Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

2018-09-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
In addition to everything else said below, I find these articles to be 
just curiosities. Apple can set the price wherever they want and only 
need to worry about how much people are willing to spend and not how 
much they cost to manufacture. Obviously if the price people are willing 
to pay is too low compared to how much they cost to manufacturer then 
Apple will stop manufacturing them and figure something else out.



On 09/25/2018 11:29 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

Hi mark,

The article doesn't state the Bill of Material, but purely bases itself on 
costs of components. it pretty much omits several phases in the logistics of 
getting an iPhone out to the customer.

Being a hardware/software design house, and being part of the hardware tech sector 
in Brisbane, we come across a lot of scenarios, and what is stated below does not 
mean that Apple makes near 300% of margin. unless otherwise stated, there is a 
balance sheet between overheads (salaries, facilities, R), then packaging, 
shipping, and after care services, surplus units for retail store exchanges, and 
the list goes on, vs the actual profits.

Apple being a vertical company, it makes a higher margin than say Amazon which 
is more horizontal, made of collaborations with its army of retailers. Still, 
to state that Apple simply makes that much margin is probably not correct, and 
a great ink shedding tool for media as the tradition goes.

This does not change my opinion about the new iPhone though, which I have 
touched at the local telecom store, it felt exactly like my iPhone 8+ and 
nothing the sales person told me prompted me to upgrade at this date.

Have a great day

A++





On 26 Sep 2018, at 2:19 pm, M. Taylor  wrote:

The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts
By Reuters
.   Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according
to a new analysis.
.   The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for
$1249.
.   Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown
estimate that's "even close to accurate."
.   Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its
iPhones.
Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, helping
keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its
phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device.
TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to
analyze their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on
Tuesday that the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity
contains about $443 in parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 for
the 64-gigabyte version of last year's iPhone X.
Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an update
on last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and the
budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max -
with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer
colors - that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099.
In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the single
priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared
with $77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch
screen. The relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen size
was because Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its
so-called 3D Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending on
how hard users press the screen.
"All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate
would have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at
TechInsights, told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in cost."
An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the
study.
But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the right
decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model this
year economically.
"For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's
driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about
using the phone," O'Donnell said.
Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips,
primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel and
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance while
taking up the same space. The 256-gigabyte iPhone Xs Max TechInsights
analyzed sells for $1,249 in the United States.

Original Article at:
https://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-xs-max-teardown-and-parts-cost-estima
te-2018-9

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Please Join Me in Requesting that a Small but Significant Bug be Resolved in the Latest Release of the Starbucks App

2018-09-25 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Everyone,

I believe that the following bug report speaks for itself.  

You may use any or all of it in your feedback to Starbucks.  

Please join me in requesting that the bug be resolved, as soon as possible.

You may submit your feedback as a review in the App Store; or via the online
feedback form at:
https://customerservice.starbucks.com/app/contact/ask_wifi_mobile_apps/.
or by sending a direct twitter message to @StarbucksHelp. 
or by calling:  800-782-7282.

As always, your support is greatly appreciated.

Mark

[BEGIN BUG REPORT]: 

Subject:  Request That Small but Significant Bug be Resolved for the
Visually Impaired

Hello,

In the latest version of the iOS Starbucks app, released on Tuesday,
September 25, 2018, VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for
the blind and low vision, no longer announces the current remaining balance
on the "Pay With" button, located near the lower right corner of the
display.   

To reproduce this bug:

1.
With VoiceOver enabled, open the Starbucks app.  

2.
With one finger, touch the "Pay With" button, located near the lower right
corner of the display.  VoiceOver says, "Pay with current balance."  Unlike
in the previous version, the actual remaining balance is not spoken despite
it being displayed for sighted users.

I respectfully request that this issue be resolved as soon as possible.
 
Thank you.

[END BUG REPORT] 


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RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

2018-09-25 Thread M. Taylor 
Okay, I have an iPhone 8 Plus and cannot reproduce this dictation bug.  
Generally speaking, I use either my Apple AirPods or the inline EarPods that 
shipped with the phone, itself.

Here's the thing, though, I can kind of see how others are getting this 
dictation bug.  I think it has to do with the video refresh rate problem that I 
mentioned, a couple of days ago.  This refresh rate issue occurs more 
frequently when VoiceOver is enabled.  

It's very difficult to explain because it has to do with a hiccup that takes 
place within nanno-seconds.  I remember that this kind of thing happened back 
in the early days of iPhone 6.  

Just report your findings to Apple and, hopefully, they will correlate them and 
discern the problem.  I'm almost positive that the solution will have something 
to do with the various video display drivers on various models.  

By the way, some non-VoiceOver users are reporting similar hick-ups at various 
times.  In fact, I had two sighted people call me, today, asking why there 
phones kind of stall, only for a split second, but something, nevertheless.  

Hang in there and we'll all get this figured out.

Mark 

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Laury, Shawnese (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

I also have an iPhone 8 and I am experiencing the same problem. It is also 
adding words to the sentences that I have not spoken. I’m not sure what is 
causing this. I have had an iPhone 5 six and seven and have use cases on all of 
them and have never experienced this before. I have even taken it to the Apple 
store so that they could see if something was going wrong with the speaker and 
according to them the hardware with my phone is great.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
> you use a headset?
> Do you have a case on your iPhone?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
> 
> Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other 
> iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a 
> wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
> On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate, 
> completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
> How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start 
> fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really 
> like to be able to count on its dictation capabilities.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

2018-09-25 Thread Yuma Decaux 
Hi mark,

The article doesn't state the Bill of Material, but purely bases itself on 
costs of components. it pretty much omits several phases in the logistics of 
getting an iPhone out to the customer.

Being a hardware/software design house, and being part of the hardware tech 
sector in Brisbane, we come across a lot of scenarios, and what is stated below 
does not mean that Apple makes near 300% of margin. unless otherwise stated, 
there is a balance sheet between overheads (salaries, facilities, R), then 
packaging, shipping, and after care services, surplus units for retail store 
exchanges, and the list goes on, vs the actual profits.

Apple being a vertical company, it makes a higher margin than say Amazon which 
is more horizontal, made of collaborations with its army of retailers. Still, 
to state that Apple simply makes that much margin is probably not correct, and 
a great ink shedding tool for media as the tradition goes.

This does not change my opinion about the new iPhone though, which I have 
touched at the local telecom store, it felt exactly like my iPhone 8+ and 
nothing the sales person told me prompted me to upgrade at this date.

Have a great day 

A++




> On 26 Sep 2018, at 2:19 pm, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts
> By Reuters
> . Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according
> to a new analysis.
> . The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for
> $1249.
> . Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown
> estimate that's "even close to accurate."
> . Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its
> iPhones.
> Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, helping
> keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its
> phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device. 
> TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to
> analyze their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on
> Tuesday that the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity
> contains about $443 in parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 for
> the 64-gigabyte version of last year's iPhone X. 
> Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an update
> on last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and the
> budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max -
> with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer
> colors - that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099. 
> In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the single
> priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared
> with $77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch
> screen. The relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen size
> was because Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its
> so-called 3D Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending on
> how hard users press the screen. 
> "All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate
> would have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at
> TechInsights, told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in cost." 
> An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the
> study. 
> But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the right
> decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model this
> year economically. 
> "For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's
> driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about
> using the phone," O'Donnell said. 
> Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips,
> primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel and
> Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance while
> taking up the same space. The 256-gigabyte iPhone Xs Max TechInsights
> analyzed sells for $1,249 in the United States. 
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-xs-max-teardown-and-parts-cost-estima
> te-2018-9
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Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

2018-09-25 Thread Chikodinaka Nkendidm Oguledo. PaPaC! 
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On 9/26/18, M. Taylor  wrote:
> The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts
> By Reuters
> . Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according
> to a new analysis.
> . The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for
> $1249.
> . Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown
> estimate that's "even close to accurate."
> . Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its
> iPhones.
> Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, helping
> keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its
> phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device.
> TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to
> analyze their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on
> Tuesday that the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity
> contains about $443 in parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 for
> the 64-gigabyte version of last year's iPhone X.
> Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an update
> on last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and the
> budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max -
> with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer
> colors - that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099.
> In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the
> single
> priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared
> with $77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch
> screen. The relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen
> size
> was because Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its
> so-called 3D Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending
> on
> how hard users press the screen.
> "All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate
> would have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at
> TechInsights, told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in cost."
>
> An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the
> study.
> But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the right
> decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model this
> year economically.
> "For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's
> driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about
> using the phone," O'Donnell said.
> Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips,
> primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel
> and
> Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance while
> taking up the same space. The 256-gigabyte iPhone Xs Max TechInsights
> analyzed sells for $1,249 in the United States.
>
> Original Article at:
> https://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-xs-max-teardown-and-parts-cost-estima
> te-2018-9
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iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

2018-09-25 Thread M. Taylor 
The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts
By Reuters
.   Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according
to a new analysis.
.   The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for
$1249.
.   Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown
estimate that's "even close to accurate."
.   Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its
iPhones.
Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, helping
keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its
phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device. 
TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to
analyze their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on
Tuesday that the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity
contains about $443 in parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 for
the 64-gigabyte version of last year's iPhone X. 
Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an update
on last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and the
budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max -
with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer
colors - that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099. 
In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the single
priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared
with $77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch
screen. The relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen size
was because Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its
so-called 3D Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending on
how hard users press the screen. 
"All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate
would have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at
TechInsights, told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in cost." 
An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the
study. 
But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the right
decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model this
year economically. 
"For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's
driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about
using the phone," O'Donnell said. 
Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips,
primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel and
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance while
taking up the same space. The 256-gigabyte iPhone Xs Max TechInsights
analyzed sells for $1,249 in the United States. 

Original Article at:
https://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-xs-max-teardown-and-parts-cost-estima
te-2018-9

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Face ID works well for me

2018-09-25 Thread Agent086b 
Hi all,
as I said recently I wanted face ID as I am a woodworker and often get dirty 
hands. My fingerprint would fail to work. Face ID is almost instant on my 
iPhoneXS. I now have my wife setup to use face ID on my phone also. Great being 
able to have 2 face IDs.
Max.

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
In order to take advantage of iOS 12 you should definitely update your apps.


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Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

Thanks.  


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Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

I call my SE my 6S in minature. It came out March of 2016, and the 6S came out 
September of 2015, thus it’s the 6S in miniature and cheaper.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 1:00 p. m., Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
escribió:

> SE is 6. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:56 PM
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> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
> 
> What is IPhone SE, what number?  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
> 
> 
> 
> On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or 
> so it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.
> 
> Gera
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> 
> El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m.,   > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> 
> > escribió:
> 
>I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
> mail and texts…
> 
>Upgraded to IOS 12.
> 
>I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  
> 
>Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> 
>Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 
> GB.  
> 
>Is IOS 12 this big?  
> 
>Thanks,
> 
>Ann
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I had a look at Apple’s Give-Back program and for my 38mm stainless steel 
series 2 Apple would apparently give me $160 Canadian, my wife’s 38mm aluminum 
showed $145, a small difference considering how much more a stainless steel 
watch costs when you buy it new over the Sport/aluminum model.
If we end up buying series 4 watches we will probably first try to sell them 
locally through our buy and sell forums, I would probably ask $300 Canadian for 
my series 2 stainless and maybe $275 for my wife’s Sport, if nobody bites we 
can always go with Apple’s offer.

From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 11:34 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

Good one! But, no thanks. I’m trying to think of a way to re-purpose my Series 
2. Any ideas?

