Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos
there is no conclusive answer to this question, which is great news for lawyers for one thing, this can cut across and into international laws for another, just try to define words like legal, use, videos and mainstream in this context. i think you will find that difficult. some artists have control, but many do not some mainstream companies are open to this, some are not I know of a rather small company that recent obtained the rights to 1000's of mainstream releases for use in podcasts. No cost. Why? Because they hope to sell the songs to people who listen to the podcasts. Imagine that. A ray of hope. Does that mean you can use those songs too? Not necessarily (probably not). So maybe a thin ray of hope. Ryanne recently shared these sources: examples of use of cc licensed music! http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2005/07/path.html http://www.noservicecharge.com/videoblog/2005/08/obvious.html pod safe music network http://music.podshow.com/ Trying to identify companies that allow use of music can be challenging. Be aware of Erin's hard won experiences with Freeplay: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/18579 markus Khoo, Joan wrote: Hi Guys, I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is legal to use mainstream music in videos. And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we identify the companies that allow us to use their music in their videos? Joan Yahoo! Groups Links . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
Isn't it legal to use like a ten second snippet of copyrighted music under the Fair Use Clause of the law? Eric http://strollingbones.blogspot.com http://prvideoblogging.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Videospider
Have you seen videospider? http://www.videospider.it/ I wrote up a blog post about them. Sunday, November 20, 2005 I've requested that videospider remove my content I just found Videospider yesterday. They are charing people to view my Creative Commons licensed videos that say NO COMMERCIAL USE. I'd say that charging for viewing is commerical use. http://tinyurl.com/7nnzu http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/11/ive-requested-that- videospider-remove.html My post details my research into them including this from their site: Q: Why are you charging people for videos I've posted to USENET for free distribution? A: We're not charging people for your videos. Videospider customers are paying for our service that formats and indexes USENET binary posts to make them easier to browse and view. My emails to them were rejected. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it here: http://blip.tv/file/4915 We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] GUBA
GUBA is another site that charges you to watch Pictures and Videos from Usenet, All for only $14.95 / mo.. http://www.guba.com/ Not cool. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: GUBA
There are many different sites on the internet that offer a web interface to binary newsgroup (usenet) posts. However, most of the files on usenet have nothing to do with videoblogging, they are largely copyrighted material, eg films and tv shows, that should not be redistributed on the internet at all. For whatever reasons, the RIAA friends havent focussed on newsgroups much yet, and they dont get mentioned by the mainstream media hardly ever, dunno if the strategy is to pretend they dont exist or what. Anyway your blog isnt on usenet. Videospider is lying in its FAQ about where its material comes from. Clearly much of it is from usenet, but they also appear to be leeching content direct from peoples websites, which is what seems to have happened in the case of your videoblog. Therefore it will be a wild goosechase to think that every usenet service out there is leeching your content, they arent. Its just the videospider FAQ being misleading. Now if some individual did upload your video to usenet (which as of writing is not so), Im not sure what you could do about that. usenet/newsgroups are usually available for free (via newsreader software your ISP), so the person who stuck your stuff on usenet isnt violating CC non-commercial terms. Services that make usenet available via an easy web interface just consider themselves to be providing a service, and say that the actual content is beyond their control. One day the law will probably adress this anomoly, but Id not expect videoblogging to lead the charge as every day there are already $millions of pounds worth of MSM copyrighted content flying around newsgroups, and the USENET is very large and redistributed by many large companies (ISPs mostly). Likely the claim is that the original person who put the stuff onto Usenet is the violator, and it is they who action should be taken against, rather than usenet as a whole. In conclusion Id say that videospide is just a typical leech like we've talked about before, and that usenet is not currently a threat to videobloggers. If I had a videoblog that was only available via subscription for a fee, or I ran a porn website, Id probably monitor usenet as its the sort of thing that such material is likely to be illegally redistributed via. I would look at the headers of the relevant usenet posts to determine who did the uploading, and then consider them the offender, rather than the impossible task of chasing down every usenet provider. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GUBA is another site that charges you to watch Pictures and Videos from Usenet, All for only $14.95 / mo.. http://www.guba.com/ Not cool. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: GUBA
Steve has many good points. I used to monitor software piracy for the consumer software company I worked for. When our software got uploaded to the Usenet, that was clear and egregious abuse, but there wasn't much we could do about it. The usenet catalogs seed each other, so even if one provider moved promptly to respond to a complaint and take something down, it would already be on dozens of other servers. I have seen the MPAA move against Usenet posters, by demanding logs from their ISPs so that the offenders can be identified and threatened with lawsuits. I guess we could have done that, too, but it wasn't worth the effort and cost to us. For videobloggers, if you release under a CC license, the actual presence of your stuff on the Usenet, no matter how it got there, is not in violation of your rights. Services which provide easy access to it (and everything else on the Usenet) are in a gray area. I doubt it's worth your effort to complain about it. They have been dealing with much bigger fish than you for a long time, indeed have a lucrative business model built around it.-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] GUBA
from a technical perspective, i find it intriguing... pulling all the content out of that dark world of the net. usenet symbolizes the beginnings on the internet. but its true... most to all of the content has been illegally made available for illegal downloaders. dont see usenet and videoblogging clashing, though.On 11/21/05, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:GUBA is another site that charges you to watch Pictures and Videos from Usenet, All for only $14.95 / mo..http://www.guba.com/Not cool.--Steve--Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog- http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Videospider
your video was made available to me without paying, and they provided more info about your vlog here:http://www.videospider.it/video/info/16157 On 11/21/05, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen videospider?http://www.videospider.it/I wrote up a blog post about them.Sunday, November 20, 2005I've requested that videospider remove my content I just found Videospider yesterday. They are charing people to view myCreative Commons licensed videos that say NO COMMERCIAL USE.I'd say that charging for viewing is commerical use. http://tinyurl.com/7nnzuhttp://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/11/ive-requested-that-videospider-remove.htmlMy post details my research into them including this from their site: Q:Why are you charging people for videos I've posted to USENET for freedistribution?A:We're not charging people for your videos. Videospider customers arepaying for our service that formats and indexes USENET binary posts to make them easier to browse and view.My emails to them were rejected.--Steve--Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog- http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Videospider
i just had a look at that site steve, they also have some of my videos up there, but i can;t see where they are charging people to watch them? I was able to download them for free? am i missing something? be well d SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
im not totally sure but i think u need a mechanical license for sampling... and are allowed fewer than 7 notes if you are covering... something like that... check out BMI, ASCAP, Harry Fox, SESAC they'll ask u how many reproductions u plan to make. ur traffic would be an idea i guess... the conversation usually starts around 500 units... and a few dollars per... i dunno if that means they dont care for less than that? permission isn't implied... but u could probably bank on them not wasting their time if the circulation is low... thats all in the context of CD releases n stuff... how that translates to new media ... no idea generally speaking i have no idea what im talking aboutOn 11/21/05, strollingbones2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it legal to use like a ten second snippet of copyrighted music under the Fair Use Clause of the law? Eric http://strollingbones.blogspot.com http://prvideoblogging.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Thomas G HenryPhone: 845.22.88.555Skype: ThomasGHenryCommunity Mediahttp://ValleyVlog.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HVNewMedia/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos
Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music in friday's rocketboom, to great effect. The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it makes more sense to link to the source music (which I've been doing) or leave it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no one will notice). I seriousely don't know which is more effective. Any ideas/thoughts on the subject? Ronen cinemalog.netOn 11/21/05, Khoo, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is legal to use mainstream music in videos. And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we identify the companies that allow us to use their music in their videos? Joan YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos
If you 'cover' a song, then you can use the cover version -- which opens up a world of possibilites. (I'm noticing the rocketboom version seems a cover)On 11/21/05, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music in friday's rocketboom, to great effect. The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it makes more sense to link to the source music (which I've been doing) or leave it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no one will notice). I seriousely don't know which is more effective. Any ideas/thoughts on the subject? Ronen cinemalog.netOn 11/21/05, Khoo, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is legal to use mainstream music in videos. And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we identify the companies that allow us to use their music in their videos? Joan YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] big boys girls in the mix
check out: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051121/ap_en_mo/online_movies you can now watch your big picture epics on the teeny tiny iPod (low illumination) screen. www.cafesiena.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior
This is the funnest thread ever. Ronen YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] RE: Videospider
Their FAQ includes this: How much does it cost? Our current offers for Videospider credits are: 3 Credits for € 0,99 ($1.20) 10 Credits for € 3 ($3.62) 20 Credits for € 5 ($6.04) All prices include VAT where applicable. Not from Itay? Your credit card company will automatically exchange to your local currency. Credits are a simple and easy way to download the videos you like. One credit is for one download. You can purchase credits using your credit card via our secure online server. The credits you purchase will be automatically displayed at the top of the page and under the my account section after you log in. NOW -- This is where it sounds fishy to me. Steve quoted the other part of the FAQ where they said that they only charged people for the indexing service. The next line of that section says, Anybody can still find your videos on their own USENET server, but they won't have the advanced, easy-to-use interface that we provide. So, they claim that they are charging people for the convenience of the interface and indexing, but people are charged BY THE DOWNLOAD. This is shaky ground from my point of view. Schizophrenic, really. If it was the SERVICE people were subscribing to, it makes more sense to do monthly subscriptions to the SERVICE. In essence, they are saying they are the equivalent of a cable TV provider but charging their customers with a pay per view model. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just had a look at that site steve, they also have some of my videos up there, but i can;t see where they are charging people to watch them? I was able to download them for free? am i missing something? be well d Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Videospider
Some of the videos have a watch now button that allows you to watch the video in a flash player online. Other videos allow you to download them. They also have a page saying that you have to pay for downloads. Maybe it's all free in the Beta period. Still waiting to hear back from them. On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:00 AM, duncan speakman wrote: i just had a look at that site steve, they also have some of my videos up there, but i can;t see where they are charging people to watch them? I was able to download them for free? am i missing something? be well d SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives. http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from. It promotes independent artists AND they get notified when you play their music. I've gotten some great feedback from band members and they love it when we can promote their music. On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Ronen wrote: It's safer to use music you have permissions to. But Usually people let it slide. Kevin Smith's vlog uses a ton of copyrighted music, and do many other people's, and no one's raising any eyebrows. Just don't try to sell it, or put the vlog in iTunes' listings. The answer is basically No, but [for the time being] you can get away with it. Some people I know are trying to work out an extended solution to this which would crack open the archives for use. More as it develops. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
ASCAP/BMI/et al covers songwriting royalties. No practical licensing exists for downloads or derivative uses of the mechanical performances. 'Getting away with it' and Fair Use: be careful. The landscape is too hot and too lawsuit happy. Talk with a good lawyer if you want to push the limits. Can you challenge a Fair Use lawsuit if EFF doesn't step up? I used to be much more casual about using music until I worked on the deal with Warner Bros/Reprise for my podcast. From that point on, I made a point to stop (that sorta happens when you know a lot of Hollywood types are watching/listening). Dig through CC music, Opsound, Association of Music Podcasting and others. Everyday Films has permission from the Parkdale Hookers. My podcast and Backstaging.com uses music from cjacksmusic.com, a CC artist, who has the license for me to be able to use his stuff. And it's so good, I want to hire him for some work. We can build our own economies with the indie movement, while fighting the battle to unshackle the music from the old world of legacy entertainment and media. This too, shall change. It just takes time. ER http://ericrice.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's safer to use music you have permissions to. But Usually people let it slide. Kevin Smith's vlog uses a ton of copyrighted music, and do many other people's, and no one's raising any eyebrows. Just don't try to sell it, or put the vlog in iTunes' listings. The answer is basically No, but [for the time being] you can get away with it. Some people I know are trying to work out an extended solution to this which would crack open the archives for use. More as it develops. On 11/21/05, Thomas G Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im not totally sure but i think u need a mechanical license for sampling... and are allowed fewer than 7 notes if you are covering... something like that... check out BMI, ASCAP, Harry Fox, SESAC they'll ask u how many reproductions u plan to make. ur traffic would be an idea i guess... the conversation usually starts around 500 units... and a few dollars per... i dunno if that means they dont care for less than that? permission isn't implied... but u could probably bank on them not wasting their time if the circulation is low... thats all in the context of CD releases n stuff... how that translates to new media ... no idea generally speaking i have no idea what im talking about On 11/21/05, strollingbones2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it legal to use like a ten second snippet of copyrighted music under the Fair Use Clause of the law? Eric http://strollingbones.blogspot.com http://prvideoblogging.blogspot.com -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Thomas G Henry Phone: 845.22.88.555 Skype: ThomasGHenry Community Media http://ValleyVlog.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HVNewMedia/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig= IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H1 5DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=b K2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46 LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos
If they're doing them live, at a venue, the venue will have a mechanical license (well, supposed to, obviously) Markus Sandy wrote: ah, you are assuming cover implies licensed and royalties paid that is *not* common usage for most people out side of the music industry perhaps certainly, lots of local bands claim to do cover songs, but they haven't cleared it or paid for it check a dictionary - most don't mention the payment part Brad Webb wrote: Actually, no, you just have to pay royalties. Copyright specifically allows for cover usage and spells out it's royalty structure. Markus Sandy wrote: that's still a copyright violation (i.e., happy birthday to you ...) Ronen wrote: If you 'cover' a song, then you can use the cover version -- which opens up a world of possibilites. (I'm noticing the rocketboom version seems a cover) On 11/21/05, *Ronen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music in friday's rocketboom, to great effect. The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it makes more sense to link to the source music (which I've been doing) or leave it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no one will notice). I seriousely don't know which is more effective. Any ideas/thoughts on the subject? Ronen cinemalog.net http://cinemalog.net On 11/21/05, *Khoo, Joan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is legal to use mainstream music in videos. And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we identify the companies that allow us to use their music in their videos? Joan -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home
Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos
ah, you are assuming "cover" implies "licensed and royalties paid"that is *not* common usage for most people out side of the music industry perhapscertainly, lots of local bands claim to do "cover" songs, but they haven't cleared it or paid for itcheck a dictionary - most don't mention the payment part I've been very fortunate with music. I have both a daughter and a son in the industry, both of whom write and record music and I have a friend who is eager to have his music played, so I have three different royalty-free resources from which to draw. (My daughter and I are going to collaborate on a video at some point--I'll do the video and send it to her and she'll compose the music for that specific video. She teaches at Berklee College of Music in Boston, so has musicians and recording equipment at her disposal. I knew I raised 'em right.!) -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] stuck at home, sick.
