window eyes group created

Hi, I have created a group to discuss windoweyes you can also ask jaws
questions if you want.  the group info is below.

https://groups.io/g/WindowEyesUsers



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Re: new window eyes group created

2017-07-23 Thread bj colt via Talk


   Hi Dennis,

I am having a huge problem signing up to the new group. I add my email 
address and then press enter on verify email. I wait and wait and wait and 
wait. For days and I don't get any verification email. I wonder if more 
people are getting the same problem?


Is there any way you can help with this problem please?

Sincerely, John

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 6:26 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: new window eyes group created

Hi, I have created a group to discuss windoweyes you can also ask jaws
questions if you want.  the group info is below.

https://groups.io/g/WindowEyesUsers



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Re: accessible Kindle bookreading software

2017-06-06 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Kevin,

I use the kindle accessible version with window-eyes but it works much 
better with nvda.


Let me know if you need any help? Download the app from amazon but you will 
get a direct link using google.


When it is downloaded. you have to register it with amazon. That was a 
little tricky and honest I advise you to use nvda for that. There are built 
in voices which arent too bad.


I prefer it on my I phone but the pc is fine. You have to buy some kindle 
books, or if you have a prijme membership with amazon you can read specific 
kindle books for free. Be careful you don't unknowingly sign up to a monthly 
paid version of kindl download.


If you use torrent sites you can get loads of kindle books. there is also a 
program where you can convert kinlde books to microsoft word, e pup and 
other formats.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Huber via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:56 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: accessible Kindle bookreading software

Hi:

Since my question is offtopic, would anyone who knows about the
software version of the accessible Kindle book reader please email me
offlist?  I have some questions to ask.
Kevin Huber
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Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Janis,

I would hold off going to mac just yet. I read a few minutes ago that Apple 
are going to be bringing out new apple products, pc, laptop etc. My 
information came from a reputable source. The Guardian newspaper


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Janet Brandly via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 5:14 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: makeing the switch

Hi Tony,

I totally agree and am in a similar situation. My laptop is likely nearing
the end of its lifes'an and I'm seriously considering changing to an Apple
product for those exact reasons. If you decide to blog about your
experiences as you adjust to doing tasks with a different screen-reader, I'd
be interested in following your adventures.


Janet

-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:04 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: makeing the switch

Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for several
years to consider switching to a Mac, but with the apparent demise of Window
Eyes, and Jaws sucking as it always has, I’m going to be making the switch.
I’ve been a loyal WE user since 2004, but it seems that it’s time to teach
an old dog new tricks. lol. I can take my I phone or my I pad mini and have
no problem using programs like Netflix, Slink, and other websites using
Voice Over, that WE and Jaws say hey can’t because the sites aren’t
accessible. I think I’ll keep one of my Windows PC’s with WE on it just so I
can look back and think of all the money I spent just to be left with my
thumb up my nose. When I think of the money I’ve spent maintaining a screen
reader, and now the built in screen reader with the IOS works great with all
those websites that were called by tech support for Jaws and window eyes
“inaccessible”.. I know I may catch some flack for this, but it’s the truth
none the less.I guess VFO thinks they’ve cornered the market on Screen
readers, but I refuse to do business with them, because of who they are and
who they are connected with. I started out with Windows 95 and JFW back in
1995, and I used Jaws up untill 2004 when a friend of mine and myself
started building a web site, he was a WE user and I a Jaws user. I couldn’t
do some of the thing with jaws and Freedom Scientific’s tech support told me
it was because the page builder I was usin was “inaccessible”, but my buddy
with Window eyes could do it. I started using WE to work on the website and
as I got used to it I began using is more and more for other things. I found
that WE worked “out of the box” with more programs than Jaws did. So, in
2004 I became a Window eyes user. now I’m sad to say that the same type of
thing has happened, except this time is between Window eyes Windows and
Voice Over and Mac. I will be buying my first Mac in a couple of months and
telling WE and Windows goodby.
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Re: Window-Eyes app for Reaper released.

2017-03-06 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Tom,

I've been working with reaper for a few weeks and can say it is fantastic. 
It was working perfectly till yesterday and everything went crazy.


I kept losing speech when opening reaper. I had set up the steinberg 
interface. It worked fine until I unplugged it. Speech would freeze when I 
loaded reaper. That was using window-eyes, nvda and narrator.


I uninstalled w.e nvda and tried each one seperatly. The same result. 
silence. I did hear error opening device when loading reaper.


I uninstalled reaper, osara, sw plug in and tha ausio drivers.

When I now load reaper, I still get that error message but no loss of 
speech. I can't play any tracks. When I press control and spacebar I get 
stop. No play or pause. Simply stop.


The other problem is that when I install the reaper w.e app it isn't in my 
app list. It tells me it is installed but I can't find it anywhere.


Any ideas you might have to help, please let me know. I checked the audio 
settings and they appear to be fine.


I have no idea why the reaper app is not showing up in w.e.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:35 AM
To: Kim Lingo ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes app for Reaper released.

