[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2024-05-30 Thread springer
Andre, please know that the community's official forum moved a while ago to 
this site:

https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

Posts to google groups get forwarded there, so I could see your question -- 
but I had to come over to google groups to reply. In future, please post 
questions (and search and browse some great conversations, including 
multiple ways of approaching tables!) over at the talk.tiddlywiki community.

Meanwhile, I can offer a quick tip here, though: Check out the quick-table 
macro (also by @Mohammah) here: 
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fquick-table-macro

-Springer
On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 5:52:29 AM UTC-4 André Carvalho wrote:

> Hi Alan
> I've just found this plugin and its amazing. Congratulations on a great 
> job!
>
> Maybe I'm just missing something but I would like to be able to create a 
> multi-line table whose content come from a single tiddler instead of a 
> tiddler per line (probably named tablename_content and tagged with a 
> specific tag).
> The content of that tiddler may be some form of structured text like CSV.
>
> I think this would cover a common use case where we have large tables with 
> static content in a tiddler that become quite difficult to edit using TW 
> syntax.
>
> Best regards
> André de Carvalho
>
> PS: as you can see by my sites (https://missingintw5.tiddlyhost.com/# and 
> https://acarvalho.tiddlyhost.com/) I'm not too orthodox in TiddlyWiki 
> usage but for me it is a fantastic tool to keep an easy to maintain and 
> read website.
>
> On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:01:41 PM UTC+1 Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>
>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
>> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
>> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
>> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
>> installation instructions and examples:
>>
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
>> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
>> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
>> any feedback. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan Aldrich
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2024-05-30 Thread André Carvalho
Hi Alan
I've just found this plugin and its amazing. Congratulations on a great job!

Maybe I'm just missing something but I would like to be able to create a 
multi-line table whose content come from a single tiddler instead of a 
tiddler per line (probably named tablename_content and tagged with a 
specific tag).
The content of that tiddler may be some form of structured text like CSV.

I think this would cover a common use case where we have large tables with 
static content in a tiddler that become quite difficult to edit using TW 
syntax.

Best regards
André de Carvalho

PS: as you can see by my sites (https://missingintw5.tiddlyhost.com/# and 
https://acarvalho.tiddlyhost.com/) I'm not too orthodox in TiddlyWiki usage 
but for me it is a fantastic tool to keep an easy to maintain and read 
website.

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:01:41 PM UTC+1 Alan Aldrich wrote:

> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2022-04-19 Thread arun babu
Hi Alan,

I was trying to create a income expense manager using tiddlytables based on 
the task manger demo you have shown. I was inspired by this budgetlywiki 
.

Here  is what I got after 
todays experiments. Will you be able to clear some of my doubts if I ask 
here.

 

On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 1:39:40 PM UTC+5:30 arun babu wrote:

> Thanks Alan for the reply. Don’t be sorry. It has been a tough time for 
> all of us. Happy to hear from you. Waiting for further updates on 
> tiddlytables once u r ready. Will give my suggestions as I use it more. May 
> be you can start a GitHub page for the plug in as a beginning. Merry 
> Christmas!
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:29 PM aeroc...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Arunn,
>> Sorry for the delay and thank you for your kind words. I am happy to hear 
>> you are finding my plugin useful. I have a few ideas for enhancements, but 
>> there has been no development since January. This year has been 
>> challenging, and as you mentioned, it has been difficult to find time. I 
>> have been quietly watching TW developments and I am always excited to see 
>> new features. I am especially excited for the 5.1.23 release that finally 
>> gives us keyboard-driven-input macros. I think this is a good release to 
>> base a new version of TiddlyTables on. At the top of my list of things to 
>> do is a rewrite of the pagination system, which is a little clunky in my 
>> opinion. I have also pondered how to integrate it more seamlessly with the 
>> core and make operation and styling more standard. Any ideas/feedback are 
>> welcome and greatly appreciated. 
>>
>> Tones, 
>> You are correct. I love TiddlyWiki but it doesn't pay the bills. I wish 
>> it did. 
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-6 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose *"there is no news regarding the further development"*  
>>> because we operate on voluntary contributions of time. People also need 
>>> feedback that there solutions are useful to justify what is working for no 
>>> return. This is fine in a community spirit but sometimes life and 
>>> livelihood compete with community work. I for one could deliver a pile of 
>>> published solutions however I am not working much and need to build a 
>>> business.
>>>
>>> We do need to find ways to inject a little demand and output for those 
>>> seeking a living.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 18:58:15 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Tones

 I know that its a successful tool already. But i was thinking why there 
 is no news regarding the further development of such a great plug in for 
 the last 10 months. Probably the developer is busy in his life and 
 wouldn't 
 have got time to allocate for further updates. I should thank Alan for 
 developing tiddlytables and for being an inspiration for similar pllug ins.

 On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:17:07 AM UTC+5:30 TW Tones wrote:

> arunn
>
> Thread activity is unfortunately not a way to measure the success of a 
> tool, but yes, its a great implementation
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 07:31:35 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Today only i got to explore this powerful tool and i was surprised to 
>> see the lack of activity in this thread. Hope your fine Alan.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:42 AM UTC+5:30 
>> aeroc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> myfta,
>>>
>>> *Column Templates *are used to modify the text or functionality of 
>>> columns. 
>>> There are three kinds of column templates: header, body and footer 
>>> templates, and there are several built in.
>>> Click "manage column templates" under "Columns" in the edit menu to 
>>> choose a different template for a particular field/index.
>>> This link 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> has more information about the template concept.
>>>
>>> *CSS* is used to modify the appearance of columns. 
>>> There are a few built in stylesheets that can be edited under "Theme 
>>> (Stylesheet)" section of the edit menu.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:42:04 PM UTC-6, myfta wrote:

 So how might I format the column headings from my field names to 
 something perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?



 On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for 
> creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports 

Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-12-24 Thread arun babu
Thanks Alan for the reply. Don’t be sorry. It has been a tough time for all
of us. Happy to hear from you. Waiting for further updates on tiddlytables
once u r ready. Will give my suggestions as I use it more. May be you can
start a GitHub page for the plug in as a beginning. Merry Christmas!

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:29 PM aeroc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Arunn,
> Sorry for the delay and thank you for your kind words. I am happy to hear
> you are finding my plugin useful. I have a few ideas for enhancements, but
> there has been no development since January. This year has been
> challenging, and as you mentioned, it has been difficult to find time. I
> have been quietly watching TW developments and I am always excited to see
> new features. I am especially excited for the 5.1.23 release that finally
> gives us keyboard-driven-input macros. I think this is a good release to
> base a new version of TiddlyTables on. At the top of my list of things to
> do is a rewrite of the pagination system, which is a little clunky in my
> opinion. I have also pondered how to integrate it more seamlessly with the
> core and make operation and styling more standard. Any ideas/feedback are
> welcome and greatly appreciated.
>
> Tones,
> You are correct. I love TiddlyWiki but it doesn't pay the bills. I wish it
> did.
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-6 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> I suppose *"there is no news regarding the further development"*
>> because we operate on voluntary contributions of time. People also need
>> feedback that there solutions are useful to justify what is working for no
>> return. This is fine in a community spirit but sometimes life and
>> livelihood compete with community work. I for one could deliver a pile of
>> published solutions however I am not working much and need to build a
>> business.
>>
>> We do need to find ways to inject a little demand and output for those
>> seeking a living.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 18:58:15 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> I know that its a successful tool already. But i was thinking why there
>>> is no news regarding the further development of such a great plug in for
>>> the last 10 months. Probably the developer is busy in his life and wouldn't
>>> have got time to allocate for further updates. I should thank Alan for
>>> developing tiddlytables and for being an inspiration for similar pllug ins.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:17:07 AM UTC+5:30 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 arunn

 Thread activity is unfortunately not a way to measure the success of a
 tool, but yes, its a great implementation

 Tones

 On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 07:31:35 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Today only i got to explore this powerful tool and i was surprised to
> see the lack of activity in this thread. Hope your fine Alan.
>
> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:42 AM UTC+5:30
> aeroc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> myfta,
>>
>> *Column Templates *are used to modify the text or functionality of
>> columns.
>> There are three kinds of column templates: header, body and footer
>> templates, and there are several built in.
>> Click "manage column templates" under "Columns" in the edit menu to
>> choose a different template for a particular field/index.
>> This link
>> 
>> has more information about the template concept.
>>
>> *CSS* is used to modify the appearance of columns.
>> There are a few built in stylesheets that can be edited under "Theme
>> (Stylesheet)" section of the edit menu.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:42:04 PM UTC-6, myfta wrote:
>>>
>>> So how might I format the column headings from my field names to
>>> something perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the
 community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for 
 creating
 TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and 
 outs
 of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been 
 gradually
 improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up
 recently and would like to share it with the community.

 The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a
 spreadsheet is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to 
 build
 on that strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and
 display it in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The 
 following

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-12-23 Thread aeroc...@gmail.com
Arunn,
Sorry for the delay and thank you for your kind words. I am happy to hear 
you are finding my plugin useful. I have a few ideas for enhancements, but 
there has been no development since January. This year has been 
challenging, and as you mentioned, it has been difficult to find time. I 
have been quietly watching TW developments and I am always excited to see 
new features. I am especially excited for the 5.1.23 release that finally 
gives us keyboard-driven-input macros. I think this is a good release to 
base a new version of TiddlyTables on. At the top of my list of things to 
do is a rewrite of the pagination system, which is a little clunky in my 
opinion. I have also pondered how to integrate it more seamlessly with the 
core and make operation and styling more standard. Any ideas/feedback are 
welcome and greatly appreciated. 

Tones, 
You are correct. I love TiddlyWiki but it doesn't pay the bills. I wish it 
did. 
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-6 TW Tones wrote:

> I suppose *"there is no news regarding the further development"*  because 
> we operate on voluntary contributions of time. People also need feedback 
> that there solutions are useful to justify what is working for no return. 
> This is fine in a community spirit but sometimes life and livelihood 
> compete with community work. I for one could deliver a pile of published 
> solutions however I am not working much and need to build a business.
>
> We do need to find ways to inject a little demand and output for those 
> seeking a living.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 18:58:15 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Tones
>>
>> I know that its a successful tool already. But i was thinking why there 
>> is no news regarding the further development of such a great plug in for 
>> the last 10 months. Probably the developer is busy in his life and wouldn't 
>> have got time to allocate for further updates. I should thank Alan for 
>> developing tiddlytables and for being an inspiration for similar pllug ins.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:17:07 AM UTC+5:30 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> arunn
>>>
>>> Thread activity is unfortunately not a way to measure the success of a 
>>> tool, but yes, its a great implementation
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 07:31:35 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Today only i got to explore this powerful tool and i was surprised to 
 see the lack of activity in this thread. Hope your fine Alan.

 On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:42 AM UTC+5:30 aeroc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> myfta,
>
> *Column Templates *are used to modify the text or functionality of 
> columns. 
> There are three kinds of column templates: header, body and footer 
> templates, and there are several built in.
> Click "manage column templates" under "Columns" in the edit menu to 
> choose a different template for a particular field/index.
> This link 
> 
>  
> has more information about the template concept.
>
> *CSS* is used to modify the appearance of columns. 
> There are a few built in stylesheets that can be edited under "Theme 
> (Stylesheet)" section of the edit menu.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:42:04 PM UTC-6, myfta wrote:
>>
>> So how might I format the column headings from my field names to 
>> something perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for 
>>> creating 
>>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and 
>>> outs 
>>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been 
>>> gradually 
>>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>>
>>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a 
>>> spreadsheet is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to 
>>> build 
>>> on that strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and 
>>> display it in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The 
>>> following 
>>> link contains installation instructions and examples:
>>>
>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its 
>>> primary purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look 
>>> forward to hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and 
>>> I 
>>> appreciate any feedback. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-12-23 Thread TW Tones
I suppose *"there is no news regarding the further development"*  because 
we operate on voluntary contributions of time. People also need feedback 
that there solutions are useful to justify what is working for no return. 
This is fine in a community spirit but sometimes life and livelihood 
compete with community work. I for one could deliver a pile of published 
solutions however I am not working much and need to build a business.

We do need to find ways to inject a little demand and output for those 
seeking a living.

Regards
Tones




On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 18:58:15 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tones
>
> I know that its a successful tool already. But i was thinking why there is 
> no news regarding the further development of such a great plug in for the 
> last 10 months. Probably the developer is busy in his life and wouldn't 
> have got time to allocate for further updates. I should thank Alan for 
> developing tiddlytables and for being an inspiration for similar pllug ins.
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:17:07 AM UTC+5:30 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> arunn
>>
>> Thread activity is unfortunately not a way to measure the success of a 
>> tool, but yes, its a great implementation
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 07:31:35 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Today only i got to explore this powerful tool and i was surprised to 
>>> see the lack of activity in this thread. Hope your fine Alan.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:42 AM UTC+5:30 aeroc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 myfta,

 *Column Templates *are used to modify the text or functionality of 
 columns. 
 There are three kinds of column templates: header, body and footer 
 templates, and there are several built in.
 Click "manage column templates" under "Columns" in the edit menu to 
 choose a different template for a particular field/index.
 This link 
 
  
 has more information about the template concept.

 *CSS* is used to modify the appearance of columns. 
 There are a few built in stylesheets that can be edited under "Theme 
 (Stylesheet)" section of the edit menu.

 Hope this helps,
 Alan



 On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:42:04 PM UTC-6, myfta wrote:
>
> So how might I format the column headings from my field names to 
> something perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?
>
>
>
> On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and 
>> outs 
>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been 
>> gradually 
>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>
>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a 
>> spreadsheet is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to 
>> build 
>> on that strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and 
>> display it in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following 
>> link contains installation instructions and examples:
>>
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its 
>> primary purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look 
>> forward to hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I 
>> appreciate any feedback. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan Aldrich
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-12-22 Thread arun babu
Tones

I know that its a successful tool already. But i was thinking why there is 
no news regarding the further development of such a great plug in for the 
last 10 months. Probably the developer is busy in his life and wouldn't 
have got time to allocate for further updates. I should thank Alan for 
developing tiddlytables and for being an inspiration for similar pllug ins.

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:17:07 AM UTC+5:30 TW Tones wrote:

> arunn
>
> Thread activity is unfortunately not a way to measure the success of a 
> tool, but yes, its a great implementation
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 07:31:35 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Today only i got to explore this powerful tool and i was surprised to see 
>> the lack of activity in this thread. Hope your fine Alan.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:42 AM UTC+5:30 aeroc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> myfta,
>>>
>>> *Column Templates *are used to modify the text or functionality of 
>>> columns. 
>>> There are three kinds of column templates: header, body and footer 
>>> templates, and there are several built in.
>>> Click "manage column templates" under "Columns" in the edit menu to 
>>> choose a different template for a particular field/index.
>>> This link 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> has more information about the template concept.
>>>
>>> *CSS* is used to modify the appearance of columns. 
>>> There are a few built in stylesheets that can be edited under "Theme 
>>> (Stylesheet)" section of the edit menu.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:42:04 PM UTC-6, myfta wrote:

 So how might I format the column headings from my field names to 
 something perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?



