Re: Lightning alert for the WDT weather radio app

2021-01-02 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,

It should be noted that this app is no longer supported by its maker 
who's been bought out by another company. Thus no new in app purchases 
will go through.


The Weather Channel offers lightning alerts as does Storm Shield though 
the latter is a paid subscription but it is very similar to Weather 
Radio right down to the alert sound. Sadly no existing weather apps that 
I know offer the lightning all clear alert that weather radio alert used 
to feature but there are options for lightning alerts in general as I've 
indicated above. I hope that helps.


Take good care.

Robin


On 1/1/2021 9:42 AM, Wren Langley wrote:

Hi,
Thank you for the instructions. I did what you said, and when I got to purchase 
the lightning alert I double tapped on it and all I would say is loading 
product from App Store then it didn’t go any further. Your instructions were 
great.

Any other thoughts? Thanks. I hope I can figure this out because I do really 
like this app.

God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 31, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Gadget Girl  wrote:

Hi there. I renew my subscription every year without issue. renewal has been 
$4.99 per year.

Registration is optional; but  in order to restore your purchase, you will need 
to be registered.

When you first open the App and flicking to the right, you will hear a list of your 
saved Locations you have designated to be monitored; Then Maps. If you continue 
swiping to the right, VoiceOver jumps back to the  top, does not take you to the 
bottom, and continues to go back to the top and read down the list again. So,  
place your finger in the lower left corner (about a half inch from the Bottom). You 
should now be on the ToolBar. Now, when swiping to the right, You should hear: 
Purchase Lightning, Add Location, Share, Settings, and Play Audio. selecting 
Purchase Lightning will take you to the Option you are looking for. My subscription 
is still active until next year so my screen displays, 'Lightning Alert Switch 
Button On' and my subscription's Expiry Date. If the subscription has expired, it 
generally would show options to purchase Lightning Alerts for $4.99.  I believe the 
Restore option is to move an active Subscription to a new Device. Once purchased, 
be sure to go to Settings to turn on your preferences for the App, such as 
Lightning & National Weather Service (NWS) Alerts. Note, the 'Back Button' is 
at the top left corner. Hope this helps.

Best,
Anita


On Dec 31, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:

Hi all,
Does anyone know if this lightning alert can still be purchased? Every time I 
try to get a new subscription it says that my  purchase can’t be restored 
because the purchase has expired. I can’t find any way to purchase it or to 
renew it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Happy new year,
God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Lightning alert for the WDT weather radio app

2021-01-01 Thread Gadget Girl
Hi. I agree with Richard… Call Apple Accessibility. Sometimes I need to delete 
my apps and reinstall them due to corruption of files, but this could be an 
Apple accessibility problem. Good luck. Happy new year!

Best,
Anita 

> On Jan 1, 2021, at 9:43 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Thank you for the instructions. I did what you said, and when I got to 
> purchase the lightning alert I double tapped on it and all I would say is 
> loading product from App Store then it didn’t go any further. Your 
> instructions were great.
> 
> Any other thoughts? Thanks. I hope I can figure this out because I do really 
> like this app.
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Gadget Girl  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there. I renew my subscription every year without issue. renewal has 
>> been $4.99 per year.
>> 
>> Registration is optional; but  in order to restore your purchase, you will 
>> need to be registered.
>> 
>> When you first open the App and flicking to the right, you will hear a list 
>> of your saved Locations you have designated to be monitored; Then Maps. If 
>> you continue swiping to the right, VoiceOver jumps back to the  top, does 
>> not take you to the bottom, and continues to go back to the top and read 
>> down the list again. So,  place your finger in the lower left corner (about 
>> a half inch from the Bottom). You should now be on the ToolBar. Now, when 
>> swiping to the right, You should hear: Purchase Lightning, Add Location, 
>> Share, Settings, and Play Audio. selecting Purchase Lightning will take you 
>> to the Option you are looking for. My subscription is still active until 
>> next year so my screen displays, 'Lightning Alert Switch Button On' and my 
>> subscription's Expiry Date. If the subscription has expired, it generally 
>> would show options to purchase Lightning Alerts for $4.99.  I believe the 
>> Restore option is to move an active Subscription to a new Device. Once 
>> purchased, be sure to go to Settings to turn on your preferences for the 
>> App, such as Lightning & National Weather Service (NWS) Alerts. Note, the 
>> 'Back Button' is at the top left corner. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anita
>> 
 On Dec 31, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Does anyone know if this lightning alert can still be purchased? Every time 
>>> I try to get a new subscription it says that my  purchase can’t be restored 
>>> because the purchase has expired. I can’t find any way to purchase it or to 
>>> renew it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Happy new year,
>>> God bless,
>>> Wren Langley
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Lightning alert for the WDT weather radio app

2021-01-01 Thread Richard Turner
Perhaps calling Apple accessibility. 877-204-3930


