Re: Address Book Question

2016-05-17 Thread Mike Greenbaum
Thanks to all who helped with my Address Book problem.

I created a new address book, created groups under it which mirrored the old 
groups, and then copied and pasted the contacts from the old groups to the new 
ones.

I was able to create a new group at the correct level.

I deleted the old groups.

All seems to be fine.

I appreciate all the suggestions I received.

Thanks again.


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Re: Address Book Question

2016-05-17 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 2:36:09 AM, Paul Berger (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) 
wrote:

> Hope someone else can help.

It may be called something else on your computer, but it is at the top
of the tree of the address book. How, even if your new group ends up
in the wrong place, this is not fatal. You can grab it and slide it to
the desired place.
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Re: Address Book Question

2016-05-17 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Mike,

Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 6:54:16 AM, among other things, you wrote:

MG> There is no Personal Address Book at the top. At the very top is my first 
group. Nothing above that.

It  seems  that  you did not create an 'Address Book' with a name before you
created  your  first  group.   You  now  need an address book before you can
create  new  and  unlinked  groups.  Go to "File' menu and create an address
book  or  books  with  whatever name(s) you like, and then move the existing
groups to them.

Usually,  by default, TB has an address book called 'Personal address book'
which suits most users..

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Re: Address Book Question

2016-05-17 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 2:54:16 PM, you wrote:

MG>>> I'm trying to add a new group to my address book which I haven't
MG>>> done in years, but TB keeps making the new group a sub-group of whatever 
group is highlighted.

MG>>> My current groups are, for example: Friends, Family, First Week.

MG>>> I want to add a Second Week as a group on the same level as First
MG>>> Week.  But TB keeps creating the group under First Week.

MG>>> How can I add another group at the same level as the others?

>> Am using version 7-1-8

>> You have to Highlight Personal Address Book at the top and then right
>> click to go ahead and add new group.

>> Hope this works for you.

MG> There is no Personal Address Book at the top. At the very top is
MG> my first group. Nothing above that.

MG> Mike



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Re: Address Book Question

2016-05-16 Thread Mike Greenbaum
MG>> I'm trying to add a new group to my address book which I haven't
MG>> done in years, but TB keeps making the new group a sub-group of whatever 
group is highlighted.

MG>> My current groups are, for example: Friends, Family, First Week.

MG>> I want to add a Second Week as a group on the same level as First
MG>> Week.  But TB keeps creating the group under First Week.

MG>> How can I add another group at the same level as the others?

> Am using version 7-1-8

> You have to Highlight Personal Address Book at the top and then right
> click to go ahead and add new group.

> Hope this works for you.

There is no Personal Address Book at the top. At the very top is my first 
group. Nothing above that.

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Re: Address Book Question

2016-05-16 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 2:05:22 PM, you wrote:

MG> I'm currently using version 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) with Windows 7.

MG> I'm trying to add a new group to my address book which I haven't
MG> done in years, but TB keeps making the new group a sub-group of whatever 
group is highlighted.

MG> My current groups are, for example: Friends, Family, First Week.

MG> I want to add a Second Week as a group on the same level as First
MG> Week.  But TB keeps creating the group under First Week.

MG> How can I add another group at the same level as the others?

MG> Thanks.


MG> Mike Greenbaum
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Am using version 7-1-8

You have to Highlight Personal Address Book at the top and then right
click to go ahead and add new group.

Hope this works for you.


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Re: Address book configuration

2015-09-14 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Tuesday, September 15, 2015, 9:58:05 AM, you wrote:

JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers,

JSL> I thought I could make the address book easier and faster to use if I 
created
JSL> sub-groups under the default PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which is one of the 
options
JSL> appearing when you click on the address book icon. Creating the sub-groups 
was
JSL> not a problem and they all show up attached to and below the PERSONAL 
ADDRESS
JSL> BOOK. After filling each sub-group with it's own addresses, I went to each
JSL> sub-group and ticked the FAVORITE box for each address. Once this was done 
I
JSL> could click on the down arrow next to the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE icon in the
JSL> toolbar and every address book entry that had it's FAVORITE box ticked 
would
JSL> appear, as expected. Next I right-clicked on each sub-group, selected 
PROPERTIES
JSL> and ticked the box marked ADD ITEMS TO THE INSTANT ADDRESS POP_UP. This 
results
JSL> in nothing but sub-groups appearing when you click on the CREATE A NEW 
MESSAGE
JSL> icon down-arrow. You can then cursor down to whatever sub-group you want 
and as
JSL> the cursor rested on a sub-group, a drop-down box would appear with the
JSL> selections ALL ITEMS and the addresses which had their FAVORITE boxes 
ticked.

JSL> Perfect! It worked exactly as logic told me it should work. Except as I 
found
JSL> out later, logic doesn't always work with TB!. If you make a change to an
JSL> existing address or add a new one (to any sub-group), all of the sub-groups
JSL> disappear from the drop-down list next to the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE icon. 
Your
JSL> addresses still exist in the address book however. You have to right-click 
each
JSL> sub-group and select PROPERTIES and un-tick the ADD ITEMS TO THE INSTANT 
ADDRESS
JSL> POP-UP box. From there you can un-tick FAVORITE on any address you don't 
wish to
JSL> appear when you click on the down-arrow, and they will no longer display. 
Only
JSL> those addresses whose FAVORITE boxes are still ticked will appear.

JSL> I have a total of 59 addresses separated out into 6 sub-groups and HAD 
every
JSL> FAVORITE box ticked on each address. I work around the problem by having 
just my
JSL> most-used addresses FAVORITE boxes ticked so that only they show up when I 
click
JSL> on the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE down-arrow. Now if I need a lesser-used 
address I
JSL> have to open the address book.

JSL> It was such a beautiful arrangement and it worked so well.

JSL> Ideas?




I use a more primitive system that requires me to use the address book
when  creating  an  email.  I  have no problem when changing items. It
works this way:

Have  groups in the main address book and put in all the addresses
into their basic/main group.

Create groups for particular purposes like zGiggles, zHealth,
zTravelShare.

Then for each individual use the groups button in the address book to
add them into their respective special-purpose groups.

Then  for  each  new  email,  use  the  address book to use any of the
special-purpose groups.

Apart from all this, for those individual addresses in the main groups
that  I  want  to have as Favorites, tick the Favorites box. They then
appear on the right-click in the To: header.




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Re: Address book duplicates

2011-02-27 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Monday, February 28, 2011, Ian A. White wrote:

 I have an odd thing with my addressbook. There are some entries where
 they appear in the root folder of the address book as well as the 
 group they were created in. I never set anything to have the details 
 in anything other than just the group.

 If I try and delete the entry from the root folder, it deletes it 
 from the group as well. The same if I delete it from the group, it is 
 deleted from the root folder as well. If I re-create the entry in the 
 group, it ends up in the root folder as well.

contact is unique in Address book, You can create link in  its group(s).
In any group, You can enable option Hide items... to hide items in root.

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Re: Address book duplicates

2011-02-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ian,

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:20:54 +1100GMT (28-2-2011, 0:20 , where I
live), you wrote:

IAW The odd thing is that not all the entries in the group end up in the 
IAW root folder as well.

In  that  case,  considering  the other messages in this thread, those
other entries might be part of other groups that hide their contents.

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Re: Address book duplicates

2011-02-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ian,

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:37:58 +1100GMT (28-2-2011, 1:37 , where I
live), you wrote:

IAW Unfortunately no. The address was created in just one group and only 
IAW references that specific group. It does not show up in any other 
IAW group other than in the root folder. When you see the group properties
IAW for those contacts, they only have one group box ticked, and that is 
IAW the group they were created in.