 On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and 
> outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been 
> gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet 
> is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that 
> strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display 
> it 
> in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link 
> contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its 
> primary purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look 
> forward to hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I 
> appreciate any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>


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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-12-22 Thread TW Tones
arunn

Thread activity is unfortunately not a way to measure the success of a 
tool, but yes, its a great implementation

Tones

On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 07:31:35 UTC+11 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> Today only i got to explore this powerful tool and i was surprised to see 
> the lack of activity in this thread. Hope your fine Alan.
>
> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:42 AM UTC+5:30 aeroc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> myfta,
>>
>> *Column Templates *are used to modify the text or functionality of 
>> columns. 
>> There are three kinds of column templates: header, body and footer 
>> templates, and there are several built in.
>> Click "manage column templates" under "Columns" in the edit menu to 
>> choose a different template for a particular field/index.
>> This link 
>>  
>> has more information about the template concept.
>>
>> *CSS* is used to modify the appearance of columns. 
>> There are a few built in stylesheets that can be edited under "Theme 
>> (Stylesheet)" section of the edit menu.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:42:04 PM UTC-6, myfta wrote:
>>>
>>> So how might I format the column headings from my field names to 
>>> something perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
 community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
 TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and 
 outs 
 of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been 
 gradually 
 improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
 recently and would like to share it with the community. 

 The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet 
 is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that 
 strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it 
 in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link 
 contains 
 installation instructions and examples:

 http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

 There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its 
 primary purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look 
 forward to hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I 
 appreciate any feedback. 

 Thanks,
 Alan Aldrich

>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-12-22 Thread arun babu
Today only i got to explore this powerful tool and i was surprised to see 
the lack of activity in this thread. Hope your fine Alan.

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:42 AM UTC+5:30 aeroc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> myfta,
>
> *Column Templates *are used to modify the text or functionality of 
> columns. 
> There are three kinds of column templates: header, body and footer 
> templates, and there are several built in.
> Click "manage column templates" under "Columns" in the edit menu to choose 
> a different template for a particular field/index.
> This link 
>  
> has more information about the template concept.
>
> *CSS* is used to modify the appearance of columns. 
> There are a few built in stylesheets that can be edited under "Theme 
> (Stylesheet)" section of the edit menu.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:42:04 PM UTC-6, myfta wrote:
>>
>> So how might I format the column headings from my field names to 
>> something perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
>>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
>>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
>>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>>
>>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet 
>>> is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that 
>>> strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it 
>>> in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
>>> installation instructions and examples:
>>>
>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its 
>>> primary purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look 
>>> forward to hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I 
>>> appreciate any feedback. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan Aldrich
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-02-10 Thread Alan Aldrich
myfta,

*Column Templates *are used to modify the text or functionality of columns. 
There are three kinds of column templates: header, body and footer 
templates, and there are several built in.
Click "manage column templates" under "Columns" in the edit menu to choose 
a different template for a particular field/index.
This link 
 
has more information about the template concept.

*CSS* is used to modify the appearance of columns. 
There are a few built in stylesheets that can be edited under "Theme 
(Stylesheet)" section of the edit menu.

Hope this helps,
Alan


On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:42:04 PM UTC-6, myfta wrote:
>
> So how might I format the column headings from my field names to something 
> perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?
>
>
>
> On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>
>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
>> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
>> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
>> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
>> installation instructions and examples:
>>
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
>> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
>> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
>> any feedback. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan Aldrich
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-02-10 Thread myfta
So how might I format the column headings from my field names to something 
perhaps more user-friendly and formatted differently?



On Monday, 9 September 2019 20:01:41 UTC+1, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-02-09 Thread Mohammad
Many  thanks Alan.

TiddlyTables is one of the great 

On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:33:47 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad, 
> These are both inherent limitations of working with index values in 
> TiddlyTables. Let me explain...
>
> In your first example, you are trying to sort by an index. There is no 
> simple way to do this in TiddlyWiki and because the table is generated by a 
> filter, no simple way to do this in TiddlyTables. 
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LJpK7t31G98/discussion
> Here is a thread discussing this issue, and a couple macro-based 
> solutions. In fact, you replied that you would try one of the solutions in 
> your Dynamic Tables plugin. Did you have any success? any 
>
 

> suggestions?
>


Well I used a modified solution by Eric Shulman,


   1. create a list of value===tiddler name
   2. sort the new list of value===tiddler name

here === is connector and is used to create an item. In other word as it is 
difficult to create a two dimensional array, one appends the tiddler title 
to end of value for same index (e.g. column)
after sorting gets back the title and display records.
something like this

\define tableFilter_indexes()  [enlist]+[$(sortneg)$$(sortType)$[]]

\define getitems()<$set name=Index tiddler=<> 
index="sortIndex"><$list filter="[subfilter!has[draft.of]]" 
><$text text="[["/>{{{ [getindexaddsuffix[°≡°]] 
}}}<><$text text="]]"/>
\end

 
where

\define display_body_indexes()<$wikify name="items" text=<> > <$list 
filter=<> variable="currentItem" ><$list 
filter="[split[°≡°]last[]]" variable="currentRecord">
 <>
\end

 

> In your second example, you want the plugin to intelligently determine 
> whether to create a new field "ic" or a new index "ic". the way the plugin 
> works is if a field exists with that name it will take precedence over the 
> index. I opted for a simplicity here though I suppose the plugin could make 
> a more advanced decision based on whether that index exists and whether 
> there is already data in the text field. That is the main reason it 
> defaults to field instead of index. There is a risk of accidentally 
> overwriting existing data in the text field if you inadvertently "create an 
> index" by editing.
>
> I agree the documentation could be improved. I wish I had more time. I 
> plan to add something to this effect:
>
> There are some limitations when using indexes as columns. This is due to 
> inherent limitations of index support in filters. The most noticeable is 
> that *index values cannot be sorted*. A mix of fields and indexes can be 
> used as columns in a single table, but there is no way for the user to 
> distinguish a "field" column from an "index" column. If an index and field 
> exist with the same name, it is possible to have a mix of index values and 
> field values in a single column. If a tiddler has both a field and index 
> with the same name or if neither exist, the *field* value will always 
> take precedence whether viewing or editing. 
>
>
Good, this worth to be added to docs.
 

> Thank you for pointing this out. I hope this helps,
> Alan
>


Thanks Alan. TiddlyTables is one the projects shows how amazing, 
sophisticated  and powerful tools can be made using Tiddlywiki with modular 
design.
 

 

>
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 10:44:05 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>  In the latest version of Tiddlytables there seem some small issues
>>
>> A. sort 
>> i. create several data tiddlers tagged with xx like tid1, tid2, tid3,...
>> ii. add an index/value as myindex
>> iii. give different numerical values like 1, 10, 111, 1000
>> v. create a table and sort on myindex
>>
>> The sort does not work.
>>
>>
>> B. edit mode
>> i. create a tiddler of several dataTiddler all tagged with xx and all 
>> with indexes like ia, ib, ic except tid1 which hs indexes ia and ib
>> ii go to edit mode and edit ic for tid1 in the table
>> iii. Tiddlytables creates field ic, while here it is desired to create 
>> index ic
>>
>>
>> C. documentation
>> as TiddlyTables now supports both fields/indexes, the documentation needs 
>> to be improved to reflect this. The current docs are based on table from 
>> fields.
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-02-09 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hi Mohammad, 
These are both inherent limitations of working with index values in 
TiddlyTables. Let me explain...

In your first example, you are trying to sort by an index. There is no 
simple way to do this in TiddlyWiki and because the table is generated by a 
filter, no simple way to do this in TiddlyTables. 
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/LJpK7t31G98/discussion
Here is a thread discussing this issue, and a couple macro-based solutions. 
In fact, you replied that you would try one of the solutions in your 
Dynamic Tables plugin. Did you have any success? any suggestions?

In your second example, you want the plugin to intelligently determine 
whether to create a new field "ic" or a new index "ic". the way the plugin 
works is if a field exists with that name it will take precedence over the 
index. I opted for a simplicity here though I suppose the plugin could make 
a more advanced decision based on whether that index exists and whether 
there is already data in the text field. That is the main reason it 
defaults to field instead of index. There is a risk of accidentally 
overwriting existing data in the text field if you inadvertently "create an 
index" by editing.

I agree the documentation could be improved. I wish I had more time. I plan 
to add something to this effect:

There are some limitations when using indexes as columns. This is due to 
inherent limitations of index support in filters. The most noticeable is 
that *index values cannot be sorted*. A mix of fields and indexes can be 
used as columns in a single table, but there is no way for the user to 
distinguish a "field" column from an "index" column. If an index and field 
exist with the same name, it is possible to have a mix of index values and 
field values in a single column. If a tiddler has both a field and index 
with the same name or if neither exist, the *field* value will always take 
precedence whether viewing or editing. 

Thank you for pointing this out. I hope this helps,
Alan


On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 10:44:05 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  In the latest version of Tiddlytables there seem some small issues
>
> A. sort 
> i. create several data tiddlers tagged with xx like tid1, tid2, tid3,...
> ii. add an index/value as myindex
> iii. give different numerical values like 1, 10, 111, 1000
> v. create a table and sort on myindex
>
> The sort does not work.
>
>
> B. edit mode
> i. create a tiddler of several dataTiddler all tagged with xx and all with 
> indexes like ia, ib, ic except tid1 which hs indexes ia and ib
> ii go to edit mode and edit ic for tid1 in the table
> iii. Tiddlytables creates field ic, while here it is desired to create 
> index ic
>
>
> C. documentation
> as TiddlyTables now supports both fields/indexes, the documentation needs 
> to be improved to reflect this. The current docs are based on table from 
> fields.
>
> --Mohammad
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2020-02-08 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alan,
 In the latest version of Tiddlytables there seem some small issues

A. sort 
i. create several data tiddlers tagged with xx like tid1, tid2, tid3,...
ii. add an index/value as myindex
iii. give different numerical values like 1, 10, 111, 1000
v. create a table and sort on myindex

The sort does not work.


B. edit mode
i. create a tiddler of several dataTiddler all tagged with xx and all with 
indexes like ia, ib, ic except tid1 which hs indexes ia and ib
ii go to edit mode and edit ic for tid1 in the table
iii. Tiddlytables creates field ic, while here it is desired to create 
index ic


C. documentation
as TiddlyTables now supports both fields/indexes, the documentation needs 
to be improved to reflect this. The current docs are based on table from 
fields.

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-16 Thread Mohammad
Alan,

Good to be added somewhere into documentation.

--Mohammad

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 12:12:28 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
>>
>>1. When the limit on the footer set to show all you, the pagination 
>>disappeared and you can not set a new limit and one has to edit the 
>> tiddler 
>>and set the tbl-limit field
>>
>> This is by design. The default value for *Show Pagination*
>  (tbl-show-pagination) is* auto*. This means it will only show pagination 
> if there are more records than what *Limit* (tbl-limit) is set to. 
> Alternatively, you can set tbl-show-pagination to true or false to force 
> it on or off. The default values for new tables can be changed in 
> *$:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/defaults.*
>  
>
>>
>>1. When the width set to some values less than 100% none of footer 
>>(pagination) nor the red strip (warning for delete all tiddlers) follow 
>> the 
>>width setting and occupy the 100% of tiddler width
>>
>> The reason these elements do not resize with the table is because they 
> are not part of the table. This is why the whole table (and these elements) 
> are wrapped in a containing  element. What you want to do is keep 
> *Table* (tbl-style-table) set to *width:100%; *and set *Container* 
> (tbl-style-container) to 
> whatever you like; for instance: *width:80%;*
>
> I hope this helps,
> Alan
>
>
> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 11:28:48 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> More comments
>>
>>1. When the limit on the footer set to show all you, the pagination 
>>disappeared and you can not set a new limit and one has to edit the 
>> tiddler 
>>and set the tbl-limit field
>>2. When the width set to some values less than 100% none of footer 
>>(pagination) nor the red strip (warning for delete all tiddlers) follow 
>> the 
>>width setting and occupy the 100% of tiddler width
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 10:35:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> TiddlyTables 0.6.20 is now available at: tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> This release includes:
>>>
>>>- New column template utilizing the Radio Widget. column* tbl-radio* 
>>>renders a radio input that sets field *tbl-selected-record* of the 
>>>current table to the selected record.
>>>- Title param included by default when clicking *new table button*.
>>>- *tbl-show-mode* - dedicated toggle in options menu (and defaults) 
>>>to toggle the mode button. Now the editor and mode buttons can be hidden 
>>>independently.
>>>- Several important Bugfixes.
>>>- Special thanks to Mohammad and Eric Shulman for their 
>>>contributions to this release.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:26:50 AM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 Mohammad, I thought about it and I cannot recall why I decided to go 
 that route. Another option would be to use the tag macro. My best guess is 
 I didn't know about either of these options at the time. I like the 
 simplicity of your suggested template and will change to it in the next 
 release. Thanks for pointing it out, excellent feedback as always!
 Alan

 On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I 
> think you can use the core template for this purpose.
>
> So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
> replace the content with below
>
> >>
> <$tiddler 
> tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
> 
>
> where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for 
> table cell
>
> .tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a 
>> fix.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Arlen,
>>>
>>> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>>>{{!!description}} This is a test
>>> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
>>> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
>>> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 Mohammad,
 I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
 aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
 enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a 
 few 
 new features that I will 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-16 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hi Mohammad,

>
>1. When the limit on the footer set to show all you, the pagination 
>disappeared and you can not set a new limit and one has to edit the 
> tiddler 
>and set the tbl-limit field
>
> This is by design. The default value for *Show Pagination*
 (tbl-show-pagination) is* auto*. This means it will only show pagination 
if there are more records than what *Limit* (tbl-limit) is set to. 
Alternatively, you can set tbl-show-pagination to true or false to force it 
on or off. The default values for new tables can be changed in 
*$:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/defaults.*
 

>
>1. When the width set to some values less than 100% none of footer 
>(pagination) nor the red strip (warning for delete all tiddlers) follow 
> the 
>width setting and occupy the 100% of tiddler width
>
> The reason these elements do not resize with the table is because they are 
not part of the table. This is why the whole table (and these elements) are 
wrapped in a containing  element. What you want to do is keep *Table* 
(tbl-style-table) 
set to *width:100%; *and set *Container* (tbl-style-container) to whatever 
you like; for instance: *width:80%;*

I hope this helps,
Alan


On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 11:28:48 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> More comments
>
>1. When the limit on the footer set to show all you, the pagination 
>disappeared and you can not set a new limit and one has to edit the 
> tiddler 
>and set the tbl-limit field
>2. When the width set to some values less than 100% none of footer 
>(pagination) nor the red strip (warning for delete all tiddlers) follow 
> the 
>width setting and occupy the 100% of tiddler width
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 10:35:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> TiddlyTables 0.6.20 is now available at: tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> This release includes:
>>
>>- New column template utilizing the Radio Widget. column* tbl-radio* 
>>renders a radio input that sets field *tbl-selected-record* of the 
>>current table to the selected record.
>>- Title param included by default when clicking *new table button*.
>>- *tbl-show-mode* - dedicated toggle in options menu (and defaults) 
>>to toggle the mode button. Now the editor and mode buttons can be hidden 
>>independently.
>>- Several important Bugfixes.
>>- Special thanks to Mohammad and Eric Shulman for their contributions 
>>to this release.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:26:50 AM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad, I thought about it and I cannot recall why I decided to go 
>>> that route. Another option would be to use the tag macro. My best guess is 
>>> I didn't know about either of these options at the time. I like the 
>>> simplicity of your suggested template and will change to it in the next 
>>> release. Thanks for pointing it out, excellent feedback as always!
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Alan,
  I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I 
 think you can use the core template for this purpose.

 So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
 replace the content with below

 >>
 <$tiddler 
 tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
 

 where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for 
 table cell

 .tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }


 What do you think?

