RE: iTunes & Book Question

[M. Taylor]

Hello Carla,

Did you ever get this problem resolved?  Can you now add the titles to your 
phone?

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes & Book Question

I put m4B books on my phone through iTunes and the last couple of weeks iTunes 
won’t let me put the books on the phone.  I’ve even uninstalled and 
re-installed iTunes.  Any help would be appreciated in making this work.  
Thanks in advance.

Carla

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RE: iTunes on a PC

[Richard Turner]

It is still tedious with Windows, but better than it used to be.

As for movies ... Playing movies in iTunes on the PC is not for the faint of 
heart.

If you have a movie with video description, be sure that under iTunes settings 
on the Playback tab, the checkbox for Play Audio Description when available is 
checked.  Open setting with Control+apostrophe and tab to the General tab, then 
right arrow or press control+tab to go toplayback settings.  Tab to that 
checkbox and make sure it is checked.

Tab to OK and hit enter when done.

In the main iTunes window, tab to the music button and press space and arrow 
down to Movies and press enter.

Here is the part that requires patience.
After selecting movies, tab and you will go through the following:
Library  radio button   checked  
Unwatched  radio button   not checked  
Store  radio button   not checked  
Library Sidebar  Tree view  
Things change depending on which one of the choices above are checked, I leave 
mine on Library.  When you get to the Library side bar, you can arrow up and 
down through how you want your movies organized.  Things like:
Genres
Home Videos
Downloaded
Movies
Recently Added

Once you are on the one you want, tab through:
Movie Playlists  Button  
Show  Button  
 table  
When you get to Table, for me it is showing as a grid.  I think that is the 
default.
Now, depending on how many movies you have, you can right arrow through the 
first row, then I would left arrow back to the first one, then down arrow to 
row two, and again right arrow through that row.

Of course, you could also down arrow at the end of row 1 and then left arrow 
back through row 2.  
Once you find the movie you want to play, press shift+f10 or your context menu 
key and you have choices:
 Context Menu  
Download 
Mark as Unwatched 
Add to Playlist  sub menu  
Play "movie title"
Movie Info 
Love 
Dislike 
Uncheck Selection 
Show in iTunes Store 
Copy 
Paste 
Delete from Library 

Obviously, you want to play the movie.
Hit enter on Play.
Once it starts playing, the spacebar will pause and you can tab through the 
following:
play  Button  
next  Button  
Play iTunes Extras  Button  
full screen  Button  
0:28 
 left right slider  
0.3 percent
-2:36:46 
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 
volume  left right slider  
87 percent
previous  Button  
Then back to the play  Button 


I hope that helps.



Richard


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Clark
Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2022 10:17 PM
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Subject: iTunes on a PC

I know that years ago iTunes was not very accessible on a Windows PC. Is this 
still the case, or has accessibility improved? I'm using NVDA.


Also, if I wanted to watch a movie on my PC that I bought through 
iTunes, can it be watched directly through iTunes or would I need to 
download some app in order to watch it on the PC? (needless to say, I 
have no experience with iTunes on a computer so unsure what is involved)


Thanks,

Sarah





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Re: iTunes on a PC

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi Sarah.  I also use NVDA and I am able to use iTunes.  I have no
idea how it would work, but I'm sure that if you bought a movie and
wanted to watch it on iTunes, you could do it directly through the
program.  How accessible the program is at doing this, I have no idea.
I use iTunes to copy ringtones to my iPhone and also, transfer zipped
folders of audio book series to voice dream reader.  Itunes isn't the
most accessible program I've ever used, but I can use it.  I haven't
tried out a lot of stuff with it, but I can use it for the things I
want to use it for.

On 5/8/22, Sarah Clark  wrote:
> I know that years ago iTunes was not very accessible on a Windows PC. Is
> this still the case, or has accessibility improved? I'm using NVDA.
>
>
> Also, if I wanted to watch a movie on my PC that I bought through
> iTunes, can it be watched directly through iTunes or would I need to
> download some app in order to watch it on the PC? (needless to say, I
> have no experience with iTunes on a computer so unsure what is
> involved)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
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Re: iTunes music not transferring to iPhone

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

iTunes has a powerful retagging feature. YOu can tag an individual track or an 
album. Select the track or tracks you want to work with, and press Control I in 
Windows or CMD-I on a Mac. You can even set up your iTunes library to organize 
your music, in which case it will move tracks into album folders which are 
within artist folders when you tag the tracks.

Best,
Anna


> On Mar 10, 2022, at 7:31 AM, Marty  wrote:
> 
> Hello,  I have noticed that when transferring music from my computer to 
> my iPhone 8 via iTunes, not all of my music is showing up on my phone.  There 
> is plenty of memory space, so I know that this is not the issue.  I do know 
> that some of my song files are missing some metadata.  Could this be the 
> reason for songs not transferring?  I have been using MP3 Tagger to try to 
> bring all files into some sort of uniformity and when this is complete, how 
> do I delete my current library from iTunes, so I can import the properly 
> labeled library?
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Marty Hutchings
> 
> 
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RE: iTunes music library

[Simon A Fogarty]

Firstly,

Don't delete your library from itunes.

I did this and lost everything off my phones music app.

As for meta data,

If the music you are looking for is in your itunes or music app on a mac 
computer,

Then it should automatically sync with yor phone music app,

Ensure that you are signed in to the itunes / apple id under the account tab,
And that you have icloud etc synching all your music as well.

 You could move your music manually but I forget off the top of my head how to 
do this now.

I know with my music app I just made sure I was signed in and it all showed up 
automagically on the phone.
 

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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 3:54 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes music library

Hello,  I have noticed that when transferring music from my computer to my 
iPhone 8 via iTunes, not all of my music is showing up on my phone. There is 
plenty of memory space, so I know that this is not the issue. I do know that 
some of my song files are missing some metadata.  Could this be the reason for 
songs not transferring?  I have been using MP3 Tagger to try to bring all files 
into some sort of uniformity and when this is complete, how do I delete my 
current library from iTunes, so I can import the properly labeled library?

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Re: iTunes music library

[Wendy Lin]

Hi, perhaps your iCloud backup is turned off? I know that happened to me once 
so when I turned back on iCloud backup in the iPhone settings and then plugging 
my phone to my computer to sink music from iTunes, it was working fine again. 
Or maybe under artists tab or songs tab in iTunes, not all the boxes are 
checked when you go through the list of what you have before tabbing over to 
apply button.

> On Nov 22, 2021, at 9:53 PM, Marty  wrote:
> 
> Hello,  I have noticed that when transferring music from my computer to my 
> iPhone 8 via iTunes, not all of my music is showing up on my phone.  There is 
> plenty of memory space, so I know that this is not the issue.  I do know that 
> some of my song files are missing some metadata.  Could this be the reason 
> for songs not transferring?  I have been using MP3 Tagger to try to bring all 
> files into some sort of uniformity and when this is complete, how do I delete 
> my current library from iTunes, so I can import the properly labeled library?
> 
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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

No idea,
I haven't created a backup on the computer for years 

I'll give it a go and let you know what happens.

sf

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 2 November 2020 7:37 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Simon,

Yes, exactly, this is the version I am using.

Question:  Can you make a successful encrypted iOS backup on a device that is 
running iOS or iPad OS 13.x or later with iTunes 12.6.5.3?

Mark  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 1:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

That appears to be the version I'm running also.

12.6.5.3 to be exact.

I can only assume that apple have stopped updating it for windows which I 
thought they weren't going to do.

May be flick accessibil...@apple.com an email and ask the question from them as 
to whether its being updated still.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 3:19 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Simon,

Okay, I fired up my Windows 7 64-bit machine which is currently running iTunes 
12.6.5.x.

As with my 32-bit system, I ran the Apple software updater and, just like on 
the 32-bit system, it does not display iTunes as an option to update, only 
iCloud for Windows.  

So, the proverbial party may be over, as far as my Windows 7 computers are 
concerned.  

I just wonder about the link from Tech crunch that provides links to older 
versions of iTunes and even iTunes 12.10.x in both 64-bit and 32-bit flavors.  

Were I a younger man, I would chance it but, alas, as I have no desire to 
engage in hours of trouble shooting from a corrupted or compromised copy of the 
software ...

So, is there anyone on the list who can make a successful backup of a device 
running iOS 13. Or later on a Windows 7 computer running iTunes 12.6.5?  

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

If your machine is running a 64 bit windows 7 then you should be able to 
download the 64 bit iTunes version,  Everything should be fine with that 
upgrade 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 6:03 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Alan,

This was a marvelous idea.

I ran the command.  A couple of years ago, the updater would list both the 
iCloud control panel for Windows and iTunes.  Now, however, it only list the 
iCloud control panel.

I have a lot of 32-bit only software on this computer that I use for work.  
And, while I will certainly have to get a new computer with Windows 10, at 
present, I want to continue using this PC for as long as possible.  

I purchased this particular PC back in 2009 and it runs like a champ.  I 
believe the hardware on the PC is 64-bit but, as I stated, some of the old 
software is running 32-bit. 

I found a site from Tech Crunch that offers iTunes 12.10.x for Windows 7, 
32-bit but I am somewhat leery of sites offering iTunes downloads when Apple, 
itself, does not.  Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Now, I have another Windows 7 PC, that is running 64-bit Windows.  I will 
attempt to run the Apple software updater on that PC and see what happens.  

What I find most interesting is that on the Apple download site, one can find 
much older versions of iTunes for Windows but not iTunes 12.7; this makes no 
sense to me.

I may have to wait until I purchase a new Desktop running Windows 10 before I 
can move forward on this but I never would have guessed that this would be the 
case.  

Had I known that my option to update to the latest version of iTunes would be 
at issue, I would have updated last year, when I had the chance.

Thank you all for your feedback on this.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone

RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,

Yes, exactly, this is the version I am using.

Question:  Can you make a successful encrypted iOS backup on a device that is 
running iOS or iPad OS 13.x or later with iTunes 12.6.5.3?

Mark  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 1:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

That appears to be the version I'm running also.

12.6.5.3 to be exact.

I can only assume that apple have stopped updating it for windows which I 
thought they weren't going to do.

May be flick accessibil...@apple.com an email and ask the question from them as 
to whether its being updated still.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 3:19 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Simon,

Okay, I fired up my Windows 7 64-bit machine which is currently running iTunes 
12.6.5.x.

As with my 32-bit system, I ran the Apple software updater and, just like on 
the 32-bit system, it does not display iTunes as an option to update, only 
iCloud for Windows.  

So, the proverbial party may be over, as far as my Windows 7 computers are 
concerned.  

I just wonder about the link from Tech crunch that provides links to older 
versions of iTunes and even iTunes 12.10.x in both 64-bit and 32-bit flavors.  

Were I a younger man, I would chance it but, alas, as I have no desire to 
engage in hours of trouble shooting from a corrupted or compromised copy of the 
software ...

So, is there anyone on the list who can make a successful backup of a device 
running iOS 13. Or later on a Windows 7 computer running iTunes 12.6.5?  

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

If your machine is running a 64 bit windows 7 then you should be able to 
download the 64 bit iTunes version,  Everything should be fine with that 
upgrade 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 6:03 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Alan,

This was a marvelous idea.

I ran the command.  A couple of years ago, the updater would list both the 
iCloud control panel for Windows and iTunes.  Now, however, it only list the 
iCloud control panel.

I have a lot of 32-bit only software on this computer that I use for work.  
And, while I will certainly have to get a new computer with Windows 10, at 
present, I want to continue using this PC for as long as possible.  

