Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
Ah, of course. One might find one thing incredible valuable, and another would not.On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If financial worth is equal to audience interest and that interest is subjective, is financial worth then subjective?On 12/1/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on who's interested, it's subjective. That gives community involvement more value. It's (ideally at least) a more tempered view. On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like your thinking Sull. Is worth based on interest? hmm... - TedOn 12/1/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if coke does a videoblog, i'd be happy to let it be listed in the vlogdir. i like coke.-- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/See what we are up to:http://mefeedia.com/blog/ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.com U N I V E R S U S YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlonhttp://mefeedia.com/See what we are up to:http://mefeedia.com/blog/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
And both determination of value can be objective to the different make up of those individuals. -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, of course. One might find one thing incredible valuable, and another would not. On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If financial worth is equal to audience interest and that interest is subjective, is financial worth then subjective? On 12/1/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on who's interested, it's subjective. That gives community involvement more value. It's (ideally at least) a more tempered view. On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like your thinking Sull. Is worth based on interest? hmm... - Ted On 12/1/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if coke does a videoblog, i'd be happy to let it be listed in the vlogdir. i like coke. -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
And those in control of the make up of an individual's make up (nature, nurture take your pick) are in control of the determination of value. And those with money and power may play a big role in one's make up, so they can feed thier own value. On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And both determination of value can be objective to the different make up of those individuals. -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, of course. One might find one thing incredible valuable, and another would not. On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If financial worth is equal to audience interest and that interest is subjective, is financial worth then subjective? On 12/1/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on who's interested, it's subjective. That gives community involvement more value. It's (ideally at least) a more tempered view. On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like your thinking Sull. Is worth based on interest? hmm... - Ted On 12/1/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if coke does a videoblog, i'd be happy to let it be listed in the vlogdir. i like coke. -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
Ok, it's late...that first part didn't make sense, but you know what I mean. On 12/2/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And those in control of the make up of an individual's make up (nature, nurture take your pick) are in control of the determination of value. And those with money and power may play a big role in one's make up, so they can feed thier own value. On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And both determination of value can be objective to the different make up of those individuals. -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human characteristics make it currently unlikely to precisely calculate worth for a large population. Another factor is that human beings are volitional and self-determined, therefore self-creating. So future predictions are likely to fail. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if financial worth (of videoblogs) is objective. That is, financial worth being something that is tangible, that actually exists. If this is true, then audience interest is objective (measurable). Moreover, a formula could then be established to determine the financial worth of any given videoblog. Hey, they tried this in a very crude way already with a Weblogs inspired calculator: http://www.business-opportunities.biz/projects/how-much-is-your-blog-worth/ In a round about way back to fizzy-sugar-water, if Coke produces a video that creates audience interest, a value for that audience can be established. No question about it, the IP space is a huge vacuum and Main Stream Media and Advertisers will be sucked into this space throughout 2006. The key for all of us Creatives out there is to keep a strong clear signal, and network. On 12/2/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, of course. One might find one thing incredible valuable, and another would not. On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If financial worth is equal to audience interest and that interest is subjective, is financial worth then subjective? On 12/1/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on who's interested, it's subjective. That gives community involvement more value. It's (ideally at least) a more tempered view. On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like your thinking Sull. Is worth based on interest? hmm... - Ted On 12/1/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if coke does a videoblog, i'd be happy to let it be listed in the vlogdir. i like coke. -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
Don't tell advertisers that ;)On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human characteristics make it currently unlikely to precisely calculate worth for a large population. Another factor is that human beings are volitional and self-determined, therefore self-creating. So future predictions are likely to fail. -- Enric -- ~Devlonhttp://mefeedia.com/See what we are up to:http://mefeedia.com/blog/ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
The smart ones know it and adjust to constant change ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't tell advertisers that ;) On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human characteristics make it currently unlikely to precisely calculate worth for a large population. Another factor is that human beings are volitional and self-determined, therefore self-creating. So future predictions are likely to fail. -- Enric -- ~Devlon http://mefeedia.com/ See what we are up to: http://mefeedia.com/blog/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: WARNING: Firefox 1.5 does not to scroll QT
Friday, December 2, 2005, 6:00:56 AM, Eric wrote: I'm a nazi and pushing those who view my vlog to update to Quicktime 7 and apply the fix with the plugins, I really like the new h264 codec, its very good. Don't forget that VLC ( http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ ) will play h264. It sometimes has problems on my system with some audio codecs, but h264 video itself now plays fine. Personally I avoid Quicktime as a player wherever possible. Quicktime (whatever version) seems not to care _at_all_ about keeping audio and video synchronized, and drifts into unusability within about 20-30 seconds. It's not a pure performance issue, as other players can handle much higher data rates on the same machine without problems. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
Friday, December 2, 2005, 6:42:08 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: My suggestion on the porn: Have a ratings system, so that everyone who submits a feed has to tag it rated G rated X or whatever. If a feed is rated X, replace any thumbnails with Adult Content or some such in a graphic. If someone clicks on an X-rated feed, make them go through a pop-up stating that they are over 18 (unless you start doing credit card verification - which I don't recommend - that's about the most protection you cna realistically offer). I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter. I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately or accidentally) mis-categorize something. The way the net seems to be going at the the moment is to use the power of the numbers. I'd suggest a system where anything can be tagged with anything by anybody, but certain tags are standardized/promoted and processed as specially significant. So even if the original submitter rates a piece as mild humour, many others might rate it as violent porn. Directories and aggregators could then make sensible decisions based on the weight of public opinion. Oh, and _please_ folks, let whatever system is developed apply tags/ratings to _individual_items_ rather than whole feeds. However tempting it may seem to simplify the problem by blocking/allowing a whole feed, in practice items in a feed vary wildly. Perhaps some sort of quarantine or moderation queue for feeds that have had items tagged with these kinds of attributes. That way worried readers/viewers can wait until more sturdy individuals have had a chance to look at stuff. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
yes it is part of life... but much of this discussion is related to kids encountering this stuff. I like to use this illustration in that regard. http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com/kiddyspam.jpg People find it irresponsible to create a picture like this, but then support who the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] cares if we see a dick type of attitude. Ironic. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rishey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you ask yourself why it is that you think people shouldn't see porn? Some of you make mention of 'self policing' the community? Do you realize what that sentence means? Don't we have enough policing? What is going to happen if you accidentally see a penis or a vagina? NOTHING. THese are distractions. THis is life. ANd to be wrapped up in the issue of what is decent and what is not is to be part of the problem. Hello- In a few decades the land your standing on could be underwater. Our world is at war based on complete deception and implemented by torture. Who the fuck cares if you see a goddamned dick? There are plenty of Owellian directories such as itunes which will remove such material. Itunes recently removed my insanefilms.com from their directory with no explanation. No censorship. If you are afraid to see penises, then subscribe to Rocketboom and watch nothing else. If you're talking about SPAM, however, that is another matter entirely. Richard Bluestein podshow.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
On 12/2/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter.I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately oraccidentally) mis-categorize something. Yes, of course, but... I don't think that any of the sites which purport to review everything before allowing it to be posted have set themselves a reasonable task. As video on the Internet explodes exponentially, no single group or company (except maybe Google) can afford the human resources to review that much footage. I'm assuming that the rest of your post advocates reactive tagging, where something would be reviewed only if flagged as nasty by someone. Which does seem the only sensible approach, as long as you don't get mischief-makers randomly tagging everything as rotten just to keep you busy. best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive
if that is the case, then what happens when sony gets mad at me for smashing one of there tvs and calling it crap. would that be a trade mark issue?? if im wearing a nike shirt does that make my video a tm issue?? if i do a video blog in my car and the radio has a song on is that a copy rite isue?? i think it should be like this she bought the doll. its hers. i liked the video randy averrycoollifeblog.blogspot.com From: Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:38:34 - I don't think the issue with Barbie is copyright. I think it's a trade mark issue. And trademarks a quite a bit different than copyright under the law. Under copyright (which is registered with the Library of Congress, in the US--although it needn't be to be legal) you own it no matter what unless you overtly give it up. Trademarks are different. Trademarks need to be protected to remain your property. So if someone starts to use your Trademark and you don't do due diligence to stop it, then the Trademark can cease to be your trademark and become a generic mark that anyone can use. Thus explains why companies so jealously guard against infringement of their trademark. Because under law if they don't they can loose them. So no doubt this was an issue of not just copyright but also of trademark. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I concede the point. I didn't know that infringement of Barbie's copyright would be the real issue. But, even on that level, I wonder if an argument couldn't be made for setting up some site in China or somewhere that was really free of copyright constraints. I understand people deserve to be paid for their work and what they own, etc. However, in this case, there was no financial gain being made. Barbie was being used to make a political statement (against men in my opinion) and therefore should be a legitimate target for parody like any celebrity. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Steve Watkins To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive Archive.org's aims to capture history do not mean they can afford to pretend their are no laws that may affect the content they can legally host. The internet would be very different today if all the laws in all countries were always followed to the letter. Clearly that doesnt happen, but responsible sites that dont want to lose all their money in court have to do some sort of risk assessment. In a case where theres already been legal action against a very similar type of video, I think its easy to see why they may of decided it wasnt worth it. A possible justification could go along the lines of 'would you rather us ditch a small part of history or have us lose the entire archive due to the cost of fighting lawsuits'? Of course all this is just speculation, I have no idea why that video actually was removed or the though processes behind the decision. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the Internet Archive that claims to be capturing the history of our day? Aren't sexual issues part of that history? It is really outrageous that they took your vlog off. And, I say that, as someone who doesn't fully agree with your viewpoint. Actually, I watched this vlog and I felt it treated men unfairly. It made me mad. That is good. Something that provokes you and challenges you to think is good whether you like it or not. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Aimee Buyea To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive well i guess my work on gender issues is a little too provocative. Dear Patron: You recently uploaded an item to one of our collections. Curators had to remove it, possibly due to one of the following reasons: -Rights status unclear -Rights status appears inappropriate for our collections -Inappropriate content (eg, pornography) -Uploader requested the removal -Item content was empty or broken
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Well I certainly agree that people should be allowed to put whatever content they so choose on their web site, filtered or not. My issue is with this spreading conventional wisdom that seems to state that we all have some inherent, deep, and fundamental responsiblity to sanitize what we can and firewall what we can't in abject terror of the remote possibility that some small child might stumble upon it. Certainly if some private directory or archive chooses not to include pornographic material (or any other kind) that is their perogative. But this sense that if one chooses not to do so they are in some way morally inferior is itself repugnant to me. And again the question of whether or not it's wise to conduct said parental filtering of the world for children is a whole other topic of discussion. And a can of worms probably best unopened. While I would agree that showing a 4-year-old Full Metal Jacket is on the gratuitous side, I think you equally do a disservice to one's (older) children by trying to shield them too much. After all, this world is a horrible, mean, petty, shallow, and opportunistic place that will chew you up, shred you, and spit you back out again for round two if you let down your guard. It's all well and good that we try to create a haven in our home that's as sheltered from that cruel reality as we can. But raising a kid in a cocoon and then thrusting them out, helpless and unprepared, to be bled dry by the world once they graduate from school doesn't seem like such a wise choice. -mOn 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you on that. I have never tried to protect my daughter, beyond giving her what words of wisdom I could from a very early age. We had a discussion about this in this group back in March, and I wrote about my attitude/solutions back then: http://beginningwithi.com/tech/kidsonline.html However, there are those who do feel responsible for what is seen on their site (not least because they could face legal liabilities), that's their choice as much as it's yours to do nothing to filter. On 12/2/05, Michael Ridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is - it is not my responsibility to filter my site (or my life in general) in the event that some child might happen upon it. There's this concept called parental responsibility. It's a doctrine which puts forth the concept that if you are going to have children, then that's an active exercise which requires full participation for approximately 16 to 18 years. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- -mhttp://www.secretelite.com/michael SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive
On 12/2/05, Randy Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if that is the case, then what happens when sony gets mad at me for smashing one of there tvs and calling it crap. would that be a trade mark issue?? No, although depending on your characterization if it as crap it may be slander or defamation if your comments are factually untrue. if im wearing a nike shirt does that make my video a tm issue?Depends on if a viewer of your video would construe that video to have been made or approved of by Nike as some sort of official communication. if i do a video blog in my car and the radio has a song on is that a copy rite isue??Yes it is.| i think it should be like this she bought the doll. its hers.Yeah unfortunately the law doesn't necessarily take common sense into account. -m i liked the video randy averrycoollifeblog.blogspot.com From: Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:38:34 - I don't think the issue with Barbie is copyright. I think it's a trade mark issue. And trademarks a quite a bit different than copyright under the law. Under copyright (which is registered with the Library of Congress, in the US--although it needn't be to be legal) you own it no matter what unless you overtly give it up. Trademarks are different. Trademarks need to be protected to remain your property. So if someone starts to use your Trademark and you don't do due diligence to stop it, then the Trademark can cease to be your trademark and become a generic mark that anyone can use. Thus explains why companies so jealously guard against infringement of their trademark. Because under law if they don't they can loose them. So no doubt this was an issue of not just copyright but also of trademark. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I concede the point. I didn't know that infringement of Barbie's copyright would be the real issue. But, even on that level, I wonder if an argument couldn't be made for setting up some site in China or somewhere that was really free of copyright constraints. I understand people deserve to be paid for their work and what they own, etc. However, in this case, there was no financial gain being made. Barbie was being used to make a political statement (against men in my opinion) and therefore should be a legitimate target for parody like any celebrity. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Steve Watkins To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive Archive.org's aims to capture history do not mean they can afford to pretend their are no laws that may affect the content they can legally host. The internet would be very different today if all the laws in all countries were always followed to the letter. Clearly that doesnt happen, but responsible sites that dont want to lose all their money in court have to do some sort of risk assessment. In a case where theres already been legal action against a very similar type of video, I think its easy to see why they may of decided it wasnt worth it. A possible justification could go along the lines of 'would you rather us ditch a small part of history or have us lose the entire archive due to the cost of fighting lawsuits'? Of course all this is just speculation, I have no idea why that video actually was removed or the though processes behind the decision. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the Internet Archive that claims to be capturing the history of our day? Aren't sexual issues part of that history? It is really outrageous that they took your vlog off. And, I say that, as someone who doesn't fully agree with your viewpoint. Actually, I watched this vlog and I felt it treated men unfairly. It made me mad. That is good. Something that provokes you and challenges you to think is good whether you like it or not. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Aimee Buyea To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive well i guess my work on gender issues is a little too provocative. Dear Patron: You recently uploaded an item to one of our collections. Curators had to remove it, possibly
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba On 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/2/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter. I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately or accidentally) mis-categorize something. Yes, of course, but... I don't think that any of the sites which purport to review everything before allowing it to be posted have set themselves a reasonable task. As video on the Internet explodes exponentially, no single group or company (except maybe Google) can afford the human resources to review that much footage. I'm assuming that the rest of your post advocates reactive tagging, where something would be reviewed only if flagged as nasty by someone. Which does seem the only sensible approach, as long as you don't get mischief-makers randomly tagging everything as rotten just to keep you busy. best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://duller.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
On 12/2/05, Wong Teck Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba I've never heard of NetIBA before (just looked it up), which may or may not prove anything. But, for a business with money behind it, there is incentive to pay for something like that. Most vloggers, whether or not they would actively resist such an authority, certainly wouldn't be inclined to pay for it.-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: camcorder to hard drive
Yeah there are a few options for this. There are some products that are camera mounted direct to disk hard drives. They're kind of expensive, at least the ones I've seen at BH photo. There is a budget way of doing this. You can capture direct to a laptop HD via firewire. I don't know what options there are to do this on a Mac but you can do it via Final Cut Pro or Express or iMovie on a mac very easily. This is a great option for stationary or studio work but not so good if you need the camera to be mobile. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, DrLinton Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those Video Gurus out there - I have a question Is there a camcorder that you can be shooting and at the same time it saves to an external hard drive rather than tape? A 3 chip version would be a preference, but one that can be recording action and also saving it to a hard drive would be perfect! Thanks in advance With friendly greetings, Linton Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] chinese ourmedia?
someone said this site: http://www.toodou.com/index.html was a user-generated video site. anyone know chinese? fact checking. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
perhaps someone's willing to do sth like vlog-monitor? On 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/2/05, Wong Teck Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba I've never heard of NetIBA before (just looked it up), which may or may not prove anything. But, for a business with money behind it, there is incentive to pay for something like that. Most vloggers, whether or not they would actively resist such an authority, certainly wouldn't be inclined to pay for it. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://duller.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: camcorder to hard drive
Bill's suggestion is a good one. Just to add, you can capture with QT Pro 7 as well -- unsure if it works on Windows. On 12/2/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah there are a few options for this. There are some products that are camera mounted direct to disk hard drives. They're kind of expensive, at least the ones I've seen at BH photo. There is a budget way of doing this. You can capture direct to a laptop HD via firewire. I don't know what options there are to do this on a Mac but you can do it via Final Cut Pro or Express or iMovie on a mac very easily. This is a great option for stationary or studio work but not so good if you need the camera to be mobile. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, DrLinton Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those Video Gurus out there - I have a question Is there a camcorder that you can be shooting and at the same time it saves to an external hard drive rather than tape? A 3 chip version would be a preference, but one that can be recording action and also saving it to a hard drive would be perfect! Thanks in advance With friendly greetings, Linton Yahoo! Groups Links -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: WARNING: Firefox 1.5 does not to scroll QT
Interestingly I've had this problem more with Win Media than Quicktime. But then again I'm usually using a Mac. I'm guessing your experience is with Quicktime on Windows? I've not experienced this problem with QT on windows but I have had it with both VLC and Win Media Player. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friday, December 2, 2005, 6:00:56 AM, Eric wrote: I'm a nazi and pushing those who view my vlog to update to Quicktime 7 and apply the fix with the plugins, I really like the new h264 codec, its very good. Don't forget that VLC ( http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ ) will play h264. It sometimes has problems on my system with some audio codecs, but h264 video itself now plays fine. Personally I avoid Quicktime as a player wherever possible. Quicktime (whatever version) seems not to care _at_all_ about keeping audio and video synchronized, and drifts into unusability within about 20-30 seconds. It's not a pure performance issue, as other players can handle much higher data rates on the same machine without problems. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia?
it's kinda famous in china.. it's for both vlog and podcast it's only have 100mb with p2p transfer On 12/2/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone said this site: http://www.toodou.com/index.html was a user-generated video site. anyone know chinese? fact checking. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://duller.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: camcorder to hard drive
Sorry I meant to say below that I'm not aware of how to do this on a PC, I obviously know how to do it on a Mac, Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah there are a few options for this. There are some products that are camera mounted direct to disk hard drives. They're kind of expensive, at least the ones I've seen at BH photo. There is a budget way of doing this. You can capture direct to a laptop HD via firewire. I don't know what options there are to do this on a Mac but you can do it via Final Cut Pro or Express or iMovie on a mac very easily. This is a great option for stationary or studio work but not so good if you need the camera to be mobile. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, DrLinton Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those Video Gurus out there - I have a question Is there a camcorder that you can be shooting and at the same time it saves to an external hard drive rather than tape? A 3 chip version would be a preference, but one that can be recording action and also saving it to a hard drive would be perfect! Thanks in advance With friendly greetings, Linton Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: camcorder to hard drive
all you need to do (on a mac atleast) with FCP is go into your capture settings, within log and capture, and change device control to "non-controllable" device. this avoids final cut looking for timecode from a tape. "capture now" begins loading material live to you're hard drive. which is nice.-dl--http://pouringdown.blogspot.com/http://mookievlog.blogspot.com/On Dec 2, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Bill Streeter wrote: Yeah there are a few options for this. There are some products that are camera mounted direct to disk hard drives. They're kind of expensive, at least the ones I've seen at BH photo. There is a budget way of doing this. You can capture direct to a laptop HD via firewire. I don't know what options there are to do this on a Mac but you can do it via Final Cut Pro or Express or iMovie on a mac very easily. This is a great option for stationary or studio work but not so good if you need the camera to be mobile. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, DrLinton Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those Video Gurus out there - I have a question Is there a camcorder that you can be shooting and at the same time it saves to an external hard drive rather than tape? A 3 chip version would be a preference, but one that can be recording action and also saving it to a hard drive would be perfect!Thanks in advanceWith friendly greetings, LintonYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: WARNING: Firefox 1.5 does not to scroll QT
Firefox Boycott!!Embargo on!On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:35 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: thats right, the vlogtron exists. hey chuck... wheres chuck? he's the head.On 12/2/05, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:are we forming voltron (or would that be vlogtron..)??! I didn't get the memo :/I've had perpetual issues with any vid + firefox when scrolling forawhile.. window blacks out, etc etc. I've kinda learned to not touch mybrowser when viewing :)Michael Sullivan wrote: this sucks!! vloggers unite! On 12/1/05, *Michael Meiser* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll confirm that on a mac. I get the exact same problem. Running the latest 10.4, the latest QT and the latest Firefox 1.5. -Mike On Dec 1, 2005, at 5:15 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Both Josh and Andrew have confirmed the same bug. I just downloaded FF1.5 on my WinXP box and it does not have the same problem. Looks like it is only Mac. I'm running Quicktime 7.0.3. I've never submitted anything to Bugzilla, but this is an unacceptable issue. It marks the first time I've ever experienced a negative feeling toward Firefox. To make things worse, I highly doubt they'd come out with an update to fix a QT issue on the Mac. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/1/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yup, I just experienced this on this web site: http://www.bravia-advert.com/commercial/braviaextcommhigh.html That page works for me with FF 1.5 and QT 7.3. Are you using the same version of Quicktime? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Yahoo! Groups Links mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging" on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Unsubscribe * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. --Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC51 W. Third Street, #301Tempe, AZ 85281(602) 885-2295 - Mobile(480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: What editing software?
Wish there was a way you could get QT Pro7 on disk from a store. But I guess all that would be would be a wish..cuz it ain't happenin'. (and if they do sell it at an apple store..that must be nice but WE don't have an apple store in my area)- -- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gena talks about the difficulty of downloading software. I admit that getting it that way is faster and sometimes cheaper. However, isn't there a good argument for getting it on a disk so you have it to re-install if your computer crashes? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Ronen To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: What editing software? I tried Ulead for a few weeks. Try Vegas. On 11/29/05, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried both Adobe Premire Elements and Ulead Studio 9, I liked the look of APE and I had previous experience with traditional editing so I got the hang of it right away. If I had never done video editing before and was stepping up from WMM2 I would suggest Ulead. It has a lot of features for the money and overall it does a good job. However, They have a free MP4 plug-in for the program. It takes forever to get access to download it and then you spend time in perdition trying to actually download the sucker. It took weeks and a 4:30am download to get it. I installed it but it doesn't work. I use QT instead. But the main part of the program works really well. Can't go wrong with either one of them - try before you buy. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joan Khoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys! I was just wondering what video editing software do you use and what do you think of it. Cheers Joan http://rantingsofjoan.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia?
it's kinda famous in china.. it's for both vlog and podcast it's only have 100mb with p2p transfer cool! so can you give any background-- how long has it been up? do many people post? what kinds of work are people posting? is podcasting and videoblogging well known inside china? Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What editing software?
any free software? On 12/2/05, Crystal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wish there was a way you could get QT Pro7 on disk from a store. But I guess all that would be would be a wish..cuz it ain't happenin'. (and if they do sell it at an apple store..that must be nice but WE don't have an apple store in my area)- -- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gena talks about the difficulty of downloading software. I admit that getting it that way is faster and sometimes cheaper. However, isn't there a good argument for getting it on a disk so you have it to re-install if your computer crashes? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Ronen To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: What editing software? I tried Ulead for a few weeks. Try Vegas. On 11/29/05, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried both Adobe Premire Elements and Ulead Studio 9, I liked the look of APE and I had previous experience with traditional editing so I got the hang of it right away. If I had never done video editing before and was stepping up from WMM2 I would suggest Ulead. It has a lot of features for the money and overall it does a good job. However, They have a free MP4 plug-in for the program. It takes forever to get access to download it and then you spend time in perdition trying to actually download the sucker. It took weeks and a 4:30am download to get it. I installed it but it doesn't work. I use QT instead. But the main part of the program works really well. Can't go wrong with either one of them - try before you buy. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joan Khoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys! I was just wondering what video editing software do you use and what do you think of it. Cheers Joan http://rantingsofjoan.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://duller.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: WARNING: Firefox 1.5 does not to scroll QT
well, lets assume its a bug and we need a vlog horde to report it.its def fine on windows... so as others said, looks to be just mac related. On 12/2/05, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox Boycott!!Embargo on!On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:35 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: thats right, the vlogtron exists. hey chuck... wheres chuck? he's the head.On 12/2/05, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:are we forming voltron (or would that be vlogtron..)??! I didn't get the memo :/I've had perpetual issues with any vid + firefox when scrolling forawhile.. window blacks out, etc etc. I've kinda learned to not touch mybrowser when viewing :)Michael Sullivan wrote: this sucks!! vloggers unite! On 12/1/05, *Michael Meiser* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll confirm that on a mac. I get the exact same problem. Running the latest 10.4, the latest QT and the latest Firefox 1.5. -Mike On Dec 1, 2005, at 5:15 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Both Josh and Andrew have confirmed the same bug.I just downloaded FF1.5 on my WinXP box and it does not have the same problem. Looks like it is only Mac.I'm running Quicktime 7.0.3. I've never submitted anything to Bugzilla, but this is an unacceptable issue.It marks the first time I've ever experienced a negative feeling toward Firefox. To make things worse, I highly doubt they'd come out with an update to fix a QT issue on the Mac. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/1/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yup, I just experienced this on this web site: http://www.bravia-advert.com/commercial/braviaextcommhigh.html That page works for me with FF 1.5 and QT 7.3. Are you using the same version of Quicktime? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Yahoo! Groups Links mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?subject=Unsubscribe *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. --Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC51 W. Third Street, #301Tempe, AZ 85281(602) 885-2295 - Mobile(480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting /
Re: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia?
