Re: checking mail: bug?

[ETM]

It happens to me as a "dialogue block" only when my cable's mail
server isn't properly handling mail.  I usually cancel out the
dialogue.  The next timed connection often goes through.  I tend
to think of it as one of those mysterious dialogue blocks
(similar to MS's OE messages) that broadly describe a possible
problem, in this case, my own mail server.

Elaine

Hello Luc

On Friday, March 29, 2002, you wrote

> Hi list,

>   all of a sudden, when checking my mail the connection centre asks
>   for one of my accounts a username and password.

>   Never happened before. Any clues?



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Re: The return of the zombies

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Dwight A Corrin,

On Friday, March 29 2002 at 08:04 PM PDT, you wrote:

> I wonder if it's time to have a separate list for carping about the
> known filter.

I wouldn't be so quick to call it "carping". As you mentioned there are a
lot of Users who question what it is and what value it has. The sheer
number of Users asking should give RITLabs cause to revisit the feature.

> And if you don't like the menu navigator button, don't use it.

It isn't the function that people complain about, rather the location, and
justifiably so. 

> Just needed to vent I guess.

I hear you... and understand it... but I wonder if it's not RITLabs we
should be directing it to. ;o)


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Re: The return of the zombies

[Joseph N.]

Veddy interhesting  I deleted my Inbox-Known from one of my
accounts without deleting the filter, and it hasn't resurfaced.  Well,
not that I know about, anyway, although there have been several
mysterious depressions in the freshly made bed.

I keep thinking of leaving TB!, either because the world is tailoring
itself to Outlook or because I'm pathologically unable to stay with
something for too long.  But I keep sticking with it because, even
with its deficiencies, it's the best mailer out there.

In any event, reading a message with the word "thrice" made my day.

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 Karin Spaink wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

> After having upgraded to 1.60, I deleted the inbox-known.
> After Haico explained on the list how to delete the filter
> (Shift-Delete), I did so too.

> Currently I am witnessing the return of the Inbox-Known
> mailbox and filter _again_. I have deleted both trice by
> now. Yet, they insist on returning after I have closed and
> re-opened TB a few times. They do not always return
> immediately after closing and re-opening, but in the end
> they do. They are like zombies, resurrecting themselves from
> the dead after having been killed more than once.

> I admit defeat. Worse, after having used TB happily for a
> year and a half and advocating it to all my friends, I am
> now reconsidering. I do not want programs that decide which
> mailboxes I should have and then disallow me my own choices.
> Make it an option but do NOT create mailboxes for me against
> my will, and especially not when I have deleted them already.

> Shit like this made me leave Eudora. Shit like this will
> make me leave TB, too.


> - K -



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checking mail: bug?

[Luc]

Hi list,

  all of a sudden, when checking my mail the connection centre asks
  for one of my accounts a username and password.

  Never happened before. Any clues?

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Re: The return of the zombies

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Friday, March 29, 2002, 6:28:19 PM, you wrote:

> Currently I am witnessing the return of the Inbox-Known mailbox and
> filter _again_.

I wonder if it's time to have a separate list for carping about the
known filter. I'm beginning to feel like I'm reading the same message
over and over and over again. I guess the real capper is the ones
where someone writes, I deleted, the known folder, it broke TB, so I
reinstalled, deleted it again, and it broke again.

And if you don't like the menu navigator button, don't use it.

I got lots of good help here when I first started using TB! and I
still learn things once in a while, but I'd be able to lighten up if
some others would lighten up.

Just needed to vent I guess.

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Re: The return of the zombies

[Gene Gough]

If you didn't pound a wooden stake through the heart they will not
die.  :-)



Friday, March 29, 2002, 7:28:19 PM, Karin wrote:

> They are like zombies, resurrecting themselves from
> the dead after having been killed more than once.




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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Dave in Phoenix AZ,

On Friday, March 29 2002 at 02:07 AM PDT, you wrote:

> >In that case, don't highlight any text and hit F4. 
> 
> If I do that, the entire text gets quoted (if I have template set up so it
> will work with F4).

Then the problem exists with your Template. You must not have:

%WRAPPED="%Quotes"

in your Template, otherwise with no text highlighted you would get an
empty reply with only your greeting and signature present.



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deletion of messages during mail sync

[Charter]

Hi,

   I have been syncronizing messages using the sync tool.  However, I
   would like to have the synchronize operation delete message on the
   second computer which have been removed from the first.  It seems
   the sync process is only additive.

   Without this, the sync tool does not provide much use and I have to
   backup and restore which can be a pain since my mail files are
   huge.

   I tried looking online and in the docs, but could not find anything
   while would enable this mode of sync.



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Re: Smart Bat rules!

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 30-3-2002 @ 15:40:03 GMT-0800 (which was 0:40
where I live) Roberto Machorro wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Smart Bat rules!":


RM> There are much more things you can do with just a plain text editor
RM> with a search function ;) like SmartBat. And I know I'll find out
RM> more and so will you!

 Can't wait to find out ;-)

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Re: Parsing online form data

[Joseph N.]

I hope someone will tell you that TB! can do what you want.  But if
not, and you're still scrounging for a way to do it, I believe it can
be done with a combination of MS Outlook and Zoot
(www.zootsoftware.com) .  There's a Yahoo Groups "ZootForum" which
might be able to help you, if it comes to that.

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 Jon Lawrance wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

> Is it possible to use The Bat to take the results of an online form and
> somehow create a text file?

> I get an email similar to the following:

> Name: Joe Bloggs
> City: New York
> Product: ICC
> Amount $97

> I would like to build a text file which appends each new order as they come
> in.

> Is this possible?



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The return of the zombies

[Karin Spaink]

After having upgraded to 1.60, I deleted the inbox-known.
After Haico explained on the list how to delete the filter
(Shift-Delete), I did so too.

Currently I am witnessing the return of the Inbox-Known
mailbox and filter _again_. I have deleted both trice by
now. Yet, they insist on returning after I have closed and
re-opened TB a few times. They do not always return
immediately after closing and re-opening, but in the end
they do. They are like zombies, resurrecting themselves from
the dead after having been killed more than once.