I purchased this particular PC back in 2009 and it runs like a champ.  I 
believe the hardware on the PC is 64-bit but, as I stated, some of the old 
software is running 32-bit. 

I found a site from Tech Crunch that offers iTunes 12.10.x for Windows 7, 
32-bit but I am somewhat leery of sites offering iTunes downloads when Apple, 
itself, does not.  Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Now, I have another Windows 7 PC, that is running 64-bit Windows.  I will 
attempt to run the Apple software updater on that PC and see what happens.  

What I find most interesting is that on the Apple download site, one can find 
much older versions of iTunes for Windows but not iTunes 12.7; this makes no 
sense to me.

I may have to wait until I purchase a new Desktop running Windows 10 before I 
can move forward on this but I never would have guessed that this would be the 
case.  

Had I known that my option to update to the latest version of iTunes would be 
at issue, I would have updated last year, when I had the chance.

Thank you all for your feedback on this.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager

RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

That appears to be the version I'm running also.

12.6.5.3 to be exact.

I can only assume that apple have stopped updating it for windows which I 
thought they weren't going to do.

May be flick accessibil...@apple.com an email and ask the question from them as 
to whether its being updated still.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 3:19 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Simon,

Okay, I fired up my Windows 7 64-bit machine which is currently running iTunes 
12.6.5.x.

As with my 32-bit system, I ran the Apple software updater and, just like on 
the 32-bit system, it does not display iTunes as an option to update, only 
iCloud for Windows.  

So, the proverbial party may be over, as far as my Windows 7 computers are 
concerned.  

I just wonder about the link from Tech crunch that provides links to older 
versions of iTunes and even iTunes 12.10.x in both 64-bit and 32-bit flavors.  

Were I a younger man, I would chance it but, alas, as I have no desire to 
engage in hours of trouble shooting from a corrupted or compromised copy of the 
software ...

So, is there anyone on the list who can make a successful backup of a device 
running iOS 13. Or later on a Windows 7 computer running iTunes 12.6.5?  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

If your machine is running a 64 bit windows 7 then you should be able to 
download the 64 bit iTunes version,  Everything should be fine with that 
upgrade 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 6:03 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Alan,

This was a marvelous idea.

I ran the command.  A couple of years ago, the updater would list both the 
iCloud control panel for Windows and iTunes.  Now, however, it only list the 
iCloud control panel.

I have a lot of 32-bit only software on this computer that I use for work.  
And, while I will certainly have to get a new computer with Windows 10, at 
present, I want to continue using this PC for as long as possible.  

I purchased this particular PC back in 2009 and it runs like a champ.  I 
believe the hardware on the PC is 64-bit but, as I stated, some of the old 
software is running 32-bit. 

I found a site from Tech Crunch that offers iTunes 12.10.x for Windows 7, 
32-bit but I am somewhat leery of sites offering iTunes downloads when Apple, 
itself, does not.  Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Now, I have another Windows 7 PC, that is running 64-bit Windows.  I will 
attempt to run the Apple software updater on that PC and see what happens.  

What I find most interesting is that on the Apple download site, one can find 
much older versions of iTunes for Windows but not iTunes 12.7; this makes no 
sense to me.

I may have to wait until I purchase a new Desktop running Windows 10 before I 
can move forward on this but I never would have guessed that this would be the 
case.  

Had I known that my option to update to the latest version of iTunes would be 
at issue, I would have updated last year, when I had the chance.

Thank you all for your feedback on this.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes

RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Christopher,

One of the big reasons for going into 64 bit systems was also that RAM quotas 
in 32 bit machines topped out useage at 3.6 gigabytes give or take 100 meg,

 As systems needed more ram to run, the 64 bit system allowed machines to 
utilize those ram amounts over the 4 gig levels.

Aswell as 64bit systems allowed for more to be happening at one time on a 
machine.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 4:48 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Sorry, I never meant to imply that there weren't machines running the 32-bit 
version of Windows Seven. I just meant that by the time Windows Seven was 
rolling out, virtually all machines being manufactured at the time were 64-bit 
architecture and could run the 64-bit version of Windows Seven. The transaction 
from 32-bit to 64-bit hardware platforms occurred during Windows 2000, and 
there was a 64-bit version of Windows 2000. When  64-bit systems came out they 
could still run 32-bit versions of Windows, otherwise the architecture never 
would have been adopted.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Marty Hutchings
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> 
> I have a 32 bit Windows 7 machine.
> 
> 
> 
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with 
> William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full 
> of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 
> 2020 -Original
> Message-
> From: Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> 
> It is hardware dependent, but computers have been able to run 64-bit 
> operating systems for probably more than 15 years. Unless you bought a 
> netbook 10 years ago, any computer you've purchased in the last 15 
> years, if not longer, has been able to run a 64-bit operating system. 
> Computers cut over to a 64-bit architecture during Windows 2000, and 
> like I said, any computer running Windows 7 was almost assuredly a 64-bit 
> computer.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of
> > Alan Lemly
> > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> >
> > Simon,
> >
> > I might be wrong about this but I thought the ability to run 64-bit 
> > Windows was hardware dependent. I'm not convinced Mark could do what 
> > you suggest if his computer isn't capable of running 64-bit Windows. 
> > I welcome any correction on this because it was quite a while ago 
> > that I was running a 32-bit Windows machine.
> >
> > Alan Lemly
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:19 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> >  I'm wondering if your back up issue for your phone is simply a 64 
> > bit issue as your OS and iTunes are 32 bit,
> >
> > And that doesn't work in most cases.
> >
> >  Apart from having to pretty much wipe your machine and start again, 
> > What about updating to a 64 bit windows version?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of
> > M. Taylor
> > Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:09 pm
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit 
> > Desktop as my primary iTunes Library manager.
> >
> > As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may 
> > recall, once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app 
> > store.
> >
> > While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no 
> > longer supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.
> >
> > So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to 
> > remove the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I 
> > would, once again, prefer to have actual iT

RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Sorry, I got my versions of Windows confused. Below when I said Windows 2000, I 
meant Windows XP. Although there was a 64-bit version of Windows XP, it was 
Windows Vista that was released with both a 32-bit and a 64-bit version. This 
happened in the mid-2000's. Here's an article that talks about 64-bit 
computing, including Apple and the iPhone: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit_computing#:~:text=In%202003%2C%2064-bit%20CPUs%20were%20introduced%20to%20the,ARMv8-A%20Apple%20A7%20system%20on%20a%20chip%20%28SoC%29.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Chaltain 
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> 
> Sorry, I never meant to imply that there weren't machines running the 32-bit
> version of Windows Seven. I just meant that by the time Windows Seven was
> rolling out, virtually all machines being manufactured at the time were 64-bit
> architecture and could run the 64-bit version of Windows Seven. The 
> transaction
> from 32-bit to 64-bit hardware platforms occurred during Windows 2000, and
> there was a 64-bit version of Windows 2000. When  64-bit systems came out
> they could still run 32-bit versions of Windows, otherwise the architecture 
> never
> would have been adopted.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of
> > Marty Hutchings
> > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:41 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> >
> > I have a 32 bit Windows 7 machine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Love in Christ
> > Marty
> > If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with
> > William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full
> > of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1,
> > 2020 -Original
> > Message-
> > From: Christopher Chaltain
> > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:54 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> >
> > It is hardware dependent, but computers have been able to run 64-bit
> > operating systems for probably more than 15 years. Unless you bought a
> > netbook 10 years ago, any computer you've purchased in the last 15
> > years, if not longer, has been able to run a 64-bit operating system.
> > Computers cut over to a 64-bit architecture during Windows 2000, and
> > like I said, any computer running Windows 7 was almost assuredly a 64-bit
> computer.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
> > Chaltain at Gmail
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > Alan Lemly
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> > >
> > > Simon,
> > >
> > > I might be wrong about this but I thought the ability to run 64-bit
> > > Windows was hardware dependent. I'm not convinced Mark could do what
> > > you suggest if his computer isn't capable of running 64-bit Windows.
> > > I welcome any correction on this because it was quite a while ago
> > > that I was running a 32-bit Windows machine.
> > >
> > > Alan Lemly
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:19 AM
> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> > >
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > >  I'm wondering if your back up issue for your phone is simply a 64
> > > bit issue as your OS and iTunes are 32 bit,
> > >
> > > And that doesn't work in most cases.
> > >
> > >  Apart from having to pretty much wipe your machine and start again,
> > > What about updating to a 64 bit windows version?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > M. Taylor
> > > Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:09 pm
> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> > >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > Okay, up until now, I have continued to u

RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Sorry, I never meant to imply that there weren't machines running the 32-bit 
version of Windows Seven. I just meant that by the time Windows Seven was 
rolling out, virtually all machines being manufactured at the time were 64-bit 
architecture and could run the 64-bit version of Windows Seven. The transaction 
from 32-bit to 64-bit hardware platforms occurred during Windows 2000, and 
there was a 64-bit version of Windows 2000. When  64-bit systems came out they 
could still run 32-bit versions of Windows, otherwise the architecture never 
would have been adopted.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Marty Hutchings
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> 
> I have a 32 bit Windows 7 machine.
> 
> 
> 
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William
> Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and 
> fury,
> signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 -Original
> Message-
> From: Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> 
> It is hardware dependent, but computers have been able to run 64-bit operating
> systems for probably more than 15 years. Unless you bought a netbook 10 years
> ago, any computer you've purchased in the last 15 years, if not longer, has 
> been
> able to run a 64-bit operating system. Computers cut over to a 64-bit
> architecture during Windows 2000, and like I said, any computer running
> Windows 7 was almost assuredly a 64-bit computer.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of
> > Alan Lemly
> > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> >
> > Simon,
> >
> > I might be wrong about this but I thought the ability to run 64-bit
> > Windows was hardware dependent. I'm not convinced Mark could do what
> > you suggest if his computer isn't capable of running 64-bit Windows. I
> > welcome any correction on this because it was quite a while ago that I
> > was running a 32-bit Windows machine.
> >
> > Alan Lemly
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:19 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> >  I'm wondering if your back up issue for your phone is simply a 64 bit
> > issue as your OS and iTunes are 32 bit,
> >
> > And that doesn't work in most cases.
> >
> >  Apart from having to pretty much wipe your machine and start again,
> > What about updating to a 64 bit windows version?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of
> > M. Taylor
> > Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:09 pm
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit
> > Desktop as my primary iTunes Library manager.
> >
> > As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may
> > recall, once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app
> > store.
> >
> > While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer
> > supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.
> >
> > So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to
> > remove the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would,
> > once again, prefer to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have
> > decided to upgrade iTunes 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.
> >
> > So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not
> > appear to be a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.
> >
> > Have I waited too long to update?
> >
> > The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site
> > are versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.
> >
> > So, I have two questions:
> >
> > 1.
> > What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind th

RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mark,

We are of like mind about it not being a good idea to download iTunes 12.10.x 
32-bit from a non-Apple source. I'm sorry my suggestion did not help and I hope 
you're able to figure something out.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Alan,

This was a marvelous idea.

I ran the command.  A couple of years ago, the updater would list both the 
iCloud control panel for Windows and iTunes.  Now, however, it only list the 
iCloud control panel.

I have a lot of 32-bit only software on this computer that I use for work.  
And, while I will certainly have to get a new computer with Windows 10, at 
present, I want to continue using this PC for as long as possible.  

