Re: Filters working in v5?
Hi Vilius, Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. DC that's not the problem with IMAP, it's the beauty of IMAP. It's the DC whole point. This also goes into another philosophy: Do we want to keep our own data or do we want to put all our eggs in one cloud whose keepers we have to trust. The mods will slap us soon for off-topic discussions. Even if using POP, how would you know if mail server admin doesn't forward all your messages internally to his account? If you cannot trust your mail provider it doesn't matter if it's IMAP or POP. I think that the matter here was not a leak of information but rather a trust that person on the other side is reliable as a professional should be and won't make mistake while backing up and storing your our data. Such mistakes happens even to the best and as far as I remember couple years ago there was a case of AOL (if I'm not mistaken it was AOL) where they lost main data and back-up data of their customers. Anyway, not looking too far away, an example of TBBETA list shows that such thing can happen even to people that are rather pros. I do keep my back-up on two BD disks about 3 times a year (different brands) and do try to back-up TBK archive to another HDD once a month as well as I do save all sent/received e-mail as EML and my OS auto sync it daily to my third HDD at night). There is one more thing I do, 2-3 times a month I do upload encrypted with 7ZIP EML to European remote computer (used by my parents). Chances that all backups die at the same time (especially the one on remote computer are slim). Why so many HDD backups and a remote backup? Within last 4 years I had 3 HDD that died (two of them almost simultaneously ; all of them were below 2 years old) and I had to buy new ones... If I loose all of this backups I will be the ONLY to blame :) -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Sunday, June 17, 2012 (16:28 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hi Dwight, On Saturday, June 16, 2012, 9:03:10 AM, RS (FEDARA) wrote: Another matter is that you need a server to store so much data and it likely to increase a cost (my e-mail box is about plus 1-1.2GB each year). I just priced a few 2T drives, and the cost per gigabite runs in the neighborhood of US$.05. I think that is about .04 Euro, or .03 pound sterling. What I ment was a cost that your provider would charge you if you re-download all data if you have IMAP (I use it on two computers so would be x2 ; plus my FTP upload/download charge). Anyway, if I keep all of that data at my provider's server it's more than a storage I have there :) As for HDD: Have three 2TB HDD (2xWD, 1xSeagate ; so far all good (about 1.5year ; on 24/7 about halt time of the year)), one 1TB (Seagate) (about 3 years old ; on 24/7 whole year ; OS HDD ; unfortunately started making strange noises last week). As mentioned in previous e-mail: one WD, one Seagate and one Samsung died within last 4 years. -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Sunday, June 17, 2012 (16:50 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Sveiki, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 8:05:18 AM, you wrote: Hello Scuddy, Friday, June 15, 2012, 9:49:07 PM, you wrote: TF With IMAP I have only the headers on the computer. I want to open a TF mail and the attachments, it takes ages which I have to spend in front TF of the computer. smn Why not set it to download everything and then you have the best of both worlds. Then I would have IMAP emulating POP... Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. I keep 14 days worth of mail on the server, older mails are on my laptop and my PC. If I keep more than say, 2,000 or 3,000 messages on the server, download becomes very slow, so I try to limit the number of messages. This is a bug in your IMAP server or in your IMAP client. It doesn't matter how many messages you have on the server. Good written client always downloads only new messages. I have more than 125000 messages and it works in a matter of half a second. -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
On Saturday, June 16, 2012, 12:05:18 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. that's not the problem with IMAP, it's the beauty of IMAP. It's the whole point. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.1.6.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hi Dwight, Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. that's not the problem with IMAP, it's the beauty of IMAP. It's the whole point. Up to the moment your e-mail box is equal to about 8GB and something happens so you need to reinstall your client and re-download 8GB while on POP3 you can keep a local copy and have it reinstalled within an hour or less. Another matter is that you need a server to store so much data and it likely to increase a cost (my e-mail box is about plus 1-1.2GB each year). -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Saturday, June 16, 2012 (21:50 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Thomas, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 12:05:18 AM, you wrote: Then I would have IMAP emulating POP... The main reason I use IMAP is the ability to have two computers with the same messages on both, all sent messages on both, all messages I have read marked as read, etc. If you only use one computer then no big deal. Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. I keep 14 days worth of mail on the server, older mails are on my laptop and my PC. If I keep more than say, 2,000 or 3,000 messages on the server, download becomes very slow, so I try to limit the number of messages. If you require you can set-up an archive account in TB! and move all the old messages there. The archive account can be local. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello RS, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 9:03:10 PM, you wrote: Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. that's not the problem with IMAP, it's the beauty of IMAP. It's the whole point. RF Up to the moment your e-mail box is equal to about 8GB and something RF happens so you need to reinstall your client and re-download 8GB while RF on POP3 you can keep a local copy and have it reinstalled within an RF hour or less. RF Another matter is that you need a server to store so much data and it RF likely to increase a cost (my e-mail box is about plus 1-1.2GB each RF year). Thank you for your support! I thought I was the only one who is happy with POP. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Vilius, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 1:26:23 PM, you wrote: Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. I keep 14 days worth of mail on the server, older mails are on my laptop and my PC. If I keep more than say, 2,000 or 3,000 messages on the server, download becomes very slow, so I try to limit the number of messages. VŠ This is a bug in your IMAP server or in your IMAP client. It doesn't VŠ matter how many messages you have on the server. Good written client VŠ always downloads only new messages. I have more than 125000 messages VŠ and it works in a matter of half a second. Actually, the slow server is a POP server. Checking for new messages takes so long, and that's not only with TB! but also with other clients, and with all servers I have used. If that does not apply to IMAP, it's my mistake. Does IMAP not need to check for new messages? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Dwight, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 6:03:22 PM, you wrote: Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. DC that's not the problem with IMAP, it's the beauty of IMAP. It's the DC whole point. This also goes into another philosophy: Do we want to keep our own data or do we want to put all our eggs in one cloud whose keepers we have to trust. The mods will slap us soon for off-topic discussions. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Stuart, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 9:40:37 PM, you wrote: Then I would have IMAP emulating POP... S The main reason I use IMAP is the ability to have two computers with the same S messages on both, all sent messages on both, all messages I have read marked as S read, etc. If you only use one computer then no big deal. I use three computers and have all messages on each. The beauty is that if one HD crashes, I always have two backups. For outgoing messages, I BCC to myself. Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. I keep 14 days worth of mail on the server, older mails are on my laptop and my PC. If I keep more than say, 2,000 or 3,000 messages on the server, download becomes very slow, so I try to limit the number of messages. S If you require you can set-up an archive account in TB! and move all the old S messages there. The archive account can be local. I have 13 POP acounts. And one IMAP account because that provider does not provide POP access. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Thank you for your support! I thought I was the only one who is happy with POP. I like POP too! :) -- Rick There is no snooze button for a cat that wants breakfast. -Anonymous v5.1.6.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Thank you for your support! I thought I was the only one who is happy with POP. I like POP too! :) I dont want to be the moderator here, but the topis does not reflect the subject. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Sveiki, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 6:32:12 PM, you wrote: Hello Vilius, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 1:26:23 PM, you wrote: Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. I keep 14 days worth of mail on the server, older mails are on my laptop and my PC. If I keep more than say, 2,000 or 3,000 messages on the server, download becomes very slow, so I try to limit the number of messages. VŠ This is a bug in your IMAP server or in your IMAP client. It doesn't VŠ matter how many messages you have on the server. Good written client VŠ always downloads only new messages. I have more than 125000 messages VŠ and it works in a matter of half a second. Actually, the slow server is a POP server. Checking for new messages takes so long, and that's not only with TB! but also with other clients, and with all servers I have used. If that does not apply to IMAP, it's my mistake. Does IMAP not need to check for new messages? It depends how you have configured IMAP client, but usually the client asks the server: What new messages do you have since I last time checked? The server responds with something like this: I have 25 new messages with IDs 150,151,152,etc. The client then downloads message *headers* to list them in the mailbox on the client. After the the user can decide which messages he needs and download manually a whole message. -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Sveiki, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 6:34:39 PM, you wrote: Hello Dwight, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 6:03:22 PM, you wrote: Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. DC that's not the problem with IMAP, it's the beauty of IMAP. It's the DC whole point. This also goes into another philosophy: Do we want to keep our own data or do we want to put all our eggs in one cloud whose keepers we have to trust. The mods will slap us soon for off-topic discussions. Even if using POP, how would you know if mail server admin doesn't forward all your messages internally to his account? If you cannot trust your mail provider it doesn't matter if it's IMAP or POP. -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