OK, here's a silly action.
Close TB.
Make a copy of your address book.
Start TB.
Delete the odd behaving entries.
Create a backup of your address with TB.
Restore your backup.
Re-create your problem entries.

And  now  you're  at it, compare the sizes of your old and new address
book.

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Re: Address book help

2010-07-21 Thread Stephane Bouvard
Hi Jack,

Two points...

1. Creating an image of your running system is a good solution, but never 
forget : it allow you to restore the whole working system, but on the same or 
similar computer...  when you need to move to a new system (another hardware / 
another OS), you should reinstall from scratch your apps and reconfigure from 
scratch, only restoring datas  there's of course a lot of solutions 
allowing you to (partly) restore settings, but you would have a much better 
system if you do not try to adapt your old settings on the new system, but 
directly adapt your datas for the new settings of the new system.

2. You may migrate a fat partition to NTFS without the need to reformat and 
thus without loosing the datas on it...  have a look at convert.exe 
commandline utility  what you need to know before : if you convert your USB 
HDD to NTFS it could not be used anymore on something else than Windows...  it 
means you cannot use it anymore to connect to a PS3, DVD Player, TV, Photo 
Frame, audio car system,...  and it could be much more difficult to revert to 
FAT than converting to NTFS, as windows itself does not allow natively to FAT32 
format a partition bigger than 32GB...



Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 14:37:47, vous écriviez :

 In light of your obviously superior knowledge of Windows, I'd like to ask 
 what you think of it's ability to create an image of whatever computer it's 
 running on. I discovered this ability of the 64 bit OS when I was setting up 
 the backup routine on the new machine.  I'm pretty sure this ability didn't 
 exist in the 32 bit version.  Unfortunately, the USB HDD I'm using for backup 
 is currently formatted as FAT32 and must be formatted to NTSF in order for 
 the image to be created.  As soon as I am comfortable that I have a good 
 Carbonite backup I'm going to re-format the USB HDD to NTSF and try to create 
 an image of this new machine.



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Re: Address book help

2010-07-21 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Raymund,

On Wednesday, July 21, 2010 you wrote:

RT Hi Jack,

RT as I don't think this is of general interest to TBUDL, I send a personal 
message.

 didn't exist in the 32 bit version.  Unfortunately, the USB HDD I'm
 using for backup is currently formatted as FAT32 and must be formatted
 to NTSF in order for the image to be created.  As soon as I am
 comfortable that I have a good Carbonite backup I'm going to re-format
 the USB HDD to NTSF and try to create an image of this new machine.

RT You should be able to do that using the command line and call the program 
convert x: /FS:NTFS. No need to reformat (if you have enough free space left).

RT To make a backup first is a good idea though.

I appreciate the info Raymund.  As you can probably see Stephanie replied with 
similar information but as I stated to her, since the USB HDD isn't used for 
anything other than backups on the laptop, I wouldn't be losing anything.

I just re-read your post and now I'm confused.  What's the difference between 
convert x:/FS:NTFS and the format program?  It seems like the command line 
convert x is going to convert the entire x: drive just as the format 
program would.

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Re: Address book help

2010-07-21 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Stephane,

On Wednesday, July 21, 2010 you wrote:

SB Hi Jack,

SB Two points...

SB 1. Creating an image of your running system is a good solution, but never 
forget : it allow you to restore the whole working system, but on the same or 
similar computer...  when you need to move to a new system (another hardware / 
another OS), you should reinstall from scratch your apps and reconfigure from 
scratch, only restoring datas  there's of course a lot of solutions 
allowing you to (partly) restore settings, but you would have a much better 
system if you do not try to adapt your old settings on the new system, but 
directly adapt your datas for the new settings of the new system.

Understood.

If I had had an image of the old laptop I could have simply replaced the blown 
HDD and restored the image.  However, since neither I nor my wife ever trusted 
the old laptop (erratic operation), we felt safer buying a brand new laptop.  
My problems (read confusion) came about because as I mentioned, the old laptop 
had been upgraded from native Win XP to Win 7.  My lack of knowledge of native 
Win 7 caused me considerable consternation in trying to figure out how I had 
managed to cause two PROGRAM FILES folders to appear on the C: drive.

If a similar HDD crash were to occur on this new laptop and I had an image of 
the HDD before the crash, I would simply replace the HDD and restore from the 
image. That would be my reasoning for creating an image of this new laptop. I 
would create images, perhaps weekly, and then continue doing regular daily 
routine (not image) backups.

SB 2. You may migrate a fat partition to NTFS without the need to reformat and 
thus without loosing the datas on it...  have a look at convert.exe 
commandline utility  what you need to know before : if you convert your USB 
HDD to NTFS it could not be used anymore on something else than Windows...  it 
means you cannot use it anymore to connect to a PS3, DVD Player, TV, Photo 
Frame, audio car system,...  and it could be much more difficult to revert to 
FAT than converting to NTFS, as windows itself does not allow natively to FAT32 
format a partition bigger than 32GB...

The Western Digital Passport USB drive we use for backups on the laptop isn't 
used for anything else so I wouldn't be losing any functionality by converting 
to NTFS. But that information is good to know.

Thanks again for your help. 

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Re: Address book help

2010-07-20 Thread Stephane Bouvard
Hi Jack,

From your message, i could point some errors you've made...

Your old laptop and your new one does not use the same system (32 bits vs 64 
bits,...), and thus you cannot just restore any file/settings like that (and 
certainly not any executable)...

\PROGRAM FILES folder is for program running natively on the system (on your 
new system, 64 bits programs), when \PROGRAM FILES(x86) is for old 32 bits 
programs...

Now you've placed some files of a 32bits program (The Bat!) in the 64 bits 
folder, just the right way to have mistakes...


When you reinstall a new computer, you could of course restore your own data, 
but you should not restore settings as settings are partly dependent of the 
system.  Settings from your old computer may not be adapted to your new 
computer (it's the case here with the PF directory name).

For TheBat!, you have a backup/restore function to do what you want, much more 
easily and without the need to pay HP for the support :)

Easy : on the old computer, you do a backup, on the new computer, you install 
thebat, then you restore the backup.  done :)


Le mercredi 14 juillet 2010 à 23:59:46, vous écriviez :

 This next point perhaps should be addressed to TBOT but it may have some 
 bearing here.  The new laptop's HDD has two folders; one named PROGRAM FILES 
 and one named PROGRAM FILES(x86).  Each folder contains a TB! folder but the 
 TB.exe is in the PFx86 folder. All of the .abd files are in the PF folder.  I 
 copied her .abd file to the PF(x86) folder and selected it to be opened while 
 I was in in the address book window.  I wound up with two identical address 
 books, both of which MALfunction exactly the same.




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Re: Address book help

2010-07-20 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Stephane,

Thank you so very much for replying.

On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 you wrote:

SB Hi Jack,

SB From your message, i could point some errors you've made...

SB Your old laptop and your new one does not use the same system (32 bits vs 
64 bits,...), and thus you cannot just restore any file/settings like that (and 
certainly not any executable)...

I did not know this.  We bought the new laptop knowing that it would come with 
Windows 7 installed but *NOT* realizing that it would be the 64 bit version.  
Even had we known about it being 64 bit I would have automatically assumed that 
it would function as the old 32 bit version did.

SB \PROGRAM FILES folder is for program running natively on the system (on 
your new system, 64 bits programs), when \PROGRAM FILES(x86) is for old 32 
bits programs...