Keith

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

Best way is to send me your Apple Watch 3 with Voiceover turned off and I’ll 
send you my Apple Watch 2 with Voiceover turned on *smile*

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:43 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

Hi Keith,

If you set up the accessibility shortcut, you can get VoiceOver back by 
pressing the digital crown 3 times quickly. If not, you can ask Siri to turn it 
on or open the Watch app on your phone, choose General, then Accessibility, 
then VoiceOver, and turn it on there.

Best,
Anna




On Sep 24, 2018, at 5:50 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I was drying my hands with a towel, and inadvertently touched the Apple Watch 
series 3. I heard an announcement, VoiceOver turned off.

How did that happen? How can I get it back?

Thanks, Keith

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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Ed,

I don't yet have an iPhone which supports Face Id, but I could imagine that it 
is faster and easier to use once  you get the hang of it. The one aspect of 
Touch Id I like is the fact that since I usually carry my phone in a belt 
holster it is easy to flip up the cover and to unlock it using Touch Id without 
ever taking it out of the holster. But I think one would get use to it pretty 
quick and especially up here in northern BC where one wears gloves pretty much 
6 months out of the year Touch Id is not all that convenient either in the 
winter month.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:49 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

I am going to throw my voice into the ring…

I have an iPhone X with Face ID and the 10.5 inch screen iPad Pro with Touch 
ID. I also had the iPhone 7+ with Touch ID. I have had many more failures with 
Touch ID with my iPad Pro and iPhone 7+. I actually prefer Face ID as it seems 
to be much quicker than Touch ID ever was for me. I am sure I will get grief 
for my choice but I love Face ID, and would never go back… Of which will not be 
an option in a few years.

Ed   

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> 
> I always seem to be washing my hands but have a dishwasher to wash the dishes 
> 
> 
> OK more seriously: the main reason I turned touch id off was because it 
> caused too much a problem with my banking app, doubtless because of its 
> inconsistency. I could train the finger  print and it would last for a few 
> weeks then I’d have to train it again. I often need hand cream as my fingers 
> get a bit rough so my print may well change quite a lot. Don’t know if this 
> would cause the problem. Still I’ll be having to grapple with face id as I 
> want the xR.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 19:03, M Beggs  wrote:
>> 
>> Angie
>> it must be all the dishes you wash for your old man smile
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Angie Nutt
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> Yes, I’ve had so much trouble with my finger print that I’ve switched that 
>> off.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 03:20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a 
>>> mountain out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times 
>>> everybody who has a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one 
>>> occasion or another, we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite 
>>> sure. So let’s get real. I think there should be an alternative. We 
>>> shouldn’t be forced to use Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an 
>>> iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner or later, he will be using something 
>>> besides touch ID if you want to stay with Apple.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
 
 
 After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
 the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
 iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
> 
> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
> me
> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
> reply, "Good for you."
> 
> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
> opener
> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his 
> home.
> 
> 
> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, 
> I
> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as 
> his
> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet 
> off,
> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
> 
> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
> someone who would care either one way or the other.
> 
> What made me laugh even harder was the

Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

2018-09-25 Thread Maria Reyes 
I'm with Ed here. I briefly played with Touch ID on a friend's iPad and found 
it didn't recognize me as good as Face ID does. I wonder now how fast the new 
Face ID will be.

Get Outlook for iOS


From: 20157563700n behalf of
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:49 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

I am going to throw my voice into the ring…

I have an iPhone X with Face ID and the 10.5 inch screen iPad Pro with Touch 
ID. I also had the iPhone 7+ with Touch ID. I have had many more failures with 
Touch ID with my iPad Pro and iPhone 7+. I actually prefer Face ID as it seems 
to be much quicker than Touch ID ever was for me. I am sure I will get grief 
for my choice but I love Face ID, and would never go back… Of which will not be 
an option in a few years.

Ed

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>
> I always seem to be washing my hands but have a dishwasher to wash the dishes 
> 
>
> OK more seriously: the main reason I turned touch id off was because it 
> caused too much a problem with my banking app, doubtless because of its 
> inconsistency. I could train the finger print and it would last for a few 
> weeks then I’d have to train it again. I often need hand cream as my fingers 
> get a bit rough so my print may well change quite a lot. Don’t know if this 
> would cause the problem. Still I’ll be having to grapple with face id as I 
> want the xR.
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>
>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 19:03, M Beggs  wrote:
>>
>> Angie
>> it must be all the dishes you wash for your old man smile
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Angie Nutt
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>>
>> Yes, I’ve had so much trouble with my finger print that I’ve switched that 
>> off.
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 03:20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a 
>>> mountain out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times 
>>> everybody who has a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one 
>>> occasion or another, we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite 
>>> sure. So let’s get real. I think there should be an alternative. We 
>>> shouldn’t be forced to use Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an 
>>> iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner or later, he will be using something 
>>> besides touch ID if you want to stay with Apple.
>>>
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:


 After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
 the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
 iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>
> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
> me
> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
> reply, "Good for you."
>
> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
> opener
> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his 
> home.
>
>
> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm. Since it was so late, I
> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as 
> his
> bike approached. He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
>
> I could not stop laughing. I don't know why he called me as we have not
> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
> someone who would care either one way or the other.
>
> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident 
> in
> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
> for the garage door system.
>
> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
> (smile)
>
> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control 
> for
> the opener.
>
> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough

RE: where is the NFC reader on an iphone 7

2018-09-25 Thread llumpkin 
apple pay uses near field communications (nfc) in the phone to read codes. It’s 
somewhere near the top of the phone and has nothing to do with knfb.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: where is the NFC reader on an iphone 7

 

I don't even understand the question. ApplePay uses the KNFB Reader? I'm 
curious. How do these two programs have anything to do with each other? What 
about my phone do I not know after owning an iPhone for so long?

 

If you bought and installed it, tell your phone "open KNFB Reader." If you want 
to open it manually, it's probably at or toward the end of the last screen of 
applications, however many you have. This is why occasionally resetting the 
Home screen after adding many new applications is so useful. It places all your 
non-Apple applications immediately after the last one that comes pre-installed 
with the phone, and sorts them in alphabetical order by name, making them 
easier to find on phones with several pages of Home screen.

 

On 9/25/2018 1:08 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com   
wrote:

Hi. I’m thinking of getting way around tags and wondered where the NFC reader 
is. This is the one that apple pay uses. I have an iphone 7.

 

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Re: where is the NFC reader on an iphone 7

2018-09-25 Thread Steve Matzura 
I don't even understand the question. ApplePay uses the KNFB Reader? I'm 
curious. How do these two programs have anything to do with each other? 
What about my phone do I not know after owning an iPhone for so long?



If you bought and installed it, tell your phone "open KNFB Reader." If 
you want to open it manually, it's probably at or toward the end of the 
last screen of applications, however many you have. This is why 
occasionally resetting the Home screen after adding many new 
applications is so useful. It places all your non-Apple applications 
immediately after the last one that comes pre-installed with the phone, 
and sorts them in alphabetical order by name, making them easier to find 
on phones with several pages of Home screen.



On 9/25/2018 1:08 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:


Hi. I’m thinking of getting way around tags and wondered where the NFC 
reader is. This is the one that apple pay uses. I have an iphone 7.


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Re: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?

2018-09-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
Both the BARD Mobile documentation and the description in the App Store 
refer to downloading books to your iPhone.



* App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bard-mobile/id705229586?mt=8

* BARD Mobile user manual: 
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/apidocs/BARDMobile.userguide.iOS.1.0.html



On 09/25/2018 09:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I think it must download, because you can play bard books when you do 
not have any kind of connection. If it was streaming from somewhere, 
that shouldn’t be possible.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:03 PM, Robert Wright > wrote:


    I don’t think it actually downloads to your iDevice. 
I believe that there may be a sort of temporary cloud storage that 
you stream from.


character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you! 
 
***


*From: *Craig Werner 
*Sent: *Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:40 AM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject: *Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?

Greetings to the list.

I am using the BARD app on iOS 11.4.1, and I notice that when I go to

"Settings -> General -> iPhone Usage," the BARD app fills only 5.5MB

even though two relatively full-length books have been dowloaded.

"Documents and Data" under the app take up only a few kilobytes of

storage.  Where on the iPhone are my two books kept?

Thank you very much for all help.

Craig

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Re: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?

2018-09-25 Thread Mary Otten 
I think it must download, because you can play bard books when you do not have 
any kind of connection. If it was streaming from somewhere, that shouldn’t be 
possible.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:03 PM, Robert Wright  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think it actually downloads to your iDevice. I 
> believe that there may be a sort of temporary cloud storage that you stream 
> from.
>  
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
> ***
>  
> From: Craig Werner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?
>  
> Greetings to the list.
>  
> I am using the BARD app on iOS 11.4.1, and I notice that when I go to
> "Settings -> General -> iPhone Usage," the BARD app fills only 5.5MB
> even though two relatively full-length books have been dowloaded.
> "Documents and Data" under the app take up only a few kilobytes of
> storage.  Where on the iPhone are my two books kept?
>  
> Thank you very much for all help.
>  
> Craig
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RE: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?

2018-09-25 Thread Robert Wright 
I don’t think it actually downloads to your iDevice. I believe that 
there may be a sort of temporary cloud storage that you stream from.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Craig Werner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?

Greetings to the list.

I am using the BARD app on iOS 11.4.1, and I notice that when I go to
"Settings -> General -> iPhone Usage," the BARD app fills only 5.5MB
even though two relatively full-length books have been dowloaded.
"Documents and Data" under the app take up only a few kilobytes of
storage.  Where on the iPhone are my two books kept?

Thank you very much for all help.

Craig

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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Jim Weiss 
DFU is the most deepest reset that you can do on an iPhone.   It eliminates the 
iOS and you need to download it from Apple.
Jim Weiss
jimweiss...@gmail.com

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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:20 PM, amedl...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Thanks, what is DFU?  
> I have 27 apps or 25%, Facebook largest at 513 MB.  
> I have 144 photos which is 78.1 MB.  
> 1.79 GB space available.
> Version 12.0 168366 
> All above seems okay but next time I’ll install from ITunes.  At least that 
> is what I read on web.
> I did a backup today to this PC.  
> I forgot when I first tried to upgrade to IOS 12 I got an error.  Tried again 
> and successful message.
>   
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Jim Weiss
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> There is nothing for you to manually clean-up after an install.  Once you 
> have a good install on the device the installer performs the clean-up.
> Keep in mind not all developers do a nice and tidy clean-up, Facebook comes 
> to mind.  My current Facebook app is consuming 1 GB of space on my 8 Plus.  
> The only real way to reduce that back down to about 140 MB is to delete the 
> app, and download the app again.  Since I typically do a DFU reset on my 
> phones once a year I typically don’t worry about apps that don’t clean-up 
> nicely after themselves.
> Jim Weiss
> jimweiss...@gmail.com 
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:58 PM, amedl...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>  
>> How do I clean up after install?  Thanks.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Jim Weiss
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
>>  
>> The download sizes vary between the different devices.  For example I have 
>> an iPhone 8 Plus and an iPhone 8 and there are two different downloads 
>> required when updating each device.
>> I have updated my 8 Plus and the download to disk was just shy of 4 GB, my 
>> updated phone shows that the iOS is using almost 10 GB on the actual phone.  
>> The downloaded file is a compressed file which is extracted, installed and 
>> then cleaned up.  The physical install file is still on my Mac hard drive, 
>> but any temporary files used during install should be cleaned up after a 
>> successful install onto the phone.
>> Jim Weiss
>> jimweiss...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer 
>> yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you 
>> know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go…” | Dr. Seuss
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marie >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
>>> download?
>>> Marie
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM
>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
>>>  
>>> I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage 
>>> it says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.
>>> My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
>>> Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.
>>> If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here 
>>> Auible uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it 
>>> shows as 2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two 
>>> apps alone take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a 
>>> total of 64 apps on my phone.
>>>  
>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> >> > On Behalf Of amedl...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
>>>  
>>> I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>

RE: Pandora

2018-09-25 Thread Robert Wright 
So far the cost seems to be the same. Premium is $9.99 and you get to download  
and its ad free

Pandora + $4.99 ad free only
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Johnna Simmons
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pandora

I wonder what this will mean for the Pandora app. I find it much more 
accessible to use Pandora been serious exam.
Johnna Simmons

On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
Yes, it was on the news this morning.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
Have you heard that Sirius/XM has purchased Pandora?
 
