[VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY
Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley. Annonymous º * JIMMY D.MOORE,Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: DVDs went out today
*Don -* ** *My check is written and will go in the mail today.* *-- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com* * * On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Mailed out 9 DVD's today, so you should have them by Monday, except for Switzerland. I need payments from those who reserved them. Please let me know if you need more time to make payments, and I will keep your # reserved. DonO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Web Page Test
*Rene -* *Tried the link but only got an error message.* *-- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com* On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.dewrote: Hi Gang, if you have some time, pls do me a favor: Check out the site : http://www.alrhome.de/ff/swap.xml It should show some 10 neat flies with names and tyers. There are some links on it, but they do not work. As you see at the extension, it is not html, but xml data. therefore the display of the page depends upon if your browser can handle the xml and the xslt stylesheet (for the IT guys among us). I'm in detail interested, whether older browser or macs can show the page. If it works, it is much easer to create the pages for swaps than do it conventionally with HTML. answers pls to rene.zillm...@t-online.de Thanks Rene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Jeff Frye To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:26 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. -- From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain -- From: jc.flyf...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Tying tube flies Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:40:28 -0700 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I have been interested for a while in tying tube flies. Does anyone have any pointers or experience with that? Jc -- Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Show tying and sales, and 'bennies' -is it worth it?
Don, I never got a thing from Chuck at any of the shows I did for him. When he cut us down to half days at the booths, I could not sell enough flies to pay expenses. I had to decline invitations. After two I declined, naturally I was dropped. I just can't travel like I used to so it really don't matter. Tony --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales, and 'bennies' -is it worth it? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:35 PM Tying shows, like Tony says, are different in how they handle tiers and vendors and selling. Here's my short history: I've been tying at Casper shows since the early 80's, so expenses were no big deal, and I could sell to my heart's content. The 1st out-of-state show I was invited to tie at was the Internat. Sportsman's Expo in Denver in 1995, by Pete Parker. One $$ 'bennie' at that show was a nice personalized ExOfficio Fishing shirt, and the ISE logo on it was a calling card at shows that one had 'arrived' at celebrity status. It was explained to me that tying in the video theater there was a status symbol in the front range arena, and wearing the shirt was your 'badge'. The second benny was my free private tying table, where I could sell anything I wanted (sold lots of flies and took orders). Led to another benny: Ed Rice, the owner, saw my flies at the table and invited me to tie at the San Mateo Show a month later- all expenses paid, plus a free booth (not table) for me to tie and sell, and Cheryl to assist me. I earned it with five 12-hour days on the job. Sold tons of Fantasy Flies and took a lot of orders and met a lot of folks. Pete told me that was the only time he had ever seen Ed pick up tier expenses for any show. Another neat benny for the Denver Show is that I've been featured twice in the Denver Post Sports section at ISE time. Great publicity for my Fantasy Flies. The next show I was invited to was the next year FFF conclave at the Outlaw Inn in Kalispel, MT. Assistance - block of cheaper rooms and lunch tickets. Sold lots of flies there too. And met a ton of real celebrities, one of whom was Lefty. After that, the Green River Fly Swap had me tie at their show for 7 years (after which they lost their city funding), paying an appearance fee ($$), mileage, and picking up the room. Also got a free double booth as the main co-attraction along with (different years) Jack Dennis, Mike Lawson, Gary Lafontaine. Got to sell boucou flies. Got free concession food and drinks, coffee, etc. Plus the red-carpet treatment. Have tied at the Denver ISE every year since. Get a new shirt each year and free entrance for me and Cheryl. Last year they gave Cheryl an honorary shirt just for being stuck with Buggs. So what's that- about 14 ISE shirts now? LOL Different shows come with different bennies. Chuck gave me me the front door booth for the first year, and then a double tying table each year after that. He usually gets good room deals, and Cheryl gets free entry. I like tying for Chuck as he realizes how important the tiers are to his show. He has a special low price for his show shirts. I have about twenty fly-show fishing shirts now, way too many to wear. The West Denver TU years ago (2001+/-) gave me the celebrity booth with Tom Whiting and paid expenses for me to tie until the locals got upset, and so I quit that show- too much politics. Made a lot of good friends there, tho. I've tied across the country from Florida to Cal. to New Orleans to New Jersey to Holland - dozens and dozens of shows of all kinds in between. It's all been good- no complaints really- just burned out. It's always a decision made freely to tie or not to tie. The show I'll never forget was Holland, and the hospitality and generosity and comradery and... If I accepted every show invitation and was fabulously wealthy like Mark R., I'd be doing a show every weekend too, and fishing my way in between. Wait... Cheryl just said No way, Hose' . So I've decided now to stay at home, tie, and drink beer with Buggs and Dr. D, and make DVDs. Burp! DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales I stand corrected on Shows and Conclaves. To me they are all shows., I have been tying at shows since 1989, Conclaves 1994. Doing demo tying since 1987. Have tied on and off from 1945 to 1988. Tony --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 5:50 PM
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain _ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain -- Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain -- New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Web Page Test
Hi Group,this post is rather old. I posted it on Nov. 3rd, as you can see in the header, and now, just 17 days later (days not seconds or mintesG), it surfaces on the list. Maybe you remember, that I did some testing 2 weeks ago.The posts about the fur swap took 12 days. A bit faster.First analysis of the mail header shows that the posts were delayed in the systems of my ISP. therefore no blame to google.In the meantime I removed the test page...ThanksRene-Original Message-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:59:30 +0100Subject: [VFB] Web Page TestFrom: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.deTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.comHi Gang,if you have some time, pls do me a favor:Check out the site : http://www.alrhome.de/ff/swap.xmlIt should show some 10 neat flies with names and tyers. There are somelinks on it, but they do not work.As you see at the extension, it is not html, but xml data. therefore thedisplay of the page depends upon if your browser can handle the xml andthe xslt stylesheet (for the IT guys among us).I'm in detail interested, whether older browser or macs can show the page.If it works, it is much easer to create the pages for swaps than do itconventionally with HTML.answers pls to rene.zillm...@t-online.deThanksRene/> --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Web Page Test