I purchased this particular PC back in 2009 and it runs like a champ.  I 
believe the hardware on the PC is 64-bit but, as I stated, some of the old 
software is running 32-bit. 

I found a site from Tech Crunch that offers iTunes 12.10.x for Windows 7, 
32-bit but I am somewhat leery of sites offering iTunes downloads when Apple, 
itself, does not.  Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Now, I have another Windows 7 PC, that is running 64-bit Windows.  I will 
attempt to run the Apple software updater on that PC and see what happens.  

What I find most interesting is that on the Apple download site, one can find 
much older versions of iTunes for Windows but not iTunes 12.7; this makes no 
sense to me.

I may have to wait until I purchase a new Desktop running Windows 10 before I 
can move forward on this but I never would have guessed that this would be the 
case.  

Had I known that my option to update to the latest version of iTunes would be 
at issue, I would have updated last year, when I had the chance.

Thank you all for your feedback on this.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of iTunes 
for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that allows 
for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system that are 
at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,

Okay, I fired up my Windows 7 64-bit machine which is currently running iTunes 
12.6.5.x.

As with my 32-bit system, I ran the Apple software updater and, just like on 
the 32-bit system, it does not display iTunes as an option to update, only 
iCloud for Windows.  

So, the proverbial party may be over, as far as my Windows 7 computers are 
concerned.  

I just wonder about the link from Tech crunch that provides links to older 
versions of iTunes and even iTunes 12.10.x in both 64-bit and 32-bit flavors.  

Were I a younger man, I would chance it but, alas, as I have no desire to 
engage in hours of trouble shooting from a corrupted or compromised copy of the 
software ...

So, is there anyone on the list who can make a successful backup of a device 
running iOS 13. Or later on a Windows 7 computer running iTunes 12.6.5?  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

If your machine is running a 64 bit windows 7 then you should be able to 
download the 64 bit iTunes version,  Everything should be fine with that 
upgrade 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 6:03 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Alan,

This was a marvelous idea.

I ran the command.  A couple of years ago, the updater would list both the 
iCloud control panel for Windows and iTunes.  Now, however, it only list the 
iCloud control panel.

I have a lot of 32-bit only software on this computer that I use for work.  
And, while I will certainly have to get a new computer with Windows 10, at 
present, I want to continue using this PC for as long as possible.  

I purchased this particular PC back in 2009 and it runs like a champ.  I 
believe the hardware on the PC is 64-bit but, as I stated, some of the old 
software is running 32-bit. 

I found a site from Tech Crunch that offers iTunes 12.10.x for Windows 7, 
32-bit but I am somewhat leery of sites offering iTunes downloads when Apple, 
itself, does not.  Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Now, I have another Windows 7 PC, that is running 64-bit Windows.  I will 
attempt to run the Apple software updater on that PC and see what happens.  

What I find most interesting is that on the Apple download site, one can find 
much older versions of iTunes for Windows but not iTunes 12.7; this makes no 
sense to me.

I may have to wait until I purchase a new Desktop running Windows 10 before I 
can move forward on this but I never would have guessed that this would be the 
case.  

Had I known that my option to update to the latest version of iTunes would be 
at issue, I would have updated last year, when I had the chance.

Thank you all for your feedback on this.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access

RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

If your machine is running a 64 bit windows 7 then you should be able to 
download the 64 bit iTunes version,
 Everything should be fine with that upgrade 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 6:03 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Alan,

This was a marvelous idea.

I ran the command.  A couple of years ago, the updater would list both the 
iCloud control panel for Windows and iTunes.  Now, however, it only list the 
iCloud control panel.

I have a lot of 32-bit only software on this computer that I use for work.  
And, while I will certainly have to get a new computer with Windows 10, at 
present, I want to continue using this PC for as long as possible.  

I purchased this particular PC back in 2009 and it runs like a champ.  I 
believe the hardware on the PC is 64-bit but, as I stated, some of the old 
software is running 32-bit. 

I found a site from Tech Crunch that offers iTunes 12.10.x for Windows 7, 
32-bit but I am somewhat leery of sites offering iTunes downloads when Apple, 
itself, does not.  Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Now, I have another Windows 7 PC, that is running 64-bit Windows.  I will 
attempt to run the Apple software updater on that PC and see what happens.  

What I find most interesting is that on the Apple download site, one can find 
much older versions of iTunes for Windows but not iTunes 12.7; this makes no 
sense to me.

I may have to wait until I purchase a new Desktop running Windows 10 before I 
can move forward on this but I never would have guessed that this would be the 
case.  

Had I known that my option to update to the latest version of iTunes would be 
at issue, I would have updated last year, when I had the chance.

Thank you all for your feedback on this.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of iTunes 
for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that allows 
for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system that are 
at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes running 64bit operating systems is hardware dependant,

If you have a 32 bit architecture  then you can't run 64 bit systems.

 But if you have a 64 bit system you can run either 32 or 64 bit systems.

 But if you have a 64 bit arch and are running a 32 bit os then you can only 
run 32 bit software,

 If you have a 64 bit architecture running a 64 bit Os then you can run either 
32 or 64 bit software.

 However apple as of within the passed 2 years have made all their operating 
systems and architecture 64 bit only,

So my assumption is that they have done away with 32 bit software because now 
in the 21st century  every machine should be a 64 bit system 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 4:56 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Simon,

I might be wrong about this but I thought the ability to run 64-bit Windows was 
hardware dependent. I'm not convinced Mark could do what you suggest if his 
computer isn't capable of running 64-bit Windows. I welcome any correction on 
this because it was quite a while ago that I was running a 32-bit Windows 
machine.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

 I'm wondering if your back up issue for your phone is simply a 64 bit issue as 
your OS and iTunes are 32 bit,

And that doesn't work in most cases.

 Apart from having to pretty much wipe your machine and start again,  What 
about updating to a 64 bit windows version?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:09 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of iTunes 
for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that allows 
for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system that are 
at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Marty Hutchings]

I have a 32 bit Windows 7 machine.



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-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

It is hardware dependent, but computers have been able to run 64-bit 
operating systems for probably more than 15 years. Unless you bought a 
netbook 10 years ago, any computer you've purchased in the last 15 years, if 
not longer, has been able to run a 64-bit operating system. Computers cut 
over to a 64-bit architecture during Windows 2000, and like I said, any 
computer running Windows 7 was almost assuredly a 64-bit computer.


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Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Simon,

I might be wrong about this but I thought the ability to run 64-bit 
Windows was
hardware dependent. I'm not convinced Mark could do what you suggest if 
his
computer isn't capable of running 64-bit Windows. I welcome any correction 
on

this because it was quite a while ago that I was running a 32-bit Windows
machine.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

 I'm wondering if your back up issue for your phone is simply a 64 bit 
issue as

your OS and iTunes are 32 bit,

And that doesn't work in most cases.

 Apart from having to pretty much wipe your machine and start again,  What
about updating to a 64 bit windows version?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:09 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit 
Desktop

as my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, 
once

upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer 
supports

device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to 
remove the
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, 
prefer
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade 
iTunes

12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear 
to be

a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions

older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do 
not

have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of
iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows 
that
allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating 
system that
are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft 
Store?


All replies greatly appreciated.

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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Christopher Chaltain]

It is hardware dependent, but computers have been able to run 64-bit operating 
systems for probably more than 15 years. Unless you bought a netbook 10 years 
ago, any computer you've purchased in the last 15 years, if not longer, has 
been able to run a 64-bit operating system. Computers cut over to a 64-bit 
architecture during Windows 2000, and like I said, any computer running Windows 
7 was almost assuredly a 64-bit computer.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> 
> Simon,
> 
> I might be wrong about this but I thought the ability to run 64-bit Windows 
> was
> hardware dependent. I'm not convinced Mark could do what you suggest if his
> computer isn't capable of running 64-bit Windows. I welcome any correction on
> this because it was quite a while ago that I was running a 32-bit Windows
> machine.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
>  I'm wondering if your back up issue for your phone is simply a 64 bit issue 
> as
> your OS and iTunes are 32 bit,
> 
> And that doesn't work in most cases.
> 
>  Apart from having to pretty much wipe your machine and start again,  What
> about updating to a 64 bit windows version?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:09 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop
> as my primary iTunes Library manager.
> 
> As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, 
> once
> upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.
> 
> While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports
> device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.
> 
> So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove 
> the
> app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer
> to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes
> 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.
> 
> So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to 
> be
> a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.
> 
> Have I waited too long to update?
> 
> The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
> versions
> older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.
> 
> So, I have two questions:
> 
> 1.
> What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not
> have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.
> 
> 2.
> Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of
> iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that
> allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system 
> that
> are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Dennis Long]

Ninite is a safe and good site.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Alan,

This was a marvelous idea.

I ran the command.  A couple of years ago, the updater would list both the 
iCloud control panel for Windows and iTunes.  Now, however, it only list the 
iCloud control panel.

I have a lot of 32-bit only software on this computer that I use for work.  
And, while I will certainly have to get a new computer with Windows 10, at 
present, I want to continue using this PC for as long as possible.  

I purchased this particular PC back in 2009 and it runs like a champ.  I 
believe the hardware on the PC is 64-bit but, as I stated, some of the old 
software is running 32-bit. 

I found a site from Tech Crunch that offers iTunes 12.10.x for Windows 7, 
32-bit but I am somewhat leery of sites offering iTunes downloads when Apple, 
itself, does not.  Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Now, I have another Windows 7 PC, that is running 64-bit Windows.  I will 
attempt to run the Apple software updater on that PC and see what happens.  

What I find most interesting is that on the Apple download site, one can find 
much older versions of iTunes for Windows but not iTunes 12.7; this makes no 
sense to me.

I may have to wait until I purchase a new Desktop running Windows 10 before I 
can move forward on this but I never would have guessed that this would be the 
case.  

Had I known that my option to update to the latest version of iTunes would be 
at issue, I would have updated last year, when I had the chance.

Thank you all for your feedback on this.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of iTunes 
for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that allows 
for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system that are 
at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

This was a marvelous idea.

I ran the command.  A couple of years ago, the updater would list both the 
iCloud control panel for Windows and iTunes.  Now, however, it only list the 
iCloud control panel.

I have a lot of 32-bit only software on this computer that I use for work.  
And, while I will certainly have to get a new computer with Windows 10, at 
present, I want to continue using this PC for as long as possible.  

I purchased this particular PC back in 2009 and it runs like a champ.  I 
believe the hardware on the PC is 64-bit but, as I stated, some of the old 
software is running 32-bit. 

I found a site from Tech Crunch that offers iTunes 12.10.x for Windows 7, 
32-bit but I am somewhat leery of sites offering iTunes downloads when Apple, 
itself, does not.  Something just doesn't seem right about that.

Now, I have another Windows 7 PC, that is running 64-bit Windows.  I will 
attempt to run the Apple software updater on that PC and see what happens.  

What I find most interesting is that on the Apple download site, one can find 
much older versions of iTunes for Windows but not iTunes 12.7; this makes no 
sense to me.

I may have to wait until I purchase a new Desktop running Windows 10 before I 
can move forward on this but I never would have guessed that this would be the 
case.  

Had I known that my option to update to the latest version of iTunes would be 
at issue, I would have updated last year, when I had the chance.