 --Mohammad

 On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a 
> fix.
>
> Best regards,
> Alan
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arlen,
>>
>> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>>{{!!description}} This is a test
>> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
>> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
>> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
>>> aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
>>> enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a 
>>> few 
>>> new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit 
>>> more 
>>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-15 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alan,

More comments

   1. When the limit on the footer set to show all you, the pagination 
   disappeared and you can not set a new limit and one has to edit the tiddler 
   and set the tbl-limit field
   2. When the width set to some values less than 100% none of footer 
   (pagination) nor the red strip (warning for delete all tiddlers) follow the 
   width setting and occupy the 100% of tiddler width



On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 10:35:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> TiddlyTables 0.6.20 is now available at: tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This release includes:
>
>- New column template utilizing the Radio Widget. column* tbl-radio* 
>renders a radio input that sets field *tbl-selected-record* of the 
>current table to the selected record.
>- Title param included by default when clicking *new table button*.
>- *tbl-show-mode* - dedicated toggle in options menu (and defaults) to 
>toggle the mode button. Now the editor and mode buttons can be hidden 
>independently.
>- Several important Bugfixes.
>- Special thanks to Mohammad and Eric Shulman for their contributions 
>to this release.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:26:50 AM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad, I thought about it and I cannot recall why I decided to go that 
>> route. Another option would be to use the tag macro. My best guess is I 
>> didn't know about either of these options at the time. I like the 
>> simplicity of your suggested template and will change to it in the next 
>> release. Thanks for pointing it out, excellent feedback as always!
>> Alan
>>
>> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>  I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I 
>>> think you can use the core template for this purpose.
>>>
>>> So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
>>> replace the content with below
>>>
>>> >>
>>> <$tiddler 
>>> tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
>>> 
>>>
>>> where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for 
>>> table cell
>>>
>>> .tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
 http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

 Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a fix.

 Best regards,
 Alan


 On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Arlen,
>
> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>{{!!description}} This is a test
> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
>> aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
>> enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a 
>> few 
>> new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit 
>> more 
>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
>>> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>>>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 Hi Mohammad,
 I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
 editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak 
 of. 
 Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
 modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being 
 edited 
 to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
 scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
 Take care,
 Alan


 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  These are great enhancements:
>
>- supporting data tiddlers
>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>
>
> Just a commend
> Editing a cell in a column used 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-15 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alan,
 - Please upgrade TW to 5.1.21 and if you like to 5.1.22p but 5.1.20 has 
some issues
 - If you put the project on GitHub you can have all issues reported in one 
place and archive them
 - People may contribute

As Diego asked if you have time or when you have it would be great to 
document the code for possible contribution and development
while it is also a learning resource.

Best
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-15 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Alan,

*This is great! Thank you!* May I suggest expanding the 
documentation/tutorials perhaps with community suggestions? 

On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 1:05:19 AM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> TiddlyTables 0.6.20 is now available at: tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
>
> This release includes:
>
>- New column template utilizing the Radio Widget. column* tbl-radio* 
>renders a radio input that sets field *tbl-selected-record* of the 
>current table to the selected record.
>- Title param included by default when clicking *new table button*.
>- *tbl-show-mode* - dedicated toggle in options menu (and defaults) to 
>toggle the mode button. Now the editor and mode buttons can be hidden 
>independently.
>- Several important Bugfixes.
>- Special thanks to Mohammad and Eric Shulman for their contributions 
>to this release.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:26:50 AM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad, I thought about it and I cannot recall why I decided to go that 
>> route. Another option would be to use the tag macro. My best guess is I 
>> didn't know about either of these options at the time. I like the 
>> simplicity of your suggested template and will change to it in the next 
>> release. Thanks for pointing it out, excellent feedback as always!
>> Alan
>>
>> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>  I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I 
>>> think you can use the core template for this purpose.
>>>
>>> So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
>>> replace the content with below
>>>
>>> >>
>>> <$tiddler 
>>> tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
>>> 
>>>
>>> where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for 
>>> table cell
>>>
>>> .tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
 http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

 Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a fix.

 Best regards,
 Alan


 On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Arlen,
>
> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>{{!!description}} This is a test
> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
>> aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
>> enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a 
>> few 
>> new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit 
>> more 
>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
>>> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>>>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 Hi Mohammad,
 I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
 editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak 
 of. 
 Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
 modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being 
 edited 
 to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
 scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
 Take care,
 Alan


 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  These are great enhancements:
>
>- supporting data tiddlers
>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>
>
> Just a commend
> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
> specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-15 Thread Mohammad
Brilliant!

It is an amazing resource of modular pure wikitext and show the power of 
Tiddlywiki transclusion/templating and abstraction!
I never could imagine how a complex table can itself suited inside a row of 
another table!

In my opinion TiddlyTable shows how effectively base classes (template) can 
be used to create complex UI

--Mohammad


On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 10:35:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> TiddlyTables 0.6.20 is now available at: tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This release includes:
>
>- New column template utilizing the Radio Widget. column* tbl-radio* 
>renders a radio input that sets field *tbl-selected-record* of the 
>current table to the selected record.
>- Title param included by default when clicking *new table button*.
>- *tbl-show-mode* - dedicated toggle in options menu (and defaults) to 
>toggle the mode button. Now the editor and mode buttons can be hidden 
>independently.
>- Several important Bugfixes.
>- Special thanks to Mohammad and Eric Shulman for their contributions 
>to this release.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:26:50 AM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad, I thought about it and I cannot recall why I decided to go that 
>> route. Another option would be to use the tag macro. My best guess is I 
>> didn't know about either of these options at the time. I like the 
>> simplicity of your suggested template and will change to it in the next 
>> release. Thanks for pointing it out, excellent feedback as always!
>> Alan
>>
>> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>  I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I 
>>> think you can use the core template for this purpose.
>>>
>>> So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
>>> replace the content with below
>>>
>>> >>
>>> <$tiddler 
>>> tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
>>> 
>>>
>>> where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for 
>>> table cell
>>>
>>> .tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
 http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

 Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a fix.

 Best regards,
 Alan


 On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Arlen,
>
> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>{{!!description}} This is a test
> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
>> aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
>> enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a 
>> few 
>> new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit 
>> more 
>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
>>> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>>>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 Hi Mohammad,
 I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
 editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak 
 of. 
 Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
 modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being 
 edited 
 to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
 scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
 Take care,
 Alan


 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  These are great enhancements:
>
>- supporting data tiddlers
>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>
>
> Just a commend
> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
> specially when the 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-14 Thread Alan Aldrich
TiddlyTables 0.6.20 is now available at: tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

This release includes:

   - New column template utilizing the Radio Widget. column* tbl-radio* 
   renders a radio input that sets field *tbl-selected-record* of the 
   current table to the selected record.
   - Title param included by default when clicking *new table button*.
   - *tbl-show-mode* - dedicated toggle in options menu (and defaults) to 
   toggle the mode button. Now the editor and mode buttons can be hidden 
   independently.
   - Several important Bugfixes.
   - Special thanks to Mohammad and Eric Shulman for their contributions to 
   this release.

 

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:26:50 AM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Mohammad, I thought about it and I cannot recall why I decided to go that 
> route. Another option would be to use the tag macro. My best guess is I 
> didn't know about either of these options at the time. I like the 
> simplicity of your suggested template and will change to it in the next 
> release. Thanks for pointing it out, excellent feedback as always!
> Alan
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>  I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I 
>> think you can use the core template for this purpose.
>>
>> So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
>> replace the content with below
>>
>> >>
>> <$tiddler 
>> tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
>> 
>>
>> where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for 
>> table cell
>>
>> .tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a fix.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Arlen,

 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
{{!!description}} This is a test
 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
 4. do you see the description correctly?

 --Mohammad


 On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
> aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
> enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few 
> new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit 
> more 
> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
> Alan
>
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Alan,
>>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
>> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>>
>>
>> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
>>> editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak 
>>> of. 
>>> Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
>>> modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being 
>>> edited 
>>> to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
>>> scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
>>> Take care,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Alan,
  These are great enhancements:

- supporting data tiddlers
- edit/read mode with toggle button


 Just a commend
 Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
 specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value

 --Mohammad


 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the 
> latest release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many 
> enhancements. 
> Here are some of the big ones:
>
>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>- Global default for edit mode
>- Toggle button for edit mode
>  

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-12 Thread Alan Aldrich
Mohammad, I thought about it and I cannot recall why I decided to go that 
route. Another option would be to use the tag macro. My best guess is I 
didn't know about either of these options at the time. I like the 
simplicity of your suggested template and will change to it in the next 
release. Thanks for pointing it out, excellent feedback as always!
Alan

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I 
> think you can use the core template for this purpose.
>
> So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
> replace the content with below
>
> >>
> <$tiddler 
> tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
> 
>
> where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for table 
> cell
>
> .tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a fix.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Arlen,
>>>
>>> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>>>{{!!description}} This is a test
>>> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
>>> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
>>> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 Mohammad,
 I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
 aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
 enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few 
 new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit 
 more 
 testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
 test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
 Alan

 On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Alan,
>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>
>
> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
>> editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. 
>> Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
>> modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being 
>> edited 
>> to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
>> scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
>> Take care,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>  These are great enhancements:
>>>
>>>- supporting data tiddlers
>>>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a commend
>>> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
>>> specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 All,

 I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
 release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. 
 Here 
 are some of the big ones:

- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
- Global default for edit mode
- Toggle button for edit mode
- Tooltips
- New edit template
- Style/theme improvements
- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes

 Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your 
 comments inspired most of these updates.

 Cheers,
 Alan


 On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case 
>> there are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post 
>> something 
>> on TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big 
>> milestone is 
>> the 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-12 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alan,
 I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I think 
you can use the core template for this purpose.

So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
replace the content with below

>>
<$tiddler 
tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}


where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for table 
cell

.tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }


What do you think?

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a fix.
>
> Best regards,
> Alan
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arlen,
>>
>> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>>{{!!description}} This is a test
>> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
>> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
>> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
>>> aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
>>> enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few 
>>> new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit more 
>>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Alan,
  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
 transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
  See HC Haase bug report here:

 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ


 I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 


 --Mohammad

 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
> editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. 
> Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
> modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited 
> to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
> scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
> Take care,
> Alan
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>  These are great enhancements:
>>
>>- supporting data tiddlers
>>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>>
>>
>> Just a commend
>> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
>> specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
>>> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. 
>>> Here 
>>> are some of the big ones:
>>>
>>>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>>>- Global default for edit mode
>>>- Toggle button for edit mode
>>>- Tooltips
>>>- New edit template
>>>- Style/theme improvements
>>>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>>>
>>> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your 
>>> comments inspired most of these updates.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Alan

 On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case 
> there are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post 
> something 
> on TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big 
> milestone is 
> the 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing 
> use 
> cases, documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you 
> for your 
> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>
> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to 
 get more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
 Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very 
 interesting! 

 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-10 Thread Alan Aldrich
Thanks Tony,
I agree wholeheartedly. I envision a library with hundreds of themes and 
column templates that can be dragged into a wiki, as well as code snippets 
and usage examples. The modular design lends itself to such a library. Yes, 
you are correct. The table that contains the "tbl-" fields can be dragged 
into another wiki. if it does not contain the macro call <> in its 
text field then the only additional step would be to add that in the 
imported tiddler or in another tiddler with the title parameter. ie <>. But of course it will not currently export the 
associated record tiddlers. I like the idea of exporting an entire table 
including the data. Perhaps the plugin/shadow mechanism could be used to 
pack the whole table and records into a single tiddler and then after 
dragging into a new wiki it can be unpacked. Just thinking out loud, but 
one way or another that is a good idea that merits further investigation. 
.

On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 11:46:29 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> As earlier this is great. Like all the great developments in tiddlywiki it 
> provides flexibility and productivity.
>
> I would be keen to see an "aftermarket" in tiddlytables where productive, 
> supportive tables can be shared. 
>
> Am I correct in thinking as long as one has the plugin, most tables will 
> be represented by the single table tiddler? Thus a table can be exported as 
> the current tiddler, I can see creating a new export option that exports 
> the table and the tiddlers listed in the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) - 
> filter
>
> If not perhaps there is a way we can have an export table button. Of 
> course another one that also exports the data tiddlers would also be 
> welcome, these can be exported to a single json file.
>
> I am currently studying tiddlytables for the possibility of adding virtual 
> / calculated columns, or defining columns in the table not in the records 
> such that we can place macros or other wiki text in these columns. This is 
> not unlike the current special columns.
>
> Thanks so much
> Tony
>
> I expect it may be an extension of the 
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 3:24:35 PM UTC+11, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> I have uploaded the latest release of TiddlyTables 0.6.18 to 
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> There are some major changes since 0.6.15. Some of the big ones are:
>>
>>- Options Menu/UI
>>   - Column Templates can be created/assigned/edited from the options 
>>   menu. 
>>   - Style can be tweaked graphically in the options menu.
>>   - New themes can be created from the options menu.
>>- Using tags for assigning columns to templates has been replaced 
>>with the field tbl-column-list.
>>   - using tags still works for backwards compatibility
>>   - new field tbl-noedit in all templates allows similar assignment 
>>   of columns to prevent entering edit mode. 
>>- Ctrl-Enter will close the options menu similar to editing a tiddler.
>>- Transclusion issues/fixes
>>- Transclusion error trapping
>>   - New macro parameter, title.
>>  - example: <>
>>  - Allows the data fields for the table to be stored in a 
>>  tiddler you specify.
>>  - increases functionality and reduces transclusion errors when 
>>  used.
>>   
>> Please try out the new features and let me know what you think.
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 10:07:50 PM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
>>> aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
>>> enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few 
>>> new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit more 
>>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Alan,
  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
 transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
  See HC Haase bug report here:

 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ


 I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 


 --Mohammad

 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
> editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. 
> Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
> modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited 
> to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
> scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
> Take care,
> Alan
>

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-10 Thread Mohammad
Alan,
The nested transclusion works fine!

Thank you for updating

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a fix.
>
> Best regards,
> Alan
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arlen,
>>
>> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>>{{!!description}} This is a test
>> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
>> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
>> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
>>> aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
>>> enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few 
>>> new features that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit more 
>>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Alan,
  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
 transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
  See HC Haase bug report here:

 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ


 I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 


 --Mohammad

 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
> editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. 
> Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
> modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited 
> to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
> scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
> Take care,
> Alan
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>  These are great enhancements:
>>
>>- supporting data tiddlers
>>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>>
>>
>> Just a commend
>> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
>> specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
>>> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. 
>>> Here 
>>> are some of the big ones:
>>>
>>>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>>>- Global default for edit mode
>>>- Toggle button for edit mode
>>>- Tooltips
>>>- New edit template
>>>- Style/theme improvements
>>>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>>>
>>> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your 
>>> comments inspired most of these updates.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Alan

 On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case 
> there are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post 
> something 
> on TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big 
> milestone is 
> the 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing 
> use 
> cases, documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you 
> for your 
> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>
> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to 
 get more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
 Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very 
 interesting! 

 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-10 Thread Alan Aldrich
Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a fix.

Best regards,
Alan


On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Arlen,
>
> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>{{!!description}} This is a test
> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been aware 
>> of some issues with transclusion and have include some major enhancements 
>> in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few new features 
>> that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit more 
>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
>>> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>>>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 Hi Mohammad,
 I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
 editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. 
 Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
 modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited 
 to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
 scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
 Take care,
 Alan


 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  These are great enhancements:
>
>- supporting data tiddlers
>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>
>
> Just a commend
> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
> specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
>> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
>> are some of the big ones:
>>
>>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>>- Global default for edit mode
>>- Toggle button for edit mode
>>- Tooltips
>>- New edit template
>>- Style/theme improvements
>>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>>
>> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your 
>> comments inspired most of these updates.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case 
 there are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post 
 something 
 on TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone 
 is 
 the 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing 
 use 
 cases, documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for 
 your 
 feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.