Rene: I just recd that post as well this morning. It was dated Nov 3. I also recd several from other dates as well. It seemed as though one or two from different days were held up or just vanished into thin cyber space air.lol Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:43 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Web Page Test Hi Group, this post is rather old. I posted it on Nov. 3rd, as you can see in the header, and now, just 17 days later (days not seconds or mintesG), it surfaces on the list. Maybe you remember, that I did some testing 2 weeks ago. The posts about the fur swap took 12 days. A bit faster. First analysis of the mail header shows that the posts were delayed in the systems of my ISP. therefore no blame to google. In the meantime I removed the test page... Thanks Rene -Original Message- Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:59:30 +0100 Subject: [VFB] Web Page Test From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Hi Gang, if you have some time, pls do me a favor: Check out the site : http://www.alrhome.de/ff/swap.xml It should show some 10 neat flies with names and tyers. There are some links on it, but they do not work. As you see at the extension, it is not html, but xml data. therefore the display of the page depends upon if your browser can handle the xml and the xslt stylesheet (for the IT guys among us). I'm in detail interested, whether older browser or macs can show the page. If it works, it is much easer to create the pages for swaps than do it conventionally with HTML. answers pls to rene.zillm...@t-online.de Thanks Rene / -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
Alan, Just an idea- I don't fish tube flies. What about a long fisherman's loop that would go through the tube and loop through the hook eye, leaving the knot inside the tube, if it fits. If not, leave the knot far enough in front of the tube to slip the leader back to undo the hook, and swap tube-flies and replace the hook. Other than that, use a standard cinch-knot on the hook, and change tubes just as you would change reg. flies by cutting the knot. If you are dragging big streamers for lakers, you could put a bead in front of the knot and in front of that a little helicopter spin-blade for added vibration to attract fish. My 2 cents. DonO - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. -- From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Reeling left-handed
I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Jimmy, Do you spin-fish? Normal for righties is to cast right and reel left. Even with me, the old bait-casters were a swap-over proposition- cast right-reel right. Then I made the swap to spin-casting, and it became natural. Flyfishing is the same as spin-casting- cast right, reel left. Jerry Goldsmith casts right reels right, so that should tell you how strange that practice is. You need to practice reeling in under tension and without tension. Practice on a spin-caster, too. Also, remember this too. You 'play' a fish with the rod, not the reel. The reel's job is to store line and to feed it out. Feeding it out required some resistance to prevent backlash, or an actual HD Drag to hold a big fish from running off, and thus not having to use your hand to palm the spool. Small fish can be played with loose line, not even using the reel. So how do you do using your left hand to handle slack line, also? Also, when you cast, you are hauling with your left hand, or double-hauling. So the left hand and arm are busy while the right has the job of casting and not tiring out. Take it from me as I invented casting in the first place. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:09 AM Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
When I was young, less than ten I believe, my father gave me his bamboo fly rod gave me a lesson. I don't remember switching hands, but it's possible. A lot of lost brain cells since then. I had a half day lesson maybe seven years ago, about the same time I had my two day fly tying lesson reintroduced myself to fly fishing. Didn't switch hands there, but it was probably already ingrained from my many years of open face spinning. Just seems natural to me to control the rod w/ my dominant hand control the line and/or reel w/ the left. I rarely use the reel when I fly fish, w/ those exceptions when I hook something big enough to run the line through my hand to the reel. You're already controlling the line w/ your left hand until the line's on the water. What do you do if a fish strikes before you switch? From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George E Vincent Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:22 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D BR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.71/2510 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] oops
Sorry - that was meant to be off-list. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Strip line and hang on. J Balmer wrote: What do you do if a fish strikes before you switch? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Thanks George. I vaguely remember Lefty saying that. If it's good enough for Lefty, it's good enough for me. So I'll just keep on doing it my way. Thanks for your input George E Vincent wrote: Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Thanks DonO. I spin-fished in my early chunking winding days, but never felt that I had control of a big fish, so I wound up doing all my years of bass fishing right - handed and reeling right-handed. Yes, when I cast, I strip line and haul with my left hand. I seem to have lots more control this way. Thanks for everone's help. I'm convinced that I don't need to worry about it and since I'm used to it, I'll dance with who brung me. JIMMY D Don Ordes wrote: Jimmy, Do you spin-fish? Normal for righties is to cast right and reel left. Even with me, the old bait-casters were a swap-over proposition- cast right-reel right. Then I made the swap to spin-casting, and it became natural. Flyfishing is the same as spin-casting- cast right, reel left. Jerry Goldsmith casts right reels right, so that should tell you how strange that practice is. You need to practice reeling in under tension and without tension. Practice on a spin-caster, too. Also, remember this too. You 'play' a fish with the rod, not the reel. The reel's job is to store line and to feed it out. Feeding it out required some resistance to prevent backlash, or an actual HD Drag to hold a big fish from running off, and thus not having to use your hand to palm the spool. Small fish can be played with loose line, not even using the reel. So how do you do using your left hand to handle slack line, also? Also, when you cast, you are hauling with your left hand, or double-hauling. So the left hand and arm are busy while the right has the job of casting and not tiring out. Take it from me as I invented casting in the first place. DonO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: DVDs went out today
