Re: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Alexandre, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, at 22:45:45 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:45 where I live) you wrote about: 'Messages getting lost!!!' What the hell is wrong? When the hell are todays and yesterdays mails? I have seen the same problem with Bayesit. It gets installed automaticalky wuith one of the 2.x versions, but apparently the version included does not work properly. Thanks for help!!! I want my lost mails back... You may be lucky: I found my emails in th temp folder with a Bat*.tmp filename. You can import these in your inbox with Tools, Import, From *.MSG files. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.11.03 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources - Solved!
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 10:43:07 PM, Allie wrote: AM The Bayesit plugin directory should be in the TB! installation AM directory. Have you tried moving that directory to another location AM after exiting TB! and then restarting TB!? Woho! Not only is it not hogging CPU, but it is running *really* fast. I had no idea TB! was this quick! Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! I think I'll celebrate by installing 2.11. Am I a glutton for punishment or what? -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?
Hi MAU, Friday, June 11, 2004, 12:07:56 AM, you wrote: M You may Tools/Export theses messages as .MSG, then delete them from M whatever folder you have them in and then do a Tools/import. The received M date and time will be that of when you do the import. That cracked it. I set the clock back a few days (i.e. to what it should have been when receiving certain messages) and exported/deleted/imported sets of messages accordingly. Thanks. Stuart Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok I have no luck at all... All the files exists but are empty: 0 kB. I am so depressed about that adventure... Thank you for this work around anyway... Bayesit is really shitty. I mean it's not because a product is exciting that it must be included... Poor interface, no documentation, and not working... I'm a developer and I would never distribute such a product without having done minimum tests... especially when the product has a chance to behave in such a devastating way. And of course even if you have paid RITLABS for a licence, the licence says: RITLABS makes no warranty that all errors have been or can be eliminated from the program software and, with respect thereto, RITLABS shall not be responsible for losses, damages, costs, or expenses of any kind resulting from using or misusing the program including without limitation, any liability for business expenses, machine downtime, damages experienced by you or any third person as a result of any deficiency, defect, bug, error or malfunction. CLEARLY RITLABS MAKES FUN OF ME. GOOD BOY YOU HAVE PAID THE LICENCE! AND WE DON'T CARE IF OUR PRODUCT WORKS OR NOT. I REALLY LOVE TO PAY FOR SUCH A THING!!! NEXT TIME REALLY I'LL THINK BEFORE PAYING A LICENCE FOR A SOFTWARE... I FEEL SO STUPID. Version 1 was working so well I thought version 2 would be better. Now I wonder what will happen to me next... -- Alexandre Vialle Le vendredi 11 juin 2004 à 08:06 vous avez écrit: RvdH Hi Alexandre, RvdH On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, at 22:45:45 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:45 where I live) RvdH you wrote about: 'Messages getting lost!!!' What the hell is wrong? When the hell are todays and yesterdays mails? RvdH I have seen the same problem with Bayesit. It gets installed automaticalky RvdH wuith one of the 2.x versions, but apparently the version included does not RvdH work properly. Thanks for help!!! I want my lost mails back... RvdH You may be lucky: I found my emails in th temp folder with a Bat*.tmp RvdH filename. RvdH You can import these in your inbox with Tools, Import, From *.MSG files. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Palm
ST Hello rich, ST Thursday, June 10, 2004, 3:16:28 PM, you wrote: rg Is that so? The TB! AB never compresses? ST Yep! Try it. You could export all of your addresses, delete them all ST from the AB, and the file size remains the same. Then import all the ST addresses you just exported and the AB will double in size. HI, Can you tell the name of this file to watch out ? WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Word wrapping
Hi On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 5:05:03 PM, Martin wrote: SE When I'm using the message editor, I find that I have to keep on SE doing Utilities-Format Block-Left (or Alt-L) to keep my paragraphs SE correctly wrapped and justified. Is there any mode where word SE wrapping happens on an ongoing basis as happens in many word SE processors and text editors? MW What's your 'Wrap text to' option set to? (Options | Preferences | Editor MW preferences)... and what editor do you use? If you're using MicroEd MW there's another setting for 'Auto-wrap' that needs to be checked. Thanks for this. Auto Wrap is on, but Auto Format is off. The latter seems to be what I need. One minor irritation: Auto Format doesn't seem to understand the minus minus space .sig separator, and wraps the separator and following lines if you type on the blank line above the .sig separator. -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Word wrapping
On Fri 11 June 2004, 19:47:48 +1000, Simon Elliott wrote: The latter seems to be what I need. One minor irritation: Auto Format doesn't seem to understand the minus minus space .sig separator, and wraps the separator and following lines if you type on the blank line above the .sig separator. AutoFormat doesn't recognise a paragraph break unless it contains _2_ newlines. So if you if you want a single newline, i.e. something like a line and another, then you need to turn AutoFormat off. CTRL-SHIFT-F will toggle AutoFormat on or off. The alternative is to leave AutoFormat off and use ALT-L (or ALT-C or ALT-J) to format the paragraph. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources - Solved!
Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: Woho! B-) ;-) Not only is it not hogging CPU, but it is running *really* fast. I had no idea TB! was this quick! Oh yes, it is fast. I'm happy you can now experience one of the things I enjoy about TB!. Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! Anytime, anytime, anytime. :) I'm really happy we solved that one for you. I think I'll celebrate by installing 2.11. Am I a glutton for punishment or what? Watch out for the Bayesit installation when you install v2.11. I've never used Bayesit and it's never been auto-enabled just by a TB! install. But watch out anyway. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpuG6YsKavfI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Alexandre, At 3:06 AM on Friday, June 11, 2004 you AV wrote the following Messages getting lost!!!: AV [...] CLEARLY RITLABS MAKES FUN OF ME. GOOD BOY YOU HAVE PAID AV THE LICENCE! AND WE DON'T CARE IF OUR PRODUCT WORKS OR NOT. AV [\...] ...or, possibly, if their users know how to use it correctly. AV [...] I thought version 2 would be better. Now I wonder what AV will happen to me next... [\...] IMO, v2 is, indeed, an improvement even though I've made some silly mistakes as well. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to use PGP/MIME
I'm trying to get the PGP signature as an attachment, but how do I do that? When I select PGP/MIME TheBat! tells me that there is no certificate. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Mary, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 3:43:14 PM, you wrote: MB Last night I re-downloaded v. 2.11.02 and used the second download to MB re-install The Bat! That did not help. The icons still did not MB respond. I tried that also. I'm running that new .3 beta, and the result is the same. MB My cousin, who uses a Mac machine, had sent me 2 scans of old marriage MB certificates and 4 scans of old family photos as 6 separate MB attachments to 6 separate messages. She scanned them as .tif format MB and converted to .jpg before sending. Those attachments still will not MB open unless saved to Desktop and all attachments--whether MS Word MB Documents or jpeg images--I had received prior to her sending the 6 MB attachments will also still not open. I also have a Mac, but it makes no difference. I can't view /any/ attachment. Even worse, when I do receive an attachment, I have to drag the message to another folder (also remote IMAP) before the attachement gets the correct size. Usually it's about 128 bytes before I move it and whatever its size is after I move it. MB But changing to the external viewer does not change the behavior of MB the non-responding icons. They just sit there and do nothing when MB double-clicked or requested to open. No dialogue window, nothing. So I MB put the setting back to internal viewer, which I prefer because I MB think that is safer. Same here. I can only save. MB I should add for clarity, what I put in my original query: This all MB began while I was still using TB! v. 2.00.6. I downloaded v. 2.11.02 MB hoping to cure the problem. That, of course, did not help, except that MB I can now see smileys at will. g Nor does reverting XP Home to an MB earlier restore point fix the non-responding icons. I'm a new user. .2 was my first (about 5 weeks ago). Bought it a week ago and installed the new beta. MB So that's all my latest info. What do you think? That it's too hard to figure out how to do it. However, I chose the bat because it uses plaintext /and/ has a graphical user interface. Or else, I'd still be using mutt. No attachments or mime, no virii. Never had that sort of trouble on the Mac. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Where do I post feature requests?
I'd like to see /italic/, *bold* and _underlined_ text converted to its, erm, typographical equivalent. Don't know how to say it but you probably understand what I'm saying. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading across folders
Hello rich, Friday, June 11, 2004, 1:10:16 AM, you wrote: rg Assume I receive an email. It is in my in-box. rg I reply to it and then move it to a sub-folder. rg At some time later I need to see my reply. rg Is there a way I can select the mssg I replied to and tell it to show rg me the thread? Bear in mind the reply is in my sent mail folder! Apple Mail does that, too. Nice feature. Not trying to hijack the thread, but I think something nice (that's also related) is if it would be possible to save your reply in the same folder as the message you're replying to. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! attachment display settings?
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:20:18 PM, Mary Bull wrote: MB I wasn't sure whether I should delete the .tmp files which were not MB The Bat! files, so I didn't. I periodically empty my temp folder(s). temp folders are just that for temporary use and anything left over from session to session are oversights, poor programming, non-graceful program termination, crashes, etc. Now having said this, some dumb program/programmer will assume files in a temp folder are perpetual and sacrosanct. :-( -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where do I post feature requests?
Where do I post feature requests? Try: Santa Claus North Pole Arctic or Pie in the Sky Cottage Outer Mongolia They'll be just as effective as feature requests if you send them to those addresses. Sarcastic? Me? N! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Bonjour Marck, Le vendredi 11 juin 2004 à 11:54:55, vous écriviez : MDP Dear Alexandre, MDP @11-Jun-2004, 09:06 +0200 (11-Jun 08:06 UK time) Alexandre Vialle MDP [AV] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Robert: AV well I thought version 2 would be better. Now I wonder what will AV happen to me next... MDP this: MDP moderator MDP Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not MDP just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have MDP instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Alexandre. Why should I? MDP This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Oh, this sounds really bad. I didn't feel like I was violating this list's rules. In fact I was much more preoccupied by my problem, rather than any rules rape. But please accept all my excuses. MDP Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your MDP message and following it with all quoted text below, is not MDP encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list MDP because MDP a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the MDPtop of the message Oh it's true, using the scroll bar on the right side of a window is such a hard thing to do. I can understand really. For my part, I bought the Microsoft IntelliMouse with a special button rolling on the middle that helps you for this particular purpose. It works really great. I think this is a great thing to have to read anything, web, pdf, mails, source codes, etc. And most of my active colleagues agree with that. MDP and MDP b) It encourages excessive quoting. Oh I see. For my part I was not too good at school with summaries, this probably explains your remark. Also, I have no difficulty to type on a keyboard. It can be endless, even to say nothing. But I'll make a special effort for you. MDP We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to MDP which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, MDP and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're MDP responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each MDP part separately and follow each part with your response. Just like I do now then. MDP Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that MDP you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much MDP respect this. Wow, thank you, I was not seeking respect, but at least I have that. As you can see now I sort of respect your preferences too now, most of them, so we are all very happy now. MDP However, this is the format that most of the active members here MDP prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use MDP the format that will make most of the active membership here MDP comfortable reading. I completely understand. But how active are they since they don't want to type, and don't want to scroll? For my part I much more compare activity with movement. No, I'm not only talking about the movement of the eyes! Fingers can move a bit too on the keyboard and at least one arm and one finger can move on the mouse. But the most important is the brain activity, this means the most active members are not in a deep coma or dead. :)) And for a comfortable reading, I recommend, silence, a pillow behind the neck, a bucket to urinate and a perfusion of water and glucose. :)) MDP You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a MDP style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Oh since I already have the answer to my question: The Bat is not the reliable product I thought it was, I wont annoy anyone here anymore I swear. I'll just uninstall The Bat, unsubscribe to this list, and let the most active members between them. Oh and I forgot to thank you very much for your respect, it goes right to my heart. MDP To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of MDP private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you MDP subscribed. No thank you I don't care really. MDP :'='':'' Oh this little sign is pretty. Is it something the most active members enjoy too? MDP Thank you. I did nothing really. But thank you for the respect again :D MDP /moderator' Do I have to sign like this too? Well maybe the most active members do, so I'd better do it not to hurt them :)) /terminator IV Cordialement, -- Alexandre Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where do I post feature requests?