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    
 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pandora
 
You have to play the station you want, stop it, go into Siri settings and you 
will find a suggested shortcut for that station.
Then, you can record a phrase like play Joni Mitchell radio and from then on, 
you can have Siri play your chosen station.
 
Richard
 
 
 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve & 
Shannon Cook
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pandora
 
I have an iPhone 7 with the current IOS.  I have updated all of my apps for IOS 
12.  I know with 12 you can ask Pandora to play using SIRI, I can do this.  My 
question is how do you have Pandora play a certain station.  
 
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Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

2018-09-25 Thread englishrider91 
You might also want to try doing a hard reset. I'm not sure if that's what it's 
called, exactly, but I'm talking about the reset where you hold down the power 
and home buttons for 10 seconds. I'm not sure how to do it on a newer phone, 
though. It doesn't reset any of your settings or get rid of any of your apps or 
anything like that--it's just something else you can try if restarting the 
phone didn't work.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't believe it's possible to "step up" the way you're describing.
> I think it would be a all or nothing type of thing.
> 
> Also, just to update, a reset of network settings didn't help so it's
> looks like I will need to set up as a new device. I
> 'm not looking forward to that and so will wait until the freezing
> problem really gets on my last nerve. 
> 
>> On 9/25/18, Arlene  wrote:
>> Sieghard, or anyone, else for that matter, this may seem like a silly
>> question to  ask, but not silly enough if the answer is that potentially
>> could matter, so I'll ask. If it did matter it would be good to keep in
>> mind, maybe even with updating to a newer version on either the phone of the
>> computer. So the question, do you think it could cause problems if you're 2
>> or 3 versions behind, being on your favorite update, not really wanting to
>> upgrade to keep for a while what you have? If you're in that situation,
>> where the phone is concerned would it be better to go up one version at a
>> time, if it was possible? I'm thinking that it wouldn't be possible but I
>> could be wrong, but it seems to me once there's a current upgrade as in ios
>> 12, one couldn't update to 11.4 if they were on the previous version before,
>> since as far as what I know you wouldn't have access to that previous
>> version, unless there's some place to find those previous versions. With my
>> limited knowledge that's something I don't know about, so thanks for the
>> answer to that from you experts.  and as far as how it is on the 2 out of
>> the 3 iphone se phones we have it does seem to be working well. We'll
>> probably update the third one pretty soon. while it's such a minor thing, we
>> love checking the time on that phone with touching the home button, but
>> that's such a minor thing. It's funny the things we get so use too. touching
>> the power button is just as simple.
>> 
>> Arlene
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:33 AM
>>  Subject: RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12
>> 
>> 
>>  Hi Mario,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 because on my 6S Plus
>> which has the same processor as your SE I find everything is just a bit
>> faster and snappier.
>> 
>>  As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would agree, first I would
>> ask when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I would ask whether
>> they closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and rebooted the
>> phone. I would also ask if they rebooted the phones after upgrading and
>> possibly suggest a reset network settings first. This may or may not help,
>> but all it involved is having to reenter your WiFi password and renaming the
>> phone to what you want it to be in Settings > General > About, so all in all
>> it’s a pretty easy process and if it fixes the issue then it would save them
>> a lot of time. If it doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore the
>> phone, set it up as a new device first and make sure all is well, then
>> restore your backup a day or two later. If the problems return then you know
>> that the backup also restored the problems which sometimes can happen and
>> the only way then is to restore again, set up as a new phone and manually
>> put everything back the way you like.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Regards,
>> 
>>  Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mário Navarro
>>  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:31 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Hi.
>>  This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before
>> doing a total reset: DFU Mode.
>>  I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to me
>> on your phone.
>>  And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
>>  But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what I
>> did...
>>  Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in
>> IOS 10.
>>  cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:
>> 
>>Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing
>> strange app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but
>> rather the screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any
>> activity is to remove the app from the app switcher

RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

I call my SE my 6S in minature. It came out March of 2016, and the 6S came out 
September of 2015, thus it’s the 6S in miniature and cheaper.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 1:00 p. m., Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
escribió:

> SE is 6. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> amedl...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
> 
> What is IPhone SE, what number?  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
> 
> 
> 
> On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or 
> so it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.
> 
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>I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
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> 
>Upgraded to IOS 12.
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>I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  
> 
>Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> 
>Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 
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Re: An FTP client for iPHone?

2018-09-25 Thread Richard Turner 
Hi,
It is easy to transfer a file from FTP Client Pro to Voice Dream. I have it 
pointed to my web site.
I flick to the file I want.
Double tap and a dialog of File Actions comes up, one of which is "Open In." I 
double tap, and select copy to Voice Dream and there it is.
It does download the file in the process.
HTH,
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On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

OH OK thanks! I imagine one can download stuff off it (a book for instance) and 
somehow import it to Voice Dream Reader?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 3:27 p. m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

I use FTP Client Pro to maintain a couple of web pages. The link to the app 
store is below. It is completely accessible in my experience.
FTP Client Pro by LessIsMore Development
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ftp-client-pro/id425341262?mt=8





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Anyone know, or used, an ftp CLIENT FOR iOS? I’d like to be able to browse to 
either the book, music or whatever wanting to download is, download, and once 
that’s done, import it into voice Dream Reader. Thanks for info.whater wav

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Re: Flick Type annual fee

2018-09-25 Thread Richard Turner 
It is $11.99 annually  or $.99 a month.
You select the upgrade tab at the bottom of the app.
Richard
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Flick Type annual fee

2018-09-25 Thread Mr. Ed 
Hi All,

I have a friend that uses Flick Type. He would like to know how much the
annual fee is and how you purchase it? Any info on this would be
appreciated.

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Re: An FTP client for iPHone?

2018-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
OH OK thanks! I imagine one can download stuff off it (a book for instance) and 
somehow import it to Voice Dream Reader?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 3:27 p. m., Richard Turner 
 escribió:

> I use FTP Client Pro to maintain a couple of web pages. The link to the app 
> store is below. It is completely accessible in my experience.
> FTP Client Pro by LessIsMore Development
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ftp-client-pro/id425341262?mt=8
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Utah Phillips
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> 礪
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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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>> Anyone know, or used, an ftp CLIENT FOR iOS? I’d like to be able to browse 
>> to either the book, music or whatever wanting to download is, download, and 
>> once that’s done, import it into voice Dream Reader. Thanks for info.whater 
>> wav
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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks.  I hope to stay with IPhone6 for as long as possible.  I have some app 
updates for IOS12 but do not think I will update unless apps stop working.


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Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

I call my SE my 6S in minature. It came out March of 2016, and the 6S came out 
September of 2015, thus it’s the 6S in miniature and cheaper.

Gera
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> SE is 6. 
> 
> Best regards,
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> What is IPhone SE, what number?  
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> 
> On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or 
> so it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.
> 
> Gera
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> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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> El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m.,   > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> 
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>I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
> mail and texts…
> 
>Upgraded to IOS 12.
> 
>I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  
> 
>Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> 
>Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 
> GB.  
> 
>Is IOS 12 this big?  
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>Thanks,
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Re: An FTP client for iPHone?

2018-09-25 Thread Richard Turner 
I use FTP Client Pro to maintain a couple of web pages. The link to the app 
store is below. It is completely accessible in my experience.
FTP Client Pro by LessIsMore Development
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ftp-client-pro/id425341262?mt=8





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Anyone know, or used, an ftp CLIENT FOR iOS? I’d like to be able to browse to 
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Kinsa Thermometer

2018-09-25 Thread GARY WILLIAMS 
Hi everyone,
We bought a Kinsa smart ear thermometer from Amazon. We downloaded the Kinsa 
app and followed the steps to pair the thermometer with our i phone 7. The 
thermometer shows up in the list of bluetooth devices, but, when we take a 
temperature the thermometer fails to connect with the Kinsa app. Does anyone 
have any suggestions, and does anyone know of a number to contact Kinsa 
support. We looked and there is a number to send a text message which we did, 
but to no avail so far. 
Any suggestions would be helpful. 
Thanks.
Nancy and Gary

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks, what is DFU?  

I have 27 apps or 25%, Facebook largest at 513 MB.  

I have 144 photos which is 78.1 MB.  

1.79 GB space available.

Version 12.0 168366 

All above seems okay but next time I’ll install from ITunes.  At least that is 
what I read on web.

I did a backup today to this PC.  

I forgot when I first tried to upgrade to IOS 12 I got an error.  Tried again 
and successful message.

  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Weiss
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

There is nothing for you to manually clean-up after an install.  Once you have 
a good install on the device the installer performs the clean-up.

Keep in mind not all developers do a nice and tidy clean-up, Facebook comes to 
mind.  My current Facebook app is consuming 1 GB of space on my 8 Plus.  The 
only real way to reduce that back down to about 140 MB is to delete the app, 
and download the app again.  Since I typically do a DFU reset on my phones once 
a year I typically don’t worry about apps that don’t clean-up nicely after 
themselves.

Jim Weiss

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what holds you back.” National Federation for the Blind





On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:58 PM, amedl...@gmail.com   
wrote:

 

How do I clean up after install?  Thanks.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Weiss
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

The download sizes vary between the different devices.  For example I have an 
iPhone 8 Plus and an iPhone 8 and there are two different downloads required 
when updating each device.

I have updated my 8 Plus and the download to disk was just shy of 4 GB, my 
updated phone shows that the iOS is using almost 10 GB on the actual phone.  
The downloaded file is a compressed file which is extracted, installed and then 
cleaned up.  The physical install file is still on my Mac hard drive, but any 
temporary files used during install should be cleaned up after a successful 
install onto the phone.

Jim Weiss

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know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go…” | Dr. Seuss






On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marie mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
download?

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage it 
says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.

My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.

