Re: Filtering an empty field
Hello PFord, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 7:28:20 AM, you wrote: It may be that there is a Sender: header that you can't see, in which case you may have to use a RegEx like P Can there be no sender in the kludges? I get these messages occasionally P that seem to have materialized from nowhere. Here is what a message look like with Ctr-Shift-K activated: --- start message Return-Path: Received: from kenneth (26-d11-1.trd1.netcom.no [212.45.187.27]) by server.doktoronline.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA04577 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:37:02 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:37:02 +0200 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--VE9QFK16BC96ZCDU70L27GH2R8X2F Status: RO end message --- In addition it is an attachment with only letters in the name. Both the Recieved: with name comuter, ip-address and name on the attachement varies each time. I get 5-10 of these every week, and is therefore also interested in automatic filtering of these messages on the principle: no sender, no recipient, containing attachment - direct into the trash. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hello PFord, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 7:25:51 AM, you wrote: Agent will export messages for you in Unix format which you can then import using TB!. P Thanks and to Karin, too. I hope I like Agent more than I used to. I wish that The Bat! could expand to be a newsreader too. It would be very nice with a newsreader with the same editor and template functionality. I participate in both norwegian and english newsgroups, but in Agent I am not able to have different language in greetings to different groups. And I miss the great quoting in TB. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: I need help on filtering HTML email
Hello people, hi i, // See that?! Sunday, April 29, 2001, 1:20:32 AM, you wrote: I have been using a text processing system (..) called frogbit. It is a small specialised script language for automatic text editing, Just like Perl or what? The bat! interface part of all this is out of my league, so I leave it to others. Hmm, it seems to me as if there is only an one way interface in TB. Under Account / Sorting-Office / New you can set up a filter which either saves the mail as a file or passes it (the mail) to an external application (Actions tab). But I still can't find the other way of passing it (altered) back to TB. Is there one or is there not? Any further discussion depends on that point. -- Best regards, Romanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ottar! On Sunday, April 29, 2001 at 10:10:07 AM you wrote: but in Agent I am not able to have different language in greetings to different groups. And I miss the great quoting in TB. why don't you ask them to implement such features in the 2.0 version? After all, Agent will be developed further! - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/12 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Why don't you ever see the headline, Psychic Wins Lottery? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOuvHUfTo1oA8g8dLEQLF/ACfWDOl/bnI8TnEIMbDnR7x0gUSq3QAoLXK 0vPrB7ACxq8nADDlYqTAcmlq =DFQG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ben! On Sunday, April 29, 2001 at 5:13:36 AM you wrote: /snipped entire cigar/ Get off your high horse! Many of us don't make a profession of reading all the posts that come through these lists, and I happen to be one of them! Maybe not all, but *the moderators*. It is there job to give out such comments. And on this list they are very friendly. I don't know if the moderators - since you specifically targeted them - - will answer to you. If you have read the rules of this list you would at least have refrained from your tone, which is way out of line. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/12 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wenn ich mir eine Art Mensch ausdenke, die allen meinen Instinkten zuwiderläuft, so wird immer ein Deutscher daraus. (Friedrich Nietzsche) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOuvI2vTo1oA8g8dLEQIurwCgzMsmp8TLS7oykzx4sLDyZbt0g3EAoLii O3hblVnvi8XrDykYZOZ6B1qA =fzuw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: I need help on filtering HTML email
Saturday, April 28, 2001, 11:31:58 PM, Roman Schechtel wrote: Hello people, hi Lars, Saturday, April 28, 2001, 9:23:42 PM, you wrote: String: multipart/alternative Location: Kludges Presence: Yes Also I would suggest that you add those strings to the Kill filters (or Selective download filters as they are called now in 1.51). Else they don't work so well. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ottar On 29 April 2001 at 10:10:07 +0200 (which was 09:10 where I live) Ottar Grimstad wrote I wish that The Bat! could expand to be a newsreader too. I might be wrong but can't you use x-ray to do this. - -- Bye, ___ David | MUA:- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | * - Tribble. *.* - Binar Tribbles. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG Signed, sealed, delivered. iD8DBQE66+iP+Yrx5mUPRTQRAlw8AJ9W8LQMOM2EMhHXv5Bh3+LqfV3uWACgihU5 ECre+2J+P9Qoxgv7zs4ZnIQ= =ZHsl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Hello all, on Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 03:22:11 local time (GMT +0100), Marck wrote: 3) This TB hole was plugged in 1.52/beta/10 (IIRC). any news when those of us not into betas are going to be safe from this worm ?? -- Rob using The Bat! 1.51 ... Go the extra mile. It makes your boss look like a slacker. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: I need help on filtering HTML email
On 29 April 2001 at 10:34:40GMT +0100 (10:30 for me) Roman Schechtel wrote in I need help on filtering HTML email: RS Hello people, hi i ah, i suppose spaces in names is rather non-standards compliant!! I have been using a text processing system (..) called frogbit. It is a small specialised script language for automatic text editing, RS Just like Perl or what? GREATLY SIMPLIFIED! It was created a few years ago, and doing a google search it has not been updated since. It would be very much under-powered for more complex applications, but I like to use tools appropriate to the job. Having a small runtime is important for me, and I don't know if perl runtime overhead would be larger or not? RS Is there one or is there not? Any further discussion depends on that RS point. I certainly can't see a way, browsing through the menus. Lets hope a guru on the list comes up with a brilliant solution ian -- Ideas pull the trigger, but instinct loads the gun. - Don Marquis Ian Andolina Tel: 0207 608 6841 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: I need help on filtering HTML email
Hi Silviu, On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 13:07:40 +0300 you wrote: SC Also I would suggest that you add those strings to the Kill SC filters (or Selective download filters as they are called now SC in 1.51). Else they don't work so well. That depends on your attitude towards the Selective Download filters. Any rule in there means that TB! must first download the headers, then check for any unwanted messages and then download the whole e-mail (including the headers again). So if you receive 100 messages, the headers will be transferred 2 times, or 200 headers if you want to put it that way. This will take a pretty long time on a slow connection. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rob! On Sunday, April 29, 2001 at 12:22:20 PM you wrote: any news when those of us not into betas are going to be safe from this worm ?? You are ... if you just adhere to e-mail basics. TB! does not execute any attachment automatically. So just don't double-click/execute/open dubious attachments. And - since this weekend ranting seems to be on vogue on-list - anybody opening such a stupid attachment does not deserve better. Same as with the Kournikova worm (ever thought of buying a *Playboy* or *Hustler*?). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/12 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Love is the answer ... (John Lennon) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOuvpL/To1oA8g8dLEQJVigCg4m82MEm8WtqfDLi092b1JFvsfZ4An1U0 WeeQbXkntFjUp2jwXOE6n6fl =b9UZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: I need help on filtering HTML email
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 1:38:17 PM, Lars Geiger wrote: That depends on your attitude towards the Selective Download filters. Any rule in there means that TB! must first download the headers, then check for any unwanted messages and then download the whole e-mail (including the headers again). So if you receive 100 messages, the headers will be transferred 2 times, or 200 headers if you want to put it that way. This will take a pretty long time on a slow connection. For me it's just fine. I only get that much mail once a day if I leave tha mailbox unchecked for a long time (about 8-10 hrs). And it doesn't take more then a few minutes to do all that on a 33.6Kbps connection with a 3.7-4.0Kbps data transfer rate. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Check PGP signature