background:toodou has been up since april of 2005currently its members have reach -unknown-anyway, they have more than 13,000 channels now and increasing rapidly for both memebrs and channelseveryone can be members, Everyone can be director is the slogan they're using to promote their service... like blogger, everyone can have several 'channel' and each channel are given 100 mb. users are encouraged to use p2p software to lol... i'm not from china so i'm not very sure how popular about that.. but one thing i'm sure is podcast is more pop than vlog in china... what's more concern by china blogger/podcaster/vlogger is the revenue they can makeyou may refer to http://www.toodou.com/about/moreinfo.php On 12/2/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's kinda famous in china.. it's for both vlog and podcast it's only have 100mb with p2p transfer cool! so can you give any background-- how long has it been up? do many people post? what kinds of work are people posting? is podcasting and videoblogging well known inside china? Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- http://duller.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Vlog porn - my fix for now: comments?
Hi all, so I implemented a fix (it's not live yet, but will be next week). Here are some screenshots: http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373519/ http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373437/ http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373386 What it does is put a 'parental advisory thumbnail on feeds that we have flagged as porn (it is surprisingly easy to catch most porn feeds and flag them manually). If you subscribe to this feed or queue its videos, you get the real thumbnails. This addresses the problem of innocently browsing Mefeedia and seeing pictures that can be fairly heavy, especially before breakfast. It doesn't censor any feeds in any way apart from just not showing the picture - you can still subscribe to the feeds, watch videos. If you want to. But it does make browsing videoblogs a nicer experience, and de-emphasizes the inevitable porn feeds. Of course this is just my first stab at fixing the problem, and this approach will evolve over the coming months and years. What do you guys and girls think about this approach for now? Does it work? Does it address your concerns? Would you show Mefeedia to your kids/students as a place to find videoblogs? Cheers, Peter -- http://mefeedia.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV?
I just watched "Episode #8 - Windows Version" on my Mac (by mistake). These shows have both windows and iPod versions. They have professional looking graphics. They seem to have access to some of the rock stars. Are these productions of entertainment want-to-be's ? Or are they slick promotional vehicles for big time music producers? Obviously, they have invested time, professional skills and money into producing them. However, they have a "creative commons license" And, regarding this last episode, which features a rock singer performing while several scantily-clad sexy youngwomen kick a middle-aged slob restrained on the floor, does that "creative commons" license give any real rights to the snippets of the banned music video? Another show that also looks like it might be a slick promotion for an existing cable channel is Tech TV. Could anyone fill me in on this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
petertheman wrote: Hey Jay, yes, I noticed it as well. It was inevitable, I am actually surprised it took this long.. Any comments? Well, it's sad, but as a directory, I suppose it's something you have to deal with. Some ideas... I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned, 'adult' doesn't always mean X, etc. Perhaps following the iTunes model of marking things as 'mature' or 'explicit' or whatever might work. For people not logged in, I would filter out all 'mature' content. For people who are logged in, provide a checkbox for whether they want 'mature' content displayed to them or not. Don't the various search engines do something similar with the results they display? There's a distinction between 'porn' and 'kid-safe' - I mean, if it's a video of someone fully clothed, screaming obscenities and being violent, it's probably not something I want my kids to see. (And I *definitely* don't want them seeing porn.) I've noticed a few podcasters will often note in the beginning of their podcast if it's 'not safe for work' which usually means it contains obscenities or mature subject matter. Could videobloggers do the same? I know that I'm sometimes not even sure if I should want videos in FireANT when my kids are in the room. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Vlog porn - my fix for now: comments?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, so I implemented a fix (it's not live yet, but will be next week). Here are some screenshots: http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373519/ http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373437/ http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69373386 What it does is put a 'parental advisory thumbnail on feeds that we have flagged as porn (it is surprisingly easy to catch most porn feeds and flag them manually). If you subscribe to this feed or queue its videos, you get the real thumbnails. This addresses the problem of innocently browsing Mefeedia and seeing pictures that can be fairly heavy, especially before breakfast. It doesn't censor any feeds in any way apart from just not showing the picture - you can still subscribe to the feeds, watch videos. If you want to. But it does make browsing videoblogs a nicer experience, and de-emphasizes the inevitable porn feeds. Of course this is just my first stab at fixing the problem, and this approach will evolve over the coming months and years. What do you guys and girls think about this approach for now? Does it work? Does it address your concerns? Would you show Mefeedia to your kids/students as a place to find videoblogs? Cheers, Peter -- http://mefeedia.com What about the text descriptions? -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia?? - Porn on blogtelevision too
I have to say I feel concerned about the free distribution of adult and violent videos by individuals, versus the law-abiding, lawyer- retaining mainstream producers who have to keep on file documents regarding the actor's age, animal welfare, explosives permits, etc. So my question is; How do we know that the person(s) in the submitted videos are adult-consenting actors, or if they're possibly actual victims of a crime or abuse? you dont. its the internet, a free exchange of everything. bad things will show up. there is darkness. several years ago, there was a site called bumfights.com...where you could buy a DVD of homeless alcoholics and crackheads doing crazy shit in order to feed their addiction. pulling out their own teeth, getting tattoos on their forehead, taking a shit in the middle of a busy street. it was filmed by some SoCal skaters. They sold thousands of DVD;s. and then they got sued by activist lawyers on behalf of the homeless guys. but the site is still up. bumfights.com. i guess they won the court case. should there be laws against having this on the web? no. so much more good comes from this unfettered, unformatted playground as well. there are already plenty of laws in the world that keep people safe. we can use those. we dont need different laws for the internet to curb people's behavior. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: WARNING: Firefox 1.5 does not to scroll QT
Brad Webb wrote: are we forming voltron (or would that be vlogtron..)??! I didn't get the memo :/ I've had perpetual issues with any vid + firefox when scrolling for awhile.. window blacks out, etc etc. I've kinda learned to not touch my browser when viewing :) Yeah, I have somewhat similar experiences. Of course I'm running on a 4+ year old Mac. I'll let you know how it goes after I upgrade it next week. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Bad internet archive URLs
I've added some code to Mefeedia to check for bad internet archive URLs and provide fixes for the vloggers. It'll be out next week, here's a screenshot of a feeds details page: http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69379495/ and http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69379752/ (Michael, those are yours!) So if you're not sure you might have used some bad Archive URLs in the past (most people have), next week when this is live go check your details page. (or you can go to the beta site today, I'm sure you can figure out the URL ;) Peter (sorry for the spam, I am just going crazy with Flickr today..) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Vlog porn - my fix for now: comments?
What about the text descriptions? The text descriptions are still there.. the idea isn't to remove any porn feeds... it's to make it less offensive to browse mefeedia. I don't want to censor anything at this point. Peter Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
" On 12/2/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter. I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately or accidentally) mis-categorize something." I suspect we are going to soon have questions of "legal responsibility" arising with those who host free posting sites. Are they responsible for libelous, obscene or criminal material published on thier site? Would stated guidelines (i.e"Those using our services are expected to obey and respect all laws.") be a defense? Or would they be responsible for removing something only after a complaint was filed and it was brought to their attention? I think "leaving categorizing to the submitter" would work if guidelines said "works considered to be adult in nature" should be so labeled. Works containing overt sexuality and/or nudity should also be labeled, etc. I've seen sites where you have to declare you are over eighteen years of age to enter and view. Wouldn't such techniques work with saucy vlogs? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Wong Teck Jung To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia?? we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netibaOn 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/2/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter. I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately or accidentally) mis-categorize something. Yes, of course, but... I don't think that any of the sites which purport to review everything before allowing it to be posted have set themselves a reasonable task. As video on the Internet explodes exponentially, no single group or company (except maybe Google) can afford the human resources to review that much footage. I'm assuming that the rest of your post advocates "reactive" tagging, where something would be reviewed only if flagged as nasty by someone. Which does seem the only sensible approach, as long as you don't get mischief-makers randomly tagging everything as rotten just to keep you busy. best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --http://duller.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Public Radio Video Blogging Discussion
Tomorrow at 10am(PST), I will be talking with radio personality Chris Goldstein on Active Voice Radio about Video Blogging. Active Voice Radio www.activevoiceradio.com The 45 minute show will also be broadcast at 6:30PM on 90.7FM KSFR Santa Fe Public Radio www.ksfr.org The podcast URL will be posted in the groups link list and at view- point.blogspot.com ASAP. Today, I'm creating a Topics of Discussion List that Chris can refer to during our discussion: Video Blogging - Past, Present, Future Citizen Journalism Creditability How To Get Started Equipment and tools Resources (Yahoo Group) Who Is Video Blogging Who Is Watching Video Blogs Video Blogging Opportunities Where Are Video Bloggers Video Blogs: Examples Daily Video Blogs Mobile Access - Anytime, Anywhere VOD Long Distance Learning Class On Video Blogging What else should be on the list? -Jack http://view-point.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned, 'adult' doesn't always mean X, etc. Perhaps following the iTunes model of marking things as 'mature' or 'explicit' or whatever might work. For people not logged in, I would filter out all 'mature' content. For people who are logged in, provide a checkbox for whether they want 'mature' content displayed to them or not. Don't the various search engines do something similar with the results they display? Good ideas. I am taking the light approach here: take it easy on the fixes. Step by step. In a month or two, I am sure we'll add some more features. There's a distinction between 'porn' and 'kid-safe' yes. The kidsafe tag is a good example: http://mefeedia.com/tags/kidsafe know that I'm sometimes not even sure if I should want videos in FireANT when my kids are in the room. Yep. It's a complex issue. I just want to make sure we provide solutions that scale and that work, but don't censor. There is enough censorship out there. Peter Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:25:09 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or traditional companies will start making feeds with bascially advertisements. youll have literally hundreds of feeds because every business must have a voice. Not all company (video)blogs are evil. How will i know to find Human Dog if its surrounding by commercials and crap? You can always try humandog.com without the dash (kids: it's not safe for work). anyone with a brian knows that insanefilms.com is not a porn vloghe just happened to film a gang bang audition once for a school project. (look in the archive. its pretty amazing) They have... auditions...? - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Public Radio Video Blogging Discussion
Art, community,activism, Loiez Le 2 déc. 05 à 16:48, Jack Olmsted a écrit : What else should be on the list? -Jack Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV?