I admit defeat. Worse, after having used TB happily for a
year and a half and advocating it to all my friends, I am
now reconsidering. I do not want programs that decide which
mailboxes I should have and then disallow me my own choices.
Make it an option but do NOT create mailboxes for me against
my will, and especially not when I have deleted them already.

Shit like this made me leave Eudora. Shit like this will
make me leave TB, too.


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Re[2]: Smart Bat rules!

[Roberto Machorro]

Hi all!

I very often find myself in need of:

- Replying to several people similar ideas/stuff
So in SmartBat I copy/paste their names and ideas and hints of
what I want to tell them, then when I'm done checking all e-mail I
come back and reply. My previous solution was to open a New Message
and stick in some ideas in the edition box, soon I would have 5-12
emails, I'd come back to them and answer the question.

- Thread un-friendly lists
I don't know if people have noticed, but there are lots of
thread un-friendly lists out-there, not that it's the majordomo or
whatever software they are using's fault. But the people's fault. So
sometimes keeping a scratch-pad with notes helps you keep yourself on
top of things. I'm currently in about 27 lists, some low-volume, some
high volume.

- Organizing ideas with several people
I participate in several open-source (whoops! I mean GPLed :)
projects, upon a heavy discussion where several ideas an criticisms
where thrown in I would take out notepad and put in ideas. Storing
them with the date as the filename. SmartBat puts it all in a single
easy to access area and you can skip between the dates using the
calendar thingy.

- Pre-create e-mails
Sometimes it's easier to sketch e-mails through the day (as
ideas are coming to you) and then just sending them off when desired.
The Message postponing, Notes combo was OK though, but I like it this
way better, my whole reasoning is there at a glance.

There are much more things you can do with just a plain text editor
with a search function ;) like SmartBat. And I know I'll find out
more and so will you!



Roberto



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RM>> - Mail organizer (got gazillion e-mails)
L> Mail organiser? how so?


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Re: Smart Bat rules!

[Joseph N.]

 Roberto Machorro wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

> - Mail organizer (got gazillion e-mails)

How do you use it as a mail organizer?



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Re: Smart Bat rules!

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 29-3-2002 @ 12:47:39 GMT-0800 (which was 21:47
where I live) Roberto Machorro wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Smart Bat rules!":


RM> Well, all I can say is that it rules! After using it for a few days,
RM> I've used for a whole bunch of things (funny how simple ideas con go
RM> so far!), here are some of the uses I've given it:

RM> - Mail organizer (got gazillion e-mails)
Mail organiser? how so?

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Re: Local time

[Joseph N.]

Sorry folks.  This got sent here courtesy of an unrestrained
auto-complete.

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 Joseph N. wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

> Can Mailbag Assistant pick up local time from the Windows Regional
> Settings?  It seems unnecessary to have to re-adjust whenever the time
> changes or there's a new installation?



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Re: Version 1.60c

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 29-3-2002 @ 17:10:46 GMT-0500 (which was 23:10
where I live) Allie C Martin wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Version 1.60c":

ACM> What happened to you was very unusual. We can only tell you what
ACM> *should* happen. I've only had to reregister TB! once and this was
ACM> when I installed it on my new machine. Installing 1.60c on top of 1.60
ACM> doesn't lead to having to reregister.

 I know Allie, i was baffled also. First i thought it was some
 installing problem and reinstalled 1.53d again and then on top 1.60.
 Same result, so i ended up with doing it manually.

 TB! works in mysterious ways i guess ;-)

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Re: Myrealbox (slightly off topic)

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Greetings Ottar,

On Friday, March 29, 2002, 1:39:03 PM, you wrote:

Ottar>   I have used myrealbox (www.myrealbox.com) as my account for reading
Ottar>   and posting to The Bat user lists. I was made aware of its existence
Ottar>   on this mailing lists. It is a completely free mail service
Ottar>   including a smtp-server. Really nice for people accessing the net
Ottar>   from different places and different providers.

Ottar>   I have however not been able to connect to them since march 24.th. There
Ottar>   have been some instability lasting a day or maximum two before as
Ottar>   well, bur never so long as this. I have given them up, lost 5 days
Ottar>   of The Bat discussions and reregistered from another address.

I, first, would look to see if it is perhaps a problem with your setup or
ISP. I use myrealbox for reading and posting to numerous lists and have only
found myrealbox to be down for two days last November. It wasn't until a few
days later that I found a scheduled maintenance e-mail, from those at
myrealbox, that predated the outage. Don't know how I missed it but I did.

Anyway ...

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Re: Myrealbox (slightly off topic)

[William Moore]

Hello Ottar

Thank you for your email dated Friday, March 29, 2002, 6:39:03 PM, in which you wrote:

OG>   I have however not been able to connect to them since march 24.th.
No problem accessing my (three) mailboxes.
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Re: Version 1.60c

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RM>> Just download and install. That simple :)

L> Not when i downloaded and installed 1.60, hence my question
L> regarding the registration (had to do it manually).

What happened to you was very unusual. We can only tell you what
*should* happen. I've only had to reregister TB! once and this was
when I installed it on my new machine. Installing 1.60c on top of 1.60
doesn't lead to having to reregister.

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Re: newsgroups

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>> If you're really interested in doing what you want to and spend some
>> cash in doing so then have a look at 'Mailtraq':
>> http://www.fastraq.co.uk/

JP> Do you happen to know if MailTraq can handle multiple isp accounts
JP> - couldn't figure this one out!

Sure. This is a basic ability of MailServers.

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Re[2]: newsgroups

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello John,

> Do you happen to know if MailTraq can handle multiple isp accounts - couldn't
> figure this one out!

I'm only using MailTraq for newsgroups for the moment, but I have seen
that it can collect e-mail from multiple POP3 accounts. For sending I
guess you would have to use the SMTP server of the ISP you connect to.

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Re: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Joseph,
On Friday, March 29, 2002 at 14:45:21 [GMT -0600], you wrote:

JN> Glad to see people using the lizard

I feel this is drifting off topic, I just wanted to add that I mainly
use Mozilla to find out if I can recommend it as an alternative MUA, for
all the people who find TB overkill for their needs or are unwilling to
pay for an e-mail programme ("Outlook Express fits my needs perfectly",
this kind of people ;-), although I was one of them someday, but let's
not talk about the dark ages).

