Re: Is IMAP still limited support in The Bat?
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:02:44 +1000 Gonzalo Servat (GS) wrote: Have you take a look sylpheed (google please g) ? You can share the (POP) mail folder for sylpheed under linux/bsd/mac/sun/hpux and windows32 even with your Mutt. I'm not sure what you mean by share the POP mail folder for Sylpheed under linux/bsd/mac/win32 even with your Mutt? After trying IMAP for months, I prefer to use POP instead of IMAP and I put all of my mail folder on network drive (I did this since TB! 1.1x). Now I am running multi O/S, so I need mailer which run on multi O/S too. By sharing mail folder, I can switch from one O/S to another in my LAN without need to redownload mail from server. I can also share the address book, while filtering procmail doing the job well. Sylpheed use MH format, and happily now Mutt also support MH, so when I travel I can login to my own server using shell account and run Mutt. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is IMAP still limited support in The Bat?
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:58:43 +1000 Gonzalo Servat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried Sylpheed-Claws Sylpheed and they both got stuck trying to sync 900+ messages. Maybe I should just delete 90% of them :) What version you were using it ? Since 0.8.3 sylpheed have new cache and very fast. My daily traffic now around 4000 messages/day, have no problem with it, even when getting mail from home (Dial Up Connection) :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is IMAP still limited support in The Bat?
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:59:37 +1000 Gonzalo Servat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll stick around on the mailing list and wait impatiently for v2. This is probably the wrong place to ask but are there any other mail clients for Windows that handle IMAP well and are customizable? At least until v2 is out then I'll buy me a license :) I'm really sick of Outlook :) Have you take a look sylpheed (google please g) ? You can share the (POP) mail folder for sylpheed under linux/bsd/mac/sun/hpux and windows32 even with your Mutt. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Delete Certain Messages
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:26:35 +0545 Sudip Pokhrel (SP) wrote: This is exactly what I want to achieve but in a message level, not folder level i.e. I don't want to delete *all messages* in a folder after certain # of days. OTOH, I don't want to keep these 'other messages' forever either so parking them is out of the question. So, Allie's suggestion of manual filter is perfect for me. However, if TB! had an option to invoke a filter upon start/exit, it would have been excellent :))) Much better if having folder filter. TB! has Account Template and folder template, why not account filter plus folder filter :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check?
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 06:16:22 -0700 Lynn Turriff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... ] The highest percentage by far comes in labeled Outlook or OE... but I'll eat my trackball if anybody ever filters on Outlook. I did in my office server. I made Outlook Filtering since last 2-years for any of /outgoing/ messages from our office staff. No one can use Outlook in my office :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:34:22 +0200 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bet the real reason why I sort on Date Create is that when I started using TB back in January and imported my 7-8 years worth of e-mail from my previous client, all imported messages were marked as received on the date they were imported. Some 30,000 messages all received on the same date and same time. Aha...as I said sometimes conditions make us choose the best method available for us. Like me now, because my mouse broke (my PC at home) since Friday night, I must use keyboard only to run my Mailer (also when I write this message) :-( -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:22:06 +0200 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can never guarantee that they arrive chronologically though. Email is a funny thing That is exactly why I view threads by reference and sort by created date and not by received as I believe you said you do :) He..he..he..I know why you prefer that, I do the same when running Mercury in the past or using download base on message size feature in MDaemon or retchmail :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:40:59 +0200 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He..he..he..I know why you prefer that,... 'Cause it's the *right* way to do it ;-) If you're using other MTA, you will say sort by receiving date is the right way, in that way you will never depending on time clock accuracy of sender PC :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Macro and Solutions Library
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:52:58 -0500 Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does get my attention is your amazingly long introductory statement. It's like a paragraph. I agree ;-) Me thinks that's going a tad overboard, especially in the interest of our recurring theme of avoiding unnecessary bandwidth wastage. My point is not bandwidth waste, but because no greetings delimiter available g...but I am glad selective reply features already available in TB! :-)` -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:56:07 -0500 Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SH If you're using other MTA, you will say sort by receiving date SH is the right way, in that way you will never depending on time SH clock accuracy of sender PC :-) I've tried both methods and for prolonged durations. They both fail at times but the received time is far more reliable for me so I use received time, though I hide that column in the message list. I guess each persons experience may very well differ. Yupe but sometimes our MTA setting and limitation make us do what the best we can have. For instance MDaemon users who use DomainPOP configuration and activate download base on message size (less size first) make your threading by reference will look bad (same happen with me now, if I enable that feature in retchmail). Mercury have the limitation in time stamping when more than one messages come in same (nearest) time, people who use Mercury and MUA which not having receiving date field will not aware about this, but not TB! users who often use Threading Mode g. Other case when our primary MX busy and the message must go to secondary MX first (one of some others reason why I set thebat.dutaint.com domain only have single MX). -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The defualt file extension in Attachment Save Dialog
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:47:06 +0700 Thomas F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Does anybody know how I can set the language in the message list other than with the Regional setting? After all, my reply RegEx still works fine with English months (see above). Add en after the %macro name, for instance %DOWen, or completely using Regex avoid %macro. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 11:12:25 +0100 Adam Rykala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what he meant to say was ...Who have access to e-mail but not the www. Yupe, it is common in big company. fwn If that is the case, I consider subscribing to TB* lists using fwn such a company email address is impolite. I suggest to unsub fwn this kind of user from TB* lists. One should use this kind of fwn account for his job related correspondences only. and if that company uses The Bat! for email It is up to the company to mandate email usages, not us. That's the fact, unless the company your owned :-) I saw on a lot of SMER company, there is Mail only no browsing/proxy installed/allowed. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:35:47 +0200 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be brief to be consistent with my bandwidth conservation campaign. So what! ;-) Maybe you may consider to create specific filter which only download body text (content) without message header, or strip out some headers on the fly while download messages :- -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:58:45 +0200 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you do not like brief one-liners that are to the point but prefer to receive long verbose messages? ;-) I agree with you, percentages can be quite tricky :-) Yupe, that's why Moderators not activate quote percentage restriction on this list :-) BTW. How many percent your filter give false positive result (at least at your point of view) ? -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:00:38 +0200 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither Winamp nor WinZip could determine which X-mailer was used to .. BTW. How many percent your filter give false positive result (at least at your point of view) ? I would say 20 to 50% ;-) And you need type in bla...bla...bla text as above to make your own posting not filter by your junk filter ? LOL! -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:25:02 +0200 Jernej Simonèiè [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SP Keeping the subscribe/unsubscribe footers as it is will benefit SPthose who have an access to email but not the Internet. TF I've tried that. For some reason I have never managed to receive TF or send emails without access to the internet. What am I doing TF wrong? I think what he meant to say was ...Who have access to e-mail but not the www. Yupe, it is common in big company. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Server
