[twitter-dev] Re: Authentication required for Twitter REST API Method: trends available

2009-11-10 Thread Rich

Thank Raffi

Can it have a coming soon tag too it like the ReTweet documents.
However I notice that home_timeline still has coming soon and that has
been available for sometime.

On Nov 9, 10:33 pm, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote:
 hi all
 .

 i really do apologise if it wasn't clear -- the API isn't open yet.  
 the docs are there to give you all a heads up on what the endpoints  
 will look like.  we expect to launch within a month.



  Dear Twitter API peeps,

  The API doccos for Twitter REST API Method: trends
  available (https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter%20REST%20API
  %20Method:%20trends%20available) say that no authentication is
  required, but I think it is:

     $ curlhttp://api.twitter.com/1/trends/available.json
     {request:/1/trends/available.json,error:Could not
  authenticate you.}

  Cheers
  Nic

 --
 Raffi Krikorian
 Twitter Platform Team
 ra...@twitter.com | @raffi


[twitter-dev] Re: Developer Preview: Trends API

2009-11-10 Thread bob.hitching

hi raffi, this is great.
+1 on being about to query trends by lat, lng, radius (or using a
bounding box spatial query)

this might help what i am doing with GeoMeme - http://www.geome.me
which currently uses the Yahoo Term Extraction API to work out
trending topics at *any* lat / lng position.

keen to hear your thoughts on GeoMeme if you are willing / able.

keep up the geo!

cheers, bob

On Nov 10, 9:13 am, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote:
 We've heard from lots of users that trending topics, as seen on the  
 twitter.com homepage and on search.twitter.com, are a fun way to  
 figure out what's going on in the Twitter-verse at this very instant.  
 The one feature request that we've heard over and over, however, is  
 what's going on where I am?.  To answer that, we wanted to give you  
 all a heads up regarding the new Trends API that we're launching.  
 This API will open up trending information that is specific to a  
 number of locations around the world.

 At a high level, there will be two new endpoints:

 * an endpoint to give a listing of all locations that trends are  
 available for, and
 * an endpoint to actually allow you to query by a specific location.

 We're using Yahoo!'s Where on Earth IDs (WOEIDs) to name each location  
 that we have information for -- we're doing so because those IDs give  
 not only language-agnostic, but also permanent, stable, and unique  
 identifiers for geographic locations.  For example, San Francisco has  
 a permanent and unique WOEID of 2487956, London has 44418, and the  
 Earth has WOEID 1.  You can find out more about those IDs 
 athttp://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/
 .  The EXAMPLES section at the bottom of the documentation's landing  
 page shows an example of how to find out the WOEID of a specific place.

 To start reading through the documentation, check out:

 https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-trends-avai...https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-trends-loca...

 It should be noted that at launch, unlike the trends that are  
 available by the search API, these localized trends will not be rolled  
 up into daily and weekly trends.  Those rollups may come in a future  
 release.

 --
 Raffi Krikorian
 Twitter Platform Team
 ra...@twitter.com | @raffi


[twitter-dev] Re: Authentication required for Twitter REST API Method: trends available

2009-11-10 Thread Raffi Krikorian


whoops!  good catch!  i had a [COMING SOON] on the index page of the  
wiki, but not on the individual pages.  corrected!



Thank Raffi

Can it have a coming soon tag too it like the ReTweet documents.
However I notice that home_timeline still has coming soon and that has
been available for sometime.


hi all

i really do apologise if it wasn't clear -- the API isn't open yet.
the docs are there to give you all a heads up on what the endpoints
will look like.  we expect to launch within a month.


Dear Twitter API peeps,



The API doccos for Twitter REST API Method: trends
available (https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter%20REST%20API
%20Method:%20trends%20available) say that no authentication is
required, but I think it is:



   $ curlhttp://api.twitter.com/1/trends/available.json
   {request:/1/trends/available.json,error:Could not
authenticate you.}



Cheers
Nic


--
Raffi Krikorian
Twitter Platform Team
ra...@twitter.com | @raffi






[twitter-dev] Re: Blocking vs non-blocking list creation: list streams are different

2009-11-10 Thread cadams500

I''m not sure if it's related or not... but I had a very similar
problem with following users for non-list based items. In fact, even
when I would add new users synchronously, I had to put a sleep in
there of a few seconds. If I didn't sleep between follow calls, the
account would reflect that I had been following the users, but I would
never receive their status in my stream. (For example, the account on
the website would say I was following 10 people, but I'd only ever get
the status for 2)

If I put a sleep of a few seconds, everything worked perfectly. So, it
seems like the list-based following might suffer from the same issue
as the non-list based following.

I know it doesn't help solve your issue, but maybe others have noticed
a similar problem and twitter can look into it.

On Nov 10, 12:20 am, Eric Gilbert eegilb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm developing an app that builds a few lists. Since it seems the only
 way to add users to lists is one id per call (please let me know if
 I'm mistaken), I experimented with populating the lists
 asynchronously. Both seem to build the list fine, and of course async
 is much faster. Here's the strange thing: although the lists created
 with each method have the same membership list, the lists streams are
 not the same. (Sync seems to be doing the right thing, but I haven't
 verified this rigorously.) For example, see

 http://twitter.com/eegilbert/right  vshttp://twitter.com/eegilbert/notsoright

 Strange.

 Cheers,
 Eric


[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support

2009-11-10 Thread TJ Luoma

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Emrah e...@ekanet.net wrote:
 That's the main point of my suggestion! It helps avoiding the need of
 making calculation to know at what time a Tweet has been posted
 according to the poster's timezone. It doesn't make sense to see that
 Jeff said Good morning at 12:30 even though it was 06:30 for him... Of
 course for a personal timeline I will need to have the 13:30
 information, but I would appreciate to have a mention of Jeff's timezone
 somewhere. For now, I must calculate each post's timestamp, whether it
 comes from India, Switzerland, New-York or Australia...

 If tweets all start having variable timezones, it is just another
 thing that has to be calculated around to get times into the local
 timezone for end users.

 I am not going to repeat myself...

 I still believe this feature would emphasize the international impact of
 Twitter and improve the user experience.

 What do you think?

I think it's solving a problem that doesn't exist. It doesn't bother
me to see my friends in Australia talking about going to bed when it's
morning for me.  And how are you going to decide whether or not it's a
pertinent message? If my mom posts Not feeling well, going to bed
at 9pm, are you going to show that message if I'm in another timezone?
 Or if a friend posts Great night, just getting to bed at 4am their
time?  Good morning! I slept 18 hours!

Seriously, I don't see a) why this is a problem or b) even if you
accept that it is a problem, how you'd implement a solution.

Now if you could find a way to filter out political message or
pro-Yankees posts, THAT would solve a real world problem :-)

TjL


[twitter-dev] can't follow - js broken

2009-11-10 Thread markbrown4

I've been getting the following when trying to follow another user for
the last couple of days..

$.metadata is undefined
[Break on this error] $.metadata.setType(attr,data);var
LI...wrong. Please try again!)).show()}}))};lists.js...257546991
(line 1)
twttr is not defined
[Break on this error] twttr.form_authenticity_token = 'a...
3677c17c35b33e3f21ce57c831f556b90bd16';\ndaniel15 (line 747)
initializePage is not defined
[Break on this error] initializePage();\n


[twitter-dev] Count for statuses from a list appears to do nothing

2009-11-10 Thread Ryan Bigg

Specifying different count on the request appears to send back the
same file:

ryanb...@fp:mocra-web (master)$ wget http://api.twitter.com/1/drnic/
lists/mocra/statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=100
--2009-11-10 11:13:41--  
http://api.twitter.com/1/drnic/lists/mocra/statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=100
Resolving api.twitter.com... 128.121.146.109
Connecting to api.twitter.com|128.121.146.109|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 24800 (24K) [application/json]
Saving to: `statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=100'

100%
[==]
24,800  --.-K/s   in 0.02s

2009-11-10 11:13:42 (1.56 MB/s) - `statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter
()count=100' saved [24800/24800]

ryanb...@fp:mocra-web (master)$ wget http://api.twitter.com/1/drnic/
lists/mocra/statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=5
--2009-11-10 11:13:51--  
http://api.twitter.com/1/drnic/lists/mocra/statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=5
Resolving api.twitter.com... 128.121.146.109
Connecting to api.twitter.com|128.121.146.109|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 24800 (24K) [application/json]
Saving to: `statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=5'

100%
[==]
24,800  --.-K/s   in 0.02s

2009-11-10 11:13:51 (1.37 MB/s) - `statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter
()count=5' saved [24800/24800]

ryanb...@fp:mocra-web (master)$

Even though the API here says you can specify one:
http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-GET-list-statuses?SearchFor=%3AListsp=5

What gives?


