Re: getting rid of yum
On 15. 12. 2014 at 17:23:48, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:46:53 + Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 10:34 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not having it available would force me to think and thus get used to dnf. Or you could alias yum to echo Use DNF My understanding is that the name dnf is just a dummy placeholder, so that --- once its code matures enough and the old yum code gets obsolete --- dnf will simply be renamed to yum, and its major version number increased by a notch. So the name yum isn't going anywhere, AFAIK. Actually it's the exact opposite, dnf is going to continue being the project name, as renaming it would cause nothing but pain. The discussion about the name took place about a year ago on Fedora devel list if you are interested. You can also find some explanation about the name here: http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/03/12/on-the-name/ Thanks Jan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 15. 12. 2014 at 13:03:54, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not having it available would force me to think and thus get used to dnf. So I try: dnf erase yum I suggest being really skeptical of dnf erase suggestions. It can be brutal (don't try dnf erase kernel for example, it'll remove all kernels including the running one). This is not true, the issue was fixed quite some time ago: [root@boson ~]# dnf erase kernel Dependencies resolved. Error: The operation would result in removing the booted kernel: kernel-3.17.4-200.fc20.x86_64. I also suggest being prepared to file a bug in which case you need to use --debugsolver, e.g. dnf --debugsolver upgrade dnf --debugsolver erase blah And then tar the resulting debug folder in the current directory and attach to the bug. It's close to 100% chance you'll be asked for it so you might as well just provide it from the start. This is definitely a good advice. Even though most of these issues are caused by poor packaging of various Fedora rpms, it helps a lot to know what exactly happened. See this page for more information on how to report a bug so it's as helpful and descriptive as possible: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf/wiki/Bug-Reporting Thanks Jan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 15. 12. 2014 at 10:34:30, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not having it available would force me to think and thus get used to dnf. So I try: dnf erase yum abrt x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System 1.9 M abrt-addon-ccpp x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System 275 k abrt-addon-kerneloops x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System74 k abrt-addon-pstoreoops x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System14 k abrt-addon-python x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System19 k abrt-addon-python3 x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System14 k abrt-addon-vmcore x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System40 k abrt-addon-xorg x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System17 k abrt-cli x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System 0 abrt-libs x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System51 k abrt-plugin-bodhi x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System20 k abrt-python x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System57 k abrt-python3 x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System53 k abrt-retrace-client x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21@System 105 k abrt-tui x86_64 2.3.0-3.fc21 @System24 k anaconda-core x86_64 21.48.21-1.fc21 @System 7.7 M anaconda-gui x86_64 21.48.21-1.fc21 @System 1.2 M anaconda-tui x86_64 21.48.21-1.fc21 @System 373 k anaconda-yum-plugins noarch 1:1.0-10.fc20 @System21 k createrepo noarch 0.10.3-3.fc21 @System 301 k fedup noarch 0.9.0-2.fc21@System 253 k libreport x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System 1.8 M libreport-anaconda x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System15 k libreport-cli x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System29 k libreport-fedora x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System 40 k libreport-gtk x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System 219 k libreport-plugin-bugzilla x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System 147 k libreport-plugin-kerneloops x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System37 k libreport-plugin-logger x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21 @System35 k libreport-plugin-reportuploader x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System71 k libreport-plugin-ureport x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System55 k libreport-python x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System94 k libreport-python3 x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System41 k libreport-web x86_64 2.3.0-5.fc21@System44 k livecd-tools x86_64 1:21.4-1.fc21 @System 144 k lorax x86_64 21.30-1.fc21@System 440 k python-imgcreate x86_64 1:21.4-1.fc21 @System 282 k python-mehnoarch 0.32-3.fc21 @System 251 k python-meh-guinoarch 0.32-3.fc21 @System24 k yum noarch 3.4.3-153.fc21 @System 5.6 M yum-langpacks noarch 0.4.4-1.fc21@System66 k yum-plugin-fastestmirror noarch 1.1.31-27.fc21 @System53 k yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves noarch 1.1.31-27.fc21 @System 26 k yum-utils noarch 1.1.31-27.fc21 @System 324 k Question: why do stuff like createrepo, fedup, livecd-tools, etc still depend on yum? Should they be made to depend on dnf now, in which case, should there be a bug report on this? We have already filed bugs to all those components that still rely on yum and we hope people will port them soon. See the tracking bug [1] for details. We continuously work on improving the documentation so people have some examples to follow when porting their applications. We are also available on #yum @ FreeNode to answer potential questions. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1156491 As for createrepo, that's a different topic. This project is going to die alongside yum, as it shares some of the code base. At this point we are working on createrepo_c. Written in C, it is ~30% more efficient and almost feature complete when compared to the old createrepo (only deltas are missing at this point but work in underway to change that). Thanks Jan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:
Re: getting rid of yum
On 15. 12. 2014 at 22:10:21, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34:30 AM Ranjan Maitra wrote: Question: why do stuff like createrepo, fedup, livecd-tools, etc still depend on yum? Should they be made to depend on dnf now, in which case, should there be a bug report on this? Yum isn't going anywhere anytime soon. DNF doesn't support createrepo/local repositories. Folks are going to use yum for at least a few releases even after F22. Well, yes and no. Yum is not going away completely but some powerful features (like the extended dependency model) are coming to rpm which yum will not keep up with and at that point it will pretty much stop working. Thanks Jan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install MATE on fedora workstation
Thanks, didn't see that before. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Pete Travis li...@petetravis.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2014 6:44 AM, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I installed fedora 21 workstation, and trying to install MATE desktop on it. Command yum groupinstall MATE Desktop attempts to resolve dependencies and fails with conflict between fedora-release-workstation and fedora-release-nonproduct. So, is it possible to install MATE on workstation, or it is GNOME only now? Thanks. -- Please read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F21_bugs#Installation_of_.27environment_groups.27_fails_due_to_conflicts_between_fedora-release_packages . --Pete -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:47 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document formats like dvi, djvu, ps, epub, and so on. That said, I never needed to fill any forms and such stuff into a pdf file, so I wouldn't know of any okular's advanced capabilities beyond actually displaying the file. HTH, :-) Marko For me, Okular has crappy and slowish user interface and user experience. I'm always angry when programs like mc (midnight-commander) open files with Okular instead of Evince. YMMV. PT. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Converting from the workstation product to the XFCE spin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/15/2014 08:54 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Is it possible, with a minimum of fuss and pain? Because of bug 1174530, I can't use Gnome any more. I love Mate desktop... http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download - -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUkBOsAAoJEFOC6wwM39g17IIIAK6m5RmbnM+Mtsrw9kmRpV6S 95LF6LErkUaKwHUrFPeCoMLNTYsY91DVSzHnHhETZcyJBP234YfdkqpFEwYXMxv5 Aaw8NrB8L7TMJiHhkyed6z6k6tilLbbMF3+XVMw+DkTUOIiAULh+wHCgrfY3Q0NN 2P+gD204hr4M/01cAL9Lf8rHeH/dyGVZBy/3OnKiuu1MzGzdWAK3ImW0RgX8CEKf ZOvP5Lzl9CD5az1SmrBmDBSNUeINx8+WONXtBtHUGqZseyExwgDKFwMMehFVK0FQ 1RkhxC7N0Zzjfz8+lO0juANW/Mrt4MlS99NrjUyOiAmJo1ocYNvhBHcggmZJquE= =rh5f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Oracle VirtualBox for F21