 I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to 
>>> get more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
>>> Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very 
>>> interesting! 
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-10 Thread Mohammad
Hi Arlen,

1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
   {{!!description}} This is a test
2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
4. do you see the description correctly?

--Mohammad


On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been aware 
> of some issues with transclusion and have include some major enhancements 
> in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few new features 
> that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit more 
> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
> Alan
>
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Alan,
>>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
>> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>>
>>
>> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling editing 
>>> of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. Another 
>>> similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by modified date. 
>>> The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited to lose focus. I 
>>> am still looking for a solution that will handle all scenarios of this 
>>> issue. more to come. 
>>> Take care,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Alan,
  These are great enhancements:

- supporting data tiddlers
- edit/read mode with toggle button


 Just a commend
 Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
 specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value

 --Mohammad


 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
> are some of the big ones:
>
>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>- Global default for edit mode
>- Toggle button for edit mode
>- Tooltips
>- New edit template
>- Style/theme improvements
>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>
> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your comments 
> inspired most of these updates.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case 
>>> there are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post 
>>> something 
>>> on TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone 
>>> is 
>>> the 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing 
>>> use 
>>> cases, documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for 
>>> your 
>>> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>>>
>>> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get 
>> more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
>> Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-09 Thread TonyM
Alan,

As earlier this is great. Like all the great developments in tiddlywiki it 
provides flexibility and productivity.

I would be keen to see an "aftermarket" in tiddlytables where productive, 
supportive tables can be shared. 

Am I correct in thinking as long as one has the plugin, most tables will be 
represented by the single table tiddler? Thus a table can be exported as 
the current tiddler, I can see creating a new export option that exports 
the table and the tiddlers listed in the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) - 
filter

If not perhaps there is a way we can have an export table button. Of course 
another one that also exports the data tiddlers would also be welcome, 
these can be exported to a single json file.

I am currently studying tiddlytables for the possibility of adding virtual 
/ calculated columns, or defining columns in the table not in the records 
such that we can place macros or other wiki text in these columns. This is 
not unlike the current special columns.

Thanks so much
Tony

I expect it may be an extension of the 

On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 3:24:35 PM UTC+11, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> I have uploaded the latest release of TiddlyTables 0.6.18 to 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There are some major changes since 0.6.15. Some of the big ones are:
>
>- Options Menu/UI
>   - Column Templates can be created/assigned/edited from the options 
>   menu. 
>   - Style can be tweaked graphically in the options menu.
>   - New themes can be created from the options menu.
>- Using tags for assigning columns to templates has been replaced with 
>the field tbl-column-list.
>   - using tags still works for backwards compatibility
>   - new field tbl-noedit in all templates allows similar assignment 
>   of columns to prevent entering edit mode. 
>- Ctrl-Enter will close the options menu similar to editing a tiddler.
>- Transclusion issues/fixes
>- Transclusion error trapping
>   - New macro parameter, title.
>  - example: <>
>  - Allows the data fields for the table to be stored in a tiddler 
>  you specify.
>  - increases functionality and reduces transclusion errors when 
>  used.
>   
> Please try out the new features and let me know what you think.
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
> On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 10:07:50 PM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been aware 
>> of some issues with transclusion and have include some major enhancements 
>> in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few new features 
>> that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit more 
>> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
>> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
>>> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>>>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 Hi Mohammad,
 I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling 
 editing of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. 
 Another similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by 
 modified date. The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited 
 to lose focus. I am still looking for a solution that will handle all 
 scenarios of this issue. more to come. 
 Take care,
 Alan


 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  These are great enhancements:
>
>- supporting data tiddlers
>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>
>
> Just a commend
> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
> specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
>> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
>> are some of the big ones:
>>
>>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>>- Global default for edit mode
>>- Toggle button for edit mode
>>- Tooltips
>>- New edit template
>>- Style/theme improvements
>>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>>
>> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your 
>> comments inspired most of these updates.
>>

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-09 Thread Alan Aldrich
I have uploaded the latest release of TiddlyTables 0.6.18 to 
http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

There are some major changes since 0.6.15. Some of the big ones are:

   - Options Menu/UI
  - Column Templates can be created/assigned/edited from the options 
  menu. 
  - Style can be tweaked graphically in the options menu.
  - New themes can be created from the options menu.
   - Using tags for assigning columns to templates has been replaced with 
   the field tbl-column-list.
  - using tags still works for backwards compatibility
  - new field tbl-noedit in all templates allows similar assignment of 
  columns to prevent entering edit mode. 
   - Ctrl-Enter will close the options menu similar to editing a tiddler.
   - Transclusion issues/fixes
   - Transclusion error trapping
  - New macro parameter, title.
 - example: <>
 - Allows the data fields for the table to be stored in a tiddler 
 you specify.
 - increases functionality and reduces transclusion errors when 
 used.
  
Please try out the new features and let me know what you think.
Cheers,
Alan


On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 10:07:50 PM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
> I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been aware 
> of some issues with transclusion and have include some major enhancements 
> in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few new features 
> that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit more 
> testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
> test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
> Alan
>
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Alan,
>>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about 
>> transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>>
>>
>> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling editing 
>>> of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. Another 
>>> similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by modified date. 
>>> The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited to lose focus. I 
>>> am still looking for a solution that will handle all scenarios of this 
>>> issue. more to come. 
>>> Take care,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Alan,
  These are great enhancements:

- supporting data tiddlers
- edit/read mode with toggle button


 Just a commend
 Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
 specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value

 --Mohammad


 On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
 wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
> are some of the big ones:
>
>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>- Global default for edit mode
>- Toggle button for edit mode
>- Tooltips
>- New edit template
>- Style/theme improvements
>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>
> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your comments 
> inspired most of these updates.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case 
>>> there are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post 
>>> something 
>>> on TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone 
>>> is 
>>> the 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing 
>>> use 
>>> cases, documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for 
>>> your 
>>> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>>>
>>> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get 
>> more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
>> Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-09 Thread Alan Aldrich
Mohammad,
I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been aware 
of some issues with transclusion and have include some major enhancements 
in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a few new features 
that I will highlight in my next post. I think with a bit more 
testing/tweaks we can call this thing a stable 1.0. Please feel free to 
test/break it as much as you can. Thank you for your support,
Alan

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:47:17 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Alan,
>  The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about transclusion 
> a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
>  See HC Haase bug report here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ
>
>
> I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 
>
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling editing 
>> of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. Another 
>> similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by modified date. 
>> The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited to lose focus. I 
>> am still looking for a solution that will handle all scenarios of this 
>> issue. more to come. 
>> Take care,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>  These are great enhancements:
>>>
>>>- supporting data tiddlers
>>>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a commend
>>> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses 
>>> specially when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 All,

 I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
 release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
 are some of the big ones:

- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
- Global default for edit mode
- Toggle button for edit mode
- Tooltips
- New edit template
- Style/theme improvements
- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes

 Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your comments 
 inspired most of these updates.

 Cheers,
 Alan


 On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there 
>> are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
>> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is 
>> the 
>> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use 
>> cases, 
>> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
>> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>>
>> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get 
> more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
> Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 
>
> --Mohammad
>


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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-09 Thread Eric Shulman
I have unpinned this topic.  If there is a reason to re-pin it... just ask.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Alan,
 The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about transclusion 
a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields.
 See HC Haase bug report here:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ


I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<> 


--Mohammad

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling editing 
> of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. Another 
> similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by modified date. 
> The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited to lose focus. I 
> am still looking for a solution that will handle all scenarios of this 
> issue. more to come. 
> Take care,
> Alan
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>  These are great enhancements:
>>
>>- supporting data tiddlers
>>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>>
>>
>> Just a commend
>> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses specially 
>> when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
>>> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
>>> are some of the big ones:
>>>
>>>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>>>- Global default for edit mode
>>>- Toggle button for edit mode
>>>- Tooltips
>>>- New edit template
>>>- Style/theme improvements
>>>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>>>
>>> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your comments 
>>> inspired most of these updates.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Alan

 On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there 
> are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is 
> the 
> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use 
> cases, 
> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>
> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get 
 more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
 Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 

 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
> TiddlyTables is quite powerful now but it needs more documentation and 
> example to simply be learned by new users.
> Yes, the *focus loses* needs to be investigated and the best solution 
> introduced!
>
> I hope other users give their feedback!
>

As an end-user. Lots I could say. I have three main observations ...

The SORTING of columns is the best I have seen in TW. It has been done a 
few times before but this is the best I have seen. Elegant, minimal UI. 
Works.

 *Suggestion*: A self-contained plugin that simply sorts tables could be a 
spin-off that would be widely adopted?


The MODULARITY is very helpful to users like me who want to use but don't 
understand code or want to get into it. I agree with Mohammad that its a 
great example to learn from about how to modularise.

The COMPLEXITY/RICHNESS is brilliant. But I think you need an example that 
starts "minimal" and then, through simpler steps, works up to "maximal".  
(Hope that is clear!)

Great tool!
Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-05 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alan,
TiddlyTables is quite powerful now but it needs more documentation and 
example to simply be learned by new users.
Yes, the *focus loses* needs to be investigated and the best solution 
introduced!

I hope other users give their feedback!

--Mohammad

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:54:24 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling editing 
> of columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. Another 
> similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by modified date. 
> The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited to lose focus. I 
> am still looking for a solution that will handle all scenarios of this 
> issue. more to come. 
> Take care,
> Alan
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>  These are great enhancements:
>>
>>- supporting data tiddlers
>>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>>
>>
>> Just a commend
>> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses specially 
>> when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
>>> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
>>> are some of the big ones:
>>>
>>>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>>>- Global default for edit mode
>>>- Toggle button for edit mode
>>>- Tooltips
>>>- New edit template
>>>- Style/theme improvements
>>>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>>>
>>> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your comments 
>>> inspired most of these updates.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Alan

 On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there 
> are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is 
> the 
> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use 
> cases, 
> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>
> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get 
 more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
 Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 

 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-05 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hi Mohammad,
I experimented with the concept you used in your wiki, disabling editing of 
columns that are sorted. I understand the issue you speak of. Another 
similar issue occurs when editing a table that is sorted by modified date. 
The sorting jumps around and causes the field being edited to lose focus. I 
am still looking for a solution that will handle all scenarios of this 
issue. more to come. 
Take care,
Alan


On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  These are great enhancements:
>
>- supporting data tiddlers
>- edit/read mode with toggle button
>
>
> Just a commend
> Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses specially 
> when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
>> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
>> are some of the big ones:
>>
>>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>>- Global default for edit mode
>>- Toggle button for edit mode
>>- Tooltips
>>- New edit template
>>- Style/theme improvements
>>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>>
>> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your comments 
>> inspired most of these updates.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there 
 are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
 TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is the 
 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use 
 cases, 
 documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
 feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.

 I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get 
>>> more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
>>> Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-05 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alan,
 These are great enhancements:

   - supporting data tiddlers
   - edit/read mode with toggle button


Just a commend
Editing a cell in a column used to sort table may loose focuses specially 
when the edited cell move up/down based on the new value

--Mohammad


On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest 
> release of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here 
> are some of the big ones:
>
>- Added Support for Data Tiddlers
>- Global default for edit mode
>- Toggle button for edit mode
>- Tooltips
>- New edit template
>- Style/theme improvements
>- Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes
>
> Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your comments 
> inspired most of these updates.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there 
>>> are some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
>>> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is the 
>>> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use cases, 
>>> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
>>> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>>>
>>> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get 
>> more feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
>> Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-04 Thread Alan Aldrich
All,

I have updated http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ with the latest release 
of TiddlyTables. Version 0.6.15 includes many enhancements. Here are some 
of the big ones:

   - Added Support for Data Tiddlers
   - Global default for edit mode
   - Toggle button for edit mode
   - Tooltips
   - New edit template
   - Style/theme improvements
   - Minor UI improvements and Bugfixes

Many thanks Mohammad! The example you shared and some of your comments 
inspired most of these updates.

Cheers,
Alan


On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:19:50 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there are 
>> some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
>> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is the 
>> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use cases, 
>> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
>> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>>
>> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get more 
> feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
> Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-04 Thread Mohammad
Alan

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> I would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there are 
> some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is the 
> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use cases, 
> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>
> I think this needs to discuss different part of the code here to get more 
feedback! TiddlyTables has hundreds line of code!
Your tiddler approach in developing TiddlyTables is very interesting! 

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-04 Thread Mohammad
You are welcome!
I think TiddlyTable worth to have an Edition
See https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Editions

--Mohammad




On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 9:16:12 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> I see what you mean. The action to delete the state tiddler 
> "$:/temp/tables/delete-all" does not need to be inside the list on the 
> confirm button and the list doesn't need to exist on the cancel button. 
> Good catch! I will correct that on the next release.
>
> BTW, per your last message, I have added support for data-dictionary 
> tiddlers and index values. I will update 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ and send out an announcement later 
> today hopefully.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 10:53:41 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alen,
>>
>>  In the code
>>
>> <$reveal class="tbl-delete-confirm" type="match" 
>> state="$:/temp/tables/delete-all!!text" text=<> tag="div">
>> Delete all displayed records? 
>> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
>>   <$list filter=<> variable="currentRecord">
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $index=<
>> > $value=""/>
>> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<>/>
>>  <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/tables/delete-all"/>
>>   
>>   {{$:/core/images/delete-button}} ''yes'' 
>>  or 
>> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
>>   <$list filter=<> variable="currentRecord">
>> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/tables/delete-all"/>
>>   
>>   {{$:/core/images/close-button}} ''no'' 
>> 
>>   
>>
>> Why you put highlighted command inside $list widget?
>>
>>
>> -Mohammad
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>> I updated TiddlyTables with an enhancement I hope you enjoy - *read/edit 
>>> mode toggle for all columns*. 
>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>> Victor's request got me thinking this should be a standard feature. 
>>> There is a new option under "Editor/Mode" in the edit menu called "Mode". 
>>> This dropdown is linked to the field "tbl-mode" of a table. When set to 
>>> "edit" it causes all fields to use the edit template. Some columns like 
>>> title, modified and created are excluded. I plan to document this feature 
>>> in more detail soon. Please give it a try and let me know what you think. 
>>> Additionally, I corrected an issue with the delete column. It should work 
>>> better now.
>>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>> I would like to eventually get TiddlyTables and maybe the Task Manager 
>>> into the plugin directory. Both plugins are still in beta as I wanted to 
>>> get feedback from the community before rolling to v1.0. The Task Manager 
>>> could be refined a bit more and I would like to develop a little more 
>>> documentation for it and TiddlyTables before I promote them too much. I 
>>> would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there are 
>>> some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
>>> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is the 
>>> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use cases, 
>>> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
>>> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>>>
>>> TT,
>>> Not sure what z_tag was but I removed it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 8:14:37 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 Why has this thread got a tag " z_tag " 
 ? What is 
 that about?

 I added a " tables " tag to the thread.

 Tagging is good in  GG (web version). Very helpful when you search 
 later. 
 Your major search tag should likely be " tables ".

 This gets it at the moment: GG search on author & subject 
 
 .

 Best wishes
 TT 

 On Monday, 9 September 2019 21:01:41 UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and 
> outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been 
> gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet 
> is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that 
> strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display 
> it 
> in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link 
> contains 
> installation instructions and examples:

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-04 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hi Mohammad,
The delete button in the header template: 
$:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/header/delete 

 creates 
the "state" tiddler: $:/temp/tables/delete-all. This tiddler ensures there 
is at least one record in the list and causes the delete confirmation to 
reveal above the table. If the user confirms or cancels the delete, this 
state tiddler must be deleted to hide the confirmation.