so, i offer this: http://pouringdown.blogspot.com/2005/11/home-sick.html -daniel Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Videospider
LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go beat them up for you?domain: videospider.itorg: BERBERA HYDE ENTERTAINMENT Snc descr: Viale Abruzzi 83descr: 20131 Milano (MI)admin-c: MS6743-ITNICtech-c: MS6743-ITNICpostmaster: MS6743-ITNICzone-c: MS6743-ITNICnserver: 81.29.198.39 NS.STREAMER.NETnserver: 213.215.179.252 NS2.STREAMER.NETmnt-by: STREAMER-MNTcreated: 20040917expire: 20060913source: IT-NICperson: Massimiliano Sossellaaddress: Massimiliano Sossellaaddress: Viale Abruzzi 83 address: 20131 Milano (MI)address: ITnic-hdl: MS6743-ITNIC -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior
I find this hilarious too. Isn't this just the result of defending existing and potential personal celebrity status? We may need to start our very own gossip magazine or celebrity death match. HA! -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior
Defensiveness is what its all about, what makes it hard to discuss these sorts of issues without people falling out. Some 'personal' videobloggers are on the defensive because of how the big media voices have dismissed them. They put time and love into what they do, it seems valid to them, and it may be that this stuff incorporates the very elements of videoblogging that get them excited. Likewise creators of show-type videoblogs may get defensive if people dismiss their stuff as being pointless and too much like TV. And then as soon as we get onto questioning peoples motives, the defensive mechanisms really kick in. Shows are sellouts, only in it for the money and personal vlogs are all bout the ego and self self self. At best this is a grotesque oversimplification, and we all know of many other reasons motives why anybody would create anything, but see how easy it is to tread all over peoples brains in a single sentence. We're human, we are likely to form our own opinions of other peoples motives, but its one thing to judge others and another to declare your judgement publically, every day I struggle to keep such opinions to myself, and fail quite often. Because Rocketboom is arguably one of the most prominent shows of the new web video era, when you or Amanda gets press and gets quoted or give a speech, its going to get scrutinized more than if some nobody like me starts ranting to myself. People who are dedicating much of their lives to the personal videoblogging may be looking to you to defend that stuff, or choose your words carefully, or not mention personal vlogs at all, when in fact you are under no such obligation. Likely many times you will have little choice but to enter this territory, either because of the sorts of questions a journalist might ask, or because of the realities of number of shows like rocketboom vs number of personal vlogs. What you arent helps define what you are, so I think its fair for you to say whatever you like about this stuff. We wont have a proper debate on this if we steer clear of anything that could cause offense, but clearly its emotionally draining when peeps do take things too seriously or get the hump about a specific phrase someone used and then everyone wonders if its worth talking about it at all. Clearly I ususally err on the side of making the point at the risk of offending potentially everyone and having no friends lol, so Im not best placed to advise on this. Then there is the role of text in this affair. I think that after nearly a year of farting around and not achieving anything, I might finally decide what project to dedicate myself to, and that will be more video-based communication systems. Ive waffled about video forums before, and I know someone else has been working on this stuff, and there are some existing options, and factors such as me finding it easier to type these long messages than say them to a camera. But I still want a War on Text, and threaded video conversations etc. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Ronen wrote: This is the funnest thread ever. Ronen I'm feeling like I have a major hangover and don't really think its funny at all, especially because I don't drink. I apologize for being offensive, it's what I always do whenever I get REALLY defensive. I have been on the defense for a long time from the likes of many outspoken characters involved in this play. I get defensive when I dont see any reason behind malicious claims being propagated around so unwittingly. I still don't see any justification for all the backlash against Amanda and myself right now. Anyway, from here on out, I'll just stick to asking technical questions and answering a few when no one else does because I'm just not going to let it get to me anymore. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior
I think the source of frustration is that historical posts (on both sides of the fence) seem to justify their choice of audience by implying it is somehow superior to others. That's not really the case ... they are just different options. The frustration comes when posts imply that a vlog is either boring and not palatable to the masses (as if appealing to the masses is a required aspect to any worthy vlog), or that it's just the same-old-same-old corporate-esk mass media content put up on the web ... That the creators of vlogs are either mundane folks who just don't get the potential of the medium they are using, or they are opportunistic corporate-like entities not at all interested in the intimacy vlogging can provide. Both are extremes and not reality ... but both have been implied on both sides of the content debate (and just because someone cant find a word-for-word statement of something doesn't mean it cant be or hasn't been implied). Of course vloggers understand the medium. We needn't confuse the fact that they aren't of earth shacking importance or bound to be wildly popular as 'not getting it' ... that's a choice they've made. They're ok with knowing that at best 5 people are going to chuckle as they film themselves brushing their teeth. They get it. They get it just fine. They don't need to be popular, or have a point, or care about either to be exactly on target. On the flip side of the coin ... Rocketboom is great. No it doesn't foster the intimacy required to make brushing your teeth interesting ... but that doesn't make it any less valuable. Yes it can be 'entertaining' to a far wider group of people than a personal-journal vlog ... but that doesn't make it any more valuable. RB is designed to reach a very wide audience. It uses a proven format that many people can immediately warm up to and enjoy. And the fact that this is exactly what has happened does not make it evil, and it does not make it a more valid format of vlog ... it's simply the result of a more themed based vlog. I'm not sure what backlash you are getting Andrew, but I think Verdi is taking exception to statements not format / content. Its not really the world's fault that more people respond to content that is intended to be entertaining. Just try to remember that the above quote is mis-leading. the corrected version is: Its not really the world's fault that more people respond to content that is intended to be entertaining *to the masses*. Some vlogs are only aiming to be 'entertaining' to friends/family/random-like-minded-people. Your original quote implies that personal vlogs are something they are not ... or rather are not something that they are. They are in fact meant to be entertainig ... to a very select group. The are responded to - quite well often ... by a small and intimate group of people. - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Output from Sony HDR-HC1
For any of those who have used the new Sony Hi-Def camera, HDR-HC1, what is the format output from the camera. It's not clear on the site, but is it straight MPEG-2 or some other format. Allen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Output from Sony HDR-HC1
This is from my (foggy) memory, but isn't it their HDV format, or is that simply hypespeak for mpeg2? Allen_Weiner wrote: For any of those who have used the new Sony Hi-Def camera, HDR-HC1, what is the format output from the camera. It's not clear on the site, but is it straight MPEG-2 or some other format. Allen Yahoo! Groups Links -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Videospider
I want to see a videoblog interview Reporting live from Viale Abruzzi 83 20131 Milano (MI) ... On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go beat them up for you? domain: videospider.it org: BERBERA HYDE ENTERTAINMENT Snc --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution.
Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior
On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:14 AM, andrew michael baron wrote: I still don't see any justification for all the backlash against Amanda and myself right now. On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:25 PM, David Meade wrote: I'm not sure what backlash you are getting Andrew, but I think Verdi is taking exception to statements not format / content. Okay, let me try again. For those of you who don't know, I'm not against Rocketboom or the idea of creating a videoblogging show. Earlier this year I spent a month working on Rocketboom as the editor. Also, sometime early 2006 you may just see a show from me. That being said, what I take exception to is what David has pointed out - Andrew's statements. Now Andrew, you may feel that I've got it all out of context and that you didn't mean those things that way. Let me just tell you that I and others read them, the way they are worded, as dismissive and patronizing. Again you may think we have it wrong but that doesn't change the words. You can think of it like this: Let's say you accidentally hit me and say, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit you. I'd respond, no problem, it's okay. Then let's say it happens again. This time I might ask you to be more careful. Then let's say it happens a third time. Now I might start to think something is up. I might start to think that you really mean to hit me even though you claim that you didn't mean it. At some point, after this has gone on a half dozen or so times, I'd get pretty pissed off. I'd start to defend myself. I might even hit back. See, just blaming me for not understanding that your intent is different than your words just doesn't cut it. -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
Steve Garfield wrote: Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives. http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from. And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well: http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-videoblogs/ Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Introducing myself
Howdy all, I'd like to introduce myself... My name is Jose Hernandez, I am from San Luis Obispo, living in San Francisco. I just started a collaborative Vlog with some friends to distribute our old work and p;ay with some new ideas, its called http://burntwire.tv and my personal site is http://jozecuervo.com You can find me on MySpace and a plethora of other networks. I work in RD for an instant messaging company called MECA that has recently taken interest in podcast and vlog content, among other things. That said, I'm a vlog producer, developer and consumer and I'm listening to what you al have to say. I even bought an fancy video iPod, just to test this stuff out. So here I am, I just got back from last weeks portable media expo. Met some cool folks from Feedburner, libsyn, odeo, audioblog, etc. Started running into the OG vloggers Eric Rice (was at the expo), Michael Meiser (on technorati), Ryanne (dropped her a line). I am really curious about the hosting, syndication and distribution solutions people have been using, I am about to break my 30GB monthly bandwidth limit and am looking into free services ourmedia and blip TV as well as pay services audioblog.com and libsyn.com here's my current process: http://burntwire.tv/images/production.jpg 1. I export from final cut or premeire as a Mpeg4, 320x240 progressive video clip. I then allow quicktime pro to SLOWLY transcode to the export to iPod H.264 format. My primary goal is to get clips onto the iPod and I have been happy with the results of the encoding, though they are large. 2 Currently I am uploading each clip to my mediatemple shared server account. They give me 2gb/30gb and 6 domains. I use them for a few clients and my own sites. 3. I then post the copy I get from the episode's contributor. Other than title/description, there is other meta-data that I can place into the body of a blog post. I would really love a tag system for doing this kind of thing. 4. Blogger generates my ATOM which is then piped into feedburner, which generates my eclosures and tacks on some itunes namespace goodness. 5. I then go into mefeedia to manually enter everything again. As of last night I have been uploading into blip.tv also. I am considering posting all of my existing work to blip and then switching the feed source in feedbuner. I would ideally like the ultimate level of customizability, like the ability to split the feed into subchannels, since I have so many different types of content coming at me. Libsyn offers that feature. Anyone have any srong opinions about blip or libsyn or audioblog? My second area of inquisiton is file format. I've had several complaints about the current format. I would like to offer a second format, and possibly a second feed for people who cannot view H.264. A friend mentioned that if I import H.264 into flash, I can only export to the Flash8 player. That makes me want to shy away from flash at this time. I guess my question is, what are some good lowest common denominator cross-platform formats? I'd like to his OS9 and windows media 6.4... I'm guessing MPEG-1 is the way to go. Any thoughts peeps? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior
Ok, well maybe this fresh attack comes in the hopes that you would get me to breakdown and defend myself again. All I can say then is that technically, your logic is not applicable because you make it seem as though I have been hitting you or something. All I said to you Verdi is that you are a pro at ripping a sentence fragment out of context and even better than anyone at universalizing. Lets take a look at how you broke into this post. Instead of being defensive, I just want to show how you entered into the conversation. As you can see below, its very aggressive, you were very guilty of universalizing and you assumed that it was you I was talking to all this time, a problem you may want to look more closely at since I had never mentioned you before this. So again, here is how you entered into the thread out of left-field: Why is it that you seem to think that individuals that videoblog are doing it in the pursuit of personal celebrity? Why can't they be doing it to document their lives or to connect with friends and family? Are you saying that anyone who publishes a blog, podcast or videoblog that contains information about their lives is aiming for personal celebrity? Is that what you're doing at dembot.com? Or, playing devil's advocate, couldn't someone make a case that Rocketboom is a vehicle to enhance Amanda's personal celebrity thereby hopefully producing offers of acting jobs? It seems to me that you throw around these comments (this one and others in the past) about individuals videoblogging as if what they (we) are doing is less valid, less bloggy, and now, it seems, to advance our own personal celebrity as if we were some scheming college student trying to get picked for the next Real World cast. Verdi Verdi's first weigh in on the police post On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Verdi wrote: Okay, let me try again. For those of you who don't know, I'm not against Rocketboom or the idea of creating a videoblogging show. Earlier this year I spent a month working on Rocketboom as the editor. Also, sometime early 2006 you may just see a show from me. That being said, what I take exception to is what David has pointed out - Andrew's statements. Now Andrew, you may feel that I've got it all out of context and that you didn't mean those things that way. Yep. Let me just tell you that I and others read them, the way they are worded, as dismissive and patronizing. Out of context. Again you may think we have it wrong but that doesn't change the words. Nope. You can think of it like this: Let's say you accidentally hit me and say, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit you. Yep. I'd respond, no problem, it's okay. Then let's say it happens again. If it did. This time I might ask you to be more careful. If you were thinking. Then let's say it happens a third time. Three times hu? Wow, strike out. Now I might start to think something is up. Might you? I might start to think that you really mean to hit me even though you claim that you didn't mean it. At some point, after this has gone on a half dozen or so times, I'd get pretty pissed off. Why wait that long to get upset is someone hit you that many times? But you said you. Who are we talking about me? I'd start to defend myself. So now you understand defense. I might even hit back. I wouldnt mean to hit back, but yea, you can understand where that comes from. See, just blaming me for not understanding that your intent is different than your words just doesn't cut it. Who ever blamed you? I just said I didnt want to see you naked. Thats the extent of any criticsm I have had for you. You must be assuming I think about you a lot and refer to you when I speak out. Not the case. -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] oopps i did it again, any one got any ideas?
any one haveany idea what this means?? There were errors. (Hide details ...) 004 dk.eos.net.FtpError: Please login with your SITE name as your USER its on blogger i am so stuck livefromlowell.blogspot.com hey randy-- what were you doing when this happened? just logging in? it may have just been a temporary glitch in the blogger servers. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] blogging != CB radio the end times
well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ... but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime in ... :-) Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times vital) component in emergency/disaster communications. ok .. now back to the topic (I think). I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as Vlogging is to TV. VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have. One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great. It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio signals worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of things ... but it was great. Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA! Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and unregulated communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure there was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use (comparably) was hard to ignore. Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more of the world. Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, but nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though they have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international VoIP chat room). The same will happen with media I think. Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like vlogs (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their viewers). People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-) Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the change that is bound to come. ... I think I found the point there?? ... - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: blogging != CB radio the end times
I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are amateur radio operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the most bizarre analogy I've ever seen yet. Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-) ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ... but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime in ... :-) Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times vital) component in emergency/disaster communications. ok .. now back to the topic (I think). I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as Vlogging is to TV. VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have. One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great. It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio signals worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of things ... but it was great. Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA! Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and unregulated communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure there was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use (comparably) was hard to ignore. Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more of the world. Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, but nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though they have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international VoIP chat room). The same will happen with media I think. Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like vlogs (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their viewers). People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-) Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the change that is bound to come. ... I think I found the point there?? ... - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] the continuing frustration
I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now thatI can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that theycan't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't view your videos." -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
We use Quicktime with single-pass 3ivx... It works for people who have QT 6 or higher and Bre showed us our videos on his video iPod. Our latest (theme-based) vlog has more viewers that are non-vloggers than vloggers and none of them have ever complained about our format. I too was confused why there was so much fuss over the video iPod format, but it sounds like MPEG4 (or 3ivx) is fine. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect Ive become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that they can't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says I tried, but I can't view your videos. -- Bev Blog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/ Journal: http://funnytheworld.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
The biggest problem with ANY video is that there is no consistancy. There are multiple file formats (wmv, avi, mpg, mov, etc) and multiple CODECS within each of those file formats (mp4, 3ivx, xvid, divx, etc)... and NONE of them have become common. Audio is pretty firmly entrenched in MP3s, and that won't be changing anytime soon... no matter what anyone thinks about the quality or whatever. Video hasn't reached that point... and I don't really think it ever will. No matter which way you choose to encode your files, there's going to be someone who can't see it. That's just the sad truth. So you're choice becomes: 1) stick with ONE format and force your viewers to download the appropriate player 2) encode your video in as many formats, with as many codecs as possible... and hope it covers enough people. People say that FLASH is very prevalent on most computers (have I seen the 95% or something)... but I get about 5 calls a day from people who don't have Flash on their computers, and since they're on company workstations, they don't have permissions to install it. If the goal is purely reaching as many people as possible... I'd encode one video as a 3ivx .MOV, one as a .WMV, and one as a Flash .FLV. If someone can't see at least one of those, they need to upgrade. -Terry http://boycottsociety.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
Greetings, I dont thnik you are a thorn in anybodies side, the reasons for a lack of response to specific posts are varied. I frequently get paranoid that Im being ignored and am wasting my time, or that I am annoying everyone excessively. Theres likely some truth to it, but Im easily reassured. The high volume of traffic on the list is a nightmare, I occasionally harp on about forums as an alternative, but no alternative to this list seems to have attracted many people to talk as much as is done here. Its a shame because a lot less stuff would be ignored if this place was a forum, people would be able to respond to links with a one word prely such as 'cool' without fear of anybody moaning, and the original poster would have some feedback and a warm glow inside. As for your format uqestion, well thats a nightmare too. Here are some random thoughts on some of the stuff youve brought up: Quicktime will work on the ipods, but the devil is in the detail, the phrase quicktime doesnt actually describe fully what format the video is in. 3ivx is still quicktime (undr most circumstances). The biggest problem with quicktime is that you'll get some PC users without quicktime complaining that they cant see stuff. Flash is by far the most compatible, and is the closest thing to a video format that should work in most browsers on most operating systems, and which most people already have installed. If many users cant see flash video thats been done properly, theres not much hope. Perhaps theres something weird about how youtube do it? Its all a nightmare really, Id agree. Some of the best bits of the blog phenomenon, ease of publishing and viewing, are not so easy with video. Plenty of hurdles, plenty of areas for a nerd like me to waste a whole ear on exploring, and still only really scratch the surface. It will get easier with time, and it sounds like you've had some bad luck as well, some of the things you say dont work, really should work under most circumstances. That only makes things more frustrating when it fails though. Id be happy to look at any of your examples of videos that arent working right for some people, in whatever format, to see if I can answer the specific problems in your case. Personally if I was making a site that should be easily accessible to all, id use flash video for people using browser, and have .mp4 versions of the videos available via feed. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect Ive become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that they can't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says I tried, but I can't view your videos. -- Bev Blog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/ Journal: http://funnytheworld.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage exists to be paid to the writer? And that if we're dealing with non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with the performer who performed the cover?On 11/21/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Garfield wrote: Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives. http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from. And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well: http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-videoblogs/ Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blogging != CB radio the end times
Hehe yeah. I still really like Shortwave, but rarely find time for it now. If I had to fit Ham Radio into the analogy I'd liken them to mainstream media. It's licensed, controlled, and regulated ... where as things like VoIP (largely) isn't. 73s de N9LTQ :-P On 11/21/05, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are amateur radio operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the most bizarre analogy I've ever seen yet. Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-) ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ... but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime in ... :-) Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times vital) component in emergency/disaster communications. ok .. now back to the topic (I think). I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as Vlogging is to TV. VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have. One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great. It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio signals worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of things ... but it was great. Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA! Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and unregulated communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure there was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use (comparably) was hard to ignore. Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more of the world. Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, but nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though they have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international VoIP chat room). The same will happen with media I think. Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like vlogs (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their viewers). People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-) Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the change that is bound to come. ... I think I found the point there?? ... - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
There wass a fuss because: We knew the paper spec before anybody actually had one of the devices to test and be sure. Theres plenty of ways to make video that doesnt work H264 as well as mpeg 4 adds a extra layer of potential confusion and choice about what format gives the best results Apple confused the issue by making their qt7.03 ipod export use a different file extension, and put such stuff in their quickstart instructions without explaining the implications and that its h264 properly. This stuff is on average less familiar to many windows users, who have been more used to wmv and avi, rather than 3ivx and .mp4 or .mov. Apple users have been luckier than Windows users, in that the ipod helps more windows users to consider mp4/mov than would do if it was only for the sake of Mac owners. Its nice when Mac owners give in and offer wmv as well for the sake of PC users, but a lot of PC users hate wmv's far more than Mac owners hate .mov, so Im going to give in and offer flash when I get off me butt nd do some video. I admire people who are able to give ipod solutions in a single sentence, but as peoples requirements vary and the devil is in the detail, I certainly hope theres a use for the people like me who get into detail at the expense of making everything sound complicated. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Quicktime with single-pass 3ivx... It works for people who have QT 6 or higher and Bre showed us our videos on his video iPod. Our latest (theme-based) vlog has more viewers that are non-vloggers than vloggers and none of them have ever complained about our format. I too was confused why there was so much fuss over the video iPod format, but it sounds like MPEG4 (or 3ivx) is fine. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect Ive become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that they can't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says I tried, but I can't view your videos. -- Bev Blog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/ Journal: http://funnytheworld.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