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
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young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Jan 1, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Thank you for the instructions. I did what you said, and when I got to 
> purchase the lightning alert I double tapped on it and all I would say is 
> loading product from App Store then it didn’t go any further. Your 
> instructions were great.
> 
> Any other thoughts? Thanks. I hope I can figure this out because I do really 
> like this app.
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Gadget Girl  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there. I renew my subscription every year without issue. renewal has 
>> been $4.99 per year.
>> 
>> Registration is optional; but  in order to restore your purchase, you will 
>> need to be registered.
>> 
>> When you first open the App and flicking to the right, you will hear a list 
>> of your saved Locations you have designated to be monitored; Then Maps. If 
>> you continue swiping to the right, VoiceOver jumps back to the  top, does 
>> not take you to the bottom, and continues to go back to the top and read 
>> down the list again. So,  place your finger in the lower left corner (about 
>> a half inch from the Bottom). You should now be on the ToolBar. Now, when 
>> swiping to the right, You should hear: Purchase Lightning, Add Location, 
>> Share, Settings, and Play Audio. selecting Purchase Lightning will take you 
>> to the Option you are looking for. My subscription is still active until 
>> next year so my screen displays, 'Lightning Alert Switch Button On' and my 
>> subscription's Expiry Date. If the subscription has expired, it generally 
>> would show options to purchase Lightning Alerts for $4.99.  I believe the 
>> Restore option is to move an active Subscription to a new Device. Once 
>> purchased, be sure to go to Settings to turn on your preferences for the 
>> App, such as Lightning & National Weather Service (NWS) Alerts. Note, the 
>> 'Back Button' is at the top left corner. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anita
>> 
 On Dec 31, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Does anyone know if this lightning alert can still be purchased? Every time 
>>> I try to get a new subscription it says that my  purchase can’t be restored 
>>> because the purchase has expired. I can’t find any way to purchase it or to 
>>> renew it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Happy new year,
>>> God bless,
>>> Wren Langley
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Lightning alert for the WDT weather radio app

2021-01-01 Thread Wren Langley
Hi,
Thank you for the instructions. I did what you said, and when I got to purchase 
the lightning alert I double tapped on it and all I would say is loading 
product from App Store then it didn’t go any further. Your instructions were 
great.

Any other thoughts? Thanks. I hope I can figure this out because I do really 
like this app.

God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Gadget Girl  wrote:
> 
> Hi there. I renew my subscription every year without issue. renewal has been 
> $4.99 per year.
> 
> Registration is optional; but  in order to restore your purchase, you will 
> need to be registered.
> 
> When you first open the App and flicking to the right, you will hear a list 
> of your saved Locations you have designated to be monitored; Then Maps. If 
> you continue swiping to the right, VoiceOver jumps back to the  top, does not 
> take you to the bottom, and continues to go back to the top and read down the 
> list again. So,  place your finger in the lower left corner (about a half 
> inch from the Bottom). You should now be on the ToolBar. Now, when swiping to 
> the right, You should hear: Purchase Lightning, Add Location, Share, 
> Settings, and Play Audio. selecting Purchase Lightning will take you to the 
> Option you are looking for. My subscription is still active until next year 
> so my screen displays, 'Lightning Alert Switch Button On' and my 
> subscription's Expiry Date. If the subscription has expired, it generally 
> would show options to purchase Lightning Alerts for $4.99.  I believe the 
> Restore option is to move an active Subscription to a new Device. Once 
> purchased, be sure to go to Settings to turn on your preferences for the App, 
> such as Lightning & National Weather Service (NWS) Alerts. Note, the 'Back 
> Button' is at the top left corner. Hope this helps.
> 
> Best,
> Anita
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Does anyone know if this lightning alert can still be purchased? Every time 
>> I try to get a new subscription it says that my  purchase can’t be restored 
>> because the purchase has expired. I can’t find any way to purchase it or to 
>> renew it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
>> 
>> Happy new year,
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Lightning alert for the WDT weather radio app

2020-12-31 Thread Gadget Girl
Hi there. I renew my subscription every year without issue. renewal has been 
$4.99 per year.

Registration is optional; but  in order to restore your purchase, you will need 
to be registered.

When you first open the App and flicking to the right, you will hear a list of 
your saved Locations you have designated to be monitored; Then Maps. If you 
continue swiping to the right, VoiceOver jumps back to the  top, does not take 
you to the bottom, and continues to go back to the top and read down the list 
again. So,  place your finger in the lower left corner (about a half inch from 
the Bottom). You should now be on the ToolBar. Now, when swiping to the right, 
You should hear: Purchase Lightning, Add Location, Share, Settings, and Play 
Audio. selecting Purchase Lightning will take you to the Option you are looking 
for. My subscription is still active until next year so my screen displays, 
'Lightning Alert Switch Button On' and my subscription's Expiry Date. If the 
subscription has expired, it generally would show options to purchase Lightning 
Alerts for $4.99.  I believe the Restore option is to move an active 
Subscription to a new Device. Once purchased, be sure to go to Settings to turn 
on your preferences for the App, such as Lightning & National Weather Service 
(NWS) Alerts. Note, the 'Back Button' is at the top left corner. Hope this 
helps.