[twitter-dev] Re: Blocking vs non-blocking list creation: list streams are different

2009-11-10 Thread Eric Gilbert

Yes.

On Nov 10, 12:30 am, Tim Haines tmhai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does creating the same list twice via sync'ed methods result in  
 duplicate streams?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10/11/2009, at 7:20 PM, Eric Gilbert eegilb...@gmail.com wrote:



  I'm developing an app that builds a few lists. Since it seems the only
  way to add users to lists is one id per call (please let me know if
  I'm mistaken), I experimented with populating the lists
  asynchronously. Both seem to build the list fine, and of course async
  is much faster. Here's the strange thing: although the lists created
  with each method have the same membership list, the lists streams are
  not the same. (Sync seems to be doing the right thing, but I haven't
  verified this rigorously.) For example, see

 http://twitter.com/eegilbert/right  vs
 http://twitter.com/eegilbert/notsoright

  Strange.

  Cheers,
  Eric


[twitter-dev] Re: Blocking vs non-blocking list creation: list streams are different

2009-11-10 Thread sathia nathan

 hi

   i have created 2 twitter in gmail account  and yahoo account but
i need same user name wat can i do. how it save same user name.


 Cheers,
 Eric




[twitter-dev] Why is my app showing 1 user no matter how many users sign up ?

2009-11-10 Thread Gavin Bong

I've successfully retrieved the access token  secret.
But no matter how many users authorize the app, the admin page shows
only 1 user.
Am I doing something wrong ?

Thanks

Gavin


[twitter-dev] Re: Developer Preview: Trends API

2009-11-10 Thread @giromide

Have you considered embedding some explanation field for each trend
the way Brizzly does it, or would you rather let such clients handle
this? I imagine the real problem for Twitter would be curating trend
explanations.

On Nov 9, 4:13 pm, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote:
 We've heard from lots of users that trending topics, as seen on the  
 twitter.com homepage and on search.twitter.com, are a fun way to  
 figure out what's going on in the Twitter-verse at this very instant.  
 The one feature request that we've heard over and over, however, is  
 what's going on where I am?.  To answer that, we wanted to give you  
 all a heads up regarding the new Trends API that we're launching.  
 This API will open up trending information that is specific to a  
 number of locations around the world.

 At a high level, there will be two new endpoints:

 * an endpoint to give a listing of all locations that trends are  
 available for, and
 * an endpoint to actually allow you to query by a specific location.

 We're using Yahoo!'s Where on Earth IDs (WOEIDs) to name each location  
 that we have information for -- we're doing so because those IDs give  
 not only language-agnostic, but also permanent, stable, and unique  
 identifiers for geographic locations.  For example, San Francisco has  
 a permanent and unique WOEID of2487956, London has 44418, and the  
 Earth has WOEID 1.  You can find out more about those IDs 
 athttp://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/
 .  The EXAMPLES section at the bottom of the documentation's landing  
 page shows an example of how to find out the WOEID of a specific place.

 To start reading through the documentation, check out:

 https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-trends-avai...https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-trends-loca...

 It should be noted that at launch, unlike the trends that are  
 available by the search API, these localized trends will not be rolled  
 up into daily and weekly trends.  Those rollups may come in a future  
 release.

 --
 Raffi Krikorian
 Twitter Platform Team
 ra...@twitter.com | @raffi


[twitter-dev] Re: Developer Preview: Trends API

2009-11-10 Thread Raffi Krikorian


by trend explanations, do you mean http://whatthetrend.com/?


Have you considered embedding some explanation field for each trend
the way Brizzly does it, or would you rather let such clients handle
this? I imagine the real problem for Twitter would be curating trend
explanations.


We've heard from lots of users that trending topics, as seen on the
twitter.com homepage and on search.twitter.com, are a fun way to
figure out what's going on in the Twitter-verse at this very instant.
The one feature request that we've heard over and over, however, is
what's going on where I am?.  To answer that, we wanted to give you
all a heads up regarding the new Trends API that we're launching.
This API will open up trending information that is specific to a
number of locations around the world.

At a high level, there will be two new endpoints:

* an endpoint to give a listing of all locations that trends are
available for, and
* an endpoint to actually allow you to query by a specific location.

We're using Yahoo!'s Where on Earth IDs (WOEIDs) to name each  
location

that we have information for -- we're doing so because those IDs give
not only language-agnostic, but also permanent, stable, and unique
identifiers for geographic locations.  For example, San Francisco has
a permanent and unique WOEID of2487956, London has 44418, and the
Earth has WOEID 1.  You can find out more about those IDs 
athttp://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/
.  The EXAMPLES section at the bottom of the documentation's landing
page shows an example of how to find out the WOEID of a specific  
place.


To start reading through the documentation, check out:

https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-trends-avai...https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-trends-loca 
...


It should be noted that at launch, unlike the trends that are
available by the search API, these localized trends will not be  
rolled

up into daily and weekly trends.  Those rollups may come in a future
release.


--
Raffi Krikorian
Twitter Platform Team
ra...@twitter.com | @raffi






[twitter-dev] Re: Why is my app showing 1 user no matter how many users sign up ?

2009-11-10 Thread shiplu
Yes, you must be doing something wrong. But its not related to twitter api.
Its related to you application logic.
-- 
A K M Mokaddim
http://talk.cmyweb.net
http://twitter.com/shiplu
Stop Top Posting !!
বাংলিশ লেখার চাইতে বাংলা লেখা অনেক ভাল


[twitter-dev] Updates not being indexed?

2009-11-10 Thread neal rauhauser
   I have a userid that automatically places messages for campaigns and
initiatives - political stuff, House  Senate, health care reform, etc.

http://twitter.com/ProgressivePST


   Last night I rounded up links for all 435 House seats and began
populating their hashtags.

#MA08 is represented by Michael Capuano http://www.house.gov/capuano/
#CA18 is represented by Dennis Cardoza http://www.house.gov/cardoza/
#MO03 is represented by John Carnahan http://carnahan.house.gov/@repcarnahan


The updates seem to flow based on inspection of the userid's link, but
neither hashtags nor @ messages appear in public search. Am I doing
something wrong? Is the userid tagged as spam? I'd really like to hear from
someone at Twitter about this ...



-- 
mailto:n...@layer3arts.com //
GoogleTalk: nrauhau...@gmail.com
IM: nealrauhauser


[twitter-dev] Re: Updates not being indexed?

2009-11-10 Thread natefanaro

Looks like that account is no longer in the search index. You can test
that by searching for from:ProgressivePST 
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3AProgressivePST

This probably happened because of the amount of automated tweets
containing links that you have.

On Nov 10, 10:41 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
    I have a userid that automatically places messages for campaigns and
 initiatives - political stuff, House  Senate, health care reform, etc.

 http://twitter.com/ProgressivePST

    Last night I rounded up links for all 435 House seats and began
 populating their hashtags.

 #MA08 is represented by Michael Capuanohttp://www.house.gov/capuano/
 #CA18 is represented by Dennis Cardozahttp://www.house.gov/cardoza/
 #MO03 is represented by John 
 Carnahanhttp://carnahan.house.gov/@repcarnahan

     The updates seem to flow based on inspection of the userid's link, but
 neither hashtags nor @ messages appear in public search. Am I doing
 something wrong? Is the userid tagged as spam? I'd really like to hear from
 someone at Twitter about this ...

 --
 mailto:n...@layer3arts.com //
 GoogleTalk: nrauhau...@gmail.com
 IM: nealrauhauser


[twitter-dev] Re: Updates not being indexed?

2009-11-10 Thread neal rauhauser
  I've been kind of slinking along in development mode and I'm not terribly
slick with Twitter. I'm now at a point where there is going to be a LOT of
attention on this - how does one ask/register/apologize/grovel to be able to
do a higher volume of messaging?

  I've been digging for tech support and right now the low resistance path
seems to be scooting into Boston, knocking on the door at Spark Capital, and
asking for Bijan Sabet. I hope there's an easier method :-)



On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:57 AM, natefanaro natefan...@gmail.com wrote:


 Looks like that account is no longer in the search index. You can test
 that by searching for from:ProgressivePST
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3AProgressivePST

 This probably happened because of the amount of automated tweets
 containing links that you have.