The secondary part, not sure about.. the non-profit side of things. However, the payment to the writer -- the only thing required to distribute a cover -- is correct. Obviously, a deal/agreement has to be made with any performer. Ronen wrote: Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage exists to be paid to the writer? And that if we're dealing with non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with the performer who performed the cover? On 11/21/05, *Pete Prodoehl* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Garfield wrote: Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives. http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from. And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well: http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and-videoblogs/ Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
Hope this isn't too far off the topic of the thread.. but there is indeed a forum over at vlogdir.com. I, for one, think it would be really cool to use that as a means of communication as well. Organizing messages into different topics makes it easier to find an answer to a question you may have, rather than searching through thousands of messages. A lot of things get covered several times here because people have not seen the previous discussions. Unfortunately, not all that many people have taken advantage of it. You can even embed video, audio, images as well as media enclosures from rss feeds right into your messages making it possible to have video discussions. http://vlogdir.com//forum/index.php Erin Nealey Mom's Brag Vlog nealey.blogspot.com The high volume of traffic on the list is a nightmare, I occasionally harp on about forums as an alternative, but no alternative to this list seems to have attracted many people to talk as much as is done here. Its a shame because a lot less stuff would be ignored if this place was a forum, people would be able to respond to links with a one word prely such as 'cool' without fear of anybody moaning, and the original poster would have some feedback and a warm glow inside. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
Ronen wrote: Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage exists to be paid to the writer? And that if we're dealing with non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with the performer who performed the cover? A thread at Ourmedia titled 'Publishing a Cover' is somewhat interesting: http://www.ourmedia.org/node/9564 I assume 'publishing', 'recording', and 'performing' a cover might all be different. The post is in the 'Copyright Fair Use' forum, which has plenty more: http://www.ourmedia.org/forum/15 Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/eMf55D/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It was also great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as well! I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the presentation itself, figured something is better then nothing! http://blog.lgt2.com Take care, Kev! I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it here: http://blip.tv/file/4915 We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: blogging != CB radio the end times
I never thought that amateur radio would be discussed in a video blogger group, but it's great to hear how it all goes hand in hand. I know any ham radio operator would freak out if they are ever compared to cb radio operators, so I have to laugh at that. I've been a ham (radio operator) for a couple years now because it runs in the family, but I always fear that it's a dying bread, so it's nice to hear younger, digital orientated, people still interested in it too! 73s KC9FNR Kev! Hehe yeah. I still really like Shortwave, but rarely find time for it now. If I had to fit Ham Radio into the analogy I'd liken them to mainstream media. It's licensed, controlled, and regulated ... where as things like VoIP (largely) isn't. 73s de N9LTQ :-P On 11/21/05, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are amateur radio operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the most bizarre analogy I've ever seen yet. Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-) ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ... but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime in ... :-) Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times vital) component in emergency/disaster communications. ok .. now back to the topic (I think). I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as Vlogging is to TV. VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have. One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great. It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio signals worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of things ... but it was great. Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA! Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and unregulated communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure there was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use (comparably) was hard to ignore. Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more of the world. Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, but nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though they have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international VoIP chat room). The same will happen with media I think. Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like vlogs (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their viewers). People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-) Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the change that is bound to come. ... I think I found the point there?? ... - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM
[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
I agree with you mostly, and even if the codec issue was sorted there are always isues like resolution and different framerates, issues that wont get any simpler as HD stuff becomes more common with video from TV, DVD and internet. On the other hand I remain optimistic about mpeg4's chances of sucess. Already a large number of the formats we talk about are mpeg4. There are annoying differences and complications, issues caused by history, by technological barriers, or by the interests of companies already in this field. wmv is a sort of mpeg4 in most respects. 3ivx, divx, xvid are mpeg4. Many movs are mpeg4. h264 is a newer kind of mpeg4. Sony PSP plays mpeg4, ipod plays mpeg4. Next generation of DVD is mpeg4-based. There are multiple ways to encode and play mpeg4. Its just not in many companies interests to aim for total convergence, they will only take advantage of these things being standards when it suits them, at other timess they will break the standard to give their products the advantage or some reason to exist. Im pretty confident mpeg4/h264 is going to win in the hardware player market. Im pretty confident that mpeg4 h264 will become normal fetures of video players, editing encoding applications. Watching video in the browser is a little less assured. It depends how many people stick to using .mov containers rather than .mp4, and on more browser plugins that handle playing mpeg4, being installed on more peoples computers. What microsoft do about the emergence of mp4 hardware driving demand for mp4 video rather than wmv will be important. What divx do about the same sort of issue will be important. Whether Apple sort their act out (eg with QT7 on the PC reliability/performance) will make a difference, though can be bypassed if other mp4 player browser software starts to dominate. Whether Sony make the PSPs mpeg4 compatibility better will mean something. Im hearing that the dam is about to burst open on Hollywood TV content being done over the net. 2006 is supposed to be the year so the current thinking goes, its press release and rumour city these days. And the next-generation of games consoles are likely to come into the mix as playback devices. DRM stuff and a desire to closely track viewing figures will likely be an enemy to my optimism on these issues, but never mind, I will keep banging the mp4 drum, its easier to bang since the PSP and ipod came out thats for sure. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, anonperson1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The biggest problem with ANY video is that there is no consistancy. There are multiple file formats (wmv, avi, mpg, mov, etc) and multiple CODECS within each of those file formats (mp4, 3ivx, xvid, divx, etc)... and NONE of them have become common. Audio is pretty firmly entrenched in MP3s, and that won't be changing anytime soon... no matter what anyone thinks about the quality or whatever. Video hasn't reached that point... and I don't really think it ever will. No matter which way you choose to encode your files, there's going to be someone who can't see it. That's just the sad truth. So you're choice becomes: 1) stick with ONE format and force your viewers to download the appropriate player 2) encode your video in as many formats, with as many codecs as possible... and hope it covers enough people. People say that FLASH is very prevalent on most computers (have I seen the 95% or something)... but I get about 5 calls a day from people who don't have Flash on their computers, and since they're on company workstations, they don't have permissions to install it. If the goal is purely reaching as many people as possible... I'd encode one video as a 3ivx .MOV, one as a .WMV, and one as a Flash .FLV. If someone can't see at least one of those, they need to upgrade. -Terry http://boycottsociety.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Digest Number 1350
Thanks for the tip. I'm already using music from podshow but it takes more time for me to make a video because of it. Oh well..cest la vie. Joan Message: 7 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:03:10 -0500 From: Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: mainstream music in videos Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives. http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from. It promotes independent artists AND they get notified when you play their music. I've gotten some great feedback from band members and they love it when we can promote their music. On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Ronen wrote: It's safer to use music you have permissions to. But Usually people let it slide. Kevin Smith's vlog uses a ton of copyrighted music, and do many other people's, and no one's raising any eyebrows. Just don't try to sell it, or put the vlog in iTunes' listings. The answer is basically No, but [for the time being] you can get away with it. Some people I know are trying to work out an extended solution to this which would crack open the archives for use. More as it develops. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Videospider
Indeed! Not that I'm condoning violence in any way. :) Are they a legit business? -Joan Message: 18 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:58:07 +0100 From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Videospider On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:51:06 +0100, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. They're right around the corner from my office. Want me to go beat them up for you? Only if you videoblog it! - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
not a thorn here bev i still firmly believe that *most* people have trouble seeing videos. i have no evidence, but i think the odds of internet users being able to view one of video is less than 1 in 6. that is, it's half a crap shot at this time, the best way i know to make sure people see videos is to teach them to vlog and use tools like fireant i realize that learning to vlog and rss can be a huge hurdle for some, but look at the benefits the more you vlog, the better you view? markus BevSykes wrote: I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now thatI can't keep up, and (b) I suspect I"ve become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that theycan't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says "I tried, but I can't view your videos." -- Bev Blog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/ Journal: http://funnytheworld.com -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
at this time, the best way i know to make sure people see videos is to teach them to vlog and use tools like fireant Has anybody tried the google reader? I'm finding it much easier to use than FireAnt, though it is much less versatile, I realize, but it seems to be the nice plain-vanilla tool that works for me.i realize that learning to vlog and rss can be a huge hurdle for some, but look at the benefits the more you vlog, the better you view? Six months ago, I didn't have a clue about most of this stuff, and I am so grateful to everyone for all that I've learned! -Bev SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
Thanks to you (and to every one) for the clear, concise explanation of where we are and what is the best thing to do. I appreciate if very much. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com - Original Message - From: anonperson1969 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:28 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration The biggest problem with ANY video is that there is no consistancy. There are multiple file formats (wmv, avi, mpg, mov, etc) and multiple CODECS within each of those file formats (mp4, 3ivx, xvid, divx, etc)... and NONE of them have become common.Audio is pretty firmly entrenched in MP3s, and that won't be changing anytime soon... no matter what anyone thinks about the quality or whatever. Video hasn't reached that point... and I don't really think it ever will.No matter which way you choose to encode your files, there's going to be someone who can't see it. That's just the sad truth. So you're choice becomes: 1) stick with ONE format and force your viewers to download the appropriate player 2) encode your video in as many formats, with as many codecs as possible... and hope it covers enough people.People say that FLASH is very prevalent on most computers (have I seen the 95% or something)... but I get about 5 calls a day from people who don't have Flash on their computers, and since they're on company workstations, they don't have permissions to install it. If the goal is purely "reaching as many people as possible"... I'd encode one video as a 3ivx .MOV, one as a .WMV, and one as a Flash .FLV. If someone can't see at least one of those, they need to upgrade.-Terryhttp://boycottsociety.blogspot.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
Id be happy to look at any of your examples of videos that arentworking right for some people, in whatever format, to see if I cananswer the specific problems in your case. Personally if I was makinga site that should be easily accessible to all, id use flash video forpeople using browser, and have .mp4 versions of the videos availablevia feed. Thanks for the offer, Steve. I find that I'm starting to continue to post the 3ivx to Blip and the same to YouTube, with a link from my vlog. I figure that way I hope to maximize the potential. Of course this is all pretty much a tempest in a teapot since I have only a whopping SEVEN people subscribing the the RSS feed, so I'm not quite Rocketboom yet! -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch at home if I can. Great video recap, Kevin. :-) It was awesome meeting all of you. We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers out of it! A job well done. I'll have more video of the event as well later this week. - Dave On 11/21/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It was also great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as well! I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the presentation itself, figured something is better then nothing! http://blog.lgt2.com Take care, Kev! I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it here: http://blip.tv/file/4915 We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
Thanks for the link Erin. I've bookmarked it and hope to check it out when I have more time. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com - Original Message - From: Erin Nealey To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration Hope this isn't too far off the topic of the thread.. but there isindeed a forum over at vlogdir.com. I, for one, think it would bereally cool to use that as a means of communication as well.Organizing messages into different topics makes it easier to find ananswer to a question you may have, rather than searching throughthousands of messages. A lot of things get covered several times herebecause people have not seen the previous discussions. Unfortunately,not all that many people have taken advantage of it. You can evenembed video, audio, images as well as media enclosures from rss feedsright into your messages making it possible to have video discussions. http://vlogdir.com//forum/index.phpErin NealeyMom's Brag Vlognealey.blogspot.com The high volume of traffic on the list is a nightmare, I occasionally harp on about forums as an alternative, but no alternative to this list seems to have attracted many people to talk as much as is done here. Its a shame because a lot less stuff would be ignored if this place was a forum, people would be able to respond to links with a one word prely such as 'cool' without fear of anybody moaning, and the original poster would have some feedback and a warm glow inside. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] great post of police misbehavior
Fucking forget it Andrew. You don't get it. You don't seem to want to get it. I doubt you ever will get it. This thread has truly become a comedy of your inability to even conceive that people could read your words and get from them something other than what you intended. -Verdi On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:31 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: All I can say then is that technically, your logic is not applicable because you make it seem as though I have been hitting you or something. All I said to you Verdi is that you are a pro at ripping a sentence fragment out of context and even better than anyone at universalizing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blogging != CB radio the end times
hey folks... didnt mean to compare two totally different things there just ignorant... cb is not ham... gotcha... pulling things dreadfully off topic again i guess im just curious what of the internet in a post apocalyptic scenario? although i guess if ur rockin ham... u dont really need to run the computer into it... u can just re-organize society by speaking... no email needed... thoughts on the network infrastructure that will reorganize society anyone? On 11/21/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never thought that amateur radio would be discussed in a video blogger group, but it's great to hear how it all goes hand in hand. I know any ham radio operator would freak out if they are ever compared to cb radio operators, so I have to laugh at that. I've been a ham (radio operator) for a couple years now because it runs in the family, but I always fear that it's a dying bread, so it's nice to hear younger, digital orientated, people still interested in it too! 73s KC9FNR Kev! Hehe yeah. I still really like Shortwave, but rarely find time for it now. If I had to fit Ham Radio into the analogy I'd liken them to mainstream media. It's licensed, controlled, and regulated ... where as things like VoIP (largely) isn't. 73s de N9LTQ :-P On 11/21/05, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are amateur radio operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the most bizarre analogy I've ever seen yet. Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-) ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ... but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime in ... :-) Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times vital) component in emergency/disaster communications. ok .. now back to the topic (I think). I've kinda thought of it this way in my head: VoIP is to Ham Radio as Vlogging is to TV. VoIP let people freely find/communicate with people all over the world without the entry barrier (license) or technical knowledge (Radio operation/code/etc) that things like Ham Radio have. One of the coolest things that brought young people into the hobby of Ham Radio was the wonder of sitting town and being able to have a random conversation and share ideas with people all over the world. It was great. It required a license and to learn Morse code, and to know how radio signals worked, and how to tune an antenna for the right band, and all sorts of things ... but it was great. Today ... you can do that with Yahoo Messenger. :-P The other amazing thing you could do with HAM Radio was stay in contact anywhere ... even in your car. HAMs would set up auto-patches to route Shortwave to/from land line telephones ... WHOA! Today ... we all have cell phones. :-P Understandably HAMs were somewhat concerned that their already dwindling numbers might drop off all together as this new distributed and unregulated communication medium found its place in homes all over the world. Sure there was alot of noise on this 'Internet' but the shear ease of use (comparably) was hard to ignore. Mainstream media is no doubt similarly concerned that their revenue models and programming formats are going to be serious problems as a new and engaging form of on-demand entertainment is insisted upon by more and more of the world. Ham Radio Operators eventually learned that things were going to change, but nobody was likely to go extinct. Ham Radio license requirements have changes, preferred operating methods, bandwidth has been reallocated - but HAMs are still around. Hams still use auto-patch at times (even though they have a cell phone). Hams still spend hours hunting for the perfect long-range signal (even though they could just open up an international VoIP chat room). The same will happen with media I think. Some vloggers will move more mainstream. Some mainstream will move to be more vloggish. Vloggers will have to deal with more and more show-like vlogs (and the expectation that will set in new potential viewers). Mainstream media will have to deal with the fact that people can get unfiltered news and entertainment on demand (and the expectation that will set in their viewers). People willing to look through a bit of noise will use VoIP/Vlogging scenario... the rest will find comfort in the more controlled HAM/Mainstream-Media scenario :-) Sure there's noise in our channel ... but it wont prevent the
Re: [videoblogging] stuck at home, sick.