On 12/15/2014 10:02 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/16/14 10:43, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:38:58PM +, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Does somebody know when will Oracle make VirtualBox available on its repository for Fedora 21? At the moment, no package for F21 is available: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/ Thanks in advance, Paul what do you mean for fedora 21? Fedora 21 host, or Fedora 21 guest? I'm hosting 4.3.20 on Centos-6, and the Fedora-21 guest works just fine. I even reinstalled the guest additions just now, using the 4.3.20 parts and they installed just fine. what more do you want? I'm using, BTW, the vbox 4.3.20 downloaded from virtualbox.org, not from any repo. He means there is no repo dedicated to F21. So, the repo file [virtualbox] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - VirtualBox baseurl=http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/$releasever/$basearch enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc Doesn't find vbox due to $releasever=21 and that directory doesn't exist. Yes, one can simply download and install the most recent rpm which is VirtualBox-4.3-4.3.20_96996_fedora18-1 I didn't realize I didn't have it installed... running Fedora21.. ran # yum install VirtualBox Installed: VirtualBox.x86_64 0:4.3.20-1.fc21 Dependency Installed: kmod-VirtualBox-3.17.6-300.fc21.x86_64.x86_64 0:4.3.20-2.fc21.1 Complete! yes it is a capital V B.. it matters.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 12/15/2014 11:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 03:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but when I click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a window, then crashes. once I save the attachment to my HD, double-click opens it.. Fedora21.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 12/16/2014 12:44 AM, Doug wrote: Have you looked at Master PDF Editor, as I mentioned in a previous post to this list? --doug running fedora21.. tried to install Master-pdf-editor: # rpm -i master*.rpm file / from install of master-pdf-editor-2.1.90-2.x86_64 conflicts with file from package filesystem-3.2-28.fc21.x86_64 -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 16.12.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but when I click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a window, then Just tried it out of curiosity on a Lenovo laptop with bog standard F21 and thunderbird. No problems here. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Can't play a Video
F20/KDE This is a new install of Fedora 20. When I open a Video file with Dragon player or VLC they will play Audio but no Video, black screen. Is there a possibility that I don't have a certain RPM installed ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On Tue, 2014-12-16 at 10:11 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 12/16/2014 10:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: This probably doesn't matter much to kde users, but pulling in 50 additional packages and 176 M to me is a serious issue. Just as point of comparison, ... LibreOffice on Linux is not some Tonka Toy app (although Tonka Toys are badass, they're obviously not the Real Deal) either, and it has a commensurate size: # dnf install libreoffice Install 85 Packages Total download size: 126 M Installed size: 393 M May be, but some users, including me, dont want to use mixed Qt/GTK. Why not? There's absolutely no problem doing this. Evolution, Libreoffice, Chrome and Firefox are all linked to GTK libraries and I use them under KDE with no difficulty. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: disabling ctrlshiftf produces a find menu.
On Tue, 2014-12-16 at 17:33 +1030, Tim wrote: Tim: /me sings Old MacDonald had an accent... Patrick O'Callaghan: Well, not all of those are accents. There are other diacriticals (ñ for example is not an accented n, it's a different character) and some special symbols. Sorry, I just couldn't resist. It was close enough to ee eye ee eye oh, that the song just jumped into my mind, then I pictured someone with a very heavy accent singing it. And after watching All Creatures Great and Small, all those years ago, I have a thing about accents. Fair enough, and once a jolly swagman to you :-) poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't play a Video
On 12/16/2014 07:07 AM, Mickey wrote: F20/KDE This is a new install of Fedora 20. When I open a Video file with Dragon player or VLC they will play Audio but no Video, black screen. Is there a possibility that I don't have a certain RPM installed ? I see another possibility: you don't have the proper codecs installed for the video you want to play. I would have expected another part of KDE to find the codecs automatically from your enabled repos. I've installed lots of codecs just that way, so that Dragon is more versatile than ever for me. Temlakos -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
Joe Wulf wrote: evince has worked well for me for a good number of years now, and I use cups-pdf for 'printing' pdf's of web pages and such. No issues here with either. From: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:15 PM Subject: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince? So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. So I went to get acrobat, and it seems to be truly gone. I see a thread of people running it in Wine. I shutter at the thought, though I suppose if ya got to. I have AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm here on my F20 system. Is this the last/latest and it will work on F21? What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? I've been using evince for printing pdfs for years, but f20-f21 update broke it. I use either acroread or lp to print pdfs for now. -- -- Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document formats like dvi, djvu, ps, epub, and so on. That said, I never needed to fill any forms and such stuff into a pdf file, so I wouldn't know of any okular's advanced capabilities beyond actually displaying the file. HTH, :-) Marko okular won't print my pdfs correctly (I need landscape, fit to page). -- -- Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Converting from the workstation product to the XFCE spin?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Is it possible, with a minimum of fuss and pain? Have you tried? sudo yum group install Xfce Desktop --exclude fedora-release\* See this if that doesn't work https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1160917 -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger, sudhirkhanger.com, github.com/donniezazen, 5577 8CDB A059 085D 1D60 807F 8C00 45D9 F5EF C394. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
Kevin Martin wrote: Master PDF editor is quite nice but, strangely, when it comes to filling in PDF forms evince works better I've found. However if you need to actually fill in a PDF that doesn't have form fields master PDF editor is the way to go. Regards, Kevin Martin Sent from my Tab Pro running Kitkat! -Original Message- From: Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 8:58 PM Subject: Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince? On 12/15/2014 09:47 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document formats like dvi, djvu, ps, epub, and so on. That said, I never needed to fill any forms and such stuff into a pdf file, so I wouldn't know of any okular's advanced capabilities beyond actually displaying the file. HTH, :-) Marko If you don't mind going beyond the repos, look for Master PDF Editor. It comes in rpm format, so you should be able to install it. I think it beats h*** out of all the Linux FOSS pdf programs. Try it and see! doug MasterPdfEditor is horribly slow to display my pdfs, which contain matplotlib pdfs with thousands of data points. evince is very fast at this. -- -- Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 12/16/2014 06:52 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 16.12.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but when I click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a window, then Just tried it out of curiosity on a Lenovo laptop with bog standard F21 and thunderbird. No problems here. I just checked under attachments, and it shows PDF Document- use evince ( default). when I call evince from the command-line, it opens a window, and the terminal shows this: evince ** (evince:19829): WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 12/16/2014 08:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 12/16/2014 08:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: # dnf install libreoffice Install 85 Packages Total download size: 126 M Installed size: 393 M Yes, ... this is an issue, as well. Well that's ridiculous because now you go down the rabbit hole of saying someone's use case is stupid and therefore that code shouldn't be in the application so that you personally don't have to download and install it. Where did I say this? All I said is, libreoffice has grown fat. Actually, I think, this applies to most of today's SW, with Linux and Linux-SW being no exception. IMO, esp. feature-bloat, GUI-eyecandy and the average developer not caring much about resources have caused them to grow fat. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 12/16/2014 12:33 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 12/16/2014 12:44 AM, Doug wrote: Have you looked at Master PDF Editor, as I mentioned in a previous post to this list? --doug running fedora21.. tried to install Master-pdf-editor: # rpm -i master*.rpm file / from install of master-pdf-editor-2.1.90-2.x86_64 conflicts with file from package filesystem-3.2-28.fc21.x86_64 Yep. Their rpms are crap. From what I am seeing, they are using a version of alien to convert deb binary into rpms, which produces Fedora incompatible and broken results. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Oracle VirtualBox for F21