Don Did you get my check? Mike On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Mailed out 9 DVD's today, so you should have them by Monday, except for Switzerland. I need payments from those who reserved them. Please let me know if you need more time to make payments, and I will keep your # reserved. DonO -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
I tie tubes from 3/8 inch to 2-1/2 inch. I think i did a poor explanation of the blind eye hook. The blind eye hooks have tapered shanks, so you just push the hook up the shank till it jams. If you want to rotate the fly to access the other side just twist tube round the shank. To fish the fly slip the tube fly onto the leader, tie the single or double or treble hook of your choice to the tip of your leader, fly slides down leader till it reaches the hook. to keep the hook in line with the tube slip a piece of neoprene tube onto the bottom of the tube, pull the hook into it, hook and fly stay in line. why not organise a tube fly swap iain From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:48:22 -0700 Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] tube fly sites
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[VFB] tube fly picture
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[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
why not organise a tube fly swap Iain The 'Totally Tubular' swap, man. Kewl man, gnarley, surf's up- hang ten. I'll do a surfboard fly for fishing the tubes, dude. Buggs Not that kind of tube, Buggs... - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies I tie tubes from 3/8 inch to 2-1/2 inch. I think i did a poor explanation of the blind eye hook. The blind eye hooks have tapered shanks, so you just push the hook up the shank till it jams. If you want to rotate the fly to access the other side just twist tube round the shank. To fish the fly slip the tube fly onto the leader, tie the single or double or treble hook of your choice to the tip of your leader, fly slides down leader till it reaches the hook. to keep the hook in line with the tube slip a piece of neoprene tube onto the bottom of the tube, pull the hook into it, hook and fly stay in line. why not organise a tube fly swap iain -- From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:48:22 -0700 Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. -- From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 -- View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
Buggs/DonO/Veronica Because I can tie them, they want to learn, let them run the swap iain why not organise a tube fly swap Iain _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
JimmyD, Oh yeah, get us all going and then post that you like it the old way anyway, and can't change. You must be a Texan with Cajun roots! I guess since you been reeling for 300 years that way, it is sorta' ingrained. What you COULD do is get an electric fly reel, battery powered (just stack them in the grip). A variable frequency drive, programmable chip, difital readout, gps, digital scale, lazer tape-measure, voice recorder so you can fib, catch-camera... Buggs - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Thanks DonO. I spin-fished in my early chunking winding days, but never felt that I had control of a big fish, so I wound up doing all my years of bass fishing right - handed and reeling right-handed. Yes, when I cast, I strip line and haul with my left hand. I seem to have lots more control this way. Thanks for everone's help. I'm convinced that I don't need to worry about it and since I'm used to it, I'll dance with who brung me. JIMMY D Don Ordes wrote: Jimmy, Do you spin-fish? Normal for righties is to cast right and reel left. Even with me, the old bait-casters were a swap-over proposition- cast right-reel right. Then I made the swap to spin-casting, and it became natural. Flyfishing is the same as spin-casting- cast right, reel left. Jerry Goldsmith casts right reels right, so that should tell you how strange that practice is. You need to practice reeling in under tension and without tension. Practice on a spin-caster, too. Also, remember this too. You 'play' a fish with the rod, not the reel. The reel's job is to store line and to feed it out. Feeding it out required some resistance to prevent backlash, or an actual HD Drag to hold a big fish from running off, and thus not having to use your hand to palm the spool. Small fish can be played with loose line, not even using the reel. So how do you do using your left hand to handle slack line, also? Also, when you cast, you are hauling with your left hand, or double-hauling. So the left hand and arm are busy while the right has the job of casting and not tiring out. Take it from me as I invented casting in the first place. DonO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
George, We do what works for us. I started out in 1945 with bamboo and a cheap reel. I had no instruction so I was never thought how to do it. I just found it natural to cast with my right hand and reel with my left. . I still do it that way.Switching the rod was not comfortable to me. I very seldom use the reel with a Fish On. I feel I have more control with the line going through my left hand. If the fish takes all the slack line I have in front of me and gets on the reel, that is another story.It has happened a few times with big fish. Again I say, we do what works best for us, for me it is rod in right hand and reel with left hand. Oh yes, I can cast with my left hand, then I have to switch.. Tony --- On Fri, 11/20/09, George E Vincent k...@verizon.net wrote: From: George E Vincent k...@verizon.net Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 11:21 AM Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots
How'd you know about my Cajun roots? Guess things just leak out. My great grandfather was Justin Reneaux. My great great uncle was Gen. Albert Reneaux. He was one of the few survivors of the battle of the Little Bighorn and is credited with saving what was left of the 7th Cavalry from destruction at Little Big Horn. He is buried in the Little Bighorn National Cemetery. My Dad's first name was Ruiax, pronounced Ruah. Can't get more Cajun than that. That pretty much explains why I love all Cajun food, with Crawfish Etouffe being my favorite dish. BTW, I wonder how many on our list have pinched the tails and sucked the heads of Crawfish. :-P JD Don Ordes wrote: JimmyD, Oh yeah, get us all going and then post that you like it the old way anyway, and can't change. You must be a Texan with Cajun roots! I guess since you been reeling for 300 years that way, it is sorta' ingrained. What you COULD do is get an electric fly reel, battery powered (just stack them in the grip). A variable frequency drive, programmable chip, difital readout, gps, digital scale, lazer tape-measure, voice recorder so you can fib, catch-camera... Buggs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Jimmy, Next time on the stream, strip with your left hand and let the line lay on the water, try controlling the line through your left hand and stay off the reel. See if that works for you. That is what I do. Actually I slip the line between my index finger and the grip. The drag is controlled there and the left hand feeds the line. This may not be the right way of doing it but it works well for me. Tony --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com, Fly Fishing World flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com, Hill Coountry Fly Fishers hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 11:09 AM I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Show tying and sales, and 'bennies' -is it worth it?