Interesting Stuff. Feel better. PS- Where can we find the Marcy Playground video? Ronen cinemalog.net On 11/21/05, pouringdownpix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, i offer this: http://pouringdown.blogspot.com/2005/11/home-sick.html -daniel SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
I'm not a big fan of the new Google Reader, but I think it is important to offer a 1-click subscribe button for it since Google is beloved by most Internet users. It is my assumption that average users are more likely to relate to a Google link than a Bloglines or Yahoo. Personally, I offer links to each along with a direct FeedBurner link. Here is the Google Reader code... http://www.google.com/reader/preview/*/feed/http://feeds.feedburner.com/ridertech Oh, I also noticed an increase in iTunes subscribers when I changed my FeedBurner layout to the Podcast theme rather than the ClearFeed theme. The Podcast theme offers a 1-click subscribe for iTunes. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody tried the google reader? I'm finding it much easier to use than FireAnt, though it is much less versatile, I realize, but it seems to be the nice plain-vanilla tool that works for me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos
Actually, when you cover a song, if you make money, you're supposed to pay the writer something like 15 cents per song ... I don't know how that would tranlslate into videos ... (perhaps someone who knows something about ASCAP and all that, can correct me, and translate into what I'm trying to say) ... my wife and I did a CD a while ago with one cover song and that's what we heard at various folk festivals based on our sales, we were pretty safe in never sending money to the writer ... (now the music is under a CC license on the internet archive, by the way - not the cover song, but the ones we wrote). ... RichardOn 11/21/05, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you 'cover' a song, then you can use the cover version -- which opens up a world of possibilites. (I'm noticing the rocketboom version seems a cover)On 11/21/05, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music in friday's rocketboom, to great effect. The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it makes more sense to link to the source music (which I've been doing) or leave it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no one will notice). I seriousely don't know which is more effective. Any ideas/thoughts on the subject? Ronen cinemalog.netOn 11/21/05, Khoo, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is legal to use mainstream music in videos. And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we identify the companies that allow us to use their music in their videos? Joan YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] mainstream music in videos
I need to quit posting after only reading half the thread ... what I meant was ... yeah, what they said ...On 11/21/05, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Actually, when you cover a song, if you make money, you're supposed to pay the writer something like 15 cents per song ... I don't know how that would tranlslate into videos ... (perhaps someone who knows something about ASCAP and all that, can correct me, and translate into what I'm trying to say) ... my wife and I did a CD a while ago with one cover song and that's what we heard at various folk festivals based on our sales, we were pretty safe in never sending money to the writer ... (now the music is under a CC license on the internet archive, by the way - not the cover song, but the ones we wrote). ... RichardOn 11/21/05, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you 'cover' a song, then you can use the cover version -- which opens up a world of possibilites. (I'm noticing the rocketboom version seems a cover)On 11/21/05, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Barron (and the blue ball people) used Danny Elfman music in friday's rocketboom, to great effect. The real question, I think, is whether when doing such things it makes more sense to link to the source music (which I've been doing) or leave it unlinked, (presumably the hopes that then no one will notice). I seriousely don't know which is more effective. Any ideas/thoughts on the subject? Ronen cinemalog.netOn 11/21/05, Khoo, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I was hoping you could help me conclusively answer if it is legal to use mainstream music in videos. And if it depends on the artist/producers/company then how do we identify the companies that allow us to use their music in their videos? Joan YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] stuck at home, sick.
Your vlog was truly extraordinary. It held your attention. It gave a unique perspective. It built tension. It reminded me of some of the greatest work of Alfred Hitchcock. You've turned me from a viewer into a fan. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: pouringdownpix To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:28 PM Subject: [videoblogging] stuck at home, sick. so, i offer this: http://pouringdown.blogspot.com/2005/11/home-sick.html-daniel SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Matching music to video?
I have slowly come to realize that some of the really great vloggers have a valuable knowledge of music that they incorporate in their vlogs to convey and underscore an emotion. Does anyone know of any book or internet resource that doesn't just give "free music" but which suggests certain music (free or otherwise) to convey emotions like "sadness" or "tension" or even "joy", etc? I'm sure such a thing exists and I just have to find it. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Now, your vlog can become a card!
A friend sent me the following link. As I viewed it, I was struck by the fact that one can literally "create a greeting card" by doing a vlog. Now, there is an intriguing challenge! Has anyone done that yet? Here's the link: http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=GM26534313 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Videospider
Have they "copied" your material or have they just cleverly copied the link to your free video? I'm glad you're raising this issue. I think they might argue that they aren't charging people for "viewing" your vlogs. They might argue that "The Grand Canyon might be free but tour guides get paid for taking people into parts of it". I'm hoping to start Vlog Digest as a free service by creating links to exceedingly fine vlogs. If I did that and then later sold "paid ads" or on site advertising would you consider that "commercial" use of your vlogs? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Steve Garfield To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:26 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Videospider Have you seen videospider?http://www.videospider.it/I wrote up a blog post about them."Sunday, November 20, 2005I've requested that videospider remove my contentI just found Videospider yesterday. They are charing people to view my Creative Commons licensed videos that say NO COMMERCIAL USE.I'd say that charging for viewing is commerical use."http://tinyurl.com/7nnzuhttp://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/11/ive-requested-that- videospider-remove.htmlMy post details my research into them including this from their site:"Q:Why are you charging people for videos I've posted to USENET for free distribution?A:We're not charging people for your videos. Videospider customers are paying for our service that formats and indexes USENET binary posts to make them easier to browse and view."My emails to them were rejected.--Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Introducing myself
My name is Jose Hernandez, I am from San Luis Obispo, living in San Francisco. I just started a collaborative Vlog with some friends to distribute our old work and p;ay with some new ideas, its called http://burntwire.tv and my personal site is http://jozecuervo.com welcome. Jose's feed is also http://feeds.feedburner.com/Burntwiretv you should meet up with renegad and schlomo and the other Bay Area videobloggers. So here I am, I just got back from last weeks portable media expo. Met some cool folks from Feedburner, libsyn, odeo, audioblog, etc. Started running into the OG vloggers Eric Rice (was at the expo), Michael Meiser (on technorati), Ryanne (dropped her a line). I am really curious about the hosting, syndication and distribution solutions people have been using, I am about to break my 30GB monthly bandwidth limit and am looking into free services ourmedia and blip TV as well as pay services audioblog.com and libsyn.com we've all been here before. but there are solutions for now. storage and bandwidth should never stop you. here's my current process: http://burntwire.tv/images/production.jpg 1. I export from final cut or premeire as a Mpeg4, 320x240 progressive video clip. I then allow quicktime pro to SLOWLY transcode to the export to iPod H.264 format. My primary goal is to get clips onto the iPod and I have been happy with the results of the encoding, though they are large. 2 Currently I am uploading each clip to my mediatemple shared server account. They give me 2gb/30gb and 6 domains. I use them for a few clients and my own sites. 3. I then post the copy I get from the episode's contributor. Other than title/description, there is other meta-data that I can place into the body of a blog post. I would really love a tag system for doing this kind of thing. 4. Blogger generates my ATOM which is then piped into feedburner, which generates my eclosures and tacks on some itunes namespace goodness. 5. I then go into mefeedia to manually enter everything again. As of last night I have been uploading into blip.tv also. I am considering posting all of my existing work to blip and then switching the feed source in feedbuner. I would ideally like the ultimate level of customizability, like the ability to split the feed into subchannels, since I have so many different types of content coming at me. Libsyn offers that feature. really a server is a server is a server. some people like to pay for a server becasue they have control over stats etc. some people like the Archive becasue its free and will store the video for eternity for the community. some people like Blip.tv because its free, the creators are cool, and very reliable. all you need to do is upload to a server fo your choice and link to it. it goes into the feed automatically. after you figure out your process, you should just be worrying about making video. My second area of inquisiton is file format. I've had several complaints about the current format. I would like to offer a second format, and possibly a second feed for people who cannot view H.264. A friend mentioned that if I import H.264 into flash, I can only export to the Flash8 player. That makes me want to shy away from flash at this time. I guess my question is, what are some good lowest common denominator cross-platform formats? I'd like to his OS9 and windows media 6.4... I'm guessing MPEG-1 is the way to go. Bev, whose also on this list, thought she was behind the times because she asked this same question. but we all know that this is one of THE questions that is still in need of an answer. what format to use? as discussed earlier. if you want to be on the iPod..use QT. but WMV is fine as well for viewing. as a community we all need to tell our uncles, pranets, friends, grocers to download the two most popluar players. Quciktime Player: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/mac.html Windown media Player: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/default.mspx both are free. these allow you to watch 80% of video on the web that videobloggers make. i feel like this is some kind of therapy group: if they cant watch your video on their computer, its probably their fault. educate. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/eMf55D/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: GUBA
The free distribution of copyrighted material on the Internet is very widespread. I personally copy and paste entire articles from the New York Times on nonprofit sites like The Immortality Institute www.imminst.org The thinking is that since no one profits from this site, free sharing of information by people who have obtained it legally isn't a serious commercial offense. I'm not sure the lawyers would agree with that. However, no one I know of has gotten any flack for violations of copyright when used in this manner. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Steve Watkins To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: GUBA There are many different sites on the internet that offer a webinterface to binary newsgroup (usenet) posts.However, most of the files on usenet have nothing to do withvideoblogging, they are largely copyrighted material, eg films and tvshows, that should not be redistributed on the internet at all. Forwhatever reasons, the RIAA friends havent focussed on newsgroupsmuch yet, and they dont get mentioned by the mainstream media hardlyever, dunno if the strategy is to pretend they dont exist or what.Anyway your blog isnt on usenet. Videospider is lying in its FAQ aboutwhere its material comes from. Clearly much of it is from usenet, butthey also appear to be leeching content direct from peoples websites,which is what seems to have happened in the case of your videoblog.Therefore it will be a wild goosechase to think that every usenetservice out there is leeching your content, they arent. Its just thevideospider FAQ being misleading. Now if some individual did upload your video to usenet (which as ofwriting is not so), Im not sure what you could do about that.usenet/newsgroups are usually available for free (via newsreadersoftware your ISP), so the person who stuck your stuff on usenetisnt violating CC non-commercial terms. Services that make usenetavailable via an easy web interface just consider themselves to beproviding a service, and say that the actual content is beyond theircontrol. One day the law will probably adress this anomoly, but Id notexpect videoblogging to lead the charge as every day there are already$millions of pounds worth of MSM copyrighted content flying aroundnewsgroups, and the USENET is very large and redistributed by manylarge companies (ISPs mostly). Likely the claim is that the originalperson who put the stuff onto Usenet is the violator, and it is theywho action should be taken against, rather than usenet as a whole.In conclusion Id say that videospide is just a typical leech likewe've talked about before, and that usenet is not currently a threatto videobloggers. If I had a videoblog that was only available viasubscription for a fee, or I ran a porn website, Id probably monitorusenet as its the sort of thing that such material is likely to beillegally redistributed via. I would look at the headers of therelevant usenet posts to determine who did the uploading, and thenconsider them the offender, rather than the impossible task of chasingdown every usenet provider.Steve of Elbows--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GUBA is another site that charges you to watch Pictures and Videos from Usenet, All for only $14.95 / mo.. http://www.guba.com/ Not cool. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