Dear Nednieuws, @11-Jun-2004, 15:11 +0200 (11-Jun 14:11 UK time) Charles M. Gerungan [NC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: NC I'd like to see /italic/, *bold* and _underlined_ text converted NC to its, erm, typographical equivalent. Don't know how to say it NC but you probably understand what I'm saying. A good suggestion and I have a feeling something may already be on the wishlist for it. You can join the BT (BugTraq) - you'll find details on the list info page (see the link at the bottom of each message or attached in PART.TXT for the address). The BT hosts the wishlist. This is used to seed ongoing development. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpgGbcts87na.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!)
Dear Alexandre, @11-Jun-2004, 15:30 +0200 (11-Jun 14:30 UK time) Alexandre Vialle [AV] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: AV well I thought version 2 would be better. Now I wonder what AV will happen to me next... MDP this: MDP moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to MDP all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even MDP if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't MDP feel singled out Alexandre. AV Why should I? I don't know why you should, but you clearly did! :-/. Oh well. MDP This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. AV Oh, this sounds really bad. I didn't feel like I was violating AV this list's rules. In fact I was much more preoccupied by my AV problem, rather than any rules rape. But please accept all my AV excuses. That's very kind of you. Thank you. ... snip -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgph3Tx0fAlng.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Alexandre, At 9:30 AM on Friday, June 11, 2004 you AV wrote the following Messages getting lost!!!: AV [...] Cordialement, [/...] If you are interested in being cordial, etc. why not post your sarcastic, unpleasant emails somewhere else. If you don't. I have the feeling the moderators will assist you. Don't know what you are used to but this list is very supportive, helpful courteous. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Charles! On Friday, June 11, 2004, 8:08 AM, you wrote: MB ... non-responding [attachment] icons in [The Bat!]. My problem was solved last night when Urban suggested that I delete my TEMP files. With the help of several others, we got the clue that an excess of them might be causing the problem. Still others helped me find the path to those bat.tmp files in my WinXP Home operating system. There were 88 of them, all empty. As soon as I moved them out of the TEMP folder, all attachment icons in my messages responded normally. So I then deleted the 88 bat.tmp files. In the future, deleting .tmp files is going to be one of my regular computer housekeeping chores. :) CMG I'm a new user. .2 was my first (about 5 weeks ago). Bought it a week CMG ago and installed the new beta. Be sure to bring any and all problems here. There are subscribers here who will stay with you until your problem is fixed or another source of help is thought of. The TB! discussion lists are among the best things available in using TB!, I think. Thank you again, also, for writing to me. It helped my morale a lot to hear that I was not alone. Although, of course, it's quite possible that your difficulties don't have the same cause as mine. MB So that's all my latest info. What do you think? CMG That it's too hard to figure out how to do it. ... Yes, but the rewards are great in the end. I have been using The Bat! for something over a year-and-a-half now. I came to it with minimal computer skills and installed it on a Win95 OS. Generous people on this list have been my tutors in nearly everything. CMG ... However, I chose the bat because it uses plaintext /and/ has CMG a graphical user interface. Or else, I'd still be using mutt. That's why I picked it. And I'm still a plain-text person. I just turn the new smileys on occasionally for fun. But too much color on my screen is distracting, and HTML often physically hurts my eyes. Additionally, and as my first reason, I picked The Bat! for its safety. I can view my messages on the server and delete those I don't want to download. It has its own code for everything and I'm not at risk from the Internet Explorer core that Outlook Express uses. Well, the advantages are too many to list here, where everyone values sticking to the point and being as brief as possible. Delete your TEMP files if you need to? Tell us all here what happens then? And thanks again for writing! CMG No attachments or mime, no virii. Never had that sort of trouble on CMG the Mac. All Mac users love the Mac, I think. But once involved with Windows, I have found it hard to leave. I hope all your difficulties with The Bat! find solutions soon. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading across folders
On Friday, June 11, 2004 @ 9:14:46 PM, Charles M. Gerungan wrote: [snips] Charles Not trying to hijack the thread, but I think something nice (that's Charles also related) is if it would be possible to save your reply in the Charles same folder as the message you're replying to. Which is what Agent lets you do, and it's a very very good feature. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Appreciation is a wonderful thing: It makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well. Voltaire Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Plan9! On Friday, June 11, 2004, 8:16 AM, you wrote: MB I wasn't sure whether I should delete the .tmp files which were not MB The Bat! files, so I didn't. P I periodically empty my temp folder(s). temp folders are just that P for temporary use and anything left over from session to session are P oversights, poor programming, non-graceful program termination, crashes, P etc. Now having said this, some dumb program/programmer will assume P files in a temp folder are perpetual and sacrosanct. :-( Maybe not. If I have a program that stupid on my machine, I don't need it anyway! g And I don't believe any *dumb* programmers subscribe to this list. :) But then, I'm in love with all my fellow subscribers, and there's the old proverb Love is Blind. I'm going to empty the entire temp folder now and see what happens. If you hear a loud scream, scoot over here quick and take me to the emergency room. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading across folders
Hello M, Friday, June 11, 2004, 3:59:48 PM, you wrote: Charles Not trying to hijack the thread, but I think something nice (that's Charles also related) is if it would be possible to save your reply in the Charles same folder as the message you're replying to. MicCullen Which is what Agent lets you do, and it's a very very good feature. What is Agent? Is it a plugin which gives me this functionality in TheBat!? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading across folders
Hello Charles! On Friday, June 11, 2004, 8:14 AM, you wrote: CMG Not trying to hijack the thread, but I think something nice (that's CMG also related) is if it would be possible to save your reply in the CMG same folder as the message you're replying to. There's a way to make a filter in The Bat! which will do that. I'm not that far along in using filters so I can't teach you about that. Perhaps you could start a new thread with a subject line something like How to filter Replies to Original Message folder. That might catch the eye of some of the experts here, who might not be watching the threading across folders thread. Right now, I myself go down to my Sent Mail folder after I send a Reply to some of my correspondents in Private Mail, and do a Right-Click on that Reply in the Sent mail message list. I choose Copy to, and then I have the Reply in the Original Message folder (for instance, the folder labeled Sue, for my sister). I do this because I like to keep a chronological Sent Mail folder. I think a filter could be made that would do both, keep a copy of the Reply in the Sent folder and in the Original Message folder. But I've had too much else to learn to try to do this for myself yet. Anyway, you could also go to the link at the bottom of all posts to this list and have a look at info there. Just an extra thing to try. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP sent-mail folder