When I was attempting to restore the old backup onto the new  machine, the 
Windows backup I had on my USB HDD didn't seem to work so I used the Carbonite 
off-site backup to do the restore.  Then when I had trouble getting TB! to work 
I looked at the folders on the C: drive and was surprised to find a PROGRAM 
FILES folder *AND* a PROGRAM FILES(x86) folder.  Since I had no knowledge of 
the structure of the 64 bit OS, I assumed I had somehow accidently created the 
PF(x86) by first trying to do the restore with the old Windows backup, 
abandoning that method and going with the Carbonite backup.

SB Now you've placed some files of a 32bits program (The Bat!) in the 64 bits 
folder, just the right way to have mistakes...

Perhaps, but at least TB! now seems to be working properly.  I have not yet 
done a TB! backup but I'm thinking that might be a good idea and once 
completed, flag the TB! backup as a file which should be included in the 
on-going Carbonite backup.  That way presumably I would have a TB! backup 
stored off-site.

SB When you reinstall a new computer, you could of course restore your own 
data, but you should not restore settings as settings are partly dependent of 
the system.  Settings from your old computer may not be adapted to your new 
computer (it's the case here with the PF directory name).

As I have painfully found out.

SB For TheBat!, you have a backup/restore function to do what you want, much 
more easily and without the need to pay HP for the support :)

Silly me.  I thought the Windows backup would be sufficient.  Thank goodness 
for the Carbonite backup.  In defence of the Windows backup however; I might 
have gotten it to work had I more time to fool with it but I was under 
tremendous pressure to get the new machine up and running as soon as possible.

SB Easy : on the old computer, you do a backup, on the new computer, you 
install thebat, then you restore the backup.  done :)

Words to remember.

In light of your obviously superior knowledge of Windows, I'd like to ask what 
you think of it's ability to create an image of whatever computer it's 
running on. I discovered this ability of the 64 bit OS when I was setting up 
the backup routine on the new machine.  I'm pretty sure this ability didn't 
exist in the 32 bit version.  Unfortunately, the USB HDD I'm using for backup 
is currently formatted as FAT32 and must be formatted to NTSF in order for the 
image to be created.  As soon as I am comfortable that I have a good 
Carbonite backup I'm going to re-format the USB HDD to NTSF and try to create 
an image of this new machine.

Again, thank you for taking the time to educate me in the intricacies  of this 
new (to me) OS.

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Re: Address book help

2010-07-20 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi Jack,

as I don't think this is of general interest to TBUDL, I send a personal 
message.

 didn't exist in the 32 bit version.  Unfortunately, the USB HDD I'm
 using for backup is currently formatted as FAT32 and must be formatted
 to NTSF in order for the image to be created.  As soon as I am
 comfortable that I have a good Carbonite backup I'm going to re-format
 the USB HDD to NTSF and try to create an image of this new machine.

You should be able to do that using the command line and call the program 
convert x: /FS:NTFS. No need to reformat (if you have enough free space left).

To make a backup first is a good idea though.
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Re: Address book help

2010-07-16 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Hajdú,

On Friday, July 16, 2010 you wrote:

HZ Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:34:44 PM, you wrote:

 to have them tell me that that's the way the OS is designed.  

HZ Actually, this a very good thing. Imagine how upset the virus/malware 
vendors were, when they found out that neither they can do this :)

HZ Cheers

HZ Z.

Hmmm. Well, I never thought about that but you're probably right.  Thanks for 
pointing that out.

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Re: Address book help

2010-07-15 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello fellow Bats,

On Thursday, July 15, 2010 I wrote:

JSL Fellow list members,

JSL My wife's laptop just died and I have tried (almost successfully) to get 
the new laptop up and running the way the old one was.

Yada, yada, yada.

Fortunately I was able to solve this problem on my own and I only wasted $60 on 
HP tech support.

It finally dawned on me that I might try exporting my wife's existing faulty 
address book to a CSV file, clean up any oddball address problems (the 
aforementioned blank contact) and then import it into a brand new address book. 
 However, silly me, I wanted to save the new address book in the same folder 
the TB executable is in.  Why? Oh I don't know.  Maybe to keep all things BAT 
together?  OH! No, no, no.  Bill Gates won't let me do that with his new 64bit 
Windows 7 OS.  I kept getting an error message that said I couldn't do that and 
I had to contact the system administrator.  I AM the system administrator.  
Hence the $60 wasted on HP tech support only to have them tell me that that's 
the way the OS is designed.  Great, thanks a pantload.

Fortunately (I guess) Mr. Gates deigned to allow me to create a folder in the 
C:\PROGRAM FILES(x86) folder, where the TB executable is located, and I called 
it TB!-ADBs. Once that folder was created I then created a new address book and 
saved it in that folder.  I was then able to import from the cleaned-up CSV 
file into the new address book and everything seems to be working just peachy 
fine.

My apologies to the list for burdening everybody with a problem I was a bit too 
hasty in crying about.  One lives and one learns I guess.

Many thanks to all who spent any time on this.

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Re: Address book help

2010-07-15 Thread Hajdú Zoltán
Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:34:44 PM, you wrote:

 to have them tell me that that's the way the OS is designed.  

Actually, this a very good thing. Imagine how upset the virus/malware vendors 
were, when they found out that neither they can do this :)

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Re: Address Book Sorting

2010-03-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chris,

On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:52:30 +1100GMT (2-3-2010, 6:52 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

C When you create a new group in the Address Book, it doesn't seem as
C you can sort them (into alphabetical order for example).

They're sorted on alphabet as soon as close and restart TB.

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Re: Address Book Sorting

2010-03-02 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Tuesday, March 2, 2010, Mr Happy wrote:

 When you create a new group in the Address Book, it doesn't seem as
 you can sort them (into alphabetical order for example). Any new
 groups I create are simply added to the end of the existing set of
 groups, and I want them alphabetised. I've tried the same shortcut
 keys as you use to move folders in the folder list (Ctrl+Shift+Up and
 Ctrl+Shift+Down), but these don't work. Is sorting a feature that is
 simply missing, or am I using the wrong key combination (I can't find
 a menu option for it in the Address Book itself).

for 4.2.23, this feature is not available, but moving groups via Alt+mouse
is implemented in development version.

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Re: Address book groups and sub groups

2010-01-17 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Sunday, January 17, 2010, 2:21:38 PM, Rick wrote:
 
 Is there any good reason for doing so?
 
I'd  think  for  some  users  there would be good reasons. For others,
maybe not.
  
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Re: Address book groups and sub groups

2010-01-17 Thread Rick
 On Sunday, January 17, 2010, 2:21:38 PM, Rick wrote:
  
 Is there any good reason for doing so?
  
 I'd  think  for  some  users  there would be good reasons. For others,
 maybe not.
   
I was looking for good scenarios or perhaps there is something that I
am missing. I DO see some value in it.

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Re: Address book syncronisation

2009-09-05 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 5 September 2009 at 3:44:14 PM, in
mid:824989207.20090905164...@web.de, simbabque wrote:



 I cannot find the licence text... 


Check your TB! program directory for a file called licence.txt



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Re: Address Book Group templates

2009-07-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Carren,

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:45:29 +1200GMT (26-7-2009, 9:45 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CS I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates
CS work as opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the
CS advantage of one is over the other yet.

Address  book  templates  are  used  when you set the recipient before
entering text in the body.
Individual  address  book  templates take precedence over address book
group templates and both take precedence over folder templates.

Suppose  you  filter tbudl messages to a dedicated folder. If you want
to use a special template for replies to the list then you can do that
via a folder reply template or via an address book reply template.
Suppose  you  want to send a private reply to one of the list messages
(Ctrl-F4).  When  you're  using  folder  templates  your message will
be  formatted like your list messages, with address book templates that
won't be so.

CS I note that the To field automaticaly fills with TBUDL list
CS for a new message. Sending this message to see if it works.