Sorry, My reply was to be off list. I still goof. Tony --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales, and 'bennies' -is it worth it? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:28 AM --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales, and 'bennies' -is it worth it? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:35 PM Tying shows, like Tony says, are different in how they handle tiers and vendors and selling. Here's my short history: I've been tying at Casper shows since the early 80's, so expenses were no big deal, and I could sell to my heart's content. The 1st out-of-state show I was invited to tie at was the Internat. Sportsman's Expo in Denver in 1995, by Pete Parker. One $$ 'bennie' at that show was a nice personalized ExOfficio Fishing shirt, and the ISE logo on it was a calling card at shows that one had 'arrived' at celebrity status. It was explained to me that tying in the video theater there was a status symbol in the front range arena, and wearing the shirt was your 'badge'. The second benny was my free private tying table, where I could sell anything I wanted (sold lots of flies and took orders). Led to another benny: Ed Rice, the owner, saw my flies at the table and invited me to tie at the San Mateo Show a month later- all expenses paid, plus a free booth (not table) for me to tie and sell, and Cheryl to assist me. I earned it with five 12-hour days on the job. Sold tons of Fantasy Flies and took a lot of orders and met a lot of folks. Pete told me that was the only time he had ever seen Ed pick up tier expenses for any show. Another neat benny for the Denver Show is that I've been featured twice in the Denver Post Sports section at ISE time. Great publicity for my Fantasy Flies. The next show I was invited to was the next year FFF conclave at the Outlaw Inn in Kalispel, MT. Assistance - block of cheaper rooms and lunch tickets. Sold lots of flies there too. And met a ton of real celebrities, one of whom was Lefty. After that, the Green River Fly Swap had me tie at their show for 7 years (after which they lost their city funding), paying an appearance fee ($$), mileage, and picking up the room. Also got a free double booth as the main co-attraction along with (different years) Jack Dennis, Mike Lawson, Gary Lafontaine. Got to sell boucou flies. Got free concession food and drinks, coffee, etc. Plus the red-carpet treatment. Have tied at the Denver ISE every year since. Get a new shirt each year and free entrance for me and Cheryl. Last year they gave Cheryl an honorary shirt just for being stuck with Buggs. So what's that- about 14 ISE shirts now? LOL Different shows come with different bennies. Chuck gave me me the front door booth for the first year, and then a double tying table each year after that. He usually gets good room deals, and Cheryl gets free entry. I like tying for Chuck as he realizes how important the tiers are to his show. He has a special low price for his show shirts. I have about twenty fly-show fishing shirts now, way too many to wear. The West Denver TU years ago (2001+/-) gave me the celebrity booth with Tom Whiting and paid expenses for me to tie until the locals got upset, and so I quit that show- too much politics. Made a lot of good friends there, tho. I've tied across the country from Florida to Cal. to New Orleans to New Jersey to Holland - dozens and dozens of shows of all kinds in between. It's all been good- no complaints really- just burned out. It's always a decision made freely to tie or not to tie. The show I'll never forget was Holland, and the hospitality and generosity and comradery and... If I accepted every show invitation and was fabulously wealthy like Mark R., I'd be doing a show every weekend too, and fishing my way in between. Wait... Cheryl just said No way, Hose' . So I've decided now to stay at home, tie, and drink beer with Buggs and Dr. D, and make DVDs. Burp! DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales I stand corrected on Shows and Conclaves. To me they are all shows., I have been tying at shows since 1989, Conclaves 1994. Doing demo tying since 1987. Have tied on and off from 1945 to 1988. Tony --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 5:50 PM
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
That's really what I do Tony. I rarely reel a fish in, unless it's a big one and I have to regain line that I've lost. Guess I just didn't explain myself correctly. JIMMY Anthony Spezio wrote: Jimmy, Next time on the stream, strip with your left hand and let the line lay on the water, try controlling the line through your left hand and stay off the reel. See if that works for you. That is what I do. Actually I slip the line between my index finger and the grip. The drag is controlled there and the left hand feeds the line. This may not be the right way of doing it but it works well for me. Tony -- -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots
Yeah, but I was raised in New Orleans, so I pinch the heads flat as I drag the eyeballs out backwards with the juice. The antennas have to wiggle. LOL My mom was Bergeron/Hotard, Cajun as it gets- from Houma, La- heart of Cajun Country. Oh. BYW, I cook up a mean red or roux Crawfish Etoufee. plus gumbo, plus red-beans and rice, and real roast beef po-boys (debris style). Fried seafood, whoo-boy, I guarontee-u. LOL, So we're BROTHERS after all !!! DonEaux - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: [VFB] Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots How'd you know about my Cajun roots? Guess things just leak out. My great grandfather was Justin Reneaux. My great great uncle was Gen. Albert Reneaux. He was one of the few survivors of the battle of the Little Bighorn and is credited with saving what was left of the 7th Cavalry from destruction at Little Big Horn. He is buried in the Little Bighorn National Cemetery. My Dad's first name was Ruiax, pronounced Ruah. Can't get more Cajun than that. That pretty much explains why I love all Cajun food, with Crawfish Etouffe being my favorite dish. BTW, I wonder how many on our list have pinched the tails and sucked the heads of Crawfish. :-P JD Don Ordes wrote: JimmyD, Oh yeah, get us all going and then post that you like it the old way anyway, and can't change. You must be a Texan with Cajun roots! I guess since you been reeling for 300 years that way, it is sorta' ingrained. What you COULD do is get an electric fly reel, battery powered (just stack them in the grip). A variable frequency drive, programmable chip, difital readout, gps, digital scale, lazer tape-measure, voice recorder so you can fib, catch-camera... Buggs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: tube fly sites