BTW, per your last message, I have added support for data-dictionary 
tiddlers and index values. I will 
update http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/ and send out an announcement 
later today hopefully.


On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 10:53:41 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alen,
>
>  In the code
>
> <$reveal class="tbl-delete-confirm" type="match" 
> state="$:/temp/tables/delete-all!!text" text=<> tag="div">
> Delete all displayed records? 
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
>   <$list filter=<> variable="currentRecord">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $index=<
> > $value=""/>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<>/>
>  <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/tables/delete-all"/>
>   
>   {{$:/core/images/delete-button}} ''yes'' 
>  or 
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
>   <$list filter=<> variable="currentRecord">
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/tables/delete-all"/>
>   
>   {{$:/core/images/close-button}} ''no'' 
> 
>   
>
> Why you put highlighted command inside $list widget?
>
>
> -Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> All,
>> I updated TiddlyTables with an enhancement I hope you enjoy - *read/edit 
>> mode toggle for all columns*. 
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>> Victor's request got me thinking this should be a standard feature. There 
>> is a new option under "Editor/Mode" in the edit menu called "Mode". This 
>> dropdown is linked to the field "tbl-mode" of a table. When set to "edit" 
>> it causes all fields to use the edit template. Some columns like title, 
>> modified and created are excluded. I plan to document this feature in more 
>> detail soon. Please give it a try and let me know what you think. 
>> Additionally, I corrected an issue with the delete column. It should work 
>> better now.
>>
>> Mohammad,
>> I would like to eventually get TiddlyTables and maybe the Task Manager 
>> into the plugin directory. Both plugins are still in beta as I wanted to 
>> get feedback from the community before rolling to v1.0. The Task Manager 
>> could be refined a bit more and I would like to develop a little more 
>> documentation for it and TiddlyTables before I promote them too much. I 
>> would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there are 
>> some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
>> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is the 
>> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use cases, 
>> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
>> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>>
>> TT,
>> Not sure what z_tag was but I removed it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 8:14:37 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Why has this thread got a tag " z_tag " 
>>> ? What is that 
>>> about?
>>>
>>> I added a " tables " tag to the thread.
>>>
>>> Tagging is good in  GG (web version). Very helpful when you search 
>>> later. 
>>> Your major search tag should likely be " tables ".
>>>
>>> This gets it at the moment: GG search on author & subject 
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT 
>>>
>>> On Monday, 9 September 2019 21:01:41 UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
 community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
 TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and 
 outs 
 of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been 
 gradually 
 improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
 recently and would like to share it with the community. 

 The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet 
 is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that 
 strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it 
 in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link 
 contains 
 installation instructions and examples:

 http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

 There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-04 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alen,

 In the code

<$reveal class="tbl-delete-confirm" type="match" 
state="$:/temp/tables/delete-all!!text" text=<> tag="div">
Delete all displayed records? 
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
  <$list filter=<> variable="currentRecord">
<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $index=<
> $value=""/>
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<>/>
 <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/tables/delete-all"/>
  
  {{$:/core/images/delete-button}} ''yes'' 
 or 
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
  <$list filter=<> variable="currentRecord">
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/tables/delete-all"/>
  
  {{$:/core/images/close-button}} ''no'' 

  

Why you put highlighted command inside $list widget?


-Mohammad

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 3:32:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> All,
> I updated TiddlyTables with an enhancement I hope you enjoy - *read/edit 
> mode toggle for all columns*. 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
> Victor's request got me thinking this should be a standard feature. There 
> is a new option under "Editor/Mode" in the edit menu called "Mode". This 
> dropdown is linked to the field "tbl-mode" of a table. When set to "edit" 
> it causes all fields to use the edit template. Some columns like title, 
> modified and created are excluded. I plan to document this feature in more 
> detail soon. Please give it a try and let me know what you think. 
> Additionally, I corrected an issue with the delete column. It should work 
> better now.
>
> Mohammad,
> I would like to eventually get TiddlyTables and maybe the Task Manager 
> into the plugin directory. Both plugins are still in beta as I wanted to 
> get feedback from the community before rolling to v1.0. The Task Manager 
> could be refined a bit more and I would like to develop a little more 
> documentation for it and TiddlyTables before I promote them too much. I 
> would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there are 
> some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
> TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is the 
> 1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use cases, 
> documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
> feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.
>
> TT,
> Not sure what z_tag was but I removed it.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
> On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 8:14:37 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Why has this thread got a tag " z_tag " 
>> ? What is that 
>> about?
>>
>> I added a " tables " tag to the thread.
>>
>> Tagging is good in  GG (web version). Very helpful when you search later. 
>> Your major search tag should likely be " tables ".
>>
>> This gets it at the moment: GG search on author & subject 
>> 
>> .
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT 
>>
>> On Monday, 9 September 2019 21:01:41 UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
>>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
>>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
>>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>>
>>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet 
>>> is a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that 
>>> strength by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it 
>>> in a tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
>>> installation instructions and examples:
>>>
>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its 
>>> primary purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look 
>>> forward to hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I 
>>> appreciate any feedback. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan Aldrich
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-02 Thread HansWobbe
@ Alan:

I added the "z_tag" tag and so must apologize for not checking with you 
first.

I am very fond of TiddlyTables and as a result I tagged your Introductory 
post that way as part of a test to see if using Tags is an effective way to 
help folks find useful things in this googleGroups environment. 

Regards,
Hans

@ TT:

Since Tags are displayed in alphabetical order, I used the "z_"... to push 
the tag to the left.  This is useful in a positionalNotation since that 
effectively corresponds to the use of indices in a coordinate system ( like 
the 128 x 256 x 256 x 256 unicode structure ) since Groups, Sheets, Rows 
and Columns can also be used to associate attributes to the dimensions of 
higher dimensional arrays.

I know; TMI = T(oo) M(uch) I(nformation).  But you did ask. :-)

Cheers,
Hans


TT,
> Not sure what z_tag was but I removed it.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
> On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 8:14:37 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Why has this thread got a tag " z_tag " 
>> ? What is that 
>> about?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-02 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alan,
 This is really great! 
It is funny, I tried to make editable tables based on TiddlyTables in few 
last days! I sent a version for your review comments

By the way some initial feedback


   1. When you are in edit mode and you sort a column, then you cannot edit 
   it at the same time
   2. Tiddlywiki will lose its focus if you change cell values of sorted 
   column
   3. You may freeze the column table sorted by it (that is what I did in 
   my simple version)

You may also add feature to generate table NOT only from fields by also 
from index:values from json and data tiddlers.


Many thanks for your elegant code and documentation!


Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-02 Thread Alan Aldrich
All,
I updated TiddlyTables with an enhancement I hope you enjoy - *read/edit 
mode toggle for all columns*. 
http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
Victor's request got me thinking this should be a standard feature. There 
is a new option under "Editor/Mode" in the edit menu called "Mode". This 
dropdown is linked to the field "tbl-mode" of a table. When set to "edit" 
it causes all fields to use the edit template. Some columns like title, 
modified and created are excluded. I plan to document this feature in more 
detail soon. Please give it a try and let me know what you think. 
Additionally, I corrected an issue with the delete column. It should work 
better now.

Mohammad,
I would like to eventually get TiddlyTables and maybe the Task Manager into 
the plugin directory. Both plugins are still in beta as I wanted to get 
feedback from the community before rolling to v1.0. The Task Manager could 
be refined a bit more and I would like to develop a little more 
documentation for it and TiddlyTables before I promote them too much. I 
would love to get more technical feedback on the code in case there are 
some optimizations that can be made. I may need to post something on 
TiddlyWikiDev for that. In any case, I think the next big milestone is the 
1.0 stable release. I want to make sure there aren't any missing use cases, 
documentation is adequate, and of course no bugs. Thank you for your 
feedback so far and thanks in advance for any future testing/feedback.

TT,
Not sure what z_tag was but I removed it.

Cheers,
Alan


On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 8:14:37 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Why has this thread got a tag " z_tag " 
> ? What is that 
> about?
>
> I added a " tables " tag to the thread.
>
> Tagging is good in  GG (web version). Very helpful when you search later. 
> Your major search tag should likely be " tables ".
>
> This gets it at the moment: GG search on author & subject 
> 
> .
>
> Best wishes
> TT 
>
> On Monday, 9 September 2019 21:01:41 UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>
>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
>> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
>> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
>> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
>> installation instructions and examples:
>>
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
>> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
>> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
>> any feedback. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan Aldrich
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-02 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Why has this thread got a tag " z_tag "? What is that about?

I added a " tables " tag to the thread.

Tagging is good in  GG (web version). Very helpful when you search later. 
Your major search tag should likely be " tables ".

This gets it at the moment: GG search on author & subject 

.

Best wishes
TT 

On Monday, 9 September 2019 21:01:41 UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-01 Thread Mohammad
Alan,
 It worth to introduce Task Manager plugin 

 
in a separate post to community!
 It is quite powerful and has many use cases.

http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Faaldrich%2Ftask-manager
Example 3: http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Introducing%20TiddlyTables


@David Gifford
Please add Task Manager to Tiddlywiki toolmap.


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-01 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Hans,
Considering the math operators from TW-5.1.20+ I think TiddlyTables has 
potential to be a simple spreadsheet!
-- Mohammad

On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 4:30:39 PM UTC+3:30, HansWobbe wrote:
>
> Mohammad: 
>
> It's great to see you again!
>
> Your initial TiddlyTable comments have already stimulated several ideas 
> for me, in spite of the fact that I was an early adapter and now use it 
> continuously in my daily work.  It's always interesting to see things from 
> the perspectives of others and to learn from their experiences.
>
> (a belated) Welcome back!
>
> Hans
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-01 Thread HansWobbe
Mohammad: 

It's great to see you again!

Your initial TiddlyTable comments have already stimulated several ideas for 
me, in spite of the fact that I was an early adapter and now use it 
continuously in my daily work.  It's always interesting to see things from 
the perspectives of others and to learn from their experiences.

(a belated) Welcome back!

Hans

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-01 Thread Mohammad
Alan,
 I will send you examples and some idea.

For now

 I think part of Tony proposal is now implemented in current TiddlyTables!
 The template mechanism TiddlyTables use can handle easily fields types as 
Tony asked.
 Right now, template displays for example tags or created with a special 
format! It can be used
 for other fields like email, phone number, url, and other type ...
 Thanks to the modular design and tiddler concept you have used in 
Tiddlytables.


-With the math operators in TW 5.1.20+ TiddlyTables can easily produces 
extra results like
-- average, min, max, sum, product, ... of all entries in a column so, like 
tbl-expand or tbl-delete template
   one can have a record like tbl-sum to add a row with sum of entries in a 
column.

- In my lite version, I have added an Edit/View button. On click all user 
fields can be edited inline this make a huge flexibility
  for example, I have 20 tiddlers each hold a student data. I create a 
Table using TiddlyTables and click the edit mode
  I can directly edit the table cell so, I can fields can be automatically 
added to tiddlers with new values

NOTE: no need to add fields in advance, TiddlyTables in edit mode lets add 
them automatically (when you edit a cell)

-- I use TiddlyTables for investigating several tiddlers in one place for 
text, fields, tags, etc,...

More description will come, I will also share my lite version soon 


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-30 Thread TonyM
Alan

Its not packaged yet. Would a short descriptive video be ok?

Yony

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-30 Thread Alan Aldrich
Tony,
Thank you for sharing your ideas. I'm afraid I am not able to fully 
understand. An example would be great. Can you provide a link to the 
landscape project you mentioned?
Respectfully,
Alan

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 6:57:21 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> I just thought I would drop a quick note for when you decide to progress 
> with this. I already have a method I developed in another solution that has 
> some features you may like. It would make sense to set some standards that 
> will help users as well as your design. I will do a short brain dump.
>
> This method was designed building a complex tiddlywiki, however each 
> innovation made it easier to add more sophisticated features. This could be 
> used in your tables, in lists, in forms and much more. It also overcomes 
> limitation on editing the current tiddler. I propose a joint effort with 
> others.
>
>- Provide a method for each tiddler to be viewed in read, update and 
>edit modes (A Global setting)
>   - Read only
>   - Update - point and click value changing
>   - Edit edit the field by multiple means
>   - Optional additional modes by tiddler/ field macro use
>- Allow this setting to be overridden with a local value in each 
>tiddler
>- When referencing a field (or tiddler column) use a macro such as 
>`<>` which responds to the mode at display time, using 
>currentTiddler.
>   - It does this by looking up a "field definition tiddler" eg 
>   $:/field/fieldname
>   - This tiddler could contain column titles and more for a given 
>   field to be listed in a table. We could load it with sort and other 
> tricks
>   - $:/field/fieldname provides a reference to a fieldtype eg 
>   $:/fieldtype/typename
>   - The field types are less in number to field definitions 
>   - Field types store transcludable code for each mode read update 
>   and edit. To display the field
>
> The advantages are
>
>- There is far less code this way as we abstract fields into reusable 
>field definitions and reusable field-types
>- Whenever the field macro is used you can change the mode and the 
>table in your case will suddenly become fully editable according to the 
>methods defined in the field/field-type 
>- The Field macro can include an override pushing any desired field 
>into a particular mode, so a table can be read only yet column two cell 
>content is editable.
>- These definitions can be shared in the community saving a lot of 
>time (See below for a list of field-types I already have)
>- I created an add on designer process so one could use `>` click to create field definition, then select or create the 
>field-type, making design very quick.
>
> Some field types I have already defined
>
> My Project was called landscape because it had lots of fields in the 
> landscape.
>
> $:/landscape/field-types/caption
> $:/landscape/field-types/email-address
> $:/landscape/field-types/false-or-true
> $:/landscape/field-types/false-true
> $:/landscape/field-types/field-type
> $:/landscape/field-types/filtered-list
> $:/landscape/field-types/filtered-list-linked
> $:/landscape/field-types/first-name
> $:/landscape/field-types/gender
> $:/landscape/field-types/hyperlink
> $:/landscape/field-types/list-columns
> $:/landscape/field-types/middle-names
> $:/landscape/field-types/object-type
> $:/landscape/field-types/optional-text
> $:/landscape/field-types/person
> $:/landscape/field-types/phone-number
> $:/landscape/field-types/select-with-field-values-filter
> $:/landscape/field-types/select-with-values-filter
> $:/landscape/field-types/short-text
> $:/landscape/field-types/surname
> $:/landscape/field-types/text
> $:/landscape/field-types/text-area
> $:/landscape/field-types/text-data-existing
> $:/landscape/field-types/text-existing
> $:/landscape/field-types/text-line
> $:/landscape/field-types/text-size-40
> $:/landscape/field-types/title
> $:/landscape/field-types/true-or-false
> $:/landscape/field-types/true-or-false-show
> $:/landscape/field-types/wikitext
> $:/landscape/field-types/year
> $:/landscape/field-types/yes-or-no
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 11:13:42 AM UTC+11, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammed,
>> Thank you for your kind words and support! I wish I could dedicate more 
>> time to TiddlyWiki and TiddlyTables. I agree with everything you said and I 
>> plan on expanding the functionality as well as the documentation. There are 
>> some features that could be optimized with the introduction of new TW 
>> filters and Widget enhancements and there are a few new features I would 
>> like to build in. For example, I would like to add a UI for swapping style 
>> and column templates and an easy way to toggle between read/edit mode. If 
>> you have any ideas for the next release please share. I am happy to hear 
>> others are using my plugin and I would love to 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-30 Thread TonyM
Alan,

I just thought I would drop a quick note for when you decide to progress 
with this. I already have a method I developed in another solution that has 
some features you may like. It would make sense to set some standards that 
will help users as well as your design. I will do a short brain dump.