That's  odd. The mentioning of the list tag means your addressing an
address  book  group  and  if  that's  done  automatically then you're
probably  using  a  self  addressing  folder template. Those are a bit
risky.


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Re: Address Book Group templates

2009-07-26 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Sunday 26 July 2009 at 8:45:29 AM, in
mid:17240271.20090726194...@xnet.co.nz, Carren Stuart wrote:



 I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group
 templates work as opposed to folder templates. Not
 quite sure what the advantage of one is over the other
 yet.

A Folder template will be used if that folder has focus when the new 
message is created, unless you also have an AB template for the 
(first?) recipient on the To: line (or an AB group template for a 
group that recipient is assigned to.) Unless you are careful about 
checking which folder is active when you create a new message this can 
result in an unintended template being used. Obviously, you can just 
look at the message you are creating to verify the right details are 
there.


 I note that the To field automaticaly fills with
 TBUDL list for a new message. Sending this message to
 see if it works.

It does (-;



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Re: Address book - Display Name as field

2009-04-02 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello,

 Right now there's a horrible mix of first name and last
 name sorting that I'm trying to resolve.

M Doesn't view / Sort by... take care of that?

Ah ha!  That's half way there at least.  Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Address book - Display Name as field

2009-04-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Nick,

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:44:04 +0100GMT (1-4-2009, 17:44 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

ND New contacts in my address book are created with the display name
ND field set to user-defined.

Yep.

ND Does anyone know if there is:
ND - a way to set the default?
ND - a way to set all of my contacts to a particular display name format?

Neither can be done.

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Re: Address book - Display Name as field

2009-04-01 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Wednesday 1 April 2009 at 4:44:04 PM, in
mid:1485950832.20090401164...@winchmore.com, Nick Dutton wrote:



 New contacts in my address book are created with the
 display name field set to user-defined.

I wish I could get that. I have to change it from prefix first middle
last, suffix whenever I create a new contact.

 Does anyone know if there is: - a way to set the
 default?

I have never found one.

 - a way to set all of my contacts to a
 particular display name format?

Apart from one at a time, not to my knowledge. Mass edit of address
properties has the option greyed out.

 Right now there's a horrible mix of first name and last
 name sorting that I'm trying to resolve.

Doesn't view / Sort by... take care of that?


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Re: Address Book groups and 2+ addresses per contact

2008-03-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo simbabque,

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:30:23 +0100GMT (8-3-2008, 15:30 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

S I would like to get TheBat! to decide which of those two (or maybe
S more) addresses it should use depending on the group from which I
S select the contact to write a new message. It would also be nice if
S it did that when I write a mail to all contacts in the group (i.e. a
S meeting invitation or something).

Can't be done this way with TB. Best way would be to create unique
entries for each address and to place those addresses in the matching
group.

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Re: Address Book groups and 2+ addresses per contact

2008-03-08 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Roelof Otten« · 2008-03-08 · 22:47 h (CET)]

Moin, Roelof!

 I would like to get TheBat! to decide which of those two (or maybe
 more) addresses it should use depending on the group from which I
 select the contact to write a new message. It would also be nice if
 it did that when I write a mail to all contacts in the group (i.e.
 a meeting invitation or something).

 Can't be done this way with TB. Best way would be to create unique
 entries for each address and to place those addresses in the
 matching group.

Yep, you are right. — Another solution could be:

- Open address book
- Right-click the desired contact
- Choose New message to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Address book and New Message Template

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Maggie,

Thursday, January 24, 2008, 6:38:02 PM, you wrote:

MM If I choose a new email from the New Message button in the address book
MM when their name is highlighted, all is well and the new message reads: Dear 
Joe and Sue.

MM If I create a message by calling a new message from the main screen and
MM using their nickname (handle), the salutation says Dear Joe only.

MM How can I get the new message to read Dear Joe and Sue when using the 
nickname to call a new message?

Perhaps I'm missing something, but what's wrong with simply putting
Dear Joe and Sue (without quotes of course  instead of using a macro)
in the AB - New Message Template, meanwhile not forgetting to tick use
specific template for new messages (translated - text may be slightly
different)???

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Re: Address book and New Message Template

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Maggie,

Thursday, January 24, 2008, 10:37:01 PM, you wrote:

MM Understandably this is hard to understand (even for me, and I wrote it!)
MM Thanks for taking a look at this for me.

Before writing I tried that out and it worked as expected.

Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB?

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Re: Address book and New Message Template

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Maggie,

Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:24:00 PM, you wrote:

MM I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their 
own handles.

Are there any AB New Message templates active for those?
If not, what happens when you activate one for him in which you put
Dear Joe and Sue or whatever [f.i. you could also use something like
The miserable life of a toilet blessed with a severe form of Mysophobia]
:-)


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Re: Address book and New Message Template

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Maggie,

Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:24:00 PM, you wrote:

MP Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB?

MM I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their 
own handles.

What happens when you activate an AB New Message Template in which you put
f.i. (not necessarily as a salutation):

1. Joe in the AB entry for him alone
2. Sue in the AB entry for her alone (*)
3. Joe And Sue in the AB entry for both

Which one shows up then?

(*) I presume Johnny Cash is not envolved!  :-)

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Re: Address book and New Message Template

2008-01-24 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 at 17:24:00 -0500, Maggie wrote:
MP Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB?

 I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their 
 own handles.

I have a suspicion that when called from the main screen, TB! just
looks for the first entry in the address book with the particular
email address. So if all 3 entries have the same email address,
although you call the joint entry by nickname, it still goes back and
finds Joe's solitary entry when looking for the template to use.

Try changing the email address (temporarily) in the address book entry
for him alone, and creating an email from the main screen. If it then
goes to the AB template from the joint entry (or even the one for Sue
alone) it will prove this to be the case.

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Re: Address Book

2007-11-01 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, November 1, 2007, Jeff Gaines wrote:

 I have made a real mess of my address book though. I have a general
 address book with a couple of groups. I had anticipated that if I set
 an address in the general book to belong to 1 or both the groups a
 'ghost' or 'shadow' copy would appear in the groups. It doesn't seem
 to be quite working like that, if I remove an address from a group it
 seems to disappear from the general book as well. Have I misunderstood
 how it works? I don't want to try cleaning the addresses until I am
 absolutely sure about how it works!

if You create a contact, You can select group(s), where will be displayed
as a link.

It is possible to hide contact in general book, if is displayed in group,
go to group properties and use option Hide items if not explicitly
selected.

If You try to delete contact from group, bat will ask You, if You want to
delete it from group only, or completely from Address Book.

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Re: Address Book Question

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dan,

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:47:49 -0500 GMT (29/01/2007, 22:47 +0700 GMT),
Dan wrote:

D On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:14:13 -0700, Mike Greenbaum wrote:

 It's true that with your method sorting in the address book is done
 by last name, but the names are still shown in the address book
 with first name first.

 I can live with this if necessary, but ideally--and I suggest this
 for some later update if it's not available now--I'd like to have
 the option of having the address book show the last name first
 while the email shows the first name first.

D There should (and probly is) a better way and I'm sure someone's got a
D kludge or hack that will do it.
D It would also be nice if the new contact display name as defaulted to
D whatever I wanted.

I don't know about any hack, but I think this should go into the
wishlist. I'll support it.

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Re: Address Book Question

2007-02-05 Thread Dan
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:14:13 -0700, Mike Greenbaum wrote:

 It's true that with your method sorting in the address book is done by last 
 name, but the names are still shown in the address book with first name first.
 
 I can live with this if necessary, but ideally--and I suggest this for some 
 later update if it's not available now--I'd like to have the option of having 
 the address book show the last name first while the email shows the first 
 name first.
 