I haven't watched Kevin's video since I'm at work, but I watched Bill's video earlier. It was nice to meet (almost) everyone. Despite my camera shitting out on me, and the fact that I was late because it took forever just to cross the street, I managed to get some video. I should have some clips posted soon once I get off my ass edit them. Or should I even bother? Everyone else will be posting nearly identical video ... /KellyOn 11/21/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watchat home if I can.Great video recap, Kevin. :-)It was awesome meeting all of you.We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handfulof tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggersout of it!A job well done.I'll have more video of the event as well later this week. - Dave -- http://kellybelly.net YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted a few weeks ago? Bill --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch at home if I can. Great video recap, Kevin. :-) It was awesome meeting all of you. We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers out of it! A job well done. I'll have more video of the event as well later this week. - Dave On 11/21/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It was also great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as well! I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the presentation itself, figured something is better then nothing! http://blog.lgt2.com Take care, Kev! I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it here: http://blip.tv/file/4915 We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Output from Sony HDR-HC1
Its Mpeg 2, stored on normal miniDV tapes, and at the same bitrate as DV (so a 60 minute DV tape still gives 60 minutes HDV recording). They did this because HD stuff is higher res than DV, so theres more information to store, and mpeg2 can compress more than DV, so it mkes up for this. Its straight mpeg2 but things are never quite that simple. Its actually mpeg2 transport stream I think, the file extension is .m2t Also depends how your capture editing software handdles HDV. Some dont handle the native mpeg2 format and may capture to an intermediate codec for editing, which may take up much more disc space. Or for certain apps eg some standalone encoder, you may need to convert the m2t to a m2v. The key really is having a suitable HDV editing program, anybody who has one probably doesnt need to know any of the waffle Ive just been saying, this stuff will be invisible to them. I have that particular camera (European version) and its very nice. I havent had anything interesting to film recently though so Ive forgetten the more technical aspects of the format. Looks like its going to be a cold winter here in the UK though, snow as early as the end of this week, so I hope to capture some high definiton winterscapes in the coming months. At that point I'll probably start waffling about using higher res web video to make the best use of specific HDV camera footage again, if memory sserves me correctly I was promoting using quarter HDV which would be around the 960x540 resolution for PAL footage. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is from my (foggy) memory, but isn't it their HDV format, or is that simply hypespeak for mpeg2? Allen_Weiner wrote: For any of those who have used the new Sony Hi-Def camera, HDR-HC1, what is the format output from the camera. It's not clear on the site, but is it straight MPEG-2 or some other format. Allen Yahoo! Groups Links -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Help with Grant Proposal
I'm applying for a grant to start a vlog for my courses at Western Michigan. I'll be providing the content. Students will be the subscribers for now. I already have a miniDV camera. I'd like to purchase a Mac. The grant will probably be in the amount of $5,000. Do you have suggestions about what equipment and software to purchase? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted a few weeks ago? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch at home if I can. Great video recap, Kevin. :-) It was awesome meeting all of you. We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers out of it! A job well done. I'll have more video of the event as well later this week. - Dave On 11/21/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It was also great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as well! I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the presentation itself, figured something is better then nothing! http://blog.lgt2.com Take care, Kev! I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it here: http://blip.tv/file/4915 We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior
I have to say that this is a much nicer thread than what is happening on my vlog at the moemnt with the comments. I've just spent the last 2 hours removing hate comments about this posting. I tried to leave as many comments that actually were about the event rather than blatant hate comments. I've had a few before, but never 90 on one post. Lesson I have learned from this: Even though it is just a personal vlog for documentation sake, it doesn't make me immune to the shit that's out there. I love all you vloggers. Let's just remeber that we have to look out for eachother, and support wachother's freedom of speech, or freedom to document. Whether that be for personal celebrity, political gain, to pick up chicks, or just for the sake of vlogging. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, dismissive and patronizing. What arrogance. I guess we're done here. Verdi On Nov 20, 2005, at 2:13 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: Yes, and once again, even though you rip this all out of context, so be it. I stand behind all of these statements even as fragments. Its absolutely true that the majority of the videobloggers out there, including yourself, are exactly this way - using videoblogging to share my life and meet new people, to make friends. Personal diaries. Its like Friendster for video and that is great, its how I met most of the friends I have now. I still wish and anticipate and can't wait to see more applied use of this medium in the world beyond making friends and showing each other their naked bodies and bodily excretions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
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[videoblogging] HOW TO WATCH IPOD ON YOUR TV. article found in lifehackers feed
http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/11/18/video-ipod.html The MacDevCenter's (and former Lifehacker Associate Editor) Erica Sadun has discovered an interesting quirk about the fifth generation video iPod that could save you some money this Christmas. You don't have to fork out for an outrageously priced proprietary Apple video cable. You don't even have to buy an expensive dock. You can connect your Video iPod directly to a TV, and you can do it with the ordinary camcorder A/V-to-RCA cable you probably already have lying around your house. The simple trick is that the video outputs to the red RCA jack rather than the traditional yellow. With that little trick, you'll probably save around ten bucks. So... kinda lame, Apple, but whatever. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: mainstream music in videos
I wasn't sure if anyone has responded to your question about who to contact about copyright issues. Most music is handled in the United States by the Harry Fox Agency which is responsible for use rights access. I think the web link is www.harryfox.com. Hope that this helps. Darren W. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/21/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you must mean the copyrighter - the author often has little say in matters once a piece is published Copyright holder, yes ;) How naive of me. Brad Webb wrote: The secondary part, not sure about.. the non-profit side of things. However, the payment to the writer -- the only thing required to distribute a cover -- is correct. Obviously, a deal/agreement has to be made with any performer. Ronen wrote: Am I incorrect that a 'cover' version of a song requires that a deal must be arranged with the performer, but that a fixed percentage exists to be paid to the writer? And that if we're dealing with non-profit distribution, the only issue is arranging a deal with the performer who performed the cover? On 11/21/05, *Pete Prodoehl* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Garfield wrote: Over on the podcasting side of things Adam Curry has completley stopped using any music that he doesn't have the rights to and has removed old podcasts with copyrighted music from his archives. http://music.podshow.com is one of the places I get music from. And I mentioned Magnatune last week as well: http://rasterweb.net/raster/2005/11/16/magnatune-and- videoblogs/ Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51 .sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51 .sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.s ig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.s ig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.s ig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.s ig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=R O46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=R O46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA - --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. - --- SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51 .sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51 .sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.s ig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.s ig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.s ig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.s ig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=R O46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=R O46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA - --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Can you expand on the problem a little? Its extremely hard to make 3ivx mov's that wont play back on computers with quicktime installed. The most likely cause of 3ivx movs not working is therefore the person not having quicktime at all. Off the top of my head theres maybe one option you could tick in 3ivx, an advanced option, that would cause an incompatibility, but Ive forgotten what its called; something that sounds complicated like adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition anomoly grid. Have you had any reported problems with people seeing the youtube flash version of your stuff? I am assuming your talk of 3ivx was about your quicktime videos. Anyway Im glad I had a look at your recent video as a test, lol you are a creator of amusing content, you got a way with words :) For what its worth I couldnt see any obvious problems with either format of video that you offer. I forgot who was talking about flash earlier, and quite how many people dont have flash installed, and yeah, I think maybe their claims about what percentage of people have flashinstalled are out of date or slightly optimistic. Still lol despite the hassles videobloggers are still doing a better job with compatibility and formats than many huge media companies. Most of the BBCs stuff is still using realvideo for example. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted a few weeks ago? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch at home if I can. Great video recap, Kevin. :-) It was awesome meeting all of you. We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers out of it! A job well done. I'll have more video of the event as well later this week. - Dave On 11/21/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It was also great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as well! I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the presentation itself, figured something is better then nothing! http://blog.lgt2.com Take care, Kev! I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it here: http://blip.tv/file/4915 We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] the continuing frustration
I never noticed that. hmm... On 11/22/05, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and link it to my flog. Hmmm...was this one of my freudian slips YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Gabe's police video (used to be verdi and baron fight)
I have to say that this is a much nicer thread than what is happening on my vlog at the moemnt with the comments. I've just spent the last 2 hours removing hate comments about this posting. I tried to leave as many comments that actually were about the event rather than blatant hate comments. I've had a few before, but never 90 on one post. Lesson I have learned from this: Even though it is just a personal vlog for documentation sake, it doesn't make me immune to the shit that's out there. what were people saying gabe? they were mad at you for documenting getting randomly searched by police? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Output from Sony HDR-HC1
We have an HDR A1, very similar to the HC1, and there's different output from the camera HDV : HD signal compressed in mpeg2 to fit on a dv tape, it is what they call long gop which means there's only 6 real frames a second, the others frames are interpolations. You can edit native HDV in Final cut, Premiere and others... DV : you can also shoot HDV (or DV) and downconvert your signal in DV with the camera than it would work with any native DV editing software. If you need more infos, I'll be glad to help you out. Jerome Le 05-11-21, à 13:42, Brad Webb a écrit : This is from my (foggy) memory, but isn't it their HDV format, or is that simply hypespeak for mpeg2? Allen_Weiner wrote: >For any of those who have used the new Sony Hi-Def camera, HDR-HC1, >what is the format output from the camera. It's not clear on the site, >but is it straight MPEG-2 or some other format. > >Allen > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. _ ALT productions 4530 Saint-Laurent, #206, Montréal, QC H2T 1R3 514.521.1256 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blogging != CB radio the end times