Thank you all for your feedback on this.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of iTunes 
for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that allows 
for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system that are 
at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Alan Lemly]

Simon,

I might be wrong about this but I thought the ability to run 64-bit Windows was 
hardware dependent. I'm not convinced Mark could do what you suggest if his 
computer isn't capable of running 64-bit Windows. I welcome any correction on 
this because it was quite a while ago that I was running a 32-bit Windows 
machine.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hi Mark,

 I'm wondering if your back up issue for your phone is simply a 64 bit issue as 
your OS and iTunes are 32 bit,

And that doesn't work in most cases.

 Apart from having to pretty much wipe your machine and start again,  What 
about updating to a 64 bit windows version?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:09 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of iTunes 
for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that allows 
for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system that are 
at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

 I'm wondering if your back up issue for your phone is simply a 64 bit issue as 
your OS and iTunes are 32 bit,

And that doesn't work in most cases.

 Apart from having to pretty much wipe your machine and start again,
 What about updating to a 64 bit windows version?

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Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 5:09 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of iTunes 
for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that allows 
for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system that are 
at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi how do I go back to a previous version? the recent version seems to 
crash.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 
32-bit system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and 
type Apple Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how 
I've gotten past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had 
trouble getting them from the Microsoft Store.


Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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Of M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop 
as my primary iTunes Library manager.


As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, 
once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.


While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer 
supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.


So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove 
the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, 
prefer to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to 
upgrade iTunes 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.


So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to 
be a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.


Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.


So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do 
not have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.


2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of 
iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows 
that allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating 
system that are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the 
Microsoft Store?


All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Alan Lemly]

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 32-bit 
system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and type Apple 
Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how I've gotten 
past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had trouble getting 
them from the Microsoft Store.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop as 
my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, once 
upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer supports 
device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove the 
app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, prefer 
to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to upgrade iTunes 
12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to be 
a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.  

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do not 
have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of iTunes 
for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows that allows 
for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating system that are 
at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

[Dennis Long]

try ninite.


Dennis Long

sent from my Pixel4A android phone using a screen reader



On October 31, 2020 12:21:16 AM "'Simon Wong' via VIPhone" 
 wrote:



Hi I have 12.10.10.2 I am not sure where you can get this version I just
updated it when the computer asked me to update it sorry.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop
as my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall,
once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer
supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove
the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again,
prefer to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to
upgrade iTunes 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to
be a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do
not have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of
iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows
that allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating
system that are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the
Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi I have 12.10.10.2 I am not sure where you can get this version I just 
updated it when the computer asked me to update it sorry.


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Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop
as my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall,
once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer
supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove
the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again,
prefer to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to
upgrade iTunes 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to
be a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do
not have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of
iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows
that allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating
system that are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the
Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: ITunes For Windows Question

[Don Ball]

well I had downloaded the app and that is exactly what they have done in 
reguard to the app. I tryed to install the program this morning and had 
problems which I have now resolved. I will try the program hopefully for a 
better experience.;


-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: ITunes For Windows Question

Unfortunately, I do not have a modern enough computer to investigate 
further. When you told me what it said, I thought Apple had recently divided 
it into itunes store, app store, music and videos, as it now is on the mac 
and IOS. Apparently not yet.


Arnold


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On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Don Ball  wrote:


I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and 
the app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there 
is one. I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it 
was for music only.;

-Original Message- From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for 
Windows and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and 
to do file transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for 
Windows only allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.


Alan Lemly

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Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in 
IOS. But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how 
does one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.


Arnold Schmidt


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RE: ITunes For Windows Question

[Richard Turner]

iTunes for Windows hasn't done apps for quite a while now. It does music, Voice 
Memos if you check that, and videos and overall backups like the encrypted 
backup and the ability to do file transfers.
But apps are only handled on the iDevices now.
You of course can still update the device through iTunes and manage other 
settings like the accessibility settings when setting up a new device.
I don't remember which version was the one when it stopped supporting app 
downloads and transfers.
I think it was the same time that the Mac version was split into three parts.
 

Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes For Windows Question

Unfortunately, I do not have a modern enough computer to investigate further. 
When you told me what it said, I thought Apple had recently divided it into 
itunes store, app store, music and videos, as it now is on the mac and IOS. 
Apparently not yet. 

Arnold 


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On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Don Ball  wrote:


I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and the 
app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there is one. 
I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it was for 
music only.; -Original Message- From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for Windows 
and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and to do file 
transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for Windows only 
allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in IOS. 
But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how does 
one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.

Arnold Schmidt


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Re: ITunes For Windows Question

[Arnold Schmidt]

Unfortunately, I do not have a modern enough computer to investigate further. 
When you told me what it said, I thought Apple had recently divided it into 
itunes store, app store, music and videos, as it now is on the mac and IOS. 
Apparently not yet. 

Arnold 


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I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and the 
app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there is one. 
I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it was for 
music only.;
-Original Message- From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for Windows 
and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and to do file 
transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for Windows only 
allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.

Alan Lemly

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Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in IOS. 
But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how does 
one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.

Arnold Schmidt


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Re: ITunes For Windows Question

[Don Ball]

I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and 
the app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there 
is one. I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it 
was for music only.;
-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for 
Windows and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and 
to do file transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for 
Windows only allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.


Alan Lemly

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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in 
IOS. But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how 
does one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.


Arnold Schmidt


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RE: ITunes For Windows Question

[Alan Lemly]

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for Windows 
and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and to do file 
transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for Windows only 
allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in IOS. 
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RE: itunes problem

[Anthony Borg]

Hi 

 

Many thanks for the useful info. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: 21 May 2020 16:55
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: itunes problem

 

To reset your incripted backup password, go to settings, general reset.  Next 
choose reset all settings.  Then connect your phone to iTunes via your computer 
and then start a new incripted backup.  This is where you can create a new 
incripted  backup password.
 Here is a link to more info on this process.  

https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/276199/Need+to+restore+iPhone+but+iTunes+backup+password+forgotten
 

Sent from my iPhone





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Is there a way on how to reset an itunes encrypted password? If so, can have
an explanation please? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony  

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Re: itunes problem

[Isaac Hebert]

To reset your incripted backup password, go to settings, general reset.  Next 
choose reset all settings.  Then connect your phone to iTunes via your computer 
and then start a new incripted backup.  This is where you can create a new 
incripted  backup password.
 Here is a link to more info on this process.  
https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/276199/Need+to+restore+iPhone+but+iTunes+backup+password+forgotten
 
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is there a way on how to reset an itunes encrypted password? If so, can have
> an explanation please? 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> Anthony  
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Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Mike B]

Hi Simon,

Check out the following:

http://maplelabs.co/faq-items/see-your-purchase-history-in-the-app-store-or-itunes-store/

How to view purchase history in the App Store or iTunes Store

View a list of the apps, songs, movies, TV shows, books, or other items that 
you bought with your Apple ID.

An iPhone X showing a sample Purchase History.
After you buy content from the App Store or iTunes Store or make other 
digital purchases with your Apple ID, you can
redownload your purchases on any compatible device.
 If you want to see a complete list of your purchases in chronological 
order, you can view your purchase history. In your purchase history, you can 
do
these things:
list of 5 items
• View when an order was billed to your account.
• View the date of purchase.
• Resend email receipts.
• Search by the amount charged (on the web).
• See which payment method was charged.
list end
If you’re not currently logged in with the same Apple ID that you use to 
make purchases in the App Store and iTunes Store, if you’re using a 
different
device, or if you don’t see your purchase, follow the directions below.

See your purchase history on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch
list of 3 items
1. Go to Settings > [your name] > iTunes & App Store.
2. Tap your Apple ID, then tap View Apple ID. You might be asked to sign in 
with your Apple ID. If you use Family Sharing, you’ll see in your purchase
history what you bought using your Apple ID, but you won’t see what other 
family members bought. To see what other family members bought, sign in with
their Apple ID.
3. Swipe up to Purchase History and tap it.
list end

Purchases are grouped by the date that they were charged to the payment 
method that you have on file. You might see a Pending section at the top of 
your
history; these items haven’t yet charged to your account. By default, only 
the last 90 days show up in your purchase history. To change the range, tap
Last 90 Days at the top of the screen, then select the range that you want 
to view. Learn what to do
if you still can’t find your purchase

Tap on the > to the right of the total billed charge to see details of an 
invoice, including the billing date and order ID. If the total charge was 
more
than zero, you can tap Resend at the bottom of the invoice details screen to 
get a new email receipt.

An iPhone X showing a sample invoice in Purchase History.

If you have recurring charges, learn how to
 change or cancel subscriptions.

Manage Supscription in iOS


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:18 AM
Subject: iTunes store purchase redownloads.


Hi Lists,



Over the last 7 or 8 years I’ve purchased a large number of audio books 
through iTunes



A lot of what I’ve purchased I’ve lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
lot of the books I have.

I’d like to redownload the books I’ve spent a lot of money on but can’t find



Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a 
list of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?



Cheers for any thoughts



Simon F




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RE: iTunes for Windows

[Richard Turner]

Good question.
If you can call them toll free, I'd try it.
I think on the apple Accessibility web page they may give other numbers for 
different countries.
Hopefully, Microsoft does the same.
If you cannot find them, let me know, I can call them easily and ask.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
Roberts
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows

Are these numbers for if calling from the States?  I am in the UK.

Many thanks,

Andrew Andrew 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 02 May 2020 15:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows

I'd try both Microsoft Accessibility help and Apple Accessibility help.
Microsoft: 800-936-5900
Apple: 877-204-3930

HTH,


Richard
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-Original Message-
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Roberts
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows

Hi,

Firstly, please accept my apologies if this message is off topic for this list, 
but as it is about an Apple product I thought I might just get away with it.

I am running iTunes version 12.10.6.2 under Windows 10.

For some reason (and this has only happened fairly recently) I can no longer 
access the “for you” section of Apple Music.  When I try I get the message “an 
error has occurred”.  The only option I then have is a “try again” button.  
Pressing that achieves absolutely nothing.  Does anyone know what the problem 
might be please?  I can access every other aspect of the program, my library, 
the store, you name it, I can even browse for Apple Music tracks, I just can’t 
access the “for you” section and yet I can on my iOS devices.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Andrew


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RE: iTunes for Windows

[Andrew Roberts]

Are these numbers for if calling from the States?  I am in the UK.

Many thanks,

Andrew Andrew 

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Turner
Sent: 02 May 2020 15:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows

I'd try both Microsoft Accessibility help and Apple Accessibility help.
Microsoft: 800-936-5900
Apple: 877-204-3930

HTH,


Richard
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Subject: iTunes for Windows

Hi,

Firstly, please accept my apologies if this message is off topic for this list, 
but as it is about an Apple product I thought I might just get away with it.

I am running iTunes version 12.10.6.2 under Windows 10.

For some reason (and this has only happened fairly recently) I can no longer 
access the “for you” section of Apple Music.  When I try I get the message “an 
error has occurred”.  The only option I then have is a “try again” button.  
Pressing that achieves absolutely nothing.  Does anyone know what the problem 
might be please?  I can access every other aspect of the program, my library, 
the store, you name it, I can even browse for Apple Music tracks, I just can’t 
access the “for you” section and yet I can on my iOS devices.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Andrew


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RE: iTunes for Windows

[Richard Turner]

I'd try both Microsoft Accessibility help and Apple Accessibility help.
Microsoft: 800-936-5900
Apple: 877-204-3930

HTH,


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Subject: iTunes for Windows

Hi,

Firstly, please accept my apologies if this message is off topic for this list, 
but as it is about an Apple product I thought I might just get away with it.

I am running iTunes version 12.10.6.2 under Windows 10.