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 02:17:22 -0400 Hexdump [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... ] Some programs install themselves as services, such as Argo's mail server, but neither I nor my friend can find a way to do it manually. This can be done using INSTSRV.EXE and SRVANY.EXE, which if I remember correctly were part of the NT resource kit. Use Freeware Firedaemon (see http://www.firedaemon.com), I got permission from developer to put on my ftp server, but old version (I didn't make link upgrade with him) ftp://ftp.dutaint.co.id/ftpserv-u/util/firedaemon_0_07b.exe -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
test #1, please ignore
Hello tbudl, Please ignore, , -- Syafril === mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
test #2, please ignore
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test #3, please ignore
SGVsbG8gdGJ1ZGwsDQoNClRlc3QgIzMsIHBsZWFzZSBpZ25vcmUg/Pz8/Cwg9vb29vb29vYNCg0K LS0gDQpTeWFmcmlsDQo9PT09PT09DQptYWlsdG86c3lhZnJpbEBkdXRhaW50LmNvLmlk Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test #1, please ignore
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:09:57 +0100 Bernd Gauweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SH Please ignore, , What's all that junk with test messages posted lately? Can't people send a message to themselves or to a good buddy for test purposes? Sorry, I am too lazy to create new $listname which have actually same setting as TBUDL has, no time for it... at least now :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: test #1, please ignore
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:26:25 +0100 Bernd Gauweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SH Sorry, I am too lazy I don't think you have a very strong argument here. You're obviously not too lazy annoying everybody with your test messages. Really ? I just want friends from Europe or anyone who use upper 127 Character Set (such Umlauts ü) on his Real Name not making garbage text when posting to this list. For now it only work 80%, maybe my interpretation of rfc-2047 still wrong or I made wrong patch while changing the ecartis/listar source code. Have you read RFC2047 and understand the whole content ? if yes maybe you can help me. Understanding of gcc compiler will be a plus, hence you can help me to make the right patch. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: test #1, please ignore
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:01:44 +0100 Bernd Gauweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ...] Even so, I still think any test message to the list is bad manners. Then how did I know my changes being work ? There is not a single day without 20-ish messages about spam filtering. Presumably, because people have trouble handling the number of unwanted messages they receive. You're lucky have TB! as the tools, I myself have no trouble handling my traffic more than 4000 messages/day, even in Dial Up Connection :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test #1, please ignore
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:06:09 +0200 St - Musaic.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I am too lazy to create new $listname which have actually same setting as TBUDL has, no time for it... at least now :-) WHAT!?! FUCK IT!!! Do you want me to completely banned you from TB! list ? -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test #1, please ignore
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:19:11 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ...] I suggest you change your trash filter to filter test subjects but *not* Syafril. You may miss important service announcements. Not so important for anyone who not using upper 127 character set. For now, I just made a bit fixed, i.e. for whom using upper 127 character set either on Real Name (such Marcus Ohlström) or on body text, I suggest not using MIME base64, instead use Quote Printable (QP) or No MIME (in TB! setting, set it without change). That all for now. BTW. I can make the Content Transfer Encoding keep intact, but that make the list footer disappear. Maybe later, after rfc-2047 being revised :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test #1, please ignore
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:29:11 +0200 Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ...] Is it only the quite nice weather now - or the really bad one last week - that seems to deteriorate our manners lately (mine included)? Maybe it is. Last week Philip Hazel from Cambridge Univ. UK (author of Exim MTA) mentioned not to use uncivilized words like that on his list, Wietse Venema from Netherlands (author of Postfix) will at sudden said you're dead :-( -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
List Maintener Announcement [ cross post]
Dear all List Member, [ this is cross post to all TB! list under domain thebat.dutaint.com ] We have change the bounce watcher on this list, to be more accurate. As reflect of this changes, Ecartis (aka Listar) will seen all bounce messages as Fatal Bounce (in the past we have 2 category : Fatal and transient or temporary error bouncing). If messages from TB! list getting bounce x times, Ecartis/Listar will automatically unsubscribe your membership. I have set the x as follows : - tbudl = 20 - tbbeta= 15 - tbtech= 15 - tbindo= 15 I know this tools more concern to List Moderators/Owner to make them more easy to life g, but in case auto unsubscribe happen to you then you know the answer. Noted: VIP person will exempt from auto unsusbcribe (ask Moderators who they are and if you want to be VIP he..he..he..). -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Abuse Notice - Email sent to TBUDL ?
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 at 09:26 GMT -0500 (15/07/2002 21:26 where you think I live) Greg Strong=[GS] wrote to TBUDL : I am receiving notices of abuse on email sent to the TBUDL. As an example I have included one of the notices in the forwarded message below. There might not be anything wrong with your mail...but... Your relay [63.99.209.9] home.worldless.net ^^ the notification not correct, home.worldless.net have ip address 203.130.233.9, seems his script not working accurate :-( is well known for relaying of spam - your mail is blocked or simply deleted at server stage. This message mentioned that one of your relay host with ip [63.99.209.9] known as one source of spammers. All of your posting seems through this host (check your header please). You can check out the link below : More info: http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=63.99.209.9 Please do not use relay through this SMTP, or notify to your ISP to not using this server as relay host. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: SMTP server report
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:07:00 -0500 Jonathan E. Brickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With MERCURY/32 I need to use ClickOff for autominimization, but that is a tiny inconvenience compared to the benefit. Try 3rd party dial up utility that cames with Mercury/32. See under folder /mercury/util (not remember precisely the name, sorry). -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SMTP server report
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:35:49 -0500 Jonathan E. Brickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a caching-only DNS server they like for Win32 ??? IIRC lot of Mercury users using DNSplus, but the better one is BIND 4.9.8 porting by Kahn (see www.isc.org), it is run under win9x too (if you're using NT or W2K, the DNS is built in). -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SMTP server report
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 at 17:06 GMT -0500 (15/07/2002 5:06 where you think I live) Jonathan Angliss=[JA] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Even on Cox Cablevision's broadband, sometimes the DNS response is slow. And using a modem, DNS is immensely better if one runs a caching-only nameserver on the local machine. I can understand using a caching-only DNS server, saves repeatitive lookups, hence time... but you still have to do the initial lookup. You may want to look into trying other DNS servers if your ISP is slow at responding. Which I guess is what you're doing now ;) I agree, try your neighbor ISP DNS server might help :-) I can understand the need of DNS cache for Mercury users, because Mercury doesn't have his own cache as MDaemon or most Linux MTA have. But IMHO DNS Forwader more appropriate especially for ADSL/Cable users, querying to root DNS takes a lot of times sometimes. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: garbage characters
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 at 19:54 GMT +1000 (27/06/2002 16:54 where you think I live) Tim=[T] wrote to TBUDL : Can someone tell me: Where are the characters being messed up (TB! receiving, Eudora sending, mail server transferring)? Message encoding. Is there anything I can do in TB! to fix this? Ask Ritlabs to support Enrich Text Format. Is there anything I can tell the sender to do in Eudora to fix this? Do not send message using Enrich Text format, and disable use format as sender use (or something like that), always use pure plaintext. Both sender and receiver are in Australia, writing in Australian English, but the problem text is often copied from Word files created by Japanese or Korean authors. MS Family (including when Word or Wordpad set as editor) using RTF as default enrich text format, on this case TB! will see as TNEF (the generic name of MS RTF) you will see an attachment winmail.dat when receive this message. But Pegasus and Eudora see that as Enrich Text, so when she reply or forward it does maintain the format by default (he feel right, but actually no). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60q under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: IMAP login