This method was designed building a complex tiddlywiki, however each 
innovation made it easier to add more sophisticated features. This could be 
used in your tables, in lists, in forms and much more. It also overcomes 
limitation on editing the current tiddler. I propose a joint effort with 
others.

   - Provide a method for each tiddler to be viewed in read, update and 
   edit modes (A Global setting)
  - Read only
  - Update - point and click value changing
  - Edit edit the field by multiple means
  - Optional additional modes by tiddler/ field macro use
   - Allow this setting to be overridden with a local value in each tiddler
   - When referencing a field (or tiddler column) use a macro such as 
   `<>` which responds to the mode at display time, using 
   currentTiddler.
  - It does this by looking up a "field definition tiddler" eg 
  $:/field/fieldname
  - This tiddler could contain column titles and more for a given field 
  to be listed in a table. We could load it with sort and other tricks
  - $:/field/fieldname provides a reference to a fieldtype eg 
  $:/fieldtype/typename
  - The field types are less in number to field definitions 
  - Field types store transcludable code for each mode read update and 
  edit. To display the field
   
The advantages are

   - There is far less code this way as we abstract fields into reusable 
   field definitions and reusable field-types
   - Whenever the field macro is used you can change the mode and the table 
   in your case will suddenly become fully editable according to the methods 
   defined in the field/field-type 
   - The Field macro can include an override pushing any desired field into 
   a particular mode, so a table can be read only yet column two cell content 
   is editable.
   - These definitions can be shared in the community saving a lot of time 
   (See below for a list of field-types I already have)
   - I created an add on designer process so one could use `<>` click to create field definition, then select or create the 
   field-type, making design very quick.

Some field types I have already defined

My Project was called landscape because it had lots of fields in the 
landscape.

$:/landscape/field-types/caption
$:/landscape/field-types/email-address
$:/landscape/field-types/false-or-true
$:/landscape/field-types/false-true
$:/landscape/field-types/field-type
$:/landscape/field-types/filtered-list
$:/landscape/field-types/filtered-list-linked
$:/landscape/field-types/first-name
$:/landscape/field-types/gender
$:/landscape/field-types/hyperlink
$:/landscape/field-types/list-columns
$:/landscape/field-types/middle-names
$:/landscape/field-types/object-type
$:/landscape/field-types/optional-text
$:/landscape/field-types/person
$:/landscape/field-types/phone-number
$:/landscape/field-types/select-with-field-values-filter
$:/landscape/field-types/select-with-values-filter
$:/landscape/field-types/short-text
$:/landscape/field-types/surname
$:/landscape/field-types/text
$:/landscape/field-types/text-area
$:/landscape/field-types/text-data-existing
$:/landscape/field-types/text-existing
$:/landscape/field-types/text-line
$:/landscape/field-types/text-size-40
$:/landscape/field-types/title
$:/landscape/field-types/true-or-false
$:/landscape/field-types/true-or-false-show
$:/landscape/field-types/wikitext
$:/landscape/field-types/year
$:/landscape/field-types/yes-or-no


Regards
Tony

On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 11:13:42 AM UTC+11, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammed,
> Thank you for your kind words and support! I wish I could dedicate more 
> time to TiddlyWiki and TiddlyTables. I agree with everything you said and I 
> plan on expanding the functionality as well as the documentation. There are 
> some features that could be optimized with the introduction of new TW 
> filters and Widget enhancements and there are a few new features I would 
> like to build in. For example, I would like to add a UI for swapping style 
> and column templates and an easy way to toggle between read/edit mode. If 
> you have any ideas for the next release please share. I am happy to hear 
> others are using my plugin and I would love to see some examples. It might 
> give me some ideas for enhancements if I saw how others are using it. Time 
> is the limiting factor for me right now, but I hope that will change in the 
> coming months. Thanks again for your great feedback. 
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
> On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 2:40:00 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> I was studying the TiddlyTables in last few days. This is a really great 
>> piece of work.
>>
>> It uses the tiddler 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-30 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hi Mohammed,
Thank you for your kind words and support! I wish I could dedicate more 
time to TiddlyWiki and TiddlyTables. I agree with everything you said and I 
plan on expanding the functionality as well as the documentation. There are 
some features that could be optimized with the introduction of new TW 
filters and Widget enhancements and there are a few new features I would 
like to build in. For example, I would like to add a UI for swapping style 
and column templates and an easy way to toggle between read/edit mode. If 
you have any ideas for the next release please share. I am happy to hear 
others are using my plugin and I would love to see some examples. It might 
give me some ideas for enhancements if I saw how others are using it. Time 
is the limiting factor for me right now, but I hope that will change in the 
coming months. Thanks again for your great feedback. 
Cheers,
Alan

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 2:40:00 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> I was studying the TiddlyTables in last few days. This is a really great 
> piece of work.
>
> It uses the tiddler philosophy and one can learn Tiddlywiki scripting 
> (wikitext language) by studying TiddlyTables.
>
> The way TiddlyTables uses to construct rows and columns and format them 
> using template is amazing.
> The modular approach and the ease of extending it  is awesome. It uses 
> transclusion in many ways and produce a very complex dynamic table.
>
> Also, the plugin Task Manager which has been developed using TiddlyTables 
> shows how powerful it is.
>
> I highly recommend to add more documentation to it and let TiddlyTable 
> acts as la earning resource. Also ask Jeremy to add it to tiddlywiki.com 
> resources (https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Community).
>
> TiddlyTables can be also used for inspection and inline viewing and 
> editing bulk of tiddlers. 
>
> I used your approach and some of your templates to create macros as a very 
> lite version in Shiraz 2.0.0 plugin called dynamic tables hopefully will be 
> published in a very near future. 
>
> Note: I would recommend to add your answers to questions raised in forum 
> as documentation to tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com 
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:52:20 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> Mohammed,
>> Absolutely! I will assume you wish to use the class element for styling 
>> purposes and so I will focus on that. There are many options for styling a 
>> table. After you create a new table, click the Edit button and display the 
>> tables options, navigate to the first option under "Style" called "Template 
>> (Stylesheet)". this page displays a dropdown with choices that correspond 
>> to the stylesheets included in the plugin. The dropdown's value is stored 
>> in the field "tbl-class" and you can manually edit this field with any 
>> value you wish. an empty value will result in the table inheriting 
>> TiddlyWiki's table styling. The easiest way to create a new stylesheet is 
>> to clone $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/style/standard and give it a new class 
>> name (tbl-class-name). You will then see your new stylesheet as an option 
>> on the dropdown. 
>>
>> Keep this in mind. the class attribute defined in tbl-class is an 
>> attribute on a div element that acts as a container for the table element. 
>> This can be seen in: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/macro.
>>
>> Another option is to override parts of the selected stylesheet. In the 
>> Edit menu navigate to "Override (Inline Styles)". Here you can enter css 
>> properties for the table element or the div container that will take 
>> priority over the stylesheet. 
>>
>> Lastly, there are two more options Under "Style" in the Edit menu. 
>> "Column Groups" and "Advanced Styles". 
>>
>>- Column groups are useful for applying css properties to individual 
>>columns. Here is some more info on that: 
>>https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/colgroup
>>- Advanced Styles documents a method for applying a style to an 
>>individual row in a table.
>>
>> Thank you for your questions and feedback Mohammad. I hope this helps,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:16:05 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Arlen! TiddlyTables is a great contribution!
>>>
>>> One question: Is it possible to simply add classes or override the 
>>> default classes for Tables?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:22:35 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 All,
 Thank you for your feedback. I couldn't agree more that the 
 documentation for TiddlyTables needs improvement. I will try my best to do 
 so in future releases. I have tried to integrate some of the documentation 
 into the Edit menu. Advanced Styles, Advanced Features, More Columns and 
 Getting Started all contain helpful information, but more is on the way. 
 In 
 the meantime, I started writing down 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-30 Thread Mohammad
Hi Alan,

I was studying the TiddlyTables in last few days. This is a really great 
piece of work.

It uses the tiddler philosophy and one can learn Tiddlywiki scripting 
(wikitext language) by studying TiddlyTables.

The way TiddlyTables uses to construct rows and columns and format them 
using template is amazing.
The modular approach and the ease of extending it  is awesome. It uses 
transclusion in many ways and produce a very complex dynamic table.

Also, the plugin Task Manager which has been developed using TiddlyTables 
shows how powerful it is.

I highly recommend to add more documentation to it and let TiddlyTable acts 
as la earning resource. Also ask Jeremy to add it to tiddlywiki.com 
resources (https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Community).

TiddlyTables can be also used for inspection and inline viewing and editing 
bulk of tiddlers. 

I used your approach and some of your templates to create macros as a very 
lite version in Shiraz 2.0.0 plugin called dynamic tables hopefully will be 
published in a very near future. 

Note: I would recommend to add your answers to questions raised in forum as 
documentation to tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com 

Best wishes
Mohammad






On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:52:20 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich 
wrote:
>
> Mohammed,
> Absolutely! I will assume you wish to use the class element for styling 
> purposes and so I will focus on that. There are many options for styling a 
> table. After you create a new table, click the Edit button and display the 
> tables options, navigate to the first option under "Style" called "Template 
> (Stylesheet)". this page displays a dropdown with choices that correspond 
> to the stylesheets included in the plugin. The dropdown's value is stored 
> in the field "tbl-class" and you can manually edit this field with any 
> value you wish. an empty value will result in the table inheriting 
> TiddlyWiki's table styling. The easiest way to create a new stylesheet is 
> to clone $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/style/standard and give it a new class 
> name (tbl-class-name). You will then see your new stylesheet as an option 
> on the dropdown. 
>
> Keep this in mind. the class attribute defined in tbl-class is an 
> attribute on a div element that acts as a container for the table element. 
> This can be seen in: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/macro.
>
> Another option is to override parts of the selected stylesheet. In the 
> Edit menu navigate to "Override (Inline Styles)". Here you can enter css 
> properties for the table element or the div container that will take 
> priority over the stylesheet. 
>
> Lastly, there are two more options Under "Style" in the Edit menu. "Column 
> Groups" and "Advanced Styles". 
>
>- Column groups are useful for applying css properties to individual 
>columns. Here is some more info on that: 
>https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/colgroup
>- Advanced Styles documents a method for applying a style to an 
>individual row in a table.
>
> Thank you for your questions and feedback Mohammad. I hope this helps,
> Alan
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:16:05 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Arlen! TiddlyTables is a great contribution!
>>
>> One question: Is it possible to simply add classes or override the 
>> default classes for Tables?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:22:35 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>> Thank you for your feedback. I couldn't agree more that the 
>>> documentation for TiddlyTables needs improvement. I will try my best to do 
>>> so in future releases. I have tried to integrate some of the documentation 
>>> into the Edit menu. Advanced Styles, Advanced Features, More Columns and 
>>> Getting Started all contain helpful information, but more is on the way. In 
>>> the meantime, I started writing down a few paragraphs to cover a couple of 
>>> the more advanced topics. I highly recommend reading through it and walking 
>>> through the example I give. It can be found here: 
>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Digging%20deeper%20into%20TiddlyTables
>>>
>>> Another resource is the task manager example plugin (shown in the 
>>> sidebar) which illustrates most of TiddlyTable's use cases. It consists of 
>>> three separate tables, one nested inside the other:
>>>
>>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/realm-table
>>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/project-table
>>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/task-table
>>>
>>> To enable the Edit menu for these tables, change the value of the field 
>>> "tbl-show-edit" to "true" for each. This will enable the "Edit" button, 
>>> making it easier to see how these tables were built and how they work 
>>> together.
>>>
>>> Let me know if this information was helpful and/or if there are any 
>>> other topics I should focus on in lieu of formal documentation. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-5, Alan 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-30 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hi Chuck,
5.1.16. is the required minimum version of TW. I'm not sure what all is 
necessary to have it added to the plugin library but I am for it. 
Cheers,
Alan


On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 8:28:50 AM UTC-6, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Very nice, thank you Alan! I have some questions.
>
> What's the minimum version of TW5 that is required to use this? 
> Can this be added to the main wiki at http://tiddlywiki.com as a tool or 
> addon? 
> I was writing in markdown for my tiddlers but this might be the reason I 
> convert to writing in TW.
>
> Very odd, I'm not seeing my questions turned into bullets.
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-30 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hi Victor,
Yes, with some prep work and a few caveats: 1) the "title" column cannot be 
edited. A row cannot exist with a blank title because a tiddler cannot have 
a blank title. Remember a row is a tiddler and a column is a field. So 
adding rows requires editing "tbl-add-records" or using the method shown in 
example #3 at http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/. 2) Columns are fields so 
the title of the column cannot contain spaces. adding a column title with a 
space requires a unique header template for that field. I will not cover 
that here. 3) Column templates are global. For example, making the tags 
column editable in one table makes it editable in all tables.

Lets say you want a table with the following columns: title, caption, tags, 
list, type and new-field. all of which editable except title.

   1. Create the table. Add these columns and modify the filter or add 
   manual records.
   2. Add the tags: "caption" "tags" "list" "type" and "new-field" to 
   $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/edit 
   

   .
   3. Remove the tag "tags" from 
   $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags 
   
.
 
   This is required because a column must be assigned to one template only. 
   title, tags, created and modified are the only standard fields tagged to 
   special templates.
   4. (Optional) Create a button that adds/removes these tags automatically 
   so you can easily toggle between read/edit mode.

For your second question, you can create a new custom column templates for 
tags by first removing the tag "tags" from 
$:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags 

 as 
we did above and tagging a new tiddler with "tags" and 
"$:/tags/table/BodyTemplate". There are actually three types of column 
templates: header, body and footer. I have documented this a bit more under 
the "More Columns" option in the edit menu. Also see "Advanced Features" in 
the edit menu for some useful parameters when making a custom template. 

I hope this helps,
Alan


On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 7:21:58 AM UTC-6, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> i'm wondering if it's possible to have every column "in-line editable"? 
> Additionally I wanted to know how to use a different ViewTemplate 
> especially for the tags column? Thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers, 
> Victor
>
> On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 9:01:41 PM UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>
>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
>> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
>> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
>> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
>> installation instructions and examples:
>>
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
>> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
>> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
>> any feedback. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan Aldrich
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-27 Thread Chuck R.
Very nice, thank you Alan! I have some questions.

What's the minimum version of TW5 that is required to use this? 
Can this be added to the main wiki at http://tiddlywiki.com as a tool or 
addon? 
I was writing in markdown for my tiddlers but this might be the reason I 
convert to writing in TW.

Very odd, I'm not seeing my questions turned into bullets.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-27 Thread Victor Dorneanu
Hi Alan,

i'm wondering if it's possible to have every column "in-line editable"? 
Additionally I wanted to know how to use a different ViewTemplate 
especially for the tags column? Thanks in advance.

Cheers, 
Victor

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 9:01:41 PM UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-12 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hans,
The selected stylesheet (tbl-class) determines how a link is displayed. The 
default stylesheet is defined 
in: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/style/standard  The rest of the built-in 
stylesheets inherit their CSS from this tiddler. 

I designed the default stylesheet to override default link formatting in 
order to make the table look more consistent by making links "blend in" 
better with plain text. There are several CSS properties that contribute to 
this. For example, all blocks under comment  contain the 
properties color, text-decoration and font-weight. These properties change 
the color of links, remove the underline (text-decoration) and force the 
font weight (bold or normal depending on if it is a header, footer or body 
element). 