For some reason (and this has only happened fairly recently) I can no longer 
access the “for you” section of Apple Music.  When I try I get the message “an 
error has occurred”.  The only option I then have is a “try again” button.  
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Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Andrew


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Re: iTunes and backups

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

Hi Steve,

If you are experiencing iTunes backup now greyed out on windows 10,
probably the iTunes version on your PC is outdated and is not compatible
with your iPhone. Therefore, updating the iTunes backup on your Windows to
the latest version can fix this problem

Pramit

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM Steve Sweeney  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I plugged my phone in to my Windows laptop to back it up and for some
> reason the backup and restore functions are greyed out and not available?
> I have backup this phone to this laptop for many years so it should have
> worked.  iTunes is also telling me that my phone has never been backup to
> this computer?
>
> Has Apple disabled the back up function in iTunes?  I had heard some talk
> about different software packages coming out.
>
> Thanks all -Steve
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Re: iTunes

[Simon A Fogarty]

Jut wondering if by any chance anyone else has signed in to your itunes 
aplication on your machine annd ur iPod has by some very long shot synced their 
music with your device?

I will note here that this shouldn’t happen without prompting you first..


Sent from my iPad

On 22/02/2020, at 11:09 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 First, call Apple Accessibility: 877-204-3930
If they cannot help, call Microsoft Accessibility: 800-936-5900
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On Feb 21, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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forgive me. I forgot to mention that I am talking about iTunes for windows. I 
did a repair so it would recognize my iPod Nano and now the main screen has 
turned to garbage. It shows an artist name then a play button. None of these 
artists are from my playlist. I don't know how to get my playlist back.
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Patients patients and patients.
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How am I suppose to find my own music with all this play crap on the screen. 
Every time I tab it says play suc and such.
**
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Re: iTunes

[Richard Turner]

First, call Apple Accessibility: 877-204-3930
If they cannot help, call Microsoft Accessibility: 800-936-5900
With Microsoft, they could remote into your machine and sort out what is 
happening.





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On Feb 21, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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forgive me. I forgot to mention that I am talking about iTunes for windows. I 
did a repair so it would recognize my iPod Nano and now the main screen has 
turned to garbage. It shows an artist name then a play button. None of these 
artists are from my playlist. I don't know how to get my playlist back.
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Vece<mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: iTunes

Patients patients and patients.
When I have an app and I am unfamiliar with I do with two finger swipe up and 
read the entire screen so that I could see how the elements interact.
Then go through the elements one by one until you find the one you want.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!

On Feb 21, 2020, at 3:53 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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How am I suppose to find my own music with all this play crap on the screen. 
Every time I tab it says play suc and such.
**
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Re: iTunes

[Robert Doc Wright]

forgive me. I forgot to mention that I am talking about iTunes for windows. I 
did a repair so it would recognize my iPod Nano and now the main screen has 
turned to garbage. It shows an artist name then a play button. None of these 
artists are from my playlist. I don't know how to get my playlist back.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 6:52 AM
  Subject: Re: iTunes


  Patients patients and patients.
  When I have an app and I am unfamiliar with I do with two finger swipe up and 
read the entire screen so that I could see how the elements interact.
  Then go through the elements one by one until you find the one you want.


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!


On Feb 21, 2020, at 3:53 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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How am I suppose to find my own music with all this play crap on the 
screen. Every time I tab it says play suc and such.
**
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RE: iTunes

[Richard Turner]

I think the original poster was talking about on the computer.
I’ve not had their experience so have no helpful suggestions other than 
searching out podcasts on using iTunes, or calling Apple Accessibility: 
877-204-3930 or Microsoft Accessibility if this is on Windows: 800-936-5900.

.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes

Patients patients and patients.
When I have an app and I am unfamiliar with I do with two finger swipe up and 
read the entire screen so that I could see how the elements interact.
Then go through the elements one by one until you find the one you want.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!


On Feb 21, 2020, at 3:53 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

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Every time I tab it says play suc and such.
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Patients patients and patients.
When I have an app and I am unfamiliar with I do with two finger swipe up and 
read the entire screen so that I could see how the elements interact.
Then go through the elements one by one until you find the one you want.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 3:53 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> How am I suppose to find my own music with all this play crap on the screen. 
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Re: ITunes with NVDA: can't see the items in

[arlene]

We couldn't work the walter program with attempting to do ringtones, using 
walter with window-eyes, jaws and ndva. Gera try imazing with transferring 
those albums which works well, and imazing just came out with a new version.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gerardo Corripio 
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  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:09 PM
  Subject: ITunes with NVDA: can't see the items in


  I’m wanting to transfer several albums and Playlists which aren’t on Spotify 
onto my iPhone SE, with iTunes version 12.10.1.4. However NVDA doesn’t seem to 
read the songs in the list, so I can reorder them as needed, before 
sincronizing the iPhone to Itunes! I’m in no position or way to obtain Jaws for 
now, thus what would the best course of action be besides forgetting about 
Itunes? I’m in no way able to buy the Walter program discussed on here either. 
Thanks for info.

   


Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

   


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RE: iTunes Backups

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And even if you access your Apple account from a PC you can choose to “trust” 
the PC or browser the first time you use it and afterwards it will not ask for 
2-factor authentication on that computer/browser combination.
A lot of people hate 2-factor authentication, but as Anna said, it’s definitely 
the way to go with respect to security in today’s world of ransomware attacks 
and such.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:49 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

No. Once it's set up, you only have to enter a code occasionally, such as if 
you get a new device.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I use 
my phone?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that it 
cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.
I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or my 
computer from my phone?
Vicki
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Hi Vicki,
My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.
Best,
Anna
On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
Vicki
- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Hi Vicki,
You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.
I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.
Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
Best,
Anna
On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.
First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?
Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
The pr

Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

No. Once it's set up, you only have to enter a code occasionally, such as if 
you get a new device.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I 
> use my phone?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
>> than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W. >> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
>>> using 2 factor authentication on my phone.
>>>  
>>> I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Vicki W.
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>> Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message 
>>>> that it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor 
>>>> authentication.
>>>> I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox 
>>>> or my computer from my phone?
>>>> Vicki
>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>>>>> Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include 
>>>>> text messages.
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Anna Dresner
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>> My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the 
>>>>> same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages 
>>>>> would be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, 
>>>>> though.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. >>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the 
>>>>>> way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, 
>>>>>> but it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>>>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
>>>>>>> system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were 
>>>>>>> running an older operating system.
>>>>>>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>>>>>>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
>>>>

Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I use 
my phone?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups


  Hi Vicki,


  I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.


  Best,
  Anna








On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

  Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message 
that it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

  I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox 
or my computer from my phone?

  Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include 
text messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly 
the same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would 
be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna





  On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

  Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With 
the way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but 
it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

  Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: Anna Dresner
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older 
operating system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were 
running an older operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, 
and either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make 
sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 
hours or so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's 
also a Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna





  On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  
wrote:

  I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a 
mini IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated 
beyond IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

  First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

  Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad 
II or older phone?

  Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer 
phone?

  The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I 
will be trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not 
certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I 
currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older 
phone. 

  I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS 
versions with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones 
with IOS 13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older 
IPad or phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or 
the phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

  Hope this all makes sense.

  Thanks.

  Vicki


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Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
> using 2 factor authentication on my phone.
>  
> I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Vicki W.
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>  
>> Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that 
>> it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.
>>  
>> I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or 
>> my computer from my phone?
>>  
>> Vicki
>>  
>>> ----- Original Message - 
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>>>  
>>> Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
>>> messages.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>  
>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>  
>>> My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the 
>>> same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would 
>>> be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. >>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way 
>>>> I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but 
>>>> it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>>>>  
>>>> Vicki
>>>>  
>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>  
>>>>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
>>>>> system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were 
>>>>> running an older operating system.
>>>>>  
>>>>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>>>>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
>>>>> Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, 
>>>>> and make sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen 
>>>>> automatically every 24 hours or so, when your device is on and connected 
>>>>> to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up Now button you can use to back 
>>>>> up the device at any time.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
>>>>> backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. >>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>&

Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that 
it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

   

  I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or 
my computer from my phone?

   

  Vicki

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM

Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

 

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

 

Hi Vicki,

 

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the 
same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be 
backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

 

  On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

   

  Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the 
way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but 
it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

   

  Vicki

   

- Original Message - 

From: Anna Dresner

To: VIPhone Mailing List

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM

Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

 

Hi Vicki,

 

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
older operating system.

 

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, 
choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure 
iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or 
so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a 
Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

 

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

 

  On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

   

  I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a 
mini IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated 
beyond IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

   

  First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

   

  Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II 
or older phone?

   

  Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

   

  The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will 
be trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

   

  I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions 
with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 
13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone 
you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

   

  Hope this all makes sense.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Vicki

   

   

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RE: ITunes Backups

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that it 
cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or my 
computer from my phone?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

As I pointed out in another message, I cannot select to back up messages unless 
I have 2 factor authentication set up, which I don't and right now, I don't 
want to.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Feliciano Godoy 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:46 PM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Hi,

  Encrypted back-ups on iTunes include native  message app messages. iCloud 
back-ups also include messages if selected. Since iOS 12, messages are not 
selected by default. This must be selected via Settings, Apple ID, iCloud and 
insure messages is enabled.

   

  Should there be any errors on iPhone or iOS device for that matter in the 
future, you can connect device to a computer that has  been used with the 
device if back-up has been performed on computer.

   

  Feliciano 

   

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

   

  Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Hi Vicki,

   

  My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

   

  Best,

  Anna

   

   

   

   

On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way 
I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

 

Vicki

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Anna Dresner

  To: VIPhone Mailing List

  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM

  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Hi Vicki,

   

  You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
older operating system.

   

  I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, 
choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure 
iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or 
so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a 
Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

   

  Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

   

  Best,

  Anna

   

   

   

   

On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini 
IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond 
IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

 

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

 

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
older phone?

 

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

 

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

 

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions 
with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 
13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone 
you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

 

Hope this all makes sense.

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

 

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Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that it 
cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or my 
computer from my phone?

Vicki
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Hi Vicki,

   

  My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

   

  Best,

  Anna

   

   

   





On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way 
I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

 

Vicki

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Anna Dresner

  To: VIPhone Mailing List

  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM

  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Hi Vicki,

   

  You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
older operating system.

   

  I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, 
choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure 
iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or 
so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a 
Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

   

  Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

   

  Best,

  Anna

   

   

   





On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini 
IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond 
IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

 

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

 

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
older phone?

 

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

 

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

 

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions 
with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 
13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone 
you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

 

Hope this all makes sense.

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

 

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RE: ITunes Backups

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Hi,
Encrypted back-ups on iTunes include native  message app messages. iCloud 
back-ups also include messages if selected. Since iOS 12, messages are not 
selected by default. This must be selected via Settings, Apple ID, iCloud and 
insure messages is enabled.

Should there be any errors on iPhone or iOS device for that matter in the 
future, you can connect device to a computer that has  been used with the 
device if back-up has been performed on computer.

Feliciano

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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RE: ITunes Backups

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: ITunes Backups

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Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
> have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
> understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system 
>> to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
>> older operating system.
>> 
>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
>> Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and 
>> make sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 
>> 24 hours or so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. 
>> There's also a Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any 
>> time.
>> 
>> Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. 
>> It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. >> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
>>> II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond 
>>> IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.
>>>  
>>> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
>>> and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
>>>  
>>> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
>>> older phone?
>>>  
>>> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
>>>  
>>> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
>>> trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not 
>>> certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I 
>>> currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older 
>>> phone. 
>>>  
>>> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
>>> older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. 
>>> How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
>>> phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the 
>>> phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.
>>>  
>>> Hope this all makes sense.
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
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Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups


  Hi Vicki,


  You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system 
to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.