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 at 13:06 GMT +0200 (26/06/2002 18:06 where you think I live) Markus Gloede=[MG] wrote to TBUDL : Does anyone here know how to configure TB to perform a login to an Exchange Server (on NT4) using IMAP? TB is running on NT4, sp6, and with administrator rights. I have heard from a user (not on this list) who is having problems trying to login. I can only give hints. Does the Exchange server require NT authentication, this could be a problem. Also, even when authenticating via regular IMAP it might be required to use the full domain/mailbox path (e.g. /NTdomain/Exchange Alias or NTdomain/domain userID/Exchange Alias) in the user name field. Experimenting with the user name might help. Also try to use NTLM as protocol for access (I use this in my test Visnectic Mail Server and seems TB! support NTLM2 well). BTW. Maybe Graham Foster is the right person to answer this because he use TB! IMAP connect to Exchange server since beginning, but he is not in this list, IIRC he only subscribe on TBBETA and TBTECH. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60q under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 at 21:49 GMT -0700 (25/06/2002 11:49 where you think I live) Nick Andriash=[NA] wrote to TBUDL : Vehemently disagree. The world is not moving to unified messaging. The world is moving back to a Unix-like concept of small, tight applications doing very specific tasks -- Not that I am in favour of a TB Newsgroup, but I have to strongly disagree with your statement. The world is moving away from single use appliances and going for the 'unified' concept... but without the bloat... as the wary consumer will not stand for that anymore. IMHO both of you are correct (at least part of it) :-). The word bloat sometimes hard to implement, depending the program design though. Some s/w using monolithic design (all in one) but others (said) using modular, each having own benefit. Modular make any piece of s/w can be run in stand alone (and develop by other people) or call each others, as far as you don't care about the GUI, Modular is the best choice (every developer having their taste of GUI). Monolithic in other side have all in one structure, more consistent in GUI or others (shortcut for instance). Which one do you like ? While in linux, I can compile any features as many as I want (more or less), I can even adding any patch from anybody...I can do that because most of them are Open Source, I can change the code and recompile (even sometimes make nice crash or running slow :-. Maybe plug-in is the answer for Windows world, but TB! must prepare the Interface for other program (maybe something like SDK or API to call other application and back), assume TB! using modular concept otherwise Ritlabs must develop from scratch. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60q under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: Watch thread?
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:57:35 +0100 Ben Kennish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK campaign started. Anyone who wants a watch thread feature in TB!, reply with Aye! Aye! :-) -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: The Bat! as an NT service
On Sat, 25 May 2002 09:25:22 -0300 Ricardo M. Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Any experience using The Bat! as a service under Windows NT / 2k MW server? no, but TB is not a service. How do you want to do it? Someday in the past I run TB! as Service in NT4 Server, I was using Firedaemon to run it as Service. And, if you don't mind, why do you want to do it? At that time I used it to check message live on my Mail Server (MDaemon), if message live more than certain days, TB! will remove it. I remove it after my Mail Server have this feature built in. -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: symultaneus pop3 check
On Sat, 25 May 2002 09:23:36 +0100 Julian Beach (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be good if there could be a way of extending the timeout period in TB. I think that I would have had this problem in Outlook, but since the timeout was 1 minute, it was rarely a problem. As far as the POP3 Server supporting NOOP command TB! will have no time out problem. If not, manual time out setting as Outlook does will help. -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
On Sun, 26 May 2002 01:18:29 +0700 Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACM MDaemon here can be configured to use an SMTP host in the sense ACM that it delivers mail to another SMTP server, usually your ISP ACM SMTP server instead of doing a direct delivery. OK then, why would I need MDaemon in the first place? Depending on your need though :-) These are some benefit for Dial Up users : - While sending mail to more than one recipient : MDaemon only create one session connection (single mail with multiple address). - We can set auto compress if message larger than x KB (x = configurable). - First attempt delivery go directly to MX Recipient, if failed send to relay host. - Download mail from DomainPOP mailbox base on message size (smaller first). - Remote Configuration through mail command (change password, set/unset auto forward etc). -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
On Fri, 24 May 2002 13:21:58 +0100 Ray Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that when I connect to one ISP I can't get TB to send all email in the various Outboxes through the smtp server of the ISP I'm logged on to. If I click on 'Send All' TB tries to connect to the smtp servers of each ISP that I have outgoing email from - and somewon't allow access if I'm not connected to them. How can I configure TB to 'Send all queued email in all Outboxes via the smtp of the ISP which we are connected to'? Unless you run your own SMTP Server, the best think I can think of is using WinGate SMTP Proxy. All of account set to send to Wingate's ip address, and in Wingate's tcp/smtp mapping you may set each ISP SMTP map to their Dial Up Profile. I am not sure if Wingate lite (free version) can do this, but at least Standard Version have this capability. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SMTP servers
On Fri, 24 May 2002 20:22:39 +0700 Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that when I connect to one ISP I can't get TB to send all email in the various Outboxes through the smtp server of the ISP I'm logged on to. If I click on 'Send All' TB tries to connect to the smtp servers of each ISP that I have outgoing email from - and somewon't allow access if I'm not connected to them. Oops.. my bad day, just change distro, recompile and forgot activate Word Wrap, sorry folk. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
On Wed, 22 May 2002 03:18:53 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Paul Wilson on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [ ... ] Newsgroups? Personally, I don't read them! Life is too short. If the user base really wants a NewsGroup and to disband this list I will resign as moderator. Period. Even I can run News Server connected to current List Server on this HOST, but I will not to do that. Please find another server, I don't want to host it, sorry. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Administrator and List Maintainer. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Pop/Smtp authentication
On Tue, 21 May 2002 at 07:55 GMT -0500 (21/05/2002 19:55 where you think I live) Jonathan Angliss=[JA] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : How many people do you know that try doing reverse lookups on domain names/ip addresses in email headers? Not many I know of. This is be trend lately, my Server does check Sender Domain, RDNS and HELO/EHLO command from MTA Sender. For me, this is not just to prevent /real/ spammer but also from deception viruses such Klez. There is articles why someone do this from other POV : http://www.tzo.com/mainpagetext/ProblemSendingEmail.html http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article/0,,8_976831,00.html And last but not least, an opinion from one List Administrator of known list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : ---begin copy--- From : Steve Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : Wednesday, February 20, 2002, 10:10:00 PM Subject: PTR records PS - note the difference between the SMTP Sender's domain and whether it exists and the IP address of the sending host (which could be quite different, as in messages from a mailing list). I used to block messages from IP addresses that didn't resolve (PTR lookup) but got too many complaints from people who couldn't mail us and had no control over their ISP's setup - often big ISPs got their DNS PTR records wrong! However, we still insist that the SMTP sender domain exists in the DNS, on the grounds that (auto)replies may not work unless the domains are correct. I think we also insist that header line sender addresses are resolvable too (again to ensure replies work). Cheers, Steve ---end copy--- BTW. I didn't activate RDNS for home.worldless.net. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60m under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Pop/Smtp authentication
On Wed, 22 May 2002 at 06:01 GMT -0500 (22/05/2002 18:01 where you think I live) Jonathan Angliss=[JA] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : BTW. I didn't activate RDNS for home.worldless.net. Have you enabled it now? Seems to rDNS very well to me. No because it's fine for you and me but not others :-) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60m under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?