Hmmm ... for some reason I cant resist the chance to imagine how the post apocalyptic Internet would be ... :-P Well Ham radio operators have been networking computers over radio waves for a long time. I actually saw this done before I ever saw the Internet. Post apocalyptic scenario ... I'd imagine you'd see Ham Radios spring up quite quickly (actually they're already there ... but you'd see them become hubs of communication quite quickly). There is a well documented and pretty robust emergency message relay system on short wave. Stations would operate in all sorts of modes, including computers. (random crazy thoughts follow...) With the given that we'd have electricity somehow (some sort of generator would have to work)... regular wired Local Area Networks would pop up easily enough, I suppose. They'd probably use regular Wireless Access Points to inter-network with other small LANs in the immediate area as needed. Each of these smaller LAN would probably schedule their availability ... a few hours at a time so as to reserve power and bandwidth. They'd probably use mostly text (email/usenet style systems) to pass along vital information from one pocket of survivors to the next ... why waste valuable time/fuel for the network up-time needed to send a video message when text would take only a fraction of the time (not to mention the bandwidth that other networks might be waiting on in order to pass a message). One of these LANs would ideally have a Ham Radio Relay Station and it could act as a gateway to other HAM stations in distant metropolitan areas. Messages from one small network to another could be routed via short wave radio (which has extremely large range) to the nearest Ham Radio Relay station. Small LANs in wireless range of their local Ham Radio Relay station, could snyc up with the gateway during their scheduled up-time ... stations further out would have to have their messages trickle down to them over a period of time. The number of HAM relay stations I imagine would grow quite quickly such that each major area of population would have many gateways soon. Eventually someone would figure out how to get the satellite Internet services to work again (I imagine there would be some initial outage as their ground based ISP goes dark?) and then there'd be even more global gateways than just the HAM nets. All of this would, I expect, be used mostly to marshal resources between survivor groups. Things would get ever more reliable and real-time as the infrastructure is rebuilt ... assuming there is enough food/water for that to matter. As long as the air wasnt toxic, the climate tolerable, we could find food and water, and generate electricity for at least short periods of time ... ... we'd be vlogging again in no time. :-P - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com On 11/21/05, Thomas G Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey folks... didnt mean to compare two totally different things there just ignorant... cb is not ham... gotcha... pulling things dreadfully off topic again i guess im just curious what of the internet in a post apocalyptic scenario? although i guess if ur rockin ham... u dont really need to run the computer into it... u can just re-organize society by speaking... no email needed... thoughts on the network infrastructure that will reorganize society anyone? On 11/21/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never thought that amateur radio would be discussed in a video blogger group, but it's great to hear how it all goes hand in hand. I know any ham radio operator would freak out if they are ever compared to cb radio operators, so I have to laugh at that. I've been a ham (radio operator) for a couple years now because it runs in the family, but I always fear that it's a dying bread, so it's nice to hear younger, digital orientated, people still interested in it too! 73s KC9FNR Kev! Hehe yeah. I still really like Shortwave, but rarely find time for it now. If I had to fit Ham Radio into the analogy I'd liken them to mainstream media. It's licensed, controlled, and regulated ... where as things like VoIP (largely) isn't. 73s de N9LTQ :-P On 11/21/05, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love how ham radio gets brought into the mix. Two of us on our show are amateur radio operators, licensed and the whole nine, as are most of my friends. It's the most bizarre analogy I've ever seen yet. Unless we need licenses to blog? ;-) ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well I'm not sure how Ham Radio got into the mix (its different than CB) ... but as a Federally Licensed Short Wave Radio Operator (HAM Radio) I'll chime in ... :-) Let me first speak to the slightly OT part: Yeah HAM operators have been operating a network of computers over short wave for ... well a long long long long long time. Ham Radio has always been an interesting (and at times
[videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
I've been reading this group for the last week or so and have been officially video podcasting for a about the same time. What I find perplexing is the hand wringing over Rocketboom and it's perceived slights to the video podcasting community. 1. People have been trying to break into the television business by using streaming video for the last ten years. It's only been in the last year or so that there has been a tipping point of cheap broadband and easy access to video technology that allows people to really be creative. And radio stations have been trying to do the same thing with streaming their audio on the web. It was only with the invention of RSS and the ability to whip off an MP3 that podcasting and internet radio became a phenomenon. 2. Old media has money, and they solve problems with money. They're able to show up everyday with hours of fresh and good looking programming because they have money. Rocket Boom is the best in class video podcast. Not because it's clever, or has amazing production values, but because it shows up everyday. That consistency has a tremendous value. And I would say that anyone who is jealous of that or thinks they can do better to just do it. There is nothing stopping you. RB has a tremendous room for improvement -- as does any human endeavour. If you can do better, please do. Video blogging and video podcasts in general are enjoyable because they have immediacy and an unfiltered perspective that people crave. My favorite video podcast right now is http://TikiBarTv.com -- it has a really fun perspective that I don't see anywhere else and great production value. But it only comes out once a month. If their were RSS feeds for http://Homestarrunner.com and http://Roosterteeth.com I jump on them in a second. 3. The iPod video is the first mass appeal gadget designed to work with downloaded video. The PSP could do it before, but it's kind of a pain and Sony would prefer you bought UMD movies. The video iPod gives us as content creators a tool -- it plays on the Video iPod. Which means people with quicktime or players of similar compatibility (PSPs included) will also be able to see our work. 4. The real future for all of this is being able to send our video material not only to pocket level devices like iPods and PSPs, but when Tivos themselves will reed mRSS feeds and be able to subscribe to your favorite podcasts on your TV. 5. It seems obvious that the popular content producers will be co-opted by big media if they let themselves. While the artists and iconoclasts will remain small and personal. 6. We are in the period of video podcasting and video P2P sharing right now where music was 8 years ago. There's a lot of dedicated hobbyists out there who collect TV shows and movies from the net and trade them. But soon Big Media will aggressively enter this market. iTunes has started it, and the Howard Stern deal and others have started to make consumers comfortable with the idea of getting the shows they want when they want them, rather than being broadcast at an arbitrary time. 7. What does this all mean for this group of 1600ish people reading this? Get good at creating video that people want to watch. If you can establish yourself right now when there are less than 200 video podcasts on Podcast Alley you're going to have a better chance at 'winning' in the end. And what does winning even mean? Does it mean having podcast geeks swarm you like Dawn and Drew did at the Podcast expo? Getting a show on MTV? For me video podcasting is the synthesis of years of filmmaking and trying to break through into Hollywood. It allows me an avenue to find an audience without going through a gatekeeper. If people like what I'm doing they'll come back for more. -K -- Kent Nicholshttp://beatboxgiant.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Send your movies to me i would love to see them
Hello all, Well the time has come. I want to see all of your movies. I have tons of subscribers and they want movies for their ipods. This is a website designed with you in mind and your talent. The theater if full and it is time for you to perform. I want your short and long films. Comedy, serious, annoying, anything that you think is talent. If you are producing short films, this is the perfect opportunity to show your work to everyone and get their feedback on my site comments. Let the shows begin. Good Luck Paul Burns Send your videos to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (copy and paste) http://libsyn.com/media/paulburns/Show_me_your_movies.m4v www.paulburnsstudio.com www.paulburnsstudio.com/rss Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Yeah the issue is with the video that I posted on Blip.tv http://blip.tv/file/4915/ of Richard and I returning from the Meet the Vloggers in Chicago. It's not on my main blog, so there is no Flash version, it's the QuickTime. This happened once before. I did something with 3vix that made some people get a white screen rather than a picture. And the weird thing was that these people had simularly configured machines to mine (OS 10.4 QuickTime 7) etc. Yet I could view the files and they couldn't. The only thing I could think of was the fact that I had 3vix installed on my Quicktime and they didn't. Bill --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you expand on the problem a little? Its extremely hard to make 3ivx mov's that wont play back on computers with quicktime installed. The most likely cause of 3ivx movs not working is therefore the person not having quicktime at all. Off the top of my head theres maybe one option you could tick in 3ivx, an advanced option, that would cause an incompatibility, but Ive forgotten what its called; something that sounds complicated like adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition anomoly grid. Have you had any reported problems with people seeing the youtube flash version of your stuff? I am assuming your talk of 3ivx was about your quicktime videos. Anyway Im glad I had a look at your recent video as a test, lol you are a creator of amusing content, you got a way with words :) For what its worth I couldnt see any obvious problems with either format of video that you offer. I forgot who was talking about flash earlier, and quite how many people dont have flash installed, and yeah, I think maybe their claims about what percentage of people have flashinstalled are out of date or slightly optimistic. Still lol despite the hassles videobloggers are still doing a better job with compatibility and formats than many huge media companies. Most of the BBCs stuff is still using realvideo for example. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted a few weeks ago? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch at home if I can. Great video recap, Kevin. :-) It was awesome meeting all of you. We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers out of it! A job well done. I'll have more video of the event as well later this week. - Dave On 11/21/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It was also great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as well! I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the presentation itself, figured something is better then nothing! http://blog.lgt2.com Take care, Kev! I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it here: http://blip.tv/file/4915 We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
On 11/21/05, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you expand on the problem a little? Its extremely hard to make 3ivx mov's that wont play back on computers with quicktime installed. The most likely cause of 3ivx movs not working is therefore the person not having quicktime at all. I did manage to see it at home. But at the office I got only sound... the video was just a solid white screen. (Both systems are windows xp w/ QT 7 installed). The office computer has all sorts things 'locked down' ... but I dont really know what could have caused the problem. something that sounds complicated like 'adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition anomoly grid'. Uhg ... if I had a dime for every time the Adaptive Inverse Oscelot Repatraition Anomily Grid somehow messed me up, I'd be a wealthy man. :-P - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Cheers for the info, According to 3ivxs own guides, its the MPEG Quantizer (ASP) option that causes the resulting files to be incompatible with quicktime 6, bt I dont know if thats the problem with this particular video, I'll try it on a few different computers tomorrow. Cheers Steve of Elbows PS. See this page for a little more info: http://www.3ivx.com/support/mac/encoding/quicktime.html#advanced --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did manage to see it at home. But at the office I got only sound... the video was just a solid white screen. (Both systems are windows xp w/ QT 7 installed). The office computer has all sorts things 'locked down' ... but I dont really know what could have caused the problem. something that sounds complicated like 'adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition anomoly grid'. Uhg ... if I had a dime for every time the Adaptive Inverse Oscelot Repatraition Anomily Grid somehow messed me up, I'd be a wealthy man. :-P - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the continuing frustration
Hi Bev, I would like to say a bunch of stuff but I'm in a computer lab waiting for my class to start. There are times when it does get a little thick around here. Certain discussions I actually stay out of because I sense the topic isn't about vlogging per say but chest beating. Since I have stuff on my chest I try not to do that too often. ;-) The file format situation is a fustration with me too, having to create in multiple video formats. I don't always have time or the energy to do it the way I want it done. But the reality is that there are a majority of windows users but many vloggers us Macs and Quicktime. God helps when the Linux folks show up at the door. Anyway I just wanted to say I hear you and that I'd like to follow up later after I get home. Please feel free to e-mail me and lets see what we can come up with. Gena *** --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BevSykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really rarely read this group any more because (a) you are all so far above my head now that I can't keep up, and (b) I suspect Ive become a thorn in many sides since I now rarely receive any response at all. But my big frustration is in trying to find a format. Any format. I started posting in .wmv but people couldn't see that and I was told that QuickTime was the way to go, so I started posting in QuickTime. Then I was told that QuickTime couldn't be loaded onto the new iPods and I should use 3ivx, which I did. Now some people complaint that they can't see those. I post to both Blip and YouTube. You Tube uses flash. Some can see it, some can't. Nerissa helped me with creating imbedded players on my site, which some complain can't be seen. Then Robert very kindly took a video for me and converted it into two flash formats, one of which I can't see. I've upgraded my windows media viewer. I've upgraded my flash format and though I have no problem viewing the videos most of you guys post, my own videos can be seen by some, not by all. For the average, run of the mill, senior citizen who just wants to watch a video and not get into video blogging, etcwhat is the best way to go? I belong to Senior Net and people are enthusiastic about seeing my videos, but cannot see either 3ivx or YouTube's flash. My boss wants me to put a video on his web page, which I did in several formats, none of which he is able to access from his computer. I have studied all of Josh's excellent training videos and tried everything and nothing works consistently. I am so confused and so frustrated. It's not like I'm posting anything terribly creative or important or anything else. And my god have I learned a lot in the past six months, but at every turn I come up against another brick wall when someone says I tried, but I can't view your videos. -- Bev Blog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/ Journal: http://funnytheworld.