Kim,

Reaper costs only 60 dollars for an individual license. But you can
download and install it and it will be fully functional with nothing
more than a purchase reminder that pops up on launch.
It works fine on Windows 7 with Window-Eyes.
It is a full blown multi-track recorder like Sonar.

Here's what you need to get started.
Reaper.
http://www.reaper.fm/

The OSARA accessibility extension. Go to the ReadMe heading and read
that section. Then go to the download and install heading and read that.
You should bookmark that page or the download link because you'll need
to check for updates yourself. They're pretty frequent. So check back
every couple weeks.
https://github.com/nvaccess/osara

The SWS/S extension. It's not required but very helpful.
http://www.sws-extension.org/

And here's a link to the Reapers without Peepers mailing list page where
you can subscribe. It's a very helpful list.
http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp

Good luck,
Tom

On 2/1/2017 4:12 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk wrote:

A couple of questions:  Is there a cost to this?  Will it work on
Windows 7 with WE 9.5.4?   I gather this works with Sonar, so does
anyone know how much this program costs?
Kim Lingo


-Original Message- From: bj colt via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 11:00 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes app for Reaper released.

Hi Tom,

Like some users on the w.e list. I too have been struggling with Sonar. 
The

Reaper app and accessibility sounds amazing.

Can you send me the details for the reaper mailing list please? Which is
the
best version to purchose? I assume the Proffessional one. Or is it as
accessible as the basic version?

I am looking forward to giving it a try. Is there a demo available?Live
long
and prosper, John

-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:17 AM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes app for Reaper released.

Thanks, Dave.

The app is really an interconnect for Window-Eyes and OSARA, a MSAA
accessibility extension for Reaper. So it just makes everything talk
that doesn't out of the box.

The RWP mailing list I mentioned is a good place to get help. Someone
recently posted an HTML version of the PDF manual to make it easier to
navigate. And someone else posted a text file with a list of all the hot
keys. But if you don't want to join the list just let me know and I'll
upload them to Dropbox.

Regards,
Tom


On 1/31/2017 7:23 PM, Dave wrote:

Hi Tom,

Tom has anyone told you that you are  a Class Act?

I have struggled with Sonar now for years.  Have never used Reaper, but
have thought about it enough, but never put any action to my thoughts.

Is there a Help file with this new App, telling what Reaper features the
App now gives Access?


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Re: Window-Eyes app for Reaper released.

2017-02-01 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Tom,

Like some users on the w.e list. I too have been struggling with Sonar. The 
Reaper app and accessibility sounds amazing.


Can you send me the details for the reaper mailing list please? Which is the 
best version to purchose? I assume the Proffessional one. Or is it as 
accessible as the basic version?


I am looking forward to giving it a try. Is there a demo available?Live long 
and prosper, John


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:17 AM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes app for Reaper released.

Thanks, Dave.

The app is really an interconnect for Window-Eyes and OSARA, a MSAA
accessibility extension for Reaper. So it just makes everything talk
that doesn't out of the box.

The RWP mailing list I mentioned is a good place to get help. Someone
recently posted an HTML version of the PDF manual to make it easier to
navigate. And someone else posted a text file with a list of all the hot
keys. But if you don't want to join the list just let me know and I'll
upload them to Dropbox.

Regards,
Tom


On 1/31/2017 7:23 PM, Dave wrote:

Hi Tom,

Tom has anyone told you that you are  a Class Act?

I have struggled with Sonar now for years.  Have never used Reaper, but
have thought about it enough, but never put any action to my thoughts.

Is there a Help file with this new App, telling what Reaper features the
App now gives Access?


Grumpy Dave







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sendspace and firefox

2017-01-04 Thread bj colt via Talk

Hi List,

I have a problem with firefox and Internet explorer. both latest builds. If I 
press enter on a link in an email to sendspace to download a file. It works 
fine. In other emails when I press enter on the similar link firefox rejects 
the connection. It seems to be because of some kind of invalid certificate that 
sendspace has. Because of this the sendspace page won’t load.

I reset firefox to default settings but no difference.

Anyone have any idea?

Live long and prosper, John
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Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

2016-12-18 Thread bj colt via Talk


Dear List,

It is only natural to speculate about a program, most of us have used for a 
long time. In truth it isn't the fault of list members but that of VFO and 
~Ai squared for not posting something positive about what is happening with 
Window-eyes.


It really is as simple as that. If the list is being monitored by A I 
Squared staff and or maybe VFO staff. A slight hint, a positive message 
would go a long way to quell everyone's thoughts. I studied Public Relations 
at University and all I can say is that. This is the worst Public Relations 
I have ever come across to date. #No matter what happens this will affect 
both AI Squared and VFO for a long time to come. I truly don't understand 
it. One thing for sure is that, i'm glad I am not doing any Public Relations 
for either company at the oment.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 5:35 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

You know it's rumors and gosup

 like this that creates a great deal more problems than it actualy
solves.  So, when we here a rumor or a tid bit of gosup we should simply
ignore it unless it comes directly from AISquared or VFO. Lets continue
to use this list for what it was intended for, discussing Window-Eyes
and issues pertaining to Window-Eyes.  Catch Ya Later! de
.
On 18-Dec-16 12:17, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the 
thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my 
friends...