On Saturday, June 16, 2012, 9:03:10 AM, RS (FEDARA) wrote: Another matter is that you need a server to store so much data and it likely to increase a cost (my e-mail box is about plus 1-1.2GB each year). I just priced a few 2T drives, and the cost per gigabite runs in the neighborhood of US$.05. I think that is about .04 Euro, or .03 pound sterling. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.1.6.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
On Saturday, June 16, 2012, 10:34:39 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: This also goes into another philosophy: Do we want to keep our own data or do we want to put all our eggs in one cloud whose keepers we have to trust. To me, this depends on whether I ever leave the house. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.1.6.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Dwight, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 8:15:48 PM, you wrote: Just picking this post to throw in another argument for POP you guys may not be aware of: Slow internet connection. DC so is it faster when you download same data with POP than with IMAP? DC And will you be switching to POP for your phone? No. With POP I can set the machine to download the messages and attachments while I go and make a coffee. Or take a shower (in earlier times with even slower internet connections). Then everything is on my computer and I can work fast. With IMAP I have only the headers on the computer. I want to open a mail and the attachments, it takes ages which I have to spend in front of the computer. I used to have a phone that downloaded messages by POP, but that is nonsense. My iPhone uses IMAP and I only download the headers. Mostly I can judge from the subject line whether I need to read the whole mail and then, whether I actually need to download the attachments. This is very different from the normal working environment: The phone is a crutch I use when I am travelling and do not have access to my laptop. For actaul working, POP is best. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Thomas, A reminder of what Thomas Fernandez typed on: Friday, June 15, 2012 at 21:24:20 GMT +0700 TF With IMAP I have only the headers on the computer. I want to open a TF mail and the attachments, it takes ages which I have to spend in front TF of the computer. Why not set it to download everything and then you have the best of both worlds. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v5.1.6.4 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Scuddy, Friday, June 15, 2012, 9:49:07 PM, you wrote: TF With IMAP I have only the headers on the computer. I want to open a TF mail and the attachments, it takes ages which I have to spend in front TF of the computer. smn Why not set it to download everything and then you have the best of both worlds. Then I would have IMAP emulating POP... Another problem with IMAP is that the messages have to actually be kept on the server. I keep 14 days worth of mail on the server, older mails are on my laptop and my PC. If I keep more than say, 2,000 or 3,000 messages on the server, download becomes very slow, so I try to limit the number of messages. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hi, With IMAP, only the headers would be downloaded. For each message and especially their attachments, I would have to download while waiting in front of the computer. Theoretically, no: There is the option to have TheBat download everything at once. Granted, the option hasn't worked like it is supposed to for ages. In v5.0.36.2, it still doesn't. -- Mit freundlichem Gruß Alto Speckhardt mailto:a...@treadstone79.de TheBat v5.0.36.2 pgpv708gNK73V.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
On Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 9:28:57 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Just picking this post to throw in another argument for POP you guys may not be aware of: Slow internet connection. so is it faster when you download same data with POP than with IMAP? And will you be switching to POP for your phone? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.1.2.2 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Filters working in v5?
On Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 9:28:57 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Just picking this post to throw in another argument for POP you guys may not be aware of: Slow internet connection. so is it faster when you download same data with POP than with IMAP? And will you be switching to POP for your phone? IMAP will be faster because you can specify which parts you can download. Headers, text part, html part, attachments, etc. And then later manually initiate full download only on specific messages. This especially useful for server-side Sent Mail folder, where you only sometimes need a full message. -- Vilius Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5? (Securing your hardware) :)
Hello RS, Rest of the info was correct. It's about 2am here now and it's probably a high time for me to get to bed. Luckily, most of us don't live in China and have to worry about security to that extent. Do you have TrueCrypt set up for hidden volumes and plausible deniability? If you use a VPN to a trusted server in EU/US, aren't you better off leaving you email on the trusted IMAP server so if you do loose your laptop again, your email is easily recoverable? I do appreciate that some unlucky people have a real need to protect themselves from serious danger and to leave as little trace as possible. My TB installation on my laptop is password protected and 'On the Fly' encrypted. Any idea how secure that is? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.2 Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5? (Securing your hardware) :)
Hi Tony, TO Luckily, most of us don't live in China and have to worry about TO security to that extent. Do you have TrueCrypt set up for hidden TO volumes and plausible deniability? Only a small one for most important files (ex: passwords and user names file) but I made it rather as a test. There was a case of Brasilian banker that encrypted his HDD with TC (AES only) ; when police confiscated HDD they tried to decrypt it (with FBI help) for 18 month and failed. On my HDD (apart of OS) you have triple encryption on any container/partition with a keyfile so it's rather unbreakable within reasonable time. TC for me is rather to protect me when laptop is lost than to try to hide data from police (no matter if I think they have right to spy on us all the time ; ex: Google Drive, Dropbox, TuneIn, VoIP connection software on my Android phone and many more are already blocked in China because police can't control moved data). It's one of the reasons why apart of protecting my data against ordinary theft I do try to protect my privacy :) IMO hidden volume can be detected in the container even if you cooperate with police - there will be a size difference of data copied to a container and container size (unless I'm mistaken here). IMO, much better to claim plausible deniability is encrypting a raw clusters on the HDD (ex: external). In that way data on such HDD looks like a rubbish without any structure nor readable header to see what's there unless you know the password or a keyfile. Each time you connect such HDD to your system Windows is reporting unformatted drive and asks to format it. As for AES hardware encrypted USB it's possible that you might not know the password if ie. your kid for instance changed it long time ago :) Life is life ;P TO If you use a VPN to a trusted server in EU/US, aren't you better TO off leaving you email on the trusted IMAP server so if you do TO loose your laptop again, your email is easily recoverable? First is the size (over 6GB database), second is that I can do the same with TBK archive copied in TC container and burnt on DL DVD. Actually I have all e-mails doubled because every e-mail I sent and receive is saved on HDD as EML and I do make copies of it. I do burn on DVD TC containers so even if somebody gets it they can't read it. Last thing is that I do not have much trust in IMAP and leaving your data on some server ; even big companies lost customers data due to mistakes - you can call me old fashioned here but if it's lost I can only blame myself :) I do appreciate that some unlucky people have a real need to protect themselves from serious danger and to leave as little trace as possible. My TB installation on my laptop is password protected and 'On the Fly' encrypted. Any idea how secure that is? Sorry, I don't know. I would love to know what encryption is used by Ritlab. As for now I use non-encrypted TB! installed on separated TC container and it works good for me. I used on-fly-encrypted version first I installed TB! but had to switch to none-encrypted due to some problems I had with it (don't remember now what it was ; reported it on BugTraq but it's gone now). Tried to use Voyager that is on-fly-encrypted on my 32GB USB but it didn't work good. I mean here that Voyager worked good but sync to a my desktop failed 3 times in a raw so I just gave it up. At the moment I just use TBK to move it between laptop-desktop if I need to travel. -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Wednesday, May 2, 2012 (19:08 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Rick, Monday, April 30, 2012, 7:50:41 AM, you wrote: (Delayed sending already exists in v4). R Yes but it was finally FIXED by v5. No problem, I am not using this feature. R As for lesser bugs, ONE irritant is that when exiting templates (I R use a couple of folder templates) AUTOWRAP, AUTO FORMAT and JUSTIFY R ON AUTOWRAP are always on. If you deselect them, it doesn't R remember the setting Needs fixing. R The HTML editor could use some work and the way it handles R externally linked graphics needs to be totally rethought I hear that the HTML editor has improved from v4 to v5. I need it sometimes for business mails (to embed pictures or tables). -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Paul, Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 10:57:05 PM, you wrote: The message base is not local. R Is that not the nature of the beast? If you want security, us POP PVN Yup! Just picking this post to throw in another argument for POP you guys may not be aware of: Slow internet connection. I just came back from a province in Northern Thailand where my only access to the internet was GPRS (not even EDGE). So, I set TB! to download messages, and went to have breakfast. After that, all messages where on the computer, I could read and reply. With IMAP, only the headers would be downloaded. For each message and especially their attachments, I would have to download while waiting in front of the computer. Argument in favour of IMAP: I use IMAP on my iPhone. So I download only the headers when I'm travelling, reducing international roaming charges. If there is a message I need to read, I open that one only. However, this is not useful at my PCs, as I need to download all messages an attachments anyway. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Paul, IMO IMAP is the only driving force for v5. IMAP is not a part of my future for reasons of security that cannot be overcome with IMAP. What security issues do you see in IMAP? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.2 Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