Hi, I've already post that problem a while but as I got no answer and saw a new faq, here it is again : so on pgp help page i found : To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check PGP signature command from the Tools menu. If the message is signed, PGP automatically checks its signature validity. Note that the message is NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this way each time you read the message. But when I click on check pgp signature, It asks for my passphrase and ... nothing ! So i'd like to know what happens to you, I hoped a window opened with my message decrypted or something like that. thanks for help THeBat 1.51 - PGP 5.5.8ckt - win98 -- Tom -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:43:17 +0200, ad wrote these comments: aen so on pgp help page i found : aen To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check PGP aen signature command from the Tools menu. To decrypt an encrypted message you need to use the decrypt command. Go to the menus and choose Tools/PGP/PGP decrypt. The password prompt should appear. Type in your password and hit enter. The other way to get at the pgp decrypt command is by right clicking on the message and go to Specials/PGP decrypt or simply hit Shift-Ctrl-D. aen If the message is signed, PGP automatically checks its signature aen validity. Yes. aen Note that the message is NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this aen way each time you read the message. When TB! decrypts a message, it creates a decrypted copy and adds it to the message list. The decrypted message is indicated by (PGP decrypted) being appended to the subject header. aen But when I click on check pgp signature, Checking a signature is really checking the signature in my message here. This command isn't what you use to decrypt encrypted messages. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'The man who begins many things finishes few.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuwJ4lfJ62ArBxfiEQJoXQCggThm2F1Uy2iYu/IYiplcKrrsVJUAoMmp WFHNOvR+PedDOiODb5e/xcFs =EoO9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, April 29, 2001, 7:13:02 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: DH You are ... if you just adhere to e-mail basics. TB! does not execute DH any attachment automatically. DH So just don't double-click/execute/open dubious attachments. DH And - since this weekend ranting seems to be on vogue on-list - DH anybody opening such a stupid attachment does not deserve better. Same DH as with the Kournikova worm (ever thought of buying a *Playboy* or DH *Hustler*?). I'm sure that we are all extremely impressed by this witty and knowledgeable response. Your expertise is duly noted here. I personally didn't view Rob's post as a *rant*, but rather as a simple question, to which I would expect a simple and respectful answer. ( I obviously don't have the copious grey matter that you have at your disposal). What I see *on vogue on-list* this weekend are replies better handled by someone with a little less attitude. Aptitude speaks for itself. Truly in awe, Ron. - -- PGP-Key ID: 0x60FBA485 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: Encryption is my right.PGP-6.5.8ckt is my choice ! iQA/AwUBOuwPbJHUc2Bg+6SFEQKHUACff7kOY6fzTSUZcBp4FKDfi1dpKrMAnimo Wd2Ylj/ZLI+3ZEDzkhY9S6Py =UGcE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Check PGP signature
OK, so we agree that the help file is wrong on these two points: aen To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check PGP aen signature command from the Tools menu. aen Note that the message is NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this aen way each time you read the message. But in fact i'd like TB! behaves as it's written because i have to delete each decrypted message twice and that's a bit annoying. -- Tom -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering an empty field
Hello Ottar, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 10:22:20 AM, you wrote: OG I get 5-10 of these every week, and is therefore also interested OG in automatic filtering of these messages on the principle: no OG sender, no recipient, containing attachment - direct into the OG trash. To answer myself. I have fiddled a little around, and it seem that if I make a filter that contains To: not present in kludges From: not present in kludges Content-Type: multipart/mixed present in kludges it identifies these message and moves them to my spam-folder -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Marck, Saturday, April 28, 2001, 7:22:11 PM, you wrote: Ai (http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslist.asp?id=4188key=100013100072 ). Ai /Worm info MDP 1) This was all you needed to post to the list. MDP 2) It was posted last week - did you check the archive? MDP 3) This TB hole was plugged in 1.52/beta/10 (IIRC). MDP /moderator So! Are we all supposed to be running Beta versions now? What the H E double Hockey-Stix? - -- Best regards, George mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *Thawte authorized WOT Notary * ICQ: 122492 * ** Bug off, Banana Nose; Relieve mine eyes Finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBOuwUYTYFY6kvWSqxAQF+IQgAxpn8l0FrIW9JJfdWz5D6ENeUx1LMSXUR 2aOuET/Cg7b8TSFOVor2d2rB1P5YSc8D2TNPDnWM/UVlNjLbk2eIDByIqKJruuag kzLt/mLIZtDpNg9K/AI4GEtrtitPLF3Q0lGA/HD93QmgakiiCiBaemONzkRwgNGb ARfOqkUhKeGizYbgs/ULFAWSDtgbxWlGGkHZUbL5VAMpCqm8r/4sx9RJETU+I2DJ lLPAz7Aa5/ExDERjdubkGZ/xLgXRW/1TQkmSi+dcKjsEfX198TjanwRxP7t5wPxD ZlMoXs1QrzTLtHnh7+60r4fIHB/JZAltT4CytC3jhVdTHTJGn9xcXA== =TQJ5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 06:17:15 -0700, George contributed this to our collective wisdom: MDP 1) This was all you needed to post to the list. MDP 2) It was posted last week - did you check the archive? MDP 3) This TB hole was plugged in 1.52/beta/10 (IIRC). MDP /moderator GFS So! Are we all supposed to be running Beta versions now? What the GFS H E double Hockey-Stix? No. Marck is just saying that the developers know of the problem and have addressed it. The fix will be present in the upcoming new release version (v1.52). ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Oxymoron: Work Party.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuwWUlfJ62ArBxfiEQIjzACgrTDwLeJTsXy4/Fg0wIs3VDTW3BwAoObN OW6zVHUzcEdNJixEmMU7phO2 =g7nG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:03:58 +0200, ad thoughtfully wrote the following: aen Note that the message is NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this aen way each time you read the message. aen But in fact i'd like TB! behaves as it's written because i have to aen delete each decrypted message twice and that's a bit annoying. You lost me there. Would you explain what you meant there. Why do you have to delete each decrypted message twice? ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Any philosophy that can be put in a nutshell belongs there' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuwWTlfJ62ArBxfiEQJfgQCdFpqdjsEg2ZFwXSoEiBIXy3C/sYwAoM8x Y6jYviurqWnAGN6rq3PzJyAr =6848 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
on Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 13:13:02 local time (GMT +0200), Dierk wrote: And - since this weekend ranting seems to be on vogue on-list - ?!?!? hope you have a nice weekend too :-\ -- Rob using The Bat! 1.51 ... After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 4:55:05 AM, you wrote: DH I don't know if the moderators - since you specifically targeted them DH - - will answer to you. If you have read the rules of this list you DH would at least have refrained from your tone, which is way out of DH line. We've all talked about it off-listand unless people wish to make an issue of it; I'd much rather like this dog die quietly. Warmest regards, -- Benmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hello Dierk, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 10:48:18 AM, you wrote: but in Agent I am not able to have different language in greetings to different groups. And I miss the great quoting in TB. DH why don't you ask them to implement such features in the 2.0 version? DH After all, Agent will be developed further! I did, and got an answer from Alexander Leschinsky that this is indeed planned for future versions! :-)) I cannot wait. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ronald! On Sunday, April 29, 2001 at 2:57:19 PM you wrote: I'm sure that we are all extremely impressed by this witty and knowledgeable response. Your expertise is duly noted here. I personally didn't view Rob's post as a *rant*, but rather as a simple question, to which I would expect a simple and respectful answer. ( I obviously don't have the copious grey matter that you have at your disposal). What I see *on vogue on-list* this weekend are replies better handled by someone with a little less attitude. Aptitude speaks for itself. 1. I did include the correct answer to the problem (third line of my response). 2. If I remember correctly Rob did not just ask for a solution but shot against a perfectly correct answer from Marck insultingly. 3. I don't know if I have any grey matter at my disposal ... 4. I am not here to impress anyone, for that I go to my fitness studio. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/12 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics. (Benjamin Disraeli/Mark Twain) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOuwcBfTo1oA8g8dLEQIWMgCbBAZOdE6/xMRKIzdQ/bA2bcM2clcAn0to gDxJeHdRiD5QWY/vIwg1iZuV =YwJN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Hello Ben, On Sunday, April 29, 2001 at 5:13:36 AM you wrote: BM Also, the link is broken so I'm grateful to the BM poster for forwarding the entire article TB! included a closing bracket to much into the link ... so double click the link and remove the last bracket in the address bar or use this link (which is identically to the first, but without any special character at it's side) http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslist.asp?id=4188key=100013100072 -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 (WindowsME) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Problem checking for multi-account mail
Hello TBUDL, I have just installed TB 1.51 and am in the process of evaluating it. Only one problem so far. I started with one account - everything o.k. Then I added another five accounts. I will need six accounts when I switch to TB! I sent test emails to each account. I 'got new email' for each account individually - no problem Then I tried to 'check mail for all' but TB! only checked three accounts. There is no apparent connection between the three accounts (in fact the relate to different domains/hosts). All the accounts' properties are similar. I've repeatedly 'checked mail for all' but only the same three accounts are checked. Can anyone help, please. Apologies for the long post. -- Best regards, William mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
on Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 16:49:34 local time (GMT +0200), Dierk wrote: 2. If I remember correctly Rob did not just ask for a solution but shot against a perfectly correct answer from Marck insultingly. oh ? in that case i would like to know what is so 'insulting' about this ... R any news when those of us not into betas are going to be safe from this R worm ?? ... so i can be more polite next time. believe me ; when i want to be insulting, everybody would notice, not just you ... also, i would probably not do it here. -- Rob using The Bat! 1.51 ... A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
DEAD HORSE (was Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, On 29 April 2001 at 16:49:34 +0200 (which was 15:49 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote to Ronald Clark and made these points: DH 2. If I remember correctly Rob did not just ask for a solution but DH shot against a perfectly correct answer from Marck insultingly. To be fair it was Ben who was rude, not Rob, so that was a bit of an unfair misdirection and Dierk may owe Rob a private apology g. In the mean time, I would say that this thread has run its course. moderator DEAD HORSE - move along please :-). /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuwvGjnkJKuSnc2gEQJviQCdHQzPkZIY1so0d4OzRYnSB7ML+GAAn0FW bABlqspzlIDz9y/MRcBybbCe =dxVa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Worm: What Do I Do?