On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still 
selling it?  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

   And lets add to that.  How about several employees leaving Ai
Squared.  The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes.

-Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent
support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does
this tell you?

On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there FOLKS!

Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far as
I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called about
obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for the
future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS about
Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY
APPRECIATE!. 


On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:

Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very good
job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job than
Window Eyes.

But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program, and
they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest 
upgrade,

and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update, andcx isn't
all that much better than what you had bfore you spend an extra $200.
Then
they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has 
trouble

installing on more than one or two Systems.

And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I
loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something else
in my system that caused the system lock up.

I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves and
we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear Grandmother's eyes,
as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find her without someone
taking our hand and leading us up to the old girl.

Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to do
with the desperation of many who are Blind.
  Here is something to think about-
I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a Quad
Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM,  and a 750 GB Hard Drive, for 
$250.


We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests 
them

and puts them up for sale.
So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of 
JAWS

is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure.

When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as the
computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with that.

And I know JAWS is a Company that is to make a profit for the owners,
and making a healthy profit is something I have no problem with a
Company doing.  But there is the Greed factor that tends to raise its
uglyhead, and that is when a Company will charge what they believe the
Market will bare.  And with most program sales getting paid for by our
Government, the same

Re: Future of WE

2016-11-27 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Butch,

I've been using window-eyes since 1998 and like the majority on the list, 
been a 100% loyal user. Stuck with the product through thick and thin. The 
staff always gave their best, every single one of them. Window-eyes at the 
moment works as good as it can and I have very few problems with the latest 
update.


The customer support at gwmicro was always excellent and I always got the 
help I needed and so did friends of mine who use window-eyes.


No upgrade is perfect, there will always be some problems but gwmicro and 
aisquared always did their best to get as good a product as possible.


I like many will continue to use window-eyes till it stops working. Then I 
will probably go to nvda. Certainly not Jaws. I'm unsure if VFO can make 
that trade off with anyone who has an s m a. I know the laws here in the uk 
are quite strict and I would expect to get my money back in full. If VFO 
only gave the option of using the s m a's towards a purchase of Jaws. Even 
though I am in the uk. There are long distance selling and buying 
regulations that have to be adhered to.


The simple fact is that we bought one, two or more s m a's for the specific 
purpose of purchasing the appropriate ammount of full upgrades of 
Window-eyes. Ifthat is not possible then the money has to be returned in 
full. There is no arguements about that. Or there shouldn't be. However as 
VFO has a reputation regarding finances. Then they will take a chance but 
will loss, like they lost the legal dispute with gwmicro.lol


Live long and prosper, John




-Original Message- 
From: Butch Bussen via Talk

Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:13 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE


Not sure what you meant by "wished to provide", like they didn't provide
good service and a good product.They did wish to provide good
customer service, their customer service was always top notch, and I've
known Doug and Dan for a long time and their goal was to provide good
products to the blind community. We don't know what went on behind the
scenes, and the bills must be paid.  They never had the market share
that freedom had, (in spite of freedom's poor customer service), and
freedom taking them to court, I'm sure, set gw micro back finnancially.
Believe me, I'm as sad as any one to see them get gobbled up by freedom,
but to insinuate GW Micro didn't do a lot for the bllind community and
that they were in it just for the money just isn't so.  I ran my own
business for many years, and although it had its rewards, it can get
difficult at times.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I have a lot of their products around
that have made my life easier and more fun and I'm thankful for what GW
Micro accomplished over the years, and did for us.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sun, 27 Nov 2016,
Don H via Talk wrote:

I predict that WE development will indeed stop soon if it hasn't already. 
I also predict that we will be offered some kind of not so good deal to 
purchase JAWS.  I also predict that if you have SMA's left they will apply 
only if you take the deal to purchase JAWS.  Otherwise your SMA's will be 
worth absolutely nothing.  I have two SMA's left and fully expect to get 
nothing for them.
I only hope that when GW started this whole process that it was because 
they had a need and not that it was greed.  Of course I respect the right 
of any business to go for the gold but thought that Doug and Dan of GW 
really wished to provide good service to their customers.


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Re: Future of WE

2016-11-27 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi,

As far as I am aware aisquared are no longer selling s m a's. In an email 
from someone at aisquared a few months ago. The person sending the email to 
asquared asked if s m a's could be purchased and how much they were. The 
aisquared person stated that the cost of an upgrade was $49 but did not 
mention s m a's. Leading me to believe then that window-eyes was not safe at 
that point.