Allie, On 11-06-2004 04:39, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM It only works well when the Outbox is kept local and not server AM side. If not, I have the messages not being sent and upon sending, I AM end up with two copies of the sent message stuck in the outbox. I wonder if this _incredibly_ basic IMAP feature will ever be implemented. It sort of defies the point of IMAP if it doesn't work for outgoing mail. BTW does (IMAP) filtering from a local sent folder to an IMAP folder work for you? I get an error. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.11.03 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Bonjour Jan, Le vendredi 11 juin 2004 à 15:47:13, vous écriviez : JR Alexandre, JR At 9:30 AM on Friday, June 11, 2004 you AV wrote the following JR Messages getting lost!!!: AV [...] Cordialement, [/...] JR If you are interested in being cordial, etc. why not post your JR sarcastic, unpleasant emails somewhere else. If you don't. I JR have the feeling the moderators will assist you. Don't know what JR you are used to but this list is very supportive, helpful JR courteous. Jan, you must probably feel like one of the active members. I'm sorry if I have hurt you. I have definitely lost 2 days of mails with the bat and I think I still have a great sense of humor... But the moderator here seem to care much more about the appearance of my mail rather than my problem itself. But this doesn't mean I can't make fun of the situation... HUMOR! SMILES! :D But as I said, don't worry all, I wont annoy anyone here anymore. Really. I'll unsubscribe myself. I have no need of the bat. Really. So there was no need to answer that mail. Cordialement, -- Alexandre Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2.11.02 - Congrats to Ritlabs
Friday, June 4, 2004, 11:09:13 PM, mm wrote: As with all new additions, there might be a couple of small dings (for instance in the way the tab does not indent the paragraph but jumps out to the attachment). I too like to indent paragraphs. I discovered that ctrl-I works to create a tab character for indents. Not exactly a TB feature, it just inserts an ASCII 9 which is the tab character. \/\/ayne Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?)
Hi Marck, Friday, June 11, 2004, 10:56:05 AM, you wrote: MDP Dear Stuart, MDP just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have MDP instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Stuart. I don't. Apologies to all. My signature is set correctly in my templates. I must have deleted them on the posts. No idea why. I can see it below now so if it does not appear below this ... I give up :-) -- Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are not confused : you are misinformed Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark
Dear Stuart, @11-Jun-2004, 16:22 Stuart Moore [SM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have MDP instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Stuart. SM I don't. Apologies to all. My signature is set correctly in SM my templates. I must have deleted them on the posts. No idea SM why. I can see it below now so if it does not appear below this SM ... I give up :-) No need! Perfection achieved! :-D -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpEGlRfFSQEp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Palm
Hello WilWilWil, Friday, June 11, 2004, 1:34:24 AM, you wrote: W Can you tell the name of this file to watch out ? Look in c:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail (or wherever you have TB loaded) and look for files with the suffix .ABD. It will depend on what the name of you address book is. -- Best regards, Steve No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
If you ever needed an excuse to use TB!
Hi Bat Users, If someone ever asks you again why they should use TB! and plain tekst for email and not the free copy of that well know email program with the nice HTML email options just point them to this website. http://www.didtheyreadit.com/ When the recipient opens the mail, a one-pixel, transparent GIF file is pulled from the DidTheyReadIt server, generating a logged event that shows when the message was opened and for how long. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Cora McGuffy Spottsworth might, and probably would, recline on tiger skins in the nude and expect Sidney to drink champagne out of her shoe, but she would never wear high heels on the links or say Tee-hee when she missed a putt. ==P.G Wodehouse - FEET OF CLAY == Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: wrapping badly
Hello rich, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:29:09 -0400 GMT (11/06/2004, 01:29 +0700 GMT), rich gregory wrote: rg I know now that TB! does not wrap links. Here is an excerpt from an rg email I just got from eBay: rg So the wrapping occurs where? At sender's side. rg I suppose telling eBay to stop doing this would be a waste of my time! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I am not hungry enough to eat six. (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML mail forward reply
Hello jwayne, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:29:54 -0400 GMT (11/06/2004, 02:29 +0700 GMT), jwayne wrote: j If I forward HTML mail or reply to it, how do I get the j original message body to stay in HTML format? As is, it gets j converted to plain text. You don't say which TB version you are using. In the latest version, the HTML format will be kept when you forward. It was an oversight in older TB versions. For replying, have you tried to reply using the HTML editor? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. SYMPTOM: Beer tasteless, front of your shirt is wet. FAULT: Mouth not open, or glass applied to wrong part of face. ACTION: Retire to restroom, practice in mirror. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Robin, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 8:47:40 PM, you wrote: On Fri 11 June 2004, 6:09:14 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: I am going to study the Windows XP Home Help site and see if I can find out how to locate the path for %TEMP%\bat\ Open a command prompt window (Start - Run - type in cmd and press enter) then at the command prompt type set (without quotes) and press enter. That will show you all the environment variables including TEMP. It does indeed. This directory does seem to be given in the MS-DOSified form, of having each folder name compacted below 9 letters per folder or filename. But it is still quite workable. It appears I do have quite a few 0 KB bat temp files myself. A real long list, all created in March. All hexadecimally numbered. I wonder what they're counting? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Alexandre, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:30:32 +0200 GMT (11/06/2004, 20:30 +0700 GMT), Alexandre Vialle wrote: AV Oh since I already have the answer to my question: The Bat is not the AV reliable product I thought it was, The Bat is. The BayesIt plugin probably not. Don't use it, I don't either, and I have no problems. I understand that you are upset about losing two days' mails. Maybe you can find them in the spam folder, I don't know BayesIt. I hope you can recover them. The Bat is a reliable program, just as you thought. I don't know why they include the BayesIt plugin in the distro, though. Sorry too hear about your loss. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Stichproben ergaben: Kondome sind oft unsicher. * Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: If you ever needed an excuse to use TB!