On Wed, 22 May 2002 at 22:16 GMT +0200 (23/05/2002 3:16 where you think I live) Roelof Otten=[RO] wrote to Miguel A. Urech : You're forgetting that TB is an e-mail client... MAU I follow a few newsgroups with TB! :) So do I. That's the point. So we agree the point is we prefer to read using TB!. I have to do complicated things to be able follow newsgroups with TB. Even my mailer in Linux (Sylpheed Claws) having News capability, but I saw more and more people run leafnode (tiny news server) and access news through local folder instead directly contact remote news server using news protocol. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60m under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Pop/Smtp authentication
On Tue, 21 May 2002 09:05:18 +0100 Christopher Taylor-Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Others have suggested a local SMTP service which I hadn't even thought of, so I will investigate and see if any of them will work with my ADSL router (the free one requires a direct connection). Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 You are using XP eh.., you can activate IIS-SMTP then. IMHO IIS SMTP5 quite OK. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Relaying list messages in trouble?
On Tue, 21 May 2002 12:37:58 +0200 Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is something funny going on with this list, lately I very often get replies to messages I have yet to see. One example is the still current threat About 'TO:', of which I got some answers in the morning that were totally unintelligible to me because I haven't seen the answer. Until just a few minutes ago ... This is not a problem on my machine, it could be with GMX, but I doubt it. It looks much more like something with DUTAINT. Contact me off list and give the complete message header you feel problem (MIME forwarding will OK). -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Pop/Smtp authentication
On Tue, 21 May 2002 13:15:27 +0100 Christopher Taylor-Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You are using XP eh.., you can activate IIS-SMTP then. IMHO IIS SMTP5 quite OK. Is that installed as a standard part of Windows XP Professional? There is nothing resembling it in my list of services. Include in XP Pro but not default install, you need to add from Control Panel| Add/Remove Program | Windows Component. -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Re[2]: Pop/Smtp authentication
On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:28:35 -0400 DG Raftery Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Christopher Taylor-Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry to say it but it can be very unsecure if one is not up on IIS security, can be a pain after install if you let IIS install to default directories and then wish to change the directory pointers and the most common complaint with IIS, that I have seen, is that after install many have problems starting IIS services and get numerous errors as to why the services won't start even though the dependencies are operational. I didn't try IIS SMTP5 under XP myself, but I used it under W2K Pro when I still used Windows at home. This week I have been made SMTP Stress Test for some MTA either under Win or Linux and one of them is IIS SMTP combine with Mail Essentials under W2K Advance Server, it can accept 5.8 msg/seconds while bombing with 500 messages from other PC, not bad IMHO. If you are using ADSL or Cable connection, you may run own MTA using IIS SMTP combine with dynamic DNS services such DNS2GO or such. There is free POP3 daemon we can use with IIS SMTP (I forgot the links and the name you may googling it, maybe still in my FTP server somewhere in /freeware directory). -- syafril --- Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting messages from BAT and Linux alternative?
On Sun, 19 May 2002 08:58:56 -0500 Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great graphical MUA for Linux is Sylpheed (vailable at: http://sylpheed.good-day.net/) or its bleeding edge branch, sylpheed-claws (from http://sylpheed-claws.sourceforge.net/). I'd suggest the sylpheed-claws version. I run this myself at home. Very good. The filtering setup works pretty well. Yupe, and you will find many ex TB! user there :-) -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting messages from BAT and Linux alternative?
On Sun, 19 May 2002 09:05:52 -0500 Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See the other two posts on possible alternate clients... Personally I use Sylhpeed-Claws... very nice little client. As for getting your mail into Unix clients, there are two main folder types used... MH (which is an individual file for each mail), or Berkley mbox (which is just one single flat file with all messages in). Just one note : Sylpheed (either Vanilla and main branch Claws or other) still in unstable status, don't expect too much at this time :-). There is also windows version ported by Munesato-san (http://www2.odn.ne.jp/munesato/sylpheed/ or if you need English translation go here http://www.teletranslator.com:8120 and put the Japanese URL there. BTW. Seems to me you need to activate either Smart Wrap (soft wrap) and Wrap quotation/before sending (hard wrap). I remember one of big name people in Linux World special complaint to Sylpheed list regarding this stuff last February 2002 :-) IIRC Hiroyuki-san has been response by making hard wrap enable by default since 0.7.5. -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Exporting messages from BAT and Linux alternative?
On Sun, 19 May 2002 08:59:36 -0500 Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's always the option of running TB under Wine. I've tried... many times... trust me ;) Unless you have managed to get it working, I'd love to know how. I failed to run under Wine too, but VMware seems working but take a lot of resources more than I expect. -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Archives?
On Sun, 19 May 2002 11:58:41 -0500 Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The archives, however, don't seem to exist beyond about May 9th. Are you sure ? I just checked, it is updated. Am I missing something or did the list just start getting archived 10 days ago? Maybe you need to force refresh (shift plus refresh key) so your proxy will update the cache. -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Archives?
On Sun, 19 May 2002 12:22:27 -0500 Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scrolling down the page, the earliest message was dated May 5th, 2002. Surely there's more somewhere? Have you press Shift key while clicking refresh/reload menu ? -- syafril = Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Diagnose filter
On Sun, 5 May 2002 11:22:24 -0500 (CDT) Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MDP You have blocked your X-Mailer header As far as I know... pine doesn't appear to put in an X-Mailer header... not that I've noticed anyway... check on this email, and you'll find out. Correct. Actually, if you look at the Msg-ID header, you'll notice Pine in it... True - in the message ID. But is that a Pine MUA or an MTA? Whatever... As far as I remember... Pine is an MUA only... pine sticks it's own Msg-ID in... most MTAs respect that... again... check on this email... I'm running Pine, with Sendmail. Under linux not BSD nor Solaris :-) -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB does not download messages sent to my Yahoo! address.
On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:19:35 +0100 Jernej Simonèiè [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: j Although I can view my messages when connected to the Yahoo! mail site, j TB does not download them? Is this due to settings of TB or my Yahoo! j e-mail address? Didn't Yahoo close it's POP3/SMTP access recently? He will do that next 24 April 2002, not now. -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB does not download messages sent to my Yahoo! address.