Chad Kellerman wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Does somebody know when will Oracle make VirtualBox available on its repository for Fedora 21? At the moment, no package for F21 is available: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/ Thanks in advance, Paul I've actually been using the one in the repos. #yum install VirtualBox You have to install the usb ext pack manually, but VirtualBox is there. Chad -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org rpmfusion version of VirtualBox-guest gives this strange error: sudo dnf install VirtualBox-guest Error: package VirtualBox-guest-4.3.20-1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with VirtualBox = 4.3.20-1.fc21 provided by VirtualBox-4.3.20-1.fc21.x86_64 -- -- Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Converting from the workstation product to the XFCE spin?
Sudhir Khanger writes: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Is it possible, with a minimum of fuss and pain? Have you tried? sudo yum group install Xfce Desktop --exclude fedora-release\* See this if that doesn't work https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1160917 I did manage to install the Xfce packages. Unfortunately, switching to an Xfce desktop, at the login prompt, brings up a corrupted Xfce desktop, that still has many Gnome bits running, somehow, including gnome-vfs2, whose latest bug is the one that's driving me away from Gnome. Fortunately, creating a new user results in a clean Xfce desktop that works, so that's what I'll be doing. pgp8LDl7o1Qtf.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Converting from the workstation product to the XFCE spin?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Fortunately, creating a new user results in a clean Xfce desktop that works, so that's what I'll be doing. That's to be expected. Even if you remove gnome packages, those config files are there to stay forever until manually removed. -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger, sudhirkhanger.com, github.com/donniezazen, 5577 8CDB A059 085D 1D60 807F 8C00 45D9 F5EF C394. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Converting from the workstation product to the XFCE spin?
Sudhir Khanger writes: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Fortunately, creating a new user results in a clean Xfce desktop that works, so that's what I'll be doing. That's to be expected. Even if you remove gnome packages, those config files are there to stay forever until manually removed. That doesn't make any sense to me. What's the point of offering one a choice of desktop environments, at the login prompt, if choosing Gnome once ends up hopelessly corrupting all other desktop environments, in perpetuity? After switching back to Gnome, I didn't see any XFCE bits running, in the Gnome session. Gnome is just being obnoxious. I've bashed Gnome before, plenty of times, but I can honestly say that, now, it has truly jumped the shark. pgpHHRvSYsGEL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Converting from the workstation product to the XFCE spin?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 08:21:11AM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: That doesn't make any sense to me. What's the point of offering one a choice of desktop environments, at the login prompt, if choosing Gnome once ends up hopelessly corrupting all other desktop environments, in perpetuity? After switching back to Gnome, I didn't see any XFCE bits running, in the Gnome session. Gnome is just being obnoxious. I've bashed Gnome before, plenty of times, but I can honestly say that, now, it has truly jumped the shark. It's a little hard to tell from your description, but I think what you are seeing is an XFCE feature. See http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/preferences#advanced — or just go to the session preferences and choose the advanced tab. Uncheck Launch GNOME services at startup. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
gnuplot
Hello, In fedora 20, I have gnuplot-4.6.3-6.fc20.x86_64 which gives me error: ';' expected while it used to work fine before. I though that I should try the version for fedora21: Unfortunately, I cannot get the file gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.src.rpm Is there a way to build the rpm from a tgz file for gnuplot ? I guess atht a .spec file would be helpfull! Thank for your help. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
fedora web site
Hello, from firefox, when I go on fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora I am quickly pick off and move to https://getfedora.org/ and then I am stock and cannot access to useful information. How can I get to the fedoraproject.org website and stay there? Thank === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnuplot
On 12/16/14, 10:34, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, In fedora 20, I have gnuplot-4.6.3-6.fc20.x86_64 which gives me error: ';' expected while it used to work fine before. I though that I should try the version for fedora21: Unfortunately, I cannot get the file gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.src.rpm Why can't you install gnuplot on F-21? It upgraded just fine with Fedup from f-20 on my system here: # *rpm -qa | grep gnuplot* /gnuplot-common-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64 // //gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64/ - Derrik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnuplot
Hello, Thank for the advice. However, I used to wait a while before moving to the next version because of the glitches not solved yet! === Patrick DUPR email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de lAtmosphre Universit du Littoral-Cte dOpale Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann 59140 Dunkerque, France === Sent:Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 5:02 PM From:Derrik Walker v2.0 dwal...@doomd.net To:users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: gnuplot On 12/16/14, 10:34, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, In fedora 20, I have gnuplot-4.6.3-6.fc20.x86_64 which gives me error: ; expected while it used to work fine before. I though that I should try the version for fedora21: Unfortunately, I cannot get the file gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.src.rpm Why cant you install gnuplot on F-21? It upgraded just fine with Fedup from f-20 on my system here: # rpm -qa grep gnuplot gnuplot-common-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64 gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64 - Derrik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 12/16/2014 06:13 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Joe Wulf wrote: evince has worked well for me for a good number of years now, and I use cups-pdf for 'printing' pdf's of web pages and such. No issues here with either. From: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:15 PM Subject: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince? So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. So I went to get acrobat, and it seems to be truly gone. I see a thread of people running it in Wine. I shutter at the thought, though I suppose if ya got to. I have AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm here on my F20 system. Is this the last/latest and it will work on F21? What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? I've been using evince for printing pdfs for years, but f20-f21 update broke it. I use either acroread or lp to print pdfs for now. Which version? I'm on 3.14.1 and have no problems printing. Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
recovering data from a preceding installation of Fedora..