 On Nov 10, 10:41 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a userid that automatically places messages for campaigns and
  initiatives - political stuff, House  Senate, health care reform, etc.
 
  http://twitter.com/ProgressivePST
 
 Last night I rounded up links for all 435 House seats and began
  populating their hashtags.
 
  #MA08 is represented by Michael Capuanohttp://www.house.gov/capuano/
  #CA18 is represented by Dennis Cardozahttp://www.house.gov/cardoza/
  #MO03 is represented by John Carnahanhttp://
 carnahan.house.gov/@repcarnahan
 
  The updates seem to flow based on inspection of the userid's link,
 but
  neither hashtags nor @ messages appear in public search. Am I doing
  something wrong? Is the userid tagged as spam? I'd really like to hear
 from
  someone at Twitter about this ...
 
  --
  mailto:n...@layer3arts.com //
  GoogleTalk: nrauhau...@gmail.com
  IM: nealrauhauser




-- 
mailto:n...@layer3arts.com //
GoogleTalk: nrauhau...@gmail.com
IM: nealrauhauser


[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API leaving alpha status?

2009-11-10 Thread Christian

thanks!
we're moving forward :)



On 6 Nov., 15:19, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nobody knows when it will happen, but it should happen soon. We've
 been working on operational, monitoring and capacity issues to make
 the transition. The majority of the issues are settled, so we're
 getting close.

 In the mean time, however, there is a lot of monitoring and
 operational infrastructure already in place, and, so far, the
 Streaming API has been a very reliable and low latency service. If you
 are planning a service-to-service integration, you should just move
 forward with your plans. If you are planning a Twitter-to-many-clients
 system, you must first discuss your plans with us.

 -John Kaluckihttp://twitter.com/jkalucki
 Services, Twitter Inc.

 On Nov 6, 1:45 am, Christian hu...@hubel-media.de wrote:

  does anybody know when the twitter streaming API will leave alpha
  status?


[twitter-dev] Re: Updates not being indexed?

2009-11-10 Thread natefanaro

It's not really an issue with volume. You are way below the hourly
limit of the number of tweets allowed. Once you hit that limit you'll
know. The api will return an error stating you're over your allowed
status updates for the hour.

From what I can tell not being indexed by search only affects search.
If someone is following or if you mention someone you they will still
see your tweets. I can't speak for Twitter as to why they leave
accounts out of search. It could either be related to reducing how
much data the search service goes through or trying to lessen spammy
tweets. You might be able to email the team at a...@twitter.com to get
back in the search index.

If you are only using search to track your sent tweets you could store
tweet data in your own database.

On Nov 10, 11:11 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
   I've been kind of slinking along in development mode and I'm not terribly
 slick with Twitter. I'm now at a point where there is going to be a LOT of
 attention on this - how does one ask/register/apologize/grovel to be able to
 do a higher volume of messaging?

   I've been digging for tech support and right now the low resistance path
 seems to be scooting into Boston, knocking on the door at Spark Capital, and
 asking for Bijan Sabet. I hope there's an easier method :-)



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:57 AM, natefanaro natefan...@gmail.com wrote:

  Looks like that account is no longer in the search index. You can test
  that by searching for from:ProgressivePST
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3AProgressivePST

  This probably happened because of the amount of automated tweets
  containing links that you have.

  On Nov 10, 10:41 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
      I have a userid that automatically places messages for campaigns and
   initiatives - political stuff, House  Senate, health care reform, etc.

  http://twitter.com/ProgressivePST

      Last night I rounded up links for all 435 House seats and began
   populating their hashtags.

   #MA08 is represented by Michael Capuanohttp://www.house.gov/capuano/
   #CA18 is represented by Dennis Cardozahttp://www.house.gov/cardoza/
   #MO03 is represented by John Carnahanhttp://
  carnahan.house.gov/@repcarnahan

       The updates seem to flow based on inspection of the userid's link,
  but
   neither hashtags nor @ messages appear in public search. Am I doing
   something wrong? Is the userid tagged as spam? I'd really like to hear
  from
   someone at Twitter about this ...

   --
   mailto:n...@layer3arts.com //
   GoogleTalk: nrauhau...@gmail.com
   IM: nealrauhauser

 --
 mailto:n...@layer3arts.com //
 GoogleTalk: nrauhau...@gmail.com
 IM: nealrauhauser


[twitter-dev] Re: Updates not being indexed?

2009-11-10 Thread neal rauhauser
  We've got information sources for all 435 House districts and we're trying
to make their respective hashtags a known information source for residents.
Not being available in search pretty much makes this whole concept a dead
end ... we actually don't want followers on the userid that publishes this
information - it's way too noisy to follow.




On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:38 AM, natefanaro natefan...@gmail.com wrote:


 It's not really an issue with volume. You are way below the hourly
 limit of the number of tweets allowed. Once you hit that limit you'll
 know. The api will return an error stating you're over your allowed
 status updates for the hour.

 From what I can tell not being indexed by search only affects search.
 If someone is following or if you mention someone you they will still
 see your tweets. I can't speak for Twitter as to why they leave
 accounts out of search. It could either be related to reducing how
 much data the search service goes through or trying to lessen spammy
 tweets. You might be able to email the team at a...@twitter.com to get
 back in the search index.

 If you are only using search to track your sent tweets you could store
 tweet data in your own database.

 On Nov 10, 11:11 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been kind of slinking along in development mode and I'm not
 terribly
  slick with Twitter. I'm now at a point where there is going to be a LOT
 of
  attention on this - how does one ask/register/apologize/grovel to be able
 to
  do a higher volume of messaging?
 
I've been digging for tech support and right now the low resistance
 path
  seems to be scooting into Boston, knocking on the door at Spark Capital,
 and
  asking for Bijan Sabet. I hope there's an easier method :-)
 
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:57 AM, natefanaro natefan...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Looks like that account is no longer in the search index. You can test
   that by searching for from:ProgressivePST
  http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3AProgressivePST
 
   This probably happened because of the amount of automated tweets
   containing links that you have.
 
   On Nov 10, 10:41 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
   I have a userid that automatically places messages for campaigns
 and
initiatives - political stuff, House  Senate, health care reform,
 etc.
 
   http://twitter.com/ProgressivePST
 
   Last night I rounded up links for all 435 House seats and began
populating their hashtags.
 
#MA08 is represented by Michael Capuanohttp://www.house.gov/capuano/
#CA18 is represented by Dennis Cardozahttp://www.house.gov/cardoza/
#MO03 is represented by John Carnahanhttp://
   carnahan.house.gov/@repcarnahan
 
The updates seem to flow based on inspection of the userid's
 link,
   but
neither hashtags nor @ messages appear in public search. Am I doing
something wrong? Is the userid tagged as spam? I'd really like to
 hear
   from
someone at Twitter about this ...
 
--
mailto:n...@layer3arts.com //
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IM: nealrauhauser
 
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[twitter-dev] Re: api.twitter.com not returning compressed data

2009-11-10 Thread Dave Briccetti

Jason, I’m glad you mentioned this, because we had neglected to ask
for compressed data in TalkingPuffin.

For others wanting to do this (in Java/Scala):

import java.util.zip.GZIPInputStream

conn.setRequestProperty(Accept-Encoding, gzip)

...

val is = conn.getInputStream
val ce = conn.getHeaderField(Content-Encoding)
XML.load(if (ce == gzip) new GZIPInputStream(is) else is)


[twitter-dev] Re: can FOLLOW, but can't LEAVE

2009-11-10 Thread mikawhite

Cameron  Marcel,

My app accessing the api also failed on the 8th or 9th. All is ok now.


On Nov 9, 4:35 pm, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote:
 Could it be an API issue then? The commands are being posted through
 statuses/update.json.


[twitter-dev] Background Uploading not working

2009-11-10 Thread Kyle Mulka

There seems to be a problem with uploading backgrounds via the API the
last couple days. I've noticed this before, but more so recently.

After trying to upload a new background via the API, the URL for the
background will be updated with the right file name, but the URL it
refers to will give the standard Amazon S3 access denied error
message.

Twitter... please fix this!

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[twitter-dev] direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Better

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
message to a list?

This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
interest group, without bothering your general followers.

Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use cases,
for example something similar to a mailing list.

Cheers,

Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: can FOLLOW, but can't LEAVE

2009-11-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 Cameron  Marcel,
 
 My app accessing the api also failed on the 8th or 9th. All is ok now.

Interesting. Must have been a temporary glitch then. I'll check myself when
I get a free minute.

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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
 message to a list?
 
 This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
 user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
 example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
 interest group, without bothering your general followers.
 
 Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
 single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use cases,
 for example something similar to a mailing list.