Best,
Anita

> On Dec 31, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Wren Langley  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Does anyone know if this lightning alert can still be purchased? Every time I 
> try to get a new subscription it says that my  purchase can’t be restored 
> because the purchase has expired. I can’t find any way to purchase it or to 
> renew it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
> 
> Happy new year,
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-23 Thread Jewel
At least, one has the comfort of knowing if one hears the thunder, that one can 
be confident that, 
unless he/she is one of the microscopic number of lightning-proof people, 
he/she hasn't been struck.
I heard of a guy who took shelter in a shed that stood in his horse's  paddock 
.  He heard, what 
sounded like an explosion, and when he poked his head out of the shed, there  
was a scorched patch 
on the ground, and, nearby, the blackened corpse of the animal.
 Shod horses are, particularly, vulnerable to lightning strikes because of 
their iron footwear.

 Jewel

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From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:25 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

Yeah but those that have been hit and survived are a lot less than those who 
have been hit and not 
survived.

 Some guy in the states had seemingly been hit 7 times

And if a storm is rolling in from somewhere and you can hear the thunder then 
the lightneing is 
going to be on you quicker than you can move.

 Remember that lightening is the fastest thing we have on earth
Being light and electricity
The noise is the sound barrier being broken


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

I agree with Simon that being alerted when lightning has struck:  a little late 
for that, but I 
disagree with him that being struck by lightning will put both you and your 
phone out of order 
because there are many recorded instances of unfortunate and, obviously, 
attractive people who have 
been lightning-struck, not only once but several-many times who have lived to 
bore their friends 
with the tale of their, miraculous, experience.

  Jewel

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From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,  I don't see the 
point?

 If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,  Then if it's 
already struck, it will 
be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will be 
working.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has 
struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-23 Thread Gadget Girl
Hi. I listened to a podcast that was reviewed on AppleVis years ago and got the 
app, Weather Radio. It has a paid Lightening Alert which was (and still is) 
$4.99 USD.  You renew it every year. Although sometimes I miss the date, it 
still gives me alerts.  It gives lightening at approx. 4 miles out and is very 
accurate in my case.  i've been using it a very long time… Years; and have 
never been struct!

Best regards,
Anita

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Yea, I have a friend here in Florida who has been struck 5 times.  He is like 
> a lightening magnet!  When a thunder storm is near, he does not stay near us 
> if we are outside.
> Lightening here is a real problem that we all take seriously.  That is why it 
> is so important to be able to get any kind of warning if there is a 
> lightening strike anywhere within say 30 miles or so.  These storms can move 
> 40 to 50 MPH so it does not take long till it is on us.  Our public schools 
> are told that if there is one lightening flash within 30 miles, they must 
> hold the students inside for an additional 30 minutes till they can be 
> dismissed or go outside.  We need apps that will give us any advanced warning.
> -Steve
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lightning alert
> 
> Yeah but those that have been hit and survived are a lot less than those who 
> have been hit and not survived.
> 
> Some guy in the states had seemingly been hit 7 times 
> 
> And if a storm is rolling in from somewhere and you can hear the thunder then 
> the lightneing is going to be on you quicker than you can move.
> 
> Remember that lightening is the fastest thing we have on earth Being light 
> and electricity The noise is the sound barrier being broken 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
> Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> I agree with Simon that being alerted when lightning has struck:  a little 
> late for that, but I disagree with him that being struck by lightning will 
> put both you and your phone out of order because there are many recorded 
> instances of unfortunate and, obviously, attractive people who have been 
> lightning-struck, not only once but several-many times who have lived to bore 
> their friends with the tale of their, miraculous, experience.
> 
>  Jewel
> 
> ------
> From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: Lightning alert
> 
> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,  I don't see the 
> point?
> 
> If it's struck then it's not an issue
> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,  Then if it's 
> already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or 
> your phone will be working.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lightning alert
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-23 Thread Steve Sweeney
Hi,
Yea, I have a friend here in Florida who has been struck 5 times.  He is like a 
lightening magnet!  When a thunder storm is near, he does not stay near us if 
we are outside.
Lightening here is a real problem that we all take seriously.  That is why it 
is so important to be able to get any kind of warning if there is a lightening 
strike anywhere within say 30 miles or so.  These storms can move 40 to 50 MPH 
so it does not take long till it is on us.  Our public schools are told that if 
there is one lightening flash within 30 miles, they must hold the students 
inside for an additional 30 minutes till they can be dismissed or go outside.  
We need apps that will give us any advanced warning.
-Steve

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

Yeah but those that have been hit and survived are a lot less than those who 
have been hit and not survived.

 Some guy in the states had seemingly been hit 7 times 

And if a storm is rolling in from somewhere and you can hear the thunder then 
the lightneing is going to be on you quicker than you can move.