Hi, I I had to re install Fedora on my computer, I did it and now I have to restore the data from the old installation. Using an external support for the disc (USB to SATA / IDE converter) I can access the old drive, and using Nautilus to see all the data that I would recover, but I do not have permission to copy them (on the disk where I made the new installation of Fedora). I tried to mount the partition (where the data is recorded that I want to recover), but the directories and the data that I have not mounted directly readable ... So I can not make the transfer of data that I need ... What is the correct way to conduct this operation ??? Thank you Angelo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora web site
Quoting Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com: Hello, from firefox, when I go on fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora I am quickly pick off and move to https://getfedora.org/ and then I am stock and cannot access to useful information. How can I get to the fedoraproject.org website and stay there? Thank That doesn't happen to me, try here: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/Live/x86_64/Fedora-Live-Desktop-x86_64-21-1.iso Dave === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance. -- John Dewey -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnuplot
On 12/16/2014 04:34 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, In fedora 20, I have gnuplot-4.6.3-6.fc20.x86_64 which gives me error: ';' expected while it used to work fine before. I though that I should try the version for fedora21: On my box: - sudo yum install gnuplot Loaded plugins: langpacks Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package gnuplot.x86_64 0:4.6.5-4.fc21 will be installed -- Processing Dependency: gnuplot-common = 4.6.5-4.fc21 for package: gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64 -- Running transaction check --- Package gnuplot-common.x86_64 0:4.6.5-4.fc21 will be installed -- Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved Package Arch Version Repository Size Installing: gnuplot x86_644.6.5-4.fc21 updates 732 k Installing for dependencies: gnuplot-commonx86_644.6.5-4.fc21 updates 611 k Transaction Summary Install 1 Package (+1 Dependent package) Total download size: 1.3 M Installed size: 3.2 M Is this ok [y/d/N]: y Downloading packages: (1/2): gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64.rpm | 732 kB 00:00 (2/2): gnuplot-common-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64.rpm | 611 kB 00:00 Total 2.1 MB/s | 1.3 MB 00:00 Running transaction check Running transaction test Transaction test succeeded Running transaction (shutdown inhibited) Installing : gnuplot-common-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64 1/2 Installing : gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64 2/2 Verifying : gnuplot-common-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64 1/2 Verifying : gnuplot-4.6.5-4.fc21.x86_64 2/2 Installed: gnuplot.x86_64 0:4.6.5-4.fc21 Dependency Installed: gnuplot-common.x86_64 0:4.6.5-4.fc21 Complete! Kind regards Joachim Backes Thank for your help. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- Fedora release 21 (Twenty One) Kernel-3.17.6-300.fc21.x86_64 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: recovering data from a preceding installation of Fedora..
On 12/16/2014 09:05 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote: Hi, I I had to re install Fedora on my computer, I did it and now I have to restore the data from the old installation. Using an external support for the disc (USB to SATA / IDE converter) I can access the old drive, and using Nautilus to see all the data that I would recover, but I do not have permission to copy them (on the disk where I made the new installation of Fedora). I tried to mount the partition (where the data is recorded that I want to recover), but the directories and the data that I have not mounted directly readable ... So I can not make the transfer of data that I need ... What is the correct way to conduct this operation ??? It is most likely that your user ID and group ID (UID and GID) are different on the new installation than they were on the old one. As a result, you'll need to do the mount and copy operations as the root user and convert the UID/GID of the files you're copying from the old installation to the UID and GID of your account on the new system. To find your current UID/GID, log into the new system and issue the command id. Example: [rick@localhost ~]$ id uid=1000(rick) gid=1000(rick) groups=1000(rick),10(wheel) So I'm user ID 1000 and group ID 1000. Now, as the root user, mount your drive and use the cp -an command to copy the files from the old drive to wherever you need them (the -n part will keep you from overwriting existing files on the new system). If you really want to stomp on everything, omit the n (e.g. cp -a only). Also keep in mind that this will NOT copy hidden files or directories (those that start with a ., such as .bashrc and the like). Those you have to copy individually or use a tool such as rsync or find. Once you're done with that, again as root, try using: chown -R youruserID:yourgroupID /path/to/new/files to change the UID and GIDs of the files at /path/to/new/files to your new IDs (that you got from the id command). That's it in a nutshell. There may be better ways to do it and you'll have to adapt these instructions to fit your particular case. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - I'd explain it to you, but your brain might explode. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F21 minimal install?
Do any of the F21 installation media provide a minimal install option anymore? IIRC, the basic server (or whatever it's called) now installs more than 600 packages, around twice as many as the F20 minimal install. -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
Hi all, I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The machine then only booted windows. I made Fedora boot again by grub2-install/grub2-mkconfig. However now when you select windows in the grub menu it will not start because it lost its boot-block. I'm not eager to try windows writing its bootsector again, because I'm afraid I will loose grub2 again. Does anyone know this problem? and how to solve it. Regards Jouk Pax, vel iniusta, utilior est quam iustissimum bellum. (free after Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 b.Chr.-46 b.Chr.) Epistularum ad Atticum 7.1.4.3) Touch not the cat bot a glove -- Jouk Jansen jo...@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl Technische Universiteit Delfttt uu uu ddd Kavli Institute of Nanoscience tt uu uu dddd Nationaal centrum voor HREM tt uu uu dd dd Lorentzweg 1 tt uu uu dd dd 2628 CJ Delfttt uu uu dd dd Nederlandtt uu uu dddd tel. 31-15-2782272 tt uuu ddd -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F21 minimal install?