If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here Auible 
uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it shows as 
2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two apps alone 
take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a total of 64 apps 
on my phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
amedl...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

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Phillips

 

 

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On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com  " 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and

Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Jim Weiss 
There is nothing for you to manually clean-up after an install.  Once you have 
a good install on the device the installer performs the clean-up.
Keep in mind not all developers do a nice and tidy clean-up, Facebook comes to 
mind.  My current Facebook app is consuming 1 GB of space on my 8 Plus.  The 
only real way to reduce that back down to about 140 MB is to delete the app, 
and download the app again.  Since I typically do a DFU reset on my phones once 
a year I typically don’t worry about apps that don’t clean-up nicely after 
themselves.
Jim Weiss
jimweiss...@gmail.com

“The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between 
blind people and our dreams. You can have the life you want; blindness is not 
what holds you back.” National Federation for the Blind

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:58 PM, amedl...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> How do I clean up after install?  Thanks.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Weiss
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> The download sizes vary between the different devices.  For example I have an 
> iPhone 8 Plus and an iPhone 8 and there are two different downloads required 
> when updating each device.
> I have updated my 8 Plus and the download to disk was just shy of 4 GB, my 
> updated phone shows that the iOS is using almost 10 GB on the actual phone.  
> The downloaded file is a compressed file which is extracted, installed and 
> then cleaned up.  The physical install file is still on my Mac hard drive, 
> but any temporary files used during install should be cleaned up after a 
> successful install onto the phone.
> Jim Weiss
> jimweiss...@gmail.com 
> 
> “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer 
> yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you 
> know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go…” | Dr. Seuss
> 
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marie > > wrote:
>>  
>> Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
>> download?
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
>>  
>> I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage 
>> it says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.
>> My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
>> Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.
>> If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here 
>> Auible uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it 
>> shows as 2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two 
>> apps alone take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a 
>> total of 64 apps on my phone.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> amedl...@gmail.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
>>  
>> I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
>>  
>> It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?
>> Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, 
>> it is a pretty high percentage of your storage space.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. 
>> Utah Phillips
>>  
>>  
>> 礪
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com 
>> " > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
>>> mail and texts…
>>> Upgraded to IOS 12.
>>> I got a space issue when updating Facebook. 
>>> Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
>>> Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 
>>> GB. 
>>> Is IOS 12 this big? 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ann
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RE: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

2018-09-25 Thread 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Good one! But, no thanks. I’m trying to think of a way to re-purpose my Series 
2. Any ideas?

Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

Best way is to send me your Apple Watch 3 with Voiceover turned off and I’ll 
send you my Apple Watch 2 with Voiceover turned on *smile*

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:43 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

Hi Keith,

If you set up the accessibility shortcut, you can get VoiceOver back by 
pressing the digital crown 3 times quickly. If not, you can ask Siri to turn it 
on or open the Watch app on your phone, choose General, then Accessibility, 
then VoiceOver, and turn it on there.

Best,
Anna




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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I was drying my hands with a towel, and inadvertently touched the Apple Watch 
series 3. I heard an announcement, VoiceOver turned off.

How did that happen? How can I get it back?

Thanks, Keith

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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
I call my SE my 6S in minature. It came out March of 2016, and the 6S came out 
September of 2015, thus it’s the 6S in miniature and cheaper.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 1:00 p. m., Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
escribió:

> SE is 6. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> 
> What is IPhone SE, what number?  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
> 
> 
> 
> On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or 
> so it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.
> 
> Gera
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> El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m.,   > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> 
> > escribió:
> 
>I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
> mail and texts…
> 
>Upgraded to IOS 12.
> 
>I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  
> 
>Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> 
>Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 
> GB.  
> 
>Is IOS 12 this big?  
> 
>Thanks,
> 
>Ann
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
Though it should do the cleaning automatically after the update, I’ve been 
using several months, Magic cleaner, which has ads and it’s available to remove 
the ads if you don’t want to bother with the hassel of seeing these, which 
would kind of be similar to CCleaner on Windows. it cleans out all of the tempt 
files, and at least for me, it has freed up a bunch of unnecessary space taken 
out by these!froi

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 12:58 p. m.,   
escribió:

> How do I clean up after install?  Thanks.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Weiss
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> The download sizes vary between the different devices.  For example I have an 
> iPhone 8 Plus and an iPhone 8 and there are two different downloads required 
> when updating each device.
> I have updated my 8 Plus and the download to disk was just shy of 4 GB, my 
> updated phone shows that the iOS is using almost 10 GB on the actual phone.  
> The downloaded file is a compressed file which is extracted, installed and 
> then cleaned up.  The physical install file is still on my Mac hard drive, 
> but any temporary files used during install should be cleaned up after a 
> successful install onto the phone.
> Jim Weiss
> jimweiss...@gmail.com
> 
> “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer 
> yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you 
> know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go…” | Dr. Seuss
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marie  wrote:
>  
> Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
> download?
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage 
> it says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.
> My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
> Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.
> If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here 
> Auible uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it 
> shows as 2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two 
> apps alone take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a total 
> of 64 apps on my phone.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> amedl...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?
> Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, 
> it is a pretty high percentage of your storage space.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. 
> Utah Phillips
>  
>  
> 礪
> 
> On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> 
> I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
> mail and texts…
> Upgraded to IOS 12.
> I got a space issue when updating Facebook. 
> Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB. 
> Is IOS 12 this big? 
> Thanks,
> Ann
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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
It doesn’t have a number; it’s called Special edition, and it came out March 
2016; this makes it intermediate between the release of the iPhone 6S the 
previous September, and the iPHone 7 September 2016. The SE has the same 
internal components as the 6S, but its size is that of a 5S. Hope this helps 
some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 12:55 p. m.,   
escribió:

> What is IPhone SE, what number? 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:16 PM
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> On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or 
> so it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.
> 
> Gera
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> I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
> mail and texts…
> Upgraded to IOS 12.
> I got a space issue when updating Facebook. 
> Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB. 
> Is IOS 12 this big? 
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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold 
SE is 6. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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What is IPhone SE, what number?  

 

 

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On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or so 
it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m., mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > 
escribió:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and 
limited mail and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 
10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
How do I clean up after install?  Thanks.

 

 

 

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The download sizes vary between the different devices.  For example I have an 
iPhone 8 Plus and an iPhone 8 and there are two different downloads required 
when updating each device.

I have updated my 8 Plus and the download to disk was just shy of 4 GB, my 
updated phone shows that the iOS is using almost 10 GB on the actual phone.  
The downloaded file is a compressed file which is extracted, installed and then 
cleaned up.  The physical install file is still on my Mac hard drive, but any 
temporary files used during install should be cleaned up after a successful 
install onto the phone.

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On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marie mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
download?

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage it 
says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.

My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.

If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here Auible 
uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it shows as 
2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two apps alone 
take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a total of 64 apps 
on my phone.

 

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I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

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It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

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I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
What is IPhone SE, what number?  

 

 

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On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or so 
it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m., mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > 
escribió:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks, IOS updated fine but I then wanted to update Facebook and said space 
issue.  It did not give any other info.

Ann

  

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:22 PM
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Hi,

 

When you choose to update, iOS checks to see if there's enough room. If not, it 
offers to delete some apps and then put them back after the update is complete. 
I've done this a couple of times, and it always worked fine.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 





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On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or so 
it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.



Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m., <  
amedl...@gmail.com> <  amedl...@gmail.com> escribió:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

2018-09-25 Thread Jim Fettgather 
The only other observation that I  have, and I truly do not know the
answer, is that I also have an iPad connected with the same Apple ID,
and dictation is almost always perfect.
Plus, on other iPhone8's that I have tried, the dictation is almost
always flawless.
There is just some variable, either on the local device, or somewhere
in the cloud, that is affecting these outcomes.



On 9/25/18, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> My dictation could also be very frustrating and very inaccurate in any apps
> that I use.itwith. If I use dictation in a quiet room with no other sounds
> heard or music playing.
> It usually works just fine under these circumstances.
>  I thought that in this latest update Applewould improve Siri however I
> guess they haven’t.
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Then I realluy don't know, on my 6S Plus it works just as well when I
>> dictate a text or iMessage as it does if I dictate an email, Whats App
>> message, Facebook Messengewr message or Note using the Notes app.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim
>> Fettgather
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
>>
>> Thanks for asking, I have no case, I am using the built in microphone, and
>> also, dictation works just fine in Outlook for IOS, Whatsapp, and other
>> dictation apps, it is only in messages where it is completely
>> compromised.
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
>>
>> When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or
>> do you use a headset?
>> Do you have a case on your iPhone?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim
>> Fettgather
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
>>
>> Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other iPads
>> and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a wonderful
>> job with dictation in I-Message.
>> On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate,
>> completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
>> How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start fresh,
>> it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really like to be
>> able to count on its dictation capabilities.
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Anna Dresner 
Hi,

When you choose to update, iOS checks to see if there's enough room. If not, it 
offers to delete some apps and then put them back after the update is complete. 
I've done this a couple of times, and it always worked fine.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or 
> so it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.
> 
> Gera
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> El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m.,  > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com>> 
> escribió:
> 
>> I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
>> mail and texts…
>> Upgraded to IOS 12.
>> I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  
>> Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
>> Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB. 
>>  
>> Is IOS 12 this big?  
>> Thanks,
>> Ann
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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or so 
it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m.,   
escribió:

> I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
> mail and texts…
> Upgraded to IOS 12.
> I got a space issue when updating Facebook. 
> Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB. 
> Is IOS 12 this big? 
> Thanks,
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where is the NFC reader on an iphone 7

2018-09-25 Thread llumpkin 
Hi. I'm thinking of getting way around tags and wondered where the NFC
reader is. This is the one that apple pay uses. I have an iphone 7.

 

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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Jim Weiss 
The download sizes vary between the different devices.  For example I have an 
iPhone 8 Plus and an iPhone 8 and there are two different downloads required 
when updating each device.
I have updated my 8 Plus and the download to disk was just shy of 4 GB, my 
updated phone shows that the iOS is using almost 10 GB on the actual phone.  
The downloaded file is a compressed file which is extracted, installed and then 
cleaned up.  The physical install file is still on my Mac hard drive, but any 
temporary files used during install should be cleaned up after a successful 
install onto the phone.
Jim Weiss
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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
> download?
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel <>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage 
> it says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.
> My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
> Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.
> If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here 
> Auible uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it 
> shows as 2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two 
> apps alone take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a total 
> of 64 apps on my phone.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> amedl...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?
>  
> It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?
> Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, 
> it is a pretty high percentage of your storage space.
> HTH,
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>  
>  
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> 礪
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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com <>" > 
> wrote:
> 
>> I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
>> mail and texts…
>> Upgraded to IOS 12.
>> I got a space issue when updating Facebook. 
>> Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
>> Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB. 
>> Is IOS 12 this big? 
>> Thanks,
>> Ann
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

2018-09-25 Thread Ed Worrell 
I am going to throw my voice into the ring…

I have an iPhone X with Face ID and the 10.5 inch screen iPad Pro with Touch 
ID. I also had the iPhone 7+ with Touch ID. I have had many more failures with 
Touch ID with my iPad Pro and iPhone 7+. I actually prefer Face ID as it seems 
to be much quicker than Touch ID ever was for me. I am sure I will get grief 
for my choice but I love Face ID, and would never go back… Of which will not be 
an option in a few years.

Ed   

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> 
> I always seem to be washing my hands but have a dishwasher to wash the dishes 
> 
> 
> OK more seriously: the main reason I turned touch id off was because it 
> caused too much a problem with my banking app, doubtless because of its 
> inconsistency. I could train the finger  print and it would last for a few 
> weeks then I’d have to train it again. I often need hand cream as my fingers 
> get a bit rough so my print may well change quite a lot. Don’t know if this 
> would cause the problem. Still I’ll be having to grapple with face id as I 
> want the xR.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 19:03, M Beggs  wrote:
>> 
>> Angie
>> it must be all the dishes you wash for your old man smile
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Angie Nutt
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> Yes, I’ve had so much trouble with my finger print that I’ve switched that 
>> off.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 03:20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a 
>>> mountain out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times 
>>> everybody who has a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one 
>>> occasion or another, we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite 
>>> sure. So let’s get real. I think there should be an alternative. We 
>>> shouldn’t be forced to use Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an 
>>> iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner or later, he will be using something 
>>> besides touch ID if you want to stay with Apple.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
 
 
 After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
 the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
 iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
> 
> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
> me
> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
> reply, "Good for you."
> 
> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
> opener
> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his 
> home.
> 
> 
> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, 
> I
> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as 
> his
> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet 
> off,
> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
> 
> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
> someone who would care either one way or the other.
> 
> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident 
> in
> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
> for the garage door system.
> 
> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
> (smile)
> 
> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control 
> for
> the opener.
> 
> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them, (Big
> Smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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2018-09-25 Thread Bill Outman 
Hi, list.  