But what I see with Mozilla (both Browser and MUA) certainly looks
promising. Perhaps it will someday be able to replace Opera on my
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Re[3]: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Roberto Machorro]

I use Mozilla, too. MAPI call to TB! works great in 0.9.9.


Roberto


Friday, March 29, 2002, 12:45:21 PM, you wrote:
JN>  Lars Geiger wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

>> I tried it with Mozilla 0.9.9

JN> Glad to see people using the lizard


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Smart Bat rules!

[Roberto Machorro]

Hi to all!

Earlier in time I wrote asking what SmartBat was supposed to be. "A
notepad with search functionality" was the common reply for my e-mail
and for those that asked a similar question afterwards.

Well, all I can say is that it rules! After using it for a few days,
I've used for a whole bunch of things (funny how simple ideas con go
so far!), here are some of the uses I've given it:

- Multiple text clipboard
- Scratch-pad
- Simple TODO / day organizer (if I could sync this thing with my Palm
easily I'd be ecstatic!), Palm Desktop chaps my ...
- Thought organizer at the touch of an F6
- Mail organizer (got gazillion e-mails)
- Post-it (TM) substitute
- Calls and reminders
- ...

I have assigned a system hot-key for it and now I have it available
from any app!

One question though is how often is the text saved? I type the CTRL-S
sequence every time I type new stuff in, but might be wasting my
energy.


Roberto


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Local time

[Joseph N.]

Can Mailbag Assistant pick up local time from the Windows Regional
Settings?  It seems unnecessary to have to re-adjust whenever the time
changes or there's a new installation?

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Re[2]: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Joseph N.]

 Lars Geiger wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

> I tried it with Mozilla 0.9.9

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Re: Version 1.60c

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 29-3-2002 @ 12:23:12 GMT-0800 (which was 21:23
where I live) Roberto Machorro wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Version 1.60c":

RM> Just download and install. That simple :)

 Not when i downloaded and installed 1.60, hence my question regarding
 the registration (had to do it manually).

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Re: TB does not download messages sent to my Yahoo! address.

[Shahar]

Hello Jernej

On Friday, March 29, 2002, at 10:19:35 PM, Jernej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to 
Shahar about:
TB does not download messages sent to my Yahoo! address.

> Didn't Yahoo close it's POP3/SMTP access recently?


Jernej,
Not yes. Thy will close it on Apr 24th.
http://ordering.yahoo.com/or/ypm/splash?855&Pkgs=us:ym:pop&.osig=zQwKT


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Re[2]: Who sends out the registration info?

[Roberto Machorro]

Hi

I usually have a place close to the Trash/Spam folder for e-mails that
criticize my templates, this case was an exception ;)  I agree and
have pushed down my signature in all my reply templates. Another good
tip is having the standard -- above the signature (like you do).


Roberto


Thursday, March 28, 2002, 5:52:04 PM, you wrote:
DAC> On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 6:46:48 PM, Roberto Machorro wrote:

>> Try creating (and using) a common folder for all your registrations
>> (use menu option: Folder + New Common Folder...).

DAC> I like your suggestion, but I don't like your reply template. Putting
DAC> the quoted message below the signature delimiter makes it very hard to
DAC> read in the rtv with the small light grey font. It also would make it
DAC> very difficult if one wanted to provide context more than one layer
DAC> away since it all gets cut off when replying.




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Re: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Jernej,
On Friday, March 29, 2002 at 19:14:34 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

JS> IIRC, OE automatically created a link () if you typed www
JS> or e-mail address, even in HTML mode.

Maybe. My OE days are far behind me now and memory is fading. I tried it
with Mozilla 0.9.9 and it definitely creates a  from an
address in HTML mode (had to switch it on for that test *sigh*).

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Re: newsgroups

[John Phillips]

Hello Allie
You wrote  On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, at 06:53:12 [GMT -0500] (22:53 Friday where I live):-

> If you're really interested in doing what you want to and spend some
> cash in doing so then have a look at 'Mailtraq':
> http://www.fastraq.co.uk/

Do you happen to know if MailTraq can handle multiple isp accounts - couldn't
figure this one out!

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Re: Version 1.60c

[Roberto Machorro]

Just download and install. That simple :)


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Friday, March 29, 2002, 12:21:45 PM, you wrote:
L> Hi list,

L>   Has anybody encountered problems with 1.60c yet? And can the
L>   registration used for 1.60 be used?


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Re: TB does not download messages sent to my Yahoo! address.

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello jlaikan,
 
29. marec 2002, 19:48:25, you wrote:

j> Although I can view my messages when connected to the Yahoo! mail site, TB does not 
download them? Is this due to settings of TB or my Yahoo! e-mail address?
j> Thanks for any answer. 

Didn't Yahoo close it's POP3/SMTP access recently?

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Version 1.60c

[Luc]

Hi list,

  Has anybody encountered problems with 1.60c yet? And can the
  registration used for 1.60 be used?

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Re: Print in main window loses focus

[Vincent - D. Ertner]

Hi Co-Batties,

[29.03.2002]

> I knew I wasn't completely crazy. That happened to me today and
> I couldn't figure out what happened. Had to close and re-open.

Usually it works for me to click on another entry - this seems to
"reestablish" the focus ... hopefuly this annoying thingy will be
repaired one fine day ...

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Re: Parsing online form data

[Allie C Martin]

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In a message dated, Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:13:14 -, Jon Lawrance [JL]
wrote:
...
JL> I get an email similar to the following:

JL> Name: Joe Bloggs
JL> City: New York
JL> Product: ICC
JL> Amount $97

JL> I would like to build a text file which appends each new order as
JL> they come in.

JL> Is this possible?

It would appear so. Note that I built this regex macro based on your
example above. Normally we discuss complex things such as regular
expressions and their use on TBTECH but I'll still explain this since
it has to do with filtering.