Hi, 2014-12-16 19:57 GMT+02:00 Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com: Do any of the F21 installation media provide a minimal install option anymore? IIRC, the basic server (or whatever it's called) now installs more than 600 packages, around twice as many as the F20 minimal install. At least with a kickstart config, an F21 installation of less than 300 packages seems to be possible. As the config, I used basically an identical setup to what had worked for me for making minimal F20 installations. -Joonas -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
On 12/16/2014 06:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: Hi all, I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The machine then only booted windows. On my GPT/UEFI Win + F21 system, the last round of Win patches had modified the boot order of the UEFI boot devices. The solution had been to enter the BIOS and move Fedora up in the UEFI-Boot order setup. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: selinux relabel at boot
On 12/13/2014 11:42 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:52:35 -0500 Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: Just a note for someone who might care about this: I foolishly forgot to disable selinux in a system I created by copying all the files from a virtual image. When it booted, it said I've got to relabel everything, this may take a while. So I figured I'd just wait for it, then a few minutes later a message came up about a watchdog expiring and it rebooted the system. What fun :-). I assume it could have done that all day, but I took advantage of the reboot to disable selinux. I'm curious --- after the reboot, selinux should continue relabeling remaining files, right? So I assume that after a certain numbers of reboots it would eventually finish and continue booting? Or not? Though I agree that selinux should somehow inform the watchdog that a global relabel is in progress and that it may take more time than usual... Best, :-) Marko There should be an indicator on the screen telling you the progress of the relabel. DId this machine have a HUGE number of files on it? SELinux should take about as much time as a find / on a system. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Jouk Jansen jo...@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl wrote: Hi all, I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The machine then only booted windows. I made Fedora boot again by grub2-install/grub2-mkconfig. However now when you select windows in the grub menu it will not start because it lost its boot-block. I'm not eager to try windows writing its bootsector again, because I'm afraid I will loose grub2 again. Does anyone know this problem? and how to solve it. Can you boot Fedora and run $ efibootmgr and post the results? I can't tell if this computer has BIOS or UEFI firmware. I thought all Windows 8 pre-installed hardware are UEFI. Also, what do you mean by will not start because it lost its boot block - what's the actual error message? If you can take a cell phone photo and post that somewhere it might be useful to determine if this is a Windows bootloader error or GRUB error. On BIOS computers, grub-install only replaces the first 440 bytes of bootloader code on the 1st sector, none of the other Windows bootloader stages are touched. OnUEFI computers, the bootloaders co-exist on the EFI System partition in different directories. There's no longer such a thing as boot blocks or boot sectors. And grub2-install should be avoided. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: (fedora) Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
Ralf wrote on 16-DEC-2014 19:16:02.04 On 12/16/2014 06:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: Hi all, I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The machine then only booted windows. On my GPT/UEFI Win + F21 system, the last round of Win patches had modified the boot order of the UEFI boot devices. The solution had been to enter the BIOS and move Fedora up in the UEFI-Boot order setup. This is a laptop with one device and F20 and Windows on 2 partitions. So I have no idea how to change the boot-order. Regards Jouk Pax, vel iniusta, utilior est quam iustissimum bellum. (free after Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 b.Chr.-46 b.Chr.) Epistularum ad Atticum 7.1.4.3) Touch not the cat bot a glove -- Jouk Jansen jo...@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl Technische Universiteit Delfttt uu uu ddd Kavli Institute of Nanoscience tt uu uu dddd Nationaal centrum voor HREM tt uu uu dd dd Lorentzweg 1 tt uu uu dd dd 2628 CJ Delfttt uu uu dd dd Nederlandtt uu uu dddd tel. 31-15-2782272 tt uuu ddd -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: selinux relabel at boot
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:36:08 -0500 Daniel J Walsh wrote: There should be an indicator on the screen telling you the progress of the relabel. I don't remember for sure, but I think there was just a cylon eyeball bouncing asterisks, not anything telling me about progress. DId this machine have a HUGE number of files on it? SELinux should take about as much time as a find / on a system. It was a copy of a virtual disk image that had the fedora workstation ISO installed on it, so how ever many files that is :-). All I did was edit a few UUID and msdosNN partition identifiers in grub.cfg and fstab, then booted into it via configfile from a functioning grub. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: (fedora) Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
Chris Murphy wrote on 16-DEC-2014 19:53:19.22 16-DEC-2014 19:53:19.22 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Jouk Jansen joukj at hrem.nano.tudelft.nl wrote: Hi all, I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The machine then only booted windows. I made Fedora boot again by grub2-install/grub2-mkconfig. However now when you select windows in the grub menu it will not start because it lost its boot-block. I'm not eager to try windows writing its bootsector again, because I'm afraid I will loose grub2 again. Does anyone know this problem? and how to solve it. Can you boot Fedora and run $ efibootmgr and post the results? I can't tell if this computer has BIOS or UEFI firmware. I thought all Windows 8 pre-installed hardware are UEFI. BootCurrent: 0005 Timeout: 0 seconds Bootorder: 0005,0003,,0001,0002 Boot* Fedora Boot0001* UEFI: IP4 Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller Boot0002* UEFI: IP6 Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller Boot0003* Windows Boot Manager Boot0005* grub So I think it is an UEFI. Also, what do you mean by will not start because it lost its boot block - what's the actual error message? If you can take a cell phone photo and post that somewhere it might be useful to determine if this is a Windows bootloader error or GRUB error. Error message: error: file `EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi' not found error: you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... On BIOS computers, grub-install only replaces the first 440 bytes of bootloader code on the 1st sector, none of the other Windows bootloader stages are touched. OnUEFI computers, the bootloaders co-exist on the EFI System partition in different directories. There's no longer such a thing as boot blocks or boot sectors. And grub2-install should be avoided. Any idea how to proceed? Regards Jouk Pax, vel iniusta, utilior est quam iustissimum bellum. (free after Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 b.Chr.-46 b.Chr.) Epistularum ad Atticum 7.1.4.3) Touch not the cat bot a glove -- Jouk Jansen jo...@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl Technische Universiteit Delfttt uu uu ddd Kavli Institute of Nanoscience tt uu uu dddd Nationaal centrum voor HREM tt uu uu dd dd Lorentzweg 1 tt uu uu dd dd 2628 CJ Delfttt uu uu dd dd Nederlandtt uu uu dddd tel. 31-15-2782272 tt uuu ddd -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Oracle VirtualBox for F21
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: rpmfusion version of VirtualBox-guest gives this strange error: sudo dnf install VirtualBox-guest Error: package VirtualBox-guest-4.3.20-1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with VirtualBox = 4.3.20-1.fc21 provided by VirtualBox-4.3.20-1.fc21.x86_64 Extension pack and guest additions are different things. VirtualBox will prompt you to download guest additions later when you try to mount guest addition iso. -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger, sudhirkhanger.com, github.com/donniezazen, 5577 8CDB A059 085D 1D60 807F 8C00 45D9 F5EF C394. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 12/16/14 09:31, Jan Zelený wrote: On 15. 12. 2014 at 13:03:54, Chris Murphy wrote: ... I suggest being really skeptical of dnf erase suggestions. It can be brutal (don't try dnf erase kernel for example, it'll remove all kernels including the running one). This is not true, the issue was fixed quite some time ago: On a system recently updated from f20 to f21: # dnf erase kernel ... Removing: kernel x86_64 3.17.4-301.fc21@System 0 kernel x86_64 3.17.4-302.fc21@System 0 kernel x86_64 3.17.6-300.fc21@System 0 ... # uname -a Linux tux 3.17.6-300.fc21.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 8 22:29:32 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [root@boson ~]# dnf erase kernel Dependencies resolved. Error: The operation would result in removing the booted kernel: How come our systems behave differently? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: How come our systems behave differently? Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: (fedora) Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jouk Jansen jo...@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl wrote: BootCurrent: 0005 Timeout: 0 seconds Bootorder: 0005,0003,,0001,0002 Boot* Fedora Boot0001* UEFI: IP4 Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller Boot0002* UEFI: IP6 Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller Boot0003* Windows Boot Manager Boot0005* grub It's UEFI, and you have two GRUBs now, the Fedora prebaked one as part of the grub2-efi package, which is the Boot Fedora entry and is found in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora, and the grub2-install one which is the Boot0005 grub entry and is found in /boot/efi/EFI/grub. They also have different grub.cfgs; the Fedora one goes in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora and the grub one goes in /boot/grub2. Please do this first and post all results: $ parted /dev/sda u s p $ efibootmgr -v $ tree /boot/efi $ os-prober And then to fix the NVRAM extra grub entry and reset the boot order and make a new grub.cfg: $ efibootmgr -b 0005 -B $ efibootmgr -o ,0003,0001,0002 $ grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg Optional: $ rm -rf boot/efi/EFI/grub If you can put the new grub.cfg somewhere to download that'd be useful, I'd like to confirm it finds \efi\microsoft\boot\bootmgfw.efi and has the entry correct. Error message: error: file `EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi' not found error: you need to load the kernel first. Press any key to continue... OK this is a GRUB error message, not a Windows boot loader error message. GRUB can't find the Windows EFI OS Loader for some reason, so hopefully things will either be fixed or enlightened after I see the tree output and the new grub.cfg. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 12/16/14 21:34, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: How come our systems behave differently? Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be installed automatically if dnf is installed? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: (fedora) Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Optional: $ rm -rf boot/efi/EFI/grub DOH! rm -rf /boot/efi/EFI/grub That leading / should be there or it will fail. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 09:39:29PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: How come our systems behave differently? Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be installed automatically if dnf is installed? There are some situations where it'd be nice to have DNF but the plugin behavior isn't necessary. So a hard dependency isn't ideal. And we don't have the details for soft dependencies all worked out. It does seem like it should have been pulled in for an upgrade, one way or another, though. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 12/16/14 21:53, Matthew Miller wrote: There are some situations where it'd be nice to have DNF but the plugin behavior isn't necessary. So a hard dependency isn't ideal. And we OK. That would mean that there are situations where the 'dnf erase kernel' safeguard doesn't work either. Perhaps it would be better to move this particular safeguard into dnf? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't play a Video
On Dec 16, 2014 5:41 PM, Temlakos temla...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/2014 07:07 AM, Mickey wrote: F20/KDE This is a new install of Fedora 20. When I open a Video file with Dragon player or VLC they will play Audio but no Video, black screen. Is there a possibility that I don't have a certain RPM installed ? I see another possibility: you don't have the proper codecs installed for the video you want to play. I would have expected another part of KDE to find the codecs automatically from your enabled repos. I've installed lots of codecs just that way, so that Dragon is more versatile than ever for me. Temlakos How is KDE suppose to find codecs when we don't even ship the long list of patent encumbered codecs? Enable RPMFusion and a list of codecs (from Fedy) I install on my system can be found at https://github.com/donniezazen/fedora#media-codecs. - Sudhir Khanger. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 12/16/2014 12:58 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: OK. That would mean that there are situations where the 'dnf erase kernel' safeguard doesn't work either. Perhaps it would be better to move this particular safeguard into dnf? I know from experience that yum has that safeguard. (It came in very handy when I moved this box to a PAE kernel because it was easier than a complete reinstallation when I installed a new mobo with 8 GB RAM.) Not having it in dnf would be a regression, so shifting that code from a plugin to the main program would make sense. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Oracle VirtualBox for F21
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Sudhir Khanger m...@sudhirkhanger.com wrote: rpmfusion version of VirtualBox-guest gives this strange error: sudo dnf install VirtualBox-guest Error: package VirtualBox-guest-4.3.20-1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with VirtualBox = 4.3.20-1.fc21 provided by VirtualBox-4.3.20-1.fc21.x86_64 Extension pack and guest additions are different things. VirtualBox will prompt you to download guest additions later when you try to mount guest addition iso. Thanks to all who answered my question. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 09:39:29PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: How come our systems behave differently? Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be installed automatically if dnf is installed? There are some situations where it'd be nice to have DNF but the plugin behavior isn't necessary. So a hard dependency isn't ideal. And we don't have the details for soft dependencies all worked out. It does seem like it should have been pulled in for an upgrade, one way or another, though. Upgrades to Fedora 22 should get it. I have added both dnf and the core plugin as default packages to the base group. What I was suggesting is to Lars is to install the plugin manually now and test whether that explains the difference. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F21 minimal install?
On Dec 16, 2014 6:58 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote: Do any of the F21 installation media provide a minimal install option anymore? IIRC, the basic server (or whatever it's called) now installs more than 600 packages, around twice as many as the F20 minimal install. If you use a netinstall image from https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/ then you can do a minimal install. That's only 247 packages. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 12/16/14 22:16, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Upgrades to Fedora 22 should get it. I have added both dnf and the core plugin as default packages to the base group. Good! What I was suggesting is to Lars is to install the plugin manually now and test whether that explains the difference. Nah, still wants to remove the running kernel... # yum install dnf-plugins-core ... Installing: dnf-plugins-core noarch 0.1.4-1.fc21 updates 68 k Installing for dependencies: pykickstartnoarch 1.99.63-2.fc21 fedora 323 k ... # dnf erase kernel ... Removing: kernel x86_64 3.17.4-301.fc21@System 0 kernel x86_64 3.17.4-302.fc21@System 0 kernel x86_64 3.17.6-300.fc21@System 0 ... # rpm -qa '*dnf*'|sort dnf-0.6.3-2.fc21.noarch dnf-plugins-core-0.1.4-1.fc21.noarch Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 12/16/14 22:23, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Nah, still wants to remove the running kernel...
Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here?
# ll /etc/{yum,dnf}/protected.d/*
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4 Dec 9 12:36 /etc/dnf/protected.d/dnf.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8 Nov 27 15:07 /etc/yum/protected.d/systemd.conf
# cat /etc/{yum,dnf}/protected.d/*
systemd
dnf
#
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Re: getting rid of yum
On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here? Apparently not: Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected. (from http://rpm-software-management.github.io/dnf-plugins-core/protected_packages.html) So, still strange that it wants to remove my running kernel... I also noted that dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel is still on http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cli_vs_yum.html :) On the same page it says No --skip-broken. I have used this quite often when a single packages stops other packages from being updated. The example on the dnf vs. yum page, There is no equivalent for yum --skip-broken update foo, as silently skipping foo in this case only amounts to masking an error contradicting the user request. is missing the point of the --skip-broken switch, in my opinion. Or will dnf install all updates except the one that is broken (in my use case)? (I have not tested dnf that much to have experienced this myself) Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: disabling ctrlshiftf produces a find menu.