Hello Gerard, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:30:24 +0200 GMT (11/06/2004, 22:30 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G If someone ever asks you again why they should use TB! and plain tekst for G email and not the free copy of that well know email program with the nice G HTML email options just point them to this website. While it is true that TB makes you imune, I wonder whether it is really necessary to advertise spammer tools on this list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. He's not dead, he's electroencephalographically challenged. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
2.11.03 Really Slow on POP Retrieval
It seems that since moving to the 2.11.x versions, my installation of TheBat! has become very slow on POP retrieval. The first thing that I tried was disabling all anti-virus and anti-spam plugins. That didn't work. Then I tried to delete and rebuild my spam databases. That didn't work. Lastly, I removed and then reinstalled TheBat! but it still has this speed issue. I have contacted my ISP and confirmed that they are having no connection issues. I am also experiencing this speed issue on 4 different mail servers hosted in different locations around the US. This has been going on for more than a week, so a temporary net outage is not to blame. Any ideas? -- Alex Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT:TB! attachment display settings? and .tmp files
Hello Rich! On Friday, June 11, 2004, 10:31 AM, you wrote: MB I wasn't sure whether I should delete the .tmp files which were not MB The Bat! files, so I didn't. CCing to tbot, since this has moved off topic. :) P I periodically empty my temp folder(s). temp folders are just that P for temporary use and anything left over from session to session are P oversights, poor programming, non-graceful program termination, crashes, P etc. Now having said this, some dumb program/programmer will assume P files in a temp folder are perpetual and sacrosanct. :-( rg I once worked with a prima donna programmer who unilaterally decided rg that the TEMP folder would be a good place to put login script info rg that, if deleted, would have to be rebuilt on the next login. If you rg left it alone it was OK but rebuilding it caused login time to take rg forever. Naturally, lots of help desk calls about locked-up PCs in the rg morning were traced to this guy. lol So, I looked at each .tmp file, just now, and one by one deleted only those which show 0 bytes as their size. To err is human, to err on the side of caution could be a bacon-saver! Thanks, Rich. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Hello Urban, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 03:09:53 +0200 GMT (11/06/2004, 08:09 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: No, I'm not. But my cursor is indeed set before the quotes, and I delete or not and write my replies while I go along. U Didn't think of that. But I can see the sense in it. Just move down U using the arrow keys and start typing where-ever you are. Nice! More crtl-Y than arrow keys, in most cases. ;-) U I do that using the mouse-wheel, so I have to do a mousy-click U first and then move my hand to the keyboard. So your %Cursor macro should still be above the %Quotes macro, or not? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Invent nonsense computer jargon in conversations, and see if people play along to avoid looking ignorant. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move Attachment Pane in Editor
Hello Mike, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:38:14 -0700 GMT (11/06/2004, 08:38 +0700 GMT), Mike Dillinger wrote: TF I can't find it either. Make a wish? MD I've made several, dating back to over a year. Should I add another to MD be ignored? We'll see... Give me the URL of your wish in the BT, and I'll second it. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?
Hello Peter, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:07:08 +0200 GMT (11/06/2004, 02:07 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: SM Is there anyway from within The Bat that I can change these dates SM (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this, is there an obvious SM and safe way to do this to the files outside of The Bat? PM I believe that you can do it with Total Commander. No, TC can change file dates but not the dates of the messages in a .tbb file. It's a good tool though, it can do many things. I bought it a few years ago and wouldn't want to miss it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Did you delete and icon labelled 'The Internet' from your computer? You did? Well, it will take years to restore the entire Internet; in the meantime, the F.B.I. would like to have a word with you. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing emails
Hello rich, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:47:11 -0400 GMT (11/06/2004, 12:47 +0700 GMT), rich gregory wrote: rg THERE IT IS! A manual filter. Now if I could just find out why the rg Quick search box opens up now when it hadn't before! And I would like to find out why we can't optionally switch off the quick search completely and assign single-letter keybaord shutcuts. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen. (Winston Churchill) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: If you ever needed an excuse to use TB!
Hello Thomas, Friday, June 11, 2004, 8:45:10 AM, you wrote: While it is true that TB makes you imune, I wonder whether it is really necessary to advertise spammer tools on this list. I for one appreciate the heads-up from Gerard. I forwarded the link to the IT people at work since they use programs other than TB! :-( -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.11.02 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where do I post feature requests?