 Thanks.

(Sorry about jumping in late here.Just started back with The Bat) and this 
has been my biggest frustration, so far - getting address book names to 
display the way I need them.
I've imported a couple hundred addresses and all of them display some crazy 
way. That may be due, in part, to the import field matches. Nonetheless, 
right now the only thing I can do is to open each one and change the 
display name as property from default, user defined to last, first, 
middle.
There should (and probly is) a better way and I'm sure someone's got a 
kludge or hack that will do it.
It would also be nice if the new contact display name as defaulted to 
whatever I wanted.

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Re: Address Book Groups Sorting Office

2007-01-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo David,

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:44:27 +0100GMT (21-1-2007, 9:44 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

DE I've got an address book group Customer. I'd like to move all
DE email from anyone in that group to a folder. I'm hoping that I can
DE use:

DE Sender contains any Customer/Recipient contains any Customer

Wrong condition. Use this:
Address groups - Customer - contain - Sender


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Re: Address Book Nesting

2007-01-11 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Monday 8 January 2007 at 11:53:53 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Greenbaum
wrote:

 Some of these classes are no longer active, but I don't want to
 delete the groups. I want to move the whole group (class 2 and
 class 4 for example) inside a folder under Classes, called
 inactive classes.

Would it be sufficient to rename the inactive class groups, for
example Class 2 becomes (Inactive) Class 2?

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Re: Address Book Nesting

2007-01-09 Thread Urban
Tuesday, January 9, 2007, Mike Greenbaum wrote:

 I want to end up with:

 Classes

   Class1
  Contact1

snip
   Inactive Classes
  
  Class2
 Contact1


The closest you can get is by creating a new address book (Tools -
Address Book - New Address Book) called Inactive Classes. Then You can
cut and paste entire groups from the address book Classes to Inactive
Classes.


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Re: Address Book Nesting

2007-01-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mike,

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:53:53 -0700GMT (9-1-2007, 0:53 , where I live),
you wrote:

MG Is it possible in the address book to have groups inside of a group?

No. It isn't possible. TB's groups aren't real groups that can be
moved, they're more like virtual folders.

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Re: Address Book Question

2007-01-06 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Mike,

Saturday, January 6, 2007, 4:44:05 PM, you wrote:

Mike I'm using TB 2.01.3.

Mike I'd like to have the Address Book display peoples names by last name
Mike and then first name so they are easy to locate.

Open Address book, go to |View| |Sort by| choose  |Last name|

Mike But when I send an email, I'd like the To: line to show the first
Mike name before the last name and then the email address.

In properties choose: |Display Name as | First, Middle, Last.

Mike Is there a way to do this so that I don't have to reverse the names
Mike manually each time?  I have a feeling there should be an obvious
Mike solution which I haven't figured out.

That does it for me.

Mike Thanks for any help.




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Re: Address book: 2 e-mail addresses

2006-12-29 Thread m2gdh
Hi Peter


Address book: 2 e-mail addresses

My way of doing this is to set up multiple entries for the person but
with different nicknames.

My nickname standard is name + underscore + h or o [ or whatever suffix makes 
sense ] 

so:

Fred_h = fred at home 
Fred_o = fred in the office 
Fred_y = his yahoo account 
Fred_g = his gmail a/c 

Hope this helps: works for me :D 



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Re: Address book: 2 e-mail addresses

2006-12-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Kerekes  everyone else,

on 27-Dez-2006 at 21:39 you (Peter Kerekes) wrote:

 Currently the only way I know: go to the address book, to her address,
 copy and paste the second address to the Mail Message To: line. I
 would be surprised if there wouldn't be a simpler way, such as a key
 to change the address.

Open the AB. Locate the entry, right click, select New Message To 
and select the correct address from the submenu.

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Re: Address book: 2 e-mail addresses

2006-12-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello ...in addition to my previous message...

on 28-Dez-2006 at 17:20 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote:

 Open the AB. Locate the entry, right click, select New Message To 
 and select the correct address from the submenu.

Same in the AB when you open it from the new message window, except that
the menu item is called Add Address... there.

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Re: Address book: 2 e-mail addresses

2006-12-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Kerekes  everyone else,

on 28-Dez-2006 at 19:46 you (Peter Kerekes) wrote:

 Open the AB. Locate the entry, right click, select New Message To
  and select the correct address from the submenu.

Alexander Same in the AB when you open it from the new message window,
Alexander except that the menu item is called Add Address... there.

 I can see there: Add Secondary Addresses to Bcc. But I don't want to
 sent this mail to the 'primary address' at all. The seondary address
 should be the To:

Select the address and make a *RIGHT* click on it...

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Re: Address book: 2 e-mail addresses

2006-12-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:39:05 -0500 GMT (28/12/2006, 03:39 +0700 GMT),
Peter Kerekes wrote:


PK My daughter (and some other people) have 2 e-mail addresses, one at work
PK another for personal mail.

PK In my address-book I have both addresses marked. If I want to send her an
PK e-mail always the first address shows up, which is OK. But sometimes I want
PK to sent it to her personal box, is there a simple way?

For these people, I have two AB entries.

First one is for Peter (Office), the other one Peter (Home).

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Re: Address book: 2 e-mail addresses

2006-12-27 Thread Matt Thoene
On Wednesday, December 27, 2006 @ 12:39:05 PM [-0700], Peter Kerekes wrote:

 My daughter (and some other people) have 2 e-mail addresses, one at work
 another for personal mail.

 In my address-book I have both addresses marked. If I want to send her an
 e-mail always the first address shows up, which is OK. But sometimes I want
 to sent it to her personal box, is there a simple way?

 Currently the only way I know: go to the address book, to her address, copy
 and paste the second address to the Mail Message To: line. I would be
 surprised if there wouldn't be a simpler way, such as a key to change the
 address.

 Thanks in advance
   

Quick Template would help I believe.

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Re: Address book sync with Pocket PC

2006-11-06 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Graham,

 as anyone used this?
 http://www.artelplus.com/en/thebatsync.php
 It offers syncing The Bat! with either the Palm or Pocket PC address book.

Sounds quite like something I waited for since I started using TB!.
But I am confused because they advertise to sync the Windows Mobile
addressbook, but isn't this just the same as Microsoft Outlook
addressbook (here my Active Sync just syncs Outlooks Addressbook with
my Windows CE device).

As this is try before you buy I think I'll just give it a try if I
got the time. If you do please let me know how the thing was working.

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Re: Address book sync with Pocket PC

2006-11-06 Thread Graham Smith
Hello Martin,


Monday, November 6, 2006, 8:49:22 PM, you wrote:

 as anyone used this?
 http://www.artelplus.com/en/thebatsync.php
 It offers syncing The Bat! with either the Palm or Pocket PC address book.

 Sounds quite like something I waited for since I started using TB!.
 But I am confused because they advertise to sync the Windows Mobile
 addressbook, but isn't this just the same as Microsoft Outlook
 addressbook (here my Active Sync just syncs Outlooks Addressbook with
 my Windows CE device).

The Active sync conduit that syncs the Windows Mobile addressbook with Outlook 
will be replaced by thebatsync so that the Windows mobile address book will 
sync with The Bat! instead of syncing with the Outlook. The Outlook Calendar 
and tasks etc will still sync, but not the address book. At least that is how 
other program syncs work.

 As this is try before you buy I think I'll just give it a try if I
 got the time. If you do please let me know how the thing was working.

Well, I have had lots of problems with PDA syncing, which is why I was hoping 
some one here would have experience of using it.