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:54:35 +1100 John Phillips[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Yahoo close it's POP3/SMTP access recently? He will do that next 24 April 2002, not now. No advice yet to this effect from yahoo.com.au mailboxes. It's a matter of time or you are lucky guy :-) -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Myrealbox (slightly off topic)
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:40:40 +0100 Ottar Grimstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OG I have however not been able to connect to them since march OG 24.th. WM No problem accessing my (three) mailboxes. I have not changed my setup. I cannot reach the mailserver with The Bat or with telnet. I cannot access their website with a browser or telnet. I also cannot reach www.novell.com who is running this service. Perhaps it is a routing problem with my ISP-provider? I will contact them - but anyway - I have changed the account I use for The Bat, and it stays that way for a while. I just add a little info, your address on myrealbox not bounce, so all of your messages still there. -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Line length and inbox-known
On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:34:14 -0800 Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACM Pegasus has the ability to reflow sender paragraphs when quoting ACM them. What it did was to reflow you're quoted material, but ACM unlike TB!, it doesn't recognise initialed quote prefixing. It ACM therefore treated it like part of the paragraph text and ACM reflowed the prefixes with the text. Perfect explanation Allie! Okay, I'll take that into account. And I'll try out Lars' suggestion with the maco, although that will need some studying ;-) One thing you may want to do, just to be compatible with the widest range of other people's mailers, is to use the standard quote prefix ( ) instead of a sender's initials. To change that for each account, under Account Properties/Templates/Reply, choose none. Initial Prefix is really bitten a lot of other MUA out there :-) My mailer developer just response this conditions last 2 weeks, it does recognize quote prefix more better now :-) -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Myrealbox (slightly off topic)
On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:39:03 +0100 Ottar Grimstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But how can I unsubscribe from the old address when I no longer can get in touch with the server? Simply Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell what address you want to unsubscribe. -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: Feature wish: Editor improvement
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:31:58 -0500 Carsten Guthardt-Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: Is there a way to get the attributes *bold* /italic/ and _underlined_ showed in TB? Is this on the wish list? SH SH Already does in TB! beta, using Rich Text Viewer. It's coloring :-) I'm using Beta46, can't see anything using the RT Viewer. *Does this appear bold anywhere?* _Or this underlined?_ Not in underline, bold etc, but coloring such this text appears in red this text appears in pink -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: How can I shut off ONLY ONE of my two TBUDL email streams and still be able to post to TBUDL?
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:18:57 -0500 Daniel Grunberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to turn off the duplicate messages from TBUDL, but I'd still like to be able to post to TBUDL. What should I do? Can you send me off list both message (which duplicate) by using MIME Forwading, and address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Why do my macros....
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:35:04 +1100 John Phillips[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No attachment allowed in TBUDL :-) What about the beta list - saw one there earlier tonight. For TBBETA, attachment allowed, also for HTML and others IOW no restriction unless message size, it is for testing purpose. TBTECH also have no restriction, but the size limit less than TBBETA. -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 02:18:21 +0100 Mrten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, so what do you do if you want to quote several blocks (with lines in between that you don't want to quote)? After quoting one block, you can't go back to the preview or message window, select another block and quote it again with F4. i do not understand what the trouble is with just replying (and thus quoting the complete message) and then deleting the blocks you don't need to reply to while you type. Sometimes we need it if replying message which the answer on top of quote or message which doesn't have sig separator while the signature and greetings long enough. On those case selective reply very useful. IMHO, selective reply in my mailer a bit different, I just select the text I want to requote then Ctrl-R (or click reply) it does the job. At first I feel TB! way more better, but later on Sylpheed way more convenient for me, more simple and consistent (always use same key for reply). BTW: Is there a way to get the attributes *bold* /italic/ and _underlined_ showed in TB? Is this on the wish list? Already does in TB! beta, using Rich Text Viewer. It's coloring :-) yuc. messages with the reply-marker '' prepended should be bold, and that's it, no more formatting. this ain't HTML, baby! i've seen mozilla-mail doing just that, and it really sucks. just try to imagine it while reading. if you need formatting to get your message across, you should consider rephrasing your message. My mailer do that as well, till I change the default font(True Type) to monospace, no problem for coloring after that :-) which gets me to another favourite of mine: the initials (or, even worse, the complete name!) before the '' marker. it really sucks for people that do not use TB. The problem is other mailer can not control quote wrap. Suppose the default column of ours different than sender makes quoting look bad. For coloring matter, not like TB! most mailer out there can not control how many character from left the tag quote () will affect the coloring system. Most mailer out there using softwrap while typing (something like AutoFormat and autowrap in TB!), hardwrap only while sending, we can not control the hard wrap. I feel the way TB! do is the best! it's What You See Is What You Send, someday all mailer will do like this :-) -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Digest bursting
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:32:57 -0600 Nick Danger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll admit to being a digest neophyte, so I was wondering if TB! can do this or not: Does anyone know of an MS-Windows mail reader that handles standard digest bursting? In certain degree TB! can handle MIME Digest without problem, I subscribe some list in MIME digest. IIRC OE and Pegasus also support it as well. -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Tick Mark on envelope {was Checking for mail automatically}
On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 at 07:45 GMT +0530 (04/03/2002 9:15 where you think I live) Raj=[R] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : I just noticed the mail from Claude Renaud with subject Checking for mail automatically creates a 'tick mark' on the envelope icon. It also had an invalid signature message. What does the tick mark indicate ??? There is attachment on his message (seems like S/mime) but my office server remove it so I didn't see it. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/45 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TB won't open a message
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 13:52:10 + Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else got the same issue with that message? Can anyone shed some light on why this happens? It was produced with 1.54 beta 45 and reads perfectly with 1.54 beta 45. That may well be the explanation (there have been big S/MIME changes in the 1.54 betas). Yuke, I believe so. I don't believe the list engine appended something (converting 8-bit MIME to plain-text yes, also strippe attachment but not appended) :-) -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Re[2]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:47:20 +0100 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the (various) intros in messages, although I use the pure, short, informational one only. I don't mind the intros themselves. Although I hardly really pay attention to any of them, some of them are funny. But they do add to the foot print also, don't they? More foot print means what ? Which the power of TB! to autodelete signature when reply, long signature will no problem. Or use selective reply, so even replying messags without uncorrect signature separator or very long greetings no problem for me. If you're talking about message size that affect time to download msg from POP3 (concern of people who use Dial Up which pay by minute), this list already restrict the size so that big size message will not allow post to the list. If you are talking about bandwith waste, I think it is me concern about that, that's why this list restrict message size. -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Re[4]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:05:20 +0100 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More foot print means what ? More bytes than needed. Longer transmission time no matter how fast it is; more storage space required; more time needed for backups; more time when doing searches on the message base; more... everything. You can set kill filter to restrict POP msg size, set it as lower as you wish, then you will get...nothing :-) I don't think this discussion is in possitive direction, can we stop this thread ? -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Re[6]: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 19:39:28 +0100 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can set kill filter to restrict POP msg size, set it as lower as you wish, then you will get...nothing :-) No, I won't do that. But I wish I could set up a filter to just extract _significant_ text out of messages and leave all superfluous and redundant stuff out. That's it possitive thinking, let's discuss on this direction. The way our mailer will do in our control, we can do what we want. Blaming the world is wasting time. I don't think this discussion is in possitive direction, Depends on what you consider positive. If we disagree on what superfluous and redundant means, we may as well disagree on what positive means. See above. can we stop this thread ? You can set up a filter to throw any further messages on this thread to your trash bin. ;-) Oh I can do more than that if I want. As List Administrator of this list I can banned posting base on subject or other criterion at Listserver level, and as postmaster for this host I can banned you in SMTP Level. But it is not my attitude to blame the world, but if you need prove that I can banned your domain, tell me than I will do that right away. -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a message)
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:17:49 +0100 Ian Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forget the most important (IMO) issue: Unneccessary intros, felicitations, quoting, cookies and sigs simply make the actual message content harder to find, slower to read and more difficult to comprehend. Especially on high volume mailing-lists, such as this, every unneccessary byte makes the list just a little less useful or enjoyable. Actually I am agree with you, the message content is more important than greetings, sigs and others. From the archive you may seen that we have discuss about that, and in one occasion I even recommend not to use TO : Real-Name$list-address format nor Initial quote tag (IP) on *public list* NOT on TB! list. One of the power of TB! is the template creation, this making TB! user to use his creation to expand the possibilities, please let them to exersize that on his community. For others, treat this as a chalange and ask and discuss this on this list how to avoid this situation, because maybe we meet this situation on other public list someday. Please be open mind and be gentle, don't blame the world, by that we will enrich our experience each others. -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (Newbie alert!) Multiple mailto: addresses.