Share is a member of this group. Why don't you ask her directly? Randolfe Wicker wrote: I just watched "Episode #8 - Windows Version" on my Mac (by mistake). These shows have both windows and iPod versions. They have professional looking graphics. They seem to have access to some of the rock stars. Are these productions of entertainment want-to-be's ? Or are they slick promotional vehicles for big time music producers? Obviously, they have invested time, professional skills and money into producing them. However, they have a "creative commons license" And, regarding this last episode, which features a rock singer performing while several scantily-clad sexy young women kick a middle-aged slob restrained on the floor, does that "creative commons" license give any real rights to the snippets of the banned music video? Another show that also looks like it might be a slick promotion for an existing cable channel is Tech TV. Could anyone fill me in on this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Not all company (video)blogs are evil. im not making a judgement on the products...i just dont want my time hijacked by watching commercials. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Vlog porn - my fix for now: comments?
petertheman wrote: What it does is put a 'parental advisory thumbnail on feeds that we have flagged as porn (it is surprisingly easy to catch most porn feeds and flag them manually). If you subscribe to this feed or queue its videos, you get the real thumbnails. Of course this is just my first stab at fixing the problem, and this approach will evolve over the coming months and years. What do you guys and girls think about this approach for now? Does it work? Does it address your concerns? Would you show Mefeedia to your kids/students as a place to find videoblogs? Nice quick solution for now. Works for me... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
thanks... and yeah I agree - censoring is prob the wrong way to go. be more innovative and yes, proactive, and prob have better success.if its easy to find the content geared for children, then the chances of them browsing the directory and seeing adult content is greatly reduced, generally speaking. sullOn 12/2/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kid friendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adult content within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe video content which could be many things and is up to the directory curators to decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section on the site geared for children education and entertainment etc, then this could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive.eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids.http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out.see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory.itll come as content grows.im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating.everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
hmm.. and its sorta like a video rental store in that way ;)On 12/2/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:thanks... and yeah I agree - censoring is prob the wrong way to go. be more innovative and yes, proactive, and prob have better success. if its easy to find the content geared for children, then the chances of them browsing the directory and seeing adult content is greatly reduced, generally speaking. sullOn 12/2/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kid friendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adult content within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe video content which could be many things and is up to the directory curators to decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section on the site geared for children education and entertainment etc, then this could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive.eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out.see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory.itll come as content grows.im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating.everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog
Happy Friday everyone, Just saw a link in my referrer log from Yahoo! It lead me to the Yahoo! Video Search results page for a search for 'vlog' http://tinyurl.com/d56m7 or http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?_adv_prop=videoa mp;x=opei=UTF-8va=vlogfmt=mpegfmt=qt ;sz=alldur=allvst=0vm=p The interesting thing is that the Yahoo! results page allows you to play my video directly AND it uses frames to display the original source page. Just wanted to mention it in case you haven't seen how this works. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
petertheman wrote: know that I'm sometimes not even sure if I should want videos in FireANT when my kids are in the room. Yep. It's a complex issue. I just want to make sure we provide solutions that scale and that work, but don't censor. There is enough censorship out there. Agreed. I'm in favor of free-speech, and against censorship. I see this more as a matter of classifying content, which is what people seem to always suggest they want anyway, and why tagging has gotten so big in 2005. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: WARNING: Firefox 1.5 does not to scroll QT
Its very simple to report the bug:Just navigate to your site (or a site in question with a QT embed object).Pull down the "help" menu from Firefox.Select "Report a broken Website"And fill out the simple form.On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: well, lets assume its a bug and we need a vlog horde to report it.its def fine on windows... so as others said, looks to be just mac related. On 12/2/05, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox Boycott!!Embargo on!On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:35 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: thats right, the vlogtron exists. hey chuck... wheres chuck? he's the head.On 12/2/05, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:are we forming voltron (or would that be vlogtron..)??! I didn't get the memo :/I've had perpetual issues with any vid + firefox when scrolling forawhile.. window blacks out, etc etc. I've kinda learned to not touch mybrowser when viewing :)Michael Sullivan wrote: this sucks!! vloggers unite! On 12/1/05, *Michael Meiser* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll confirm that on a mac. I get the exact same problem. Running the latest 10.4, the latest QT and the latest Firefox 1.5. -Mike On Dec 1, 2005, at 5:15 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Both Josh and Andrew have confirmed the same bug. I just downloaded FF1.5 on my WinXP box and it does not have the same problem. Looks like it is only Mac. I'm running Quicktime 7.0.3. I've never submitted anything to Bugzilla, but this is an unacceptable issue. It marks the first time I've ever experienced a negative feeling toward Firefox. To make things worse, I highly doubt they'd come out with an update to fix a QT issue on the Mac. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/1/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yup, I just experienced this on this web site: http://www.bravia-advert.com/commercial/braviaextcommhigh.html That page works for me with FF 1.5 and QT 7.3. Are you using the same version of Quicktime? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Yahoo! Groups Links mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging" on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?subject=Unsubscribe * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. --Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC51 W. Third Street, #301Tempe, AZ 85281(602) 885-2295 - Mobile(480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKSIndividual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging " on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group,
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Jay dedman wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kid friendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adult content within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe video content which could be many things and is up to the directory curators to decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section on the site geared for children education and entertainment etc, then this could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive. eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out. see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory. itll come as content grows. im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating. everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Well, we already have yahooligans.yahoo.com, what about kids.mefeedia.com? :) It would be cool to be able to point kids to a videoblogging directory and let them explore what's there. Sometimes the most creative stuff comes from kids and the way they look at the world. You know, before the reality of it all crushes their spirit and makes them just another cog in the corporate machine that is today's society. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:20:18 +0100, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The interesting thing is that the Yahoo! results page allows you to play my video directly AND it uses frames to display the original source page. Very similar to Google's image search. I really like this approach. Of course they could just get rid of the top frame and link to the blog post without loosing much. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] amazing multilingual overlays on the soundtracks!!
It is interesting. I guess our ears listen to the language we understand while buffering out the language we don't. Actually, this is better than not being to understand what someone is saying. Nevertheless, the other language bouncing around in the background is somewhat annoying. What I wonder about is whether watching a lot of video like this would slowly enable you to learn the other language? That would be worth studying. A lot of Spanish-speaking immigrants used to learn English by watching movies with spokenEnglish and Spanish subtitles. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: chrlshogan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: [videoblogging] amazing multilingual overlays on the soundtracks!! hey guys,I wasn't reviewing some of my users work at our media, and spotted a new use for soundtracks. The technique was developed by language teacher in Oklahoma. He just posted one of these video blogs in our media the other day. I think this would be a boon to international business and may possibly become a standard for international video blogging. Check it out.http://www.ourmedia.org/node/109177The way he does, this is amazing. It's like being able to hear and understand both languages at the same time. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, vlogdirty is really a great name! If only I were a pornographer...:) Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 It's never too late. ;), Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media - Original Message - From: Michael Sullivan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia?? i think i will setup a new section called vlogdirty... the porn room. ;-) sull On 12/1/05, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont want to. In order to gain a lasting trust with the users of your system, however, I think it would be important for you to provide a rating system for adult content. Its not just for kids - I would like to see an alert that gave me a chance to know that a video was porn or violent BEFORE I discovered that from watching it. I have seen so many disturbing war killings and violent sex acts recently via sites like del.icio.us and blogdigger that I really do feel changed in a negative way and if asked, I would have declined the opportunity to see them. It's as if I have lived through a generation of global psychological tragedy in a single season. Andrew, that's a really valuable comment, thanks. I will work on it. We want videoblogging to be a positive experience, and limiting exposure to certain types of video (without censoring) is a part of that. I agree with that. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] amazing multilingual overlays on the soundtracks!!
i think this is ridiculous, personally.On 12/2/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is interesting. I guess our ears listen to the language we understand while buffering out the language we don't. Actually, this is better than not being to understand what someone is saying. Nevertheless, the other language bouncing around in the background is somewhat annoying. What I wonder about is whether watching a lot of video like this would slowly enable you to learn the other language? That would be worth studying. A lot of Spanish-speaking immigrants used to learn English by watching movies with spokenEnglish and Spanish subtitles. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: chrlshogan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: [videoblogging] amazing multilingual overlays on the soundtracks!! hey guys,I wasn't reviewing some of my users work at our media, and spotted a new use for soundtracks. The technique was developed by language teacher in Oklahoma. He just posted one of these video blogs in our media the other day. I think this would be a boon to international business and may possibly become a standard for international video blogging. Check it out.http://www.ourmedia.org/node/109177 The way he does, this is amazing. It's like being able to hear and understand both languages at the same time. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Of course it will. In the same way that the kids section of Blockbuster interests parents. There seems to be this view in our culture lately that kids are like little grownups and they just go and do whatever they want and so society has to protect them. That perspective is...not even wrong..it's just non-sensical. Parents make the rules. Parents enforce the limits. If there is a kids section of a web site, then presumably that's what the parents would sit down and look at with their children. Just like parents will steer their children to the kids section of the video store. It's not like parents just let their young children loose out in the world and let them wander around XXX movie theatres all day long. Perhaps some parents DO do that, but that's not my problem - that's their problem for being bad parents. And I'm pretty sure that if you have a 4 year old wandering around the red light district trying to get into peep shows, having a law requiring the establishment to card them and not let them in is probably not going to put that kid back on the right path and keep them from car jacking me in 10 years. They're probably well on that path already due to very poor parenting. -mOn 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kid friendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adult content within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe video content which could be many things and is up to the directory curators to decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section on the site geared for children education and entertainment etc, then this could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive. eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out. see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory. itll come as content grows. im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating. everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Well, we already have yahooligans.yahoo.com, what about kids.mefeedia.com? :) It would be cool to be able to point kids to a videoblogging directory and let them explore what's there. Sometimes the most creative stuff comes from kids and the way they look at the world. You know, before the reality of it all crushes their spirit and makes them just another cog in the corporate machine that is today's society. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... I remember when I was a kid I didn't want to read books for children but those adults thought were important. I think I kids section will interest parents mostly. -- Enric SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- -mhttp://www.secretelite.com/michael YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Is there a correlation between a child going to a peep show and turning into a thief later? Don't laws already prohibit adult establishments from allowing minors in? Aren't they already zoned in cities? Should those laws be eliminated because they restrict the choices and/or availablity of adults? -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Ridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it will. In the same way that the kids section of Blockbuster interests parents. There seems to be this view in our culture lately that kids are like little grownups and they just go and do whatever they want and so society has to protect them. That perspective is...not even wrong..it's just non-sensical. Parents make the rules. Parents enforce the limits. If there is a kids section of a web site, then presumably that's what the parents would sit down and look at with their children. Just like parents will steer their children to the kids section of the video store. It's not like parents just let their young children loose out in the world and let them wander around XXX movie theatres all day long. Perhaps some parents DO do that, but that's not my problem - that's their problem for being bad parents. And I'm pretty sure that if you have a 4 year old wandering around the red light district trying to get into peep shows, having a law requiring the establishment to card them and not let them in is probably not going to put that kid back on the right path and keep them from car jacking me in 10 years. They're probably well on that path already due to very poor parenting. -m On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kid friendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adult content within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe video content which could be many things and is up to the directory curators to decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section on the site geared for children education and entertainment etc, then this could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive. eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out. see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory. itll come as content grows. im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating. everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Well, we already have yahooligans.yahoo.com, what about kids.mefeedia.com? :) It would be cool to be able to point kids to a videoblogging directory and let them explore what's there. Sometimes the most creative stuff comes from kids and the way they look at the world. You know, before the reality of it all crushes their spirit and makes them just another cog in the corporate machine that is today's society. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... I remember when I was a kid I didn't want to read books for children but those adults thought were important. I think I kids section will interest parents mostly. -- Enric SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- -m http://www.secretelite.com/michael Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
the kid can also google porn and BOOYA!!of course some kids may be a little too curious too soon...but we should discuss the issue broadly and generalize, knowing that their are always exceptions.no solution will ever be perfect. On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kidfriendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adultcontent within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe videocontent which could be many things and is up to the directory curatorsto decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section onthe site geared for children education and entertainment etc, thenthis could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive. eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out. see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory. itll come as content grows. im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating. everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Well, we already have yahooligans.yahoo.com, what about kids.mefeedia.com? :) It would be cool to be able to point kids to a videoblogging directory and let them explore what's there. Sometimes the most creative stuff comes from kids and the way they look at the world. You know, before the reality of it all crushes their spirit and makes them just another cog in the corporate machine that is today's society. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future...I remember when I was a kid I didn't want to read books for childrenbut those adults thought were important.I think I kids section will interest parents mostly.-- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: my mom is a videoblogger!