Not wild about this, because people don't subscribe to lists, the list
subscribes to them. I'd hate to receive DMs from someone who added me to
@spammer/spammy_spam, for example; I didn't ask for that.

Unless what you're asking is to send DMs to people who *follow* that list?
I'm not wild about that either, since I may have no interest in the actual
person who made the list, but I'm less opposed to that than the former.

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[twitter-dev] Re: Updates not being indexed?

2009-11-10 Thread iematthew

It's been my experience that a user not showing up in FROM:username
searches in the search.twitter.com system are missing because they
were previously suspended or otherwise disabled on Twitter. A screen
name being restored on Twitter doesn't seem to translate into it being
restored in the search system. So if your screen name has ever been
owned by someone else, or banned as a spam account, I'm guessing it
never got removed from the search system blacklist.

On Nov 10, 11:52 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
   We've got information sources for all 435 House districts and we're trying
 to make their respective hashtags a known information source for residents.
 Not being available in search pretty much makes this whole concept a dead
 end ... we actually don't want followers on the userid that publishes this
 information - it's way too noisy to follow.



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:38 AM, natefanaro natefan...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's not really an issue with volume. You are way below the hourly
  limit of the number of tweets allowed. Once you hit that limit you'll
  know. The api will return an error stating you're over your allowed
  status updates for the hour.

  From what I can tell not being indexed by search only affects search.
  If someone is following or if you mention someone you they will still
  see your tweets. I can't speak for Twitter as to why they leave
  accounts out of search. It could either be related to reducing how
  much data the search service goes through or trying to lessen spammy
  tweets. You might be able to email the team at a...@twitter.com to get
  back in the search index.

  If you are only using search to track your sent tweets you could store
  tweet data in your own database.

  On Nov 10, 11:11 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
     I've been kind of slinking along in development mode and I'm not
  terribly
   slick with Twitter. I'm now at a point where there is going to be a LOT
  of
   attention on this - how does one ask/register/apologize/grovel to be able
  to
   do a higher volume of messaging?

     I've been digging for tech support and right now the low resistance
  path
   seems to be scooting into Boston, knocking on the door at Spark Capital,
  and
   asking for Bijan Sabet. I hope there's an easier method :-)

   On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:57 AM, natefanaro natefan...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Looks like that account is no longer in the search index. You can test
that by searching for from:ProgressivePST
   http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3AProgressivePST

This probably happened because of the amount of automated tweets
containing links that you have.

On Nov 10, 10:41 am, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:
    I have a userid that automatically places messages for campaigns
  and
 initiatives - political stuff, House  Senate, health care reform,
  etc.

http://twitter.com/ProgressivePST

    Last night I rounded up links for all 435 House seats and began
 populating their hashtags.

 #MA08 is represented by Michael Capuanohttp://www.house.gov/capuano/
 #CA18 is represented by Dennis Cardozahttp://www.house.gov/cardoza/
 #MO03 is represented by John Carnahanhttp://
carnahan.house.gov/@repcarnahan

     The updates seem to flow based on inspection of the userid's
  link,
but
 neither hashtags nor @ messages appear in public search. Am I doing
 something wrong? Is the userid tagged as spam? I'd really like to
  hear
from
 someone at Twitter about this ...

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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Better

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Hash: SHA1

Cameron Kaiser wrote:
 have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
 message to a list?

 This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
 user is a member of the list).

 Not wild about this, because people don't subscribe to lists,

Well, they do, however that is somewhat beside the point here.

 I'd hate to receive DMs from someone who added me to
 @spammer/spammy_spam, for example;

I propose no such thing. Maybe I was a bit unclear.

 Unless what you're asking is to send DMs to people who *follow* that list?

No. Let's drop the direct message name, and call it directed tweet
instead, not to confuse concepts.

What I mean is that a tweet directed to a list (by a member of that
list) will show up
(a) in the tweet timeline of that list,
(b) and hence also in the friends_timeline of the followers of the list,
(c) but NOT in the user_timeline of the poster.

It differs from a regular tweet in point (c) only.

It is a mechanism to narrow the audience, not widen it, so there is no
spamming opportunity.

Cheers,

Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 What I mean is that a tweet directed to a list (by a member of that
 list) will show up
 (a) in the tweet timeline of that list,
 (b) and hence also in the friends_timeline of the followers of the list,
 (c) but NOT in the user_timeline of the poster.
 
 It differs from a regular tweet in point (c) only.
 
 It is a mechanism to narrow the audience, not widen it, so there is no
 spamming opportunity.

The thing I'm not getting is that I don't decide what lists I'm a member of;
I get added to them by the owner of that list. If @spammymcspammer adds me
to @spammymcspammer/spammy_spam, then anyone on that list can then start
sending me messages *unless* you also have the proviso that you must follow
the list to receive such 'directed tweets'. Is that what you're proposing?

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[twitter-dev] Re: Count for statuses from a list appears to do nothing

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina

You can use the per_page parameter for this. I'll update the
documentation. Should probably support count as well as an alias.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Ryan Bigg radarliste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Specifying different count on the request appears to send back the
 same file:

 ryanb...@fp:mocra-web (master)$ wget http://api.twitter.com/1/drnic/
 lists/mocra/statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=100
 --2009-11-10 11:13:41--  
 http://api.twitter.com/1/drnic/lists/mocra/statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=100
 Resolving api.twitter.com... 128.121.146.109
 Connecting to api.twitter.com|128.121.146.109|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 24800 (24K) [application/json]
 Saving to: `statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=100'

 100%
 [==]
 24,800      --.-K/s   in 0.02s

 2009-11-10 11:13:42 (1.56 MB/s) - `statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter
 ()count=100' saved [24800/24800]

 ryanb...@fp:mocra-web (master)$ wget http://api.twitter.com/1/drnic/
 lists/mocra/statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=5
 --2009-11-10 11:13:51--  
 http://api.twitter.com/1/drnic/lists/mocra/statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=5
 Resolving api.twitter.com... 128.121.146.109
 Connecting to api.twitter.com|128.121.146.109|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 24800 (24K) [application/json]
 Saving to: `statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter()count=5'

 100%
 [==]
 24,800      --.-K/s   in 0.02s

 2009-11-10 11:13:51 (1.37 MB/s) - `statuses.json?callback=updateTwitter
 ()count=5' saved [24800/24800]

 ryanb...@fp:mocra-web (master)$

 Even though the API here says you can specify one:
 http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-GET-list-statuses?SearchFor=%3AListsp=5

 What gives?




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[twitter-dev] Re: 500 ISE on List API Update?

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina

Yes we've been made aware of this. It should be noted that the update
sticks despite the 500 response. It's on our todo list of things to
investigate. Thanks for reporting it.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Aaron Brazell emmenset...@gmail.com wrote:
 I seem to be getting 500 Internal Server Errors on the List API for updating
 a list. Can anyone verify?

 Aaron Brazell
 CEO, Emmense Technologies
 Lead Editor, Technosailor.com
 Author, The WordPress Bible

 e: aa...@technosailor.com
 b: http://technosailor.com
 t: http://twitter.com/technosailor
 p: 443-455-1056Aaron Brazell
 web:: www.technosailor.com
 phone:: 410-608-6620
 skype:: technosailor
 twitter:: @technosailor




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[twitter-dev] 500 ISE on List API Update?

2009-11-10 Thread Aaron Brazell
I seem to be getting 500 Internal Server Errors on the List API for updating
a list. Can anyone verify?


Aaron Brazell
CEO, Emmense Technologies
Lead Editor, Technosailor.com
Author, The WordPress Bible

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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina

That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
those who follow you would receive it.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hi,

 have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
 message to a list?

 This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
 user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
 example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
 interest group, without bothering your general followers.

 Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
 single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use cases,
 for example something similar to a mailing list.

 Cheers,

 Marcus
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 Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

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[twitter-dev] Re: 500 ISE on List API Update?

2009-11-10 Thread Aaron Brazell
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:


 Yes we've been made aware of this. It should be noted that the update
 sticks despite the 500 response. It's on our todo list of things to
 investigate. Thanks for reporting it.


Excellent. While we're at it, we're 404ing on the GET List ID API In
case you didn't know that as well :)


[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Badera

Agreed. Working on an app for service professionals who need the
ability to target their message at an opted-in group.

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∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com wrote:

  There is a solid need for a Tweet to list feature - a political campaign
 might organize volunteers by placing them on a list and would need to hit
 them all at once with a message.