 Remember that lightening is the fastest thing we have on earth Being light and 
electricity The noise is the sound barrier being broken 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

I agree with Simon that being alerted when lightning has struck:  a little late 
for that, but I disagree with him that being struck by lightning will put both 
you and your phone out of order because there are many recorded instances of 
unfortunate and, obviously, attractive people who have been lightning-struck, 
not only once but several-many times who have lived to bore their friends with 
the tale of their, miraculous, experience.

  Jewel

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From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,  I don't see the 
point?

 If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,  Then if it's 
already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or 
your phone will be working.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-23 Thread Bill Gallik




- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.7) via Google Mail
I’ve had two dog guides, both from Leader, and they did originally show some 
anxiety durring thunder storms.  In fact, my first dog and I got caught in a 
fast moving thunderstorm on one of our very first walks in Wheaton.  I had 
decided to go to the neighborhood Convenient store about three blocks from 
home..  We were almost there when thunder and rain showers started.  I sat him 
down gently and put my arm around his neck and scratched his ears while softly 
assuring him we were OK.  He settled down and never had an issue with thunder 
again.  But then, I suppose that my temperament of thoroughly enjoying thunder 
storms was readily sensed by Jake.

Holland, my second dog, never quite completely got over the thunderstorm 
anxiety syndrome, although it did diminish significantly after several such 
storms and my reaction.  But, I had brought Jake home in April whereupon we had 
an opportunity to experience a thunderstorm immediately.  Holland came home (to 
Superior) in mid October whence thunderstorms are very rare affairs in northern 
Wisconsin.  So, Holland was with me at least seven months before thunderstorms 
would occur.  I do believe that was a bit too much an upheaval of his calm 
wintry environment.  Still, he was a trooper and carried on with his duties.


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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah but those that have been hit and survived are a lot less than those who 
have been hit and not survived.

 Some guy in the states had seemingly been hit 7 times 

And if a storm is rolling in from somewhere and you can hear the thunder then 
the lightneing is going to be on you quicker than you can move.

 Remember that lightening is the fastest thing we have on earth 
Being light and electricity 
The noise is the sound barrier being broken 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

I agree with Simon that being alerted when lightning has struck:  a little late 
for that, but I disagree with him that being struck by lightning will put both 
you and your phone out of order because there are many recorded instances of 
unfortunate and, obviously, attractive people who have been lightning-struck, 
not only once but several-many times who have lived to bore their friends with 
the tale of their, miraculous, experience.

  Jewel

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From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,  I don't see the 
point?

 If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,  Then if it's 
already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or 
your phone will be working.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah I'm wondering that also?

 Guess it will be warmer than it was before the lightening!

Unless it's a lead sweater and will protect the dog when the lightening strikes.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when there is 
lightening about going to do for the dog?

-Original Message-
From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

Simon,

If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it is 
thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I don't 
> see the point?
>
> If it's struck then it's not an issue
> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out, Then if 
> it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as 
> neither yu or your phone will be working.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lightning alert
>
> Hi,
>
> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted 
> me to when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
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RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Like people all dogs are different,
Some will be fine in these situations and some wont be.

I've had  3 guide dogs and 1 of them hated fireworks and thunger if it heard it,

One couldn't care less and the other wasn't a fan of the fireworks but thunder 
and lightening wasn't an issue 
The one that hated loud noises / thunger etc also wasn't a fan of being hugged 





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Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no in

RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Help with what?

 Comfort?
Or making the dog protected from lightening?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 1:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs and 
they say they help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I don't 
>>> see the point?
>>> 
>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about it 
>>> striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it will 
>>> be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will be 
>>> working.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
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RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Sweeney
Yes, if only we could talk to them and make them understand it is ok and they 
are not going to get hurt.
-Steve


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
pattigj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I have had 8 guide dogs and my first one was the only one that truly showed any 
fear of storms.  But she was a trooper and up till her last year here when her 
fear escalated in to just plain fear of sounds, that she handled it quite well 
in spite of her obvious dislike of storms where she'd go hide if she could, or 
she would tremble until I would just lay my hand on her and talk to her calmly.