I keep a very slight hope that window-eyes will survive but all the signs 
say it won't. A good Company with a good Public Relations office would have 
kept window-eyes customers up to date with internal events in VFO. Sadly 
this company hasn't, neither has aisquared. It is the lack of information 
that is the problem. Taking into account dealers being informed that 
window-eyes and related products will no longer be on offer after December 
the first is extremely worrying. Add up all the negatives one does get an 
idea window-eyes will be discontinued. As there are absolutely no positives. 
What else are window-eyes customers to conclude. All down to both VFO and 
Asquared for not keeping us up to date. As window-eyes customers we have the 
right to be informed about the product we have loyally supported for over 
two decades.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Butch Bussen via Talk

Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 3:58 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Yep, that that requires logical thinking which isn't to common these
days.  If they are still selling s m a contracts, that is a little odd.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On
Sun, 27 Nov 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

With several employees leaving AI Squared and VFO instructing dealers to 
no longer sell Window Eyes, that should tell you something?


-Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 3:10 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Dave'
Subject: Re: Future of WE

I'm not sure I understand why some here feel this urgent need to switch
to another screen reader at this moment.

On 11/26/2016 6:03 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

 Jaws 18 is out and should have a demo.

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
 On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
 Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:51 PM
 To: A I Squared Support
 Subject: Future of WE

 I must admit, the Future of Window Eyes does look like it could be very
 limited, as in soon to be Discontinued.   But, who knows for sure.  The
 Parent Company might be slow and Cumbersome which makes them slow to do
 anything that gets back to the customersSlow to announce new stuff,
 slow to bring out Updates, slow to Fix problems etc.

 I too am starting to use NVDA a bit more.   On my System, NVDA is just a
 touch slower, and I am still not understanding it way of reading parts 
of

 the screen, at least not consistently.

 email, MS Word and the Internet all seem to read well enough.  Some 
times

 a
 bit too much is spoken, and I am still learning how to make NVDA speak
 less.

 And to be fair, NVDA is not Free, but you can obtain it for Free, use 
it,
 and if you like it, then the owners and creators of NVDA would love to 
see

 a
 Donation come their way.  Money does motivate the continued improvement 
of

 their product.

 If more money had been coming into GW Micro, then A I Squared would not
 have bought GW Micro.   and this discussion would never have taken 
place.


 I doubt if any of us would work for Free indefinitely.   And the guys
 who have put NVDA together would not put in so much effort into NVDA if
 they
 did not receive enough to make it worth their time and energy.

 The thing about NVDA is that you can donate $50 and the guys will be
 grateful.  $50 is cheaper than $1300 for JAWS.

 NVDA doesn't do everything JAWS does, but to be honest, I do not need
 NVDA to do everything JAWS does.Each person will need to find out if
 NVDA will do everything they need it to do.  If it doesn't, and we all
 find
 out that Window Eyes is truly Dead, then those needing more will need to
 start saving up for their copy of JAWS, whether they like it or not.

 I have two programs that NVDA will not read.  Window Eyes will read one 
of

 them, and when JAWS 18 has a Demo, I intend to try it, to see if it
 will read both of these programs.   If it does, against my will, I will
 need to purchase a copy of JAWS.I might object, but if I wish to use
 these programs, then I have no choice.

 Time will tell what the Future of Window Eyes will be, and whether or 
not

 we
 each need to see what we can find to replace a decent and respectable
 Screen Reader.

 There are other choices than NVDA and JAWS, although, I know nothing
 about them.And since I rarely hear of them, I assume they are not
 all that good.Maybe some of you here have experience with some of
 the other choices in Screen Readers?

 Grumpy Dave

Re: Kind of OT, Auto start CD rom

2016-10-16 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi David,

I don't use windows 10 so just guessing. In windows 7 when I put in a cd/dvd 
A pop up message comes up. It gives me various options. For example, open 
folder to view files. play cd. play dvd. There are options in windows to 
select which option is checked by default. Where it is on windows 10 I 
haven't a clue. If you have a search box like windows 7, you might find 
information there. Often the pop up doesn't speak and we don't know it's 
there. Shift tab around to see if there is something there when you put in a 
cd or dvd.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: David Crowell via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 6:10 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Kind of OT, Auto start CD rom

Hi,

I am using the most current version of Window Eyes and Windows 10
Anniversary edition on a Lenovo desktop.

With my computer the CD rom does not start automatically when you put in a
CD and close the door.

What I am wondering is if there is a keyboard command to make the CD rom
start after putting in a CD and closing the door?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.




Dave



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Re: Jeremy Curry is leaving Ai Squared

2016-10-14 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for everything you have done behind the scenes at aisquared and 
gwmicro. I wish you every success in your new job.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremy Curry via Talk

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:56 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Jeremy Curry is leaving Ai Squared

Hi Everyone,

I hope this message finds you all well.  As the subject says, I will be 
leaving  Ai Squared. After serving with this team for nearly 12 years, my 
final day will be Friday, October 28.  I have decided to take a job with 
Interactive Accessibility.  While I won't be part of Ai Squared any more, I 
want you all to know that it has been an honor to serve our customers.  I 
plan to continue to stay active in the assistive technology community, and I 
don't plan to be a stranger. 