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. The real future for all of this is being able to send our video material not only to pocket level devices like iPods and PSPs, but when Tivos themselves will reed mRSS feeds and be able to subscribe to your favorite podcasts on your TV. Going the opposite way, TiVo just announced it is expanding its video recording service so users will be able to transfer recorded TV shows onto iPods. http://tinyurl.com/ayarl -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Yah Bill, I only get a white screen :/ XP, Firefox, QT 7.0.3, no 3vix installed. I'll try my mac later.On 11/21/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah the issue is with the video that I posted on Blip.tv http://blip.tv/file/4915/ of Richard and I returning from the Meet the Vloggers in Chicago. It's not on my main blog, so there is no Flash version, it's the QuickTime. This happened once before. I did something with 3vix that made some people get a white screen rather than a picture. And the weird thing was that these people had simularly configured machines to mine (OS 10.4 QuickTime 7) etc. Yet I could view the files and they couldn't. The only thing I could think of was the fact that I had 3vix installed on my Quicktime and they didn't. Bill --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you expand on the problem a little? Its extremely hard to make 3ivx mov's that wont play back on computers with quicktime installed. The most likely cause of 3ivx movs not working is therefore the person not having quicktime at all. Off the top of my head theres maybe one option you could tick in 3ivx, an advanced option, that would cause an incompatibility, but Ive forgotten what its called; something that sounds complicated like adaptive inverse oscelot repatraition anomoly grid. Have you had any reported problems with people seeing the youtube flash version of your stuff? I am assuming your talk of 3ivx was about your quicktime videos. Anyway Im glad I had a look at your recent video as a test, lol you are a creator of amusing content, you got a way with words :) For what its worth I couldnt see any obvious problems with either format of video that you offer. I forgot who was talking about flash earlier, and quite how many people dont have flash installed, and yeah, I think maybe their claims about what percentage of people have flashinstalled are out of date or slightly optimistic. Still lol despite the hassles videobloggers are still doing a better job with compatibility and formats than many huge media companies. Most of the BBCs stuff is still using realvideo for example. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I dunno what is going on. I suspect it has something to do with the 3vix settings I'm using. Some can see the video and some people can't. Does anyone have the famous Verdi 3vix settings that he posted a few weeks ago? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been able to view your vid here at work Bill, but I'll watch at home if I can. Great video recap, Kevin. :-) It was awesome meeting all of you. We had The Festival of Lights to contend with, but by the end of the presentation we had a pretty full house, lots of questions, a handful of tag-alongs to the bars ... and I think we'll get a few new vloggers out of it! A job well done. I'll have more video of the event as well later this week. - Dave On 11/21/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great video! Nice to see/hear what you guys chatted about on the way back. It was also great to be able to meet you both! Looking forward to your other videos as well! I just posted a video of clips that I took with my crappy camera of the presentation itself, figured something is better then nothing! http://blog.lgt2.com Take care, Kev! I posted Richard and I making a video recap of our Meet the Vloggers experience in Chicago this weekend on our ride home. You can see it here: http://blip.tv/file/4915 We have a lot more video of the event and other things still to come. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Send your movies to me i would love to see them
Is this tongue-in-cheek?You realize that we have video blogs too, no?On 11/21/05, pburns220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Well the time has come. I want to see all of your movies. I have tons of subscribers and they want movies for their ipods. This is a website designed with you in mind and your talent. The theater if full and it is time for you to perform. I want your short and long films. Comedy, serious, annoying, anything that you think is talent. If you are producing short films, this is the perfect opportunity to show your work to everyone and get their feedback on my site comments. Let the shows begin. Good Luck Paul Burns Send your videos to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (copy and paste) http://libsyn.com/media/paulburns/Show_me_your_movies.m4v www.paulburnsstudio.com www.paulburnsstudio.com/rss SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] The return of the cube
If you have a minute tonight would you check and let me know how whether you like or not the quality of the video image in this post. The first time around the some were not able to view it, this time I used h.264 http://www.24x7.com/blog/2005-11/cube-astor-place/ thanks r On 11/19/05, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was walking to the east village yesterday and noticed the cube has returned to Astor Place. I whipped out my cam and shot 30 seconds, posted it last night after reading more in the news the details. Hope you enjoy, and hope it works in fireant, I haven't had time to check yet. http://www.24x7.com/blog/2005-11/cube-astor-place/ If you shoot the cube, send me URI and I'll link in post update. cheers r -- URL: http://r.24x7.com Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] My Passion for Personal Media
Many of you know me but for those that don't, I wanted to introduce myself. As Steve Garfield says we are channels and personal media is a way to express yourself and convey what is important to each of us. I love my family, friends, music, personal media, business systems, education and helping lift peoples capabilities to a higher level, of course as well as other things I won't mention as you check out my channel. I wanted to share some learning from an event that was delivered around the Power of Personal Media to a school for Digital Arts called Ex'pression College, grab the www.Xpressionvlog.blogspot.com feed or just check it out. The goal was to convey the power of personal media, collaboration and digital rights. A part of the program was influenced by our efforts around Node101. The Outline; Collect content that relates to the show. Capture a live perfomance of Alex Woodard Presentations on Creative Commons Mia Presentation on OurMedia JD Presentation on Collaboration with SpinXpress and Remix of clips Live post of the first videoblogs of the event We'll be posting on the site and making available the content for remix for the videoblogging community to remix if it is of interest. I'd like to thank Markus Sandy, Schlomo Rabinowitz who helped me produce the event, Mia Garlick, JD Lasica, Steve Garfield, Micahel Verdi, Ryanne Hodson, Ted Tagami, Enriq, Chris Ritke and all the others that pitched in. If you are interested in persuing this concept let me know. I am not able to contribute as much to this conversation as I would like but would like to visit here and there to pass on things that I hope might be useful. I love what you all are doing here. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Send your movies to me i would love to see them
Well the time has come. I want to see all of your movies. I have tons of subscribers and they want movies for their ipods. This is a website designed with you in mind and your talent. The theater if full and it is time for you to perform. I want your short and long films. Um, Paul, excuse my language, but this list does not consist of idiots. Your message was, frankly, insulting. People work hard on their videos, and have video blogs to show them. This is personal media. If you want to feature *our* content on *your* site, you better be clear about the license, your intentions and such. Why would someone send you a video, for free, instead of featuring it on their own videoblog? We have RSS for distribution. If you want to link to videobloggers , promote them and in that way contribute to this ecology, feel free, that's how the web works and that would be really helpful. Perhaps you just misunderstood the culture of videoblogging and of this list. Cheers, Peter -- http://mefeedia.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Send your movies to me i would love to see them
I realize I was a bit harsh here. Paul, perhaps you can explain a bit why you want to show videos on your own blog instead of linking to and promoting the blogs of the people who created the video? Cheers, Peter Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Matching music to video?
.. usually one is looking for something more ...specific, both in terms of emotion and timing, than in a guide so simple -- music can carry multiple meanings depending on the footage. Most of my skill in this area (and I just listen to a lot of music and use music from memory) came from spending a long time listening to movie scores, watching films with only the score playing, and re-playing the same video many (many) times with different music. You'll quickly see how different peices of music shape the video. (Also try moving the same peice of music around, creating different sync points.) I've been developing an extended education series on the subject to put on cinemalog, and I'll drop a line here when it begins. Ronen (ps- some examples of background music I've used are on the site, and so far as creds I've also edited tons of film and ghostwritten the 'film music' section of a standard university music text) Best of luckOn 11/21/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have slowly come to realize that some of the really great vloggers have a valuable knowledge of music that they incorporate in their vlogs to convey and underscore an emotion. Does anyone know of any book or internet resource that doesn't just give free music but which suggests certain music (free or otherwise) to convey emotions like sadness or tension or even joy, etc? I'm sure such a thing exists and I just have to find it. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: great post of police misbehavior
Given our medium and passions, it's a shame that -- if we at least can't get rid of flame-wars-esque discussions -- we can't at least put them in our chosen medium, to make them interesting and perhaps get people involved and active (ie: content creators) by inspiring reactions. (ie, this is a yahoo groups debate, not an actual vlog debate) hm... now THAT would be interesting. (Obviousely, I don't there's much to debate... but using it as a forum sounds interesting... instead of 2-minute responses, 2-minute videos, with 5 days prep... etc, etc. Not for this debate, probably, but food for thought)On 11/21/05, gabe_perardua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say that this is a much nicer thread than what is happening on my vlog at the moemnt with the comments. I've just spent the last 2 hours removing hate comments about this posting. I tried to leave as many comments that actually were about the event rather than blatant hate comments. I've had a few before, but never 90 on one post. Lesson I have learned from this: Even though it is just a personal vlog for documentation sake, it doesn't make me immune to the shit that's out there. I love all you vloggers. Let's just remeber that we have to look out for eachother, and support wachother's freedom of speech, or freedom to document. Whether that be for personal celebrity, political gain, to pick up chicks, or just for the sake of vlogging. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, dismissive and patronizing. What arrogance. I guess we're done here. Verdi On Nov 20, 2005, at 2:13 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: Yes, and once again, even though you rip this all out of context, so be it. I stand behind all of these statements even as fragments. Its absolutely true that the majority of the videobloggers out there, including yourself, are exactly this way - using videoblogging to share my life and meet new people, to make friends. Personal diaries. Its like Friendster for video and that is great, its how I met most of the friends I have now. I still wish and anticipate and can't wait to see more applied use of this medium in the world beyond making friends and showing each other their naked bodies and bodily excretions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: [SF Bay Node 101] Expression mash-up
Yes, this method of creating/consuming media in the presenting of videoblogging worked very well. I think such methods should be incorporated as possible in future MTV (Meet The Vloggers) presenations. I had a very short presentation on blogging at the S.F. Indie Club meeting on 11/19/05. I blogged about my attempt in the presentation to remove the seperation between speaker and audience at my new blog site: http://cohere.cirne.com . , Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great job! You're really getting great at making posts! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Digital" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schlomo, Markus, and Dave Toole put together a really cool event yesterday at _expression_ College of Digital Arts in Emeryville, CA.J.D. Lasica (Ourmedia.org) was there, as was Chris Rikte (49media.com) and Mia Garlick (creativecommons.org)Markus has a great preview vlog here: http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com/2005/11/_expression_.htmlYou can review the results of my (tardy) work here:http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com/2005/11/hobbling-through-to- finish-line.htmlSpeedvlogging?! pfft. I'm not built for it!! Seriously, what Enric and Markus could do in such a short time is beyond me right now. Hopefully I will get some practice and try this again soon ...Ted Tagamitagami.comUNIVERSUS makemedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Squeeze Remix Video Game Vlog Feed
Hello fellow vloggers, colaborators, experimenters, artists, comrades etc.. I have created a new feed for the Squeeze project. you can subscribe with this link: http://feeds.feedburner.com/squeezevideo What is the Squeeze project? Well, it all began about a year ago, when I made this post http://publicaddress.typepad.com/hello/2004/12/counting.html then my friend Charlene made a remix of it and then I made a remix of her video and so on and so forth. you can see a video of me explaining it at last years vlogger con here: http://publicaddress.typepad.com/mica_vcon.mov I have now archived all of the existing Squeeze videos and I invite you to join in and make your own. I will add them to the cue. A new remix appears each and every Monday until the video implodes on itself or twirls into infinity. I even made it its very own blog: http://publicaddress.typepad.com/squeeeze So, watch, enjoy, remix, play, vlog.. Thanks! m -- hello? http://www.micawave.tv http://www.micascalin.net Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