Patti

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

Before I tell you all about the Netty and Guy story and thunder story, I've 
never heard in all these many years from 1976 when I got my dog and all these 
years of many friends attending the different guide dog schools including 
leader dog, amoungst so many things that goes into a dog's training in being 
fully prepared and ready to handle everything that comes their way, I never 
heard of a guide dog school working with the dogs on fear of thunder, but 
that's probably something that's included with so many other things in their 
training and preparation for being a guide dog. Of course, just like people 
dogs have other fears. Though it does seem comon that many dogs have a fear of 
thunder and fire works, but just like common fears that people have, amoungst 
dogs too, not every dog or person have those most common fears. It would 
probably would be beneficial if the guide dog schools worked with the dogs with 
the fear of thunder, and possibly many of the schools are doing just that and 
we're not aware of that. That could be important if you're either a block or 2 
from home or a block or 2 from transportation to get you home, it wouldn't be 
the best situation for your dog to be very frightened. Though in a situation 
such as that hopefully it would be great if there was a place very near by 
where you could wait until the rain and thunder is over. So While this isn't a 
guide dog support group, it would be a sad reflection on a guide dog school to 
asume that fears including the fear of thunder isn't worked on with the dogs, 
especially on what we individually know. Of all the dogs I've known, pet dogs 
and guide dogs with the exception of one dog, all the dogs had a fear of 
thunder. It's something that can vary from person to person, concerning the 
dogs they know, for example another person might say, the majority dogs I know 
aren't a fraid, or in terms of duge dogs, someone could say that they know 5 
dogs from such and such guide dog school that have no fear of thunder and 2 
that are afraid of thunder, and that they know 6 dogs from another guide dog 
school where 3 of the dogs are afraraid of thunder and 3 that aren't. I would 
habe to hear that would be the determining thing about one school being better 
than the other, there's just so very manythings they work on with preparing and 
training the dogs and of course all of that is something we all know. Now for 
the Netty and Guy story, both guide dogs from guiding eyes, Netty was my dog 
and she was a yellow labrador, and Guy was a german shepherd that belonged to 
my friend Greg. Along with a few other fwith Greg, at his  apartment, It was 
the 4th of july in about 1979, you could hear fire crackers and on top of that 
it began to thunder. Knowing how scared Netty was of thunder storms I went to 
her, and found her lying on one of the couches really scared. Then Guy came 
into the living room, and was just walking around the room, to him everything 
was fine, just barking here and there. Clearly he wasn't nervous or a fraid of 
the fire works and thunder, and I was thinking it was as if he was trying to 
tell us something. Fast forward about 6 months later, this one night, in our 
own apartment, it began thundering and raining, this time it was different for 
netty, while she seemed still a little nervous about the thunder, it was 
nothing like other times when she was so scared of it, and she even barked 
somewhat like Guy did. So we just know Guy must have been helping her not to be 
afraid of thunder, and she remembered that and he helped her with that.
- Original Message -
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert


I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread pattigj1206
I have had 8 guide dogs and my first one was the only one that truly showed any 
fear of storms.  But she was a trooper and up till her last year here when her 
fear escalated in to just plain fear of sounds, that she handled it quite well 
in spite of her obvious dislike of storms where she'd go hide if she could, or 
she would tremble until I would just lay my hand on her and talk to her calmly.

Patti

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

Before I tell you all about the Netty and Guy story and thunder story, I've 
never heard in all these many years from 1976 when I got my dog and all these 
years of many friends attending the different guide dog schools including 
leader dog, amoungst so many things that goes into a dog's training in being 
fully prepared and ready to handle everything that comes their way, I never 
heard of a guide dog school working with the dogs on fear of thunder, but 
that's probably something that's included with so many other things in their 
training and preparation for being a guide dog. Of course, just like people 
dogs have other fears. Though it does seem comon that many dogs have a fear of 
thunder and fire works, but just like common fears that people have, amoungst 
dogs too, not every dog or person have those most common fears. It would 
probably would be beneficial if the guide dog schools worked with the dogs with 
the fear of thunder, and possibly many of the schools are doing just that and 
we're not aware of that. That could be important if you're either a block or 2 
from home or a block or 2 from transportation to get you home, it wouldn't be 
the best situation for your dog to be very frightened. Though in a situation 
such as that hopefully it would be great if there was a place very near by 
where you could wait until the rain and thunder is over. So While this isn't a 
guide dog support group, it would be a sad reflection on a guide dog school to 
asume that fears including the fear of thunder isn't worked on with the dogs, 
especially on what we individually know. Of all the dogs I've known, pet dogs 
and guide dogs with the exception of one dog, all the dogs had a fear of 
thunder. It's something that can vary from person to person, concerning the 
dogs they know, for example another person might say, the majority dogs I know 
aren't a fraid, or in terms of duge dogs, someone could say that they know 5 
dogs from such and such guide dog school that have no fear of thunder and 2 
that are afraid of thunder, and that they know 6 dogs from another guide dog 
school where 3 of the dogs are afraraid of thunder and 3 that aren't. I would 
habe to hear that would be the determining thing about one school being better 
than the other, there's just so very manythings they work on with preparing and 
training the dogs and of course all of that is something we all know. Now for 
the Netty and Guy story, both guide dogs from guiding eyes, Netty was my dog 
and she was a yellow labrador, and Guy was a german shepherd that belonged to 
my friend Greg. Along with a few other fwith Greg, at his  apartment, It was 
the 4th of july in about 1979, you could hear fire crackers and on top of that 
it began to thunder. Knowing how scared Netty was of thunder storms I went to 
her, and found her lying on one of the couches really scared. Then Guy came 
into the living room, and was just walking around the room, to him everything 
was fine, just barking here and there. Clearly he wasn't nervous or a fraid of 
the fire works and thunder, and I was thinking it was as if he was trying to 
tell us something. Fast forward about 6 months later, this one night, in our 
own apartment, it began thundering and raining, this time it was different for 
netty, while she seemed still a little nervous about the thunder, it was 
nothing like other times when she was so scared of it, and she even barked 
somewhat like Guy did. So we just know Guy must have been helping her not to be 
afraid of thunder, and she remembered that and he helped her with that.
- Original Message -
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert


I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weit

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jewel
With the exception of one:  my second:  I have trained all my own guidedogs and 
I remember that I 
subjected only one to gunshots which we the nearest simulation I could get to 
backfiring.
During the test, Sieger remained, 100% calm, but as for the farm dog, it dived 
under the nearby 
tractor and remained in that sturdy vehicle's protection till long after Sieger 
and I had gone home.

   Jewel

--
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 6:27 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of 
them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning 
alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during 
thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have 
> been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some dogs and not for others 
> as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to 
> defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a flame fight or 
> anuything like that. 
> Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. 
>> Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only 
>> make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you 
>> would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm 
>> and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block 
>> light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or
>> windowless bathroom
>>
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on 
>> the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added pressure, much like a 
>> baby feels safe when 
>> swaddled. If this seems to help, consider buying a special anti-anxiety 
>> garment, such as the 
>> Thundershirt or Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's 
>> chest, but make sure 
>> you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout 
>> the body are being targeted, and to avoid injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress 
>> relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments 
>> (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The air flowing through the 
>> moistened fabric will act 
>> as a cooling agent. Always supervise your dog if you're concerned about 
>> health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and
>> help him/her stay

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jennie Facer
That is so true. My second dog from Leader dogs was very afraid of fireworks 
but not thunder until later on in her life. She got over her fireworks fear. My 
three dogs have not been afraid of thunder though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I think they do try hard to test for this but as with all things it is not an 
> exact science and some do slip through.  The other thing is a lot of time, 
> they can become afraid later in life.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 
> 3 dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks 
> or gunshots.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd 
> seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.
> 
> Caitlyn
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>> 
>> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
>> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
>> dogs and not for others as much.
>> -Steve
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
>> Lightning alert
>> 
>> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
>> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start 
>> a flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>> 
>>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>>> and improve its response to the
>>> 
>>> Part 1
>>> Calming Your Dog
>>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>>> thunder. 
>>> 
>>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. 
>>> Follow the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a 
>>> calm, reassuring tone. 
>>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help 
>>> your dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>> 
>>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>>> owner.
>>> Here are a few options:
>>> • Under a table or bed
>>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>>> windowless bathroom
>>> 
>>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>>> injuring your dog.
>>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupre

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jewel
I have owned dogs, of all shapes and sizes since 1959, and not one of them 
has ever shown the 
slightest sign of fear, or worse, re electrical storms and this is, I am 
convinced, because I love 
electrical storms:  the more spectacular, the better;  and fireworks?  well I 
can't say that I * 
love them, but they, most assuredly, don't bother me or my dog/s!

 Jewel
--
From: "Jennie Facer" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 2:43 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will go 
way beyond to defend 
these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a flame fight or anuything 
like that. Thanks for 
clearing it all up.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms
> Beverly Ulbrich, MBA
> Dog Behaviorist & Trainer
> March 25, 2020
>
> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
> electricity, and barometric 
> pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and panic. In this
> state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. Learn how to manage 
> your dog's fear during 
> this frightening storm, and improve its response to the
>
> Part 1
> Calming Your Dog
> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
> underway to find your dog. 
> Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear thunder.
>
> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
> know, and this will only 
> make matters worse.
> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
> the same routine you 
> would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, reassuring tone.
> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
> dog by being calm and 
> happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>
> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
> this spot will block 
> light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its owner.
> Here are a few options:
> • Under a table or bed
> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it
> • In a closet or windowless bathroom
>
> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
> huddle under your arm on 
> the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added pressure, much like a baby 
> feels safe when 
> swaddled. If this seems to help, consider buying a special anti-anxiety 
> garment, such as the 
> Thundershirt or Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's 
> chest, but make sure 
> you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
> acupressure points throughout 
> the body are being targeted, and to avoid injuring your dog.
> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
> associated with stress 
> relief.
> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
> overheating, some garments 
> (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The air flowing through the 
> moistened fabric will act 
> as a cooling agent. Always supervise your dog if you're concerned about 
> health/safety.
> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and help 
> him/her stay calm if you 
> need to leave the house. Consult the product directions
> for safety information.
>
> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
> machine) can help 
> drown out the thunder.
> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting.
> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
>
> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from windows, 
> or put up heavy 
> curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an additional source of 
> anxiety. Block the dog's 
> access to exits, since some scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors.
>
> Play games.
> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could play fetch 
> or put on music and 
> dance together. Try to find an activity that will turn
> your dog's attention away from the storm.
>
> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to 
> treat anxiety. Always use 
> remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some essential oils that work for 
> humans may cause 
> discomfort or injury in animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required 
> as well.
> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are very 
> concentrated and can be 
> harmful to your skin as well as your dog's. They can also
> damage furniture.
>

Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jewel
I agree with Simon that being alerted when lightning has struck:  a little late 
for that, but I 
disagree with him that being struck by lightning will put both you and your 
phone out of order 
because there are many recorded instances of unfortunate and, obviously, 
attractive people who have 
been lightning-struck, not only once but several-many times who have lived to 
bore their friends 
with the tale of their, miraculous, experience.