On Friday, 11 Jun 2004 15:11 [+0200] Charles M. Gerungan wrote: CMG I'd like to see /italic/, *bold* and _underlined_ text converted to CMG its, erm, typographical equivalent. Don't know how to say it but you CMG probably understand what I'm saying. This wish is already in a long waiting list ;) | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg37207.html | From: Ian Petersen | Subject: Re: Importing from Outlook | Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:34:15 -0700 | .. | It would be good if TB recognised the common forms of emphasis like | _underscores_, *asterisks* and /slashes/ and subtituted these for | underlined, bold and italic respectively. I believe there are other | mailers that are capable of this cough. `- | https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001902 | Date Submitted: 24-10-03 00:52 | Summary: format text with * etc. in new plain-text message `- -- / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Palm
On Thursday, 10 Jun 2004 18:16 [-0400] rich gregory wrote: ST You need to totally delete the address book from time to time as ST it is never compressed and will continue to grow in size... rg Is that so? The TB! AB never compresses? rg Hu Seems that yet not enough people have noticed that they need such functionality ;) | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg28429.html | From: Wayne Black | Subject: Address book | Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 15:21:42 -0700 | .. | Still in this file are names and addresses that I deleted months ago. | They don't show up when I open the address book but they *are* in the | thebat.abd file. Had anyone else noticed this before? | | How would one purge this file of these deleted items without messing | up the address book? Thanks, and hello everybody. I haven't posted in | quite some time but have over 6000 messages in my Batlist folder. | .. `- | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg64190.html | From: Steve Thomas | Subject: Address Book | Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:01:58 -0700 | .. | I use a Palm, and the Palm desktop. To move my addresses to TB, I | do a select all then Export to VCard. Then, I go to the TB | Address book, delete all of the existing addresses (in a dedicated | address book) and import the vcard file. As I do this, the address | book file (palm.adb) grows and grows - it never gets compressed. | Question #1, is there any way to compress the address book file? | .. `- | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg36104.html | From: Greg Strong | Subject: Purge / Compress Address Book | Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:47:04 -0800 | | Has the purge / compress function been added to the address book of TB? | IIRC it was discussed last summer | .. `- | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg40478.html | From: Greg Strong | Subject: Ritlabs Priorities? / Purge of address book / resize of TheBat.ABD file | Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:23:47 -0500 | | TB still does NOT resize the TheBat.ABD after deleting addresses. | This bug has been reported in | https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002333 and | believe it was first discussed in TBBETA last summer. | .. `- -- / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11.03 Really Slow on POP Retrieval
Hello Alex, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:54:04 -0400 GMT (11/06/2004, 22:54 +0700 GMT), Alex Ezell wrote: AE It seems that since moving to the 2.11.x versions, my installation of AE TheBat! has become very slow on POP retrieval. I cannot confirm it, niether under Win98 nor XP Pro. However, TB is known to slow down under these conditions: 1.) The folders haven't been purged compressed for a while. 2.) There are many bat*.tmp files in the %TEMP% folder. 3.) The disk hasn't been defragged for a while. You have ruled out plugins already. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wer am Ende ist, kann von vorne anfangen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Thomas, Friday, June 11, 2004, 5:38:43 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Alexandre, TF On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:30:32 +0200 GMT (11/06/2004, 20:30 +0700 GMT), TF Alexandre Vialle wrote: AV Oh since I already have the answer to my question: The Bat is not the AV reliable product I thought it was, TF The Bat is. The BayesIt plugin probably not. Don't use it, I don't TF either, and I have no problems. I would second this don't use BayesIt !! I was running 0.4g which at least appeared to be working, I just upgraded to 0.5.3 and within 2 hours all my mails ended up in the Junk folder. It is now disabled and I'll rely on Spam Assassin -- Best regards, Grahammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?
Hi Thomas, on Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:01:58 +0700GMT, you wrote: PM [Total Commander] TF No, TC can change file dates but not the dates of the messages in a TF .tbb file. Yes, I see. Good thing the problem could be solved anyway. *S* TF It's a good tool though, it can do many things. I bought it a few TF years ago and wouldn't want to miss it. Same here. I particularly like the FTP capabilities for quick and easy website updatings, but this is getting OT... ;-) -- Cheers Peter Don't humanize computers. They hate that! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.11.03 Really Slow on POP Retrieval
On Friday, June 11, 2004, 12:29:54 PM, Thomas wrote: AE It seems that since moving to the 2.11.x versions, my installation of AE TheBat! has become very slow on POP retrieval. I cannot confirm it, niether under Win98 nor XP Pro. However, TB is known to slow down under these conditions: 1.) The folders haven't been purged compressed for a while. 2.) There are many bat*.tmp files in the %TEMP% folder. 3.) The disk hasn't been defragged for a while. You have ruled out plugins already. OK, I narrowed it down to the Kaspersky Anti-Virus. It's not a plugin, but apparently the newer version of KAV must proxy the POP connection and scan mail as it moves through that connection. So, now my search is on for a Bat-compatible anti-virus. KAV used to work so well with it. FYI, I am using KAV Personal 5.0.124. Thanks for the help! -- Alex Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where do I post feature requests?
Hi Maxim, on Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:22:08 +0400GMT, you wrote: CMG I'd like to see /italic/, *bold* and _underlined_ text converted to CMG its, erm, typographical equivalent. Don't know how to say it but you CMG probably understand what I'm saying. MR This wish is already in a long waiting list ;) MR https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001902 It is indeed a relatively low number. I hope it will be supported soon, now that smileys work. I guess the principle is the same. :-) -- Cheers Peter Originality is the art of concealing your sources. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading across folders
rich gregory wrote: Sometimes in TB! I'll move mssgs FROM the sent mail folder TO the folder where the rest of the correspondence with that individual/company resides. One really nice thing about Eudora was that putting a SENT mssg into any in-box folder would cause the header to show in italics to differentiate it (Sent) from the other msssg in the folder (Recv'd). A TB! colour group could deal with that differentiation. Outgoing message filters could be used to move the message to the folder of choice and correspondingly change colour group. -- -= Allie =- | List Moderator and fellow End-User PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com TB! v2.11.03 · WinXP Pro SP1 pgpZAxawpv0hs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP sent-mail folder
Peter Fjelsten wrote: I wonder if this _incredibly_ basic IMAP feature will ever be implemented. It sort of defies the point of IMAP if it doesn't work for outgoing mail. It's implemented but it's buggy. There are a few who aren't experiencing the buggy server side outbox that I am. BTW does (IMAP) filtering from a local sent folder to an IMAP folder work for you? I get an error. My Sent folder is on the server while my Outbox is local. Upon sending a message, a copy is uploaded to the Sent folder on the server. The only real problem with a local folder is that saved drafts will not be stored centrally. -- -= Allie =- | List Moderator and fellow End-User PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com TB! v2.11.03 · WinXP Pro SP1 pgpfTKOHIpN4w.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: If you ever needed an excuse to use TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Terry, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, at 09:12:36 [GMT-0700] (which was 09:12:36 In San Jose, CA, USA) you wrote: TGM I for one appreciate the heads-up from Gerard. I forwarded the link TGM to the IT people at work since they use programs other than TB! :-( I downloaded it and installed it and am trying it. The downloaded part clogged all my ports so that nothing worked when trying to connect to anything outside(yahoo, msn, TB, IE) The attachment of the email part seems to work, without the download part. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.11.02 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X / \ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQMnxs22u7N+Qh+ieEQLp0QCgrXUDFClEzHaaOQdICK/jhTWwaywAoJM/ 9CJp7L9nQlIR/4c3Z84kmlyg =fcIr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Palm
On Friday, 11 Jun 2004 20:22 [+0400] Maxim Ryazanov wrote: MR Seems that yet not enough people have noticed that they need such MR functionality ;) Ops, missed the last summer discussion link itself: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg28070.html | From: Marcus Ohlstrom | Subject: Ever growing address book | Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:52:15 +0200 | Message-ID: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | In an attempt to reduce the size of my address book (currently around | 384KB), I deleted about 1000 addresses. Problem is the address book | didn't shrink, it's still as big as it was and still contains all | addresses I've deleted | .. `- -- / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: If you ever needed an excuse to use TB!