I had been (until this morning) getting the list in digest form and sometimes didnn't read everything, so I just saw this message about the worm infecting TB! I have received a number of messages in what I presume is Russian (at least they are non-English characters) in the last week or so. I just delete them in the top pane and have not opened any of them, so I don't know if this alone is enough to protect me. I went to the web page which told me about the virus, but it didn't seem to have any specific instructions about how to get rid of it. Questions (and I apologize if they've been dealt with previously--so you can answer directly and not clog the list if you prefer): How do I know if I have it? If I do, will a virus checker like McAfee pick it up? If not, what do I do to get rid of it? Thanks for any help. Mike Greenbaum -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problem checking for multi-account mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi William, On 29 April 2001 at 16:05:08 +0100 (which was 16:05 where I live) William Moore wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: WM I've repeatedly 'checked mail for all' but only the WM same three accounts are checked. WM Can anyone help, please. Apologies for the long post. Do the three missing accounts have the Ignore check all accounts requests checked in the Account properties .. Options page? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuwyTTnkJKuSnc2gEQJq7gCffFx8VPGxuxpn67RFieOIDEvCdqQAoOVx BSUP3UuTftQZFayeRwJQmYgP =Ap30 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Worm: What Do I Do?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, On 29 April 2001 at 08:23:48 -0700 (which was 16:23 where I live) Michael S. Greenbaum wrote to TBUDL and made these points: MSG I just delete them in the top pane and have not opened any of MSG them, so I don't know if this alone is enough to protect me. It is. TB does nothing automatically with attachments. If you double click on an unfamiliar attachment at random then you may well be in trouble, but *only* then. MSG I went to the web page which told me about the virus, but it MSG didn't seem to have any specific instructions about how to get MSG rid of it. If you didn't double click on the attachment then you did not get affected. MSG If I do, will a virus checker like McAfee pick it up? MSG If not, what do I do to get rid of it? You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from www.grisoft.cz. I find it very reliable. The authors are themselves TB users. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuw1uznkJKuSnc2gEQJrSACgiGTaTzuWsNTCQJNqj3QHOSctFqoAoOev gw7pZ+RojS6EIEwlrV6I1VKv =REk5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 10:43:19 AM, you wrote: PP TB! included a closing bracket to much into the link ... so double click the PP link and remove the last bracket in the address bar or use this link (which is PP identically to the first, but without any special character at it's side) http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslist.asp?id=4188key=100013100072 Thanks, Peter. I should have caught that, but I didn't. BTW: The scanning software that operates on my mail servers at home and at my office catch Stator via its extension pif. With the amount of this stuff running loose on the Internet, many of the smaller ISP's are also using software on their servers to delete these sort of attachments. As more virus scanning becomes common at the ISP levelthe authors should be easier to catch, also. Thanks again, -- Benmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 1:22:20 PM, Rob wrote: Hello all, on Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 03:22:11 local time (GMT +0100), Marck wrote: 3) This TB hole was plugged in 1.52/beta/10 (IIRC). any news when those of us not into betas are going to be safe from this worm ?? It seems you, and all the others _are_ safe from the worm as long as we do not open the attachment. Common sense _should_ tell us that we _should not_ open strange mail attachments, or unsolicited mail attachments. Those must be investigated, and generally they get trashed. By investigating I mean, look at the extension, if they include two, or more extensions then they are surely malware and should be trashed right away. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 4:25:38 PM, A Curtis Martin wrote: MDP 1) This was all you needed to post to the list. MDP 2) It was posted last week - did you check the archive? MDP 3) This TB hole was plugged in 1.52/beta/10 (IIRC). MDP /moderator GFS So! Are we all supposed to be running Beta versions now? What the GFS H E double Hockey-Stix? No. Marck is just saying that the developers know of the problem and have addressed it. The fix will be present in the upcoming new release version (v1.52). That still isn't very much OK. They should be able to release patches on such security threats, and not hurry the release of the next version, _if_they rush it. I don't think they do, and they shouldn't, because we want a prime quality mailer. That's why patches are so useful. They buy you time. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Worm: What Do I Do?
On Sunday, April 29, 2001, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from www.grisoft.cz. I find it very reliable. The authors are themselves TB users. Do they have a page in English? My Russian is a bit rusty--actually completely corroded would be more like it. Thanks for the information. Mike -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hello Paula, Saturday, April 28, 2001, 10:02:14 PM, you wrote: I find myself in the same case as you. Being a former user of OE5 for both e-mails newsgroups, I switched to TB! for e-mails and still keep OE5 for newsgroups. I agree with you that it is very convenient to have both functions in the same program. I have been told by Ritlabs that a newsreader will be implemented in version 2 during the course of this year. So I am sticking to OE5 to avoid learning another newsreader. From time to time I import my newsgroup messages into TB!. The inconvenience is that my e-mails are downloaded twice. With OE5 TB! BTW does anyone know if OE5 can be prevented from acting as e-mail program while still being a newsreader? P Hi All, P I recently learned that Microplanet has stopped development work on P Gravity, which I've been using for a long time for news reading. I like P Gravity a lot, but I've been wanting the ability to organize newsgroup P messages into folders, which was promised for the next version. Now, P that it's uncertain whether or not there will ever be a next version and P certainly not for the foreseeable future, I'm thinking about P alternatives. P My basic problem is that I subscribe to both a lot of mailing lists and P a lot of newsgroups dealing with the same subjects related to computing. P I save a lot of messages from both sources for future reference. P Retrieving the information, though, is clunky with having to search both P sources separately and not being able to categorize the newsgroup P messages at all. And, I'm just tired of having information P scattered all over the place. P So, I was thinking that I might switch to using Agent for both P newsgroups and mailing lists, keeping The Bat! for non-mailing list use, P but that would be a kludgy workaround. I'd rather find a way to get my P newsgroups messages into The Bat! So, I was wondering if anyone knows of P a news reader that would let me save out messages in a format that I P could import into The Bat!? Or, is it a totally goofy idea? -- Best regards, jlaikanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Worm: What Do I Do?