   I have a little script that does this now and it's a high value service in
 the eye of campaigns and initiatives. Twitter implementing this would take
 out an advantage we have now but I'm all in favor of it - it's a good move.

   As a security measure perhaps the listed folk ought to not receive a DM
 directed to a list unless they're following the account that listed them?


    Looking forward to seeing how this shapes up ...



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:

 That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
 rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
 enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
 those who follow you would receive it.

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se wrote:
 
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  Hi,
 
  have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
  message to a list?
 
  This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
  user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
  example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
  interest group, without bothering your general followers.
 
  Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
  single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use cases,
  for example something similar to a mailing list.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Marcus
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 --
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 Twitter Platform Team
 http://twitter.com/noradio



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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread neal rauhauser
   You have to view Twitter in its native environment - desktop/laptop AND
cell phone. People who'd never give their phone number to a political
campaign or ballot initiative will sign up for updates by agreeing to be on
a list and they'll engage in flashmob behavior - just ask Congressman
Stupak's staff what it's like being on the receiving end of a such an event
- they're screaming at people, hanging up, etc, etc.


   Twitter is an organizational sledgehammer for politics and the internet
to cell phone bridge is a key component of this.



On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Marcel,

 How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have
 been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones.

 Here's the scenario.

 MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500
 of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simple
 clicks, his tweet whitening affiliate link to all his followers.

 Dewald

 On Nov 10, 2:19 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
  That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
  rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
  enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
  those who follow you would receive it.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se wrote:
 
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
 
   Hi,
 
   have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
   message to a list?
 
   This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
   user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
   example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
   interest group, without bothering your general followers.
 
   Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
   single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use
 cases,
   for example something similar to a mailing list.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Marcus
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   Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
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   =ARYR
   -END PGP SIGNATURE-
 
  --
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  Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/noradio




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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina

As with all things, there will certainly be vectors for abuse. For
every bad use case, there are just as many or more positive use cases.
We'll certainly be thinking about many on both sides. Thanks for
pointing out some of the potential hazards.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Marcel,

 How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have
 been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones.

 Here's the scenario.

 MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500
 of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simple
 clicks, his tweet whitening affiliate link to all his followers.

 Dewald

 On Nov 10, 2:19 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
 That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
 rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
 enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
 those who follow you would receive it.



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se wrote:

  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1

  Hi,

  have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
  message to a list?

  This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
  user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
  example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
  interest group, without bothering your general followers.

  Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
  single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use cases,
  for example something similar to a mailing list.

  Cheers,

  Marcus
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  =ARYR
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 --
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 Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/noradio




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[twitter-dev] Re: 500 ISE on List API Update?

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina

Worksforme:

mar...@albatross:~TW% master ./bin/twurl /1/noradio/lists/1416.xml
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
list
  id1416/id
  nametall people/name
  full_name@noradio/tall-people/full_name
  slugtall-people/slug
  subscriber_count3/subscriber_count
  member_count3/member_count
  uri/noradio/tall-people/uri
  modepublic/mode
  user

etc ...

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Aaron Brazell emmenset...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:

 Yes we've been made aware of this. It should be noted that the update
 sticks despite the 500 response. It's on our todo list of things to
 investigate. Thanks for reporting it.


 Excellent. While we're at it, we're 404ing on the GET List ID API In
 case you didn't know that as well :)



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[twitter-dev] Proposed changes to the local trends api

2009-11-10 Thread Walter Smulders

Hi fellow developers!

When I saw the local trends api preview that was released yesterday I
felt it wasn't really in line with the old trends api and
inconsistent.

So I made this drawing with my vision on the trends api, I hope you
can all figure this out. If not just reply here and i'll try to
explain it further.

I talked about this on IRC with Raffik and he is willing to make
changes that reflect this layout. And let something know if you got an
even better idea.

The drawing: http://twitpic.com/p0fwj


[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Better

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Marcel Molina wrote:
 That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about.

Very nice to hear! :-)

 rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
 enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
 those who follow you would receive it.

I wasn't thinking of actual DMs - which could well be useful in their
own right.

But I wonder if the sort of directed tweets that I tried to describe
would be even more useful. They would show up in my home timeline, not
the DM inbox.

For the sake of discussion: I follow @alextkachman/groovy-guys and
would love to get Groovy news from the Groovy guys in my home timeline,
but maybe not get tweets from Groovy guys about what they ate for
dinner. So, clueful Groovy guys would direct Groovy news to the list.

Hmm, actually any such directed tweets should also be seen by direct
followers of the poster. They are presumably interested in whatever this
this person tweets.

So, a tweet by user X, directed to a list L, is seen in the
friends_timeline of user Y if:
* Y follows L, or
* Y follows X.

Cheers,

Marcus

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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Better

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Cameron Kaiser wrote:
 The thing I'm not getting is that I don't decide what lists I'm a member of;

Agreed.

 I get added to them by the owner of that list. If @spammymcspammer adds me
 to @spammymcspammer/spammy_spam, then anyone on that list can then start
 sending me messages

No. Messages directed to a list are seen only by *followers* of that
list. Exactly like normal tweets by list members.

 *unless* you also have the proviso that you must follow
 the list to receive such 'directed tweets'. Is that what you're proposing?

Yes! :-)

(Let me clarify again that I don't propose to use direct messages for
this - that was perhaps a confusing choice of terminology. The tweets
should show up on the timeline of the list. They are not protected.)

Cheers,

Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: Blocking vs non-blocking list creation: list streams are different

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina

Indeed something looks strange there. I've brought this to the
attention of the team working on the lists backend. I'll let you know
what they discover.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Eric Gilbert eegilb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm developing an app that builds a few lists. Since it seems the only
 way to add users to lists is one id per call (please let me know if
 I'm mistaken), I experimented with populating the lists
 asynchronously. Both seem to build the list fine, and of course async
 is much faster. Here's the strange thing: although the lists created
 with each method have the same membership list, the lists streams are
 not the same. (Sync seems to be doing the right thing, but I haven't
 verified this rigorously.) For example, see

 http://twitter.com/eegilbert/right   vs
 http://twitter.com/eegilbert/notsoright

 Strange.

 Cheers,
 Eric




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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina

But people who are added to MarketerMario's list won't get his list
broadcasts unless they follow him. That's their opt-in. If they have
followed him for whatever reason and decide they do *not* want his
broadcasts, they can simply unfollow him.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Marcel,

 You can circumvent the issue by making the receiving of a DM that is
 sent to a list dependent on two triggers:

 a) You must follow the sender of the DM; and

 b) You must explicitly double opt-in to receive DMs that are sent to
 the list.

 Bona fide use cases will be able to acquire the double opt-ins from
 interested users, while most people will simply not opt-in when
 MarketerMario adds them to his list.

 Dewald

 On Nov 10, 2:34 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
 As with all things, there will certainly be vectors for abuse. For
 every bad use case, there are just as many or more positive use cases.
 We'll certainly be thinking about many on both sides. Thanks for
 pointing out some of the potential hazards.



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Marcel,

  How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have
  been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones.

  Here's the scenario.

  MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500
  of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simple
  clicks, his tweet whitening affiliate link to all his followers.

  Dewald

  On Nov 10, 2:19 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
  That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
  rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
  enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
  those who follow you would receive it.

  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se wrote:

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   Hi,

   have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
   message to a list?

   This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
   user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
   example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
   interest group, without bothering your general followers.

   Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
   single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use cases,
   for example something similar to a mailing list.

   Cheers,

   Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Badera

You shouldn't have to follow someone to opt-in to receive directed
messages. Lists have the potential to be a very different conversation
than your public timeline.

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:

 But people who are added to MarketerMario's list won't get his list
 broadcasts unless they follow him. That's their opt-in. If they have
 followed him for whatever reason and decide they do *not* want his
 broadcasts, they can simply unfollow him.

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Marcel,

 You can circumvent the issue by making the receiving of a DM that is
 sent to a list dependent on two triggers:

 a) You must follow the sender of the DM; and

 b) You must explicitly double opt-in to receive DMs that are sent to
 the list.

 Bona fide use cases will be able to acquire the double opt-ins from
 interested users, while most people will simply not opt-in when
 MarketerMario adds them to his list.

 Dewald

 On Nov 10, 2:34 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
 As with all things, there will certainly be vectors for abuse. For
 every bad use case, there are just as many or more positive use cases.
 We'll certainly be thinking about many on both sides. Thanks for
 pointing out some of the potential hazards.



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Marcel,

  How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have
  been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones.

  Here's the scenario.

  MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500
  of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simple
  clicks, his tweet whitening affiliate link to all his followers.