  Jewel

--
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:49 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
 I don't see the point?

 If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
 Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as 
neither yu or your 
phone will be working.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has 
struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Sweeney
Hi,
My first dog was very afraid but if he was working, he would keep going all be 
it a little faster and get us inside.
-Steve


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
&g

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Sweeney
Hi,
I think they do try hard to test for this but as with all things it is not an 
exact science and some do slip through.  The other thing is a lot of time, they 
can become afraid later in life.
-Steve


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
>> directions for safety information.
>> 
>> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
>> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
>> Choos

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Arlene
Before I tell you all about the Netty and Guy story and thunder story, I've 
never heard in all these many years from 1976 when I got my dog and all 
these years of many friends attending the different guide dog schools 
including leader dog, amoungst so many things that goes into a dog's 
training in being fully prepared and ready to handle everything that comes 
their way, I never heard of a guide dog school working with the dogs on fear 
of thunder, but that's probably something that's included with so many other 
things in their training and preparation for being a guide dog. Of course, 
just like people dogs have other fears. Though it does seem comon that many 
dogs have a fear of thunder and fire works, but just like common fears that 
people have, amoungst dogs too, not every dog or person have those most 
common fears. It would probably would be beneficial if the guide dog schools 
worked with the dogs with the fear of thunder, and possibly many of the 
schools are doing just that and we're not aware of that. That could be 
important if you're either a block or 2 from home or a block or 2 from 
transportation to get you home, it wouldn't be the best situation for your 
dog to be very frightened. Though in a situation such as that hopefully it 
would be great if there was a place very near by where you could wait until 
the rain and thunder is over. So While this isn't a guide dog support group, 
it would be a sad reflection on a guide dog school to asume that fears 
including the fear of thunder isn't worked on with the dogs, especially on 
what we individually know. Of all the dogs I've known, pet dogs and guide 
dogs with the exception of one dog, all the dogs had a fear of thunder. It's 
something that can vary from person to person, concerning the dogs they 
know, for example another person might say, the majority dogs I know aren't 
a fraid, or in terms of duge dogs, someone could say that they know 5 dogs 
from such and such guide dog school that have no fear of thunder and 2 that 
are afraid of thunder, and that they know 6 dogs from another guide dog 
school where 3 of the dogs are afraraid of thunder and 3 that aren't. I 
would habe to hear that would be the determining thing about one school 
being better than the other, there's just so very manythings they work on 
with preparing and training the dogs and of course all of that is something 
we all know. Now for the Netty and Guy story, both guide dogs from guiding 
eyes, Netty was my dog and she was a yellow labrador, and Guy was a german 
shepherd that belonged to my friend Greg. Along with a few other fwith Greg, 
at his  apartment, It was the 4th of july in about 1979, you could hear fire 
crackers and on top of that it began to thunder. Knowing how scared Netty 
was of thunder storms I went to her, and found her lying on one of the 
couches really scared. Then Guy came into the living room, and was just 
walking around the room, to him everything was fine, just barking here and 
there. Clearly he wasn't nervous or a fraid of the fire works and thunder, 
and I was thinking it was as if he was trying to tell us something. Fast 
forward about 6 months later, this one night, in our own apartment, it began 
thundering and raining, this time it was different for netty, while she 
seemed still a little nervous about the thunder, it was nothing like other 
times when she was so scared of it, and she even barked somewhat like Guy 
did. So we just know Guy must have been helping her not to be afraid of 
thunder, and she remembered that and he helped her with that.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning 
alert



I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, 
and all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside 
somewhere and it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant 
his feet and refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back 
home as fast as he could, but not go any further the other direction.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning 
alert


My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, 
then in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a 
black lab/golden retriever mix.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
T

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Barbara Stahl
By the way the sweater thing does not always work I bought a thunder shirt for 
my lab Who is terrified of thunderstorms and I put it on several hours before 
hand when I knew storms were coming and when the storms came she was just as 
terrified as she was without the shirt