Tubies G, I've read an interesting concept about tube flies some years ago in the German FF mag (Yes, we have one). the idea was to ty just the components of the flies on rather small/short tubes a wing, a body, a tail section, a rear body, a front body, a upper wing,... and later on streamside combine them to the flies. Take the tail, the body and the wing, side them on the tipped (Well, reverse sequence), and start fishing. Gives you a lot of options to react on weather, and water conditions. Should work for salmon and for streamer as well. And, when the body was chewed up, you can salvage the wing - at least. What do you think about this concept? Rene iain short wrote: http://www.eumertube.com/products.php http://www.letsflyfish.com/tubeflies.htm http://www.canadiantubeflies.com/tube-flies.html Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394593/direct/01/%20 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I had a problem with my Hughesnet. Is this coming through?? Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: test
Well, it came through to ME, so I guess I'm back up and running. Thanks anyway, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: [VFB] test I had a problem with my Hughesnet. Is this coming through?? Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: test
Loud and clear - Original Message - From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: [VFB] test I had a problem with my Hughesnet. Is this coming through?? Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
I started out that way just because I got used to using the left for line stripping and hauling, leaving the right hand to hold the rod. From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; Fly Fishing World flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 11:09:01 AM Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Get rid of the mental block Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:09 AM Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
When I first started fly fishing that is the way I did it. I have since seen the light I am glad that I did because when I was fishing in Alaska this past Sept. I had so many big strong fish on that trying to switch hands would have been a reel (pun intended) trying experience. I brought two different reels there and I used a Hardy for several days and my son in law used the Billy Pate. Now that is a reel. I eventually got to use the Billy Pate and what a difference. I had my fingers bloddied several times from the Hardy, but never from the Billy pate. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: George E Vincent To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent -- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
Don O: off your meds again, are we? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies why not organise a tube fly swap Iain The 'Totally Tubular' swap, man. Kewl man, gnarley, surf's up- hang ten. I'll do a surfboard fly for fishing the tubes, dude. Buggs Not that kind of tube, Buggs... - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies I tie tubes from 3/8 inch to 2-1/2 inch. I think i did a poor explanation of the blind eye hook. The blind eye hooks have tapered shanks, so you just push the hook up the shank till it jams. If you want to rotate the fly to access the other side just twist tube round the shank. To fish the fly slip the tube fly onto the leader, tie the single or double or treble hook of your choice to the tip of your leader, fly slides down leader till it reaches the hook. to keep the hook in line with the tube slip a piece of neoprene tube onto the bottom of the tube, pull the hook into it, hook and fly stay in line. why not organise a tube fly swap iain From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:48:22 -0700 Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain -- Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain -- New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
I actually still have my dads old Penn reels, that we used on the beach in New Jersey. He took some bambo sanded them down and used electrical tape for the handles. Used hose clamps to hold the reel and used tape for the guides. We had 8' 10' and 12' rods. Don't know what ever happened to them. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: daymarkmarine1 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Maybe as a result of spinning tackle. I recall in the 50's that Ocean City spinners were reeled with the left hand, the same as most are reeled today. The Penn and Ocean City conventional reels were reeled with the right hand, as they are today. - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Thanks George. ÊI vaguely remember Lefty saying that. If it's good enough for Lefty, it's good enough for me.Ê So I'll just keep on doing it my way. Ê Thanks for your input George E Vincent wrote: Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. Ê BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. Ê I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. Ê George Vincent No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots
Don O and Jimmy D: I think that kind of cooking should be done at the Sowbug this coming March. Jimmy, if you are up to it I will drive from Texas to Arkansas? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots Yeah, but I was raised in New Orleans, so I pinch the heads flat as I drag the eyeballs out backwards with the juice. The antennas have to wiggle. LOL My mom was Bergeron/Hotard, Cajun as it gets- from Houma, La- heart of Cajun Country. Oh. BYW, I cook up a mean red or roux Crawfish Etoufee. plus gumbo, plus red-beans and rice, and real roast beef po-boys (debris style). Fried seafood, whoo-boy, I guarontee-u. LOL, So we're BROTHERS after all !!! DonEaux - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: [VFB] Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots How'd you know about my Cajun roots? Guess things just leak out. My great grandfather was Justin Reneaux. My great great uncle was Gen. Albert Reneaux. He was one of the few survivors of the battle of the Little Bighorn and is credited with saving what was left of the 7th Cavalry from destruction at Little Big Horn. He is buried in the Little Bighorn National Cemetery. My Dad's first name was Ruiax, pronounced Ruah. Can't get more Cajun than that. That pretty much explains why I love all Cajun food, with Crawfish Etouffe being my favorite dish. BTW, I wonder how many on our list have pinched the tails and sucked the heads of Crawfish. :-P JD Don Ordes wrote: JimmyD, Oh yeah, get us all going and then post that you like it the old way anyway, and can't change. You must be a Texan with Cajun roots! I guess since you been reeling for 300 years that way, it is sorta' ingrained. What you COULD do is get an electric fly reel, battery powered (just stack them in the grip). A variable frequency drive, programmable chip, difital readout, gps, digital scale, lazer tape-measure, voice recorder so you can fib, catch-camera... Buggs No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
AW: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
I do not think we should make a rule who has to reel left or right – we older (experienced?) reel with our dominant hand and the youngsters do it (logical) the logic way … Thomas http://www.royalcoachman.net alaska info Thomas R. Eckert mailto:royalcoach...@bluewin.ch royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 _ Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von George E Vincent Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2009 18:22 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Types of Marabou- bird and feather articles?