Well I took that Blacweb keyboard with me yesterday and found out it isn't
what I really need.  It's far too large and seems to need to have USB
connection with the computer even to pair.  It didn't have a USB connector
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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Marie 
Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
download?
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage it 
says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.

My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.

If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here Auible 
uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it shows as 
2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two apps alone 
take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a total of 64 apps 
on my phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
amedl...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. Utah 
Phillips

 

 

礪


On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com"  wrote:

  I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
mail and texts…

  Upgraded to IOS 12.

  I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

  Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

  Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

  Is IOS 12 this big?  

  Thanks,

  Ann

   

   

   

   

   

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Re: Big Astreos update

2018-09-25 Thread Fanus 
Hello Mike
Thanks much. Sieghard showed me how to change such a link, so I shall use this 
method in future.
Regards
Fanus



From: Mike B. 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

Hi Fanus,

I'm not the original poster, but here you are:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=1

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Fanus 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

Hello Huma
For some reason I can not download the .mp3 file. Would you mind to change the 
name so that there is a 1 at the end instead of 0, so that it becomes a direct 
download link.
Regards
Fanus


From: Michael Maslo 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:49 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

Hello, I did not get the test flight invite. Is there a way I could get that 
sent to me please? My email address is mmaslo1...@swbell.net. 
  ,, mike 



  On Sep 25, 2018 at 01:06,  wrote:


  Hi everyone,

  I hope y'all are having a good week.

  Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to 
test flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some more 
features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.

  In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
while I was out at the local comic shop.

  Below is the link:

  https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=0

  Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, 
please go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing 
how you would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects and events 
permeating our skies.

  https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts


  A++

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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Marie 
I have an IPhone 6S, an IPhone 8 and an ITouch and the update was a different 
size on each but I believe the largest was 1.53GB.

From: amedl...@gmail.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:10 AM
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Subject: How many GB is IOS 12?

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Big Astreos update

2018-09-25 Thread Fanus 
Hello Sieghard
O, thanks, I thought the creator of the link is the only person who can change 
it. Thanks for this valuable advice.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Big Astreos update

Hi Fanus,

 

Mike already changed it for you, but for the future all you have to do is copy 
the link, paste it into Notepad, change the 0 to a 1, then copy it again to the 
clipboard, press Windows Key+R for the run command and paste it in, then press 
enter.

You could even change the 0 to a 1 in Outlook if you reply to the message, then 
with your cursor after the 1 press shift+home to select from the cursor to the 
beginning of the line, press Control+C to copy, then Windows+R and control+V to 
paste followed by enter. Just thought you might find this useful if you want to 
do this for some other link somebody emails you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

 

Hello Huma

For some reason I can not download the .mp3 file. Would you mind to change the 
name so that there is a 1 at the end instead of 0, so that it becomes a direct 
download link.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: Michael Maslo 

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:49 PM

To: Viphone 

Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

 

Hello, I did not get the test flight invite. Is there a way I could get that 
sent to me please? My email address is mmaslo1...@swbell.net. 

  ,, mike 






  On Sep 25, 2018 at 01:06,  wrote:

  Hi everyone,

   

  I hope y'all are having a good week.

   

  Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to 
test flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some more 
features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.

   

  In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
while I was out at the local comic shop.

   

  Below is the link:

   

  https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=1

   

  Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, 
please go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing 
how you would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects and events 
permeating our skies.

   

  https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts

   

   

  A++

   

  Yuma 

   

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RE: What can cause delays in texts being received?

2018-09-25 Thread sherrywells1157 
I use Verizon on my IPhone 5s  once in a while a text will show up saying 
3 hours ago or 10 minutes ago.  It probably happens once or twice a month so 
isn't a huge problem but is puzzling.  This sometimes happens with voice mails 
too.  I figured it was a Verizon glitch of some sort I have found no patern to 
when it happens.  .  If it happened consistently with the same person or at the 
same time of day, it might be easier to figure out but no such luck.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
Prater
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What can cause delays in texts being received?

I’ve seen this happen sometimes too, especially with Android phones. Maybe 
their model of phone is slower at receiving texts, or TMobile may have spent 
some time sending the message.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I was wondering, what are some reasons texts can be delayed being 
> received? Does anyone have any ideas on this?
> 
> 
> For instance, I have T-Mobile, and my iPhone 6S. I regularly text 
> someone who uses T-Mobile. As well as someone who uses Metro PCS. Both 
> of these people have Android phones.
> 
> 
> I would think that rather or not you have an Android, or an iPhone, 
> this shouldn't matter. But I don't really know.
> 
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
> I text my friend with AT, around 11:00, last night. They received it 
> at 4:30 this morning. Sense it was more of a random type of text, they 
> were bothered that it came at that time of night. I knew I didn't text 
> them at that time. But this isn't the first time this has happened.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?

2018-09-25 Thread Craig Werner 
Greetings to the list.

I am using the BARD app on iOS 11.4.1, and I notice that when I go to
"Settings -> General -> iPhone Usage," the BARD app fills only 5.5MB
even though two relatively full-length books have been dowloaded.
"Documents and Data" under the app take up only a few kilobytes of
storage.  Where on the iPhone are my two books kept?

Thank you very much for all help.

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Re: Seeking Advice for a Classical Music Service

2018-09-25 Thread Craig Werner 
My sincere thanks to everyone who has chimed in on this thread.  I
have an Apple Music subscription myself.  The chief reason for my
keeping it is the large database of classical music recordings it
contains.  However, sometimes, as I said, the search results are not
granular enough.  The other day, while perusing the library results, a
composer's name was omitted from the list of result fields.  This is
the kind of omission a listener to other genres might not usually
worry about, but in a classical music context involving more than one
composer, it could be crucial.  I may try the Primephonic service, and
if I do, I'll report to the list.  For those who missed it,
Primephonic is devoted exclusively to classical music recordings.  I
know of no other online music service that claims  this
specialization.  Unfortunately, the app gets very poor ratings.

Craig

On 9/17/18, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> I use Apple Music, which works fine when selecting and searching from
> iPhone. But when using HomePod to request albums, composers or artists, Siri
> has great difficulty recognising “foreign” names - namely most of them!
> Did Siri vote for brexit to keep foreigners out?
> Harry
>
>> On 17 Sep 2018, at 13:50, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried Apple Music?
>> I don’t’ use it, but they might have a well labelled collection.
>>
>> I’ve not run across any specifically classical music services with that
>> kind of search capacity.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Craig Werner
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 5:14 AM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Seeking Advice for a Classical Music Service
>>
>> Hello, everyone.
>>
>> As a serious listener to classical music for sixty-five years, I am
>> looking for the best selection of classical music on a music service that
>> offers an iOs app.  Last time I did a serious check of services, Tidal was
>> the leader in terms of number and range of selections and also in terms of
>> granular search capability.  I found that music services fell down in the
>> areas of proper labeling of artists, opus numbers, recording dates, and so
>> on.  It would be wonderful, for instance, to find a service that would
>> allow me to search for and listen to a particular Ba- prelude and fugue
>> after searching for it by BWV catalogue listing.  Does anyone have
>> recommendations for such a service?  Has anyone tried Primephonic, either
>> using the app or the PC version?  Thanks for all help.
>>
>> Craig
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Re: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

2018-09-25 Thread Anthony Vece 
My dictation could also be very frustrating and very inaccurate in any apps 
that I use.itwith. If I use dictation in a quiet room with no other sounds 
heard or music playing.
It usually works just fine under these circumstances.
 I thought that in this latest update Applewould improve Siri however I guess 
they haven’t.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Then I realluy don't know, on my 6S Plus it works just as well when I dictate 
> a text or iMessage as it does if I dictate an email, Whats App message, 
> Facebook Messengewr message or Note using the Notes app.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
> Fettgather
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
> 
> Thanks for asking, I have no case, I am using the built in microphone, and 
> also, dictation works just fine in Outlook for IOS, Whatsapp, and other 
> dictation apps, it is only in messages where it is completely compromised.
> Thanks
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
> 
> When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
> you use a headset?
> Do you have a case on your iPhone?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
> Fettgather
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
> 
> Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other iPads and 
> iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a wonderful job 
> with dictation in I-Message.
> On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate, 
> completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
> How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start fresh, 
> it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really like to be able 
> to count on its dictation capabilities.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
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RE: Apple Watch side on series 4

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Len,

That really sucks, when you expect a new toy and then it's delayed that is 
almost like Christmas gets postponed *smile*

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

It's really flush on the series 4, I was suppose to receive mines
yesterday but it's not coming until Thursday.

On 9/25/18, Todd W  wrote:
> Hi Mary,
>
> I have laid my hands on a new Series 4 and while the button is blush it’s
> still easy to locate.  Don’t think you’d have any trouble with it.  It’s
> still very tactile when pressing.
>
> Todd
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:04 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> I don't know if they made it more flush on the 4, but on my Apple Watch 2
>> it is very easily felt, certainly no more difficult than feeling the
>> power
>> button on an iPhone.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4
>>
>> I meant the side button. The guy was talking about how it was really hard
>> to feel. Or not possible.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> >
>> > Do you mean the side button or the digital crown? On the Apple Watch 4
>> the digital crown does have haptic feedback.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:45 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4
>> >
>> > OK, thanks. No, I have not seen AirPod Case. I do not own the AirPods.
>> > I
>> wasn’t up for spending that much money for a pair of Bluetooth headphones
>> or I should say earbuds. But I am thinking seriously about the watch.
>> > Mary
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Aleeha Dudley
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>> >> Hi,
>> >> There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power
>> button. It is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you
>> are looking for, you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods
>> case,
>> if you have seen that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is
>> definitely tactile enough to find.
>> >> Aleeha
>> >>
>> >>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new
>> >>> Apple
>> Watch. I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic
>> feedback. I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted
>> reviewer said it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but
>> it
>> still worked because you can just touch in the general area and it works,
>> or words to that effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that
>> has
>> the watch, and how you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile
>> yesterday,
>> but they didn’t have any on display.
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RE: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
No, turning it off for 30 seconds or so is perfectly fine. You could try a 
reset network settings which sometimes can resolve issues where you think it 
has nothing to do with it. Just remember you need your WiFi password and 
reconnect to your WiFi after you do the reset network settings and if you have 
called your iPhone something like Casey’s iPhone you need to go to Settings > 
General > About and double tap on the name to change it again, during the reset 
network settings whatever name you gave it will be reset to simply “iPhone”.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage

Hi if you mean turning it off for A while after the update to IOS 12 I did if 
for A short while.
So maybe I should power it off longer?
Or is that not rebooting the phone?
Would network settings fix that issue?




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage

Makes no difference what version of iOS the two phones are on.
Have you rebooted your phone to see if that fixes the issue?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:48 PM
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Subject: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage

Hi A friend and I open the messages pn the home screen.
And I go to compoz and then when the two field comes up O put in his contact 
information to message him.
Once I have done that I go do to record audio and then record my message.
Well he does the same thing to reply to me.
Now when listening to his messages they will play and then I will hear my phone 
say sorry there is something wrong with the app.
Now I am running IOS 12 and he is not could this be why this is happening?
I have turned I messages off and back on again as well and that didn’t fix it.
So how can you correct this if at all?