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 6:23:48 PM, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: I had been (until this morning) getting the list in digest form and sometimes didnn't read everything, so I just saw this message about the worm infecting TB! I have received a number of messages in what I presume is Russian (at least they are non-English characters) in the last week or so. I just delete them in the top pane and have not opened any of them, so I don't know if this alone is enough to protect me. Yes, you are protected as long as you _do not_ open the attached files they come with (if any). The Bat! doesn't execute/open stuff automatically (thank God!). -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 5:37:01 PM, Ottar Grimstad wrote: I did, and got an answer from Alexander Leschinsky that this is indeed planned for future versions! :-)) I cannot wait. At least you _did_ get an answer. I made some suggestion myself, and I didn't get even an your idea sux reply, I din't get any reply. Maybe I'm just too used to open source code developers, they respond in a max of 3 days or a week, and they don't get paid for they're work (they just like doing it). I do not know, but a little change of attitude from they developers would be nice. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Worm: What Do I Do?
On 29 April 2001 at 17:32:58GMT +0100 (17:27 for me) Michael S. Greenbaum wrote in Worm: What Do I Do?: MSG On Sunday, April 29, 2001, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from www.grisoft.cz. I find it very reliable. The authors are themselves TB users. MSG Do they have a page in English? My Russian is a bit MSG rusty--actually completely corroded would be more like it. http://www.grisoft.com I use it and it is good, lower hardware/memory overhead than the big boys. However, they don't have daily updates. They claim their heuristic analysis is good, I suppose to counter this. ian -- From the moment I picked up your book until the moment I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it. - Groucho Marx Ian Andolina Tel: 0207 608 6841 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Check PGP signature
aen Note that the message is NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this aen way each time you read the message. aen But in fact i'd like TB! behaves as it's written because i have to aen delete each decrypted message twice and that's a bit annoying. ACM You lost me there. Would you explain what you meant there. Why do you have ACM to delete each decrypted message twice? It's just because i don't want to leave decrypted messages in my mailbox. So I delete them in the mailbox and another time in the trash to completely wipe them. -- Tom -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Problem checking for multi-account mail
Hello Marck, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 4:25:01 PM, you wrote: MDP Do the three missing accounts have the Ignore check all accounts MDP requests checked in the Account properties .. Options page? Thanks for the quick response. Grovelling apologies to all. I think I've made the mistake of assuming that I would see a dialogue box for each account as it is being checked. It appears that is not the case as the test messages were received. Sorry again for wasting everyone's time. -- Best regards, Williammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Worm: What Do I Do?
Hello Ian, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 5:44:37 PM, you wrote: IA On 29 April 2001 at 17:32:58GMT +0100 (17:27 for me) Michael S. IA Greenbaum wrote in Worm: What Do I Do?: MSG On Sunday, April 29, 2001, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from www.grisoft.cz. I find it very reliable. The authors are themselves TB users. MSG Do they have a page in English? My Russian is a bit MSG rusty--actually completely corroded would be more like it. IA http://www.grisoft.com IA I use it and it is good, lower hardware/memory overhead than the IA big boys. However, they don't have daily updates. They claim IA their heuristic analysis is good, I suppose to counter this. IA ian Zone Alarm Pro would also have stopped this using its Mailsafe feature - it quarantines attachments if they have one of the defined extensions. This list of extensions (which includes .pif)can be amended by the user. Highly recommended firewall. -- Best regards, Williammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Time Zones???
Hello All, I just wanted to ask about the tagging of time zones in e-mail headers. I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. Is e-mail time measured differently to GMT, or is +0100 a 'tag' for GMT? Thanks for any help. ian -- Consistency is the last resort of the unimaginative. - Oscar Wilde Ian Andolina Tel: 0207 608 6841 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Saturday, April 28, 2001, PFord wrote: I like Gravity a lot, but I've been wanting the ability to organize newsgroup messages into folders, which was promised for the next version. Now, that it's uncertain whether or not there will ever be a next version and certainly not for the foreseeable future, I'm thinking about alternatives. Have you considered using a local server, such as Hamster http://home.knuut.de/tgl/own/hamtools.htm. The page is in German, if you want English, go to http://www.elfden.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hamster/index.html You could use that, and an add-on called MixGroup (never tried it myself), to merge several groups into one before Gravity gets them. -- Urban I may still be on Windows 95 B, but that doesn't stop me from running TB! 1.51 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Apology to Rob
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rob! As Marck pointed out - and I got aware to late - I accused you wrongly of being rude. I sincerely apologize for that! Really sorry. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/12 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C All our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike - - and yet it is the most precious thing we have. (Albert Einstein) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOuw9ZPTo1oA8g8dLEQI+9ACgio5JTpJXi7WsUozFpRokat25ODcAoMfx /kYl7PUzkYMfF3nZpoiuZ/6j =O4yp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Problem checking for multi-account mail
On Sunday, April 29, 2001, 11:52:30 AM, William Moore wrote: I think I've made the mistake of assuming that I would see a dialogue box for each account as it is being checked. Yes, it all happens too fast. If you look quickly at the task bar as you hit alt f2 you'll see all the accounts active. I think you will like TheBat!. I've been using it a couple of months now and grow to like it more and more. This list is also a good place with lots of help, and except for the last couple of days, very little flaming and insult hurling. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hello jlaikan, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 6:31:36 PM, you wrote: j BTW does anyone know if OE5 can be prevented from acting as e-mail j program while still being a newsreader? Yes. If you want you can delete the email account Using Tools Account, or you can change the account properties of the email account so that it does not fetch email messages except when you specificly ask for it. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Ottar, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 13.27.07, you wrote: OG Hello jlaikan, OG Sunday, April 29, 2001, 6:31:36 PM, you wrote: j BTW does anyone know if OE5 can be prevented from acting as e-mail j program while still being a newsreader? OG Yes. If you want you can delete the email account Using Tools OG Account, or you can change the account properties of the email OG account so that it does not fetch email messages except when you OG specificly ask for it. Another way would be to assign your favorite email program to be the default email program in the Internet Properties' Programs section of the Control Panel. Cheers, ~Chris PGP DH/DSS 0x3C3D49B3 PGP RSA 0x535D3933 ICQ 113641590 SecureBAT! 1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 AMD K6-2 400 320MRAM http://sixtygunner.dyn.ca The perfect breakfast...from a man's point of view: Your son is on the cover of your Wheaties Your wife is on the cover of Playboy And your ex-wife is on the back of the milk carton! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 703FW/HF1 iQEVAwUBOuxUf7pIRaxTXTkzAQFQzQf/RNqGRQ8bH6gcTS5NypnrGdhtUC89mmrU 39FCiLXV+cGkWJ05OxCp3zT2SpkRZzWWK/xckTUNQUYSDGPu4qTLjoaUF9xQvO1q KEEurFbY8X6esJiFxaQEwHr09xigUEwlHiCasLWR5qdtNKGrDffYL4qWXy2pV2ea naS0uA4zL+8TWppEHptGjMhuSUPVCPhN4BTIyNOZKgleO3wg8BcbNIFyVxbHdsBa ofgSDC3s4Mb1sYfBmjYtsdpngcb9uLzuDCuk4Nbd5W8xnTb4hHgN7t9ehR7ZNGqW zyhsjASSgOTih/qJ+fwTK29zYRolTDpQsYtiiaZzcuqpySFR5DBNcg== =/JON -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Worm: What Do I Do?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Marck, On Sunday, April 29, 2001 (17:39), you wrote : MDP You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from MDP www.grisoft.cz. I find it very reliable. The authors are MDP themselves TB users. Funny you mentionned that ! I was just about suggesting the same. I too can recommend AVG from Grisoft : excellent. Best Regards, - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIP Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Manager seulement pour le profit revient à jouer au tennis en regardant le tableau des résultats plutôt que la balle. - Ivan Lendl - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-1 (MingW32) Comment: - iD8DBQE67FYopJs5eC6a6t8RAhcwAKDyEwasmkJGuD5C+QI/JXCnrc6/+wCeP4hP qaHKwwr+s7Zu/hOeDlZpjRQ= =Qx/o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear jlaikan, On Sunday, April 29, 2001 (18:31), you wrote : j BTW does anyone know if OE5 can be prevented from acting as e-mail j program while still being a newsreader? Yes. Edit the properties of the shortcut you click to launch Outlook Express, so that you start OE with the following switch /outnews (without the quotes of course). Outlook Express will now advertize itself as Outlook News Reader. It will have NO more mail settings. Not even menu item to add a Mail account. That's funny and pleasant. IMHO, news reading *should not* be added to The Bat !. Best Regards, - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIP Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Vous avez beau tuer le temps, c'est lui qui finira par vous enterrer... - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-1 (MingW32) Comment: - iD8DBQE67Fg/pJs5eC6a6t8RAkWjAJ9kLEVZ6sAJ4mUy1Ftbe+4YQJTamACg1/6o gjdwbuixateAnfWDaRq74/A= =N3NL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Worm: What Do I Do?