ok i don't know if this is fixed i viewed the source of this feed http://feeds.feedburner.com/OnTheRoadToRuin and i don't see that video as an enclosure will the next post be correct? i've never had this problem with feedburner before having to choose itunes catagories for enclosures to be recognized -ry On 12/1/05, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think i fixed it i added some itunes catagories and marked it ok for all audiences will that fix it? i should know this stuff huh? -ry On 12/1/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan wrote: Ryanne-- Mom's RSS feed doesn't seem to be working right... my itunes didn't like it... As always, the feedvalidator.org works wonders! URL:http://feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.feedburner.com%2FOnTheRoadToRuin ERROR: Missing recommended iTunes channel element: itunes:category http://feedvalidator.org/docs/warning/MissingItunesElement.html Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links -- me: http://ryanedit.blogspot.com educate in person: http://nyc.node101.org educate online: http://freevlog.org videos i want you to see: http://revlog.blogspot.com -- me: http://ryanedit.blogspot.com educate in person: http://nyc.node101.org educate online: http://freevlog.org videos i want you to see: http://revlog.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the kid can also google porn and BOOYA!! of course some kids may be a little too curious too soon... but we should discuss the issue broadly and generalize, knowing that their are always exceptions. no solution will ever be perfect. Definately, it's usually a mistake to wait until a perfect solution is constructed; you miss on things like HTML, RSS, OPML, etc. I think it's also an error to see sex as a all or nothing proposition: either it's completely available and al is allowed or completely restricted and walled in. Human being do have the capability to make rational, objective decisions and policy on material that denigrates a group of people whether by race, sex, ethnicity, etc. -- Enric On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kid friendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adult content within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe video content which could be many things and is up to the directory curators to decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section on the site geared for children education and entertainment etc, then this could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive. eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out. see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory. itll come as content grows. im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating. everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Well, we already have yahooligans.yahoo.com, what about kids.mefeedia.com? :) It would be cool to be able to point kids to a videoblogging directory and let them explore what's there. Sometimes the most creative stuff comes from kids and the way they look at the world. You know, before the reality of it all crushes their spirit and makes them just another cog in the corporate machine that is today's society. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... I remember when I was a kid I didn't want to read books for children but those adults thought were important. I think I kids section will interest parents mostly. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Not that this thread hasn't run it's course, but I do like one suggestion that was made, and I sincerely hope that Peter takes it into serious consideration. The suggestion was to "safe filter" by default, much the way Google does for image searches. Considering how "public" (both figuratively and financially) Google is, I feel they devised a very good solution; the filter is easy enough to disable should you desire to.My 2¢.- joshpaulOn Dec 2, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: the kid can also google porn and BOOYA!!of course some kids may be a little too curious too soon...but we should discuss the issue broadly and generalize, knowing that their are always exceptions.no solution will ever be perfect. On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the "not for kids" stuff, filter the "kidfriendly" stuff. And include a warning on site stating that "there may be adultcontent within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here" You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe videocontent which could be many things and is up to the directory curatorsto decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section onthe site geared for children education and entertainment etc, thenthis could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive. eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out. see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory. itll come as content grows. im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating. everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Well, we already have yahooligans.yahoo.com, what about kids.mefeedia.com? :) It would be cool to be able to point kids to a videoblogging directory and let them explore what's there. Sometimes the most creative stuff comes from kids and the way they look at the world. You know, before the reality of it all crushes their spirit and makes them just another cog in the corporate machine that is today's society. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future...I remember when I was a kid I didn't want to read books for childrenbut those adults thought were important. I think I kids section will interest parents mostly. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:10:10 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all company (video)blogs are evil. im not making a judgement on the products...i just dont want my time hijacked by watching commercials. Thinking that companies will push out feeds of the 30 second commercials you see on tv is a little silly. No company is that fucking stupid (well, there'll be two and then it'll backfire and there'll be none). I'll take three of the latest Danish corporate blogs as examples. They're not videoblogs, but the point is the same. - Arken is a Danish museum. Their blog is written by a handful of employees and they write about what goes on at a museum and other art-related matters. It's a company, but why shouldn't they be listed in an Art category? Their blog is at: URL: http://arken.blogs.com/arken_blog/ - The Danish Patent and Trademark Office opened a weblog URL: http://www.dkpto.dk/weblog/ where 17 out of their 240 knowledge workers blog about matters related to intellectual property laws. Why shouldn't they be included in a Legal category alongside the private lawyer? - Arla, the most evil Danish corporation (they have something like 90% of the milk production in Denmark), started three weblogs. One is authored by a farmer and his wife. They blog about life on the farm and how it is to be a part of that big a corporation (actually every farmer is a co-owner). Why shouldn't they be listed under Farm life on equal terms with the indie farmer? URL: http://www.arla.dk/weblogs/baekgaarden I keep seeing this latent assumption that if a company is behind a (video)blog then they don't have anything worthwhile to say. It's just not true. Of course you have to let the company know when they fuck up (if they start sending 30 commercial clips out and calling it a vlog), but this idea that as a company they can't make vlogs is just annoying to no end. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:10:10 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all company (video)blogs are evil. im not making a judgement on the products...i just dont want my time hijacked by watching commercials. Thinking that companies will push out feeds of the 30 second commercials you see on tv is a little silly. No company is that fucking stupid (well, there'll be two and then it'll backfire and there'll be none). I'll take three of the latest Danish corporate blogs as examples. They're not videoblogs, but the point is the same. - Arken is a Danish museum. Their blog is written by a handful of employees and they write about what goes on at a museum and other art-related matters. It's a company, but why shouldn't they be listed in an Art category? Their blog is at: URL: http://arken.blogs.com/arken_blog/ - The Danish Patent and Trademark Office opened a weblog URL: http://www.dkpto.dk/weblog/ where 17 out of their 240 knowledge workers blog about matters related to intellectual property laws. Why shouldn't they be included in a Legal category alongside the private lawyer? - Arla, the most evil Danish corporation (they have something like 90% of the milk production in Denmark), started three weblogs. One is authored by a farmer and his wife. They blog about life on the farm and how it is to be a part of that big a corporation (actually every farmer is a co-owner). Why shouldn't they be listed under Farm life on equal terms with the indie farmer? URL: http://www.arla.dk/weblogs/baekgaarden I keep seeing this latent assumption that if a company is behind a (video)blog then they don't have anything worthwhile to say. It's just not true. Of course you have to let the company know when they fuck up (if they start sending 30 commercial clips out and calling it a vlog), but this idea that as a company they can't make vlogs is just annoying to no end. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yes, it's quite ridiculous. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] German Mobuzz Ripoff - Ehrensenf
My buddy Bill Streeter pointed out that my name was evoked in the
middle of this thread, therefore, I would like to offer a few
observations/comments
1) Would Rocketboom do as well with an equally beautiful woman who was
not as clever, smart, and funny as Amanda - I seriously doubt it
2) Would Rocketboom do as well, if Andrew did not produce/direct/film etc - I seriously doubt it
3) I've been considering new slogans for my vlog and I can't decide
between overweight (yet equally witty, and funny) bearded
man... or ignorant, uncool, ugly male (both have their charm)
4) I can't help but feel there is an underlying very-subtle current in
this discussion that implies that my appearance and age are somehow in
contrast to Amanda's youth and attractiveness. However, I will have you
know that my wife thinks I am quite hot, and often refers to me at eye
candy. I think you can see why she would think of that based on some
those rare videos when I offer a glimpse of my desirable bod
http://www.richardshow.com/2005/07/tao-of-vloggingwatch-video-yesterday.html
http://www.richardshow.com/2005/08/mountain-streamwatch-video-maureen-and.html
5) Also, had you been studying my videos in detail, which, of course, I
would recommend, you would find that the richardboom did make an
appearance on a Harry Potter video, though my beautiful wife (who
thinks I'm hot) played Amanda's role
http://www.richardshow.com/2005/07/richard-and-half-blood-prince-party.html
... Richard, overweight, yet equally funny ... On 11/29/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah I have a funny feeling that the numbers on these shows (viewership) would drastically drop if the pretty women were replaced
with an overweight (yet equally witty, and funny) bearded man...Rocketboom... now hosted by Richard Hall of the Richardshow.com-JoshOn 11/29/05, Josh Leo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I have a funny feeling that the numbers on these shows (viewership) would drastically drop if the pretty women were replaced with an overweight (yet equally witty, and funny) bearded man...
On 11/29/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It cerainly doesn't hurt though. -JoshOn 11/29/05, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering somewhere around half of all of the human beings on the planet are female and probably half or more of those are young and pretty, I don't
find this to be enough of an argument for why someone would go there. On Nov 29, 2005, at 9:57 AM, Christopher Ivanyi wrote:
In watching this show myself, and not understanding a word of it, I find myself asking why do I keep watching it?It must be to a large degree that
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive
"if i do a video blog in my car and the radio has a song on is that a copy rite isue??" Actually, you violate copyright when you have a song playing on the radio in your car while doing a vlog. You violate copyright when you film in a bar and an annoying bothersome boombox is playing in the background. You won't have any problems just vlogging such stuff. However, if you wanted to turn your vlogs into some sort of theatrical release, you would have all sorts of copyright conflicts. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Randy Mann To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 6:41 AM Subject: RE: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive if that is the case, then what happens when sony gets mad at me for smashing one of there tvs and calling it crap. would that be a trade mark issue?? if im wearing a nike shirt does that make my video a tm issue?? if i do a video blog in my car and the radio has a song on is that a copy rite isue??i think it should be like this she bought the doll. its hers.i liked the videorandyaverrycoollifeblog.blogspot.comFrom: "Bill Streeter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSubject: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archiveDate: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:38:34 -I don't think the issue with Barbie is copyright. I think it's a trademark issue. And trademarks a quite a bit different than copyrightunder the law. Under copyright (which is registered with the Libraryof Congress, in the US--although it needn't be to be legal) you own itno matter what unless you overtly give it up.Trademarks are different. Trademarks need to be protected to remainyour property. So if someone starts to use your Trademark and youdon't do due diligence to stop it, then the Trademark can cease to beyour trademark and become a generic mark that anyone can use. Thusexplains why companies so jealously guard against infringement oftheir trademark. Because under law if they don't they can loose them.So no doubt this was an issue of not just copyright but also oftrademark.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I concede the point. I didn't know that infringement of Barbie'scopyright would be the real issue. But, even on that level, I wonderif an argument couldn't be made for setting up some site in China orsomewhere that was really free of "copyright" constraints. I understand people deserve to be paid for their work and what theyown, etc. However, in this case, there was no financial gain beingmade. Barbie was being used to make a political statement (againstmen in my opinion) and therefore should be a legitimate target forparody like any celebrity. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280- Original Message - From: Steve Watkins To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive Archive.org's aims to capture history do not mean they can afford to pretend their are no laws that may affect the content they can legally host. The internet would be very different today if all the laws in all countries were always followed to the letter. Clearly that doesnt happen, but responsible sites that dont want to lose all their money in court have to do some sort of risk assessment. In a case where theres already been legal action against a very similar type of video, I think its easy to see why they may of decided it wasnt worth it. A possible justification could go along the lines of 'would you rather us ditch a small part of history or have us lose the entire archive due to the cost of fighting lawsuits'? Of course all this is just speculation, I have no idea why that video actually was removed or the though processes behind the decision. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the "Internet Archive" that claims to be capturing "the history of our day?" Aren't sexual issues part of that history? It is really outrageous that they took your vlog off. And, I say that, as someone who doesn't fully agree with your viewpoint. Actually, I watched this vlog and I felt it treated men unfairly. It made me mad. That is good. Something that provokes you and challenges you to think is good whether you like it or not.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
For me it's the thin edge of the wedge, and I think folks are focusing more on oh no! it's porn! -- where's the line drawn? How long until there's spvlogs, etc. Having a system in place to filter down -- not out -- things that negatively impact the community and tools aren't a bad thing, imho. Michael Sullivan wrote: the kid can also google porn and BOOYA!! of course some kids may be a little too curious too soon... but we should discuss the issue broadly and generalize, knowing that their are always exceptions. no solution will ever be perfect. On 12/2/05, *Enric* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kid friendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adult content within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe video content which could be many things and is up to the directory curators to decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section on the site geared for children education and entertainment etc, then this could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive. eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out. see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory. itll come as content grows. im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating. everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Well, we already have yahooligans.yahoo.com http://yahooligans.yahoo.com, what about kids.mefeedia.com http://kids.mefeedia.com? :) It would be cool to be able to point kids to a videoblogging directory and let them explore what's there. Sometimes the most creative stuff comes from kids and the way they look at the world. You know, before the reality of it all crushes their spirit and makes them just another cog in the corporate machine that is today's society. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... I remember when I was a kid I didn't want to read books for children but those adults thought were important. I think I kids section will interest parents mostly. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To
Re: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia?