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 at 14:55 GMT +0700 Brian Durant=[BD] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Does anyone on the list know the proper syntax for adding more than one address in the To: field? Do i just leave a space, or do I need to separate with a comma, but no space? Separate with comma (,) or semicolon (;). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/44 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: editor query
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 at 10:01 GMT + (28/02/2002 17:01 where you think I live) Marck D Pearlstone=[MDP] wrote to GASP on TBUDL : Very wordstar of you :-) Funny you should say that ... the TB editor owes a lot to the old WordStar standard or, to be even more accurate, SideKick. He..he..he.. that's why I have not much problem when using Joe as (external) editor when in linux because I used to wordstar long long time ago and use TB! while in Windows :-) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/44 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (Newbie alert!) Multiple mailto: addresses.
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:28:44 +0530 Raj wrote to Brian Durant on tbudl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BD Do i just leave a space, or do I need to BD separate with a comma, but no space? I guess its separated by asemi colon and space like given below. TBTECH [EMAIL PROTECTED]; TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] No need space, but you may add without harm :-) RFC said it must use semi colon, but TB! allow you to use comma (in fact TB! will convert comma to semi colon while sending). -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Suggestion
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 at 13:20 GMT +0100 (20/02/2002 19:20 where you think I live) bbx=[b] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : As I've subscribed to many ML, I'd suggest to put in the Object field e.g. [tbudl], just to know which list I receive from. For example, - This is just an idea - i received today an object msg titled: [keriofirewall] Where to go for Help? I think It's more clear (can we say clearer?). No :-) Suppose you made filter under subject tag, and you forward message from one list to another list, then the message back from second list will goes to first folder list :-) IMHO, with the power of TB! filtering, subject tag is waste. Look complete header (shift-ctrl-K) if you need info about list administration help. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/41 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Suggestion
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 at 12:32 GMT + (20/02/2002 19:32 where you think I live) Marck D Pearlstone=[MDP] wrote to bbx on TBUDL : LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpIaSBUQlVE TCwNCg0KT24gMjAgRmVicnVhcnkgMjAwMiBhdCAxMzoyMDo0MyArMDEwMCAod2hpY2ggd2FzIDEy Uh oh..what happen Marck ? -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/41 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Message Delays [ was Re: Missing message in TBUDL folder]
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 at 15:37 GMT +0100 (29/01/2002 21:37 where you think I live) Jernej Simonèiè=[JS] wrote to Miguel A. Urech : MAU But first reply by Alastair has just vanished. It is not in MAU TBUDL folder, and it is not in Trash folder either. I have even MAU done a search of my whole message base to no avail. That message seems to have been delayed... I only got it now (together with John Kennett's reply), while I got all other messages in that thread on previous mail check... Here are the relevant headers: Yeah...my server connection to main (ISP) gateway going vanished since 28 Jan 02 night, switching to alternate gateway since then making the route hops longer than normal, so some destination getting deferred/delay. It was back to normal this morning. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/31 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Re[2]: Signature block and quoted reply
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:04:50 +0100 Jernej Simonèiè [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED]: JS SH It is trend now, some other mailer implemented too :-) JS JS Which others are these? I've seen Becky and Gnus (but Gnus seems to JS put number of spaces in front of initials)... At least you can see on Pine BSD list, Sylpheed (as I used now), and others (not rememebr correctly now) :-) -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accessing Exchange Global Address List via LDAP
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 at 08:39 GMT -0800 (13/12/2001 23:39 where you think I live) Peter Chiou=[PC] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Ask your Administrator to activate LDAP on Exchange then use TB! LDAP address book to access/synch. What should the search base be? I would guess that it is different from enterprise to enterprise. Correct. Mostly use DN Database, i.e o(=organization name) and c(=country), for example my LDAP server use o=Duta Integrasi Pratama c=ID. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Echange - open other mailbox then my own
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 12:12:24 GMT +0100 (07/12/2001 18:12 where you thinkIlive)Gert-Janvan Krevelen=[GJv] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : GJvK At work I have of course my own mailbox, which is no problem to set GJvK the Bat up to open that box. GJvK We also have a general mailboxes like 'sales'. A few people have GJvK rights for that mailbox, and when using Outlook, you can simply add GJvK the mailbox and it checks the user-rights, and it shows the contents GJvK if you have access. You mean Sales is public folder in Exhange or MDaemon (are you using Mdaemon right ?). Actually it is IMAP folder. GJvK In the Bat however I can't find a way to specify a mailbox-name, GJvK it assumes that the mailbox name is the login name. Which is GJvK correct for my personal mailbox, but not for the 'sales' GJvK mailbox. I'd like to be able to open that one too, but no matter GJvK what I try, for the login info I need my own name else I can't GJvK even connect, but when I do that, it only retreives my mail and GJvK not the 'sales' mailbox. You must using IMAP Protocol, but unfortunetely IMAP in TB! still limited, so you can not subscribe IMAP folder as you wish to. Sorry ... -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Echange - open other mailbox then my own
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 18:26:14 GMT +0700 (07/12/2001 18:26 where you think I live) Syafril Hermansyah=[SH] wrote to Gert-Jan van Krevelen : GJvK In the Bat however I can't find a way to specify a mailbox-name, GJvK it assumes that the mailbox name is the login name. Which is GJvK correct for my personal mailbox, but not for the 'sales' GJvK mailbox. I'd like to be able to open that one too, but no matter GJvK what I try, for the login info I need my own name else I can't GJvK even connect, but when I do that, it only retreives my mail and GJvK not the 'sales' mailbox. SH You must using IMAP Protocol, but unfortunetely IMAP in TB! still SH limited, so you can not subscribe IMAP folder as you wish to. SH Sorry ... This a work around : - install MD Email Agent (aka Worldclient Watch). - Subcribe only for Sales Folder, and set to notify only for folder Sales. - If new message arrive to Sales Folder, your Email Agent will flash, then Open WorldClient (note: I am using it here for Groupware application (Calender, Appointment and Meeting Scheduler). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Echange - open other mailbox then my own
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 16:15 GMT +0100 (07/12/2001 22:15 where you think I live) Gert-Jan van Krevelen=[GJv] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah : Tnx for the replies. I'll check it out with the techies monday and see if they can combine they're knowledge with this info. But I guess not, since my main plan was to, when I got it completely working the way I want to, to convince collegues to use the Bat! too, to get rid of the stupid Outlook virusses. (Next step would be to get rid of Exchange... ;)), but a 2nd program is not really an option. For me it would be, but most collegues are completely computer-stupid so they're never going to understand that. I guess IMAP is the protocol we need, and if the Bat! is not supporting that completely yet, I guess we'll have to wait until it comes available. In fact Public Folder under MDaemon can be connected to Mailing List, so we can have another work around (this one what I implemented on my Internal Office for Marketing G), as follows : - Create Mailing List with name sales (of course you must delete Sales account/mailbox first). - Set this list as One way List, i.e. all messages come from this list will reply back to Original Poster. - For all members of Sales List, set Folder Template %BCC=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (better than that, create it on Address Book Template if you're share TB! Public Address Book). Set that macro for Composing and Reply Template, also set the Identity so that all reply-to :address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - That way, if any member of Sales List reply to author, another member will getting copy, and reply-to: address automatically address to original sender. The downside with this approach only you can not create autoresponder, but you may using Content Filter to do that. If your technical person confuse about how to do that, please contact me off list. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Unable to Download