IMO IMAP is the only driving force for v5. IMAP is not a part of my future for reasons of security that cannot be overcome with IMAP. TH What security issues do you see in IMAP? The message base is not local. Is that not the nature of the beast? If you want security, us POP -- Rick Dear Prince Charming, You've got some explaining to do! Sincerely, Cinderella, Snow White, Rapunzel, and Sleeping Beauty v5.1.2.2 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5? (Securing your hardware) :)
Hi Raymund, RA if your mail is that interesting to an attacker he/she/it will RA find a way to get it from your computer as well... You're right in your statement but cost vs value is a question here :) In my case no one will try to get my data ; way too much work to do :) 1. True Crypt Encrypted HDD (Serpent-Twofish-AES with SHA512 hash) and encrypted not with a password but SHA-512 keyfile, 2. Keyfile could be stolen so it's on hardware AES encrypted USB with small/capitalized letters and digits (3 wrong passwords and you can only format it ; unless Sandisk included some backdoor in it :)) ; I do have 2 copies of such USB in separated places of the world (and I'm the only person that knows where it is :)), 3. Notebook camera is set to facial recognition and if I'm gone for about 2s it locks down and my face and password are required to get an access (only drawback here is a need for decent light conditions). Password is not a word but mixture of small/capital letters and digits. 4. USB ports are turn-off and not accessible up to the moment you Unlock them after plugging in a USB drive. 5. All my portable HDD/USB are TC encrypted with keyfiles. 6. Password on BIOS That one is only to slow common thieves down and not to get HDD formatted within first 1-2 hours after your notebook is gone. 7. E-mail clients and browsers are set up to connect to Internet over encrypted VPN ; have that option enabled as well for a whole OS (two reasons here): a) Higher security (as I never had enough time to dig up a matter of e-mail encryption ; anyway if I'm not mistaken recipient must to do some work on his end as well and probably most people would not be able to do that properly) b) I'm in China and amazingly quite often connecting to US/EU server even through EU VPN is faster than direct connection from China (no comment here) and more stable (no Time Outs ; before on Chinese cable connection I had sometimes up to 90% of time out from time to time), There is one more option in my notebook BIOS: Computrace but I didn't dare to turn it on because as per info I've found it can't be turn off by a user (remote company must reset your notebook) nor uninstalled from BIOS after it's set active (if BIOS is reflashed it's repairing itself). Why to do that? My previous notebook was once stolen and had only BIOS protection so data were fully accessible if HDD is taken out and connected to other machine. However, that BIOS saved HDD from being formatted before I luckily found it and bought it back. At least make them not be able to read your data or sweat while trying to access it ; if you're not lucky enough to get it back fast enough :) -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Wednesday, May 2, 2012 (00:34 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Sveiki, Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 6:37:48 PM, you wrote: 5/1/2012 11:36 AM Hi Tony, On 5/1/2012 Tony Hoare wrote: IMO IMAP is the only driving force for v5. IMAP is not a part of my future for reasons of security that cannot be overcome with IMAP. TH What security issues do you see in IMAP? The message base is not local. If an attacker is in possesion of mail server it doesn't matter if it's IMAP or POP. He will still be able to read your new email. IMAP is just a protocol to get email from the server. It is no more or less secure than POP. Using POP3 and thinking that you are somehow more secure is completely ridicilous idea. If you need a security encrypt your email base (be it local or on the server). Most of the modern email server can do that. -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5? (Securing your hardware) :)
Hi All, 1. True Crypt Encrypted HDD (Serpent-Twofish-AES with SHA512 hash) and encrypted not with a password but SHA-512 keyfile, Mistyped here ; I wrote OS but meant other containers. OS is AES encrypted with a password and containers are Serpent-Twofish-AES encrypted (mounted separately). All data are set to non-OS partition but to separated container mounted as a drive after OS is up (ex: TB!'s data folder). Keyfiles and Containers headers are saved on AES hardware encrypted USB (headers are to be used if something happens to the container ; so far never had to use them (luckily)). Rest of the info was correct. It's about 2am here now and it's probably a high time for me to get to bed. -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) POP3 accounts (x5) Wednesday, May 2, 2012 (01:57 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hallo Raymund, On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:04:13 +0200GMT (29-4-2012, 9:04 , where I live), you wrote: Does anybody still have any issues with filters? If so, kindly advise whether you are using POP or IMAP. RT I have a filter that moves a received message from an IMAP account to RT a common folder and afterwards set it to read. RT Move works fine. Changing the status doesn't. What if you change the sequence of the actions? -- Groetjes, Roelof Borg Moderator: Your Topic Is Irrelevant, your arguments are futile. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Thomas, Does anybody still have any issues with filters? If so, kindly advise whether you are using POP or IMAP. I use a number of Incoming, Outgoing, Read and Replied filters (account filters, not common) and they are all working fine in my POP accounts. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Raymund, On 29-04-2012 09:04, you wrote in mid:16310293318.20120429090...@gmx.de: I have a filter that moves a received message from an IMAP account to a common folder and afterwards set it to read. Move works fine. Changing the status doesn't. Moving on IMAP works for me 40-60% of the time. Marking as read or assigning colour group doesn't. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 5.1.2 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras env. 4 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env. os Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello MAU, Sunday, April 29, 2012, 2:40:53 PM, you wrote: Does anybody still have any issues with filters? If so, kindly advise whether you are using POP or IMAP. M I use a number of Incoming, Outgoing, Read and Replied filters (account M filters, not common) and they are all working fine in my POP accounts. Thanks. the problems just reported are with IMAP accounts, and like you, I use only POP. Over 100 filters though, that's why I am reluctant: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Maybe it's time for a little prep-talk again. In a nut-shell, why should I (POP-user) upgrade to v5? I am not only aksing for myself, I am also aksing because other people ask me. Therefore, a 20-page changelog won't help to convince anybody. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
4/29/2012 10:19 AM Hi Thomas, On 4/29/2012 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Over 100 filters though, that's why I am reluctant: If it ain't broke, TF don't fix it. Precisely! TF Maybe it's time for a little prep-talk again. In a nut-shell, why TF should I (POP-user) upgrade to v5? I am not only aksing for myself, I TF am also aksing because other people ask me. Therefore, a 20-page TF changelog won't help to convince anybody. Reason: 1. 2. 3. Filters work well Delayed sending is AWESOME Less bugs Drag and drop images in HTML emails I could go on - what specifically concerns you? -- Rick Our task must be to free ourselves by widening the circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. --Albert Einstein, physicist v5.1.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hello Rick, Sunday, April 29, 2012, 11:00:45 PM, you wrote: 4/29/2012 10:19 AM Hi Thomas, On 4/29/2012 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Over 100 filters though, that's why I am reluctant: If it ain't broke, TF don't fix it. Precisely! TF Maybe it's time for a little prep-talk again. In a nut-shell, why TF should I (POP-user) upgrade to v5? I am not only aksing for myself, I TF am also aksing because other people ask me. Therefore, a 20-page TF changelog won't help to convince anybody. Reason: 1. 2. 3. R Filters work well R Delayed sending is AWESOME R Less bugs R Drag and drop images in HTML emails R I could go on - what specifically concerns you? What concerns me are bugs. Which one of the less bugs are your pet peeves? Anyway, thanks for the feature of dragdrop images. Can anybody else have a new feature they find useful? (Delayed sending already exists in v4). -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
What concerns me are bugs. Which one of the less bugs are your pet peeves? Anyway, thanks for the feature of dragdrop images. Can anybody else have a new feature they find useful? Paste as plain text? (Delayed sending already exists in v4). Yes but it was finally FIXED by v5. As for lesser bugs, ONE irritant is that when exiting templates (I use a couple of folder templates) AUTOWRAP, AUTO FORMAT and JUSTIFY ON AUTOWRAP are always on. If you deselect them, it doesn't remember the setting The HTML editor could use some work and the way it handles externally linked graphics needs to be totally rethought -- Rick Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; But rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW--What a ride! v5.1.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters aren't always used automatically