Hello Listers, On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 16:39:39 [GMT +0100] (which was 17:39 where I live) Marck wrote: MDP You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from MDP www.grisoft.cz. I find it very reliable. The authors are MDP themselves TB users. Is there an English page? or better.. an Spanish one?? -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Spanish GDUTB Moderator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hello Olivier, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 8:06:49 PM, you wrote: OM IMHO, news reading *should not* be added to The Bat !. Why? -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Ottar, On Sunday, April 29, 2001 (20:18), you wrote : OM IMHO, news reading *should not* be added to The Bat !. OG Why? I agree my statement fall short. Well let's say it is primarily a matter of personal taste. Though, I am first to agree that many nice features of The Bat! would be really pleasant to read and answer news messages. I just think that if it was to be added to The Bat as we know it today, I would pray that this addition do not mess too much with the mail functionnalities. And taking into account the way The Bat seems to try to find its way (adding functionnalities to 1.x version ? fixing bugs on 1.x ? or moving on to a 2.0 ?), I sincerely hope news reading will be part of some 2.5 (read after 2.0, 2.1,...) feature set. Best Regards, - -- Olivier Mascia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIP Group S.A., www.tipgroup.com Nul n'est prophète en son pays, surtout pas les météorologues. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-1 (MingW32) Comment: - iD8DBQE67F/bpJs5eC6a6t8RAqceAJ99dhVjxgGqb/1eSJMVEpQM06fC/gCgxMDP oSz6qZxgo00dFoWBMXrGc1I= =QHnK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Worm: What Do I Do?
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 8:07:18 PM, William Moore wrote: Zone Alarm Pro would also have stopped this using its Mailsafe feature - it quarantines attachments if they have one of the defined extensions. This list of extensions (which includes .pif)can be amended by the user. Highly recommended firewall. Highly recommended and *free*. :) Gotta love it! -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Hello all, on Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 18:04:58 local time (GMT +0300), Silviu wrote: It seems you, and all the others _are_ safe from the worm as long as we do not open the attachment. of course. but accidents do happen ... 1 click too much or too fast and it's over :-( so if there really is a worm/virus out there that specifically targets TB, i would like to have TB patched ASAP !! not just a beta that might give me other problems, as betas do ... ;-) -- Rob using The Bat! 1.51 ... According to my calculations the problem doesn't exist. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:52:33 +0200, ad thoughtfully wrote the following: aen But in fact i'd like TB! behaves as it's written because i have to aen delete each decrypted message twice and that's a bit annoying. ACM You lost me there. Would you explain what you meant there. Why do you have ACM to delete each decrypted message twice? aen It's just because i don't want to leave decrypted messages in my aen mailbox. So I delete them in the mailbox and another time in the trash aen to completely wipe them. Ok. This is why I decrypt with PGP Tray these days. If I wish to reply, I copy stuff from the PGP decryption window. But where is it written that TB! behaves otherwise from what we're experiencing? ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'PC! Politically Correct (or) Pure Crap!' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuxlW1fJ62ArBxfiEQJVBwCdFPSwwRS4+kEQGA2BflGIi2123V4AoNge rbN5JwRIv1CKKa1ipXuqWHTn =F7lw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 29, 2001, at 9:31:36 AM, jlaikan wrote: j BTW does anyone know if OE5 can be prevented from acting as e-mail j program while still being a newsreader? Yes, by simply deleting all POP3 and SMTP Account info for Mail. You can thus turn OE into a Newsreader application only... at least you used to be able to do that... I did... but that was years ago. ;o) - -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.71 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE67Gh0xQKEdHuj/c4RAmbGAKD7rNqnTc5TFxP21v+MnPW7l3IveQCfT9TC kZY3PnP8FcN3KzmknlUI95E= =/Rmz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Help avoiding accidents. Was: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
On Sunday, April 29, 2001, 10:41:34 AM, Rob wrote: R of course. but accidents do happen ... 1 click too much or too fast R and it's over :-( So do I. I appreciate the warnings TB gives now, and would like to have an option to enhance them. For example, would it be possible to give a stronger or more persistent warning if an attachment has a double extension (.gif.exe, for example)? This would give an extra warning to be a bit more careful. I'm sure there are other enhancements that would help, too. Some people want only raw speed. If it is an option, those who wish to avoid the extra popups would not see them if the so wish. STRONG security and privacy are the most important features of TB, in my view, and enhancing them would make it even better. ztrader -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, On 29 April 2001 at 14:02:51 -0500 (which was 20:02 where I live) A Curtis Martin wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBUDL and made these points: aen It's just because i don't want to leave decrypted messages in my aen mailbox. So I delete them in the mailbox and another time in the trash aen to completely wipe them. ACM Ok. This is why I decrypt with PGP Tray these days. If I wish to ACM reply, I copy stuff from the PGP decryption window. It has to be said that the recent suggestion of a Read filter which picks up (pgp decrypted) in the subject of a read message and does a filter action delete does the job beautifully. No double delete needed since a filter action delete never touches the sides on the way down. For me it makes complete and final sense of the plug-in. Mind you, you have to set up a filter for each folder in which decrypted messages might appear, but that's just a quick copy and fudge of the original filter. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Win2K Pro Build 2195 SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuxpfjnkJKuSnc2gEQJddwCcDnJx+W63Wjr3+wTh9BArDM9Y3GwAoMWo U1qJapxhKaL2TiZxWyrwenRZ =sn8/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Check PGP signature
ACM But where is it written that TB! behaves otherwise from what we're ACM experiencing? So here is a copy of a page of TB web site : To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check PGP signature command from the Tools menu. If the message is signed, PGP automatically checks its signature validity. Note that the message is NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this way each time you read the message. Another way is decryption as a message into your message base using Decrypt PGP... command of the Tools menu. Note that in this case your privacy might appear as defenceless because the message is stored in your message base in clear text so anybody else can read it. The second paragraph is OK for me, but TB! don't behaves like first paragraph or i really don't understand it. ( to my opinion, it shoud works like the pgp secure viewer) -- Tom AD. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Ian On 29 April 2001 at 18:08:57 +0100 (which was 18:08 where I live) Ian Andolina wrote I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. So do I but I am in BST i.e. GMT +0100 for daylight saving time. - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David | MUA:- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | * - Tribble ~ - Very drunk Tribble | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOuxqB/mK8eZlD0U0EQKJxQCgnJG5cQk800kyCx5sCfigfhcDkjEAnj0i rITIMZVxBw7SRDiD3Hu0fESd =F2uH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Merci Olivier thank you Ottar Chris, It worked. I have gone to Tools/Accounts/Mail Properties/ and I unchecked Include this account when receiving mail. It was not necessary to delete the accounts. As for newsreading, it would probably be an optional plug in to TB! Sunday, April 29, 2001, 10:06:49 PM, you wrote: OM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- OM Hash: SHA1 OM Dear jlaikan, OM On Sunday, April 29, 2001 (18:31), you wrote : j BTW does anyone know if OE5 can be prevented from acting as e-mail j program while still being a newsreader? OM Yes. OM Edit the properties of the shortcut you click to launch Outlook OM Express, so that you start OE with the following switch /outnews OM (without the quotes of course). OM Outlook Express will now advertize itself as Outlook News Reader. It OM will have NO more mail settings. Not even menu item to add a Mail OM account. That's funny and pleasant. OM IMHO, news reading *should not* be added to The Bat !. -- Best regards, jlaikanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:26:06 +0200, ad wrote these words of wisdom: aen So here is a copy of a page of TB web site : TB! web site? Would you give the URL. I'm curious. aen To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check PGP aen signature command from the Tools menu. If the message is signed, PGP aen automatically checks its signature validity. Note that the message is aen NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this way each time you read the aen message. This isn't what happens in my usage of TB!. Checking the signature of a signed and encrypted message simply checks the signature. It doesn't decrypt the message. aen Another way is decryption as a message into your message base using aen Decrypt PGP... command of the Tools menu. Note that in this case aen your privacy might appear as defenceless because the message is stored aen in your message base in clear text so anybody else can read it. This part is true and goes according to my usage. aen The second paragraph is OK for me, but TB! don't behaves like first aen paragraph or i really don't understand it. aen ( to my opinion, it shoud works like the pgp secure viewer) It seems to be in error to me. Did you extract this information from TB! FAQ pages? ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'George Orwell was an optimist.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuxu+VfJ62ArBxfiEQJV4wCdG7/nTWwEax/PTofctEm3diON1b0AnRmI 2civfw7urp0mT2ARTKUMjlZ8 =mZkn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
AVG (was Worm: What Do I Do?)