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Re: address book lost

2006-09-22 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Elodie,

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ETP It seems that i cannot open my address book.
ETP which has been saved in program file/ the bat! /mail /thebat.ABD

Are you sure it's been saved there? I have a thebat.ABD too but I also
have a Mine.abd because that's the title I gave my personal address
book and that's where all my addresses are.

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Re: Address book has gone empty

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gary,

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:34:57 -0400 GMT (19/09/2006, 20:34 +0700 GMT),
Gary Lucas wrote:

GL I now find my address book is empty.  And I cannot find any .ABD files that
GL seem to hold my old addresses.

Weird.

GL Is there some way to import the addresses from my backup files?

Yes, just activate the AB in the restore routine.

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Re: Address book customization

2006-06-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Laura,

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:48:32 -0700GMT (21-6-2006, 20:48 , where I
live), you wrote:

A wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to add fields to the
A address book or redefine existing fields.

IIRC Robin Anston once posted something like that.
You can use the memo field for that. The memo field can contain
multiple Lines (I don't know whether there's a limit), so basically
you can insert tags and extract them with the %ABToMemo macro and some
regexp.
Your memo field could look like this:

OctosNo: 
OctosRank: Captain
OctosZone: Antarctica


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Re: Address book customization

2006-06-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof,

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:12:06 +0200GMT (22-6-2006, 11:12 , where I
live), you wrote:

RO IIRC Robin Anston

Oops! Sorry Robin for adapting your name.

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Re: Address book customization

2006-06-22 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 at 11:14:12 +0200, Roelof wrote:
 Oops! Sorry Robin for adapting your name.

I've had far worse! :-)

Yes, I use the memo field for storing data for which there is not
another spot. I could reuse an existing field, but that doesn't
appeal to me. So I set up attributes between pairs of tags thus:

akaJim/aka
closingRegards/closing
receiptsread delivery/receipts

To retrieve those values I use a macro called Get_Memo_Attribute which
looks like
---[Start Get_Memo_Attribute]---
%Rem='

Usage:
   attribute value=%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,Tag,Default_Value)

'%-
%If:'%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^%_1%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo'='':'%_2'%-
:'%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(%_1/)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+++:++%-
:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(?:%_1)(.*?)(?:/%_1)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+'%-

[End Get_Memo_Attribute]

As described in the macro, you call it from another macro or template
by using something like

%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,closing,Yours Sincerely)

In the example above it would return Regards. If there was not an
attribute between a starting tag closing and an ending tag
/closing, it would return Yours Sincerely.

You can also assign the value to a temporary variable by using

%_temp=%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,closing,Yours Sincerely)

Is that useful?

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Re: Address book customization

2006-06-21 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Laura,

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

awc wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to add fields to the
awc address book or redefine existing fields.

Don't think you can redefine them but there's a pretty good choice if
you select View/Columns in the address book. Is that the sort of thing
you're after?

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Re: Address book customization

2006-06-21 Thread Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2006-6-21 2:48:32 PM
Address book customization mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to add fields to the
 address book or redefine existing fields.

You can always co-opt some field you're not using. My personal
favorite is Personal Home Page.

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Re: Address book bug (contact deletion): anybody to confirm?

2006-04-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Maksym,

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:32:27 +0300GMT (25-4-2006, 10:32 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MK Could any kind soul out there test it with their installation and
MK report the results on the Bugtraq?

I've never noticed the behaviour you describe, so I tested it. This is
what I did:

Created two AB groups (hidden enabled)
Created one contact belonging to both
Created one contact belonging to one
Deleted the group with two contacts
Only the contact belonging only to the deleted group was gone

Created two AB groups (hidden enabled)
Created one contact belonging to both
Deleted one group
The remaining group had no entries

Created two AB groups (hidden enabled)
Created two contacts belonging to both
Deleted one group
The remaining group had one entry

Definitely a bug, but not one that's likely to surface in a real life
environment. I added a not to your bug.

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Re: Address Book Follow-Up

2005-10-13 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Tuesday 11 October 2005 at 12:44:27 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Lawrence Johnson
wrote:

 Except these Verisign addresses don't show up in the Address Book
 Window...at least, so far.

The only place I can see them is in my Trusted Root CA address
book.

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Re: Address Book Follow-Up

2005-10-11 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Lawrence,

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:55:51 -0500GMT (11-10-2005, 5:55 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

LJ address book.  The address list below the Drop Down list contains a
LJ ton of other entries besides my original address book entries.  They
LJ must have been loaded when I was flailing around trying to recover my
LJ address book.  The extra addresses are typically of the form CA Cert
LJ Signing Authority and Verisign Trust Network, Verisign, Inc.  and
LJ such.  I'm not sure how I got these into the list.  But I can't delete
LJ them from the Pick e-mail address Window.  How do I get rid of them
LJ and have only my original address book entries appear.

Press F8 and delete them. You can't do this from the address picker.

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Re: Address book dissapears

2005-09-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jenny,

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:18:21 +0200GMT (6-9-2005, 11:18 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

J I now see that this address book has disappeared from The Bat!
J altogether. This is the second time this has happened - can someone
J enlighten me as to why this happens and what I can do to prevent it?

Happened to me too, a couple of years ago, never found out why.
I just opened it again. In the AB:
  File - Open
And sometime it kept from happening, hasn't occurred to me with v2
and v3.

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Clive Taylor
Yes, in Mulberry
I'm not convinced about that at this stage, Roelof. Tony has posted a 
number of messages testing his IMAP accounts in TBBETA using Mulberry that 
have failed to thread properly while other people using the prog have not 
had problems. I've switched from TB to Mulberry to post this - let's have a 
look at the headers when it appears on the list.

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Clive,

On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:07:26 +0100GMT (17-5-2005, 8:07 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 Yes, in Mulberry

CT I'm not convinced about that at this stage, Roelof. Tony has posted a
CT number of messages testing his IMAP accounts in TBBETA using Mulberry that
CT have failed to thread properly while other people using the prog have not
CT had problems. I've switched from TB to Mulberry to post this - let's have a
CT look at the headers when it appears on the list.

So your headers are fine. Nevertheless, Tony's aren't. And since his
headers were fine with TB, it's unlikely that he has a third party
tool running that 'fixes' his headers.
All leads to the conclusion that it's Tony's Mulberry. Whether it is a
setting or a faulty program file, it clearly is a bug when a program
headers specially for threading, but makes them in such a way that
they don't work, because they're not following the proper RFC.

It's a rotten discussion trick, but I really think this is off topic
for tbudl or tbbeta, since it concerns a different mail client and the
flow is heavy enough as it is. So I'm crossposting this to tbot and
replies on tbudl will invoke my moderator's wrath. ;-)

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Clive.

--On 16 May 2005 22:25 +0100 you wrote about Re: address book gone?:


 As is your threading (re our exchange in TBBETA). Weird.

So are you saying in TBUDL my threading is OK and all to cock just in
TBBETA?

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello Tony,

just now (on 05/17/2005 at 10:24) you dropped the lines:

 So are you saying in TBUDL my threading is OK and all to cock just in
 TBBETA?

Fire up TB! and see yourself. ;-)

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Clive.

--On 17 May 2005 07:07 +0100 you wrote about Re: address book gone?:


 Tony has posted a number of messages testing his IMAP accounts in TBBETA
 using Mulberry that have failed to thread properly while other people
 using the prog have not had problems.

Lot's of people get cascading AV's when using The Bat! I myself and most
others do not so that's that theory gone.

I don't know what to try. I've tried completely uninstalling, I've tried
earlier non beta versions and I still can't get it to work. I'm waiting to
see what Mulberry support has to say about it.