Gosh, Jay, can't you read!! :) Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jay dedman To: Videobloggers Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia? someone said this site:http://www.toodou.com/index.htmlwas a user-generated video site.anyone know chinese?fact checking.jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowinghttp://getFireAnt.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
I agree. All I can do in this world is protect my own kids. I make the rules. So when I populate FireANT, I'm putting in the things like the kidsafe feed (which could be abused--but that's what parenting entails) I also have a client that has TA in their video podcast. Mine is not to question why--- there's some content and there's an audience for that content. One of the challenges I face is not being able to necessarily list that content in all places. And in theory, I can't even use OurMedia, since it could be argued that I am commercial (I constantly bring up the question: where does indie end and commercial begin? ) At any rate, I know it's difficult to always control everything a kid sees.. after all, I'm only 5 years into the game. But there are a whole bunch of peripheral issues with that. Is the content wrong or right? I'm in California, where probably a lot more of my neighbors see no issue with the famous postcards from buster episode that could be viewed completely the opposite by some similar parent of age and demographic in another part of the country and/or world. On the other hand, I do like reasonable ratings, either boolean or a sliding scale 1 for G, 2 for PG (great for art/criminal/education issues of adult nature---) 3 for mature... it's not to try and label it but also to help clarify what it is... we do this with NSFW tags. And besides, does NSFW make a great marketing vehicle? ;-) Just my thoughts. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Ridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK well now this is my pet peeve. I want everyone to shut the fuck up about kids. It is not the mission of the world to protect all children from anything that might be dangerous at any time in any place. Now the whole subject of what is or isn't appropriate for kids to see is a huge can of worms that I am going to complete ignore because it's beside the point. The point is - it is not my responsibility to filter my site (or my life in general) in the event that some child might happen upon it. There's this concept called parental responsibility. It's a doctrine which puts forth the concept that if you are going to have children, then that's an active exercise which requires full participation for approximately 16 to 18 years. If you are so concerned about what material of an objectionable nature your kids may see, then set limits and don't let them see those things. Sort of like how you might not let them wander around the red light district of Amsterdam on their own at 4 AM. Same concept. The correct solution here is for parents to step up and make rules and set limits, not to have some arbitrarily large net of responsibility that ensares and inhibits the rights of all adults everywhere. I will not be subjugated by the delicate and impressionable nature of 4 year olds. That's a non-starter for me. -m On 12/2/05, Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes it is part of life... but much of this discussion is related to kids encountering this stuff. I like to use this illustration in that regard. http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com/kiddyspam.jpg People find it irresponsible to create a picture like this, but then support who the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] cares if we see a dick type of attitude. Ironic. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rishey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you ask yourself why it is that you think people shouldn't see porn? Some of you make mention of 'self policing' the community? Do you realize what that sentence means? Don't we have enough policing? What is going to happen if you accidentally see a penis or a vagina? NOTHING. THese are distractions. THis is life. ANd to be wrapped up in the issue of what is decent and what is not is to be part of the problem. Hello- In a few decades the land your standing on could be underwater. Our world is at war based on complete deception and implemented by torture. Who the fuck cares if you see a goddamned dick? There are plenty of Owellian directories such as itunes which will remove such material. Itunes recently removed my insanefilms.com from their directory with no explanation. No censorship. If you are afraid to see penises, then subscribe to Rocketboom and watch nothing else. If you're talking about SPAM, however, that is another matter entirely. Richard Bluestein podshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig= IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H1 5DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=b K2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Randolfe, why are you so intolerant? You have not seen the movie yet you judge it is sour puss evangelism VH-1 watched the movie and they thought it was funny enough to order a pilot for a reality series. check out the movie site http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com and tell me what is sour puss about it? Here is the rottentomatoes review (which uses the word hilarious.) http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-10005116/reviews.php? critic=allsortby=defaultpage=1rid=1371399 I think you are mixing up the non-christian filmmaker with christians who appear in the film. The Jpeg of the kids reading porn spam does make a point. I just think your fear of getting christians cooties is clouding your judgement. Bill Day http://mebillday.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That JPEG picture used by Bill Day to make a point was actually the cover picture for a Christian Evangelical group whose leader said God spoke to him and spoke of porn. It was a sham. I thought it was an attempt at off-color humor when I first saw it. And, yes, it was too interesting not to explore. What a disappointment to find a sour-puss Evangelical instead of tasteless sick comic in the video. And for that matter, the photo could hardly be called pornographic, it was the wording and when you start censoring words you really are getting into censorship. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Day To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:48 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. yes it is part of life... but much of this discussion is related to kids encountering this stuff. I like to use this illustration in that regard. http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com/kiddyspam.jpg People find it irresponsible to create a picture like this, but then support who the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] cares if we see a dick type of attitude. Ironic. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rishey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you ask yourself why it is that you think people shouldn't see porn? Some of you make mention of 'self policing' the community? Do you realize what that sentence means? Don't we have enough policing? What is going to happen if you accidentally see a penis or a vagina? NOTHING. THese are distractions. THis is life. ANd to be wrapped up in the issue of what is decent and what is not is to be part of the problem. Hello- In a few decades the land your standing on could be underwater. Our world is at war based on complete deception and implemented by torture. Who the fuck cares if you see a goddamned dick? There are plenty of Owellian directories such as itunes which will remove such material. Itunes recently removed my insanefilms.com from their directory with no explanation. No censorship. If you are afraid to see penises, then subscribe to Rocketboom and watch nothing else. If you're talking about SPAM, however, that is another matter entirely. Richard Bluestein podshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Last year I was a projectionist at the Cinequest Film Festival in the University Theatre . A rucuous group of poeple came in, yelling, shouting, joking and having fun. Then they showed the film, "Missionary Positions" which I thought was well done and honest. I don't agree that porn is "bad" or "good". But the people who made the film have a quirky view of the world with some ideas that make sense. -- Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Day" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randolfe, why are you so intolerant? You have not seen the movie yet you judge it is sour puss evangelism VH-1 watched the movie and they thought it was funny enough to order a pilot for a reality series.check out the movie site http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com and tell me what is sour puss about it? Here is the rottentomatoes review (which uses the word "hilarious.") http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-10005116/reviews.php? critic=allsortby=defaultpage=1rid=1371399 I think you are mixing up the non-christian filmmaker with christians who appear in the film. The Jpeg of the kids reading porn spam does make a point. I just think your fear of getting christians cooties is clouding your judgement.Bill Day http://mebillday.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That JPEG picture used by Bill Day to make a point was actually the cover picture for a Christian Evangelical group whose leader said God spoke to him and spoke of "porn". It was a sham. I thought it was an attempt at off-color humor when I first saw it. And, yes, it was too interesting not to explore. What a disappointment to find a sour-puss Evangelical instead of tasteless sick comic in the video.And for that matter, the photo could hardly be called pornographic, it was the wording and when you start censoring words you really are getting into censorship. Randolfe (Randy) WickerVideographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280- Original Message - From: Bill Day To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:48 AMSubject: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. yes it is part of life... but much of this discussion is related to kids encountering this stuff. I like to use this illustration in that regard. http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com/kiddyspam.jpg People find it irresponsible to create a picture like this, but then support "who the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] cares if we see a dick" type of attitude. Ironic. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rishey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you ask yourself why it is that you think people shouldn't see porn? Some of you make mention of 'self policing' the community? Do you realize what that sentence means? Don't we have enough policing? What is going to happen if you accidentally see a penis or a vagina? NOTHING. THese are distractions. THis is life. ANd to be wrapped up in the issue of what is decent and what is not is to be part of the problem. Hello- In a few decades the land your standing on could be underwater. Our world is at war based on complete deception and implemented by torture. Who the fuck cares if you see a goddamned dick? There are plenty of Owellian directories such as itunes which will remove such material. Itunes recently removed my insanefilms.com from their directory with no explanation. No censorship. If you are afraid to see penises, then subscribe to Rocketboom and watch nothing else. If you're talking about SPAM, however, that is another matter entirely. Richard Bluestein podshow.comSPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant TypepadUse --YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia?
50k users 700k hits /day podcasts and video On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Jay dedman wrote: it's kinda famous in china.. it's for both vlog and podcast it's only have 100mb with p2p transfer cool! so can you give any background-- how long has it been up? do many people post? what kinds of work are people posting? is podcasting and videoblogging well known inside china? Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Fwd: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia?
please disregard previous message, intended to send off list. cheers Begin forwarded message: From: robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: December 2, 2005 10:11:08 AM EST To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia? 50k users 700k hits /day podcasts and video On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Jay dedman wrote: it's kinda famous in china.. it's for both vlog and podcast it's only have 100mb with p2p transfer cool! so can you give any background-- how long has it been up? do many people post? what kinds of work are people posting? is podcasting and videoblogging well known inside china? Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net> http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing> http://getFireAnt.com> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links *> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ *> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
I need to learn how to speak about my feelings of commercialization in the media. it never quite comes out right. nothing wrong with busness and profit and money... what is wrong is the amount of negative influence, explotation, and lack of respect for the community for which a company lives in. but as my punk upbringing has taught me: its not what they sell, its what we buy. Thinking that companies will push out feeds of the 30 second commercials you see on tv is a little silly. No company is that fucking stupid (well, there'll be two and then it'll backfire and there'll be none). i meant more the spam blogs. just like a majority of email is spam...my fear is that youll see feeds full of little commercials for whatever spam 'sells'. but as Sull mentioned, i can see tradtional companies sponsoring videoblogs that are entertaining or informattive. The Circuit City Tech Review where two cool, alternative hosts talk about the latest camcorders. snip I keep seeing this latent assumption that if a company is behind a (video)blog then they don't have anything worthwhile to say. It's just not true. Of course you have to let the company know when they fuck up (if they start sending 30 commercial clips out and calling it a vlog), but this idea that as a company they can't make vlogs is just annoying to no end. companies in the US have a very bad reputation for making content that is authentic or useful. usually they add their image/concept content to popular entertainment. I must look at their content in the subway car when i ride to work. I got to see their content on every phone booth. I hear it in the cab's radio between the news updates. i got to see it when i read the magazine and newspaper. Their content is the TV. and what do i gain from their content? i cant think the last time a large US company made a piece of content that was worthwhile. when they do, ill be the first to subscribe. andreas, i hope there is a turning point here and companies will begin to create/sponsor material that is useful. jay Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
companies in the US have a very bad reputation for making content that is authentic or useful. let me rephrase. companies in the US have a very bad reputation for making content that is not authentic or useful. usually they add their image/concept content to popular entertainment. I must look at their content in the subway car when i ride to work. I got to see their content on every phone booth. I hear it in the cab's radio between the news updates. i got to see it when i read the magazine and newspaper. Their content is the TV. and what do i gain from their content? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
This discussion about labeling reminds me of C-Span's coverage of a report on video games. They have a system with terms to describe games not for those under eighteen, excessive violence, etc. But, they find that most retailers (Best Buy being the lone exception) sell these games rated for adults to eight year old "undercover shoppers". They also found that parents really didn't know what some of the "labels" meant. Indeed, just like all these fine lines between "adult" and XXX and "kidsafe" and "not good for work" and "GP" etc. They found that the categories filmmakers used were the most familiar to the general public and actually suggested the film rating system be applied to video games. Even with films, you have all these nuances. I love the warnings on Sundance that say "brief nudity". Would that cover Janet Jackson's tit or would you have to see some full frontal nude? I even think they have a label "some violence". Does that mean only one person gets decapitated? All of these terms are so subjective. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: petertheman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia?? I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned, 'adult' doesn't always mean X, etc. Perhaps following the iTunes model of marking things as 'mature' or 'explicit' or whatever might work. For people not logged in, I would filter out all 'mature' content. For people who are logged in, provide a checkbox for whether they want 'mature' content displayed to them or not. Don't the various search engines do something similar with the results they display?Good ideas. I am taking the "light" approach here: take it easy on thefixes. Step by step. In a month or two, I am sure we'll add some morefeatures. There's a distinction between 'porn' and 'kid-safe' yes. The kidsafe tag is a good example:http://mefeedia.com/tags/kidsafe know that I'm sometimes not even sure if I should want videos inFireANT when my kids are in the room.Yep. It's a complex issue. I just want to make sure we providesolutions that scale and that work, but don't censor. There is enoughcensorship out there.Peter YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] French flash(porn)meeting
In 30 ' A booking has been made for 02-Dec-05 at 20:00 (GMT +) and lasting 89 minutes. This booking is for 25 people to use the application FlashMeeting To enter this event directly use the following address: http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=0f4150-2580 Loiez Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Jay says and Andreas responded: anyone with a brian knows that insanefilms.com is not a porn vloghe just happened to film a gang bang audition once for a school project. (look in the archive. its pretty amazing) They have... auditions...? This is an interesting point. Say what you want about Insane Films as a whole, this one vlog was just pure porn. In fact, they have tried to hide it and it might be blocked or not available on their site. I found it through searching the Internet or through an aggregator. This fellow might have been doing a documentary on auditions for a gang bang movie but the way he covered the activity (camera angles, etc) were in the best porn tradition. I know that a couple institutional names were listed on the credits. I'm sure they would be mortified if confronted publicly by some crusading anti-porn group. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:25:09 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or traditional companies will start making feeds with bascially advertisements. youll have literally hundreds of feeds because every business must have a voice. Not all company (video)blogs are evil. How will i know to find Human Dog if its surrounding by commercials and crap? You can always try humandog.com without the dash (kids: it's not safe for work). anyone with a brian knows that insanefilms.com is not a porn vloghe just happened to film a gang bang audition once for a school project. (look in the archive. its pretty amazing) They have... auditions...? - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
It's a good idea, but requires more coding than I can muster right now.. Will probably implement this in January.. Peter Not that this thread hasn't run it's course, but I do like one suggestion that was made, and I sincerely hope that Peter takes it into serious consideration. The suggestion was to safe filter by default, much the way Google does for image searches. Considering how public (both figuratively and financially) Google is, I feel they devised a very good solution; the filter is easy enough to disable should you desire to. My 2¢. - joshpaul On Dec 2, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: the kid can also google porn and BOOYA!! of course some kids may be a little too curious too soon... but we should discuss the issue broadly and generalize, knowing that their are always exceptions. no solution will ever be perfect. On 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote: Maybe the opposite approach would be logical? Instead of filtering the not for kids stuff, filter the kid friendly stuff. And include a warning on site stating that there may be adult content within, but check out our kid-friendly zone here You can then have categories/tags/sections of kid safe video content which could be many things and is up to the directory curators to decide how best to approach that. My point is, IF the concern for children resides in the sites owner and IF they care to put effort towards designating a section on the site geared for children education and entertainment etc, then this could take care of most of the aforementioned issues maybe ;-) great idea. very proactive. eric rice and ryanne made a kidsafe feed a while back for eric's kids. http://video.ericrice.com/videoblogs/ANTresearch.mov but i think the feed died out. see this is a great idea: a kidsafe directory. itll come as content grows. im not interested in censoring, but in organizing and educating. everything will exist. we can simply chose where. Well, we already have yahooligans.yahoo.com, what about kids.mefeedia.com? :) It would be cool to be able to point kids to a videoblogging directory and let them explore what's there. Sometimes the most creative stuff comes from kids and the way they look at the world. You know, before the reality of it all crushes their spirit and makes them just another cog in the corporate machine that is today's society. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... I remember when I was a kid I didn't want to read books for children but those adults thought were important. I think I kids section will interest parents mostly. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV?