All that said, you can certainly change the way links are displayed. You 
can either edit the default stylesheet or start fresh with a blank one. 

By the way, CamelCase links render the same as other links in TW, an  
element with "tc-tiddlylink" class. Just in case you are asking how to make 
CamelCase links render differently than other links i.e. ExampleLink vs. 
[[example link]], I suspect that is not possible without changes to the 
core. 

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Alan



On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 8:09:02 AM UTC-6, HansWobbe wrote:
>
> Alan:
>
> Just to let you know, TiddlyTables has become an integral part of my 
> TiddlyWiki workFlow, that I have bundled with a select few other plugins to 
> create the functionality and flexibility I need as both a User and a 
> Hacker.  
>
> After a month of intense use during which I adapted my data to its native 
> capabilities, I have only one minor question.
>
>
>1. Can you suggest an effective way to make CamelCase links that 
>appear in rendered views of the table distinctly links?  They are 
> effective 
>inks and can be used as such, but I wold like to add a bit of css or 
> markup 
>to make them more evident.
>
>
> Thank you very much for sharing this great plugin.
>
> Best regards,
> Hans
>
>
> On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 3:56:51 PM UTC-4, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Hans,
>> I am very happy to hear you are finding my plugin useful. I am also 
>> pleased to hear you are getting good performance with a large number of 
>> tiddlers.
>> Thank you for sharing your feedback,
>> Alan
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-11-11 Thread HansWobbe
Alan:

Just to let you know, TiddlyTables has become an integral part of my 
TiddlyWiki workFlow, that I have bundled with a select few other plugins to 
create the functionality and flexibility I need as both a User and a 
Hacker.  

After a month of intense use during which I adapted my data to its native 
capabilities, I have only one minor question.


   1. Can you suggest an effective way to make CamelCase links that appear 
   in rendered views of the table distinctly links?  They are effective inks 
   and can be used as such, but I wold like to add a bit of css or markup to 
   make them more evident.


Thank you very much for sharing this great plugin.

Best regards,
Hans


On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 3:56:51 PM UTC-4, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Hans,
> I am very happy to hear you are finding my plugin useful. I am also 
> pleased to hear you are getting good performance with a large number of 
> tiddlers.
> Thank you for sharing your feedback,
> Alan
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-10-21 Thread Alan Aldrich
Hans,
I am very happy to hear you are finding my plugin useful. I am also pleased 
to hear you are getting good performance with a large number of tiddlers.
Thank you for sharing your feedback,
Alan


On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 3:08:17 PM UTC-5, HansWobbe wrote:
>
> Alan:
>
> I've been cautiously testing your TiddlyTables creation for some time 
> now.  First and foremost, I think its a wondrous tool!  Thank you very much 
> for sharing this creation.
>
> The capabilities you have built into it are literally changing my entire 
> view of how to manage a large and growing number of tiddlers  
>
> In a nut shell, I believe it will be possible to manage the 50,000 plus 
> tiddlers that the recent Indexing enhancement facilitates, via a single 
> table that uses just one field containing an extremely large alphabet of 
> symbols in various combinations and permutations.
>
> My preliminary tests have gone well enough that I have already decided to 
> start the process of consolidating all of the tiddlers I've accumulated 
> during the last decade, so that they can be updated and incorporated into 
> what I see as a high-density information repository.
>
> I truly appreciate what you have accomplished and your generosity in 
> sharing it.
>
> Best regards,
> Hans
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-10-20 Thread HansWobbe
Alan:

I've been cautiously testing your TiddlyTables creation for some time now.  
First and foremost, I think its a wondrous tool!  Thank you very much for 
sharing this creation.

The capabilities you have built into it are literally changing my entire 
view of how to manage a large and growing number of tiddlers  

In a nut shell, I believe it will be possible to manage the 50,000 plus 
tiddlers that the recent Indexing enhancement facilitates, via a single 
table that uses just one field containing an extremely large alphabet of 
symbols in various combinations and permutations.

My preliminary tests have gone well enough that I have already decided to 
start the process of consolidating all of the tiddlers I've accumulated 
during the last decade, so that they can be updated and incorporated into 
what I see as a high-density information repository.

I truly appreciate what you have accomplished and your generosity in 
sharing it.

Best regards,
Hans


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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-20 Thread Victor Dorneanu
Wow! I've just started to realize the vast opportunities this tool can 
offer. Many many thanks for sharing this with us and also for your efforts!

KR,
Victor 

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 9:01:41 PM UTC+2, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-18 Thread Alan Aldrich
Ah, I see what you are asking Tony and yes this is possible too. Let me 
walk you through it. 

   1. Copy an existing body template or create a new one. For this example 
   we will start from scratch.
  1. Create a new tiddler 
  called $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/alt-title (it can be 
titled 
  anything you want)
  2. Tag this tiddler with:
 1.  $:/tags/table/BodyTemplate
 2. alt-title
  3. use the following for the text field:
 1. 
 <$view tiddler=<> field="title"/>
 
 2. you can change this to whatever fits your needs but the 
 important part is it is rendering the "title" of the "currentRecord"
  4. Add "alt-title" to your table's columns (tbl-columns)
  5. Now you should have a table with both "title" and "alt-title" as 
  columns, where "title" is formatted as a link and "alt-title" is plain 
text.
   2. Now, let's say you don't want the header to say "alt-title" you want 
   it to just say "title".
   3. Let's also assume you want the header to remain sortable. In that 
   case we will clone $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/header/default
  1. Clone this template and lets give it the name: 
  $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/header/alt-title (again, any name 
will 
  do)
  2. Add the tag "alt-title"
   4. The default (sortable) header is one of the more complex templates. 
   To change the displayed header title you will need to replace 
   <>
   with 
   title
   in three places:
  1. Line 4
  2. Line 17
  3. Line 29
   5. Now you should have two columns in your table with the same header 
   text, "title", both with different formats. You can then remove the 
   original title column, leaving your table with its own unique formatting of 
   the title column.

I hope this helps,
Alan



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 3:07:01 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> I saw what you say here 
>
> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
>> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>
>
> But what If I only want to change the template for title in one table, not 
> all ?
>
> Are you open to some turbo charge improvement ideas? Or waiting to 
> stabilize the current solution?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>  
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 1:49:01 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Tony, 
>> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
>> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
>> points:
>>
>>
>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>
>> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
>> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
>> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
>> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
>> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
>> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
>> <> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
>> or not.
>>
>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>>a specific table?
>>
>> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
>> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>>
>>
>>I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar 
>> but you need to set the tiddler
>>eg
>><$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
>><>
>>
>>
>> Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its parameters 
>> from the fields that are created when the table is created. Essentially, a 
>> table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We can call them 
>> "table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new tiddler is 
>> created and it contains the default table. If you edit this tiddler you 
>> will see its text is just <> and it has 29 fields that serve as its 
>> parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler widget like you 
>> show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables to store these 29 
>> parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render in TiddlerA. The 
>> same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in the case of using 
>> "$:/tags/SideBar" 
>> the table MUST be transcluded or it will not find the parameters its 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-18 Thread TonyM
Alan,

I saw what you say here 

You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.


But what If I only want to change the template for title in one table, not 
all ?

Are you open to some turbo charge improvement ideas? Or waiting to 
stabilize the current solution?

Thanks in advance
Tony
 

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 1:49:01 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Tony, 
> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
> points:
>
>
>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>
> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
> <> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
> or not.
>
>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>a specific table?
>
> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>
>
>I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar 
> but you need to set the tiddler
>eg
><$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
><>
>
>
> Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its parameters 
> from the fields that are created when the table is created. Essentially, a 
> table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We can call them 
> "table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new tiddler is 
> created and it contains the default table. If you edit this tiddler you 
> will see its text is just <> and it has 29 fields that serve as its 
> parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler widget like you 
> show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables to store these 29 
> parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render in TiddlerA. The 
> same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in the case of using 
> "$:/tags/SideBar" 
> the table MUST be transcluded or it will not find the parameters its 
> looking for. This is a limitation of the "non-standard" implementation of 
> macros I am using, and I mention it in Known Issues/Limitations. My next 
> post will have a link in it that describes this further.
>
> These are great questions, keep them coming!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:44:19 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> For fun whilst learning more on TiddlyTables
>>
>>
>>- SImply put it is a new way of looking at any filter
>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>- Are tables totally self contained? Looks like it, The advantage is 
>>TiddlyTables plus a bunch of tables to access various system information 
>>would be very helpful
>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>>a specific table?
>>
>> I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar but 
>> you need to set the tiddler
>> eg
>> <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> I will keep exploring this.
>>
>> I would like to see a one button create table from filter.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:53:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> Thanks, I am just exploring the possibilities of tiddlytables. Since the 
>>> minimum one needs is a filter it is a great way to simply list tiddlers of 
>>> any type. But then a custom table with custom fields can expose other 
>>> details.
>>>
>>>
>>> I also appreciate the drop down on the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) - 
>>> filter syntax
>>> Quite a few people have being asking for help for writing filters and 
>>> you have already done it.
>>>
>>> It would be great in an editor toolbar button as well.
>>>
>>> A simple example is
>>> [all[shadows]prefix[$:/info]!prefix[$:/info/browser]] [[$:/info/browser/
>>> name]]
>>>
>>> and show the text field.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:58:04 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich 

Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-18 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Alan
Many thanks for your complete explanations.

Best wishes
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-18 Thread Alan Aldrich
Mohammed,
Absolutely! I will assume you wish to use the class element for styling 
purposes and so I will focus on that. There are many options for styling a 
table. After you create a new table, click the Edit button and display the 
tables options, navigate to the first option under "Style" called "Template 
(Stylesheet)". this page displays a dropdown with choices that correspond 
to the stylesheets included in the plugin. The dropdown's value is stored 
in the field "tbl-class" and you can manually edit this field with any 
value you wish. an empty value will result in the table inheriting 
TiddlyWiki's table styling. The easiest way to create a new stylesheet is 
to clone $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/style/standard and give it a new class 
name (tbl-class-name). You will then see your new stylesheet as an option 
on the dropdown. 

Keep this in mind. the class attribute defined in tbl-class is an attribute 
on a div element that acts as a container for the table element. This can 
be seen in: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/macro.

Another option is to override parts of the selected stylesheet. In the Edit 
menu navigate to "Override (Inline Styles)". Here you can enter css 
properties for the table element or the div container that will take 
priority over the stylesheet. 

Lastly, there are two more options Under "Style" in the Edit menu. "Column 
Groups" and "Advanced Styles". 

   - Column groups are useful for applying css properties to individual 
   columns. Here is some more info on 
   that: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/colgroup
   - Advanced Styles documents a method for applying a style to an 
   individual row in a table.

Thank you for your questions and feedback Mohammad. I hope this helps,
Alan


On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:16:05 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Arlen! TiddlyTables is a great contribution!
>
> One question: Is it possible to simply add classes or override the default 
> classes for Tables?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:22:35 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>> Thank you for your feedback. I couldn't agree more that the documentation 
>> for TiddlyTables needs improvement. I will try my best to do so in future 
>> releases. I have tried to integrate some of the documentation into the Edit 
>> menu. Advanced Styles, Advanced Features, More Columns and Getting Started 
>> all contain helpful information, but more is on the way. In the meantime, I 
>> started writing down a few paragraphs to cover a couple of the more 
>> advanced topics. I highly recommend reading through it and walking through 
>> the example I give. It can be found here: 
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Digging%20deeper%20into%20TiddlyTables
>>
>> Another resource is the task manager example plugin (shown in the 
>> sidebar) which illustrates most of TiddlyTable's use cases. It consists of 
>> three separate tables, one nested inside the other:
>>
>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/realm-table
>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/project-table
>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/task-table
>>
>> To enable the Edit menu for these tables, change the value of the field 
>> "tbl-show-edit" to "true" for each. This will enable the "Edit" button, 
>> making it easier to see how these tables were built and how they work 
>> together.
>>
>> Let me know if this information was helpful and/or if there are any other 
>> topics I should focus on in lieu of formal documentation. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony, 
>>> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
>>> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
>>> points:
>>>
>>>
>>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>>
>>> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
>>> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
>>> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
>>> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
>>> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
>>> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
>>> <> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
>>> or not.
>>>
>>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column 
>>>for a specific table?
>>>
>>> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
>>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
>>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
>>> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
>>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>>>
>>>
>>>I note you can place any 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-17 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Arlen! TiddlyTables is a great contribution!

One question: Is it possible to simply add classes or override the default 
classes for Tables?

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:22:35 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> All,
> Thank you for your feedback. I couldn't agree more that the documentation 
> for TiddlyTables needs improvement. I will try my best to do so in future 
> releases. I have tried to integrate some of the documentation into the Edit 
> menu. Advanced Styles, Advanced Features, More Columns and Getting Started 
> all contain helpful information, but more is on the way. In the meantime, I 
> started writing down a few paragraphs to cover a couple of the more 
> advanced topics. I highly recommend reading through it and walking through 
> the example I give. It can be found here: 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Digging%20deeper%20into%20TiddlyTables
>
> Another resource is the task manager example plugin (shown in the sidebar) 
> which illustrates most of TiddlyTable's use cases. It consists of three 
> separate tables, one nested inside the other:
>
> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/realm-table
> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/project-table
> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/task-table
>
> To enable the Edit menu for these tables, change the value of the field 
> "tbl-show-edit" to "true" for each. This will enable the "Edit" button, 
> making it easier to see how these tables were built and how they work 
> together.
>
> Let me know if this information was helpful and/or if there are any other 
> topics I should focus on in lieu of formal documentation. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Tony, 
>> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
>> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
>> points:
>>
>>
>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>
>> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
>> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
>> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
>> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
>> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
>> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
>> <> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
>> or not.
>>
>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>>a specific table?
>>
>> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
>> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>>
>>
>>I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar 
>> but you need to set the tiddler
>>eg
>><$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
>><>
>>
>>
>> Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its parameters 
>> from the fields that are created when the table is created. Essentially, a 
>> table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We can call them 
>> "table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new tiddler is 
>> created and it contains the default table. If you edit this tiddler you 
>> will see its text is just <> and it has 29 fields that serve as its 
>> parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler widget like you 
>> show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables to store these 29 
>> parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render in TiddlerA. The 
>> same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in the case of using 
>> "$:/tags/SideBar" 
>> the table MUST be transcluded or it will not find the parameters its 
>> looking for. This is a limitation of the "non-standard" implementation of 
>> macros I am using, and I mention it in Known Issues/Limitations. My next 
>> post will have a link in it that describes this further.
>>
>> These are great questions, keep them coming!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:44:19 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> For fun whilst learning more on TiddlyTables
>>>
>>>
>>>- SImply put it is a new way of looking at any filter
>>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>>- Are tables totally self contained? Looks like it, The advantage is 
>>>TiddlyTables plus a bunch of tables to access various system information 
>>>would be very helpful
>>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column 
>>>for a specific table?
>>>
>>> I 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-17 Thread Alan Aldrich
All,
Thank you for your feedback. I couldn't agree more that the documentation 
for TiddlyTables needs improvement. I will try my best to do so in future 
releases. I have tried to integrate some of the documentation into the Edit 
menu. Advanced Styles, Advanced Features, More Columns and Getting Started 
all contain helpful information, but more is on the way. In the meantime, I 
started writing down a few paragraphs to cover a couple of the more 
advanced topics. I highly recommend reading through it and walking through 
the example I give. It can be found here: 
http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Digging%20deeper%20into%20TiddlyTables

Another resource is the task manager example plugin (shown in the sidebar) 
which illustrates most of TiddlyTable's use cases. It consists of three 
separate tables, one nested inside the other:

$:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/realm-table
$:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/project-table
$:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/task-table

To enable the Edit menu for these tables, change the value of the field 
"tbl-show-edit" to "true" for each. This will enable the "Edit" button, 
making it easier to see how these tables were built and how they work 
together.