Hi all: Looking at Hatches magazine, I began to think about all the types of marabou and which birds they come from. Any articles discussing the 'puff types'(like big CDC puffs), blood feathers (the really long stuff used to wrap bodies of baitfish), etc?? Thanks, Reuven --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
iain: Either I am missing something or I just can't get the tapered shank . What holds the tube and tapered shank to the tippet. Where do you tie these things together? I believe that a tapered shank has no eye. Is that correct? You have to lash monofilament to the shank, correct? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies I tie tubes from 3/8 inch to 2-1/2 inch. I think i did a poor explanation of the blind eye hook. The blind eye hooks have tapered shanks, so you just push the hook up the shank till it jams. If you want to rotate the fly to access the other side just twist tube round the shank. To fish the fly slip the tube fly onto the leader, tie the single or double or treble hook of your choice to the tip of your leader, fly slides down leader till it reaches the hook. to keep the hook in line with the tube slip a piece of neoprene tube onto the bottom of the tube, pull the hook into it, hook and fly stay in line. why not organise a tube fly swap iain -- From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:48:22 -0700 Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. -- From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 -- View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] DonO's DVD
Does anyone have the snail mail addy for DonO? I can't find it. Thanks BobH --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
Alan, the tapered shank is for tying only. To fish, the eye of the hook snugs up against the back of the tube. Don - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies iain: Either I am missing something or I just can't get the tapered shank . What holds the tube and tapered shank to the tippet. Where do you tie these things together? I believe that a tapered shank has no eye. Is that correct? You have to lash monofilament to the shank, correct? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies I tie tubes from 3/8 inch to 2-1/2 inch. I think i did a poor explanation of the blind eye hook. The blind eye hooks have tapered shanks, so you just push the hook up the shank till it jams. If you want to rotate the fly to access the other side just twist tube round the shank. To fish the fly slip the tube fly onto the leader, tie the single or double or treble hook of your choice to the tip of your leader, fly slides down leader till it reaches the hook. to keep the hook in line with the tube slip a piece of neoprene tube onto the bottom of the tube, pull the hook into it, hook and fly stay in line. why not organise a tube fly swap iain From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:48:22 -0700 Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain -- Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain -- New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are
[VFB] Tubes part 1
Alan and others This is my set up. The nylon leader material is tied directly to the hook and around the hook shank several turns. When pulled tight, it butts up against the hook eye and hangs straight. Only the eye of the hook is placed into the clear tubing which is also attached to the end of the tube. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- attachment: Tubes 003.jpg
[VFB] Tubes Part 2
These are some home made tubes made with brass or copper tubing from a model shop and suitable sized plastic tubing insert. I just heat the ends of the plastic insert with a needle in place to keep the tube open. Also shown is a Eumer tube fly tool for holding the tube and to stop it rolling over when applying the dressing. The thin traingular section is inserted in a standard vise. (I use a Regal Inex.) Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- attachment: Tubes.jpg
[VFB] unsubscribe
Hello,I would like to unsubscribe from this group please help --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: unsubscribe
murphdawg98 Hello! Read the bottom of each VFB post and follow the directions May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:48:41 -0600 From: murphdaw...@verizon.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] unsubscribe Hello, I would like to unsubscribe from this group please help --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: unsubscribe
I have tried that several times I keep getting "message undeliverable" I don't know if the address is correctOn Nov 20, 2009, jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com wrote: murphdawg98 Hello! Read the bottom of each VFB post and follow the directionsMay your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:48:41 -0600From: murphdaw...@verizon.netTo: vfb-mail@googlegroups.comSubject: [VFB] unsubscribe Hello,I would like to unsubscribe from this group please help --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: unsubscribe
Have you tried the google group? groups.google.com Search for VFB Go to mail and this should let you unsubscribe. Beyound that, do as I do, get a 17 yr old computer geek to help you. May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:59 -0600 From: murphdaw...@verizon.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: unsubscribe I have tried that several times I keep getting message undeliverable I don't know if the address is correct On Nov 20, 2009, jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com wrote: murphdawg98 Hello! Read the bottom of each VFB post and follow the directions May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:48:41 -0600 From: murphdaw...@verizon.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] unsubscribe Hello, I would like to unsubscribe from this group please help --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots
I was born raised on the South Side of Chicago. I LOVE Cajun food. From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Di Somma Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:25 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots Don O and Jimmy D: I think that kind of cooking should be done at the Sowbug this coming March. Jimmy, if you are up to it I will drive from Texas to Arkansas? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Don Ordes mailto:f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots Yeah, but I was raised in New Orleans, so I pinch the heads flat as I drag the eyeballs out backwards with the juice. The antennas have to wiggle. LOL My mom was Bergeron/Hotard, Cajun as it gets- from Houma, La- heart of Cajun Country. Oh. BYW, I cook up a mean red or roux Crawfish Etoufee. plus gumbo, plus red-beans and rice, and real roast beef po-boys (debris style). Fried seafood, whoo-boy, I guarontee-u. LOL, So we're BROTHERS after all !!! DonEaux - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore mailto:ray...@earthlink.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: [VFB] Was reeling left-handed, now Cajun roots How'd you know about my Cajun roots? Guess things just leak out. My great grandfather was Justin Reneaux. My great great uncle was Gen. Albert Reneaux. He was one of the few survivors of the battle of the Little Bighorn and is credited with saving what was left of the 7th Cavalry from destruction at Little Big Horn. He is buried in the Little Bighorn National Cemetery. My Dad's first name was Ruiax, pronounced Ruah. Can't get more Cajun than that. That pretty much explains why I love all Cajun food, with Crawfish Etouffe being my favorite dish. BTW, I wonder how many on our list have pinched the tails and sucked the heads of Crawfish. :-P JD Don Ordes wrote: JimmyD, Oh yeah, get us all going and then post that you like it the old way anyway, and can't change. You must be a Texan with Cajun roots! I guess since you been reeling for 300 years that way, it is sorta' ingrained. What you COULD do is get an electric fly reel, battery powered (just stack them in the grip). A variable frequency drive, programmable chip, difital readout, gps, digital scale, lazer tape-measure, voice recorder so you can fib, catch-camera... Buggs BR _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Been a while since I was called a “youngster”J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Eckert Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:45 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed I do not think we should make a rule who has to reel left or right – we older (experienced?) reel with our dominant hand and the youngsters do it (logical) the logic way … Thomas http://www.royalcoachman.net alaska info Thomas R. Eckert mailto:royalcoach...@bluewin.ch royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 _ Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von George E Vincent Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2009 18:22 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tying tube flies
What holds the tube to the tippet? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan, the tapered shank is for tying only. To fish, the eye of the hook snugs up against the back of the tube. Don - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies iain: Either I am missing something or I just can't get the tapered shank . What holds the tube and tapered shank to the tippet. Where do you tie these things together? I believe that a tapered shank has no eye. Is that correct? You have to lash monofilament to the shank, correct? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies I tie tubes from 3/8 inch to 2-1/2 inch. I think i did a poor explanation of the blind eye hook. The blind eye hooks have tapered shanks, so you just push the hook up the shank till it jams. If you want to rotate the fly to access the other side just twist tube round the shank. To fish the fly slip the tube fly onto the leader, tie the single or double or treble hook of your choice to the tip of your leader, fly slides down leader till it reaches the hook. to keep the hook in line with the tube slip a piece of neoprene tube onto the bottom of the tube, pull the hook into it, hook and fly stay in line. why not organise a tube fly swap iain -- From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:48:22 -0700 Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. -- From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00
[VFB] Re: unsubscribe
Send an email to the address below, Chuck vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - From: murphdaw...@verizon.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: [VFB] unsubscribe Hello, I would like to unsubscribe from this group please help --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tubes part 3
Neville: This mis the reason that this list is soo valuable. All this info in just a few minute could take us newbies a long time to learn. Those are some awsome looking flies BTW. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: [VFB] Tubes part 3 In photo 001 the hooks are just snugged into the vinyl tube and are not actually attached per se. That is done are the river. Don't forget to thread the tube onto the leader before tying on the hook! In photo 002 the dressed tubes are on the right and the hooks and a section of flixible tubing (to be cut to size) that is used to join the hook to the tube are on the left Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: DonO's DVD
Don Ordes Fantasy Fly Co. 1321 N. Buck Creek Rd. Casper WY 82604 Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: haerb...@comcast.net To: VFB Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:48 PM Subject: [VFB] DonO's DVD Does anyone have the snail mail addy for DonO? I can't find it. Thanks BobH -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
I find doing it tat way is easire for me too. Tony --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:57 PM That's really what I do Tony. I rarely reel a fish in, unless it's a big one and I have to regain line that I've lost. Guess I just didn't explain myself correctly. JIMMY Anthony Spezio wrote: Jimmy, Next time on the stream, strip with your left hand and let the line lay on the water, try controlling the line through your left hand and stay off the reel. See if that works for you. That is what I do. Actually I slip the line between my index finger and the grip. The drag is controlled there and the left hand feeds the line. This may not be the right way of doing it but it works well for me. Tony -- -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Pre formed foam popper heads???