  I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.


  Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. 
It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.


  Best,
  Anna








On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 
12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
older phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How 
is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, 
but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki



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RE: ITunes Backups

[Robert Wright]

Vicki,the main difference between backing up to iTunes and backing up to iCloud 
is that when backing up to iCloud you can set up a new device from any wi-fi. 
Whereas, with iTunes you must be at your PC.

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:54 PM
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Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.
 
First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
 
Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?
 
Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
 
The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 
 
I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.
 
Hope this all makes sense.
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 

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Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
> II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 
> 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.
>  
> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
> and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
>  
> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
> phone?
>  
> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
>  
> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
> to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
> version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have 
> the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 
>  
> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
> older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. 
> How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
> phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the 
> phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.
>  
> Hope this all makes sense.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
>  
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RE: iTunes remote

[Tom Rash]

Windows.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes remote

 

I’ve not used it for years, but are you on Windows or Mac?

 

I think the big changes to iTunes will be on the Mac first and no knowing if it 
will happen on Windows.

 

 

Richard

 

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Subject: iTunes remote

 

Is anyone using the iTunes remote.  I use it quite often.  This is the remote 
for controlling your music selections and volume, not the Apple TV remote. 

I’ve used the remote app for years.  The problem is that my iPhone cannot find 
my music library by the remote app.  The problems seems to be that iTunes will 
not keep my computer connected.  I have to keep turning on home sharing within 
the iTunes app.  Is anyone else having trouble with this?  Also I keep hearing 
that the iTunes app is going to change big time and this app may become 
obsolete anyway.   

 

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RE: iTunes remote

[Richard Turner]

I’ve not used it for years, but are you on Windows or Mac?

I think the big changes to iTunes will be on the Mac first and no knowing if it 
will happen on Windows.


Richard

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Is anyone using the iTunes remote.  I use it quite often.  This is the remote 
for controlling your music selections and volume, not the Apple TV remote.
I’ve used the remote app for years.  The problem is that my iPhone cannot find 
my music library by the remote app.  The problems seems to be that iTunes will 
not keep my computer connected.  I have to keep turning on home sharing within 
the iTunes app.  Is anyone else having trouble with this?  Also I keep hearing 
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Re: Itunes artiesten synchen op iphone

[gianni morelli]

Sorry, this is the translation.

I use voiceover on Mac.

I would like to select the option synch certain artists with iphone (on the tab 
music). All the artists are by default deselected. How do I select them all 
except some of them? Command a doesn’t work.

Skype: giannijuve
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 13 aug. 2019 om 19:01 heeft Larry Lumpkin  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Can't read this.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of gianni 
> morelli
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:18 AM
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> Subject: Itunes artiesten synchen op iphone
> 
> Hallo allemaal,
> 
> Ik wil graag vanuit mijn itunes bib alle artiesten op mijn iphone zetten met 
> uitzondering van enkelen. Als je kiest voor de optie enkel aangekruiste 
> artiesten enz. Dan zie je dat daar niets geselecteerd is. De knop command a 
> om alles te selecteren werkt niet. Hoe kan ik in die lijst dus alles met 1 
> klik selecteren? Achteraf kan ik dan enkelen deselecteren. 
> 
> Skype: giannijuve
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RE: Itunes artiesten synchen op iphone

[Larry Lumpkin]

Can't read this.


-Original Message-
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morelli
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:18 AM
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Subject: Itunes artiesten synchen op iphone

Hallo allemaal,

Ik wil graag vanuit mijn itunes bib alle artiesten op mijn iphone zetten met 
uitzondering van enkelen. Als je kiest voor de optie enkel aangekruiste 
artiesten enz. Dan zie je dat daar niets geselecteerd is. De knop command a om 
alles te selecteren werkt niet. Hoe kan ik in die lijst dus alles met 1 klik 
selecteren? Achteraf kan ik dan enkelen deselecteren. 

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Re: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

[Maria Reyes]

Have you rebooted your phone and tried it again?

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> On Jun 10, 2019, at 12:20 AM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maria, 
> Thank you so much for this, but Apple Accessibility and I , tried this exact 
> same steps you are referring to, but that is the main problem the turn on 
> feature just won't let me turn it on no matter what I do.  
> Again thank you, as I greatly appreciate it.  
> Janet 
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> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 11:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.
> 
> Hi Janet, if you go into settings, Face ID and passcode, and flick until you 
> hear a heading called use face ID for... and swipe until you hear iTunes and 
> App Store off. Double tap to turn it on.
> 
> Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
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> 
>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:05 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> HI All, 
>> I spent over an hour with Apple Accessibility trying to turn on Face ID for 
>> the iTunes-app store,  as I always had it enabled, but when I go to the app 
>> store, face id doesn't request for face id.  Apple and I tried several times 
>> to enable this face id by entering and entering turning on face id in the 
>> face id options under settings.  I've signed out of iTunes-app store, 
>> signing back in, restarting the phone.  Apple is thinking this must be some 
>> kind of glitch, but not for sure yet.  Does anyone have ideas how to turn on 
>> the face id for iTunes-app store? I also have face id set up so when I open 
>> my email, but face id once again is not asking for face id, it just opens!  
>> Thank you all. 
>> Janet. 
>> 
>> Peace Be With You. 
>> 
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RE: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Maria, 
Thank you so much for this, but Apple Accessibility and I , tried this exact 
same steps you are referring to, but that is the main problem the turn on 
feature just won't let me turn it on no matter what I do.  
Again thank you, as I greatly appreciate it.  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

Hi Janet, if you go into settings, Face ID and passcode, and flick until you 
hear a heading called use face ID for... and swipe until you hear iTunes and 
App Store off. Double tap to turn it on.

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you. 
mreyes5...@gmail.com

> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:05 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> HI All, 
> I spent over an hour with Apple Accessibility trying to turn on Face ID for 
> the iTunes-app store,  as I always had it enabled, but when I go to the app 
> store, face id doesn't request for face id.  Apple and I tried several times 
> to enable this face id by entering and entering turning on face id in the 
> face id options under settings.  I've signed out of iTunes-app store, signing 
> back in, restarting the phone.  Apple is thinking this must be some kind of 
> glitch, but not for sure yet.  Does anyone have ideas how to turn on the face 
> id for iTunes-app store? I also have face id set up so when I open my email, 
> but face id once again is not asking for face id, it just opens!  
> Thank you all. 
> Janet. 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
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Re: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

[Maria Reyes]

Hi Janet, if you go into settings, Face ID and passcode, and flick until you 
hear a heading called use face ID for... and swipe until you hear iTunes and 
App Store off. Double tap to turn it on.

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you. 
mreyes5...@gmail.com

> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:05 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> HI All, 
> I spent over an hour with Apple Accessibility trying to turn on Face ID for 
> the iTunes-app store,  as I always had it enabled, but when I go to the app 
> store, face id doesn't request for face id.  Apple and I tried several times 
> to enable this face id by entering and entering turning on face id in the 
> face id options under settings.  I've signed out of iTunes-app store, signing 
> back in, restarting the phone.  Apple is thinking this must be some kind of 
> glitch, but not for sure yet.  Does anyone have ideas how to turn on the face 
> id for iTunes-app store? I also have face id set up so when I open my email, 
> but face id once again is not asking for face id, it just opens!  
> Thank you all. 
> Janet. 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
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Re: iTunes Store questions

[Wayne Scott]

The difference betthat buying 
and renting media is that when you buy, you can watch it whenever you want. I 
have never rented. I just buy that way I can listen to it whenever I'm ready. 
The app store and the iTunes store are almost identical. I wish they make a 
deal like Apple Music where you can subscribe a certain amount a month to watch 
TV shows. I subscribe to Apple Music and it's worth the $9.99 a month.

Chime bear 
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> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:
> 
> I have some questions about the iTunes Store. 
>  
> I think I can navigate around the tabs and think I have some idea how to 
> purchase/rent media, similarly to how it would be done in the App Store. 
>  
> What are the differences between buying and renting media such as 
> movies/television shows?  I may have to do the latter for the moment for 
> budget reasons. 
>  
> Bill Outman
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RE: iTunes update

[Robert Wright]

You are right. I didn’t notice anything after Mac.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Then you didn't read the entire information on that site, I just went to 
www.iTunes.com and clicked on "Download iTunes" and here is what it says:

iTunes for Windows
Get it from Microsoft – that is a link which will indeed take you to the 
Windows Store
Windows System Requirements(

Looking for other versions?
macOS( Windows(
Those are buttons and if you click on "Windows", it sort of changes around, the 
desktop version is shown and the button above for "Windows" now becomes 
"Windows Store", like this:

iTunes for Windows
Download now (64-bit) – that is a link
Looking for Windows 32-bit? Download here – this is also a link

Windows System Requirements(
Looking for other versions?
macOS( Windows Store
Again those are buttons.
I had at one point installed the Windows Store version and really didn't like 
it and I again removed it and reinstalled the desktop version.
If you read on you get a bit more information and the bit about Android:

50 million songs on all your devices.
Expand your listening experience with Apple Music. If you’ve got an iPhone or 
iPad, Apple Music is already built in — just open the Music app and tap “Try it 
free.”
Listen to your favourite music ad-free on all your devices, online or off.
Start your free three-month trial and cancel anytime.*
Learn more about Apple Music

If your other device uses Android, you can still get Apple Music.
Apple Music is also available for Android. Stream and  download all the same 
music and videos.
Get it on Google Play – that is also a link which obviously will take you to 
the Google Play Store.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Why then was I only shown the Microsoft store when I went to 
www.itunes.com

When I clicked on windows that was the only choice I saw.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

That is because you are running the Enterprise version of iTunes, 12.6.3 is its 
own version so to speak separate from the newer iTunes versions. It was 
primarily made for business who want to manage apps via iTunes which you can't 
do in the newer versions of iTunes.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

It never showed up for me. All I was ever shown was iCloud.and this was when I 
was running 12.6.3.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

That is only true if you installed the Windows Store version which I strongly 
discourage, the desktop version in my opinion still works much better and still 
updates via Apple Update.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Well, that has changed. Apple software update only updates iCloud. To update 
iTunes you must go to the Microsoft store. Even if you go to 
www.itunes.com

it will send you to the Microsoft store if you are running windows.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:00 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

Close iTunes and launch Apple Update. That may not be the exact name, but it's 
something like it. Use it to check for updates.