Let me know if this information was helpful and/or if there are any other 
topics I should focus on in lieu of formal documentation. 

Thanks,
Alan


On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Tony, 
> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
> points:
>
>
>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>
> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
> <> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
> or not.
>
>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>a specific table?
>
> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>
>
>I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar 
> but you need to set the tiddler
>eg
><$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
><>
>
>
> Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its parameters 
> from the fields that are created when the table is created. Essentially, a 
> table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We can call them 
> "table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new tiddler is 
> created and it contains the default table. If you edit this tiddler you 
> will see its text is just <> and it has 29 fields that serve as its 
> parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler widget like you 
> show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables to store these 29 
> parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render in TiddlerA. The 
> same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in the case of using 
> "$:/tags/SideBar" 
> the table MUST be transcluded or it will not find the parameters its 
> looking for. This is a limitation of the "non-standard" implementation of 
> macros I am using, and I mention it in Known Issues/Limitations. My next 
> post will have a link in it that describes this further.
>
> These are great questions, keep them coming!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:44:19 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> For fun whilst learning more on TiddlyTables
>>
>>
>>- SImply put it is a new way of looking at any filter
>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>- Are tables totally self contained? Looks like it, The advantage is 
>>TiddlyTables plus a bunch of tables to access various system information 
>>would be very helpful
>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>>a specific table?
>>
>> I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar but 
>> you need to set the tiddler
>> eg
>> <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> I will keep exploring this.
>>
>> I would like to see a one button create table from filter.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:53:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> Thanks, I 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-17 Thread Alan Aldrich
Tony, 
I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions and 
will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet points:


   - A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not expect 
   that to work give the special meaning of < and >

I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also pleasantly 
surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its parameter 
and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you can search 
on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course has nothing 
to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The filter you 
mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for <> which is 
a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table or not.

   - I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for a 
   specific table?
   
You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
but the template that controls the body of the title column 
is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.


   I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar 
but you need to set the tiddler
   eg
   <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
   <>
   

Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its parameters 
from the fields that are created when the table is created. Essentially, a 
table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We can call them 
"table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new tiddler is 
created and it contains the default table. If you edit this tiddler you 
will see its text is just <> and it has 29 fields that serve as its 
parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler widget like you 
show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables to store these 29 
parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render in TiddlerA. The 
same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in the case of using 
"$:/tags/SideBar" 
the table MUST be transcluded or it will not find the parameters its 
looking for. This is a limitation of the "non-standard" implementation of 
macros I am using, and I mention it in Known Issues/Limitations. My next 
post will have a link in it that describes this further.

These are great questions, keep them coming!



On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:44:19 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> For fun whilst learning more on TiddlyTables
>
>
>- SImply put it is a new way of looking at any filter
>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>- Are tables totally self contained? Looks like it, The advantage is 
>TiddlyTables plus a bunch of tables to access various system information 
>would be very helpful
>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>a specific table?
>
> I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar but 
> you need to set the tiddler
> eg
> <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
> <>
> 
>
> I will keep exploring this.
>
> I would like to see a one button create table from filter.
>
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:53:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Alan,
>>
>> Thanks, I am just exploring the possibilities of tiddlytables. Since the 
>> minimum one needs is a filter it is a great way to simply list tiddlers of 
>> any type. But then a custom table with custom fields can expose other 
>> details.
>>
>>
>> I also appreciate the drop down on the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) - 
>> filter syntax
>> Quite a few people have being asking for help for writing filters and you 
>> have already done it.
>>
>> It would be great in an editor toolbar button as well.
>>
>> A simple example is
>> [all[shadows]prefix[$:/info]!prefix[$:/info/browser]] [[$:/info/browser/
>> name]]
>>
>> and show the text field.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:58:04 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> I have uploaded a new version of TiddlyTables that includes a 
>>> confirmation when deleting. Thank you for your excellent comments and 
>>> feedback. 
>>>
>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:

 Hey Alan,

 I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:

 https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget

 According to the docs:

 There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
> tm-delete-tiddler 
> :
>
>- *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*
>
>
>- No automatic updating of the story list
>
>
>- No 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-17 Thread TonyM
For fun whilst learning more on TiddlyTables


   - SImply put it is a new way of looking at any filter
   - A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not expect 
   that to work give the special meaning of < and >
   - Are tables totally self contained? Looks like it, The advantage is 
   TiddlyTables plus a bunch of tables to access various system information 
   would be very helpful
   - I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for a 
   specific table?

I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar but you 
need to set the tiddler
eg
<$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
<>


I will keep exploring this.

I would like to see a one button create table from filter.

Tony

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:53:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> Thanks, I am just exploring the possibilities of tiddlytables. Since the 
> minimum one needs is a filter it is a great way to simply list tiddlers of 
> any type. But then a custom table with custom fields can expose other 
> details.
>
>
> I also appreciate the drop down on the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) - 
> filter syntax
> Quite a few people have being asking for help for writing filters and you 
> have already done it.
>
> It would be great in an editor toolbar button as well.
>
> A simple example is
> [all[shadows]prefix[$:/info]!prefix[$:/info/browser]] [[$:/info/browser/
> name]]
>
> and show the text field.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:58:04 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> I have uploaded a new version of TiddlyTables that includes a 
>> confirmation when deleting. Thank you for your excellent comments and 
>> feedback. 
>>
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Alan,
>>>
>>> I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget
>>>
>>> According to the docs:
>>>
>>> There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
 tm-delete-tiddler 
 :

- *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*


- No automatic updating of the story list


- No special handling of draft tiddlers

 I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would 
>>> handle the confirmation.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Diego
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to get 
 that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way to 
 accomplish this?
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-17 Thread Mohammad
One more point!

*No JS and all WikiText*

You did amazing job!


If you had time in future that would be great to create a similar API 
documentation
I mean how code works and what are different macros, ...
TiddlyTables has a lot to be learnt!

--Mohammad


On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 9:28:04 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> I have uploaded a new version of TiddlyTables that includes a confirmation 
> when deleting. Thank you for your excellent comments and feedback. 
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alan,
>>
>> I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget
>>
>> According to the docs:
>>
>> There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
>>> tm-delete-tiddler 
>>> :
>>>
>>>- *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*
>>>
>>>
>>>- No automatic updating of the story list
>>>
>>>
>>>- No special handling of draft tiddlers
>>>
>>> I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would handle 
>> the confirmation.
>>
>> Best,
>> Diego
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to get 
>>> that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way to 
>>> accomplish this?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-17 Thread Mohammad
Love it!

I highly recommend for much clear documentation!
Start with simple example and then complex ones step by step

Not all newbies can start 
from http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Introducing%20TiddlyTables

Cheers
Mohammad


On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 9:28:04 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> I have uploaded a new version of TiddlyTables that includes a confirmation 
> when deleting. Thank you for your excellent comments and feedback. 
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alan,
>>
>> I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget
>>
>> According to the docs:
>>
>> There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
>>> tm-delete-tiddler 
>>> :
>>>
>>>- *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*
>>>
>>>
>>>- No automatic updating of the story list
>>>
>>>
>>>- No special handling of draft tiddlers
>>>
>>> I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would handle 
>> the confirmation.
>>
>> Best,
>> Diego
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to get 
>>> that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way to 
>>> accomplish this?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-16 Thread TonyM
Alan,

Thanks, I am just exploring the possibilities of tiddlytables. Since the 
minimum one needs is a filter it is a great way to simply list tiddlers of 
any type. But then a custom table with custom fields can expose other 
details.


I also appreciate the drop down on the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) - 
filter syntax
Quite a few people have being asking for help for writing filters and you 
have already done it.

It would be great in an editor toolbar button as well.

A simple example is
[all[shadows]prefix[$:/info]!prefix[$:/info/browser]] [[$:/info/browser/name
]]

and show the text field.

Regards
Tony






On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:58:04 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> I have uploaded a new version of TiddlyTables that includes a confirmation 
> when deleting. Thank you for your excellent comments and feedback. 
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alan,
>>
>> I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget
>>
>> According to the docs:
>>
>> There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
>>> tm-delete-tiddler 
>>> :
>>>
>>>- *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*
>>>
>>>
>>>- No automatic updating of the story list
>>>
>>>
>>>- No special handling of draft tiddlers
>>>
>>> I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would handle 
>> the confirmation.
>>
>> Best,
>> Diego
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to get 
>>> that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way to 
>>> accomplish this?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-16 Thread Alan Aldrich
I have uploaded a new version of TiddlyTables that includes a confirmation 
when deleting. Thank you for your excellent comments and feedback. 

http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

Cheers,
Alan

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Alan,
>
> I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget
>
> According to the docs:
>
> There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
>> tm-delete-tiddler 
>> :
>>
>>- *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*
>>
>>
>>- No automatic updating of the story list
>>
>>
>>- No special handling of draft tiddlers
>>
>> I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would handle 
> the confirmation.
>
> Best,
> Diego
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to get 
>> that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way to 
>> accomplish this?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread Alan Aldrich
Thank you Diego, 

You refreshed my memory on why I haven't fixed this yet. The 
tm-delete-tiddler message works great on the body template button (for 
deleting individual records) but it doesn't work as well in the header 
template button (for deleting all visible records) because it doesn't allow 
a filter as its input like the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget does, at least not 
that I know of. I could create a Modal that pops up and asks for a 
confirmation for the header button. Do you know of another way?



On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Alan,
>
> I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget
>
> According to the docs:
>
> There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
>> tm-delete-tiddler 
>> :
>>
>>- *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*
>>
>>
>>- No automatic updating of the story list
>>
>>
>>- No special handling of draft tiddlers
>>
>> I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would handle 
> the confirmation.
>
> Best,
> Diego
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to get 
>> that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way to 
>> accomplish this?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread TonyM
Alan

I just assumed sorry. You have already done it.

Love your work 

Thanks
Tony

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread Alan Aldrich
Tony,

The layout utilizes the  elements. Here is the tiddler 
that controls that: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/view.
I may not understand your suggestion fully, but printing a table (one that 
is long enough to span multiple sheets) should produce the expected 
results. That is, the header and footer repeat on each page and rows are 
not cut off. I have tested this in Firefox and Chrome. Are you seeing 
something different? What browser are you using?


On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> Since your solution is quite exhaustive I am yet to discover its details.
>
> I note you have addressed screen pagination very well. 
>
> I Just wanted to point out that if displaying a single table (without 
> screen pagination) we can open the tiddler in a new window and print it 
> (often to PDF) it would be great (with print pagination). I have learned of 
> later this is fairly trivial for table only by including 
> `` tags in the html table layout. Avoiding a break in 
> TD's is almost all that needs to be done.
>
> Please consider this as an enhancement. This would make tiddlywiki a 
> powerful way to publish tabulated data.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 5:01:41 AM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
>> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
>> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
>> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
>> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
>> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>>
>> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
>> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
>> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
>> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
>> installation instructions and examples:
>>
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
>> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
>> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
>> any feedback. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan Aldrich
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Alan,

I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget

According to the docs:

There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
> tm-delete-tiddler 
> :
>
>- *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*
>
>
>- No automatic updating of the story list
>
>
>- No special handling of draft tiddlers
>
> I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would handle 
the confirmation.

Best,
Diego


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>
> I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to get 
> that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way to 
> accomplish this?

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread TonyM
Alan,

Since your solution is quite exhaustive I am yet to discover its details.

I note you have addressed screen pagination very well. 

I Just wanted to point out that if displaying a single table (without 
screen pagination) we can open the tiddler in a new window and print it 
(often to PDF) it would be great (with print pagination). I have learned of 
later this is fairly trivial for table only by including 
`` tags in the html table layout. Avoiding a break in 
TD's is almost all that needs to be done.

Please consider this as an enhancement. This would make tiddlywiki a 
powerful way to publish tabulated data.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 5:01:41 AM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread Alan Aldrich
I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to get that in 
the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way to accomplish this?

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread Alan Aldrich
On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:57:01 AM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
> Hey Alan,
> 
> 
> This is wonderful! I am playing around with it and very impressed!! I will 
> have more thoughts as I continue to play around, but in the meantime, I would 
> strongly suggest making the suggestion you already have listed:
> 
> 
> "Confirmation before deletion on delete column."
> 
> 
> be a much higher priority. I think *nothing* in TW should cause deletion 
> without confirmation. 
> 
> 
> Thanks for all your excellent work! 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 2:01:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
> 
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the community. 
> First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating TiddlyWiki and 
> everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs of TiddlyWiki I 
> started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually improving in my 
> spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up recently and would like 
> to share it with the community. 
> 
> 
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is a 
> fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength by 
> creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a tabular 
> way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains installation 
> instructions and examples:
> 
> 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
> 
> 
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate any 
> feedback. 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich

I agree, I will try to get that in the next version. Do you know of a simple 
and standard way to accomplish this?

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread Alan Aldrich
I agree, I will try to get that in the next version. Do you know of a simple 
and standard way to accomplish this?

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-10 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Alan,

This is wonderful! I am playing around with it and very impressed!! I will 
have more thoughts as I continue to play around, but in the meantime, I 
would strongly suggest making the suggestion you already have listed:

"Confirmation before deletion on delete column."

be a much higher priority. I think *nothing* in TW should cause deletion 
without confirmation. 

Thanks for all your excellent work! 


On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 2:01:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-09 Thread TonyM
Alan,

Thanks so much for sharing this to the community. I have started 
investigating and its looks great. I see you have put in the work to 
publish it. I have being working with tables and field definitions of late 
myself so will provide a feedback if I can. 

It is perhaps not possible for me to incorporate this into some existing 
solutions but I see great value going forward.

Regards
Tony 

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 5:01:41 AM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-09 Thread Cade Roux
This is very exciting for me.  I'm using a lot of tables of test results 
generated from my data warehouse build/deploy/test process.  Currently they 
are regular TiddlyTables of the form |column|column|column| with checkboxes 
for when individual test case results have been validated against 
requirements but this looks like it could be a good avenue to get more 
functionality.

I look forward to checking it out soon.

Thanks,

Cade

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 2:01:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-09 Thread David Gifford
Great, Alan! I added it to the TiddlyWiki toolmap under Tables 
(https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM)

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 2:01:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Greetings All, I am a long time fan of TiddlyWiki but new to the 
> community. First and foremost, I would like to thank Jeremy for creating 
> TiddlyWiki and everyone who supports it. As a way to learn the ins and outs 
> of TiddlyWiki I started a "table builder" plugin that I have been gradually 
> improving in my spare time. I finally got around to finishing it up 
> recently and would like to share it with the community. 
>
> The ability for the entire wiki to import/export to/from a spreadsheet is 
> a fascinating feature of TiddlyWiki, and I wanted to build on that strength 
> by creating a simple way to query data in the wiki and display it in a 
> tabular way. I am calling it TiddlyTables. The following link contains 
> installation instructions and examples:
>
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> There is also a "task manager" plugin that can be downloaded. Its primary 
> purpose is to demonstrate the features of TiddlyTables. I look forward to 
> hearing from you. I will do my best to answer questions and I appreciate 
> any feedback. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan Aldrich
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-09-09 Thread PMario
Hi Alan,

Very interesting project. ... Didn't look at the code, but the shown 
use-cases are really great!!
Thx for sharing!

-mario

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