Create your filter with strings to use etc. To get the text exported,
go into the filter rules' filter actions tab, scroll down until you
reach the option 'Export Message to File'.

Select 'Append to Existing file'.

There are two buttons associated with the action. The one to the left
will bring up a dialog for you to browse to and/or create the desired
text file. The button to the right will bring up the template that
defines how the message text is exported.

In the export format template put the following regex:

%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)(^Name:.*?\nCity.*?\nProduct.*?\nAmount:?.*?\n).*"%-
%REGEXPBlindMATCH="%TEXT"
%Subpatt="1"

You can test this on some of your messages. You can assign a shortcut
to the filter so that you can manually test messages.

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Re: Myrealbox (slightly off topic)

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:39:03 +0100 Ottar Grimstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

 
>   But how can I unsubscribe from the old address when I no longer can
>   get in touch with the server?
   
Simply Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell what address you want to
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Re[2]: TB! 1.60c quitting on its own!

[daveiw]

Hi Sebastian,

Friday, March 29, 2002, 7:13:53 PM, you wrote:


S> Hey there Dave - I have the EXACT SAME PROBLEM

S> Sebastian

Glad I'm not alone. now all we need is a fix! ;-)

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Parsing online form data

[Jon Lawrance]

Is it possible to use The Bat to take the results of an online form and
somehow create a text file?

I get an email similar to the following:

Name: Joe Bloggs
City: New York
Product: ICC
Amount $97

I would like to build a text file which appends each new order as they come
in.

Is this possible?

Thanks,

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Re: TB! 1.60c quitting on its own!

[Sebastian]

Hey there Dave - I have the EXACT SAME PROBLEM

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Re: TB does not download messages sent to my Yahoo! address.

[Shahar]

Hello jlaikan

On Friday, March 29, 2002, at 9:48:25 PM, jlaikan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to 
Shahar about:
TB does not download messages sent to my Yahoo! address.

> Although I can view my messages when connected to the Yahoo! mail site, TB does not 
>download them?
> Is this due to settings of TB or my Yahoo! e-mail address?


jlaikan,
You have to configure your Yahoo settings to allow POP3 access.
The POP3 server is pop.mail.yahoo.com



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TB does not download messages sent to my Yahoo! address.

[jlaikan]

Hello tbudl,

Although I can view my messages when connected to the Yahoo! mail site, TB does not 
download them? Is this due to settings of TB or my Yahoo! e-mail address?
Thanks for any answer.  
Regards  
  
John
  

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Myrealbox (slightly off topic)

[Ottar Grimstad]

To TBUDL,

  I have used myrealbox (www.myrealbox.com) as my account for reading
  and posting to The Bat user lists. I was made aware of its existence
  on this mailing lists. It is a completely free mail service
  including a smtp-server. Really nice for people accessing the net
  from different places and different providers.

  I have however not been able to connect to them since march 24.th. There
  have been some instability lasting a day or maximum two before as
  well, bur never so long as this. I have given them up, lost 5 days
  of The Bat discussions and reregistered from another address.

  But how can I unsubscribe from the old address when I no longer can
  get in touch with the server?
  

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Re: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Lars,
 
29. marec 2002, 18:07:40, you wrote:

LG> Well, they don't have to. If you use OE (and I guess it's the same with
LG> Outlook, don't know about AOL) and you are using HTML formatting, then
LG> there's a button to create a link. This will take care of the  href=...> stuff, so you don't have to matter about it. So I still think
LG> that it's preferable not to make an address clickable if this was not
LG> intended by the original creator. But that's just my $0.02.

IIRC, OE automatically created a link () if you typed www or e-mail
address, even in HTML mode.

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Re: Nickname auto complete

[Oleg Titov]

hello,
 I would like to see this feature too. I easily can select very
 personal nicknames so there no doubt to who I am writing to.

 Please, consider nickname completition priority over e-mail and name.

 Greetings,

 Oleg

D> So my suggestion is that that the nickname search takes
D> priority over both the name and Email addresss. and that the %TOFName
D> should always be the actual first name and not the first part of an
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Re: SOS -- upgrading to new machine... [UPDATE]

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On Friday, March 29, 2002, at 7:37:20 AM PST, Reed Byers wrote:

> I haven't installed ZoneAlarm yet -- if I do, and there's any
> problems, I'll let everyone know.

Hello Reed,

I've been using ZoneAlarm Pro and TB! together for a long time, and
have never had any problems between them (on WinME).

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Re: Nickname auto complete

[Gene Gough]

Yes, we have been asking for that and I submitted a formal enhancement
request for it.  There was some response that seemed somewhat positive
but it has not been implemented yet.  I also suggested a switch to
turn this on and off so that those that don't want the change do not
have to suffer with it.




Friday, March 29, 2002, 12:01:07 PM, Databug wrote:

> priority over both the name and Email addresss. and that the %TOFName
> should always be the actual first name and not the first part of an
> EMail addy.



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Re: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Joseph,
On Friday, March 29, 2002 at 10:36:23 [GMT -0600], you wrote:

>> If someone wants clickable links in a HTML mail, one could easily use
>> www.name.com.

>> I wouldn't call it a bug, it's exactly what I'd expect.

JN> I see your logic, I guess, but disagree. If a non-programmer using
JN> OE or Outlook or AOL is writing an email, they would not think of
JN> coding the site, nor should they.

Well, they don't have to. If you use OE (and I guess it's the same with
Outlook, don't know about AOL) and you are using HTML formatting, then
there's a button to create a link. This will take care of the  stuff, so you don't have to matter about it. So I still think
that it's preferable not to make an address clickable if this was not
intended by the original creator. But that's just my $0.02.

JN> (b) it's inconsistent with the way that the text viewer itself works
JN> in TB!  A non-coded URL will be hot in the text viewer.

Agreed, the PTV makes recognized addresses clickable. But on the other
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Nickname auto complete

[Databug]

Hello all,
I`m using the Bat 1.60c and have been pleased to find the nickname
comletion working however if I could suggest a further improvement to
this feature. I have a friend whose nickname is Phinehas and his EMail
addy is phinehas1@--- however when I type phinehas it comes up with the
Email instead of the Nick. Then the Bat uses phinehas1 for the
%TOFName. So my suggestion is that that the nickname search takes
priority over both the name and Email addresss. and that the %TOFName
should always be the actual first name and not the first part of an
EMail addy.