I downloaded this AVG program twice, but I cannot find it on my hard drive anywhere. The second time, I carefully watched the download complete and noted the location of the download c:/download. When I went to look for it, it was not there. I did a search using the Windows 98 Find function, putting in avg*.* and nothing came up but a font I have which begins with avg. I'm using a 500 mghz Pentium III PC with a 10 gig hard drive and 256 k of ram. I downloaded a McAfee antivirus update this morning before I found your site, and had no trouble whatsoever. I've written to AVG but since they have no support, I doubt that I'll hear anything from them. Mike Greenbaum -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hail Ottar On 29 April 2001 at 13:28:10 +0200 (which was 12:28 where I live) Ottar Grimstad elétrons rearranjados a começar DE I might be wrong but can't you use x-ray to do this. x-ray? What x-ray? try http://www.xrayapp.com/ - -- Regards, ___ David | MUA:- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | Oxymoron: Amiga friend | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOuxsRfmK8eZlD0U0EQKmAACeJOhzBV5x+3HEtRsBnpjJhNkd+kcAoJHs QkE3Gdepsv3cnMf1qKSN+6M5 =GTrg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Time Zones???
On 29 April 2001 at 20:36:04GMT +0100 (20:22 for me) David Elliott wrote in Time Zones???: I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. DE So do I but I am in BST i.e. GMT +0100 for daylight saving time. OK, thank you. As an aside, does the daylight saving time change at the same point universally, or is there a period of several hours or so where e-mail systems exist in a point of +-1 Hour relativity? ian -- Millitary Intelligence is a contradiction in terms. - Groucho Marx Ian Andolina Tel: 0207 608 6841 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi A, On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 14:02:51 [GMT -0500] (3:02 PM where I live) you wrote the following in regards to Check PGP signature: ACM Ok. This is why I decrypt with PGP Tray these days. If I wish to reply, I ACM copy stuff from the PGP decryption window. I also use PGPtray to decrypt so as *not* to have decrypted messages hanging around. I know when I used to use Pegasus and I decrypted a message it would show the message in a viewer, similar to PGPtray and when the message was closed, it remained encrypted. It didn't produce another *decrypted* message. Just one of the things I would like to see in TB! - -- Regards, Ron Secord Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 Under Windows 98 SE 4.10. A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt [build:05] Comment: Digitally signed for authenticity! iQA/AwUBOuxzNz3g1/Rev158EQLr1wCgqKarp3YATSBZ1qlEUWuVylKm6F4An1PC 0dW0lKWOoUYud0RJX0FvWmh2 =TEdN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
Hello Ian, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 6:08:57 PM, you wrote: IA Hello All, IA I just wanted to ask about the tagging of time zones in e-mail IA headers. I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. Is e-mail time IA measured differently to GMT, or is +0100 a 'tag' for GMT? Thanks for IA any help. IA ian Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of GMT. -- Best regards, Julianmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Check PGP signature
ACM TB! web site? Would you give the URL. I'm curious. you can found it in THe bat help file the_bat.hlp or at the url : http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/pgp.html -- Tom AD. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Time Zones???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Ian On 29 April 2001 at 20:59:48 +0100 (which was 20:59 where I live) Ian Andolina rearranged electrons to get As an aside, does the daylight saving time change at the same point universally, AFAIK No, but I don't know this for sure or is there a period of several hours or so where e-mail systems exist in a point of +-1 Hour relativity? pass - -- BFN, ___ David | MUA:- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | Truly, There is Often Much Truth in Taglines! | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOux5YfmK8eZlD0U0EQJ5bgCg7ftyIubix/MVwpIroNUBKWBo3WAAn2bu ddDscbz57qT455twiv/RB2lE =YSeg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hello David, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 12:10:21 PM, you wrote: I wish that The Bat! could expand to be a newsreader too. DE I might be wrong but can't you use x-ray to do this. I have now visited www.xrayapp.com. This looks like a mail filtering program with no news functionality, but it mentions news by mail servers. Are there any news by mail servers out there? -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:33:04 +0200, Ottar wrote these comments: DE I might be wrong but can't you use x-ray to do this. OG I have now visited www.xrayapp.com. This looks like a mail OG filtering program with no news functionality, but it mentions OG news by mail servers. Are there any news by mail servers out there? Hamster is the freeware app (news and mail server) that will be able to get your newsgroup messages for you so that you could download them from Hamster into TB!. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'A drunk mans' words are a sober mans' thoughts.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOux8dlfJ62ArBxfiEQIAYgCfQ3ZVH/Td/n3+CjjAaamLp2G2pfYAn2DI /OBqRZAdvTOAjiOB9CcqKdND =/yK8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
On April 29, 2001, at 1:10:29 PM, Julian Robbins wrote: JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of JR GMT. Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: AVG (was Worm: What Do I Do?)
On April 29, 2001, at 12:46:50 PM, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: MSG When I went to look for it, it was not there. I did a search using MSG the Windows 98 Find function, putting in avg*.* and nothing came up MSG but a font I have which begins with avg. The actual name of the file is avg6250fu.exe so try a search for that instead. Are you using IE? If so, there should be a download dialogue box where you can tell it where to download the Program to so you can be sure that the Program does in fact end up there. -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Time Zones???