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RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Then I realluy don't know, on my 6S Plus it works just as well when I dictate a 
text or iMessage as it does if I dictate an email, Whats App message, Facebook 
Messengewr message or Note using the Notes app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

Thanks for asking, I have no case, I am using the built in microphone, and 
also, dictation works just fine in Outlook for IOS, Whatsapp, and other 
dictation apps, it is only in messages where it is completely compromised.
Thanks

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Weitzel
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Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
you use a headset?
Do you have a case on your iPhone?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other iPads and 
iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a wonderful job with 
dictation in I-Message.
On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate, 
completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start fresh, it's 
the app that I use most frequently, and I would really like to be able to count 
on its dictation capabilities.
Thanks for any suggestions.

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Just because the download itself is 2.2 or 2.4 Gb doesn't mean that is how much 
space the OS takes up after it is installed. Indows 10 is a 4.something Gb 
download, but after it is installed the OS takes up a lot more than that.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

I have only 32 GB's, with maybe 20 in reserve. I am going to check that. It 
seems like last night it said 2 something gb's. I was surprised it was that 
much but then realized maybe that is why it is doing all that it is doing. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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amedl...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:13 AM
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Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

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On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com  " 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and 
limited mail and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 
10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage it 
says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.
My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.
If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here Auible 
uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it shows as 
2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two apps alone 
take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a total of 64 apps 
on my phone.

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amedl...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.


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Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?
Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space.
HTH,
Richard





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On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com" 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…
Upgraded to IOS 12.
I got a space issue when updating Facebook.
Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.
Is IOS 12 this big?
Thanks,
Ann





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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold 
I have only 32 GB's, with maybe 20 in reserve. I am going to check that. It 
seems like last night it said 2 something gb's. I was surprised it was that 
much but then realized maybe that is why it is doing all that it is doing. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
amedl...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

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Phillips

 

 

礪


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mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and 
limited mail and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 
10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold 
I think it said how many GB's, best I recall, maybe 2 plus? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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amedl...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How many GB is IOS 12?

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

2018-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold 
Arlene, I tried pressing Home Button - have always used Power for time. When I 
pressed it, I got my notification.

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:35 AM
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Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

Thanks, Simon.

- Original Message - 
From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone   
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

You could go back to a previous update such as 11.41, but you only have 
a certain window to do it in, which in this case is past. I think you only have 
a few days after you update to the current version to go back down.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2018, at 5:32 AM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:



Sieghard, or anyone, else for that matter, this may seem like a 
silly question to  ask, but not silly enough if the answer is that potentially 
could matter, so I'll ask. If it did matter it would be good to keep in mind, 
maybe even with updating to a newer version on either the phone of the 
computer. So the question, do you think it could cause problems if you're 2 or 
3 versions behind, being on your favorite update, not really wanting to upgrade 
to keep for a while what you have? If you're in that situation, where the phone 
is concerned would it be better to go up one version at a time, if it was 
possible? I'm thinking that it wouldn't be possible but I could be wrong, but 
it seems to me once there's a current upgrade as in ios 12, one couldn't update 
to 11.4 if they were on the previous version before, since as far as what I 
know you wouldn't have access to that previous version, unless there's some 
place to find those previous versions. With my limited knowledge that's 
something I don't know about, so thanks for the answer to that from you 
experts.  and as far as how it is on the 2 out of the 3 iphone se phones we 
have it does seem to be working well. We'll probably update the third one 
pretty soon. while it's such a minor thing, we love checking the time on that 
phone with touching the home button, but that's such a minor thing. It's funny 
the things we get so use too. touching the power button is just as simple.
 
Arlene 

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From: Sieghard Weitzel   
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating 
to iOS12



Hi Mario,



Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 
because on my 6S Plus which has the same processor as your SE I find everything 
is just a bit faster and snappier.

As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would 
agree, first I would ask when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I 
would ask whether they closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and 
rebooted the phone. I would also ask if they rebooted the phones after 
upgrading and possibly suggest a reset network settings first. This may or may 
not help, but all it involved is having to reenter your WiFi password and 
renaming the phone to what you want it to be in Settings > General > About, so 
all in all it’s a pretty easy process and if it fixes the issue then it would 
save them a lot of time. If it doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore 
the phone, set it up as a new device first and make sure all is well, then 
restore your backup a day or two later. If the problems return then you know 
that the backup also restored the problems which sometimes can happen and the 
only way then is to restore again, set up as a new phone and manually put 
everything back the way you like.



Regards,

Sieghard



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  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mário Navarro
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Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating 
to iOS12








Hi.

RE: Watch OS5 and Siri Raise to Speak

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Thanks, I will give this a try.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Todd W
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:14 AM
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Subject: Watch OS5 and Siri Raise to Speak

Sieghard,

Just an update on the thread regarding Siri raise to speak in the new Watch 
OS... Upon more research I’ve found that the watch must be raised to a vertical 
position, for the raise to speak to activate properly.  Raising the watch face 
perpendicular to the floor and then speaking seems to work pretty consistently. 
 I’d been trying to use it just by raising my arm and the watch was in a more 
horizontal position, parallel to the floor which didn’t work well at all.

Todd
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RE: Big Astreos update

2018-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Fanus,

Mike already changed it for you, but for the future all you have to do is copy 
the link, paste it into Notepad, change the 0 to a 1, then copy it again to the 
clipboard, press Windows Key+R for the run command and paste it in, then press 
enter.
You could even change the 0 to a 1 in Outlook if you reply to the message, then 
with your cursor after the 1 press shift+home to select from the cursor to the 
beginning of the line, press Control+C to copy, then Windows+R and control+V to 
paste followed by enter. Just thought you might find this useful if you want to 
do this for some other link somebody emails you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

Hello Huma
For some reason I can not download the .mp3 file. Would you mind to change the 
name so that there is a 1 at the end instead of 0, so that it becomes a direct 
download link.
Regards
Fanus


From: Michael Maslo
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:49 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

Hello, I did not get the test flight invite. Is there a way I could get that 
sent to me please? My email address is 
mmaslo1...@swbell.net.
  ,, mike



On Sep 25, 2018 at 01:06,  wrote:
Hi everyone,

I hope y'all are having a good week.

Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to test 
flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some more 
features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.

In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
while I was out at the local comic shop.

Below is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=1

Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, please 
go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing how you 
would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects and events 
permeating our skies.

https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts


A++

Yuma

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An FTP client for iPHone?

2018-09-25 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
Anyone know, or used, an ftp CLIENT FOR iOS? I’d like to be able to browse to 
either the book, music or whatever wanting to download is, download, and once 
that’s done, import it into voice Dream Reader. Thanks for info.whater wav

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Re: Pandora

2018-09-25 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
I wouldn't worry about changes to Pandora that we don't know yet if any will 
happen. I'm sure the same developers that have worked on the app will still be 
there. I do have questions about what this all means, but they aren't relevant 
to the Pandora app or this list so I'll leave it at that.

Regards,
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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
> 
> I wonder what this will mean for the Pandora app. I find it much more 
> accessible to use Pandora been serious exam.
> 
> Johnna Simmons
> 
> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Anthony Vece  > wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it was on the news this morning.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Robert Wright > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you heard that Sirius/XM has purchased Pandora?
>>>  
>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! 
>>> 
>>> *** 
>>>  
>>> From: Richard Turner 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: Pandora
>>>  
>>> You have to play the station you want, stop it, go into Siri settings and 
>>> you will find a suggested shortcut for that station.
>>> Then, you can record a phrase like play Joni Mitchell radio and from then 
>>> on, you can have Siri play your chosen station.
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
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>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Steve & Shannon Cook
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:19 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Pandora
>>>  
>>> I have an iPhone 7 with the current IOS.  I have updated all of my apps for 
>>> IOS 12.  I know with 12 you can ask Pandora to play using SIRI, I can do 
>>> this.  My question is how do you have Pandora play a certain station. 
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Watch OS5 and Siri Raise to Speak

2018-09-25 Thread Todd W 
Sieghard,

Just an update on the thread regarding Siri raise to speak in the new Watch
OS... Upon more research I’ve found that the watch must be raised to a
vertical position, for the raise to speak to activate properly.  Raising
the watch face perpendicular to the floor and then speaking seems to work
pretty consistently.  I’d been trying to use it just by raising my arm and
the watch was in a more horizontal position, parallel to the floor which
didn’t work well at all.

Todd

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

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礪


On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com  " 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

2018-09-25 Thread lenron brown 
It's really flush on the series 4, I was suppose to receive mines
yesterday but it's not coming until Thursday.

On 9/25/18, Todd W  wrote:
> Hi Mary,
>
> I have laid my hands on a new Series 4 and while the button is blush it’s
> still easy to locate.  Don’t think you’d have any trouble with it.  It’s
> still very tactile when pressing.
>
> Todd
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:04 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> I don't know if they made it more flush on the 4, but on my Apple Watch 2
>> it is very easily felt, certainly no more difficult than feeling the
>> power
>> button on an iPhone.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4
>>
>> I meant the side button. The guy was talking about how it was really hard
>> to feel. Or not possible.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> >
>> > Do you mean the side button or the digital crown? On the Apple Watch 4
>> the digital crown does have haptic feedback.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:45 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4
>> >
>> > OK, thanks. No, I have not seen AirPod Case. I do not own the AirPods.
>> > I
>> wasn’t up for spending that much money for a pair of Bluetooth headphones
>> or I should say earbuds. But I am thinking seriously about the watch.
>> > Mary
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Aleeha Dudley
>> >> 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >> There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power
>> button. It is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you
>> are looking for, you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods
>> case,
>> if you have seen that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is
>> definitely tactile enough to find.
>> >> Aleeha
>> >>
>> >>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new
>> >>> Apple
>> Watch. I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic
>> feedback. I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted
>> reviewer said it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but
>> it
>> still worked because you can just touch in the general area and it works,
>> or words to that effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that
>> has
>> the watch, and how you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile
>> yesterday,
>> but they didn’t have any on display.
>> >>> Mary
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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks.  I don’t know how to update to IOS 12 using ITunes because phone 
already updated to IOS 12.  I have no idea how to go back.

 I read that it is better to update with ITunes rather than on phone.

  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

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On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com  " 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage

2018-09-25 Thread Casey 
Hi if you mean turning it off for A while after the update to IOS 12 I did if 
for A short while.
So maybe I should power it off longer?
Or is that not rebooting the phone?
Would network settings fix that issue?
 
 
 
 
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Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage
 
Makes no difference what version of iOS the two phones are on.
Have you rebooted your phone to see if that fixes the issue?
 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Casey
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Subject: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage
 
Hi A friend and I open the messages pn the home screen.
And I go to compoz and then when the two field comes up O put in his contact 
information to message him.
Once I have done that I go do to record audio and then record my message.
Well he does the same thing to reply to me.
Now when listening to his messages they will play and then I will hear my phone 
say sorry there is something wrong with the app.
Now I am running IOS 12 and he is not could this be why this is happening?
I have turned I messages off and back on again as well and that didn’t fix it.
So how can you correct this if at all?
 
 
 
 
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Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread Richard Turner 
It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?
Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space.
HTH,
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On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com" 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…
Upgraded to IOS 12.
I got a space issue when updating Facebook.
Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.
Is IOS 12 this big?
Thanks,
Ann






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Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

2018-09-25 Thread Kimber Gardner 
I don't believe it's possible to "step up" the way you're describing.
I think it would be a all or nothing type of thing.

Also, just to update, a reset of network settings didn't help so it's
looks like I will need to set up as a new device. I
'm not looking forward to that and so will wait until the freezing
problem really gets on my last nerve. 