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 22:02 GMT +0530 (07/12/2001 23:32 where you think I live) Raj=[R] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : From the afternoon today I have been experiencing problems in down loading large mails. When I say large I mean around 40K or so. [ ...] Any idea what could be the problem ??? IIRC, you are running AVG and other AV, try again after disable AVG (at least). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Unable to Download
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 22:29 GMT +0530 (07/12/2001 23:59 where you think I live) Raj=[R] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah on tbudl : SH IIRC, you are running AVG and other AV, try again after disable AVG SH (at least). I removed all the AV and still the problem persists... Remove of disable ? After disable, shutdown and restart first TGIF, Have a great weekend! OGIF (Oh God It's already Friday G) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 at 20:31:40 GMT -0800 (06/12/2001 11:31 where you think I live) Greg Davis=[GD] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : GD I can recieve mail but I get this error message in my log when I GD try to send mail from The Bat: Relaying denied. IP name lookup GD failed What do I need to do to fix it? Maybe your (SMTP) Server needs Authentication, either POP Before SMTP or SMTPAUth. Ask your ISP/Administrator for details, either POP before SMTPorSMTPAuthsupportbyThe Bat! (see account properties|Transport). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Resending Messages
On 06 Dec 2001 at 13:19:05 GMT +1100 (06/12/2001 9:19 where you think I live) E Major=[EM] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : EM I think I'm just overlooking it, but I don't see a way to just edit and resend EM a message that you have already sent in the Bat! (maybe even to another email EM address). Does anyone know how to do this? I'm sure a mail prog of the quality of EM The Bat! would be able to do this... If you want to resend only, double click the message from Sent Folder, you will go to Message View List. Then From Message menu there is resend menu or Simply using shorcut Shift+Ctrl+Home -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TB s-l-o-w over network
Hello Geoff Lane, On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 at Tue, 4 Dec 2001 GMT + (which was 12/4/2001 8:21 PM where you think I live) you told to the list : I have two copies of TB installed on my network. The first copy runs on WinNT 4 with all folders local. The second copy runs on Win98 but the message base is on the NT machine, accessed via a mapped drive. The network is TCP/IP over 10-base-T. I do that all the time (I am running multi O/S and multi PC in front of me G). On the NT machine, TB is very fast. On the Win98 machine, it is unacceptably slow. For example, it takes about five seconds to switch between folders (say, from the Inbox to the Sent Items folder). This is a new installation with only about 25 messages (imported from Outlook Express). I don't want to store TB folders locally because of backup considerations (I only back up the NT machine). That was I am thinking too :-) Is this level of performance normal? Is there anything I can do to speed things up? Sounds like your Win9x TCP/IP not well configure, it is still using NETBEUI or NETBIOS protocol instead of pure Tcp/Ip or at least Netbios Over Tcp/Ip, this making TB! slow while resolving your POP/SMTP server. Check out your Network Configuration, especially the HOST name you set on TCP/IP setting /must/ same as Computer Name on your Identity setting. -- Best regards, - Syafril - -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Recieved time (was: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails)
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 at 13:38:30 GMT -0500 (which was 12/5/2001 1:38 AM) Paul A. Thiessen=[PAT] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : PAT Sorry, I should have been more precise. It's complicated for me PAT by the fact that I'm typically condensing mail from 3 accounts PAT into a single inbox - so yes, if I consider each account PAT separately, then the mail is received by TB *for that account* in PAT the order it is received on the server. But since all three PAT accounts are being downloaded simultaneously, the order of PAT receipt of messages between the accounts gets interleaved - so PAT when I transfer them all to one inbox, the received by TB order PAT does *not* match the received by server order. Yeah, I noticed some POP3 server having strange message Time Stamp, Mercury/32 is one of the example. PAT I think this would be fixed by a received by server time PAT ordering, assuming my ISP keeps each of my pop mailboxes on the PAT same machine (which I think it must - they're all on the same POP PAT host, just different user names), or at least with synchronized PAT clocks. I was thinking as that too in the past, because my server at home having feature download base on message size (less first), if I activate this feature my sort order going strange :-( But in other side I think I must trust my PC clock than others :-), and there are more complex situation will raise up if using such feature, for instance : message live will not work as expected. PAT Yes, I realize this is a bit of a special case... I'm just trying PAT to be complex! :) It's just that TB is so nearly perfect in many PAT other ways, I have to get picky to find something new/different PAT to request! ;) The work around is sort message base on Creation Time. -- Best regards, - Syafril - -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Replacing Outlook
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 at 01:58:59 GMT -0500 (05/12/2001 13:58 where you think I live) Don Zeigler=[DZ] wrote to Geoff Lane : I'm replacing Outlook across my company's network. Today, I asked for recommendations to replace the calendar and alarm functions of Outlook. Thanks to all who responded. DZ My old mail agent was (the now discontinued) Calypso. The creators DZ entered into an agreement with the people who made the very fine DZ Time Chaos PIM, and integrated that program into Calypso. If you DZ had Time and Chaos on your machine, you could configure Calypso to DZ use it as its default address book and share info between the two. DZ It would be nice if Ritlabs could work out something similar for DZ the Bat. Hei, TB! can sharing address book (and AB Template of course) since early version, just put it on share Network drive then everybody can use it. Not elegant indeed, but it work :-) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: VIRUS as welcome
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 at 15:19:16 GMT +0800 (03/12/2001 14:19 where you think I live) Thomas F=[TF] wrote to Geek on TBUDL : G Well, shortly after my first message to the list I received as a G welcome the latest virus *APPARENTLY* from [EMAIL PROTECTED] G (Wilhelm Alm). TF All of us got it. :-( TF Syafril, didn't you have an AV programm installed server side? I do but on MDaemon, not in Exim/Listar. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: VIRUS as welcome
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 at 16:27:02 GMT +0800 (03/12/2001 15:27 where you think I live) Thomas F=[TF] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah on TBUDL : TF Syafril, didn't you have an AV programm installed server side? SH I do but on MDaemon, not in Exim/Listar. TF Are you planning to do that in Exim/Listar to prevent viruses to TF spread via this list (and it's many OE users g)? Yes, but I need to upgrade the RAM first. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: VIRUS as welcome