As one of my favorite Bible verses says, "In their hearts humans plan their 
course, but the Lord establishes their steps"  (Proverbs 16:9). I am looking 
forward to the new challenges and people that God has in store for me.


Warm Regards and God Bless,

Jeremy
Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.com
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Re: my big mistake

2016-10-13 Thread bj colt via Talk


   Hi Kim,

I've been using windows live mail for years and f7 is the keystroke that 
brings up the spell checker. It works every time for me.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Kim Lingo via Talk

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 2:34 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: my big mistake

I'm going to look like an idiot here, but here goes.  I made a big mistake
which explains why the hotkeys in the tutorial and people's advice didn't
work.

Actually, I'm now using WE 9.5.3, Microsoft Office 2013, and Windows Live
Mail as the email program.  _This_ is the one that I am unable to access the
spell checker.  It really is the right one.  So, is there a way to make the
spell checker work with Window-Eyes?
Kim Lingo


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Re: Kindle Books

2016-10-10 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi,

I tend to do that as a matter of rule but sometimes like most, I forget.lol 
Honestly the kindle customer services are great about refunding. Somehwow I 
was signed up to the monthly subscription and I didn't notice it for almost 
10 months. They refunded all the money they took from my bank, no questions 
asked. They have also refunded me for those books that didn't read. I am 
puzzled why the kindle app for the pc and for the iphone don't read those 
books but the kindle book reader  can read it. Must be something in the 
programming.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 2:17 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Kindle Books

Probably the best thing is, download the sample and see if it can beread.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 7:34 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Kindle Books

This should be the last message on the subject. When I tried to read the
book with the Kindle PC app, I got the  message that there isno text on this
page. The book I was trying to read is Captain America Civil War by Ed
Brubaker. The book appears to be a scanned image. Converting with Codex, I
tried EPub, PDF, and TXT, and no text  was displayed. When attempting to
read the PDF, I got the “Empty Document” message. QRead couldn’t parce the
book—not surprising.The
Virtual View script was no help. The question now is, how can one determine
he has such a file before purchasing a Kindle book?
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Re: Kindle Books

2016-10-10 Thread bj colt via Talk


Dear Rod,

I have had the exact same experiences. However, there is no way to tell 
prior to purchasing a kindle book the type of file it is. I have found 
Amazon customer services are fine at refunding the cost of the book. I don't 
know of any way to convert the file to an accessible format. The only 
possible option is to buy a cheap kindle book. That sort of defeats the 
purpose of installing the kindle accessible app for pc.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:34 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Kindle Books

This should be the last message on the subject. When I tried to read the 
book with the Kindle PC app, I got the  message that there isno text on this 
page. The book I was trying to read is Captain America Civil War by Ed 
Brubaker. The book appears to be a scanned image. Converting with Codex, I 
tried EPub, PDF, and TXT, and no text  was displayed. When attempting to 
read the PDF, I got the “Empty Document” message. QRead couldn’t parce the 
book—not surprising.The
Virtual View script was no help. The question now is, how can one determine 
he has such a file before purchasing a Kindle book?

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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

2016-09-14 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Carol,

Can I ask where do the Kindle books go once you have bought them? I read 
them on my iphone as the kindle app for the pc is not accessible for me.


Is there a way to get to the books I have purchased in Amazon? I've never 
tried to access my books on amazon.


Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hi Grumpy Dave,

I have a better suggestion.  You still purchase your Kindle books.
Instead of using the Amazon Kindle app, you can convert your files to
another format of your own choosing by using a program called Codex.  I
am placing the link here.  The program allows one to convert .pdf,
.epub, .azw or whatever file type the Amazon books are in, and other
formats from one to another.  For example, you can even convert a .docx
to a .txt or .rtf.  It is pretty easy to use and it can be run in the
Windows Explorer, at least on Win7 machines, through the context menu.
You set your default file type for output and when you select convert,
your file is automatically converted to the file you requested.  There
is also an option to choose another file type without changing your
default.  For example, you found a magazine article you wanted to read
quickly..save it as a .txt and read it quickly.  So, finally, here is
the link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5121410/Codex-2.0-setup.exe

Oh yes, I used it yesterday and was informed there is a newer version.
You can update it directly from the program.

Carol



On 9/13/2016 9:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave




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new oe program responce from them

2016-09-09 Thread bj colt via Talk

Hi list,

Below is the responce I recieved from Customer support of oe2. I think they are 
saying it will take a long, long, time for it to be made accessible for us.

We are aware that OE Classic has issues with screen-readers for certain
controls. To avoid technical explanation, we are aware that these controls
need a Accessible Name which is something what is built into Windows (more
recent versions such as Windows Vista or more recent) but unfortunately,
they are fairly recent and are not implemented to the level of all Windows
controls which OE Classic uses. So we have to add support for this name in
controls - there are a few methods to do this and we examined them for a
while.