I don't recognize the name "share". What comes to mind is whether there is a directory to the names and email addresses of members of this group listed somewhere? I know you can get the email address by clicking the name and "properties" on a posting but is there a directory or listing somewhere? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] What are vlog shows like "Rock n Roll TV"? Share is a member of this group. Why don't you ask her directly?Randolfe Wicker wrote: I just watched "Episode #8 - Windows Version" on my Mac (by mistake). These shows have both windows and iPod versions. They have professional looking graphics. They seem to have access to some of the rock stars. Are these productions of entertainment want-to-be's ? Or are they slick promotional vehicles for big time music producers? Obviously, they have invested time, professional skills and money into producing them. However, they have a "creative commons license" And, regarding this last episode, which features a rock singer performing while several scantily-clad sexy youngwomen kick a middle-aged slob restrained on the floor, does that "creative commons" license give any real rights to the snippets of the banned music video? Another show that also looks like it might be a slick promotion for an existing cable channel is Tech TV. Could anyone fill me in on this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV?
Through the group yahoo website, you can see a list of members. You cant see their full email addresses but you can contact them through the yahoo system. To have a list that included full emails could be downloaded or cutpasted, would be a bad idea because it would be wide open to spam abuse. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/members Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recognize the name share. What comes to mind is whether there is a directory to the names and email addresses of members of this group listed somewhere? I know you can get the email address by clicking the name and properties on a posting but is there a directory or listing somewhere? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV? Share is a member of this group. Why don't you ask her directly? Randolfe Wicker wrote: I just watched Episode #8 - Windows Version on my Mac (by mistake). These shows have both windows and iPod versions. They have professional looking graphics. They seem to have access to some of the rock stars. Are these productions of entertainment want-to-be's ? Or are they slick promotional vehicles for big time music producers? Obviously, they have invested time, professional skills and money into producing them. However, they have a creative commons license And, regarding this last episode, which features a rock singer performing while several scantily-clad sexy young women kick a middle-aged slob restrained on the floor, does that creative commons license give any real rights to the snippets of the banned music video? Another show that also looks like it might be a slick promotion for an existing cable channel is Tech TV. Could anyone fill me in on this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
sorry all this underneath rant was basically aimed at comments during the day, it bares nothing to the thread attached.On 2 Dec 2005, at 19:34, Paul Knight wrote: Hi randy and enric,Although I understand that both of you have probably non-issues with pornography, check out this please before you pass any judgement. What we have here is an adult site offering for free, not only 3 minute clips, but on some occations 30 minute clips of hardcore and specialised pornography, graphically showing the actors indulging in Bukaki, anal sex, bondage and fetish acts, which is as far away from the normal sexual act as you might expect to find on your top shelves, or even typing in "porn" in google, with or without the safety tabs on.My problem is this, it's free, and aimed at ipods, not computers. Yes the site is office friendly, because you must download it; none of these films are streaming, yet. I am neither a moralist or any kind of activist, but it's the kids who download this, pop it onto there ipods or psps or irivers, take them then into school and show this stuff around as they do, 'cos it's cool. Then getting their ipods confiscated and then the where did you get this stuff from? questions start to appear.paulOn 2 Dec 2005, at 18:24, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What format should you use to download if you do want to remix and post in a vlog??? They are vintage sad ravings. Randolfe (Randy) WickerVideographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 I'd download in the high qualty MPG4 and output in 3ivx quick start. -- Enric - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. right on! As to why? Perhaps the answers lie inside films like these classics from the internet archive: http://www.archive.org/details/Perversi1965 http://www.archive.org/details/Perversi1965_2 http://www.archive.org/details/parent_to_child_about_sex With a little re-mixing, they can become pretty interesting: http://www.archive.org/details/come_join_the_fun2004 markus Rishey wrote: Do you ask yourself why it is that you think people shouldn't see porn? Some of you make mention of 'self policing' the community? Do you realize what that sentence means? Don't we have enough policing? What is going to happen if you accidentally see a penis or a vagina? NOTHING. THese are distractions. THis is life. ANd to be wrapped up in the issue of what is decent and what is not is to be part of the problem. Hello- In a few decades the land your standing on could be underwater. Our world is at war based on complete deception and implemented by torture. Who the fuck cares if you see a goddamned dick? There are plenty of Owellian directories such as itunes which will remove such material. Itunes recently removed my insanefilms.com from their directory with no explanation. No censorship. If you are afraid to see penises, then subscribe to Rocketboom and watch nothing else. If you're talking about SPAM, however, that is another matter entirely. Richard Bluestein podshow.com -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo!
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
In the podcast from the Blogher session Blogging for Business, Christine Halvorson of Stonyfield Yogurt talks about how the president of the company insisted on creating a company blog even though the marketing department was in the beginning opposed to it: Blogher related site http://surfette.typepad.com/blogher/2005/11/blogher_audioca.html http://tinyurl.com/ds29y IT Conversations podcast of session http://www.itconversations.com/series/blogher05.html http://tinyurl.com/9cbmv Stonyfield Farm Blog http://www.stonyfield.com/weblog/ -- Enric http://www.cirne.com Determine the Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to learn how to speak about my feelings of commercialization in the media. it never quite comes out right. nothing wrong with busness and profit and money... what is wrong is the amount of negative influence, explotation, and lack of respect for the community for which a company lives in. but as my punk upbringing has taught me: its not what they sell, its what we buy. Thinking that companies will push out feeds of the 30 second commercials you see on tv is a little silly. No company is that fucking stupid (well, there'll be two and then it'll backfire and there'll be none). i meant more the spam blogs. just like a majority of email is spam...my fear is that youll see feeds full of little commercials for whatever spam 'sells'. but as Sull mentioned, i can see tradtional companies sponsoring videoblogs that are entertaining or informattive. The Circuit City Tech Review where two cool, alternative hosts talk about the latest camcorders. snip I keep seeing this latent assumption that if a company is behind a (video)blog then they don't have anything worthwhile to say. It's just not true. Of course you have to let the company know when they fuck up (if they start sending 30 commercial clips out and calling it a vlog), but this idea that as a company they can't make vlogs is just annoying to no end. companies in the US have a very bad reputation for making content that is authentic or useful. usually they add their image/concept content to popular entertainment. I must look at their content in the subway car when i ride to work. I got to see their content on every phone booth. I hear it in the cab's radio between the news updates. i got to see it when i read the magazine and newspaper. Their content is the TV. and what do i gain from their content? i cant think the last time a large US company made a piece of content that was worthwhile. when they do, ill be the first to subscribe. andreas, i hope there is a turning point here and companies will begin to create/sponsor material that is useful. jay Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
All commercial blogs/vlogs are not evil. What amuses me is when a viewer watches a commercial vlog and doesn't even realize it. There was a "Wild Girls of Thailand" vlog a few days ago with some topless nudity, etc. and which ended with a still that said: "Get the DVD @ ". Actually, it was one of the "most watched" videos of the day. This fact seemed to be missed by a couple people posting comments who only said things like the vlog was "exploitative", etc. If vlogs like that one "paid off", we might find ourselves swamped with vlogs that were nothing more than trailers/commercials for soft porn. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jay dedman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. Not all company (video)blogs are evil.im not making a judgement on the products...i just dont want my timehijacked by watching commercials.jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowinghttp://getFireAnt.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] ffmpegX for mac now supports ipod h264
New version of ffmpegx came out the other day that apparently supports ipod h264, Im just giving it a try now. Its probably a bit too nerdy for some, hopefully iSquint will be able to learn the h264 ipod secrets used in this ffmpegX, and also add ipod 264 support. ffmpegx: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ isquint: http://homepage.mac.com/tylerl82/ Meanwhile on the PC Nero Recode is still giving me the fastest and highest quality results, but costs some $ Here ends my brief irregularily updated ipod video encoding news. Cheers Steve of Elbows Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: my mom is a videoblogger!