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 at 01:15:44 GMT -0800 (03/12/2001 16:15 where you think I live) Januk Aggarwal=[JA] wrote to Thomas F : TF Are you planning to do that in Exim/Listar to prevent viruses to TF spread via this list (and it's many OE users g)? JA I don't know about yours, but mine didn't come through the list. I'm JA guessing that the infected computer simply replied to the mail coming JA in. I'll bet some of the less vocal members didn't get a copy at all JA and have no idea what we're talking about. :-) I just finished checking warning message from my AV on MDaemon, I didn't find any...can anyone enlighten at what time the virus spread from the list ? -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: VIRUS as welcome
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 at 17:37:19 GMT +0800 (03/12/2001 16:37 where you think I live) Thomas F=[TF] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah on TBUDL : SH I just finished checking warning message from my AV on MDaemon, I SH didn't find any...can anyone enlighten at what time the virus spread SH from the list ? TF Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message not comes from the list first, but directly address to you. For this kind of virueses I can not help, installing AV on Exim will not help either. TF It appears that it did indeed not come through the list. On top of TF that, had it come through a list, it would have been one of the German TF lists anyway (see the mail's subject) and have nothing to do with TF TBUDL's list server. Sorry for the confusion. No problem :-) I wonder myself, even this list not protect with special Anti Virus Engine, but I have activate some filters such : HTML, Quote Printable and Rabid MIME. On most case, the viruses will strip out by the filter (till now I haven't find the case). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
VIRUS as welcome [Fwd: MDaemon Warning - Virus Found ]
This is a forwarded message ***Comment Aha, I found now. Well, this virus send directly to original poster not to the list, so activate Av Engine on the list will not effective. The only action to protect other member I can think of is unsubscribe this member ( I just did). Syafrilmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] End*** From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : 3 Dec 2001, 16:54:44 Subject: MDaemon Warning - Virus Found ===8==Original message text=== The following message had attachment(s) which contained the viruses: From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : Re: Re: VIRUS as welcome Date : Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:52:54 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AttachmentVirus name Action taken -- cf49555133.attExploit.IFrame.FileDownloadRemoved README.MP3.scrI-Worm.BadtransIIRemoved ===8===End of original message text=== -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Virus
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 at 17:28:05 GMT +0530 (03/12/2001 18:58 where you think I live) Raj=[R] wrote to Eric Malausséna on tbudl : R So my question R Have you configured to attachments outside message body. R When you say AVP- u mean Anti Virus Programme or any specific package. AFAIK AVP from Kaspersky Labs can detect viruses even we set attachment inline message body (not in separate directory/folder). My Av on Mail Server also using Kaspersky Labs AV Engine. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: New undesirable behavior
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 at 12:24:13 GMT +0900 (29/11/2001 10:24 where you think I live) Yuki Taga=[YT] wrote to Thomas F : YT Couple of questions then: Where can I get a copy of the 'o' version? YT The site seems to have only the 'd' version. I still have 'o version on my archive, I will upload to my FTPServer. You can download from here ftp://ftp.dutaint.co.id/the_bat/tb153o.rar http://download.dutaint.co.id/the_bat/tb153o.rar (please wait 5 minutes after time stamp of my message). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/12 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Help with an spoiled Address Book
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 at 04:59:34 GMT -0500 (28/11/2001 16:59 where you think I live) Allie C Martin=[ACM] wrote to Javier Marcet on TBUDL : ACM Ooops. I did this as well and ran some LDAP searches losing all my ACM addresses. ACM Since then, I've created a separate address book and associated ACM it with an LDAP server. I did that as well. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10e under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filter does't work
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 at 09:47:52 GMT +0100 (13/11/2001 15:47 where you think I live) Eddie Castelli=[EC] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : EC Recently I get a reply from a very particular eMail address when EC posting a msg in a ML. The body is empty an the Kludges shows only a EC few informations. EC kludges === Received: from ??nnn??@aol.com by imo-m04.??.???.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id u.3a.1d95b7de (16782) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:24:19 -0500 (EST) ^^^ Use this, Location: Kludge, Presence : Yes -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filter does't work
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 at 10:05:48 GMT +0100 (13/11/2001 16:05 where you think I live) Eddie Castelli=[EC] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah : EC Recently I get a reply from a very particular eMail address when EC posting a msg in a ML. The body is empty an the Kludges shows only a EC few informations. EC kludges === Received: from ??nnn??@aol.com by imo-m04.??.???.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id u.3a.1d95b7de (16782) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:24:19 -0500 (EST) ^^^ Use this, Location: Kludge, Presence : Yes EC This can not be taken as this address is my main address to receive EC postings of the ML. The particular address I need to filter is because EC I want to delete it automatically. So I think I can not fiflter on my EC own address. Oops, sorry to misunderstood you :-( How about using From: ??nnn??@aol.com as String Filter (location Kludge). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filter does't work
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 at 09:47:52 GMT +0100 (13/11/2001 15:47 where you think I live) Eddie Castelli=[EC] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : EC Recently I get a reply from a very particular eMail address when EC posting a msg in a ML. The body is empty an the Kludges shows only a EC few informations. EC kludges === Received: from imo-m04.??.???.com [xx.xx.xxx.x] by nt5.server-service.de with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.04) id A7E310010252; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:20:51 +0100 Received: from ??nnn??@aol.com by imo-m04.??.???.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id u.3a.1d95b7de (16782) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:24:19 -0500 (EST) From: ??nnn??@aol.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:24:19 EST Subject: Re: [journalisten] rest snipet To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows DE sub 10504 X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 305325788 Status: U EC /kludges/ === EC Now, if my filter say: ??nnn??@aol.com | sender | yes it doesn't work. EC Also : ??nnn??@aol.com | kludges | yes has no effect. EC Or even: ??nnn??@aol.com | sender | yes EC [journalisten] | subject| yes does not bring any EC satisfactory results. EC Any idea what I'm doing wrong?? Hmm... I think I know what happened. Seem you already have filter for this ML, right ? Move your last filter above, on top of your existing (ML) filter. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filter does't work
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 at 10:42:40 GMT +0100 (13/11/2001 16:42 where you think I live) Eddie Castelli=[EC] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah : EC Dear Syafril, EC --- Syafril Hermansyah / Dienstag, 13.11.01 / 10:18 EC Filter does't work EC Any idea what I'm doing wrong?? Hmm... I think I know what happened. Seem you already have filter for this ML, right ? EC No, it's the first filter in the List by the name of 'move to trash' EC Here the Exported Filter: BeginFilter Name: Move to Trash Active: 1 Source: \\EC_news\Inbox Target: \\EC_news\Trash CopyFolder: \\\none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AltSet:1: 20xxx-Newsletter, AltSet:2: 40'From: ??nnn??@aol.com' Actions: faMarkRead,faDelMsg,faDelServer,faoAdvIsAttach Seems like too many actions here, how if you disable all of this action ? Is the message move to trash folder ? -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