For now, this is in To-Do list. As we are fairly small team, it will take a
while (possibly even a good while) before we start addressing these issues.
We have been testing it with NVDA and we found that some controls behave
really poorly, while others behaved surprisingly well (mostly buttons and
checkboxes). I have added you to the notification list so when we make more
progress toward that goal I will notify you - but it will be a while before
that happens.

best regards,
Zvonko Tesic

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-Original Message- 
From: bj colt
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:36 PM
To: zvonko.te...@zg.t-com.hr
Subject: accessibility

[OEC VERSION] 2.51 (2016-07-20)
[ REGISTERED] No
[WINDOWS] 7 / Server 2008 R2

Dear Customer Service,

I am a blind person, using a screen reading program called window-eyes. I 
downloaded oe2 and found that the program lacked accessibility for my 
program. The options menu would not read with the tab or shift tab keys. 
~The focus didn't go to the next email when the email highlighted was 
deleted.

The folder view was only accessible using the shift tab stroke.


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Re: is spybot accessible

2016-09-01 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Lee,

Not sure if it is still accessible. Mallware bites is a goodone to have. I 
will contact you off list with steps how to install it. It has to be an 
older version as the new mallwarebites is not accessible.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Lee Hodgson via Talk

Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 2:41 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: is spybot accessible

Hi
can anyone tell me if spybot is still usable with window eyes.  I
loved it in the old days, but not sure how accessible it is now. so
wanted to check before considering installing.
thanks
Lee, Emily my guiding  furry snowflake and Chester and simba the
feline fellas
leehodge on dice world
My wife is JessHodge on Dice world
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gold wave set files

2016-08-31 Thread bj colt via Talk

Hi,

I am also having a problem with gold wave. I may be doing something wrong but I 
can’t find the gold wave set file in the factory set files section in the w.e 
control panel.

I uninstalled w.e 9.5.1 and then reinstalled it. I only have w.e 8.4 which is 
an electronic download so I installed that version. I then installed w.e 9.2 
and then w.e 9.5.1.

In w.e 8.4 I was able to find the gold wave set files and there seemed a lot 
more set files in that version. In w.e. 9.5.1 there seems to be only 22 set 
files.None of them related to gold wave.

When I open gold wave and then press control backslash, it opens the w.e 
control panel but there are no associated files with gold wave.

How do I associate the gold wave files and where do I get them from? I did 
install the Gold wave enhanced app. No keyboard commands speak, nothing.

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drop box problem

2016-08-27 Thread bj colt via Talk

Hi List,

I downloaded the latest build of drop box a few days ago. When I tried to 
install it. It went through the process but then it got to “Drop box set up” 
and just stayed there. I couldn’t read anything on the screen, nothing. No next 
button, nothing. I tried maximising the screen, using the tab and shift tab, 
using the numberpad. No joy. 

Is there a problem on my side? I’m using a Samsung laptop, 500 gig hard drive, 
2.8 ghz pentium processor, 4 gig ram. Windows 7.

In the start menu, drop box is there, when I click on drop box, it opens up the 
screen as above”Drop Box set up”. and hangs there. It appears installed in 
programmes and features. Something wierd going on.

Any help would be appreciated.

Live long and prosper, John 
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Re: Saying goodbye

2016-08-26 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Mark,

You definitly will be missed. Take care and "Live long and prosper".

I will be keeping up my endeavours to ensure we try and get as much access 
as possible. Sadly I see more and more lack of progress in accessiblity over 
here in the uk.


No matter what I will keep going through thick and thin.

Take care and sincere thanks Mark for all you have done with accessibility 
issues.


Sincerely, John

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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:58 PM
To: 'Marc Solomon' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Saying goodbye

Hi Marc. We will all miss you. I wish you all the best with your new job,
and good luck with it, and thanks for all that you did for us, the
Window-Eyes community. Thanks, Sky.
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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Saying goodbye

Hi everyone,
It has been a pleasure and a privilege to be part of the Window-Eyes
community for the past 7 years. So, it is with a heavy heart that I share
this news. Today is my last day working for Ai Squared. I was made a job
offer that was too good to refuse. As much as I love my current job, this
was the best decision for my family. Next month, I will start my new job as
a Senior Accessibility Specialist for JP Morgan Chase. This position will
give me the opportunity to help Chase further their mission to build
inclusive digital experiences for all of their customers. If you would like
to stay in touch, feel free to follow me on Twitter. I don't tweet often,
but when I do, I usually distribute information on digital accessibility and
assistive technology. My handle is mr_marcsolomon. As a final thought,
please continue to educate others about the importance of accessibility and
do what you can to help make this world a better place.
Cheers,
Marc
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Re: Interesting fb post

2016-01-11 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Terry,

While I did read braille, speech has overtaken that method of reading. When 
I did my Hon BA Social science course. I read hundreds of books. I mean 
hundreds. I scanned in every single one of them. Reading them in braille 
would have taken me abgout 40 years. My fingertip senses have reduced 
dramatically because of playing the guitar and neuropathy from Diabetes.