That`s all for now

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Re: Line length and inbox-known

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Friday, March 29, 2002, 10:17:34 AM, Marion wrote:

MD>> Qualcomm seems to have lost interest in the program, making me
MD>> wonder what its eventual fate will be.

>   To me too! Good to know I am not the only one ;-)
>   Strange thing, I don't have these problems on my laptop, while using
>   the same version of Eudora, both registered.
>   Rumor has it they are discontinuing the program, there are no beta's
>   in progress, I didn't get any answer to my cries for help...

I too got fed up with Eudora's instability some time back.

There is actually one beta in progress, 5.1 for OS X, but they do seem
moribund. I really can't imagine them actually discontinuing the
program, unless going adware had a negative impact on their revenue
flow, just stopping development. But I'm not privy to any information
or even rumors.

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Re: Line length and inbox-known

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:34:14 -0800 Melissa Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ACM>> Pegasus has the ability to reflow sender paragraphs when quoting
> ACM>> them. What it did was to reflow you're quoted material, but
> ACM>> unlike TB!, it doesn't recognise initialed quote prefixing. It
> ACM>> therefore treated it like part of the paragraph text and
> ACM>> reflowed the prefixes with the text.

Perfect explanation Allie!
 
> > Okay, I'll take that into account. And I'll try out Lars' suggestion
> > with the maco, although that will need some studying ;-)
> 
> One thing you may want to do, just to be compatible with the widest
> range of other people's mailers, is to use the "standard" quote prefix
> ("> ") instead of a sender's initials. To change that for each
> account, under Account Properties/Templates/Reply, choose "none".

Initial Prefix is really bitten a lot of other MUA out there :-)
My mailer developer just response this conditions last 2 weeks, it does
recognize quote prefix more better now :-)


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Re: Line length and inbox-known

[Allie C Martin]

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:34:14 -0800, Melissa Reese [MR] wrote these
comments:
...
MR> One thing you may want to do, just to be compatible with the widest
MR> range of other people's mailers, is to use the "standard" quote prefix
MR> ("> ") instead of a sender's initials. To change that for each
MR> account, under Account Properties/Templates/Reply, choose "none".

If you really want to be fancy and use the capabilities of TB!, you
can set things up so that initials are used if the sender is using a
client that supports initials, otherwise initials will not be used.

If interested do the following.

Create a Quick template and give it the handle name 'prefix'. In it
paste the following regex template macro:

%IF:"%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?im-s)^X-Mailer\:.*(Bat!|Becky).*$""%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%HEADERS""%-
%SUBPATT=""1"""="":"NONE":"I"


After that, for each template in which you need to use initials
appropriately, place the following macros *before* the %Quotes macro.
You can place this line above the %Quotes macro.

%Quotestyle='%Qinclude="prefix"'%-

You're done. Enjoy!

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Re[2]: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Joseph N.]

 Lars Geiger wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

> If someone wants clickable links in a HTML
> mail, one could easily use www.name.com.

> I wouldn't call it a bug, it's exactly what I'd expect.

I see your logic, I guess, but disagree.  If a non-programmer using OE
or Outlook or AOL is writing an email, they would not think of coding
the site, nor should they.

One could, I suppose, say that's fine, but then the URL shouldn't need
to be hot.  While that might be true, (a) Internet-related pages have
evolved to contain, and are expected to contain, hot links, and (b)
it's inconsistent with the way that the text viewer itself works in
TB!  A non-coded URL will be hot in the text viewer.

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Re: Line length and inbox-known

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On Friday, March 29, 2002, at 5:40:38 AM PST, Marion wrote:

ACM>> Pegasus has the ability to reflow sender paragraphs when quoting
ACM>> them. What it did was to reflow you're quoted material, but
ACM>> unlike TB!, it doesn't recognise initialed quote prefixing. It
ACM>> therefore treated it like part of the paragraph text and
ACM>> reflowed the prefixes with the text.

> Okay, I'll take that into account. And I'll try out Lars' suggestion
> with the maco, although that will need some studying ;-)

Hello Marion,

One thing you may want to do, just to be compatible with the widest
range of other people's mailers, is to use the "standard" quote prefix
("> ") instead of a sender's initials. To change that for each
account, under Account Properties/Templates/Reply, choose "none".

Melissa
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Re[2]: newsgroups

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hi Allie,

> If you're really interested in doing what you want to and spend some
> cash in doing so then have a look at 'Mailtraq':
> http://www.fastraq.co.uk/

That was a great tip, thanks a lot.

They have a free version that I have downloaded and installed, and got
it working in about 30 minutes.

I can now get my favourite newsgroups in TB! Great!!!

Thanks again.

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Re: SOS -- upgrading to new machine... [UPDATE]

[Allie C Martin]

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...
RB> UPDATE:



Nice to here that things went well for you.

RB> UPDATED UPDATE:

Next will be updated, updated, update? 

RB> Oops. Just as I went to send this, I realized my personal address
RB> book did not get imported with everything else. Should I simply
RB> locate and copy the address book files from my previous Bat
RB> directory, or is there a better way?

You could do this or do an import operation from your address book.

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Re[4]: Line length and inbox-known

[Marion]

Hello Michael,

Friday, March 29, 2002, 4:47:33 PM, you wrote:

MD> This is of great comfort to me, as I thought I was the only one having
MD> this  problem  with  Eudora. I guess when they put in the adware, they
MD> broke  something  else.  Also, Qualcomm seems to have lost interest in
MD> the program, making me wonder what its eventual fate will be.

  To me too! Good to know I am not the only one ;-)
  Strange thing, I don't have these problems on my laptop, while using
  the same version of Eudora, both registered.
  Rumor has it they are discontinuing the program, there are no beta's
  in progress, I didn't get any answer to my cries for help...
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Re: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Joseph,
On Friday, March 29, 2002 at 08:54:06 [GMT -0600], you wrote:

JN> Lars, I'm surprised this one isn't confirmed. Let me get it right:
JN> you can click a link in the format of www.name.com that appears in
JN> TB! on the tab that reads "message.htm" (not the text tab, which
JN> just has a number and clicks fine for me)??