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Re: selinux relabel at boot
What version of Fedora was this? restorecon -p -R / 7.4%^C Shows Percent done now. On 12/16/2014 02:03 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:36:08 -0500 Daniel J Walsh wrote: There should be an indicator on the screen telling you the progress of the relabel. I don't remember for sure, but I think there was just a cylon eyeball bouncing asterisks, not anything telling me about progress. DId this machine have a HUGE number of files on it? SELinux should take about as much time as a find / on a system. It was a copy of a virtual disk image that had the fedora workstation ISO installed on it, so how ever many files that is :-). All I did was edit a few UUID and msdosNN partition identifiers in grub.cfg and fstab, then booted into it via configfile from a functioning grub. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't play a Video
Allegedly, on or about 17 December 2014, Sudhir Khanger sent: How is KDE suppose to find codecs when we don't even ship the long list of patent encumbered codecs? Are there any well supported open source codecs that are badly supported for Windows? The anarchist in me wants to put some files like that on my website to redress the balance. -- All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. ZNQR LBH YBBX -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
On 12/17/14 05:51, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here? Apparently not: Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected. (from http://rpm-software-management.github.io/dnf-plugins-core/protected_packages.html) So, still strange that it wants to remove my running kernel... I also noted that dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel is still on http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cli_vs_yum.html :) On the same page it says No --skip-broken. I have used this quite often when a single packages stops other packages from being updated. The example on the dnf vs. yum page, There is no equivalent for yum --skip-broken update foo, as silently skipping foo in this case only amounts to masking an error contradicting the user request. is missing the point of the --skip-broken switch, in my opinion. Or will dnf install all updates except the one that is broken (in my use case)? (I have not tested dnf that much to have experienced this myself) bugzilla time seems in order? -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
Master PDF editor is quite nice but, strangely, when it comes to filling in PDF forms evince works better I've found. However if you need to actually fill in a PDF that doesn't have form fields master PDF editor is the way to go Thanks a lot for the hint, the screenshots look definitivly promising - I'll give it a try tomorrow. I've been a happy evince user, but the user-interface got worse and worse over time and now it reached the point where I open find myself using AcroRead because I can't bear it anymore ;) Best regards, Clemens -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: selinux relabel at boot
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:58:41 -0500 Daniel J Walsh wrote: What version of Fedora was this? A brand new fedora 21 workstation install. restorecon -p -R / 7.4%^C Shows Percent done now. I'm not sure the actual percentage makes it through systemd though to the messages I was looking at during boot (I had rhgb turned off, so I was booting in text mode). I'm really not sure though if the percent was there and I just didn't notice it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: getting rid of yum
Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here? Apparently not: Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected. (from http://rpm-software-management.github.io/dnf- plugins-core/protected_packages.html) So, still strange that it wants to remove my running kernel... That would be good to file in a bug report. I also noted that dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel is still on http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cli_vs_yum.html Documentation bug Or will dnf install all updates except the one that is broken (in my use case)? (I have not tested dnf that much to have experienced this myself) Correct. dnf works as if you always pass -skip-broken. If you want it to show the breakage for debugging, pass --best Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: disabling ctrlshiftf produces a find menu.
On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 08:28 +1030, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: and once a jolly swagman to you :-) ;-) Shame is that most people only hear the Americanised marching band version of that song. What's known as the Queensland version has a nicer melody. For those unaware of this, you can probably find examples on YouTube. The Seekers used to sing Waltzing Matilda the Queensland way, back in the 1960s, but later did the American version. I remember a version from my youth (many decades ago) which was certainly not a marching band. It might have been The Seekers. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Chris Murphy sent: Android 7.61MB. This just displays them, there's no creation or modification as far as I'm aware. So it's possible most of the code complexity is in the creation and modification. The point is that as any software becomes more capable it necessarily gets bigger. It gets more capable because more people are using, supporting, and coding it. And users are continuously asking for new features and that means it's going to get bigger. So I'm suggesting any successful PDF creator/modifier is going to be a big binary. But when one application gets as big as an entire operating system, or even bigger?! I can't believe that a well designed application should need to be that bloated. And it's only a document handler, not a bloody virtual reality flight simulator. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. ZNQR LBH YBBX -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Paul Cartwright sent: when I click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a window, then crashes. once I save the attachment to my HD, double-click opens it.. Fedora21.. As a test, you could try changing the default application to something like gnome-open, or xdg-open (which are a file handler utilities). Your emailer would palm off the file to the handler, and *it* would open it with the default system application for the type of file it is. That may help you isolate whether it's a Thunderbird problem, or something else. That sort of thing can also help with malformed content, such as emails that don't say the attached file is a PDF file, but describe it as being some unknown type of binary file. The handler will inspect the file, for you. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. ZNQR LBH YBBX -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: (fedora) Re: Fedora and Windows fighting for the bootsector
On 12/16/2014 07:53 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: Ralf wrote on 16-DEC-2014 19:16:02.04 On 12/16/2014 06:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: Hi all, I have a Toshiba (Satelite C50-B-14C). Window 8 was preinstalled. I turned it into a dual boot by shrinking the Windows partition and installing F20. All was fine until I installed some Windows-updates the other day. The machine then only booted windows. On my GPT/UEFI Win + F21 system, the last round of Win patches had modified the boot order of the UEFI boot devices. The solution had been to enter the BIOS and move Fedora up in the UEFI-Boot order setup. This is a laptop with one device and F20 and Windows on 2 partitions. So I have no idea how to change the boot-order. How to enter the BIOS largely varies between models and manufactures. Mine is a Lenovo Flex 2. To enter the BIOS, you have to press the Novo button, then you'll find an entry in its BIOS to change the boot order. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options
When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that page (and stay on it)? Jim Lewis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:10:27 -1000 Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote: When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that page (and stay on it)? Jim Lewis Wow. I can confirm that it does throw me to getfedora.org almost instantly. I'm using Chromium on F20. If you are looking to download a Fedora spin, this appears to work: https://spins.fedoraproject.org/ ~ Ondra -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:10:27 -1000 Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote: When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that page (and stay on it)? Jim Lewis Wow. I can confirm that it does throw me to getfedora.org almost instantly. I'm using Chromium on F20. If you are looking to download a Fedora spin, this appears to work: https://spins.fedoraproject.org/ ~ Ondra Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before. Jim Lewis 512-797-3049 http://jklewis.com - my resume, Java games, and link to book are here. No ads! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options
On 12/17/14 10:31, Jim Lewis wrote: Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before. FWIW, the full (4.5GB) install DVD is no longer produced. The closest you could come would be to use the net install ... You can get that from this page... https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/ It will then allow you to select your Base Environment and Add-ons. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options
On 12/17/14 10:31, Jim Lewis wrote: Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just there by default before. FWIW, the full (4.5GB) install DVD is no longer produced. The closest you could come would be to use the net install ... You can get that from this page... https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/ It will then allow you to select your Base Environment and Add-ons. My actual steps were this: - Burn and install Fedora Workstation. Found it totally useless for me. - Burn and install Fedora-Server. Same thing, not even a GUI. - Burn and install Mate-Compiz. Not bad, at least close what I used to get with a full install. - The Fedora-Server-inst ISO is mentioned (just like you have) so I find, burn, and begin to install it. I am very happy, I can choose Mate, and it looks like I am finally going to get a good install. I then get stopped by Bug 1130550, which looks like something to do with httrack which I think is in the Security package (not sure of my facts here). I investigate, and attempt to install again this time without as many Add-ons. The install goes a whole lot farther, but when I come back to check on it the laptop is dead, except for the Caps Lock light which is blinking about twice a second (never seen that before). I might assume that the Screensaver came on causing this issue, but why that is not disabled during an install just baffles me (along with a lot of these other decisions). I had wiped out my Mate-Compiz install to try inst but since it seemed to work I went back to it. Have a lot of it configured (I can even scan, whooo h!), but keep running into missing packages and features. I guess I took these things for granted with a full install. Jim Lewis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: recovering data from a preceding installation of Fedora..