I could never go back to braille. At one time I did read 60 words a minute. 
Which isn't fast, maybe between mid and high but not fast. Some people could 
read it fast. However for the deaf bllind 1,000 dollars is something else. 
Or for those who prefer braille. About time the price was brought down. Rip 
off bastards.lol


Live long and prosper, John

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From: "Terry Bartlett via Talk" 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 5:29 PM
To: "talk list" 
Subject: Interesting fb post


Today, blind people fluent in Braille can read computer screens s


through refreshable displays that convert words to raised dots – but


only one line at a time.

For the sighted, imagine a Kindle that presents just 40 characters per


page, says Sile O’Modhrain, an associate professor of Music, Theatre


and Dance at U-M, who is blind. Forty characters amounts to about 10


words.

The process is slow. It doesn’t give context. It’s expensive. And


O’Modhrain believes it's one of the factors contributing to Braille’s


declining use. Even though fluency in the nearly 200-year-old code is


linked with higher employment and academic performance for the


visually impaired, fewer blind people are learning and using it.


Taking Braille’s place are text-to-speech programs that make it easier


and faster to consume electronic information, but at the same time,


hold back literacy.

So O’Modhrain, who is also in the School of Information, has teamed up


with engineering researchers to build a better Braille display – one


that could show the equivalent of a whole Kindle screen at once. In


addition, it could translate beyond text, rendering graphs, charts,


spreadsheets, maps and complicated equations in a medium the blind


could more fully understand with their fingertips.

“What we’re trying to build in this project is full-page tactile


screen for something like a Kindle or an iPad where you could just


display refreshable text in real time,” O’Modhrain said. “Relative to


what’s done today, and how that’s done, it’s a complete paradigm


shift.”

In the 1950s, about half of blind children learned to read Braille,


according to the National Federation of the Blind. Today, that number


is just 10 percent. Yet 80 percent of the blind people who are


employed know Braille. Those numbers don’t tell the whole story, as


definitions and health outcomes have evolved over the years. But the


trend they suggest is real.

“When you’re learning to read and write, it’s hard to find a


substitute for physically encounter text – whether it’s in visual or


tactile form,” O’Modhrain said. ”There are many studies that show that


listening to something is not the same as reading it.”

The system she is developing with Brent Gillespie, an associate


professor of mechanical engineering, and Alex Russomanno, a doctoral


student in the same department, would make e-reading for the blind


more efficient and a lot less expensive. Today’s commercial one-line


Braille displays cost around $5,000. If you were to directly scale up


the mechanism behind it to show a whole page, it would cost around


$50,000, Russomanno says. The U-M researchers’ aim to offer that


capability at just $1,000 per device.

How can they make a bigger display at a fraction of the cost? Their


answer is microfluidics – a branch of science and engineering that


involves specially etched chips with tiny channels that guide flows


of liquid or air. Microfluidic chips are modeled and made like the


integrated circuits of computers. They are printed rather than


assembled.

“We use the equivalent of electronic logic and circuitry,” Russomanno


said. “When I say that, I’m referring to the way a computer works,


with transistors and resistors, except ours is not electronic at all.


It’s fluidic. Instead of high voltage and low voltage you have high


pressure and low pressure, and instead of electric current flow you


have fluid flow and you can achieve the same basic logic features.”

And like the 0s and 1s that undergird computing, Braille is a binary


code. Each Braille cell (which is sometimes a letter and sometimes a


whole word) contains six dots that can be either raised or flat to


convey different information.

Michigan engineers have developed technology that may soon lead to a


refreshable braille tablet the size of a Kindle.

“The dots are either there or they’re not,” O’Modhrain said. “That’s


why this circuit is so elegant.”

With just two input valves, the

Re: OT: Tell me what this is please?

2015-03-07 Thread bj colt via Talk


   Hi Trey,

The taptapc app is not a free app. I think one has to pay per set ammount of 
pictures. It only works with the iphone.


However there are other aps that are similar and free. I use Goggle eyes 
which can be found at the app store. It is completely free and scans tins, 
packet's bgottles for print and then tells you in a clear voice what it is.


Take care.

Live long and prosper, John

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Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:57 AM
To: John Chilelli j...@neo.rr.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: OT: Tell me what this is please?


Tap tap see or be my eyes

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:34 PM, John Chilelli via Talk 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:


Hi all,



Would someone please be so kind as to send me the link or the name of 
that
ap when you take a picture of something, folks are standing by to tell 
you

what it is.  It's a fairly new ap I think.



I hurt myself and I need to take some I v prophin for some minor pain and 
I

can't figure out which bottle is the I V ProFin.



Thanks much,



John



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Re: OT: Tell me what this is please?

2015-03-07 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi John,

Taptapc is an app that does what you require but it costs per set ammount of 
pictures. However there are free apps out there. I use one called goggle 
eyes and it works great. Very easy to use and it is free. The paid app costs 
very little but removes advertisements. There is another app and it is free 
but can't remember the name of it. You can find information on these apps at 
apple-vis.com


Live long and prosper, John

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Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:34 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: OT: Tell me what this is please?