Ah, I see now. You mean the fact that a plain www address is not
internally recognized as a link and therefore not made "clickable". But
that is what I'd expect. If someone wants clickable links in a HTML
mail, one could easily use www.name.com.

I wouldn't call it a bug, it's exactly what I'd expect. But I'm sure
that there are others on this list with a different opinion.

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Re: Line length and inbox-known

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our collective wisdom:
...
M> Other question I couldn't find, what is the purpose of the
M> inbox-known?

It's a common folder created 'out of the box', to be used with the
inbox filter for each account called 'known'.

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Re[3]: Line length and inbox-known

[Michael Disabato]

Friday, March 29, 2002, 7:40:38 AM, Marion scribbled:

M> Right! I have been using Eudora for 7 years now, never really
M> configuring it from scratch, but lately it has been playing trics on
M> me and making some messages disappear in cyberspace. So I decided to
M> try The Bat!

This is of great comfort to me, as I thought I was the only one having
this  problem  with  Eudora. I guess when they put in the adware, they
broke  something  else.  Also, Qualcomm seems to have lost interest in
the program, making me wonder what its eventual fate will be.

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Re[2]: SOS -- upgrading to new machine... [UPDATE]

[Reed Byers]

UPDATE:

The whole procedure worked flawlessly.  After copying my Email folders
to a safe place, I upgraded to The Bat! 1.60C on my old Win98 system
-- no problem. Then I used the Tools->Backup menu option to save
everything it possibly could.  On the new system, I installed The Bat!
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file. I clicked "Yes" and voila, everything is exactly as it was, only
on my new system and with an upgraded Bat.

My thanks to all who responded so quickly; especially to Dierk Haasis
and Allie C Martin, whose recommended procedure saved me so much
hassle.

I haven't installed ZoneAlarm yet -- if I do, and there's any
problems, I'll let everyone know.

(Now if only the new Bat implemented a "bound" cursor option in the
Email editor, my life would truly be complete...)



UPDATED UPDATE:

Oops.  Just as I went to send this, I realized my personal address
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locate and copy the address book files from my previous Bat directory,
or is there a better way?  Thanks again!

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> ...
DH>> 1. I think TB!'s message base format was changed somewhere around
DH>> 1.46 to 1.49. It may be a good idea to first make that upgrade to
DH>> not loose any messages.

DH>> 2. Somewhere during the 1.5x series a good backup/restore was added
DH>> especially for such tasks as yours. So another point to make an
DH>> upgrade before changing machines.

> I concur with these two points whole heartedly. I just migrated from
> using a 400Mhz desktop running Win2k to a 1.3Ghz laptop running WinXP. I
> had to do exactly what you wish to, though my running version of TB! was
> more current.

> I'd do the following:

> a) Backup your current installation and then do an upgrade of your
> current installation to the current one. Only if it's working well
> should you proceed with the rest of the steps. Otherwise, restore your
> old installation, and we can discuss how to transfer it to your new
> system.

> If you've successfully upgraded you can do the following:

> a) Go to the Tools menu and select 'Backup'. Tick all the items there,
> select 'Standard' backup and hit the 'browse' to indicate where you wish
> the backup file to be placed and the name you wish to give it. Now run
> the backup.

> b) On the new machine, install TB! v1.60c. You may be asked if you wish
> to restore a from a backup during this installation (new feature that I
> haven't personally seen in action). If so, then give it the backup file
> to work with and you're done.

> If not, not to worry. Do what I had to do. :-) Just continue with the
> installation, create an account as instructed (and which you'll delete
> after restoring your installation). When you're finished with that part
> go to the tools menu and select 'restore'. Add your backup file and tick
> all the items at the bottom and go.

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Re: Stupidly forgotten: Time intervall message read

[Gene Gough]

Account/Properties/Options




Friday, March 29, 2002, 10:09:57 AM, Dierk wrote:

DH> To make it a bit clearer: I can't find the place where to set the
DH>   time interval before a message gets marked as read (I must have
DH>   been there once because I set messages to be marked read when opened
DH>   in their own window; I now want to set the time interval a bit
DH>   longer).




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Stupidly forgotten: Time intervall message read

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello TBUDL Members!

  To make it a bit clearer: I can't find the place where to set the
  time interval before a message gets marked as read (I must have
  been there once because I set messages to be marked read when opened
  in their own window; I now want to set the time interval a bit
  longer).


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Re[2]: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Joseph N.]

Lars, I'm surprised this one isn't confirmed.  Let me get it right:
you can click a link in the format of www.name.com that appears in TB!
on the tab that reads "message.htm" (not the text tab, which just has
a number and clicks fine for me)??

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 Lars Geiger wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

JN>> Internet hyperlinks are not clickable, i.e., do not function, on
JN>> that HTML tab. They only function when I go to the text viewer tab.
JN>> Is there a good reason for this?

> Not confirmed. Works fine here.



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Re[2]: Line length

[Marion]

Hello Dwight,

Friday, March 29, 2002, 3:09:00 PM, you wrote:

DAC> While unfortunately true, one should not overlook the one part which
DAC> can be done account wide. If you mark all the folders in an account to
DAC> use account default column settings then you can adjust the column
DAC> arrangements on an account wide basis.

 Ah, but that makes quite a difference. For the moment that was mainly
 what I was doing. Thanks!


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Re: Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Joseph,
On Friday, March 29, 2002 at 08:07:07 [GMT -0600], you wrote:

JN> I have 1.60c set to use the fixed width viewer (i.e., not the RTV),
JN> to show HTML mail in TB!'s native viewer, and to show the HTML tab
JN> first.

Exactly the same setup here, with Opera set as the default browser.

JN> Internet hyperlinks are not clickable, i.e., do not function, on
JN> that HTML tab. They only function when I go to the text viewer tab.
JN> Is there a good reason for this?

Not confirmed. Works fine here.