On 2014-12-16 10:31, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 12/16/2014 09:05 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
Hi,
I I had to re install Fedora on my computer, I did it and now I have to
restore the data from the old installation.
Using an external support for the disc (USB to SATA / IDE converter) I
can access the old drive, and using Nautilus to see all the data that I
would recover, but I do not have permission to copy them (on the disk
where I made the new installation of Fedora).
I tried to mount the partition (where the data is recorded that I want
to recover), but the directories and the data that I have not mounted
directly readable ... So I can not make the transfer of data that I
need ...
What is the correct way to conduct this operation ???
It is most likely that your user ID and group ID (UID and GID) are
different on the new installation than they were on the old one. As
a result, you'll need to do the mount and copy operations as the root
user and convert the UID/GID of the files you're copying from the old
installation to the UID and GID of your account on the new system.
To find your current UID/GID, log into the new system and issue the
command id. Example:
[rick@localhost ~]$ id
uid=1000(rick) gid=1000(rick) groups=1000(rick),10(wheel)
So I'm user ID 1000 and group ID 1000. Now, as the root user, mount
your drive and use the cp -an command to copy the files from the old
drive to wherever you need them (the -n part will keep you from
overwriting existing files on the new system). If you really want to
stomp on everything, omit the n (e.g. cp -a only). Also keep in
mind that this will NOT copy hidden files or directories (those that
start with a ., such as .bashrc and the like). Those you have to
copy individually or use a tool such as rsync or find.
Once you're done with that, again as root, try using:
chown -R youruserID:yourgroupID /path/to/new/files
to change the UID and GIDs of the files at /path/to/new/files to your
new IDs (that you got from the id command).
That's it in a nutshell. There may be better ways to do it and you'll
have to adapt these instructions to fit your particular case.
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If you have copies of the /etc/passwd and /etc/groups files, then you
have an option to move your users to the new machine and then it makes
it much easier to restore files.
From a file that I have used for years. UGIDLIMIT was 500 in the original.
First create a tar ball of old uses (old Linux system). Create a directory:
# mkdir /root/move/
Setup UID filter limit:
# export UGIDLIMIT=1000
Now copy /etc/passwd accounts to /root/move/passwd.mig using awk to
filter out system account (i.e. only copy user accounts)
# awk -v LIMIT=$UGIDLIMIT -F: '($3=LIMIT) ($3!=65534)' /etc/passwd
/root/move/passwd.mig
Copy /etc/group file:
# awk -v LIMIT=$UGIDLIMIT -F: '($3=LIMIT) ($3!=65534)' /etc/group
/root/move/group.mig
Copy /etc/shadow file:
# awk -v LIMIT=$UGIDLIMIT -F: '($3=LIMIT) ($3!=65534) {print $1}'
/etc/passwd | tee - |egrep -f - /etc/shadow /root/move/shadow.mig
Make a backup of /home and /var/spool/mail dirs:
# tar -zcvpf /root/move/home.tar.gz /home
# tar -zcvpf /root/move/mail.tar.gz /var/spool/mail
# mkdir /root/newsusers.bak
# cp /etc/passwd /etc/shadow /etc/group /etc/gshadow /root/newsusers.bak
Now restore passwd and other files in /etc/
# cd /path/to/location
# cat passwd.mig /etc/passwd
# cat group.mig /etc/group
# cat shadow.mig /etc/shadow
# /bin/cp gshadow.mig /etc/gshadow
Please note that you must use (append) and not (create) shell
redirection.
Now copy and extract home.tar.gz to new server /home
# cd /
# tar -zxvf /path/to/location/home.tar.gz
Now copy and extract mail.tar.gz (Mails) to new server /var/spool/mail
# cd /
# tar -zxvf /path/to/location/mail.tar.gz
Now reboot system; when the Linux comes back, your user accounts will
work as they did before on old system:
# reboot
Please note that if you are new to Linux perform above commands in a
sandbox environment. Above technique can be used to UNIX to UNIX OR UNIX
to Linux account migration. You need to make couple of changes but
overall the concept remains the same.
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Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 2014-12-16 16:45, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Chris Murphy sent: Android 7.61MB. This just displays them, there's no creation or modification as far as I'm aware. So it's possible most of the code complexity is in the creation and modification. The point is that as any software becomes more capable it necessarily gets bigger. It gets more capable because more people are using, supporting, and coding it. And users are continuously asking for new features and that means it's going to get bigger. So I'm suggesting any successful PDF creator/modifier is going to be a big binary. But when one application gets as big as an entire operating system, or even bigger?! I can't believe that a well designed application should need to be that bloated. And it's only a document handler, not a bloody virtual reality flight simulator. Have to remember that an application will offer much more than the OS. The OS is a base and the graphics is built onto the base. In comparison to Windows 8.1, Linux (Fedora 19) with all applications is still very small. My wife's laptop with a 100G Windows partition is full. My full / is only 27G including all applications. A base terminal OS will be very small if you want it to be. Robin -- Free, full feature astronomy program at http://www.stellarium.org Free Office Suite at http://www.libreoffice.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
On 2014-12-16 05:14, Neal Becker wrote: Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document formats like dvi, djvu, ps, epub, and so on. That said, I never needed to fill any forms and such stuff into a pdf file, so I wouldn't know of any okular's advanced capabilities beyond actually displaying the file. HTH, :-) Marko okular won't print my pdfs correctly (I need landscape, fit to page). I have had issues in older versions. Have not run into it lately. Robin -- Free, full feature astronomy program at http://www.stellarium.org Free Office Suite at http://www.libreoffice.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