  Dewald

  On Nov 10, 2:19 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
  That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
  rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
  enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
  those who follow you would receive it.

  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se wrote:

   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1

   Hi,

   have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
   message to a list?

   This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
   user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
   example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
   interest group, without bothering your general followers.

   Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
   single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use 
   cases,
   for example something similar to a mailing list.

   Cheers,

   Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius

Marcel,

If that is the new line of thinking about bulk DMs by Twitter, then I
am immediately going to enable the sending of bulk DMs to all the
followers of a Twitter account in my service.

I deactivated that feature early in the year when Doug advised me that
Twitter does not condone sending bulk DMs to followers.

Dewald

On Nov 10, 2:51 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
 But people who are added to MarketerMario's list won't get his list
 broadcasts unless they follow him. That's their opt-in. If they have
 followed him for whatever reason and decide they do *not* want his
 broadcasts, they can simply unfollow him.



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Marcel,

  You can circumvent the issue by making the receiving of a DM that is
  sent to a list dependent on two triggers:

  a) You must follow the sender of the DM; and

  b) You must explicitly double opt-in to receive DMs that are sent to
  the list.

  Bona fide use cases will be able to acquire the double opt-ins from
  interested users, while most people will simply not opt-in when
  MarketerMario adds them to his list.

  Dewald

  On Nov 10, 2:34 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
  As with all things, there will certainly be vectors for abuse. For
  every bad use case, there are just as many or more positive use cases.
  We'll certainly be thinking about many on both sides. Thanks for
  pointing out some of the potential hazards.

  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

   Marcel,

   How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have
   been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones.

   Here's the scenario.

   MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500
   of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simple
   clicks, his tweet whitening affiliate link to all his followers.

   Dewald

   On Nov 10, 2:19 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
   That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
   rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
   enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
   those who follow you would receive it.

   On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se wrote:

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Hash: SHA1

Hi,

have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
message to a list?

This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
interest group, without bothering your general followers.

Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use 
cases,
for example something similar to a mailing list.

Cheers,

Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius

Marcel,

You should talk to Jillian about this as well. I'm sure she will have
a contrary opinion on the matter.

Dewald

On Nov 10, 2:51 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
 But people who are added to MarketerMario's list won't get his list
 broadcasts unless they follow him. That's their opt-in. If they have
 followed him for whatever reason and decide they do *not* want his
 broadcasts, they can simply unfollow him.



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Marcel,

  You can circumvent the issue by making the receiving of a DM that is
  sent to a list dependent on two triggers:

  a) You must follow the sender of the DM; and

  b) You must explicitly double opt-in to receive DMs that are sent to
  the list.

  Bona fide use cases will be able to acquire the double opt-ins from
  interested users, while most people will simply not opt-in when
  MarketerMario adds them to his list.

  Dewald

  On Nov 10, 2:34 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
  As with all things, there will certainly be vectors for abuse. For
  every bad use case, there are just as many or more positive use cases.
  We'll certainly be thinking about many on both sides. Thanks for
  pointing out some of the potential hazards.

  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

   Marcel,

   How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have
   been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones.

   Here's the scenario.

   MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500
   of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simple
   clicks, his tweet whitening affiliate link to all his followers.

   Dewald

   On Nov 10, 2:19 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
   That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
   rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
   enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
   those who follow you would receive it.

   On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
message to a list?

This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
interest group, without bothering your general followers.

Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use 
cases,
for example something similar to a mailing list.

Cheers,

Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina

I'm not saying any of this is being implemented. I'm just responding
in the abstract about the scenario you were proposing.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Marcel,

 You should talk to Jillian about this as well. I'm sure she will have
 a contrary opinion on the matter.

 Dewald

 On Nov 10, 2:51 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
 But people who are added to MarketerMario's list won't get his list
 broadcasts unless they follow him. That's their opt-in. If they have
 followed him for whatever reason and decide they do *not* want his
 broadcasts, they can simply unfollow him.



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Marcel,

  You can circumvent the issue by making the receiving of a DM that is
  sent to a list dependent on two triggers:

  a) You must follow the sender of the DM; and

  b) You must explicitly double opt-in to receive DMs that are sent to
  the list.

  Bona fide use cases will be able to acquire the double opt-ins from
  interested users, while most people will simply not opt-in when
  MarketerMario adds them to his list.

  Dewald

  On Nov 10, 2:34 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
  As with all things, there will certainly be vectors for abuse. For
  every bad use case, there are just as many or more positive use cases.
  We'll certainly be thinking about many on both sides. Thanks for
  pointing out some of the potential hazards.

  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

   Marcel,

   How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have
   been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones.

   Here's the scenario.

   MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500
   of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simple
   clicks, his tweet whitening affiliate link to all his followers.

   Dewald

   On Nov 10, 2:19 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
   That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
   rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
   enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
   those who follow you would receive it.

   On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se 
   wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
message to a list?

This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided 
the
user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
interest group, without bothering your general followers.

Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use 
cases,
for example something similar to a mailing list.

Cheers,

Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius

Understood. My statement regarding re-enabling that feature was part
of a conditional if statement. For now the logic is continuing to flow
via the else branch.

Dewald

On Nov 10, 3:23 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
 I'm not saying any of this is being implemented. I'm just responding
 in the abstract about the scenario you were proposing.



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Marcel,

  You should talk to Jillian about this as well. I'm sure she will have
  a contrary opinion on the matter.

  Dewald

  On Nov 10, 2:51 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
  But people who are added to MarketerMario's list won't get his list
  broadcasts unless they follow him. That's their opt-in. If they have
  followed him for whatever reason and decide they do *not* want his
  broadcasts, they can simply unfollow him.

  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

   Marcel,

   You can circumvent the issue by making the receiving of a DM that is
   sent to a list dependent on two triggers:

   a) You must follow the sender of the DM; and

   b) You must explicitly double opt-in to receive DMs that are sent to
   the list.

   Bona fide use cases will be able to acquire the double opt-ins from
   interested users, while most people will simply not opt-in when
   MarketerMario adds them to his list.

   Dewald

   On Nov 10, 2:34 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
   As with all things, there will certainly be vectors for abuse. For
   every bad use case, there are just as many or more positive use cases.
   We'll certainly be thinking about many on both sides. Thanks for
   pointing out some of the potential hazards.

   On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com 
   wrote:

Marcel,

How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have
been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones.

Here's the scenario.

MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500
of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simple
clicks, his tweet whitening affiliate link to all his followers.

Dewald

On Nov 10, 2:19 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. 
The
rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
those who follow you would receive it.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se 
wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hi,

 have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of 
 direct
 message to a list?

 This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided 
 the
 user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
 example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
 interest group, without bothering your general followers.

 Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) 
 and
 single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use 
 cases,
 for example something similar to a mailing list.

 Cheers,

 Marcus
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[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dale Folla MeDia
Andrew, Great idea...should be easy enough...just display all the lists and
have an opt in button for each, which lets everyone know they want a
mutual follow relationship for this purpose.  then as people opt in, they
automatically follow each user in list, and then in reverse...although opt
out might be tricky on a few levels.  I would love to use such a tool. Do
you need a domain for that?  I own MyTwibe.com and MyTwibes.com

Hope all is well

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:


 Agreed. Working on an app for service professionals who need the
 ability to target their message at an opted-in group.

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 ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
 ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
 ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, neal rauhauser nrauhau...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   There is a solid need for a Tweet to list feature - a political campaign
  might organize volunteers by placing them on a list and would need to hit
  them all at once with a message.
 
I have a little script that does this now and it's a high value service
 in
  the eye of campaigns and initiatives. Twitter implementing this would
 take
  out an advantage we have now but I'm all in favor of it - it's a good
 move.
 
As a security measure perhaps the listed folk ought to not receive a DM
  directed to a list unless they're following the account that listed them?
 
 
 Looking forward to seeing how this shapes up ...
 
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com
 wrote:
 
  That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The
  rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be
  enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only
  those who follow you would receive it.
 
  On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better mar...@better.se
 wrote:
  
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   Hi,
  
   have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of direct
   message to a list?
  
   This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the
   user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For
   example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a selected
   interest group, without bothering your general followers.
  
   Currently the only granularity provided is whole world (tweet) and
   single recipient (direct message), but this would allow new use
 cases,
   for example something similar to a mailing list.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Marcus
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  http://twitter.com/noradio
 
 
 
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  IM: nealrauhauser
 




-- 
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Fol.la MeDia, LLC


[twitter-dev] Saved search destroy method not always effective?