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Re: Line length

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Friday, March 29, 2002, 5:35:01 AM, Allie C Martin wrote:

M>>  Is there a way to  configure all the folders of one account at
M>>  the same time? That  would save a lot of work ;-)

> No. There's no way of configuring multiple folder properties at the same
> time.

While unfortunately true, one should not overlook the one part which
can be done account wide. If you mark all the folders in an account to
use account default column settings then you can adjust the column
arrangements on an account wide basis.

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Nonfunctioning links in html viewer

[Joseph N.]

I have 1.60c set to use the fixed width viewer (i.e., not the RTV), to
show HTML mail in TB!'s native viewer, and to show the HTML tab first.
Internet hyperlinks are not clickable, i.e., do not function, on that
HTML tab.  They only function when I go to the text viewer tab.  Is
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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

[Gene Gough]

Well, I used shift-F4 to create this reply without quoting.  Select an
incoming message, right click and then select special for some of the
options.  I too am moving from PMMAIL and pretty much have configured
what I want, a few things still to figure out.




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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

[Gene Gough]

It just worked for me as you can see below. That is exactly where I
marked.




Friday, March 29, 2002, 12:39:59 AM, Dave wrote:

DiP> I am still confused by this.  All I get is a blank reply screen when I
DiP> highlight text and use F4 using latest 1.60c Bat and WinXP.  This is the
DiP> only feature



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Re[2]: Line length and inbox-known

[Marion]

Hello Allie,

Friday, March 29, 2002, 1:29:42 PM, you wrote:

ACM> me when I decided to make most folders new messages be displayed by
ACM> the mail ticker. It was tedious going from folder to folder to toggle
ACM> the switch I need to. :-/

Right! I have been using Eudora for 7 years now, never really
configuring it from scratch, but lately it has been playing trics on
me and making some messages disappear in cyberspace. So I decided to
try The Bat!

ACM> Pegasus has the ability to reflow sender paragraphs when quoting them.
ACM> What it did was to reflow you're quoted material, but unlike TB!, it
ACM> doesn't recognise initialed quote prefixing. It therefore treated it
ACM> like part of the paragraph text and reflowed the prefixes with the
ACM> text.

Okay, I'll take that into account. And I'll try out Lars' suggestion
with the maco, although that will need some studying ;-)

Other question I couldn't find, what is the purpose of the
inbox-known?

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Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Dwight.

At 9:31 PM on Thursday, March 28, 2002 you wrote the
following about [CTRL-F4 and quoted test]:

>>> If I understand your question, the answer is to highlite the text
>>> and hit F4

>> Yes, but this doesn't work when you want to reply private to a member
>> of a mailing list.

Dwight> that actually depends on how the list is set up. I'm on some annoying
Dwight> lists where the default is private reply, so it only works for that.

Dwight> What is needed is a key stroke which allows one to highlite text, then
Dwight> reply to all

  Since it doesn't currently exist, why not try something
  the following?

  Create a template that includes %CLEAR & a clipboard dump
  so all you have to do is  type the name of
  your template +  & you should have it.

  Its not a keystroke but you could make it as short as
  3-keystrokes [after SHFT-CTRL-F5] which is not too bad.

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Re: Line length

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Marion,
On Friday, March 29, 2002 at 13:21:48 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

M> I sent a mail with quotes  to a friend and got it back like this:

>> EF> ok, veld voor verzendkosten dus wel erbij maar de totaalberekening
>> niet, dan EF> wel een melding erbij dat de verzendkosten herberekend
>> worden en dat de EF> prijs die op de pagina bij het product genoemd is
>> dus een indicatie is.

M> She is using Pegasus, so maybe it it is her settings?

It is her setting. TB is one of the few MUAs that uses and recognizes
the sender's initials before the quote signs. Therefore Pegasus doesn't
recognize your quoting and just reflows it.

You can place the following macro in your reply template before the
%QUOTES macro:

,- [ Set alternate quotestyle (put this into your reply template) ]
| %QUOTESTYLE='%QINCLUDE="prefix"'
`-

where "prefix" refers to this Quick template:

,- [ Quick template "prefix" ]
| %IF:'%-
| %SETPATTREGEXP="(?im-s)^(X-Mailer|User-Agent)\:.*(Bat!|Becky|Gnus)"%-
| %REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%Headers"%-
| %SUBPATT="2"%-
| '='':'None':'I'
`-

This will restrict the use of a quote prefix to replies to the people
who use a MUA which is capable of handling it (currently The Bat!, Becky
and Gnus).

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Can't change Message Pane Header Font

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

I'd like to change the font of messages list in folders or as i
understand Message Pane Header font.

But it seems  menu Options-Preferences-System-Fonts to be useless and
doesn't work.  Yes it changes Folder Pane Font, but not Message Pane !


Buggy?
  

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Re: Line length

[Allie C Martin]

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In a message dated, Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:21:48 +0100, Marion [M] wrote:
...
M> Thank you for responding, I will have to invest more time then ;-)

It can be traumatic if you're starting out with a new setup with many
new folders or you wish to make a change to all folders as happened to
me when I decided to make most folders new messages be displayed by
the mail ticker. It was tedious going from folder to folder to toggle
the switch I need to. :-/

M> I sent a mail with quotes  to a friend and got it back like this:

>> EF> ok, veld voor verzendkosten dus wel erbij maar de totaalberekening
>> niet, dan EF> wel een melding erbij dat de verzendkosten herberekend
>> worden en dat de EF> prijs die op de pagina bij het product genoemd is
>> dus een indicatie is.

M> She is using Pegasus, so maybe it it is her settings?

When using TB!, you don't have to worry that what you see before you
hit send isn't what the recipient will get. So if you get bizarre
formatting in the reply,  it's the senders client that did it.

Pegasus has the ability to reflow sender paragraphs when quoting them.
What it did was to reflow you're quoted material, but unlike TB!, it
doesn't recognise initialed quote prefixing. It therefore treated it
like part of the paragraph text and reflowed the prefixes with the
text.

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Re[2]: Line length

[Marion]

Hello Allie,

Friday, March 29, 2002, 12:35:01 PM, you wrote:

ACM> No. There's no way of configuring multiple folder properties at the same
ACM> time.