Best,
Anna




On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:51 AM, Fanus  wrote:

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update
 
Hi Fanus
 
Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser 

RE: iTunes update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Then you didn't read the entire information on that site, I just went to 
www.iTunes.com<http://www.iTunes.com> and clicked on "Download iTunes" and here 
is what it says:

iTunes for Windows
Get it from Microsoft – that is a link which will indeed take you to the 
Windows Store
Windows System Requirements

Looking for other versions?
macOS Windows
Those are buttons and if you click on "Windows", it sort of changes around, the 
desktop version is shown and the button above for "Windows" now becomes 
"Windows Store", like this:

iTunes for Windows
Download now (64-bit) – that is a link
Looking for Windows 32-bit? Download here – this is also a link

Windows System Requirements
Looking for other versions?
macOS Windows Store
Again those are buttons.
I had at one point installed the Windows Store version and really didn't like 
it and I again removed it and reinstalled the desktop version.
If you read on you get a bit more information and the bit about Android:

50 million songs on all your devices.
Expand your listening experience with Apple Music. If you’ve got an iPhone or 
iPad, Apple Music is already built in — just open the Music app and tap “Try it 
free.”
Listen to your favourite music ad-free on all your devices, online or off.
Start your free three-month trial and cancel anytime.*
Learn more about Apple Music

If your other device uses Android, you can still get Apple Music.
Apple Music is also available for Android. Stream and  download all the same 
music and videos.
Get it on Google Play – that is also a link which obviously will take you to 
the Google Play Store.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Why then was I only shown the Microsoft store when I went to
www.itunes.com<http://www.itunes.com>

When I clicked on windows that was the only choice I saw.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
***

From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iTunes update

That is because you are running the Enterprise version of iTunes, 12.6.3 is its 
own version so to speak separate from the newer iTunes versions. It was 
primarily made for business who want to manage apps via iTunes which you can't 
do in the newer versions of iTunes.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

It never showed up for me. All I was ever shown was iCloud.and this was when I 
was running 12.6.3.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
***

From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iTunes update

That is only true if you installed the Windows Store version which I strongly 
discourage, the desktop version in my opinion still works much better and still 
updates via Apple Update.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Well, that has changed. Apple software update only updates iCloud. To update 
iTunes you must go to the Microsoft store. Even if you go to
www.itunes.com<http://www.itunes.com>

it will send you to the Microsoft store if you are running windows.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
***

From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:00 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

Close iTunes and launch Apple Update. That may not be the exact name, but it's 
something like it. Use it to check for updates.

Best,
Anna




On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:51 AM, Fanus 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus


From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Hi Fanus

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaw

RE: iTunes update

[Robert Wright]

Why then was I only shown the Microsoft store when I went to 
www.itunes.com

When I clicked on windows that was the only choice I saw.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

That is because you are running the Enterprise version of iTunes, 12.6.3 is its 
own version so to speak separate from the newer iTunes versions. It was 
primarily made for business who want to manage apps via iTunes which you can't 
do in the newer versions of iTunes.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

It never showed up for me. All I was ever shown was iCloud.and this was when I 
was running 12.6.3.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

That is only true if you installed the Windows Store version which I strongly 
discourage, the desktop version in my opinion still works much better and still 
updates via Apple Update.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Well, that has changed. Apple software update only updates iCloud. To update 
iTunes you must go to the Microsoft store. Even if you go to 
www.itunes.com

it will send you to the Microsoft store if you are running windows.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:00 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

Close iTunes and launch Apple Update. That may not be the exact name, but it's 
something like it. Use it to check for updates.

Best,
Anna




On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:51 AM, Fanus  wrote:

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update
 
Hi Fanus
 
Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.
 
Debbie
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update
 
Hello list
I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?
Regards
Fanus
 
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RE: iTunes update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is because you are running the Enterprise version of iTunes, 12.6.3 is its 
own version so to speak separate from the newer iTunes versions. It was 
primarily made for business who want to manage apps via iTunes which you can't 
do in the newer versions of iTunes.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

It never showed up for me. All I was ever shown was iCloud.and this was when I 
was running 12.6.3.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
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From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iTunes update

That is only true if you installed the Windows Store version which I strongly 
discourage, the desktop version in my opinion still works much better and still 
updates via Apple Update.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Well, that has changed. Apple software update only updates iCloud. To update 
iTunes you must go to the Microsoft store. Even if you go to
www.itunes.com<http://www.itunes.com>

it will send you to the Microsoft store if you are running windows.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
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From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:00 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

Close iTunes and launch Apple Update. That may not be the exact name, but it's 
something like it. Use it to check for updates.

Best,
Anna




On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:51 AM, Fanus 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus


From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Hi Fanus

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

Debbie

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iTunes update

Hello list
I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?
Regards
Fanus

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RE: iTunes update

[Robert Wright]

It never showed up for me. All I was ever shown was iCloud.and this was when I 
was running 12.6.3.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

That is only true if you installed the Windows Store version which I strongly 
discourage, the desktop version in my opinion still works much better and still 
updates via Apple Update.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Well, that has changed. Apple software update only updates iCloud. To update 
iTunes you must go to the Microsoft store. Even if you go to 
www.itunes.com

it will send you to the Microsoft store if you are running windows.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:00 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

Close iTunes and launch Apple Update. That may not be the exact name, but it's 
something like it. Use it to check for updates.

Best,
Anna




On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:51 AM, Fanus  wrote:

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update
 
Hi Fanus
 
Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.
 
Debbie
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update
 
Hello list
I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?
Regards
Fanus
 
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Re: iTunes update

[Fanus]

Hello Sieghard
Yes, I know about the search function but what amazed me is the search for 
apple which showed the upgrade possibility. Thanks again for that.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iTunes update

You can search for any program, file or folder on your computer using the 
Windows 10 search box.

For example, press Windows Key and type "Downloads", it may first give you 
"Automatic file downloads privacy settings", but if you arrow down you find the 
Downloads folder, on my laptop Jaws says "Downloads, File folder in sieghard, 
Press right to switch preview"

Tuype "Ex" and if you have Excel on your computer it will most likely be the 
first option you get. Type "resolution" or the first few letters and you 
probably get "Display Settings" and if you down arrow "Screen Resolution" etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes update

 

Hello Sieghard

Thanks so much. I was not aware of the method to press windows and then type 
apple. I started the download, so everything seems to be ok.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:38 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: iTunes update

 

Hi Fanus,

 

Which version of iTunes do you have?

Is it possible you have installed the version of iTunes for Windows 10 from the 
Windows Store instead of the desktop version?

What happens if you press the Windows key and type "Apple", if I do this I hear 
Jaws say the following:

 

Apple Software Update, Desktop app, Press right to switch preview

 

If I press enter the Apple Software Update application opens, if it does for 
you, see if there is an iTunes update listed there.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes update

 

Hello Debbie

Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: Debbie April Yuille 

Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: iTunes update

 

Hi Fanus

 

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update

 

Hello list

I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?

Regards

Fanus

 

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RE: iTunes update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is only true if you installed the Windows Store version which I strongly 
discourage, the desktop version in my opinion still works much better and still 
updates via Apple Update.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Well, that has changed. Apple software update only updates iCloud. To update 
iTunes you must go to the Microsoft store. Even if you go to
www.itunes.com<http://www.itunes.com>

it will send you to the Microsoft store if you are running windows.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
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From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:00 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

Close iTunes and launch Apple Update. That may not be the exact name, but it's 
something like it. Use it to check for updates.

Best,
Anna




On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:51 AM, Fanus 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus


From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Hi Fanus

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

Debbie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iTunes update

Hello list
I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?
Regards
Fanus

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RE: iTunes update

[Robert Wright]

Well, that has changed. Apple software update only updates iCloud. To update 
iTunes you must go to the Microsoft store. Even if you go to 
www.itunes.com

it will send you to the Microsoft store if you are running windows.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
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From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:00 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

Close iTunes and launch Apple Update. That may not be the exact name, but it's 
something like it. Use it to check for updates.

Best,
Anna





On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:51 AM, Fanus  wrote:

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update
 
Hi Fanus
 
Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.
 
Debbie
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update
 
Hello list
I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?
Regards
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[Debbie April Yuille]

Make sure iTunes is actually selected by pressing space and then look for the 
install one item button.

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes update

 

Hello Debbie

Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: Debbie April Yuille 

Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: iTunes update

 

Hi Fanus

 

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update

 

Hello list

I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?

Regards

Fanus

 

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RE: iTunes update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can search for any program, file or folder on your computer using the 
Windows 10 search box.
For example, press Windows Key and type "Downloads", it may first give you 
"Automatic file downloads privacy settings", but if you arrow down you find the 
Downloads folder, on my laptop Jaws says "Downloads, File folder in sieghard, 
Press right to switch preview"
Tuype "Ex" and if you have Excel on your computer it will most likely be the 
first option you get. Type "resolution" or the first few letters and you 
probably get "Display Settings" and if you down arrow "Screen Resolution" etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello Sieghard
Thanks so much. I was not aware of the method to press windows and then type 
apple. I started the download, so everything seems to be ok.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

Which version of iTunes do you have?
Is it possible you have installed the version of iTunes for Windows 10 from the 
Windows Store instead of the desktop version?
What happens if you press the Windows key and type "Apple", if I do this I hear 
Jaws say the following:

Apple Software Update, Desktop app, Press right to switch preview

If I press enter the Apple Software Update application opens, if it does for 
you, see if there is an iTunes update listed there.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus


From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Hi Fanus

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

Debbie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update

Hello list
I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?
Regards
Fanus

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Re: iTunes update

[Fanus]

Hello Sieghard
Thanks so much. I was not aware of the method to press windows and then type 
apple. I started the download, so everything seems to be ok.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Hi Fanus,

 

Which version of iTunes do you have?

Is it possible you have installed the version of iTunes for Windows 10 from the 
Windows Store instead of the desktop version?

What happens if you press the Windows key and type "Apple", if I do this I hear 
Jaws say the following:

 

Apple Software Update, Desktop app, Press right to switch preview

 

If I press enter the Apple Software Update application opens, if it does for 
you, see if there is an iTunes update listed there.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes update

 

Hello Debbie

Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: Debbie April Yuille 

Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: iTunes update

 

Hi Fanus

 

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update

 

Hello list

I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?

Regards

Fanus

 

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RE: iTunes update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

Which version of iTunes do you have?
Is it possible you have installed the version of iTunes for Windows 10 from the 
Windows Store instead of the desktop version?
What happens if you press the Windows key and type "Apple", if I do this I hear 
Jaws say the following:

Apple Software Update, Desktop app, Press right to switch preview

If I press enter the Apple Software Update application opens, if it does for 
you, see if there is an iTunes update listed there.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes update

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus


From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Hi Fanus

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

Debbie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iTunes update

Hello list
I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?
Regards
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Re: iTunes update

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Fanus,

Close iTunes and launch Apple Update. That may not be the exact name, but it's 
something like it. Use it to check for updates.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:51 AM, Fanus  wrote:
> 
> Hello Debbie
> Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed 
> but I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download 
> from the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
> windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Debbie April Yuille <>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
> To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: iTunes update
>  
> Hi Fanus
>  
> Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
> you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes 
> update checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well 
> worth it as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.
>  
> Debbie
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Fanus
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: iTunes update
>  
> Hello list
> I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
> buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore 
> without updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu 
> I get to a web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am 
> I missing?
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[Fanus]

Hello Debbie
Thanks but that is my problem. I get to the page where iTunes is discussed but 
I get no install or download link or button. There is a link to download from 
the microsoft store but even there I do not find a link or button. I use 
windows10 and the latest version of jaws.
Regards
Fanus


From: Debbie April Yuille 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iTunes update

Hi Fanus

 

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update

 

Hello list

I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?

Regards

Fanus

 

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RE: iTunes update

[Debbie April Yuille]

Hi Fanus

 

Once you’ve checked for updates, you need to close iTunes and make sure that 
you are in the Apple Software Update program. That will have the iTunes update 
checked. You then tab to the install update button. The update is well worth it 
as the column browser and Jaws issue is fixed.

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes update

 

Hello list

I have refrained from updating iTunes on my pc because I wanted to keep on 
buying songs and albums. Now I get a message that I can not buy anymore without 
updating iTunes. When I activate the upgrade option in the help menu I get to a 
web page but I do not find any update or download button. What am I missing?