Hello Joe, My question is, did you have to completely delete everything and install from scratch. I can't do that, I have too many filters and lots of folders. Filters can be exported and imported in text form as F.P. showed earlier (copy/paste in Sorting Office). If it's IMAP, folders won't go anywhere from the server. They will reappear in TB after you re-subscribe to them with 'Manage IMAP folders'. -- Best regards, Ivanmailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters aren't always used automatically
Hi, After uninstallation, removal of AddData\The Bat!\MAIL and registry key, reinstallation of TB 4, recreating the mailbox and filters and upgrading back, filters work. (I created MB from scratch - the messages were re-downloaded from the server but all the settings were gone, of course.) So, no idea how to troubleshoot this further without having source code. It could be anything. Recreating the mailbox should help. Confirmed! Now my TB! works with filters. Installed 4.X, setup and update to 5.X...works. Regards Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters aren't always used automatically
Thursday, December 15, 2011, 11:59:50 AM, you wrote: Hi, After uninstallation, removal of AddData\The Bat!\MAIL and registry key, reinstallation of TB 4, recreating the mailbox and filters and upgrading back, filters work. (I created MB from scratch - the messages were re-downloaded from the server but all the settings were gone, of course.) So, no idea how to troubleshoot this further without having source code. It could be anything. Recreating the mailbox should help. Confirmed! Now my TB! works with filters. Installed 4.X, setup and update to 5.X...works. Regards Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html That's great. I have been waiting for a fix to the filters. I upgraded to 5 and had so may filter issues I went back to 4. My question is, did you have to completely delete everything and install from scratch. I can't do that, I have too many filters and lots of folders. Maybe RIT could provide a utility that scans all your settings/filters/folders databases etc. to verify they are OK and can work with 5 and maybe fix any inconsistencies it finds or report something that is not compatible... The normal maintenance center didn't seem to be enough for me. At this point, I would gladly pay RIT for the upgrade, but only if I don't have to jump through hoops to get it to work. What do you all think? Is this possible? -- Best regards, Joemailto:under...@igdc.com Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters aren't always used automatically
Hi, My question is, did you have to completely delete everything and install from scratch. I can't do that, I have too many filters and lots of folders. just a short answer, its ~6am and work calls ;). I case of 2 POP Accounts a made a backup of everything. After that i uninstalled TB!, delete the folder and installed the latest 4.X (search only MSI here in group). After that i restore only POPAccounts and setup IMAP completely new. Testing arround and setup latest 5.X.msi and get the *.26.18 over it. Thats it, works. **26.18 have a bug. options/Usersetting bring me a access violation. F.P. Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters aren't always used automatically
Title: Re: Filters aren't always used automatically I suspect the cause to be in base format differences/upgrade procedures. After upgrading TB through a path developers didn't anticipate (or through buggy versions), MB may have some internal data in an invalid state that causes auto-filtering to fail/be disabled regardless of settings. After uninstallation, removal of AddData\The Bat!\MAIL and registry key, reinstallation of TB 4, recreating the mailbox and filters and upgrading back, filters work. (I created MB from scratch - the messages were re-downloaded from the server but all the settings were gone, of course.) So, no idea how to troubleshoot this further without having source code. It could be anything. Recreating the mailbox should help. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters aren't always used automatically
Hi,
Am 12. Dezember 2011 04:05 schrieb Ivan Pozdeev v...@mail.mipt.ru:
Hello, tbbeta.
very unhappy to start that postings again.but: IMAP Filters still
broken and doesent work.
I imported the filters F.P. provided and, to my most surprise, discoveded that
incoming mail is filtered in one of my mailboxes and isn't in the other.
(i.e. filters are applied when re-filtering a folder but not on mail arrival).
Don't use filters is unchecked in both MBs, filters in question are on and
enabled for all folders.
The MB filters work at was copied from a TB v4.2.44 installation. The other
one remains from TB v5.0.24 from which I upgraded to beta by replacing
thebat.exe .
THANKS for that! I will do everything (OK, not every ;) to help and
find out that problem.
If needed i can setup a testmailaccount to help. Yesterday i try to
delete all old filters, unselect Spam-Plugin (Regula) and setup one
new filter but that doesent work.
Days before i try to install on a seperate computer with the latest
*msi (dont no what version that was, sorry) but that dosent help :-(.
My brand new filter from yesterday what dosent work. Mailadress and
account ist for that copy blanked with some datas.
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [75949C88.01CCB4F2.4571490D.7D51A545]
Name: foren
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`1`0`m...@mailadresse.de\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CAccount1\5CForen
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
If its right what you think about that problem. What solution can be
solve that problem?
Intall all new from scratch? Could be a problem, if you import the old
database i guess these filters are inside that.
Thanks for you test!
Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Uwe, Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 12:47:56 PM, you wrote: FWIW, I have absolutely no problems with filters so far using 6 POP3 accounts (plus MyGate for usenet) and tons of filters. Thanks for your note. My filters stop at 14,000 Message and will progress no further. No matter what I attempt to do. Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Skype me at : ejmings Current beta is 5.0.22.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Rick, On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:01:37 -0400 GMT (15/Aug/11, 8:01 AM +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R I am having almost no trouble with my filters, but I have all POP R accounts, so I don't know if that makes a difference Being a POP person myself, I am curious: What do you mean by almost no trouble? Seeing that I rely heavily on filters and I have absolutely no trouble with v4, I am reluctant to try v5. Maybe you can ease my fears. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.22.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 6:30:16 PM, you wrote: Seeing that I rely heavily on filters and I have absolutely no trouble with v4, I am reluctant to try v5. Maybe you can ease my fears. FWIW, I have absolutely no problems with filters so far using 6 POP3 accounts (plus MyGate for usenet) and tons of filters. -- Regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v5.0.22.10 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.22.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Uwe, On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:47:56 +0200 GMT (17/Aug/11, 23:47 PM +0700 GMT), Uwe Steinfeld wrote: Seeing that I rely heavily on filters and I have absolutely no trouble with v4, I am reluctant to try v5. Maybe you can ease my fears. US FWIW, I have absolutely no problems with filters so far using 6 POP3 US accounts (plus MyGate for usenet) and tons of filters. Thanks for your feedback. Good to hear that MyGate even still works with 5.0.22.10. It's a nice addition to TB!, as I only read two low-traffic newsgroups and don't want to use a heavy newsreader for that. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.22.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Rick, On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:01:37 -0400 GMT (15/Aug/11, 8:01 AM +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R I am having almost no trouble with my filters, but I have all POP R accounts, so I don't know if that makes a difference Being a POP person myself, I am curious: What do you mean by almost no trouble? Seeing that I rely heavily on filters and I have absolutely no trouble with v4, I am reluctant to try v5. Maybe you can ease my fears. Once in a while an email will get hung and not filter until I highlight it I like 5 so far -- Rick Help bring to a close, the Age of Greed v5.0.22.10 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.0.22.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Ethan, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 7:18:12 AM, you wrote: EJM With the pathing fixed, the filters are not working for incoming mail. What do you mean by pathing? We did only change a little bit an algorithm that checks whether a move destination folder's name is valid in the dialog window that selects a destination folder for move or copy filters. We didn't change anything in the code that actually moves or copies messages. The change did only apply to the GUI part. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Ethan, Monday, August 15, 2011, 4:06:37 AM, you wrote: EJM I have over 200 filters. For me to rewrite all of them is a large EJM amount of work. I see a solution to export all the filters to a text file, so you will be able to replace the wrong path in that file, copy it to clipboard and paste the filters. Currently, The Bat! can only to clipboard one filter. We will try to make an option for you to export all the filters at once to a text file. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Ethan, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 12:18:12 AM, you wrote: EJM With the pathing fixed, the filters are not working for incoming mail. EJM Any advice? Go back to an earlier version. No body seems to want them fixed here. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com -- Using The Bat! v5.0.20.1 on Windows XP6 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Richard, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 5:41:26 PM, you wrote: Go back to an earlier version. No body seems to want them fixed here. Richard, thanks so much for your advice. Just wonder which version to down grade to at this point. Any ideas. Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Skype me at : ejmings Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Ethan, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 6:18:01 PM, you wrote: EJM Just wonder which version to down grade to at this point. I'm at 5.0.20.1 but just for a couple of hours so I'm not sure all filters are working (yet). Having not saved a lot of in-between versions, I'll have to go back to 5.0.18 and I don't remember if all filters worked in that. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com -- Using The Bat! v5.0.20.1 on Windows XP6 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Richard, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 6:38:15 PM, you wrote: I'm at 5.0.20.1 but just for a couple of hours so I'm not sure all filters are working (yet). Having not saved a lot of in-between versions, I'll have to go back to 5.0.18 and I don't remember if all filters worked in that. Thanks for your advice. I moved back to 20.1. No success. I'm hoping this problem is going to get addressed. With filters, it makes managing e-mail problematic. I'm surprised no body else has registered concerns over this problem. I was hoping the sorting file would be in a accessible txt file for editing. Other wise, one is left with manually creating the filters. An then, they only work in a very limited manner. Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Skype me at : ejmings Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Richard, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 6:38:15 PM, you wrote: I'm at 5.0.20.1 but just for a couple of hours so I'm not sure all filters are working (yet). Having not saved a lot of in-between versions, I'll have to go back to 5.0.18 and I don't remember if all filters worked in that. Thanks for your advice. I moved back to 20.1. No success. I'm hoping this problem is going to get addressed. With filters, it makes managing e-mail problematic. I'm surprised no body else has registered concerns over this problem. I was hoping the sorting file would be in a accessible txt file for editing. Other wise, one is left with manually creating the filters. An then, they only work in a very limited manner. I don't think everyone is having the trouble. It may be like all my former trouble with delayed sending, it may be a small nasty bug that only affects some people I am having almost no trouble with my filters, but I have all POP accounts, so I don't know if that makes a difference -- Rick A bore is a man who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company. - Gian Vincenzo Gravina v5.0.22.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
Hello Rick, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 9:01:37 PM, you wrote: I don't think everyone is having the trouble. It may be like all my former trouble with delayed sending, it may be a small nasty bug that only affects some people I am having almost no trouble with my filters, but I have all POP accounts, so I don't know if that makes a difference My problem is I am long time user. I just did an operating system repair with Windows 7. I installed a new version of The Bat. Somehow the filters are pathed to the wrong directory. Therefore, the filters cannot work. I have over 200 filters. For me to rewrite all of them is a large amount of work. It appears there is not way to correct this pathing problem except to delete all of the filters and start from scratch. I'm hoping there is another solution. Due to the path problems, the correct filters run slow and overall it is a mess. Hence, that is why I am stuck. Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Skype me at : ejmings Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Remain Broken
My problem is I am long time user. I just did an operating system repair with Windows 7. I installed a new version of The Bat. Somehow the filters are pathed to the wrong directory. Therefore, the filters cannot work. I have over 200 filters. For me to rewrite all of them is a large amount of work. It appears there is not way to correct this pathing problem except to delete all of the filters and start from scratch. I'm hoping there is another solution. Due to the path problems, the correct filters run slow and overall it is a mess. Hence, that is why I am stuck. I would put in a trouble ticket it you are back to the last release. THere has to be an easier way than that -- Rick Dear Boyfriend, I can make your girlfriend scream louder than you can. Sincerely, Spiders v5.0.22.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.0.22.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters : problem when is filter triggered more times during one session
Hello Marek, A reminder of what Marek Mikus typed on: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 at 14:30:26 GMT +0100 MM user has filter with two conditions: MM 1) nove message to folder MM 2) mark message as read MM When is received one message, it is correctly moved and marked as read. MM But when are more messages received and filtered by 1 filter, all are moved MM to folder, but not all are marked as read. MM I have done test and sent 4 same messages to myself, all 4 were moved and 2 MM messages were marked as read only. Confirmed, in multiple accounts. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.145 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.145 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters : problem when is filter triggered more times during one session
Hi, one of that things i can confirm in that IMAP filterings-thing. Do you have any word to my message with my filter ? Is there a cahnce to get a debug-thabat to filter that problem out ? F.P. 2011/3/1 Marek Mikus supp...@thebat.cz Hello, user has filter with two conditions: 1) nove message to folder 2) mark message as read When is received one message, it is correctly moved and marked as read. But when are more messages received and filtered by 1 filter, all are moved to folder, but not all are marked as read. I have done test and sent 4 same messages to myself, all 4 were moved and 2 messages were marked as read only. Confirmations? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.145 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.145 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 5.0.0.145 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters : problem when is filter triggered more times during one session
Hello, user has filter with two conditions: 1) nove message to folder 2) mark message as read When is received one message, it is correctly moved and marked as read. But when are more messages received and filtered by 1 filter, all are moved to folder, but not all are marked as read. I have done test and sent 4 same messages to myself, all 4 were moved and 2 messages were marked as read only. Confirmations? Confirmed with POP accounts moving to a common folder. -- Rick Getting Caught Is The Mother Of Invention v5.0.0.145 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.0.145 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters : Read filters are not triggered automatically
Hello Marek, Sunday, January 16, 2011, 6:17:11 AM, you wrote: MM when You create Read filter with moving message to another folder, select MM message and wait until is marked as read, nothing happens, filter is not MM triggered automatically. MM reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8339 Confirmed. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v5.0.0.129 BETA on Windows XP6 Build 7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.128 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters not working correctly
Hello all, Tuesday, January 26, 2010, Rick wrote: I have 2 filters, one account filter that sorts mail into common folders and then a common filter that moves all remaining mail to a common folder inbox. This has always worked correctly Now the account filter sorts a copy of the mail to the correct folder AND the (final) common filter is also putting a copy in the common inbox folder (making a mess) I would like to keep this active - it is a DUPLICATING MESSAGES issue ... please report it to Bugtraq Done - if anyone else is having the issue, please add your comments Thanks https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7881 -- Rick There isn’t a health care system in the world that doesn’t have stories of people suffering; there isn’t a country in the world that doesn’t have waiting lists. In the United States the waiting list is pretty long - if you don’t have the money, you wait forever. Michael McBane, National Coordinator, www.medicare.ca v4.2.24.1 Alpha on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.24.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters not working correctly
I have 2 filters, one account filter that sorts mail into common folders and then a common filter that moves all remaining mail to a common folder inbox. This has always worked correctly Now the account filter sorts a copy of the mail to the correct folder AND the (final) common filter is also putting a copy in the common inbox folder (making a mess) I would like to keep this active - it is a DUPLICATING MESSAGES issue ... -- Rick In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell v4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters not working correctly
Hello all, Tuesday, January 26, 2010, Rick wrote: I have 2 filters, one account filter that sorts mail into common folders and then a common filter that moves all remaining mail to a common folder inbox. This has always worked correctly Now the account filter sorts a copy of the mail to the correct folder AND the (final) common filter is also putting a copy in the common inbox folder (making a mess) I would like to keep this active - it is a DUPLICATING MESSAGES issue ... please report it to Bugtraq -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.23 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.2.7 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Question
Hello Rick, On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:19:09 -0500 GMT (26/01/2008, 20:19 +0700 GMT), Rick Grunwald wrote: When processing incoming mail, how much of a processing delay does a filter have as far as getting mail from the ISP? Is the process post receiving or during? What I am trying to determine is, if getting the mail from the ISP would be faster if I did not filter the incoming mail real time but process from another group after mail is brought in from the ISP. RG It seems to be processing them as they come in. I have some that RG go into one folder then out to another and they flicker through it RG quickly -almost no time lost Over here, the messages go into the Inbox and are then moved to the folders indicated by the filters. So there is no delay in downloading. -- Cheers, Thomas. I tested this program in the presence of a certified child labourer, and she went crazy over it. - Wanda Sloan in a software review for an icon-generating program. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Question
When processing incoming mail, how much of a processing delay does a filter have as far as getting mail from the ISP? Is the process post receiving or during? What I am trying to determine is, if getting the mail from the ISP would be faster if I did not filter the incoming mail real time but process from another group after mail is brought in from the ISP. It seems to be processing them as they come in. I have some that go into one folder then out to another and they flicker through it quickly -almost no time lost -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters Process Out of Order