Hello Nick, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 9:32:58 PM, you wrote: NA On April 29, 2001, at 1:10:29 PM, Julian Robbins wrote: JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of JR GMT. NA Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! -- Best regards, Williammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:12:09 +0200, ad wrote these words of wisdom: ACM TB! web site? Would you give the URL. I'm curious. aen you can found it in THe bat help file the_bat.hlp or at the url : aen http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/pgp.html Presently Tools/PGP/Check PGP Signature doesn't decrypt messages for me. Can others confirm this? If so, then Ritlabs need to correct their page information on this. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Best way to dispose of the Borg: Give them Windows 3.1.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuyDQ1fJ62ArBxfiEQKmrACgj2UN+Qv7Misr6Pn8K7KtGuBKa3QAn2HI jXD2zee9xmzipSqdbl88TtiJ =g6cG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:10:27 -0500, A thoughtfully wrote the following: ACM TB! web site? Would you give the URL. I'm curious. aen you can found it in THe bat help file the_bat.hlp or at the url : aen http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/pgp.html ACM Presently Tools/PGP/Check PGP Signature doesn't decrypt messages for me. ACM Can others confirm this? If so, then Ritlabs need to correct their page ACM information on this. I should've added that I checked with the official release version 1.51. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'This is Borg. ESC is futile CTRL is inevitable' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuyEalfJ62ArBxfiEQJ//wCcDUiNplSadfBrDmXO1iqM5aQmYHwAoPlp Y/Q+PuszZvGn/iJleIcENhqf =R2iD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hello A, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 10:41:26 PM, you wrote: ACM Hamster is the freeware app (news and mail server) that will be ACM able to get your newsgroup messages for you so that you could ACM download them from Hamster into TB!. Aha I set up hamster. It collects news via the newsfeed but can communicate with x-ray and x-ray converts it to mail to me. Has anybody tried this? Does it work? Is it worth while? -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi William, On 29 April 2001 at 21:54:48 +0100 (which was 21:54 where I live) William Moore wrote to Nick Andriash and made these points: JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr JR ahead of GMT. NA Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! ROFLMHO! ... and for only four days in that 3 week period! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 [14F4B4B2] on Win2K Pro Build 2195 SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuyQGTnkJKuSnc2gEQIH/QCg8CbAaBKUY4kJM6WvwZdX64PrIpYAoJBk KrfFWy9C4fwDw4MaRKkeagW3 =UTPd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
On April 29, 2001, at 1:54:48 PM, William Moore wrote: WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! Ah, leave it to the British... always have to be different... can't call it DST (Daylight Savings Time). Just like choosing to drive on the wrong side of the road! ;o) He he he -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Sorting folders?
Hello TBUDL, For my old mails I create an elaborate folder structure. When I add a new sub-folder it is placed below existing. Is there a way to sort these folders alphabetically? Morten -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 29, 2001, at 12:43:53 PM, A Curtis Martin wrote: aen To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check aen PGP signature command from the Tools menu. If the message is aen signed, PGP automatically checks its signature validity. Note that aen the message is NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this way each aen time you read the message. ACM This isn't what happens in my usage of TB!. Checking the signature of a ACM signed and encrypted message simply checks the signature. It doesn't ACM decrypt the message. But what TB! does when it checks a signature on a PGP encrypted message is exactly as advertised. The message must first be decrypted to obtain the signature... the verification information is presented in the PGPLog, but the message remains in it's encrypted state. Therefore: To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check PGP signature command from the Tools menu. If the message is signed, PGP automatically checks its signature validity. Note that the message is NOT stored so you need to decrypt it this way each time you read the message. depicts exactly the way TB! behaves when you check the signature on an encrypted message. OTOH, if you use Tools/PGP/PGP Decrypt then TB! will check the signature *and* leave a copy of the decrypted message. Tom's original question was: But when I click on check pgp signature, It asks for my passphrase and ... nothing ! So i'd like to know what happens to you, I hoped a window opened with my message decrypted or something like that. If he wants to do both... check the signature *and* decrypt the message, then he must use Tools/PGP/PGP Decrypt. Choosing only Tools/PGP/PGP Check Signature will do exactly that, but even to do that, PGP must use your Private Key to decrypt the message to get at the signature, which is why it asks for your Passphrase. The reason it didn't leave a decrypted copy as well is because that was not asked for. No? Yes? - -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.71 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE67JauxQKEdHuj/c4RAnJ5AKCejh0JH/pM+y4IxdQBUQg6d6CuVwCfXm3z MZljoMSXMgeq3+lrcoweTPo= =9JkN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting folders?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:28:37 +0200, Topmail wrote these words of wisdom: TM For my old mails I create an elaborate folder structure. When I add a TM new sub-folder it is placed below existing. Is there a way to sort TM these folders alphabetically? Click on the folder column header. A prompt will appear asking you if you wish to resort the folders. This will resort the folders, including sub-folders in alphabetical order. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Dumb luck beats sound planning every time. Trust me.' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuyYVVfJ62ArBxfiEQLaXACfcUUozqYT9sKfkhGDTf+mOKKZ4swAn3pV EfOzTXEbfFKdu8BelvL/907Z =mpNU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: AVG (was Worm: What Do I Do?)
On 29 April 2001 at 20:55:21GMT +0100 (20:46 for me) Michael S. Greenbaum wrote in AVG (was Worm: What Do I Do?): MSG I downloaded this AVG program twice, but I cannot find it on my MSG hard drive anywhere. Hi, when I used to use Netscape Communicator, I would occasionally download files and they too would disappear. A reboot would often correct this, although sometimes it would occur again. I now use Opera V5.11 as my main web browser. Once you adapt to the user interface, it is truly wonderful, very fast, and downloading always works (it also allows you to resume without any spyware features that Netscape built into smartdownload...) ian -- I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them. - George Bush Ian Andolina mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:33:24 -0700, Nick graced us with these comments: NA But what TB! does when it checks a signature on a PGP encrypted NA message is exactly as advertised. The message must first be decrypted NA to obtain the signature... the verification information is presented NA in the PGPLog, but the message remains in it's encrypted state. NA Therefore: NA To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check PGP NA signature command from the Tools menu. If the message is signed, PGP NA automatically checks its signature validity. Note that the message is NOT NA stored so you need to decrypt it this way each time you read the NA message. NA depicts exactly the way TB! behaves when you check the signature on an NA encrypted message. OTOH, if you use Tools/PGP/PGP Decrypt then TB! will NA check the signature *and* leave a copy of the decrypted message. I see what you're saying but what is written on the web page is still misleading. If a TB! user says that he/she wishes to decrypt a message, what do you think they mean, and what would you tell them to do? I'd tell them to use the PGP decrypt command and explain how it works, assuming that they wish to decrypt *and* read the message. If they ask how to verify a signature, I'd tell them to use the check PGP signature command and add that the command works with encrypted and signed messages as well. However, for encrypted messages an unencrypted copy isn't created in order to simply verify the signature. I don't quite know if someone would wish to only verify the signature of an encrypted message and not decrypt and read it as well. This is why PGP so clearly makes their command, decrypt and verify. There's no verification only command. ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Instant gratification takes too long. - Carrie Fisher' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuybHlfJ62ArBxfiEQKqbQCg3iPSE9D8gbhaUboX6l7tKPkNh/UAoMxH WooXFKQ363ToCNWPKDqm6369 =VckG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Time Zones???