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RE: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Peter,

Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:30:56 PM, you wrote:


 Jurgen,

 On 16-05-2005 19:59, you [JH] wrote in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
JH after installing 3.5, my two address books were gone, there was just
JH a new generic one with a single address, ritlabs. Did that happen
JH only to me, or is the 'standard procedure'?

 No problem here.

hmmm that's weird. It happened on my side as well as on my g/f's side. I 
haven't joined this Beta cycle, upgraded straight from the last 3.x version.

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Jurgen,

Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 5:47:32 AM, you wrote:

JH I haven't joined this Beta cycle, upgraded straight from the last
JH 3.x version.

  I doubt the fact that you went from the last official version to
  version 3.5 is the issue because I did the same and have had no
  problems here. I have been reading TBBeta faithfully but I did NOT
  install any of the interim releases before installing 3.5.

  Good luck in finding the real cause and/or in resolving your issue.

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RE: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Perry,

Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 2:30:32 PM, you wrote:


 Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 5:47:32 AM, you wrote:

JH I haven't joined this Beta cycle, upgraded straight from the last
JH 3.x version.

   I doubt the fact that you went from the last official version to
   version 3.5 is the issue because I did the same and have had no
   problems here. I have been reading TBBeta faithfully but I did NOT
   install any of the interim releases before installing 3.5.

   Good luck in finding the real cause and/or in resolving your issue.

thanks. I have no clue what has happened, maybe it was because I had none that 
was named as they originally were called? Or maybe because it's a TB 
installation where two users share the same base? Well I found some address 
books that were a bit older but might have been even up-to-date. I don't change 
that much in them.

Are there any themes or icon sets to download yet, somewhere? I checked out the 
german and the czech batpages but there was nothing.

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-17 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Jurgen,

Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 8:46:57 AM, you wrote:

JH I have no clue what has happened, maybe it was because I had none
JH that was named as they originally were called? Or maybe because it's
JH a TB installation where two users share the same base?

  The two conditions I've quoted above are different than my
  installation. My primary address book was the default name, Personal
  Address Book, and I have 5 sub groups under it that were preserved.
  And I am the only user on this system.

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-16 Thread MAU
Hello Jurgen,

 after installing 3.5, my two address books were gone, there was just a
 new generic one with a single address, ritlabs. Did that happen only
 to me, or is the 'standard procedure'?

I didn't have any problem with any of my 5 ABs.

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-16 Thread Tony Boom

--On 16 May 2005 19:59 +0200 Jurgen Haug wrote about...
address book gone?:

Did that happen only to me, or is the 'standard procedure'?
My address books are fine.
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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Jurgen,

On 16-05-2005 19:59, you [JH] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
JH after installing 3.5, my two address books were gone, there was just
JH a new generic one with a single address, ritlabs. Did that happen
JH only to me, or is the 'standard procedure'?

No problem here.

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-16 Thread Clive Taylor
Hello Tony,

Monday, May 16, 2005, 9:23:12 PM, you wrote:

 My address books are fine

As is your threading (re our exchange in TBBETA). Wierd.

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-16 Thread Chris

Clive Taylor @ 2005-May-16 5:25:02 PM
address book gone? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 As is your threading (re our exchange in TBBETA). Wierd.

No, it's not, at least for me. The References and In-Reply-To headers
are missing  . A bug somewhere?

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Re: address book gone?

2005-05-16 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chris,

On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:48:46 -0400GMT (16-5-2005, 23:48 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C No, it's not, at least for me. The References and In-Reply-To headers
C are missing  . A bug somewhere?

Yes, in Mulberry

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Re: address book group template doesn't work for some entries

2005-03-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roman,

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:33:43 -0500GMT (26-3-2005, 1:33 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

RK Now when I reply to some people, these templates work. With other people,
RK it doesn't. I checked to see whether they had their own templates - they
RK don't.

Two options, they're members of another group with its own templates
too or more likely you've got more than one entry for those
addresses.

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Re: address book group template doesn't work for some entries

2005-03-26 Thread Roman Katzer
Hi Roelof,

 Two options, they're members of another group with its own templates too
 or more likely you've got more than one entry for those addresses.

Hm, for at least one person there was only this one entry in that address
book. I had the same person in a different address book that I had used
for a mass mailing (not in a different address book group, different
address book altogether). However, in that same address book I also had
about every other one of my friends, and for them the templates worked.

I deleted the other address book now after backing it up. A first test
seemed to show that the template works now.

Interesting, though: what can you do if you have a person in two different
address books or address book groups and you want to use both templates,
depending on occasion?

 
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Re: address book group template doesn't work for some entries

2005-03-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roman,

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:02:39 -0500GMT (26-3-2005, 19:02 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

 Two options, they're members of another group with its own templates too
 or more likely you've got more than one entry for those addresses.

RK Hm, for at least one person there was only this one entry in that address
RK book. I had the same person in a different address book that I had used
RK for a mass mailing (not in a different address book group, different
RK address book altogether). However, in that same address book I also had
RK about every other one of my friends, and for them the templates worked.

That's the problem with multiple entries, it's a bit unpredictable
what entry takes precedence

RK Interesting, though: what can you do if you have a person in two different
RK address books or address book groups and you want to use both templates,
RK depending on occasion?

In that case I'd suggest to alter those AB group templates into quick
templates (QT) and make the AB templates call the QT. Now when you
want to call a specific template for one of your entries that's in
both groups, you simply call the QT you want.
In this case it's not really an address book template you want to
call, after all you want to be able to use multiple templates for one
contact depending on the situation.

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Re: address book group template doesn't work for some entries

2005-03-26 Thread Roman Katzer
Roelof,

On Saturday, March 26, 2005, 18:40:18, Roelof Otten wrote:
 In that case I'd suggest to alter those AB group templates into quick
 templates (QT) and make the AB templates call the QT.

That's what I did for my Friends group, actually.

 In this case it's not really an address book template you want to
 call, after all you want to be able to use multiple templates for one
 contact depending on the situation.

It'd be great if you could step through the templates with a keyboard
shortcut, the way you step through multiple addresses for the same person.

BTW:
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Any notion on when we humble release candidate users can indulge in a new
version of TB?
It's been more than 5 months with some pretty obvious bugs and very few
promises of real soon now and even fewer yeah, we'll fix that since.

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Re: address book group template doesn't work for some entries

2005-03-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roman,

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:00:38 -0500GMT (27-3-2005, 1:00 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

RK It'd be great if you could step through the templates with a keyboard
RK shortcut,

That's not possible, though you can assign a shortcut to an individual QT.

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RK Any notion on when we humble release candidate users can indulge
RK in a new version of TB?

No.

RK It's been more than 5 months with some pretty obvious bugs and
RK very few promises of real soon now and even fewer yeah, we'll
RK fix that since.

Well, actually they fixed most things and then they introduced a new
GUI and that's so bug ridden that they still it a pre-beta. I suppose
that's a major improvement from the deep alpha as they called 3.0.9.1

Anyway, you're for a big treat when this gets released...

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Re: Address book option to automatically add secondary addresses to BCC doesn't work

2005-03-06 Thread Maggie
Hi Robin,

On Sunday, March 06, 2005 at 9:08:48 PM you wrote:

RA There is an option in each address book entry under the Other tab to
RA automatically add secondary addresses to the BCC field.

RA It doesn't seem to work for me. Can anyone else confirm this?
 
Confirmed here.

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Re: Address book group filtering

2005-01-27 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello Roelof,

Monday, January 17, 2005, 3:52:46 PM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Scott,

SF I am about to do a mass mailing using an address book group that
SF I have set up. Later I expect to add to the group but I will
SF want to send the same message to the new additions and NOT to the
SF ones that already got it.

SF Any thoughts?