Hello Steven, Sorry for such a late reply but I haven't been looking at the list lately. Is it already a known issue that the filters are not being processed in order (from top to bottom) of the filter list? No, it is not a know issue and I don't think it is even an issue at all. I have been using quite a number of filters and quite extensively for years and I have never even suspected filters were not processed in the right order. The sixth filter in my list deletes all messages that have :SPAM: in the subject. That's what _you_want_ your sixth filter to do and what _you_think_ it should do, but it is quite evident from what you say that it isn't doing many times. Why don't you copy (select the filter and Ctrl+C) and past it in a message here so we can take a look at it? The 68th filter in my list moves all messages that do not have the 'X-Text-Classification' header into a folder named 'unclassified'. What anti spam tool/plugin are you using to include :spam: in the subject or the 'X-Text-Classification' header? PopFile perhaps? My unclassified folder currently contains 1836 messages, 1237 of them have subjects beginning with :SPAM:! From this I gather that if your anti-spam tool/plugin includes ':spam:' in the subject it will not include a 'X-Text-Classification' header, correct? Looking at the log shows that, for some reason, some of the :spam: messages are not matching the 6th filter, but instead are being processed by the 68th! I think the word 'matches' that you use may be the clue. Is your filter using a 'Subject _matches_ :spam:' condition? If so, have your tried 'Subject _contains_ ...' condition? Aside of that, are you using account filters or global filters? If global, are you using several accounts and sharing ALL filters with all accounts, specially you sixth (:spam:) filter? Hopefully this will be fixed VERY SOON. Oh, and if it is not a known/open issue, let me know and I'll gladly add it to the bug tracker. TB has many bugs, but I am quite sure this is NOT one of them. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hi Vili, on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 at 20:42 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello Roland, my filters for outgoing mails don't work any more though I have not changed anything. They are all under sent mails. Has there changed anything in TheBat? I cannot confirm... But you can have specific filters. Would you share one of your non-working filter with us? (i.e. copy and paste here). TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [22698E70.01C6888F.1CD822CF.14A7AC0D] Name: Sabine\20. Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5Ctlen.pl\5CSent\5CSabine\20. SetColour -997558334 IsActive Ignore endFilter I wrote: Tell me an email address, that should satisfy this filter. I sent an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the first part of the filter worked, it was put into my Sent folder (I changed that), but the second did not, it did not change the Color Group (I changed that to Red). How stupid I am... ...first part of the filter worked, it was put into my Sent folder (I changed that). Of course, it worked, Sent is the default. So, I changed to my Important folder, it did not work. That is it! I have all mails in my sent-folder! The mails to the mailinglists are in the folder of the corresponding list. In the meantime I have seen that also incomming mails of private people are not any more in the corresponding folder but only in the incoming folder. Please tell me an email address that should satisfy your filter. -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.81.05 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! PGP-Key: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x2187626E pgpbEpkDl41m0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hi Vili, on Thursday, July 6, 2006 at 13:09 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: and the first part of the filter worked, it was put into my Sent folder (I changed that), but the second did not, it did not change the Color Group (I changed that to Red). How stupid I am... ...first part of the filter worked, it was put into my Sent folder (I changed that). Of course, it worked, Sent is the default. So, I changed to my Important folder, it did not work. That is it! I have all mails in my sent-folder! The mails to the mailinglists are in the folder of the corresponding list. How about 9Val's answer/solution? Did you try it? My incoming and outgoing filters are working, but not yours.. I tried it, but also doesn't work! On the German beginner list there has someone else such problems! It is with incoming and outgoing filters. -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.81.06 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! PGP-Key: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x2187626E pgpuIAkPnQCjh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hi Vili, on Thursday, July 6, 2006 at 15:05 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello Roland, How about 9Val's answer/solution? Did you try it? My incoming and outgoing filters are working, but not yours.. I tried it, but also doesn't work! On the German beginner list there has someone else such problems! It is with incoming and outgoing filters. Now I tried an outgoing filter. Mine: Recipient contains sabine I know more Sabine! Yours: Recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ s ^^ Here is the family-name! Here are two letters of the family-name Please understand that I cannot write here a valid email-address of someone who didn't agree for writing in a mailinglist. If I write a test mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , then my filter works, yours not. And no one knows why!!! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.81.06 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! PGP-Key: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x2187626E pgpm99QjoXMoF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hi Vili, on Thursday, July 6, 2006 at 15:08 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello Roland, How about 9Val's answer/solution? Did you try it? My incoming and outgoing filters are working, but not yours.. I tried it, but also doesn't work! On the German beginner list there has someone else such problems! It is with incoming and outgoing filters. I did some further research. When I select match or Match all as Regular expression instead of contains, then YOUR filter also works. 9Val was right. I tried it with a filter @ritlabs.com for folder Ritlabs contains, match all as regular expression and match doesn't work. And this for incoming and outgoing filter. -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.81.06 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! PGP-Key: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x2187626E pgpkSZA6AVrga.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hi Vili, on Thursday, July 6, 2006 at 16:24 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Anyway, I tried it with this email (not real): [EMAIL PROTECTED] It works. It has the same format as what you described. Try to send an email to this email address (fake address), and see if your filter is working. Sorry, but I don't know how to do this. Must I not have an account for this? If not, maybe an other filter gets your mails before this filter. Move to the first position and try again. But it sure works... If I write a test mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , then my filter works, yours not. And no one knows why!!! It always has a reason. Is that filter set to be active? What about if you TEST your filters on the Sent folder? All my filters worked before! I have nothing changed concerning incoming and outgoing filters. -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.81.06 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! PGP-Key: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x2187626E Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hi Vili, on Thursday, July 6, 2006 at 20:12 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: No. We are testing OUTGOING filters, right? So, put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: field when creating a new mail and send it, and watch if the filter works. It does not work! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.81.06 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! PGP-Key: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x2187626E Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hello Roland, my filters for outgoing mails don't work any more though I have not changed anything. They are all under sent mails. Has there changed anything in TheBat? I cannot confirm... But you can have specific filters. Would you share one of your non-working filter with us? (i.e. copy and paste here). -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hi Vili, on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 at 19:29 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello Roland, my filters for outgoing mails don't work any more though I have not changed anything. They are all under sent mails. Has there changed anything in TheBat? I cannot confirm... But you can have specific filters. Would you share one of your non-working filter with us? (i.e. copy and paste here). TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [22698E70.01C6888F.1CD822CF.14A7AC0D] Name: Sabine\20. Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5Ctlen.pl\5CSent\5CSabine\20. SetColour -997558334 IsActive Ignore endFilter -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.81.05 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! PGP-Key: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0x2187626E pgpy1kjCJwkqz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters for outgoing mails
Hello Roland, The error is in the filter condition, seems that string [EMAIL PROTECTED] is regexp, so condition should be changed from contains to matches -- 9Val Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters and OTFE
Hello all, Monday, December 12, 2005, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Who did experience a trouble that filters and OTFE work in Password mode and don't work with hardware tokens (iKey or eToken)? How can we reproduce this? I have tested it today, I have created filter with two actions - Flag the message and Move message to folder. In regular version, message is flagged an moved to specified folder. In OTFE version (both with passw and token) message is flagged, but is stored in Inbox, not in specified folder. Something is strange, because as You can see, Log says, message is processed by filter and stored to specified folder, even it doesn't. 12.12.2005, 15:15:58: FETCH - received message from xx (1420 bytes) (processed by filter Marek Mikus), URL: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.63.10 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters and OTFE