ON Friday, June 11, 2004, 5:45:10 PM, you wrote: TF While it is true that TB makes you imune, I wonder whether it is TF really necessary to advertise spammer tools on this list. Hi Thomas, It was hardly advertising and I do not believe in security by ignorance. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Golf is 20 percent mechanics and technique. The other 80 percent is philosophy, humor, tragedy, romance, melodrama, companionship, camaraderie, cussedness, and conversation. Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11.03 Really Slow on POP Retrieval
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alex, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, at 13:22:39 [GMT-0400] (which was 10:22:39 In San Jose, CA, USA) you wrote: AE FYI, I am using KAV Personal 5.0.124. I always vote for NOD32 from www.eset.com. It is external, hyper-fast and small in memory use. It also costs, but worth every penny. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.11.02 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X / \ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQMn7cG2u7N+Qh+ieEQIn2gCggQU945Yl5Qe/r/gYN9LSiY/AN/sAmgKe Uur9oseJefAdv/vBQcj7a0SB =zuRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.11.03 Really Slow on POP Retrieval
On Friday, June 11, 2004, 2:35:22 PM, Michael wrote: AE FYI, I am using KAV Personal 5.0.124. I always vote for NOD32 from www.eset.com. It is external, hyper-fast and small in memory use. It also costs, but worth every penny. Based on your email, I asked around the office and it seems a former employee purchased a NOD32 license for his PC, but he's no longer here. So, I uninstall it, call NOD32 and with some faxes and emails, I get the license transferred and now TB is working like a charm. Thanks! Maybe TB should stop supporting KAV so closely since the feeling doesn't seem to be mutual. -- Alex Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP sent-mail folder
Allie, On 11-06-2004 19:44, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM Peter Fjelsten wrote: I wonder if this _incredibly_ basic IMAP feature will ever be implemented. It sort of defies the point of IMAP if it doesn't work for outgoing mail. AM It's implemented but it's buggy. There are a few who aren't AM experiencing the buggy server side outbox that I am. I'd like a show of hands (Cf. prog rock trio Rush): for how many does this actually work? We have determined it does not work for the two of us. I have made a ticket in BT about his moons ago (actually that Drafts is missing as a folder - for running with Exchange) but it still hasn't been fixed. BTW does (IMAP) filtering from a local sent folder to an IMAP folder work for you? I get an error. AM My Sent folder is on the server while my Outbox is local. So Outgoing mail filters work? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.11.03 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP sent-mail folder
Hi Peter On Friday, June 11, 2004 22:13 your local time, which was 21:13 my local time, Peter Fjelsten [PF] wrote; AM It's implemented but it's buggy. There are a few who aren't AM experiencing the buggy server side outbox that I am. PF I'd like a show of hands (Cf. prog rock trio Rush): for how many does PF this actually work? Although it's hard to see from there, I've got my hand in the air! ;-) Server side Outbox causes issues here! -- Cheers, Chris In this case, I'm using IMAP with The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker dictionaries
Hello Ian, RA Good question! I have MS Office installed, with dictionaries, but TB! RA doesn't detect _any_ CSAPI dictionaries. I would love to know the answer. Interestingly, when I was using TB! 1.xx, I could not use the CSAPI dictionaries. After upgrading to TB! 2.xx, they suddenly started working (I am using Office 97). My experience is that TB will only detect CSAPI dictionaries from Office 97. For some time I used Office 2000 (as an upgrade to 97) and I had no problems. When I moved to Office XP I installed from scratch and TB could not see any CSAPI dictionaries. So, I uninstalled and then installed Word 97 with the desired dictionaries and then Office XP again and everything is working fine here. Why? I don't really know. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources - Solved!