On 9/25/18, Arlene  wrote:
> Sieghard, or anyone, else for that matter, this may seem like a silly
> question to  ask, but not silly enough if the answer is that potentially
> could matter, so I'll ask. If it did matter it would be good to keep in
> mind, maybe even with updating to a newer version on either the phone of the
> computer. So the question, do you think it could cause problems if you're 2
> or 3 versions behind, being on your favorite update, not really wanting to
> upgrade to keep for a while what you have? If you're in that situation,
> where the phone is concerned would it be better to go up one version at a
> time, if it was possible? I'm thinking that it wouldn't be possible but I
> could be wrong, but it seems to me once there's a current upgrade as in ios
> 12, one couldn't update to 11.4 if they were on the previous version before,
> since as far as what I know you wouldn't have access to that previous
> version, unless there's some place to find those previous versions. With my
> limited knowledge that's something I don't know about, so thanks for the
> answer to that from you experts.  and as far as how it is on the 2 out of
> the 3 iphone se phones we have it does seem to be working well. We'll
> probably update the third one pretty soon. while it's such a minor thing, we
> love checking the time on that phone with touching the home button, but
> that's such a minor thing. It's funny the things we get so use too. touching
> the power button is just as simple.
>
> Arlene
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Sieghard Weitzel
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:33 AM
>   Subject: RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12
>
>
>   Hi Mario,
>
>
>
>   Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 because on my 6S Plus
> which has the same processor as your SE I find everything is just a bit
> faster and snappier.
>
>   As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would agree, first I would
> ask when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I would ask whether
> they closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and rebooted the
> phone. I would also ask if they rebooted the phones after upgrading and
> possibly suggest a reset network settings first. This may or may not help,
> but all it involved is having to reenter your WiFi password and renaming the
> phone to what you want it to be in Settings > General > About, so all in all
> it’s a pretty easy process and if it fixes the issue then it would save them
> a lot of time. If it doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore the
> phone, set it up as a new device first and make sure all is well, then
> restore your backup a day or two later. If the problems return then you know
> that the backup also restored the problems which sometimes can happen and
> the only way then is to restore again, set up as a new phone and manually
> put everything back the way you like.
>
>
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Sieghard
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Mário Navarro
>   Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:31 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Hi.
>   This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before
> doing a total reset: DFU Mode.
>   I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to me
> on your phone.
>   And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
>   But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what I
> did...
>   Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in
> IOS 10.
>   cheers.
>
>
>
>   Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing
> strange app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but
> rather the screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any
> activity is to remove the app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has
> happened to me in the native mail app and the Bard app.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it?
> It's not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

2018-09-25 Thread pablocmd2014 
I have an iPhone 10 and I have the same problem. I am very disappointed with 
the dictation feature. It used to be better before.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LARA)
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

I also have an iPhone 8 and I am experiencing the same problem. It is also 
adding words to the sentences that I have not spoken. I’m not sure what is 
causing this. I have had an iPhone 5 six and seven and have use cases on all of 
them and have never experienced this before. I have even taken it to the Apple 
store so that they could see if something was going wrong with the speaker and 
according to them the hardware with my phone is great.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
> you use a headset?
> Do you have a case on your iPhone?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
> 
> Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other 
> iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a 
> wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
> On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate, 
> completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
> How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start 
> fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really 
> like to be able to count on its dictation capabilities.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

2018-09-25 Thread Todd W 
Hi Mary,

I have laid my hands on a new Series 4 and while the button is blush it’s
still easy to locate.  Don’t think you’d have any trouble with it.  It’s
still very tactile when pressing.

Todd

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:04 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> I don't know if they made it more flush on the 4, but on my Apple Watch 2
> it is very easily felt, certainly no more difficult than feeling the power
> button on an iPhone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4
>
> I meant the side button. The guy was talking about how it was really hard
> to feel. Or not possible.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> >
> > Do you mean the side button or the digital crown? On the Apple Watch 4
> the digital crown does have haptic feedback.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Mary Otten
> > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:45 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4
> >
> > OK, thanks. No, I have not seen AirPod Case. I do not own the AirPods. I
> wasn’t up for spending that much money for a pair of Bluetooth headphones
> or I should say earbuds. But I am thinking seriously about the watch.
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Aleeha Dudley 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power
> button. It is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you
> are looking for, you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods case,
> if you have seen that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is
> definitely tactile enough to find.
> >> Aleeha
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new Apple
> Watch. I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic
> feedback. I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted
> reviewer said it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but it
> still worked because you can just touch in the general area and it works,
> or words to that effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that has
> the watch, and how you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile yesterday,
> but they didn’t have any on display.
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Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

2018-09-25 Thread Kimber Gardner 
Bard has the Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics book. It's the commercial
version and is read by Dan Harris. He gives the url for accessing the
meditations pretty close to the start of the book. Here is a link,

https://www.10percenthappier.com/access

On 9/25/18, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> You can also get the book from Apple Books app
> Harry
>
>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 18:15, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>> Yes, the book is from Audible, and Dan Harris, the narrator, reads the
>> link. You type what he says into your computer.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Anna,
>>> OK, I’m really confused now. We’re talking about an audible book, right?
>>> So somebody is reading this book say on your phone. I just don’t know how
>>> to translate a phone audio only thing into links. Maybe there’s a PDF
>>> thing in my audible library.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

 Hi Mary,

 There is a link early in the book. it tells you that all the meditations
 are in the appendix and gives you a link to unlock the content in the
 app. Again, this is the book Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics.

 Best,
 Anna




> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Hi Anna,
> I did read that book on audible. I suppose the book came out before the
> app. Where did you go to find a code?
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The Meditation Basics course is free, and if you get the book
>> Meditation for fidgety Skeptics from Audible, you get a code which
>> makes its content free. There are also free samples from a lot of the
>> meditation courses. There may be more, but that's what I know about.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Kimberly 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long
>>> after the app was discussed here on this list and have been working
>>> my way through the meditation basics ever since.
>>>
>>> One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available
>>> in the app are also available on YouTube.
>>>
>>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it
>>> that we go on.—Annie Proulx
>>>
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty
  wrote:

 Anna,

 Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the
 10% Happier app.

 I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then
 rescinded that subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual
 purchase fee, not weekly or monthly. I was just unwilling to commit
 to the roughly $100 purchase before using the app for quite some
 time.

 Is there enough standard content available without additional
 content purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using
 the app? If later on I do purchase the additional content
 subscription, is that  content VoiceOver accessible? (I found that
 for HeadSpace, subscription content is not accessible.)

 My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much
 standard content available. But, it's early in my exploration.

 Thanks so much.

 Richard Petty

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 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
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 Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than
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 Hello,

 A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I
 mentioned 10% Happier. They released an update today that fixes a
 lot of accessibility issues. I haven't played with it long enough to
 know whether everything is accessible, but it's definitely much
 easier to see what courses are available, choose one, and choose a
 particular meditation. I'm thrilled that the developers are taking
 accessibility seriously.

 Best,
 Anna

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Re: Pandora

2018-09-25 Thread Johnna Simmons 
I wonder what this will mean for the Pandora app. I find it much more 
accessible to use Pandora been serious exam.

Johnna Simmons

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>> Have you heard that Sirius/XM has purchased Pandora?
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>> on, you can have Siri play your chosen station.
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Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

2018-09-25 Thread Lois Butterfield 
Wow, I’ve had no trouble with my 7 since the update.  I guess I’m just lucky?

Take care,
Lois

From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

You could go back to a previous update such as 11.41, but you only have a 
certain window to do it in, which in this case is past. I think you only have a 
few days after you update to the current version to go back down.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2018, at 5:32 AM, Arlene  wrote:


  Sieghard, or anyone, else for that matter, this may seem like a silly 
question to  ask, but not silly enough if the answer is that potentially could 
matter, so I'll ask. If it did matter it would be good to keep in mind, maybe 
even with updating to a newer version on either the phone of the computer. So 
the question, do you think it could cause problems if you're 2 or 3 versions 
behind, being on your favorite update, not really wanting to upgrade to keep 
for a while what you have? If you're in that situation, where the phone is 
concerned would it be better to go up one version at a time, if it was 
possible? I'm thinking that it wouldn't be possible but I could be wrong, but 
it seems to me once there's a current upgrade as in ios 12, one couldn't update 
to 11.4 if they were on the previous version before, since as far as what I 
know you wouldn't have access to that previous version, unless there's some 
place to find those previous versions. With my limited knowledge that's 
something I don't know about, so thanks for the answer to that from you 
experts.  and as far as how it is on the 2 out of the 3 iphone se phones we 
have it does seem to be working well. We'll probably update the third one 
pretty soon. while it's such a minor thing, we love checking the time on that 
phone with touching the home button, but that's such a minor thing. It's funny 
the things we get so use too. touching the power button is just as simple.

  Arlene 
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From: Sieghard Weitzel 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12


Hi Mario,

 

Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 because on my 6S Plus 
which has the same processor as your SE I find everything is just a bit faster 
and snappier.

As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would agree, first I would 
ask when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I would ask whether they 
closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and rebooted the phone. I 
would also ask if they rebooted the phones after upgrading and possibly suggest 
a reset network settings first. This may or may not help, but all it involved 
is having to reenter your WiFi password and renaming the phone to what you want 
it to be in Settings > General > About, so all in all it’s a pretty easy 
process and if it fixes the issue then it would save them a lot of time. If it 
doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore the phone, set it up as a new 
device first and make sure all is well, then restore your backup a day or two 
later. If the problems return then you know that the backup also restored the 
problems which sometimes can happen and the only way then is to restore again, 
set up as a new phone and manually put everything back the way you like.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mário Navarro
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

 

 

 


Hi.
This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before doing 
a total reset: DFU Mode.
I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to me 
on your phone.
And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what I 
did...
Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in IOS 
10.
cheers.

 

Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:

  Hi all, 

   

  Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing 
strange app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather 
the screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to 
remove the app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in 
the native mail app and the Bard app.

   

  Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? 
It's not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.

   

  Thanks for your thoughts.

  Sent from Kimber's iPhone 

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Re: Big Astreos update

2018-09-25 Thread Mike B. 
Hi Fanus,

I'm not the original poster, but here you are:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=1

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Fanus
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update


Hello Huma
For some reason I can not download the .mp3 file. Would you mind to change 
the name so that there is a 1 at the end instead of 0, so that it becomes a 
direct download link.
Regards
Fanus


From: Michael Maslo
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:49 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

Hello, I did not get the test flight invite. Is there a way I could get that 
sent to me please? My email address is mmaslo1...@swbell.net.
  ,, mike



  On Sep 25, 2018 at 01:06,  wrote:


  Hi everyone,

  I hope y'all are having a good week.

  Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to 
test flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some 
more features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.

  In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
while I was out at the local comic shop.

  Below is the link:

  https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=0

  Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, 
please go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in 
hearing how you would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects 
and events permeating our skies.

  https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts


  A++

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Re: Big Astreos update

2018-09-25 Thread Fanus 
Hello Huma
For some reason I can not download the .mp3 file. Would you mind to change the 
name so that there is a 1 at the end instead of 0, so that it becomes a direct 
download link.
Regards
Fanus


From: Michael Maslo 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:49 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Big Astreos update

Hello, I did not get the test flight invite. Is there a way I could get that 
sent to me please? My email address is mmaslo1...@swbell.net. 
  ,, mike 



  On Sep 25, 2018 at 01:06,  wrote:


  Hi everyone,

  I hope y'all are having a good week.

  Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to 
test flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some more 
features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.

  In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
while I was out at the local comic shop.

  Below is the link:

  https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=0

  Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, 
please go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing 
how you would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects and events 
permeating our skies.

  https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts


  A++

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Re: Big Astreos update

2018-09-25 Thread Michael Maslo 
 
 

 Hello, I did not get the test flight invite. Is there a way I could get that 
sent to me please? My email address is mmaslo1...@swbell.net. 