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Monday evening, Peter wrote something like this: MM Who did experience a trouble that filters and OTFE work in Password mode MM and don't work with hardware tokens (iKey or eToken)? Me. Me to. The .63 serie is completely unusable here. .63.09 does not recognise my database at all and prompts me whether I want to create a new account or import a previously backuped one. .63.08 DOES recognise my database but ALL filters are disfunctional and it needs 5 MINUTES (!) to import 20 messages for tbbeta, all of them are stored in the INBOX afterwards. (See eMail to 9Val, including log snippet.) In addition sent messages remain in the OUBOX and are flagged as UNSENT, even if they had been sent successfully. Fully confirmed. All this with iKey. With eToken Pro. MM How can we reproduce this? I have not the foggiest idea ;) 3.62.14 works like a charme! Not in my TB. I have problems with new message templates in common folders. Don't recognize %To macro. When common folder template have %To specified and all rest is in Address Book in tbbeta contact when I want to create new message all fields must I manually fill. See attachment - commonfoldernew and contactnew. I have also problem with %Charset Macro - didn't work for us-ascii. For example all tbbeta messages I have in common folder with reply template %BLANK. In Address Book I have reply template for tbbeta contact like in attachment. My win is XP sp2 and like you see message is in win1250 not us-ascii. BTW win1250 is not enabled in encoding list in TB config. For example when I change in template ascii to utf-8 everything is fine. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski%ACCOUNT=S.Murawski - Pf.pl%- %FROM=Sebastian Murawski [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %REPLYTO=Sebastian Murawski [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %TO=%TO=TheBat! Beta List tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com%- %LANGUAGE=AM%- %CHARSET=utf-8%- %KeybLayout(PL)%- %QINCLUDE=subject%- Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! %WRAPJUSTIFY %WRAPPED=%QInclude='qo do mnie EN lists' %_quoText=%QInclude(quot)%- %_wrText=%QINCLUDE='q'%QINCLUDE(wr) %Cursor -- Thanks and best regards, %FromNamE %ACCOUNT=S.Murawski - Pf.pl%- %FROM=Sebastian Murawski [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %REPLYTO=Sebastian Murawski [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %TO=%TO=TheBat! Beta List tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com%- %CHARSET=utf-8%- %LANGUAGE=AM%- %KeybLayout(PL)%- Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! %CURSOR -- Thanks and best regards, %FromName %TO=The Bat Beta List tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com %Cursor=Subject Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters and OTFE
Hello Sebastian Murawski everyone else, on 12-Dez-2005 at 20:39 you (Sebastian Murawski) wrote: I have problems with new message templates in common folders. Once more ;-) http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Let the great world spin forever... down the ringing grooves of change. (Alfred Lord Tennyson) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters not working (was Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available)
Hello Marck, Thursday, September 1, 2005, 6:39:42 AM, you wrote: MDP They work neither automatically on mail receipt nor manually. MDP Can anybody confirm this? A pretty serious bug IMO. IMAP or POP? Do you have more specific examples? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.60.07 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters not working (was Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available)
Hello Marck, Okay - let's bring this one up again. I just added an OR condition to an old filter and messages that used to be intercepted by that filter ended up in my spam bucket (unfiltered). Looking deeper, I find that, starting today and since making that change to that one filter of adding the OR condition, 3 other filters with OR conditions suddenly stopped working where they were working perfectly for months. They work neither automatically on mail receipt nor manually. Can anybody confirm this? A pretty serious bug IMO. I know, you are not a rookie, but is not it possible that you dont have Continue processing with other filters checked? So the modified filter catches more mails now, that is the cause of the inactivity of the other filters? -- Vili Current beta is 3.60.07 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters not working
Dear Stuart,
@1-Sep-2005, 07:31 -0500 (01-Sep 13:31 UK time) Stuart Cuddy [SC] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:
MDP They work neither automatically on mail receipt nor manually.
MDP Can anybody confirm this? A pretty serious bug IMO.
SC IMAP or POP?
POP. There's a surprise!
SC Do you have more specific examples?
This was the original filter:
,--/ Basic filter \--
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [E8FB1BD0.01C49013.0BFABDC7.2FFC92E5]
Name: Underscore
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMarck\5CNews\5CFun\5CUnderscore
IsActive
endFilter
`--\ End /--
When I changed it to catch monthly administrative messages like this:
,--/ Modified filter \--
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [E8FB1BD0.01C49013.0BFABDC7.2FFC92E5]
Name: Underscore
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMarck\5CNews\5CFun\5CUnderscore
IsActive
endFilter
`--\ End /--
it stopped working. And so did this one:
,--/ \--
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [22A41840.01C49693.7808A2EA.3F889C99]
Name: PPro
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`7`Reply-to`0`powerpro\0D\0A1`7`Reply-to`0`power-pro\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMarck\5CNews\5CSoftware\5CPower\20Pro
IsActive
endFilter
`--\ End /--
And now this one's come up non-functional too:
,--/ TBList admin message filter \--
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
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Before I made the change to the underscore filter, everything worked
perfectly well. (Except, of course, the message creation filters still
not fixed in BugTraq report
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4933)
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Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user
TB! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
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Re: Filters not working
Dear Vili, @1-Sep-2005, 09:17 -0400 (01-Sep 14:17 UK time) Vili [V] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... snip They work neither automatically on mail receipt nor manually. Can anybody confirm this? A pretty serious bug IMO. V I know, you are not a rookie, but is not it possible that you dont V have Continue processing with other filters checked? Not even slightly. Nothing to do with the problem. The filter I changed was a sub-filter of a group of filters used to pick up list mail from the various lists. It is *not* and never was a continue processing filter and doesn't need to be. V So the modified filter catches more mails now, that is the cause of V the inactivity of the other filters? It's the *changed* filter that fails, not the rest. I'm saying that not only does *it* now fail, but that it has dragged a stack of other filters into the duff pot with it! :(( The other filters do happen to be in the same group. There's probably a clue in there. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpLZZRE0Xkh1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.60.07 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters not working
Dear Stuart, @1-Sep-2005, 08:39 -0500 (01-Sep 14:39 UK time) Stuart Cuddy [SC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP This was the original filter: SC Have you seen Vili's post about continue processing. When I paste SC you filters none of them have continue processing set. (See my reply to Vili). SC Also in you changed filter you have AND sender CONTAINS . Do SC you mean that the sender field is blank or have you removed SC something to protect the innocent. :) I changed nothing. The filter was OR sender CONTAINS @underscore.org.uk. That means the filter was corrupt when repasted. I wonder if this is a symptom of the underlying problem? -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpZmdU20uZ13.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.60.07 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters not working
Dear Stuart,
@1-Sep-2005, 09:29 -0500 (01-Sep 15:29 UK time) Stuart Cuddy [SC] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:
MDP I changed nothing. The filter was OR sender CONTAINS
MDP @underscore.org.uk. That means the filter was corrupt when
MDP repasted. I wonder if this is a symptom of the underlying
MDP problem?
SC I see. I just realized that what I am seeing here is what you get
SC when you initially click the Add Condition button at the bottom,
SC as if you had then copied your filter before you modified it.
Indeed. Very odd that. It's not what showed when I copied it, but it
certainly pasted back in that state.
SC Could you try copying your own filter and then pasting in a
SC different spot to see if it copies correctly.
Done, done and done. Several times over.
SC You could also try sending it here again.
I shan't do that for now, because I've found out that what's causing
it are the 2 catchall filters, which shouldn't really be executed, but
are.
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These 2 filters are within a final news lists group (for opt-in news
lists rather than discussion lists) that start with an Address book
does not contain sender tree-root filter.
Yes, I know they are now inactive. That's deliberate. Once I
deactivate these filters, the ones that were playing up before then
work.
With spam trap enabled:
01/09/2005, 15:35:37: FETCH - Message from swzoh, subject
[power-pro] Re: *Format Contextif - using expressions, size bytes
filtered (processed by Lists, PPro, News lists, SPAM), URL:
msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
With spam trap disabled:
01/09/2005, 15:35:52: FETCH - Message from swzoh, subject
[power-pro] Re: *Format Contextif - using expressions, size bytes
filtered (processed by Lists, PPro, News lists), URL:
msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What it is really about is that the Lists filter had become a
continue processing filter, which it should not have been!
I have now re-enabled the spam trap filters and turned off continue
processing on the Lists filter. I really didn't turn that on. It
became turned on when I made the change I spoke of at the start of
this (kidnapped) thread. I will let you know if that *doesn't* fix the
problem.