Regards

Fanus

 

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RE: ITunes 12.9.2 is out

[Debbie April Yuille]

I’m sorry I didn’t post my email directly on this list. I wasn’t sure if it was 
appropriate. But yes, I sent out an email to various JAWS lists letting 
everyone know that iTunes 12.9.2 has indeed fixed the column browser issue with 
JAWS.

 

Debbie.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 10 December 2018 3:28 AM
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Subject: RE: ITunes 12.9.2 is out

 

Hi Larry,

 

I add my voice to Debbie's, after upgrading iTunes for me the column browser 
works perfectly again. I am using Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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I see that itunes 12.9.2 is out. I’d appreciate someone checking to see if the 
column browser has been fixed. I’m not upgrading until it is.

 

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Re: ITunes 12.9.2 is out

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

I mean for the Mac operating system
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> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Not sure what you mean. What is Macooo?
>  
> From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> Is it on the macooo? 
> adrian Leong
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>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Larry,
>  
> I add my voice to Debbie's, after upgrading iTunes for me the column browser 
> works perfectly again. I am using Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
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> the column browser has been fixed. I’m not upgrading until it is.
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RE: ITunes 12.9.2 is out

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not sure what you mean. What is Macooo?

From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes 12.9.2 is out

Is it on the macooo?
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Hi Larry,

I add my voice to Debbie's, after upgrading iTunes for me the column browser 
works perfectly again. I am using Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.

Regards,
Sieghard


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I see that itunes 12.9.2 is out. I’d appreciate someone checking to see if the 
column browser has been fixed. I’m not upgrading until it is.

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Re: ITunes 12.9.2 is out

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

Is it on the macooo? 
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> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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>  
> I add my voice to Debbie's, after upgrading iTunes for me the column browser 
> works perfectly again. I am using Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.
>  
> Regards,
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RE: ITunes 12.9.2 is out

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Larry,

I add my voice to Debbie's, after upgrading iTunes for me the column browser 
works perfectly again. I am using Windows 10 and Jaws 2019.

Regards,
Sieghard


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I see that itunes 12.9.2 is out. I’d appreciate someone checking to see if the 
column browser has been fixed. I’m not upgrading until it is.

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RE: itunes 12.9.1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I can understand that, I wrote another message to Apple Accessibility last 
night, you should do so as well and complain that this has not been fixed in 
this release. Personally it makes little difference for me because while I do 
have my music in iTunes, I just don’t use it for that since I have a Sonos 
system and if I listen to music I usually just tell Alexa what to play on 
Sonos. I am currently on the free trial of Amazon Music Unlimited and while I 
have an Apple Music Family membership as well I may keep the Amazon Music 
Unlimited since it’s just so easy to just tell Alexa what I want to listen to 
and I really don’t do that much music listening any more, much more Audible.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: itunes 12.9.1

Sorry to hear that. I won’t be updating till they fix it. I use the column 
browser all the time

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:57 AM
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Subject: RE: itunes 12.9.1

Unfortunately no, it is still the same.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:51 PM
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Hi everyone. Has anyone tried itunes 12.9.1. Has the problem using the column 
browser been fixed?

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Re: iTunes 12.9.1

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,

I took delivery of a new iPhone XS couple of days back.

I used iTunes for business to set it up and all went smoothly.

I hope when I next plug in the device it doesn't auto-update to 12.9.1.

Fingers crossed.

Sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed


On 10/31/2018 6:28 PM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:


I have a nasty feeling that they won’t. You can still use iTunes on 
windows but you need to have the album/TV/movie view set to list 
rather than grid. It’s not as detailed as column browser but it’s 
better than nothing.


HTH

Debbie

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Sorry to hear that. I won’t be updating till they fix it. I use the 
column browser all the time


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Unfortunately no, it is still the same.

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RE: iTunes 12.9.1

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I have a nasty feeling that they won’t. You can still use iTunes on windows but 
you need to have the album/TV/movie view set to list rather than grid. It’s not 
as detailed as column browser but it’s better than nothing.

 

HTH

Debbie

 

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Sorry to hear that. I won’t be updating till they fix it. I use the column 
browser all the time

 

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Unfortunately no, it is still the same.

 

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RE: itunes 12.9.1

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Sorry to hear that. I won’t be updating till they fix it. I use the column 
browser all the time

 

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Unfortunately no, it is still the same.

 

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Hi everyone. Has anyone tried itunes 12.9.1. Has the problem using the column 
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RE: itunes 12.9.1

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Unfortunately no, it is still the same.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: iTunes for business working now

[Gordon]

No you need to uninstall the current version of iTunes and restart your 
computer to flush everything out. I had to install it twice because I 
didn't restart. Be


sure to uninstall all of the apple stuff after you uninstall iTunes. The 
Apple software updates and the Apple support stuff.

On 9/17/2018 3:47 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone wrote:

Can you install iTunes for Business over the usual iTunes, or will it download 
as a separate program? Thanks, Keith

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That's great news, Gordon.

Have you updated to iOS 12 yet?  If so, have you connected your device to your 
computer to see if you get any error messages from iTunes for business?  Just 
curious.

Mark

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So I was one of the ones who updated to the latest version of iTunes. So I went 
and got the business one that was talked about out here. Even though I 
uninstalled the previous version of iTunes, it said that it couldn't read a 
file because it was created by a newer version of iTunes. So I went into my 
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Re: iTunes for business working now

[Gordon]

I was running the beta for the past couple of months. So I got the GM 
last Wednesday. It all seems to be working fine. I went in and saw my 
most recent backup that I did manually at 1:04 this afternoon. You can 
tab through things like you could prior to the most recent version of 
iTunes and get to the button to see all about your iPhone. but you might 
have to delete the iTunes folder from your music folder to get past that 
error about it not being able to read a file because the file was 
created by a recent version of iTunes. I'm running windows 10 on my PC.



On 9/17/2018 3:43 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

That's great news, Gordon.

Have you updated to iOS 12 yet?  If so, have you connected your device to your 
computer to see if you get any error messages from iTunes for business?  Just 
curious.

Mark

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Subject: iTunes for business working now

So I was one of the ones who updated to the latest version of iTunes. So I went 
and got the business one that was talked about out here. Even though I 
uninstalled the previous version of iTunes, it said that it couldn't read a 
file because it was created by a newer version of iTunes. So I went into my 
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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: iTunes for business working now

[M. Taylor]

Keith,

The short answer to your question is, no.

In order to use iTunes for business, after having installed the latest version 
of standard iTunes, you will have to first delete the latest version and then 
install business.  

However, you must also save your current .I.T.L. files in order to save your 
current iTunes library.  

Before updating, I suggest that you google how to prepare your iTunes library 
for downgrading to iTunes for business.  It is not a difficult process but one 
that you should thoroughly understand before beginning the process.

Mark 

-Original Message-
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To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: iTunes for business working now

Can you install iTunes for Business over the usual iTunes, or will it download 
as a separate program? Thanks, Keith

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That's great news, Gordon.

Have you updated to iOS 12 yet?  If so, have you connected your device to your 
computer to see if you get any error messages from iTunes for business?  Just 
curious.

Mark

-Original Message-
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Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for business working now

So I was one of the ones who updated to the latest version of iTunes. So I went 
and got the business one that was talked about out here. Even though I 
uninstalled the previous version of iTunes, it said that it couldn't read a 
file because it was created by a newer version of iTunes. So I went into my 
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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: iTunes for business working now

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Can you install iTunes for Business over the usual iTunes, or will it download 
as a separate program? Thanks, Keith

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M. Taylor
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That's great news, Gordon.

Have you updated to iOS 12 yet?  If so, have you connected your device to your 
computer to see if you get any error messages from iTunes for business?  Just 
curious.

Mark

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Subject: iTunes for business working now

So I was one of the ones who updated to the latest version of iTunes. So I went 
and got the business one that was talked about out here. Even though I 
uninstalled the previous version of iTunes, it said that it couldn't read a 
file because it was created by a newer version of iTunes. So I went into my 
music folder and deleted the iTunes folder and it works fine now. Everything is 
there that I need it looks like and it's accessible. I only use iTunes to load 
tones on my phone and for backups.

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RE: iTunes for business working now

[M. Taylor]

That's great news, Gordon.

Have you updated to iOS 12 yet?  If so, have you connected your device to your 
computer to see if you get any error messages from iTunes for business?  Just 
curious.

Mark

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Subject: iTunes for business working now

So I was one of the ones who updated to the latest version of iTunes. So I went 
and got the business one that was talked about out here. Even though I 
uninstalled the previous version of iTunes, it said that it couldn't read a 
file because it was created by a newer version of iTunes. So I went into my 
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RE: iTunes 12.7.4

[Cher Bosch]

I have 2 issues. 1) I can no longer burn the full 1 hour 20 min. on a CD. In 
order to burn one with 1 hour and 18 min., I had to delete one song- reducing 
it to 1 hour and 15 minuts. Same playlist and same blank disks. 

2) Control-J will open up only 2 of the dozens of view options on playlists 
created after version 12.2.1. The older playlists still show and allow you to 
change the dozens of options. 

 

Waiting for Apple accessibility to call back with some explanation re the 
inability to burn an entire disk.

 

Cher

 

 

 

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Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:07 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: iTunes 12.7.4

 

Hi All,

 

Is this latest iTunes okay to install?  Has anyone had any problems navigating 
it using Jaws & Windows 7?  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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RE: iTunes 12.7.4

[Reg Sullivan]

I have successfully installed and am using it with no difference from the 
previous version.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Subject: iTunes 12.7.4

 

Hi All,

 

Is this latest iTunes okay to install?  Has anyone had any problems navigating 
it using Jaws & Windows 7?  All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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RE: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you hear Undo you are pressing Control+Z and not Jaws Key+Z

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Simon Wong
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Subject: Re: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off

What about doing a insert z,
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Jen . 
<jencol...@hotmail.com<mailto:jencol...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all it says is undo. Is there any other way to tell.
Jen

On Dec 10, 2017, at 5:21 PM, 
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<llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
It should say “vvirtual cursor on or off” or maybe it’s active or inactive” I 
can’t rememgber.

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Hi,
Is there a way to tell what mode you’re in.
Jen

On Dec 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, 
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<llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
Do control-z again

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Subject: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off

Hi,
So last night I posted about not being able to sign in to my iTunes account 
with jaws on my pc with jaws.  Someone said to use control Z which allowed me 
to sign in but now I ask how do I set things back to the mode jaws was in 
before.
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off

[Simon Wong]

What about doing a insert z,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 10, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Jen . <jencol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all it says is undo. Is there any other way to tell.
> Jen
> 
> On Dec 10, 2017, at 5:21 PM, "llump...@austin.rr.com" 
> <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> It should say “vvirtual cursor on or off” or maybe it’s active or inactive” 
>> I can’t rememgber.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jen .
>> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 1:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off
>>  
>> Hi,
>> Is there a way to tell what mode you’re in.
>> Jen
>> 
>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, "llump...@austin.rr.com" 
>> <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Do control-z again
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jen .
>> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off
>>  
>> Hi, 
>> So last night I posted about not being able to sign in to my iTunes account 
>> with jaws on my pc with jaws.  Someone said to use control Z which allowed 
>> me to sign in but now I ask how do I set things back to the mode jaws was in 
>> before. 
>> Thanks. 
>> Jen 
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