Can somebody tell me where to get the best deal on pre formed foam popper heads??? I have been building about 15-20 of them this week out of balsa wood, and they are VERY time consuming (at least they are to me). I think I'm gonna try the pre formed (and maybe pre colored) foam heads, but need to know where the best deal is on them. I think I'll try ebay, but was windier if anybody knew a good supplier. Thanks, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
I am right handed and I cast with my right hand and reel in with my left. To me, casting and holding the rod with my dominant hard/arm is more important than reeling-in. That is why all my Hardy Perfects are the more expensive and difficult to obtain left hand wind models, as are my all spinning reels and baitcast reels. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: November 20, 2009 7:00 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed I find doing it tat way is easire for me too. Tony --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:57 PM That's really what I do Tony. I rarely reel a fish in, unless it's a big one and I have to regain line that I've lost. Guess I just didn't explain myself correctly. JIMMY Anthony Spezio wrote: Jimmy, Next time on the stream, strip with your left hand and let the line lay on the water, try controlling the line through your left hand and stay off the reel. See if that works for you. That is what I do. Actually I slip the line between my index finger and the grip. The drag is controlled there and the left hand feeds the line. This may not be the right way of doing it but it works well for me. Tony -- -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Pre formed foam popper heads???
Chuck: go to the web site in my signature. I have three different sizes of them. Some came with hooks. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: [VFB] Pre formed foam popper heads??? Can somebody tell me where to get the best deal on pre formed foam popper heads??? I have been building about 15-20 of them this week out of balsa wood, and they are VERY time consuming (at least they are to me). I think I'm gonna try the pre formed (and maybe pre colored) foam heads, but need to know where the best deal is on them. I think I'll try ebay, but was windier if anybody knew a good supplier. Thanks, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
I should of used my Spell Check. Tony --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:10 PM I am right handed and I cast with my right hand and reel in with my left. To me, casting and holding the rod with my dominant hard/arm is more important than reeling-in. That is why all my Hardy Perfects are the more expensive and difficult to obtain left hand wind models, as are my all spinning reels and baitcast reels. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: November 20, 2009 7:00 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed I find doing it tat way is easire for me too. Tony --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:57 PM That's really what I do Tony. I rarely reel a fish in, unless it's a big one and I have to regain line that I've lost. Guess I just didn't explain myself correctly. JIMMY Anthony Spezio wrote: Jimmy, Next time on the stream, strip with your left hand and let the line lay on the water, try controlling the line through your left hand and stay off the reel. See if that works for you. That is what I do. Actually I slip the line between my index finger and the grip. The drag is controlled there and the left hand feeds the line. This may not be the right way of doing it but it works well for me. Tony -- -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Fellow Anglers Do what feels the best for you. Reel left, reel right, doesn't make any difference. If you have to think about how to reel when you have a fish on you are missing the reasons for angling. Just go and enjoy the great outdoors; the land, trees, air , sky, water and the fish. Then share your experiences with your angling fellowship. Some baseball players bat left some bat right; if you are hitting the ball the only good advise you get is what time the game starts. The trouble with fly anglers is they try to make everything to damned complicated. Regards Mel Hocken - Original Message - From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Been a while since I was called a “youngster”J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Eckert Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:45 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed I do not think we should make a rule who has to reel left or right – we older (experienced?) reel with our dominant hand and the youngsters do it (logical) the logic way … Thomas alaska info Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 -- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von George E Vincent Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2009 18:22 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent -- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] for Alan ... Tying tube flies
Alan LOL... OK trying again you dont fish with the blind eye hook, you place the blind eye hook in the vice to mount the tube while you tie the fly instead of buying one of those ekpensive fancy tube fly vices, you then take the fly to the river of your choice to go fishing with it and slip the tube onto the line leader, tie a hook to the end of the leader and pull the fly back against the hook iain From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:23:39 -0700 iain: Either I am missing something or I just can't get the tapered shank . What holds the tube and tapered shank to the tippet. Where do you tie these things together? I believe that a tapered shank has no eye. Is that correct? You have to lash monofilament to the shank, correct? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies I tie tubes from 3/8 inch to 2-1/2 inch. I think i did a poor explanation of the blind eye hook. The blind eye hooks have tapered shanks, so you just push the hook up the shank till it jams. If you want to rotate the fly to access the other side just twist tube round the shank. To fish the fly slip the tube fly onto the leader, tie the single or double or treble hook of your choice to the tip of your leader, fly slides down leader till it reaches the hook. to keep the hook in line with the tube slip a piece of neoprene tube onto the bottom of the tube, pull the hook into it, hook and fly stay in line. why not organise a tube fly swap iain From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:48:22 -0700 Thanks iain, but I dont have any of that type of hook and I dont plan on tying any salmon flies. Do you use that type of hook so it slips into the tube easier. Seems like it would be difficult to change flies while out fishing unless you lash the tippet to many hooks at home and use a loop to loop to connect them after you attach a tube. Or am I way out in left field? I am more into lake fishing for trout and large and small mouthed bass and crappie. I sure do appreciate the advise on the tubes. Jeff and I are interested in this type of tying and will get more into it as the year progresses. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: iain short To: VFB-new Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:39 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Alan If the tubes are plastic or plastic lined, just push tube onto the tapered shank of a blind eyed salmon hook. ist all ive ever used iain Jeff: Have you gotten the tube holder that you put in the jaws of your vise? If so, where did you get it. You can reply off list. I am also looking into tube flies. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? Iain, thanks for that link last week. I have been doing extensive research and have a bunch of supplies ordered. I am wanting to develop some tube applications for bass. This is what I want to tie for Sowbug this year. Something maybe new to folks. From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:59:44 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tying tube flies Hi JC look at the following link http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/tube-flies/ if you have specific questions email me at iainsh...@hotmail.com iain New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotmail Find out how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00 _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this
[VFB] Alan - Tube video
Alan the tapered pin in this clip is used the same as the tapered blind eye hook it also shows how you make the plastic liner for the metal tube http://www.eumertube.com/ABCsOfConetubes.php iain _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Alan Tube fly videos
go to this site for basic tube fly vids http://www.eumertube.com/tyinginstructions.php click the pictures next page - click the pictures iain _ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] simple tube holder
Photo 004 shows a large salmon hook with the loop eye removed; Photo 005 shows a tube jammed on the shank of the eye-less hook ready to be dressed. There is sufficient friction to prevent the tube from rolling. As Iain pointed out, a blind eye salmon hook would be better still as the shank has a taper to it. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- attachment: Tubes 004.jpgattachment: Tubes 005.jpg
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed- big fish journal- light reading
Mel wrote: If you have to think about how to reel when you have a fish on you are missing the reasons for angling. This is true. The style of fishing and the target fish and how you will fish it has to be settled as you set up your rod. How you reel, righty or lefty, has to be settled and practiced (comfortable) even before that. For me, I hear all of the discussions in a different way. Some people catch a fish. That is true most of the time. I catch trout, too. But some fisherman (on some trips- like me) have to fight a fish, and then the story changes. Whether you use a direct drive or an indirect drive reel is settled when you purchase the new reel while considering the target fish and your busted and bloody reel-hand knuckles from the last trip (salmon, dorado, billfish, stripers, tuna, etc- big gamefish- over 40#). Reeling in a trout or panfish in is not like reeling in a big gamefish. Everything is different with big gamefish. One mistake and the fish is history, and maybe with your expensive gear to boot. You must re-think your gear, your strategy, yourself. Everything will be challenged to the maxumum. Any weakness equals a lost fish, lost gear, and maybe an ended trip. I need to make this clear to anyone targeting the big fish with a fly rod. You shouldn't reel the fish in. You can reel in slack line- off the deck or a belly in the line. You can reel in line below the drag setting after the pump, which is pretty low because of the low tippet strength used compared to the fish. Other than that, it's pretty much a stale-mate on the reel. Drop your left arm and rest it- you'll need it refreshed real soon. Pump the rod, then reel in as you drop the rod. Then, if he comes at you, reel in like the dickens. The most dangerous time is while casting and hooking the fish, and there is slack line from the cast and from stripping. Once you hook the fish, forget him for a second and mind your slack line. He's taking off at 50mph and isn't stopping for anything being caught up by the line- toes, fingers, clothes, gear. Use a line-set to hook the fish (#1) and then just guide the line out while guiding the slack until it's on the reel. Hurdle #2 over if you can get him on the reel. Now you can pay attention to the fish as he runs for the horizon. Now you can tension the drag by the angle of the rod to the horizon. The lower it is, the more pressure you are putting on the fish. You have time here, 400 to 700 yards of backing on your reel. Stop the run or give chase. By the way, this all has to happen with the rod in the casting hand. Then, when the fish is not running out line against the drag, you pump the rod, always keeping it as low as possible. Lift the rod high under pressure and it may explode. Keep it low to the horizon. As you pump the rod, you'll feel if he comes in with the pump. If not, stop pumping and rest a little, keeping pressure on the fish to wear him down. With fish that go airborne, like sails and dorado, different drag and rod tactics are needed. I prefer a bent rod with backed off drag. Others point the rod at the fish. I've never lost a big fish, other than to sharks. The fighting mate to your rod is the drag, not the reel handle. The battle is won or lost on rod and drag control. Reeling in is just a method of keeping slack line off the deck or getting big bellies of slack out of the water as the fish changes directions. Most of the battle will be in the dacron backing, which will cut you to the bone in an instant, so again you want to keep the fight on the reel from hook-set slack-up to landing. I reset the drag 20 or 30 times or more during a fight, depending on what the fish is doing and what I intend to do. Drag and rod angle are the keys. Once you're into the fight, you can give your right arm a break by swapping it to the left hand, best done suring stale-mate sessions. A fighting glove helps your rod-hand not to wear out. After the fish is landed, you will drink your water with your left hand, as you can barely hold the right hand up. What is challenging is to have the next fish come in and cast to it with a wore-out arm. Then the fight starts with no gas in the tank. Fun! I've caught five 40# + dorado, one hour each to land, back-to-back, no rest. (My exercise- hedge-clipping and pruning with a 20# weight attached to the pruners halfway out, hanging from a rope.) REELS: Direct drive or indirect drive. I have an direct drive Able 14 wt and an indirect drive Billy Pate 12wt. Neither is best- each has it's advantage. The direct drive has better fish control, and the indirect drive won't bust up your knuckles. Take your pick. I like my Billy Pate because the drag is on the same side as the handle and I can just play the fish with the drag. With the Able, I can palm the reel on a low drag setting for some extra drag control, then tighten up when I can pump him in.