  ,, mike  
 
 

 
 
>  
> On Sep 25, 2018 at 01:06,  mailto:jamy...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
>  
>  
>
> Hi everyone,
>  
>
>  
> I hope y'all are having a good week.
>  
>
>  
> Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to 
> test flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some 
> more features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.
>  
>
>  
> In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
> while I was out at the local comic shop.
>  
>
>  
> Below is the link:
>  
>
>  
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=0
>  
>
>  
> Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, 
> please go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing 
> how you would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects and 
> events permeating our skies.
>  
>
>  
> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
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>
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>
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Re: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

2018-09-25 Thread Laury, Shawnese (LARA) 
I also have an iPhone 8 and I am experiencing the same problem. It is also 
adding words to the sentences that I have not spoken. I’m not sure what is 
causing this. I have had an iPhone 5 six and seven and have use cases on all of 
them and have never experienced this before. I have even taken it to the Apple 
store so that they could see if something was going wrong with the speaker and 
according to them the hardware with my phone is great.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
> you use a headset?
> Do you have a case on your iPhone?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
> Fettgather
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message
> 
> Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other
> iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a
> wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
> On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate,
> completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
> How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start
> fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really
> like to be able to count on its dictation capabilities.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
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Question about WhatsAPP

2018-09-25 Thread 'evergreenwoods' via VIPhone 
Hello,

 

Is there any special way to answer a WhatsAPP call? I tried to answer as any 
other call, tapping twice with 2 fingers, but it didn’t work out.

Please, explain.

Rena

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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

2018-09-25 Thread Angie Nutt 
I always seem to be washing my hands but have a dishwasher to wash the dishes 


OK more seriously: the main reason I turned touch id off was because it caused 
too much a problem with my banking app, doubtless because of its inconsistency. 
I could train the finger  print and it would last for a few weeks then I’d have 
to train it again. I often need hand cream as my fingers get a bit rough so my 
print may well change quite a lot. Don’t know if this would cause the problem. 
Still I’ll be having to grapple with face id as I want the xR.

All the best
Angie


> On 24 Sep 2018, at 19:03, M Beggs  wrote:
> 
> Angie
> it must be all the dishes you wash for your old man smile
> 
> -Original Message- From: Angie Nutt
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> Yes, I’ve had so much trouble with my finger print that I’ve switched that 
> off.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 03:20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain 
>> out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has 
>> a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, 
>> we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get 
>> real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use 
>> Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner 
>> or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay 
>> with Apple.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
>>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
>>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
 
 A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
 me
 how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
 reply, "Good for you."
 
 Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
 opener
 which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
 
 
 Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
 feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
 complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
 Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as 
 his
 bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
 the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
 
 I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
 spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
 someone who would care either one way or the other.
 
 What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident 
 in
 Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
 for the garage door system.
 
 He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
 (smile)
 
 He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
 the opener.
 
 Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them, (Big
 Smile).
 
 Mark
 
 
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How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited
mail and texts.

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.


Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

2018-09-25 Thread Jim Fettgather 
Thanks for asking, I have no case, I am using the built in microphone, and 
also, dictation works just fine in Outlook for IOS, Whatsapp, and other 
dictation apps, it is only in messages where it is completely compromised.
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
you use a headset?
Do you have a case on your iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other
iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a
wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate,
completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start
fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really
like to be able to count on its dictation capabilities.
Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

2018-09-25 Thread Arlene 
Thanks, Simon.
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:45 AM
  Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12


  You could go back to a previous update such as 11.41, but you only have a 
certain window to do it in, which in this case is past. I think you only have a 
few days after you update to the current version to go back down.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 25, 2018, at 5:32 AM, Arlene  wrote:


Sieghard, or anyone, else for that matter, this may seem like a silly 
question to  ask, but not silly enough if the answer is that potentially could 
matter, so I'll ask. If it did matter it would be good to keep in mind, maybe 
even with updating to a newer version on either the phone of the computer. So 
the question, do you think it could cause problems if you're 2 or 3 versions 
behind, being on your favorite update, not really wanting to upgrade to keep 
for a while what you have? If you're in that situation, where the phone is 
concerned would it be better to go up one version at a time, if it was 
possible? I'm thinking that it wouldn't be possible but I could be wrong, but 
it seems to me once there's a current upgrade as in ios 12, one couldn't update 
to 11.4 if they were on the previous version before, since as far as what I 
know you wouldn't have access to that previous version, unless there's some 
place to find those previous versions. With my limited knowledge that's 
something I don't know about, so thanks for the answer to that from you 
experts.  and as far as how it is on the 2 out of the 3 iphone se phones we 
have it does seem to be working well. We'll probably update the third one 
pretty soon. while it's such a minor thing, we love checking the time on that 
phone with touching the home button, but that's such a minor thing. It's funny 
the things we get so use too. touching the power button is just as simple.

Arlene 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:33 AM
  Subject: RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12


  Hi Mario,



  Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 because on my 6S Plus 
which has the same processor as your SE I find everything is just a bit faster 
and snappier.

  As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would agree, first I would 
ask when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I would ask whether they 
closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and rebooted the phone. I 
would also ask if they rebooted the phones after upgrading and possibly suggest 
a reset network settings first. This may or may not help, but all it involved 
is having to reenter your WiFi password and renaming the phone to what you want 
it to be in Settings > General > About, so all in all it’s a pretty easy 
process and if it fixes the issue then it would save them a lot of time. If it 
doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore the phone, set it up as a new 
device first and make sure all is well, then restore your backup a day or two 
later. If the problems return then you know that the backup also restored the 
problems which sometimes can happen and the only way then is to restore again, 
set up as a new phone and manually put everything back the way you like.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mário Navarro
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:31 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12








  Hi.
  This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before 
doing a total reset: DFU Mode.
  I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to 
me on your phone.
  And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
  But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what 
I did...
  Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in 
IOS 10.
  cheers.



  Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:

Hi all, 



Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing 
strange app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather 
the screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to 
remove the app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in 
the native mail app and the Bard app.



Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? 
It's not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.



Thanks for your thoughts.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone 

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Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

2018-09-25 Thread 'Simon W' via VIPhone 
You could go back to a previous update such as 11.41, but you only have a 
certain window to do it in, which in this case is past. I think you only have a 
few days after you update to the current version to go back down.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 5:32 AM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> Sieghard, or anyone, else for that matter, this may seem like a silly 
> question to  ask, but not silly enough if the answer is that potentially 
> could matter, so I'll ask. If it did matter it would be good to keep in mind, 
> maybe even with updating to a newer version on either the phone of the 
> computer. So the question, do you think it could cause problems if you're 2 
> or 3 versions behind, being on your favorite update, not really wanting to 
> upgrade to keep for a while what you have? If you're in that situation, where 
> the phone is concerned would it be better to go up one version at a time, if 
> it was possible? I'm thinking that it wouldn't be possible but I could be 
> wrong, but it seems to me once there's a current upgrade as in ios 12, one 
> couldn't update to 11.4 if they were on the previous version before, since as 
> far as what I know you wouldn't have access to that previous version, unless 
> there's some  place to find those previous versions. With my limited 
> knowledge that's something I don't know about, so thanks for the answer to 
> that from you experts.  and as far as how it is on the 2 out of the 3 iphone 
> se phones we have it does seem to be working well. We'll probably update the 
> third one pretty soon. while it's such a minor thing, we love checking the 
> time on that phone with touching the home button, but that's such a minor 
> thing. It's funny the  things we get so use too. touching the power button is 
> just as simple.
>  
> Arlene 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:33 AM
> Subject: RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12
> 
> Hi Mario,
>  
> Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 because on my 6S Plus 
> which has the same processor as your SE I find everything is just a bit 
> faster and snappier.
> As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would agree, first I would ask 
> when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I would ask whether they 
> closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and rebooted the phone. 
> I would also ask if they rebooted the phones after upgrading and possibly 
> suggest a reset network settings first. This may or may not help, but all it 
> involved is having to reenter your WiFi password and renaming the phone to 
> what you want it to be in Settings > General > About, so all in all it’s a 
> pretty easy process and if it fixes the issue then it would save them a lot 
> of time. If it doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore the phone, set 
> it up as a new device first and make sure all is well, then restore your 
> backup a day or two later. If the problems return then you know that the 
> backup also restored the problems which sometimes can happen and the only way 
> then is to restore again, set up as a new phone and manually put everything 
> back the way you like.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mário 
> Navarro
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezingsince updating to iOS12
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hi.
> This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before doing a 
> total reset: DFU Mode.
> I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to me on 
> your phone.
> And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
> But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what I 
> did...
> Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in IOS 
> 10.
> cheers.
> 
>  
> Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:
> Hi all,
>  
> Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange 
> app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the 
> screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to 
> remove the app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in 
> the native mail app and the Bard app.
>  
> Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's 
> not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.
>  
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

2018-09-25 Thread Arlene 
Sieghard, or anyone, else for that matter, this may seem like a silly question 
to  ask, but not silly enough if the answer is that potentially could matter, 
so I'll ask. If it did matter it would be good to keep in mind, maybe even with 
updating to a newer version on either the phone of the computer. So the 
question, do you think it could cause problems if you're 2 or 3 versions 
behind, being on your favorite update, not really wanting to upgrade to keep 
for a while what you have? If you're in that situation, where the phone is 
concerned would it be better to go up one version at a time, if it was 
possible? I'm thinking that it wouldn't be possible but I could be wrong, but 
it seems to me once there's a current upgrade as in ios 12, one couldn't update 
to 11.4 if they were on the previous version before, since as far as what I 
know you wouldn't have access to that previous version, unless there's some 
place to find those previous versions. With my limited knowledge that's 
something I don't know about, so thanks for the answer to that from you 
experts.  and as far as how it is on the 2 out of the 3 iphone se phones we 
have it does seem to be working well. We'll probably update the third one 
pretty soon. while it's such a minor thing, we love checking the time on that 
phone with touching the home button, but that's such a minor thing. It's funny 
the things we get so use too. touching the power button is just as simple.

Arlene 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:33 AM
  Subject: RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12


  Hi Mario,

   

  Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 because on my 6S Plus 
which has the same processor as your SE I find everything is just a bit faster 
and snappier.

  As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would agree, first I would ask 
when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I would ask whether they 
closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and rebooted the phone. I 
would also ask if they rebooted the phones after upgrading and possibly suggest 
a reset network settings first. This may or may not help, but all it involved 
is having to reenter your WiFi password and renaming the phone to what you want 
it to be in Settings > General > About, so all in all it’s a pretty easy 
process and if it fixes the issue then it would save them a lot of time. If it 
doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore the phone, set it up as a new 
device first and make sure all is well, then restore your backup a day or two 
later. If the problems return then you know that the backup also restored the 
problems which sometimes can happen and the only way then is to restore again, 
set up as a new phone and manually put everything back the way you like.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mário 
Navarro
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:31 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

   

   

   


  Hi.
  This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before doing a 
total reset: DFU Mode.
  I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to me on 
your phone.
  And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
  But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what I 
did...
  Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in IOS 
10.
  cheers.

   

  Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:

Hi all, 

 

Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange 
app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the 
screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to 
remove the app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in 
the native mail app and the Bard app.

 

Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's 
not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone 

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
we go on.—Annie Proulx

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Big Astreos update

2018-09-25 Thread Yuma Decaux 
Hi everyone,

I hope y'all are having a good week.

Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to test 
flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some more 
features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.

In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
while I was out at the local comic shop.

Below is the link:

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Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, please 
go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing how you 
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permeating our skies.

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A++

Yuma 

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