Hello Listers, On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 20:59:48 [GMT +0100] (which was 21:59 where I live) Ian wrote: IA OK, thank you. As an aside, does the daylight saving time change IA at the same point universally, or is there a period of several hours IA or so where e-mail systems exist in a point of +-1 Hour relativity? It changes a week before in the European Union -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Spanish GDUTB Moderator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 29, 2001, at 3:52:14 PM, A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM If they ask how to verify a signature, I'd tell them to use the ACM check PGP signature command and add that the command works with ACM encrypted and signed messages as well. However, for encrypted ACM messages an unencrypted copy isn't created in order to simply verify ACM the signature. I don't quite know if someone would wish to only ACM verify the signature of an encrypted message and not decrypt and read ACM it as well. ACM This is why PGP so clearly makes their command, decrypt and verify. ACM There's no verification only command. But Tom was choosing Check PGP signature... and couldn't understand why he was asked for his passphrase and nothing else happened. It was because he never asked for the message to be decrypted... only the signature to be checked, which is what the Plugin happily performed. Now, he was asked for his passphrase because the message *had* to be decrypted before the signature could be checked, and the passphrase is required for that function because his Private Key is used to decrypt the message. Granted, there are not many situations that would warrant a signature check on an encrypted message... and not want the decrypted message presented in some form. ;o) - -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.71 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE67J3lxQKEdHuj/c4RAnHnAKCHqMzjbSlCkSe4qF92Us1Er7VKHgCeIEH2 hAP3QN69k6KHDlx3hgF3RpE= =9dNN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:04:09 -0700, Nick graced us with these comments: NA But Tom was choosing Check PGP signature... and couldn't understand NA why he was asked for his passphrase and nothing else happened. It was NA because he never asked for the message to be decrypted... only the NA signature to be checked, which is what the Plugin happily performed. NA Now, he was asked for his passphrase because the message *had* to be NA decrypted before the signature could be checked, and the passphrase is NA required for that function because his Private Key is used to decrypt NA the message. So you don't have a problem with the instruction: To decrypt an encrypted e-mail message from The Bat!, use Check PGP signature command from the Tools menu. Alrighty then. :-) ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Careful. We don't want to learn from this. -- Calvin' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuyjnFfJ62ArBxfiEQICkgCg7YwjhPQ3neiunIn99n17eQza/oUAn1Vy 4FexoRuQoYAfV2cNGJy5Wmn9 =KQ5K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
On Sunday, April 29, 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: That still isn't very much OK. They should be able to release patches on such security threats, and not hurry the release of the next version, _if_they rush it. I don't think they do, and they shouldn't, because we want a prime quality mailer. That's why patches are so useful. They buy you time. These little version steps are pretty much patches - minor fixed and enhancements. The next real, new version of TB will 2.0 and, trust me, they aren't rushing it. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.46c (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 29, 2001, at 4:28:28 PM, A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM So you don't have a problem with the instruction: :o) Sure I do, but strictly speaking, TB! is doing exactly what it was instructed to do. I agree... of course... the instructions need to be changed to better reflect how those two operations are performed: Check PGP Signature and PGP Decrypt. OTOH, there are other aspects of TB!'s documentation... documentation that relates directly to TB!... that require re-working. PGP's functions are better explained in it's own documentation. - -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.71 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE67KlGxQKEdHuj/c4RAt8gAKCA5UuvubO8U+V1N/H3DxUhYEIPKgCgm2R3 latjHCpWTynHiOh+EwqUN8U= =ZbuN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, On 29 April 2001 at 15:12:43 -0700 (which was 23:12 where I live) Nick Andriash wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! NA Ah, leave it to the British... always have to be different... NA can't call it DST (Daylight Savings Time). Just like choosing to NA drive on the wrong side of the road! ;o) He he he Actually, it was the famous British Humour. BST Lasts from spring to fall equinox same as standard DST. William was referring to how little actual summer we get out the deal. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 [14F4B4B2] on Win2K Pro Build 2195 SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuyVyTnkJKuSnc2gEQJBZQCfQ1i2EJ8y9yLoOmJazkfcaWdhn+0An2kn 4CeF43lAaOsvP7f+qTsSAXmV =OsmL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB! v1.51 - beta rar install
Hello TBUDListers. OK I give up. I wanted to upgrade to v1.52 /beta12 have downloaded the rar file it but cannot install it. Winzip tells me it's an incomplete file. Maybe I should be using a different program to install the rar format. If so, can you direct me to such a program? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.51/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install
Jan, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 19.45.36, you wrote: JR Hello TBUDListers. JROK I give up. I wanted to upgrade to v1.52 /beta12 have JRdownloaded the rar file it but cannot install it. Winzip tells me JRit's an incomplete file. Maybe I should be using a different JRprogram to install the rar format. If so, can you direct me to JRsuch a program? TIA Try http://www.rarsoft.com/... Cheers, ~Chris PGP DH/DSS 0x3C3D49B3 PGP RSA 0x535D3933 ICQ 113641590 SecureBAT! 1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 AMD K6-2 400 320MRAM http://sixtygunner.dyn.ca You know you are addicted to the Internet when... You find yourself typing com after every period when using a word processor.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 29, 2001, at 4:45:36 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR OK I give up. I wanted to upgrade to v1.52 /beta12 have JR downloaded the rar file it but cannot install it. Jan, just out of curiosity, what do you mean cannot install it.? The RAR Archive will only contain the executable file... which is copied directly to your existing TB! Folder, and allowed to overwrite the EXE file that is already there. Later on in your message though, you state that WinZip claims it's an incomplete file. Have you tried downloading it again, but this time use WinRAR to extract the file? Shouldn't make a difference though, as long as your copy of WinZip can handle RAR extensions. - -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.71 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE67LjNxQKEdHuj/c4RAgWSAJ9t5bgIGJrh8UlbE4XqGqhms+CxvACg+7U9 hYkPP+9Jp2BtdVlqoUjjBjU= =WMi0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hi Dierk Haasis, On the Sunday, April 29, 2001, U wrote: DH Hello Ottar! DH On Sunday, April 29, 2001 at 10:10:07 AM you wrote: but in Agent I am not able to have different language in greetings to different groups. And I miss the great quoting in TB. DH why don't you ask them to implement such features in the 2.0 version? DH After all, Agent will be developed further! Unlike my current favorite Gravity ;( And me too sent few suggestions, but got no reply's... -- Till the next time, all the best... ANT-ilic -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hi Olivier Mascia, On the Sunday, April 29, 2001, U wrote: OM Dear Ottar, OM On Sunday, April 29, 2001 (20:18), you wrote : OM IMHO, news reading *should not* be added to The Bat !. OG Why? OM I agree my statement fall short. Well let's say it is primarily a OM matter of personal taste. Though, I am first to agree that many nice OM features of The Bat! would be really pleasant to read and answer news OM messages. A lot of features from TB! I'd like to see in a news clients... OM I just think that if it was to be added to The Bat as we know it OM today, I would pray that this addition do not mess too much with the OM mail functionnalities. And taking into account the way The Bat seems OM to try to find its way (adding functionnalities to 1.x version ? OM fixing bugs on 1.x ? or moving on to a 2.0 ?), I sincerely hope news OM reading will be part of some 2.5 (read after 2.0, 2.1,...) feature OM set. As I understood news will be implemented as a plug-in and as such, optional... I just hope that plug-in part will have enough power, so that some useful stuff can be added... -- Till the next time, all the best... ANT-ilic -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Hi Ben Mills, On the Sunday, April 29, 2001, U wrote: BM BTW: The scanning software that operates on my mail servers at home BM and at my office catch Stator via its extension pif. I don't execute pif's at all... I don't think anybody will send me a usefull link to a file on my comp... Is it possible to set TB not to execute attachment at all? I mean not to ask even... BM With the amount of this stuff running loose on the Internet, many of BM the smaller ISP's are also using software on their servers to delete BM these sort of attachments. As more virus scanning becomes common at BM the ISP levelthe authors should be easier to catch, also. Yes... My ISP also fixed a few infected files and gave me a warning about a virus... But its possible that their software is not up-to-date... -- Till the next time, all the best... ANT-ilic -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Hi Marck D. Pearlstone, On the Sunday, April 29, 2001, U wrote: Ai For more technical details, visit the Kaspersky Virus Encyclopedia Ai (http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslist.asp?id=4188key=100013100072). Ai /Worm info MDP 1) This was all you needed to post to the list. OK... Sorry... MDP 2) It was posted last week - did you check the archive? I must of missed it... MDP 3) This TB hole was plugged in 1.52/beta/10 (IIRC). MDP /moderator I don't use beta's... -- Till the next time, all the best... ANT-ilic -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