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Re: Filters
Hello Thomas, Monday, July 25, 2005, 2:09:00 AM, you wrote: DE Filter 1 catches spam and moves it to a spam folder. DE Filter 2 catches list and moves it to a list folder. DE Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? The one that is topmost, if Continue with other filters is not checked. Yep that is checked. (Don't ask it gets complicated) So the message can get caught by both filters. So I ask again which one should move it when it gets caught by both. ASK IIRC, the message is a fixed object during the filtering stage. If both ASK filters move the message, you should have two copies in the two destination ASK folders (I haven't tried that however). No. The keyword for the filter here is move, not copy. The message is an object in computer-speak, don't know what a fixed object is. Filter 1 moves the object (message) to the spam folder, filter 2 moves it to the list folder. So it ends up in the list folder only, there are no two copies (unless you browse deleted messages, but we won't go into this). He would have two copies has he told the filters to copy instead of move the message. ASK Maybe thats a topic for TBTECH? No, rather for TBUDL. It's not a very technical question, every user has filters like this so it's rather basic, and it's not a beta issue either. I have a filter for friends and one for lists. It is possible for a message to get caught by both. ASK To avoid that, I've set up my filters for mailinglists as subfilters. How complicated. The more straight-forward solution is to *not* check continue processing If you are not sure and get too many false positives, recalibrate your spam filter. The reason that I put it here is because filter activity was changes some time ago, and I was wondering if it had changes again. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 25-Jul-2005 at 03:09 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: ASK IIRC, the message is a fixed object during the filtering stage. If both ASK filters move the message, you should have two copies in the two destination ASK folders (I haven't tried that however). No. The keyword for the filter here is move, not copy. The message is an object in computer-speak, don't know what a fixed object is. Neither do I, therefore the quotation marks. Filter 1 moves the object (message) to the spam folder, filter 2 moves it to the list folder. So it ends up in the list folder only, there are no two copies (unless you browse deleted messages, but we won't go into this). He would have two copies has he told the filters to copy instead of move the message. Ah OK, my mistake, I remembered the old discussion how a message can be moved twice from the inbox to another folder and again to another folder, so a move is not really a move until all filters are done... I mixed it up. ASK To avoid that, I've set up my filters for mailinglists as subfilters. How complicated. The more straight-forward solution is to *not* check continue processing None of my filters continues processing. It was just an example how to avoid Davids problem. The subfilter method is not complicated, on the contrary - the message doesn't have to go thru all the filters (for every mailinglist). If the parent condition isn't met, they're simply skipped. And I can collapse the list of all my mailinglist filters in the sorting office, which leaves a much better overview. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Time is the best teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its students. Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
On 2005-07-24 at 20:32:54 David Elliott wrote: Filter 1 catches spam and moves it to a spam folder. Filter 2 catches list and moves it to a list folder. Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? Normally the first one, unless you check the option Continue processing with other filters, which is off by default. pgpDK5Otisa29.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
Hello David Elliott everyone else, on 24-Jul-2005 at 20:32 you (David Elliott) wrote: Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? The one that comes first in your list of filters, I assume. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday, and I love today. -- William Allen White Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
Hi David, on Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:32:54 +0100GMT (24.07.2005, 20:32 +0200GMT here), you wrote: DE Have I got this wrong, or did it change. DE A message can get caught by a number of filters. DE Filter 1 catches spam and moves it to a spam folder. DE Filter 2 catches list and moves it to a list folder. DE Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? The one that is topmost, if Continue with other filters is not checked. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.51.9 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
Hello Peter and All, Sunday, July 24, 2005, 7:44:21 PM, you wrote: on Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:32:54 +0100GMT (24.07.2005, 20:32 +0200GMT here), you wrote: DE Have I got this wrong, or did it change. DE A message can get caught by a number of filters. DE Filter 1 catches spam and moves it to a spam folder. DE Filter 2 catches list and moves it to a list folder. DE Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? The one that is topmost, if Continue with other filters is not checked. Yep that is checked. (Don't ask it gets complicated) So the message can get caught by both filters. So I ask again which one should move it when it gets caught by both. Other examples. I have a filter for friends and one for lists. It is possible for a message to get caught by both. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
Hello David Elliott everyone else, on 24-Jul-2005 at 21:01 you (David Elliott) wrote: DE Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? The one that is topmost, if Continue with other filters is not checked. Yep that is checked. (Don't ask it gets complicated) So the message can get caught by both filters. So I ask again which one should move it when it gets caught by both. IIRC, the message is a fixed object during the filtering stage. If both filters move the message, you should have two copies in the two destination folders (I haven't tried that however). Maybe thats a topic for TBTECH? I have a filter for friends and one for lists. It is possible for a message to get caught by both. To avoid that, I've set up my filters for mailinglists as subfilters. The parent filter checks if the message is NOT addressed to me with header field to does not contain my email address(es), then the subfilters move the message. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Television? No good can come of this device. The word is half-Greek and half-Latin. -- C. P. Scott Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters
Hello Alexander, On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:19:01 +0200 GMT (25/07/2005, 02:19 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: DE Filter 1 catches spam and moves it to a spam folder. DE Filter 2 catches list and moves it to a list folder. DE Which one should take preference if the message get caught by both ? The one that is topmost, if Continue with other filters is not checked. Yep that is checked. (Don't ask it gets complicated) So the message can get caught by both filters. So I ask again which one should move it when it gets caught by both. ASK IIRC, the message is a fixed object during the filtering stage. If both ASK filters move the message, you should have two copies in the two destination ASK folders (I haven't tried that however). No. The keyword for the filter here is move, not copy. The message is an object in computer-speak, don't know what a fixed object is. Filter 1 moves the object (message) to the spam folder, filter 2 moves it to the list folder. So it ends up in the list folder only, there are no two copies (unless you browse deleted messages, but we won't go into this). He would have two copies has he told the filters to copy instead of move the message. ASK Maybe thats a topic for TBTECH? No, rather for TBUDL. It's not a very technical question, every user has filters like this so it's rather basic, and it's not a beta issue either. I have a filter for friends and one for lists. It is possible for a message to get caught by both. ASK To avoid that, I've set up my filters for mailinglists as subfilters. How complicated. The more straight-forward solution is to *not* check continue processing If you are not sure and get too many false positives, recalibrate your spam filter. -- Cheers, Thomas. Important warning for aircraft pilots: Teeth that have been improperly filled cause problems with altitude or rapid decompressions. The higher pressure under the filling will cause excruciating pain and in rare instances can cause the tooth to explode. An exploding tooth would be distracting. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters on IMAP account
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 at 4:54:45 AM [GMT -0500], Cees wrote: is it just me or do filters (including 'Mark as Junk') not work with an IMAP account? Filters are working here for me. Do you have 'autofiltering' setup in your account 'IMAP Tuning' options? -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.0.9.18 Return System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Break up a relationship - buy a computer!! Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters on IMAP account
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 at 5:32:25 AM [GMT -0500], Cees wrote: Yep... I do. For each filter you setup, there is a tab called 'Folders'. This defines the folders you wish the filter to work on. With POP3, incoming filters will work only with the Inbox. However, with IMAP, filtering may be done server side, so you can assign incoming filters to work on any IMAP folder. If you have no IMAP folder defined for the filter to work with, the filter will not work. Select the Inbox in that Folders list. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.0.9.18 Return System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Never enter a battle of wits unarmed. Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters on IMAP account
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 at 5:38:30 AM [GMT -0500], Allie_M wrote: For each filter you setup, there is a tab called 'Folders'. This defines the folders you wish the filter to work on. With POP3, incoming filters will work only with the Inbox. However, with IMAP, filtering may be done server side, so you can assign incoming filters to work on any IMAP folder. If you have no IMAP folder defined for the filter to work with, the filter will not work. Select the Inbox in that Folders list. When there's a failure to filter, try running the filters manually on the Inbox and see what happens. The POPup dialog should tell you. You may also log what happens. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.0.9.18 Return System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters on IMAP account
Hello Cees, AM Filters are working here for me. AM Do you have 'autofiltering' setup in your account 'IMAP Tuning' options? C a picture tells more then a thousand words I believe... ;) My fault, auto-filtering has no sence without 'When on-line refresh folders every ..' checked. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters - Actions - Redirect - Attachments
Hi Arkady, on Wed, 24 Nov 2004, at 09:50:55 [GMT +0100] Arkady wrote: Checkbox Don not include Attachments in Filters - Actions - Redirect does not work. Redirect action includes attachments anyway. Confirmed - See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=512 -- regards Thomas Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters and Colour Groups: Not working correctly
Hello Dierk Haasis everyone else 02-Nov-2004 19:09, you wrote: Most messages meeting the filter criteria are moved and coloured, sometimes messages are moved but not coloured. Anybody else seeing this? What happens when you manually re-filter the affected messages, does it work then, maybe? I'm (very seldomly) suffering from a glitch where messages are not filtered. Its not colour group related (or rather: I can't say, because I have other actions defined). Manually re-filtering the inbox works, so its not the filter that isn't working, its as if certain messages slip thru the mechanism that triggers the filter for new messages. Or something like that. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