ryanne hodson wrote: ok i don't know if this is fixed i viewed the source of this feed http://feeds.feedburner.com/OnTheRoadToRuin and i don't see that video as an enclosure will the next post be correct? Well, the feed is valid now. But there are no enclosures it in. How about adding rel=enclosure to the link like so: a href=http://blip.tv/file/get/Ontheroadtoruin-TheNewOldHouse247.mov; rel=enclosure Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
LOL, quite obviously... -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry all this underneath rant was basically aimed at comments during the day, it bares nothing to the thread attached. On 2 Dec 2005, at 19:34, Paul Knight wrote: Hi randy and enric, Although I understand that both of you have probably non-issues with pornography, check out this please before you pass any judgement. What we have here is an adult site offering for free, not only 3 minute clips, but on some occations 30 minute clips of hardcore and specialised pornography, graphically showing the actors indulging in Bukaki, anal sex, bondage and fetish acts, which is as far away from the normal sexual act as you might expect to find on your top shelves, or even typing in porn in google, with or without the safety tabs on. My problem is this, it's free, and aimed at ipods, not computers. Yes the site is office friendly, because you must download it; none of these films are streaming, yet. I am neither a moralist or any kind of activist, but it's the kids who download this, pop it onto there ipods or psps or irivers, take them then into school and show this stuff around as they do, 'cos it's cool. Then getting their ipods confiscated and then the where did you get this stuff from? questions start to appear. paul On 2 Dec 2005, at 18:24, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What format should you use to download if you do want to remix and post in a vlog??? They are vintage sad ravings. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 I'd download in the high qualty MPG4 and output in 3ivx quick start. -- Enric - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. right on! As to why? Perhaps the answers lie inside films like these classics from the internet archive: http://www.archive.org/details/Perversi1965 http://www.archive.org/details/Perversi1965_2 http://www.archive.org/details/parent_to_child_about_sex With a little re-mixing, they can become pretty interesting: http://www.archive.org/details/come_join_the_fun2004 markus Rishey wrote: Do you ask yourself why it is that you think people shouldn't see porn? Some of you make mention of 'self policing' the community? Do you realize what that sentence means? Don't we have enough policing? What is going to happen if you accidentally see a penis or a vagina? NOTHING. THese are distractions. THis is life. ANd to be wrapped up in the issue of what is decent and what is not is to be part of the problem. Hello- In a few decades the land your standing on could be underwater. Our world is at war based on complete deception and implemented by torture. Who the fuck cares if you see a goddamned dick? There are plenty of Owellian directories such as itunes which will remove such material. Itunes recently removed my insanefilms.com from their directory with no explanation. No censorship. If you are afraid to see penises, then subscribe to Rocketboom and watch nothing else. If you're talking about SPAM, however, that is another matter entirely. Richard Bluestein podshow.com -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use - - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS
Re: [videoblogging] ffmpegX for mac now supports ipod h264
Ive been using it and its AMAZING how small in file size H.264s are compared to Mpeg and 3ivx. They render really fast too. H264 will take over quickly, I think, because its that much better. On Dec 2, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: New version of ffmpegx came out the other day that apparently supports ipod h264, Im just giving it a try now. Its probably a bit too nerdy for some, hopefully iSquint will be able to learn the h264 ipod secrets used in this ffmpegX, and also add ipod 264 support. ffmpegx: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ isquint: http://homepage.mac.com/tylerl82/ Meanwhile on the PC Nero Recode is still giving me the fastest and highest quality results, but costs some $ Here ends my brief irregularily updated ipod video encoding news. Cheers Steve of Elbows Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: ffmpegX for mac now supports ipod h264
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive been using it and its AMAZING how small in file size H.264s are compared to Mpeg and 3ivx. They render really fast too. H264 will take over quickly, I think, because its that much better. To all: Are there stastics somewhere tracking the adoption level of Quicktime 7? It would be useful to use as a decision point for encoding primarily in H.264. - Enric On Dec 2, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: New version of ffmpegx came out the other day that apparently supports ipod h264, Im just giving it a try now. Its probably a bit too nerdy for some, hopefully iSquint will be able to learn the h264 ipod secrets used in this ffmpegX, and also add ipod 264 support. ffmpegx: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ isquint: http://homepage.mac.com/tylerl82/ Meanwhile on the PC Nero Recode is still giving me the fastest and highest quality results, but costs some $ Here ends my brief irregularily updated ipod video encoding news. Cheers Steve of Elbows Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ffmpegX for mac now supports ipod h264
They render really fast too. My experience is that, tho I think the H264 looks better at smaller sizes, it's slow as dirt to encode. At least with QT... haven't tried any other encoders. cheers, On 12/2/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive been using it and its AMAZING how small in file size H.264s are compared to Mpeg and 3ivx. They render really fast too. H264 will take over quickly, I think, because its that much better. On Dec 2, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: New version of ffmpegx came out the other day that apparently supports ipod h264, Im just giving it a try now. Its probably a bit too nerdy for some, hopefully iSquint will be able to learn the h264 ipod secrets used in this ffmpegX, and also add ipod 264 support. ffmpegx: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ isquint: http://homepage.mac.com/tylerl82/ -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog
I scrolled through the Yahoo Vlog search results. How do they find that content? A lot of well known vloggers weren't represented at all. There was a vlogger named "dooser" who seemed to have one to three vlogs on nearly every page. I noticed a lot of the files were very small. I wonder if you know how these search engines work? I didn't see a lot of your work their either. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Steve Garfield To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog Happy Friday everyone,Just saw a link in my referrer log from Yahoo!It lead me to the Yahoo! Video Search results page for a search for 'vlog'http://tinyurl.com/d56m7orhttp://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?_adv_prop=videoamp;x=opei=UTF-8va=vlogfmt=mpegfmt=qt;sz=alldur=allvst=0vm=pThe interesting thing is that the Yahoo! results page allows you to play my video directly AND it uses frames to display the original source page.Just wanted to mention it in case you haven't seen how this works.--Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog
I think they scrape a site called vlogdigest (or something like that:) On Dec 2, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: I wonder if you know how these search engines work?
Re: [videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:07:30 +0100, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do they find that content? A lot of well known vloggers weren't represented at all. There was a vlogger named dooser who seemed to have one to three vlogs on nearly every page. I noticed a lot of the files were very small. I wonder if you know how these search engines work? I didn't see a lot of your work their either. They search RSS feeds and you can add your own. I don't know if they only search feeds that use the Media RSS extension or not. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog
Actually, all of their video search is (supposedly) powered/driven by Media RSS. I.e. no media-rss extension, no inclusion in their search. That's my understanding, at least (I was part of the group that defined it..) robert a/k/a r wrote: I think they scrape a site called vlogdigest (or something like that:) On Dec 2, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: I wonder if you know how these search engines work? -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Bad internet archive URLs
Hey that's really strange! I fixed those a long time ago. If you check out the posts on my site they have the correct links now. Do they show up like this in Mefeedia because that's how they were originally when they went out in my RSS feed? -Verdi On Dec 2, 2005, at 9:46 AM, petertheman wrote: http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/69379752/ (Michael, those are yours!) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Something that is never mentioned in all this talk about "kids and adult content" is that if they are "too young", they won't find it interesting. If they find it interesting, they are probably old enough to be viewing it. That was what was really wacky about that JPEG with two kids barely old enough to walk and talk supposedly saying what their email (porno) content was. They weren't old enough to go on a computer. If they were on a computer, they wouldn't know what the words meant. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Michael Ridley To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. Perhaps. I'd argue that that decision is up to their parents. I firstgot online in 1992 or so, and I guess I would have been about 12 or 13at the time. My parents didn't choose to be involved in what I was orwas not looking at, content-wise. Granted you could say that in 1992there wasn't much general awareness of the "dangers" of being online,but my dad was savvy enough to know what was up..he just didn't feelthe need to make an issue of it, because he felt I had the commonsense to make appropriate choices.But who knows, for some other parents, sure maybe they want to filterthat out. But the point is, the onus is on the consumer (parent) noton the content provider. As the saying goes, if you don't like it,don't watch it.-mOn 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Ridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK well now this is my pet peeve. I want everyone to shut the fuck up about kids. It is not the mission of the world to protect all children from anything that might be dangerous at any time in any place. Now the whole subject of what is or isn't appropriate for kids to see is a huge can of worms that I am going to complete ignore because it's beside the point. The point is - it is not my responsibility to filter my site (or my life in general) in the event that some child might happen upon it. There's this concept called parental responsibility. It's a doctrine which puts forth the concept that if you are going to have children, then that's an active exercise which requires full participation for approximately 16 to 18 years. If you are so concerned about what material of an objectionable nature your kids may see, then set limits and don't let them see those things. Sort of like how you might not let them wander around the red light district of Amsterdam on their own at 4 AM. Same concept. The correct solution here is for parents to step up and make rules and set limits, not to have some arbitrarily large net of responsibility that ensares and inhibits the rights of all adults everywhere. I will not be subjugated by the delicate and impressionable nature of 4 year olds. That's a non-starter for me. -m So people under the age of eighteen should be kept by adults from sites like mefeedia? -- Enric On 12/2/05, Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes it is part of life... but much of this discussion is related to kids encountering this stuff. I like to use this illustration in that regard. http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com/kiddyspam.jpg People find it irresponsible to create a picture like this, but then support "who the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] cares if we see a dick" type of attitude. Ironic. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rishey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you ask yourself why it is that you think people shouldn't see porn? Some of you makemention of 'self policing' the community? Do you realize what that sentence means? Don'twe have enough policing? What is going to happen if you accidentally see a penis or a vagina? NOTHING. THese aredistractions. THis is life. ANd to be wrapped up in the issue of what is decent and what isnot is to be part of the problem. Hello- In a few decades the land your standing on could be underwater. Our world is at war based on complete deception and implemented by torture. Who the fuck cares if yousee a goddamned dick? There are plenty of Owellian directories such as itunes which willremove such material. Itunes recently removed my insanefilms.com from their directorywith no explanation. No censorship. If you are afraid to see penises, then subscribe to Rocketboom and watchnothing else. If you're talking about SPAM, however, that is another matter
[videoblogging] Battery life of iPod Video using H.264 ?
I've written before about this. I think we may be using the wrong metric for mobile video with the coming of H.264. My theory is that file size is no longer supreme. H.264 takes more processing power to decode. And processing power generally means less battery life (although this can be mitigated somewhat using hardware decoding). I think it's generally agreed that H.264 quality per file size is better than alternatives. But what about quality per processor MHz or more relavently quality per battery hour of playback? If you take a video and encode in H.264 for the iPod to a certain level of quality (subjective, I know) then take the same video and encode in the other format that is iPod video compatible (3ivX?) to the SAME PERCEIVED quality level. Generally, this would mean a higher bitrate (using the same FPS and resolution). What is the difference in battery life of the iPod Video when playing the H.264 versus the 3ivX, for example? Anyone care to try this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV?
Yes there is a members database at the group page on Yahoo Groups. Also Share has posted here several times in the last couple of weeks. I'm surprised you didn't see the messages. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recognize the name share. What comes to mind is whether there is a directory to the names and email addresses of members of this group listed somewhere? I know you can get the email address by clicking the name and properties on a posting but is there a directory or listing somewhere? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV? Share is a member of this group. Why don't you ask her directly? Randolfe Wicker wrote: I just watched Episode #8 - Windows Version on my Mac (by mistake). These shows have both windows and iPod versions. They have professional looking graphics. They seem to have access to some of the rock stars. Are these productions of entertainment want-to-be's ? Or are they slick promotional vehicles for big time music producers? Obviously, they have invested time, professional skills and money into producing them. However, they have a creative commons license And, regarding this last episode, which features a rock singer performing while several scantily-clad sexy young women kick a middle-aged slob restrained on the floor, does that creative commons license give any real rights to the snippets of the banned music video? Another show that also looks like it might be a slick promotion for an existing cable channel is Tech TV. Could anyone fill me in on this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: ffmpegX for mac now supports ipod h264
Its a combination of factors. H264 is more demanding to encode and decode, but also Apple have not made the best job of it. There are faster h264 encoders than quicktime, and if you can live with single-pass rather than dualpass, it helps. Andrew's experience is due to the encoder used by ffmpegx in ipod h264 mode, its an encoder called x264. Similar software for windows and linux that uses x264 should give similar results. And also the default settings. Andrew's seeing really low filesizes because ffmpegx have skimped a bit on the default bitrate in ffmpegx ipod h264 mode, its only 290kbits/sec. Nice and small fles, but not good enough quality for me, I just tried it. I stuck the video bitrate back up to 600 and got much nicer quality image, but the filesizes we are more used to seeing (no surprise really). Encoding was still fast, though again it defaults to single-pass mode so that helps a bit. Anyway using the same bitrate and settings there shouldnt be much variation in filesizes between quicktime 7 encoded h264 and h264 made with any other method. But encoding times and quality may vary considerably, so its worth not writing h264 off based on experience of quicktime7 alone. Same is true for playback to a certain extent, try another player (eg VLC) if youve had poor h264 playback on a machine in the past ith qt7 on windows or mac. None of this really helps with the 'can the masses easily see h264 in a browser' issue at the moment though, it just provides alternative solutions for those who want to dabble in this stuff either as creators or viewers. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They render really fast too. My experience is that, tho I think the H264 looks better at smaller sizes, it's slow as dirt to encode. At least with QT... haven't tried any other encoders. cheers, On 12/2/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive been using it and its AMAZING how small in file size H.264s are compared to Mpeg and 3ivx. They render really fast too. H264 will take over quickly, I think, because its that much better. On Dec 2, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: New version of ffmpegx came out the other day that apparently supports ipod h264, Im just giving it a try now. Its probably a bit too nerdy for some, hopefully iSquint will be able to learn the h264 ipod secrets used in this ffmpegX, and also add ipod 264 support. ffmpegx: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ isquint: http://homepage.mac.com/tylerl82/ -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