Thank you for responding, I will have to invest more time then ;-)

ACM> Go to Optionw/Editor Preferences and set the option 'Wrap text at..' to
ACM> your desired value.

Of course, I haven been there once, don't know why I couldn't find it
again. And the line length is set at 70, zo should be allright.

M>> When someone replies again to me, the initials quotes are all mixed
M>> up in the text. Doesn't make for good reading ;-)

ACM> I don't understand this. TB! just displays what the sender sent you. It
ACM> doesn't interfere with the formatting.

I sent a mail with quotes  to a friend and got it back like this:

> EF> ok, veld voor verzendkosten dus wel erbij maar de totaalberekening
> niet, dan EF> wel een melding erbij dat de verzendkosten herberekend
> worden en dat de EF> prijs die op de pagina bij het product genoemd is
> dus een indicatie is.

She is using Pegasus, so maybe it it is her settings?
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Hex-Editor

[Roland Burger]

Hi Allie,

I tried to forward a PM to you, but it wasn't possible either to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nor to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . What can be the
reason?

Sorry for mailing to this list!

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Re: newsgroups

[Allie C Martin]

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@ 10:39:45 +0100 [ Fri, 29 Mar 2002], Miguel A. Urech [MAU] thoughtfully
wrote the following:
...
MAU> Well, from what I have seen it looks that just the opposite is
MAU> possible with Hamster. That is, to convert e-mail to news format.
MAU> To, for example, manage a list such as this one from a newsreader
MAU> like it was a newsgroup.

MAU> Thanks anyway.

If you're really interested in doing what you want to and spend some
cash in doing so then have a look at 'Mailtraq':
http://www.fastraq.co.uk/

It does what you want to do.


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Re: Line length

[Allie C Martin]

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:21:47 +0100, Marion [M] wrote these comments:
...
M>   I am pretty new to The Bat! and by now have spent about one hole
M>   day to configure my accounts. I must say, I find the different
M>   properties and preferences a bit confusing. Is there a way to
M>   configure all the folders of one account at the same time? That
M>   would save a lot of work ;-)

No. There's no way of configuring multiple folder properties at the same
time.

M> My real question is about line length. I have looked everywhere, read
M> the FAQ (where I found the same question but no answer), to set the
M> characters for line length to less than what they are now. When I
M> reply to a message, the lines are much too long.

Go to Optionw/Editor Preferences and set the option 'Wrap text at..' to
your desired value.

M> When someone replies again to me, the initials quotes are all mixed
M> up in the text. Doesn't make for good reading ;-)

I don't understand this. TB! just displays what the sender sent you. It
doesn't interfere with the formatting.

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Line length

[Marion]

Hello TBUDL,

  I am pretty new to The Bat! and by now have spent about one hole day
  to configure my accounts.
  I must say, I find the different properties and preferences a bit
  confusing. Is there a way to configure all the folders of one
  account at the same time? That would save a lot of work ;-)
  My real question is about line length. I have looked everywhere,
  read the FAQ (where I found the same question but no answer),  to
  set the characters for line length to less than what they are now.
  When I reply to a message, the lines are much too long. When someone
  replies again to me, the initials quotes are all mixed up in the
  text. Doesn't make for good reading ;-)

  I hope someone can tell me where to adjust that?

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Character set

[Han's]

Hello tbudl,

  I have problem with character set, instance accept message in setting
  character set with Central European (Windows 1250) and when i reply
  message (character set = none), i'am still accept this message in
  character set Central European (Windows 1250), how ? it is possible
  for 'none' character set when i reply ?

  How using %CHARSET for setting character set with 'none' ?

  it is possible ? (replies)
%CHARSET="none"
%QINCLUDE="myreply"
  

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Small bug in 1.60c

[Yuki Taga]

Set the View/Character Set to Shift-JIS.  Works, by golly; I can
actually see both the message list subject and the subject in the
viewer subject line in good Japanese, on a test Shift-JIS message I
sent myself from Japanese Hotmail.  (sadly, the message only views
with the RTV, though)

However, the setting is obviously sticky, which isn't really a
problem.  But upon closing TB and reopening it, the View/Character
Set, while still set on Shift-JIS (I can still read the Japanese)
shows 'None' is selected when you go and have a look at it.

It's either an odd design, or a small bug.  Can anyone confirm with
this or another Character Set?

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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

[Allie C Martin]

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@ 00:29:07 -0700 [ Fri, 29 Mar 2002], Dave In Phoenix [DIP] thoughtfully
wrote the following:
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DIP> OK.. that fixed it Thanks... the only thing I don't like is if you
DIP> don't highlight it quotes all the text. I seldom use quoted text or
DIP> just a very small amount via highlighting since I think it is
DIP> unneeded in most cases. What would be nice is a way to reply and no
DIP> text is quoted unless highlight some text and do F4.

You can either hit F4 without highlighting any text or hit Shift+F4.

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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

[Dave in Phoenix AZ]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:33:41 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote:
>In that case, don't highlight any text and hit F4. 

If I do that, the entire text gets quoted (if I have template set up so it
will work with F4).

Usually I do use an empty reply with only signature since usually I don't
feel it is necesarry to quote text especially in personal mail, only
usually need on discussion lists.  But when I do I can't just highlight
that text and F4 unless I change the template each time (if want to avoid
everything to be quoted)

I guess I am just too use to PMMail where I highlight, reply and only the
highlighted text is quoted and if just reply no text is quoted.

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Re[2]: newsgroups

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Allie,

>>> You can't.  Bat! is not a newsreader.  Mail only.

MAU>> I know, of course. But apparently Allie said it was possible with
MAU>> the help of Hamster and I wanted to try it.

> Apparently there are server applications that can convert news messages
> to e-mail format so that they may be downloaded to an e-mail client.
> I've never done this before but someone had posted that this was
> possible with Hamster.

Well, from what I have seen it looks that just the opposite is
possible with Hamster. That is, to convert e-mail to news format. To,
for example, manage a list such as this one from a newsreader like it
was a newsgroup.

Thanks anyway.

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