2009-11-10 Thread Ed Finkler

I'm having some problems getting the saved search destroy method to
actually destroy a search. I'm seeing this both in curl and from Ajax
calls. The following paste shows me making a call to list my searches
from curl, deleting one of the searches, and then getting the list
again. The search does not appear to have been deleted.

http://friendpaste.com/33zXI3iZCKN23vc1NlhCeJ

Anyone else seeing this?

--
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http://funkatron.com
Twitter:@funkatron
AIM: funka7ron
ICQ: 3922133
XMPP:funkat...@gmail.com


[twitter-dev] .NET Class for handling Twitter Updates and Rate Checks

2009-11-10 Thread ch...@stuffworldwide.com

Not many .NET examples out there... here it is... have fun...


using System;

using System.Text;

using System.Net;

using System.IO;

using System.Xml;



namespace Tweeter

{

  public class TwitterTools

  {

#region Members

#endregion

public TwitterTools()

{

  this.Initialize();

}

public TwitterTools(string userName,string password)

{

  this.UserName=userName;

  this.Password=password;



  this.Initialize();

}

private void Initialize()

{

}

public void Dispose()

{

}

#region Properties

public string UserName=null;

public string Password=null;

#endregion

#region Methods

public int Update(string message)

{

  int retval=0;

  string code=null;

  string url=http://twitter.com/account/
rate_limit_status.xml;  //gen.Get(twitterRateService);



  string result=null;

  try

  {

result=this.Request(url + ?

  ,null

  ,GET

  );

//  gen.Test(result);

  }

  catch

  {

result=null;

  }



  if(result==null)

retval=2;

  else

  {

//parse results

try

{

  XmlDocument doc=new XmlDocument();

  doc.LoadXml(result);



  XmlNodeList nodes=doc.SelectNodes(/hash/
remaining-hits);

  int remaining=System.Convert.ToInt32
(nodes[0].InnerText);

  if(remaining=0)

retval=2;



  nodes=null;

  doc=null;

}

catch

{

  retval=2;

}



if(retval!=2)

{

  StringBuilder txt=new StringBuilder();

  txt.Append(status=);

  txt.Append(message);

  code=txt.ToString();



  try

  {

string ret=this.Request(http://
twitter.com/statuses/update.xml//gen.Get(twitterUpdateService)

  ,code);



if(ret!=null)

  retval=1;

else

  retval=0;

  }

  catch

  {

retval=0;

  }

}

  }



  return retval;

}

private string Request(string url,string code)

{

  return this.Request(url,code,POST);

}

private string Request(string url,string code,string
method)

{

  byte[] bytes=null;

  if(code!=null)

bytes=System.Text.Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes
(code);



  string logon=null;

  if(code==null)

logon=Basic  + this.UserName + : +
this.Password;

  else

logon=this.UserName + : + this.Password;

  logon=System.Convert.ToBase64String
(System.Text.Encoding.UTF8.GetBytes(logon));



  //request

  HttpWebRequest req=(HttpWebRequest)WebRequest.Create
(url);

  req.Timeout=1;

  //req.Timeout=System.Convert.ToInt32(gen.Get
(twitterTimeout));

  if(code==null)

req.Headers.Add(Authorization,logon);

  else

req.Headers.Add(Authorization,Basic  +
logon);

  req.ServicePoint.Expect100Continue=false;

  if(code!=null)

  {

req.ContentType=application/x-www-form-
urlencoded;

req.Method=method;

req.ContentLength=code==null ? 0 :
bytes.Length;



Stream trans=req.GetRequestStream();


[twitter-dev] Re: .NET Class for handling Twitter Updates and Rate Checks

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Badera
I for one tend to prefer Google Code or Code Plex for posting lengthy
chunks of code intended for resharing ...

Also, LinqToTwitter is a pretty solid reference implementation ...
FWIW. (Not affiliated, just a user.)

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, ch...@stuffworldwide.com
ch...@stuffworldwide.com wrote:

 Not many .NET examples out there... here it is... have fun...


 using System;

 using System.Text;

 using System.Net;

 using System.IO;

 using System.Xml;



 namespace Tweeter

 {

      public class TwitterTools

      {

            #region Members

            #endregion

            public TwitterTools()

            {

                  this.Initialize();

            }

            public TwitterTools(string userName,string password)

            {

                  this.UserName=userName;

                  this.Password=password;



                  this.Initialize();

            }

            private void Initialize()

            {

            }

            public void Dispose()

            {

            }

            #region Properties

            public string UserName=null;

            public string Password=null;

            #endregion

            #region Methods

            public int Update(string message)

            {

                  int retval=0;

                  string code=null;

                  string url=http://twitter.com/account/
 rate_limit_status.xml;      //gen.Get(twitterRateService);



                  string result=null;

                  try

                  {

                        result=this.Request(url + ?

                              ,null

                              ,GET

                              );

 //                      gen.Test(result);

                  }

                  catch

                  {

                        result=null;

                  }



                  if(result==null)

                        retval=2;

                  else

                  {

                        //parse results

                        try

                        {

                              XmlDocument doc=new XmlDocument();

                              doc.LoadXml(result);



                              XmlNodeList nodes=doc.SelectNodes(/hash/
 remaining-hits);

                              int remaining=System.Convert.ToInt32
 (nodes[0].InnerText);

                              if(remaining=0)

                                    retval=2;



                              nodes=null;

                              doc=null;

                        }

                        catch

                        {

                              retval=2;

                        }



                        if(retval!=2)

                        {

                              StringBuilder txt=new StringBuilder();

                              txt.Append(status=);

                              txt.Append(message);

                              code=txt.ToString();



                              try

                              {

                                    string ret=this.Request(http://
 twitter.com/statuses/update.xml//gen.Get(twitterUpdateService)

                                          ,code);



                                    if(ret!=null)

                                          retval=1;

                                    else

                                          retval=0;

                              }

                              catch

                              {

                                    retval=0;

                              }

                        }

                  }



                  return retval;

            }

            private string Request(string url,string code)

            {

                  return this.Request(url,code,POST);

            }

            private string Request(string url,string code,string
 method)

            {

                  byte[] bytes=null;

                  if(code!=null)

                        bytes=System.Text.Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes
 (code);



                  string logon=null;

                  if(code==null)

                        logon=Basic  + this.UserName + : +
 this.Password;

                  else

                        logon=this.UserName + : + this.Password;

                  logon=System.Convert.ToBase64String
 (System.Text.Encoding.UTF8.GetBytes(logon));



                  //request

                  HttpWebRequest req=(HttpWebRequest)WebRequest.Create
 (url);

                  req.Timeout=1;

                  //req.Timeout=System.Convert.ToInt32(gen.Get
 (twitterTimeout));

                  if(code==null)

                        req.Headers.Add(Authorization,logon);

                

[twitter-dev] MGTwitterEngine - anyone added list support yet?

2009-11-10 Thread Tim Haines
Hey guys,

Has anyone added list support to @mattgemmell's MGTwitterEngine yet?

Cheers,

Tim.


[twitter-dev] Twit Search Performance

2009-11-10 Thread MuratMetu

Hello, I have used topsy for twit search and we are not happy with
performance. Is there any other good api for searching text in the
tweets?


[twitter-dev] Re: Twit Search Performance

2009-11-10 Thread John Kalucki

You can also consider the track parameter to the Streaming API method /
1/statuses/filter.format

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Services, Twitter Inc.


On Nov 10, 2:53 pm, MuratMetu muratm...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello, I have used topsy for twit search and we are not happy with
 performance. Is there any other good api for searching text in the
 tweets?


[twitter-dev] /statuses/retweets_of_me resource does not have the retweet_status element

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Ivey (@ivey)

Marcel, et al

I'm working on bringing our Retweet-commerce tools up to date with the
new RTs, now that they're rolling out, and we've got an issue.

/statuses/retweets_of_me is returning just the statuses, without a
retweet_status element to tell me who did the retweet. Is this a doc
issue, or a bug?


[twitter-dev] I need a lot of help. Would be appreciated.

2009-11-10 Thread justindclark

So I have an idea for a Twitter web app that I think would be super
useful and cool but I have zero experience in any of the required
areas. I have been interested in developing web apps for a while but
can find no really helpful resources anywhere. Can someone help me get
started from step one (as I really have no idea about any of this)? It
would be very much appreciated.


[twitter-dev] Retrieving infomation from twitter search api

2009-11-10 Thread pipigu85

Hi, I am currently using the twitter search api to retrieve tweets but
some of the tweets returned are not fully formed. I followed the link
to the actual tweet itself and it seems that when it comes across
tweets with, it gets cut off

Example: Actual tweet: Just Voted  I am voting for something
   Result that i see: Just Voted

Is there anyway to retrieve the full tweet? I am using Eclipse, Java
to do. Thanks!