Saturday, June 12, 2004, 3:21:08 AM, rich wrote: Woho! Not only is it not hogging CPU, but it is running *really* fast. Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! rg Was that Process Explorer product the one that pulled you out of the rg fire? I guess it pretty much was. It was the one that highlighted BayesIt. But I do not wish to detract from the splendiforous help from the TBUDLers involved. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Bonjour Alexandre, At 11:04 AM on Friday, June 11, 2004 you AV wrote the following Messages getting lost!!!: AV Jan, you must probably feel like one of the active members. I'm sorry AV if I have hurt you. Not at all but I do appreciate your apology. And I am/was sorry to hear about the inconvenience of losing your emails. But like I said, I think you would find this a very supportive group that functions well within the rules set by the moderatos who own the list. We all try to respect their few rules. As for your specific problem, I'm assuming that all your tbb tbi files were corrupted or something along those lines. All I can say on that subject is that, with all the bugs that TB! has presented over the years of my use, I have never had that happen to me. However, having said that, I'm still looking around for my address book from my last install I have yet to understand why I can't import certain common folders back into TB!. I guess the big difference is I know where the data is while you may not. That *is* frustrating. Good luck. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bug report - Runtime error when starting TB ver 2.11.x
Hi BatFolk I have just submitted my second bug report re TheBat!. With ver 2.11.x, but apparently not ver 2.10.x , I sometimes get Runtime error messages. Once the runtime messages start to appear, they keep appearing. I think it is only happening with ver 2.11.02. (Error message...'this application has requested the runtime to terminate in an unusual way...') Questions and comments: 1. I have no idea what runtime or runtime error messages (from 'Microsoft Virtual C++ Library) mean. 2. I just noticed that when you send a bug report to Ritlabs, a copy dose not automatically go to your 'sent' folder. 3. Has anyone else experienced Runtime error messages with ver 2.11.x or any other version?? 4. I know Ritlabs people are very busy..(as most of us are), but it would be nice to get at least an automated acknowledgement that they have received your report and will look at it... 5. Now for some black humour (as opposed to bitterness): The Bat may be a turbo charged V8, and lesser mailers (ThunderBird, Outlook Express, Outlook, Eudora, Pocomail, Lotus, Pegasus, Courier/Calypso etc...all of which I have used) may be like small capacity 4 cylinder engined cars in comparison, but the little car that goes is faster than the turbo V8 that won't start ;-) 6. Lest some die-hard TheBat devotees take offence at point '5', let me say that I have had very few problems with TheBat in the 2-3 years I have been using it. -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:05 Saturday, 12 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to use PGP/MIME
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Charles, On 11 June 2004, 15:04 +0200 (14:04 local time) Charles M. Gerungan [CMG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CMG I'm trying to get the PGP signature as an attachment, but how do I do CMG that? When I select PGP/MIME TheBat! tells me that there is no CMG certificate. Have you installed PGP Freeware (or similar), created your public/private keys, and set the correct PGP version in TB!? - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMozujknq5PWREYNEQLD+gCfcKatbBBgcsyWYvYZPgUeHsOzef0AoI0r qb4XNiS8GQforCIvcaF2lu9s =I08C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying text from source window (f9) not correct.
Hello Charles, On Friday, June 11, 2004, 1:22 PM, Charles M. Gerungan wrote: CMG When copying text, the copied text is shifted in position. Erm, great, CMG even I don't get this. Example. CMG The quick brown fox CMG When selecting quick, it pastes quic. Can anyone confirm this? Confirmed. -- Sean H. using TB! 2.11.03 on Windows XP Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP sent-mail folder
Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote: AM My Sent folder is on the server while my Outbox is local. So Outgoing mail filters work? Yes. Though I've been filtering to a local folder. I haven't tried filtering to server side folders. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.04 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp1QcejTtTm6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to use PGP/MIME
Hello Martin, Saturday, June 12, 2004, 12:35:33 AM, you wrote: MW On 11 June 2004, 15:04 +0200 (14:04 local time) Charles M. Gerungan MW [CMG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CMG I'm trying to get the PGP signature as an attachment, but how do I do CMG that? When I select PGP/MIME TheBat! tells me that there is no CMG certificate. MW Have you installed PGP Freeware (or similar), created your MW public/private keys, and set the correct PGP version in TB!? Yes, and I can sign just fine, exactly like you did. But I don't want to do it in plain sight, I want it attached. I use PGP 8.0. Which options should I select? I can select options from within TB, and once again from within the PGP popup. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to use PGP/MIME
Hello Charles, On Friday, June 11, 2004, at 02:26:09[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 17:26 where I live) Charles wrote: Charles I use PGP 8.0. Which options should I select? I can select options from Charles within TB, and once again from within the PGP popup. When you compose your mail, enable Privacy-Enable OpenPGP while disable Privacy-Enable S/MIME. -- Best regards, TB! 2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying text from source window (f9) not correct.
On Sat 12 June 2004, 9:17:29 +1000, Sean H. wrote: CMG When copying text, the copied text is shifted in position. Erm, great, CMG even I don't get this. Example. CMG The quick brown fox CMG When selecting quick, it pastes quic. Can anyone confirm this? Confirmed. But not confirmed here. I think you are both running v2.11.03 - perhaps its a beta problem that should be taken to the TBBeta list? -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying text from source window (f9) not correct.
Apologies, everyone. Previous message was intended for TBBeta. -- Sean H. using TB! 2.11.03 on Windows XP Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug report - Runtime error when starting TB ver 2.11.x
Hello SL, On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 08:20:32 +1000 GMT (12/06/2004, 05:20 +0700 GMT), SL wrote: S Questions and comments: S 1. I have no idea what runtime or runtime error messages (from S 'Microsoft Virtual C++ Library) mean. Runtime error means an error ocurred while the program was running (as popposed to syntax error, which will be found when compiling). TB is written in Delphi, not C++. The error message does not mean TB, it means one of the plugins. I guess BayesIt. Many people have reported erroneous behaviour with this plugin. I wish it weren't included in the distro. Uninstall BayesIt from your TB, restart, and watch whether you still get runtime errors. If so, it was one of the other plugins. S 2. I just noticed that when you send a bug report to Ritlabs, a copy S dose not automatically go to your 'sent' folder. If you want bug reports to reach Ritlabs, you'd better use the bugtracker: www.ritlabs.com/bt/ But they don't write the plugins, so they can't help you. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Was ist ein Optimist ? - Jemand der das eine Fernsehprogramm langweilig findet und auf das andere umschaltet! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying text from source window (f9) not correct.
Hello Robin, On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:39:38 +1000 GMT (12/06/2004, 07:39 +0700 GMT), Robin Anson wrote: CMG When selecting quick, it pastes quic. Can anyone confirm this? Confirmed. RA But not confirmed here. I think you are both running v2.11.03 - perhaps RA its a beta problem that should be taken to the TBBeta list? I can confirm with 2.11, the relase version. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Apple - Typically a device to seduce men, usually equipped with a display screen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:IMAP sent-mail folder
Hi Peter, I'd like a show of hands (Cf. prog rock trio Rush): for how many does this actually work? Not here it doesn't. Can't use TB/IMAP for sending mail at all reliably. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.11.02 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