RO Several thoughts, actually. Most turn around adding the
RO addresses automatically to your AB, that takes care of the
RO checking and could also make you send that default message
RO automatically.
RO You can either convince your contact to send a message with
RO some trigger string to you in order to be added to your AB
RO group (like an opt in mailing list) or send yourself messages
RO with their address in the from header.

RO After that you create an incoming filter that checks whether the from
RO address is in your AB group, in case it is it won't trigger, in case
RO it isn't the filter will add the address to the group and will also
RO sen a message.

This works. Actually I have two groups set up, one is for
addresses that I don't want added to the first group. The filter
check both and adds if both groups are missing the address.

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Re: Address book group filtering

2005-01-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Scott,

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:19:47 -0800GMT (17-1-2005, 21:19 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

SF I am about to do a mass mailing using an address book group that
SF I have set up. Later I expect to add to the group but I will
SF want to send the same message to the new additions and NOT to the
SF ones that already got it.

SF Any thoughts?

Several thoughts, actually.
Most turn around adding the addresses automatically to your AB, that
takes care of the checking and could also make you send that default
message automatically.
You can either convince your contact to send a message with some
trigger string to you in order to be added to your AB group (like an
opt in mailing list) or send yourself messages with their address in
the from header.

After that you create an incoming filter that checks whether the from
address is in your AB group, in case it is it won't trigger, in case
it isn't the filter will add the address to the group and will also
sen a message.

I think this the most elegant way.

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-20 Thread Plan9
Friday, August 20, 2004, 6:31:30 PM, Peter wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book
P window (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is
P off by a day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to
P add a Birthday column to see it.

Peter Located at GMT +1, it displays fine here.
Peter I can reproduce it though after:
Peter - closing TB
Peter - changing the PC timezone to GMT -n
Peter - starting TB

Peter Care to add a bugtracker entry?

I've never used bugtracker, but I'll give it a try.

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Address Book Birthday display error (Was Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?)

2004-08-20 Thread Plan9
Friday, August 20, 2004, 7:22:24 PM, Plan9 wrote:

Peter Care to add a bugtracker entry?

Plan9 I've never used bugtracker, but I'll give it a try.

Just submitted a BT Report:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003427

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

Hello Plan9,

Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 10:49:01 PM, you wrote:


P As an additional note I have tried the following formats:
PMemo
PBusiness card
PTelephone list
PAddress list
P and they are nice as far as they go, but stop a little short of
P providing the flexibility that I would like. For example none permit
P adding birthdays as far as I can tell and none provide any filtering,
P although you can pick and choose entries from the address list (with
P CNTRL-LEFTCLICK) to be included in the printed output.

now you are starting to get into PIM territory. You can't add a
birthday/anniversary/divorce date to memo ?? I add all my notes about
people to the Memo field.. BUT I agree, reports would be nice.

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Re: Address book notes

2004-08-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

Hello Peter,

Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 9:26:05 PM, you wrote:

PB Just a quick question. Is there a limit on the length of the
PB notes that can be put in the Memo field of the Other tab of an
PB entry in the address book? I ask because I use it as a contact
PB manager, and being in pastoral ministry I can use it for keeping
PB records of home visits, particular issues concerning an individual
PB or family, and so on. At present I use separate text files and link
PB to them from one of the web address fields in the address book, but
PB I would like to put it all together, so to speak. How robust is the
PB address book data in other's experience of this fantastic program?
PB Thanks for any thoughts.

what about smartbat? You could use it to schedule those visits, and use
the log entries for the data.. it also has a quick search feature. F6
activates smartbat, it only took me 5 minutes to find the menu!

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Re: Address book notes

2004-08-19 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 Just a quick question. Is there a limit on the length of the notes
 that can be put in the Memo field of the Other tab of an entry in
 the address book? I ask because I use it as a contact manager, and
 being in pastoral ministry...

To the Cesar what is of the Cesar... :) TB is NOT a contact manager,
it is just an e-mail client.

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Re: Address book notes

2004-08-19 Thread Chris

MAU @ 2004-Aug-19 7:00:35 AM
Address book notes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To the Cesar what is of the Cesar... :) TB is NOT a contact
 manager, it is just an e-mail client.
However, it needs better integration with PIMs. Longhorn should make
this easier by providing a unified API for PIM data access and
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Re: Address book notes

2004-08-19 Thread Steve Thomas
Hello Chris,

Thursday, August 19, 2004, 7:48:40 AM, you wrote:


C MAU @ 2004-Aug-19 7:00:35 AM
C Address book notes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To the Cesar what is of the Cesar... :) TB is NOT a contact
 manager, it is just an e-mail client.
C However, it needs better integration with PIMs. Longhorn should make
C this easier by providing a unified API for PIM data access and
C extension.

You get my vote!  Synchronizing TB's address list to anything else
would be helpful, but consistently ignored by TB developers.  If TB is
not a contact manager, what then is the system for making the two
talk?

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Plan9
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 6:20:38 AM, Paul wrote:

Paul now you are starting to get into PIM territory. You can't add a
Paul birthday/anniversary/divorce date to memo ?? I add all my notes about
Paul people to the Memo field.. BUT I agree, reports would be nice.

Without some way to easily use and share all of the information stored
in the Address Book it becomes a black hole database, everything
goes in and nothing (well, very little) comes out.

On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window
(the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a
day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to add a
Birthday column to see it.

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Nick Danger
Reply to message sent 8/19/2004, @ 11:52:05 (10:52 AM Locally)
~~~

Hello Plan9,

 Without some way to easily use and share all of the information stored
 in the Address Book it becomes a black hole database, everything
 goes in and nothing (well, very little) comes out.

I use TB!'s macros in conjunction with PowerPro to get a useful
(enough for me anyway) faux PIM. I can open the address book, pick a
name, hit a hotkey and a new message opens up with all the pertinent
(at least what I consider pertinent) address book information about
that person in it.

Works fairly nicely.

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Plan9,

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:52:05 -0400GMT (19-8-2004, 17:52 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window
P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a
P day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to add a
P Birthday column to see it.

Here it's the correct date that's shown.

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Plan9
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:23:31 PM, Jurgen wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window
P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a
P day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to add a
P Birthday column to see it.

 Here it's the correct date that's shown.

Jurgen here, too! Maybe their's correct too, and the people are off a day g

Nice try.  :-D  But it's definitely off by a day.  Could it have
something to location; GMT + or -?

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Plan9!

On Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:07 PM, you wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book
P window is off by a ... day on my system. ...

 Here it's the correct date that's shown.

Jurgen here, too! Maybe their's correct too, and the people are off a day g

P Nice try.  :-D  But it's definitely off by a day.  Could it have
P something to location; GMT + or -?

Mine is a day early. Could it be that the calendar failed to recognize
leap year?  No, then the Europeans' would, also. Hmm. GMT seems like
the best guess.

And while we're at it, I've once more forgotten how to set these
birthdays. :(

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Re: Address book notes

2004-08-19 Thread MAU
Hello Chris,

 To the Cesar what is of the Cesar... :) TB is NOT a contact
 manager, it is just an e-mail client.
 However, it needs better integration with PIMs.

I can agree to that :)


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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Plan9
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:00:55 PM, Roelof wrote:

Roelof Hallo Plan9,

Roelof On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:52:05 -0400GMT (19-8-2004, 17:52 +0200, where I
Roelof live), you wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window
P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a
P day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to add a
P Birthday column to see it.

Roelof Here it's the correct date that's shown.

Just to make sure everyone is looking at the same thing I've put two
jpg images on my website.

The properties screen where the birthday is entered.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/properties.jpg

The Address Book screen that list all of the addresses.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/add_book.jpg

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