This is how i retrieve the search result:

XMLInputFactory inputFactory = XMLInputFactory.newInstance();
InputStream in = new URL(http://search.twitter.com/
search.atom?q= + search + page=1rpp=100).openStream();

XMLEventReader eventReader =
inputFactory.createXMLEventReader(in);
 boolean inEntry = false;
Item currentItem = null;

while (eventReader.hasNext()) {
   XMLEvent event = eventReader.nextEvent();

   System.out.println(event);
   if (event.isStartElement()) {
   StartElement startElement = event.asStartElement();
 if (event.asStartElement().getName
().getLocalPart().equals(title)) {
   event = eventReader.nextEvent();
   String title = event.asCharacters().getData();
   if (!inEntry) {
   channel.setTitle(title);//false
   } else {
   currentItem.setTitle(title);//true
   }

   continue;
   }


[twitter-dev] question with twitter color design

2009-11-10 Thread 爵溪

hi,all
In twitter's 'setting' we can choose 5 colors (background, text,
links, sidebar, sidebar border),but i notice that links in the sidebar
have a hover background color( just like white+sidebar background
color ) ,which is not from the 5 colors i metioned above and not
privided by the api .
any idea how to calculate this color?


[twitter-dev] Re: I need a lot of help. Would be appreciated.

2009-11-10 Thread Yogesh Mali
Depends on what you use to program. If PHP is your choice, start reading
book Twitter:up and running. Nice book for twitter app.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 PM, justindclark justind.cl...@gmail.comwrote:


 So I have an idea for a Twitter web app that I think would be super
 useful and cool but I have zero experience in any of the required
 areas. I have been interested in developing web apps for a while but
 can find no really helpful resources anywhere. Can someone help me get
 started from step one (as I really have no idea about any of this)? It
 would be very much appreciated.



[twitter-dev] Re: I need a lot of help. Would be appreciated.

2009-11-10 Thread neal rauhauser
   Do you have any of the requisite skills? You can obviously run an email
client but there are a few requirements beyond that :-)

  Not being rude here, just noting that to design, code, probably run a
database - these are non-trivial tasks.



On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 PM, justindclark justind.cl...@gmail.comwrote:


 So I have an idea for a Twitter web app that I think would be super
 useful and cool but I have zero experience in any of the required
 areas. I have been interested in developing web apps for a while but
 can find no really helpful resources anywhere. Can someone help me get
 started from step one (as I really have no idea about any of this)? It
 would be very much appreciated.




-- 
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GoogleTalk: nrauhau...@gmail.com
IM: nealrauhauser


[twitter-dev] Re: Developer Preview: Trends API

2009-11-10 Thread @giromide

Yes. I imagine Twitter would rather not be forced to do the legwork on
offering explanations for trends.

On Nov 10, 7:34 am, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote:
 by trend explanations, do you meanhttp://whatthetrend.com/?





  Have you considered embedding some explanation field for each trend
  the way Brizzly does it, or would you rather let such clients handle
  this? I imagine the real problem for Twitter would be curating trend
  explanations.

  We've heard from lots of users that trending topics, as seen on the
  twitter.com homepage and on search.twitter.com, are a fun way to
  figure out what's going on in the Twitter-verse at this very instant.
  The one feature request that we've heard over and over, however, is
  what's going on where I am?.  To answer that, we wanted to give you
  all a heads up regarding the new Trends API that we're launching.
  This API will open up trending information that is specific to a
  number of locations around the world.

  At a high level, there will be two new endpoints:

  * an endpoint to give a listing of all locations that trends are
  available for, and
  * an endpoint to actually allow you to query by a specific location.

  We're using Yahoo!'s Where on Earth IDs (WOEIDs) to name each  
  location
  that we have information for -- we're doing so because those IDs give
  not only language-agnostic, but also permanent, stable, and unique
  identifiers for geographic locations.  For example, San Francisco has
  a permanent and unique WOEID of2487956, London has 44418, and the
  Earth has WOEID 1.  You can find out more about those IDs 
  athttp://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/
  .  The EXAMPLES section at the bottom of the documentation's landing
  page shows an example of how to find out the WOEID of a specific  
  place.

  To start reading through the documentation, check out:

 https://twitterapi.pbworks.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-trends-avai...
  ...

  It should be noted that at launch, unlike the trends that are
  available by the search API, these localized trends will not be  
  rolled
  up into daily and weekly trends.  Those rollups may come in a future
  release.

 --
 Raffi Krikorian
 Twitter Platform Team
 ra...@twitter.com | @raffi


[twitter-dev] Re: Retrieving infomation from twitter search api

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Badera

I've not seen this issue. Do you have a character encoding switch or
miss somewhere?

Also, doesn't asCharacters have some depth to it? Is there an overload
or property at play here?

XMLEvent.asCharacters()

The asCharacters() method return a java.xml.stream.Characters object.
From this object you can obtain the characters themselves, as well as
see if the characters are CDATA, white space, or ignorable white
space.

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∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:10 PM, pipigu85 pipig...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I am currently using the twitter search api to retrieve tweets but
 some of the tweets returned are not fully formed. I followed the link
 to the actual tweet itself and it seems that when it comes across
 tweets with    , it gets cut off

 Example: Actual tweet: Just Voted  I am voting for something
               Result that i see: Just Voted

 Is there anyway to retrieve the full tweet? I am using Eclipse, Java
 to do. Thanks!

 This is how i retrieve the search result:

 XMLInputFactory inputFactory = XMLInputFactory.newInstance();
            InputStream in = new URL(http://search.twitter.com/
 search.atom?q= + search + page=1rpp=100).openStream();

            XMLEventReader eventReader =
 inputFactory.createXMLEventReader(in);
                     boolean inEntry = false;
            Item currentItem = null;

            while (eventReader.hasNext()) {
               XMLEvent event = eventReader.nextEvent();

               System.out.println(event);
               if (event.isStartElement()) {
                   StartElement startElement = event.asStartElement();
                                     if (event.asStartElement().getName
 ().getLocalPart().equals(title)) {
                           event = eventReader.nextEvent();
                           String title = event.asCharacters().getData();
                           if (!inEntry) {
                                   channel.setTitle(title);//false
                           } else {
                                   currentItem.setTitle(title);//true
                           }

                       continue;
                   }



[twitter-dev] Re: Blocking vs non-blocking list creation: list streams are different

2009-11-10 Thread Eric Gilbert

Great. Thanks, Marcel. Looking forward to the answer. My guess: limit
on concurrent follows as countermeasure against bots?

On Nov 10, 12:41 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote:
 Indeed something looks strange there. I've brought this to the
 attention of the team working on the lists backend. I'll let you know
 what they discover.



 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Eric Gilbert eegilb...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm developing an app that builds a few lists. Since it seems the only
  way to add users to lists is one id per call (please let me know if
  I'm mistaken), I experimented with populating the lists
  asynchronously. Both seem to build the list fine, and of course async
  is much faster. Here's the strange thing: although the lists created
  with each method have the same membership list, the lists streams are
  not the same. (Sync seems to be doing the right thing, but I haven't
  verified this rigorously.) For example, see

 http://twitter.com/eegilbert/right  vs
 http://twitter.com/eegilbert/notsoright

  Strange.

  Cheers,
  Eric

 --
 Marcel Molina
 Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/noradio


[twitter-dev] Cached Imaged and The API - Nightmare

2009-11-10 Thread TylerC

One of the tools my app offers is the ability to customize and create
a avatar that can be updated from the site...

the problem I am having is I have all the users cached on the site so
profile image/data do not need to be requested when a persons profile
is being viewed... The problem is the images are appearing on Twitter
just fine but its been 8 hours since the last test I ran on 30 users
and the images still have not been updated in the API data... I just
ran my re-cache script and everything is still the same.. I manually
verified the profile_img_url was the same in both the users/show and
verify_credentials methods... Still the same images.

Is there something going on today or what?


[twitter-dev] Re: question with twitter color design

2009-11-10 Thread TylerC

yes I would also like to know how to set this unmentioned color
variable.

On Nov 10, 11:13 pm, 爵溪 sospar...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,all
 In twitter's 'setting' we can choose 5 colors (background, text,
 links, sidebar, sidebar border),but i notice that links in the sidebar
 have a hover background color( just like white+sidebar background
 color ) ,which is not from the 5 colors i metioned above and not
 privided by the api .
 any idea how to calculate this color?