Hi all,



Would someone please be so kind as to send me the link or the name of that
ap when you take a picture of something, folks are standing by to tell you
what it is.  It's a fairly new ap I think.



I hurt myself and I need to take some I v prophin for some minor pain and 
I

can't figure out which bottle is the I V ProFin.



Thanks much,



John



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Re: WLM again

2015-02-25 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Steve,

I have turned off the wlm app and since then I have had very few problems. 
There is the odd occassion when I can't read what I have written but that is 
rare. There are no silences either. That option is worth trying.


Live long and prosper, John

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Subject: Re: WLM again


Hello Tony,

Please follow the steps at www.gwmicro.com/kb2016, and let me know if
that resolves the issue.

Steve

On 2/24/2015 4:23 PM, tchild via Talk wrote:

Hi all,
I noticed that some emails I get when I open them WE goes silent, and a 
few times the only way I can get WE talking again is a reboot. On quite a 
few occassions the keyboard just quit working and the mouse still moves 
but would not close the email. Any ideas on this?

Thanks Tony
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windows live mail problem

2015-02-20 Thread bj colt via Talk

Dear List,

I have a major email problem and unsure where the exact answer lies.

I sent an email to a friend yesterday and somehow within the email was an exact 
copy of a reciept from Amazon, sent to me on the 31st January. It was situated 
after my email to my friend and followed by emails to my friend running in that 
normal sequence.

I've also had problems regarding trying to send emails. Often when I am either 
uploading or downloading and I try to send an email. I get an error message 
saying the message cannot be sent as the file attachment is too large. I 
haven't added a file attachment. Yesterday I got another error message saying I 
had not enough memory to send an email. Once my upload had finished I was able 
to send an email no problem. 

The situation is a little worrying as my private address and personal details 
might be sent to anyone, not just friends. 

I'm certain this is not a window-eyes problem. Has anyone any idea what the 
problem might be?

It just doesn't make any sense.

Similarly, on the guardian newspaper web site, I hear references to my google 
search of months ago. Not recent searches. This is certainly wierd.  I know 
that at one point I was informed by gwmicro that this extranious chatter was 
caused when I copied and pasted some web content to a word document.

I haven't done that in the past 4 months.

If anyone can give me any idea's as to why these things are happening, It would 
be very much appreciated.

Live long and prosper, John
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Re: Outlook 2010, WE 8.4, Windows 7

2015-02-16 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Amy,

As far as office 2013 is concerned, I don't think so. It is a subscription 
based product. This means it costs x ammount of dollars per month, forever. 
Office 2010 is avaliable on cd but as usual this costs a little extra for 
the  priveledge. Why not download it and then transfer it to disc. It isn't 
difficult and if you do need any help, just let me know and I will be able 
to help.


Another tip is that a lot of sites sell Windows office 2010 at a reduced 
price if you or any member of your family are student's. Often no proof is 
required.


Live long and prosper, John

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To: Van Lant, Robin robin_van_l...@key.com; Window-Eyes Discussion 
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Subject: Re: Outlook 2010, WE 8.4, Windows 7


Was wondering if you can still buy Microsoft Office on cd. I would
rather buy it on cd than download off interent. Thanks

On 2/16/15, Van Lant, Robin via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Martha,
I do not have a message in my folders right now that was sent to a group, 
so

I cannot play with it.  The closest I have is a group invitation that was
just sent out.  Here's a coupe things to note.

When a group is listed in the to field, there is a small icon just to the
left of the name.  Sighted people double click on that to expand the 
group.
You can probably route your mouse to the group name then move to the left 
to
click on that.  In the calendar invitation I have with a group name, I 
found
that I could use the application key to open the submenu while on the 
group
name and one of the options is to expand the contact group.  I assume 
that

will also work on an incoming message.  However, if you are using message
virtualization, you might need to either disable that temporarily or, my
trick is to hit reply on the message and then go to the To or cc field to
access the contact lists.



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Behalf

Of Martha Reaney via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:23 AM
To: via Talk
Subject: Outlook 2010, WE 8.4, Windows 7

Hi.
I have received an email with a contact group in the TO: field.
How do I find out who are the members in that contact group?

Thanks for the help!

Martha
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Re: DVD Playback Software

2015-02-15 Thread bj colt via Talk


Hi Joseph,

From what I remember, press enter 3 times when power dvd comes up after 
putting in a dvd. I think it is on this laptop. I had the list of key 
strokes somewhere, I will try and find them for you. an d it should play. I 
used to know all the key strokes for it. That one I remember. Perhaps Google 
might help.



live long and prosper, Ohn
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Subject: DVD Playback Software


Hi list:



Anyone know of a good DVD playback solution that works well with
Window-Eyes.  My laptop comes with a version of Power DVD, but, it appears
not to be accessible.



Thanks!

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