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> Which is why I would like to be alerted when the lightning is a few miles 
> away and I can get her sweater before she becomes stiff and unmovable.
> At 02:10 PM 6/21/2020, you wrote:
>> Maybe folks should call their dog guide schools and inquire.
>> Those schools who have follow-up training support maybe could come and work 
>> with your dog.
>> 
>> That, or check with the Canada school that Sieghard attended.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,† and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>> Edward Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
>> 
>> My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, 
>> then in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
>> Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
>> My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a 
>> black lab/golden retriever mix.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
>> 
>> I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder 
>> storms.
>> Which school did yours come from?
>> Maybe they do a better job than some.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,† and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>> Edward Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
>> 
>> I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have 
>> had 3 dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, 
>> fireworks or gunshots.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
>> 
>> The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd 
>> seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.
>> 
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>> >
>> > O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
>> > the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
>> > dogs and not for others as much.
>> > -Steve
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> > Jennie Facer
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
>> > Lightning alert
>> >
>> > I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I 
>> > will go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying 
>> > to start a flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all 
>> > up.
>> >
>> > Jenn
>> >
>> > Jenn and Kumi
>> >
>> >> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> >> wrote:
>> >>

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Barbara Stahl
> 
You could try the whio weather app, it has a setting for alerting you about 
lightening. Its always going off and telling me lightening detected 4.9 miles 
and then so on from my location. 
You just activate this feature in the apps setting.   It is free. and can be 
found easily in the app store. 

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RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Ann Byrne
Which is why I would like to be alerted when the 
lightning is a few miles away and I can get her 
sweater before she becomes stiff and unmovable.

At 02:10 PM 6/21/2020, you wrote:

Maybe folks should call their dog guide schools and inquire.
Those schools who have follow-up training 
support maybe could come and work with your dog.


That, or check with the Canada school that Sieghard attended.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge 
over which he must pass himself,† and we 
forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable 
that while I have regretted not granting grace 
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was 
a long time ago oin 1994, then in 2005 I got my 
second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in 
British Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow 
labs and my second one was a black lab/golden retriever mix.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs 
were terrified of thunder storms.

Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge 
over which he must pass himself,† and we 
forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable 
that while I have regretted not granting grace 
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools 
tested dogs for this, I have had 3 dogs and none 
of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or gunshots.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate 
vastly improved my GSd seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.


Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt 
with my first Seeing Eye dog all the 
time.  They have been around for almost 15 
years.  They work for some dogs and not for others as much.

> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but 
thanks so much to Richard. I will go way beyond 
to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t 
trying to start a flame fight or anuything like 
that. Thanks for clearing it all up.

>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't 
wait until the storm is fully underway to find 
your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear thunder.

>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If 
you are upset, your dog will know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications 
that something is wrong. Follow the same 
routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it 
that something is wronng. Help your dog by 
being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.

>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" 
for the 

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Don Moore
The one dog I had that really hated lightning was from The Seeing Eye.  The 
field rep came out and was going to get me a thunder shirt, but the dog gave up 
working before I would have received the shirt.  Florida is really no place 
with a fear of storms.  About a half hour before we'd hear the thunder, the dog 
would cower in his kennel and we knew that something was going to be happening 
soon.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Richard Turner
Maybe folks should call their dog guide schools and inquire.
Those schools who have follow-up training support maybe could come and work 
with your dog.

That, or check with the Canada school that Sieghard attended.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> o

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Sherry Spencer
How do you come a dog doing a thunderstorm

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder 
> storms.
> Which school did yours come from?
> Maybe they do a better job than some.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 
> 3 dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks 
> or gunshots.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd 
> seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.
> 
> Caitlyn
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>> 
>> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
>> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
>> dogs and not for others as much.
>> -Steve
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
>> Lightning alert
>> 
>> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
>> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start 
>> a flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>> 
>>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>>> and improve its response to the
>>> 
>>> Part 1
>>> Calming Your Dog
>>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>>> thunder. 
>>> 
>>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. 
>>> Follow the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a 
>>> calm, reassuring tone.
>>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help 
>>> your dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>> 
>>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>>> owner.
>>> Here are a few options:
>>> • Under a table or bed
>>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or
>>> windowless bathroom
>>> 
>>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>>> acupressure points throughout the body a

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Richard Turner
I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
>> help him/

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: 
> Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, 
>> and improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
>> directions for safety information.
>> 
>> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
>> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
>> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. 
>> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
>> 
>> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from 
>> windows, or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an 
>> additional source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some 
>> scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors.
>> 
>

RE: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-21 Thread Richard Turner
Could one of you post a link to which Weather Radio app you are using?
There are several.
Thanks,
Richard



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning Alert?


Hi,

Yes lately when you go into the app it acts as though something is refreshing 
very frequently so VoiceOver has some difficulty reading weather information. I 
did submit feedback from within the app to alert them to this issue. Please 
join me in doing so perhaps we can motivate them to fix this. Still even if one 
doesn't go into the app the alerts which appear in notification center do read 
fine from within that screen.

Take good care.

Robin
On 6/21/2020 2:04 AM, Wren Langley wrote:

Hi Robin and all,



I love weather radio, and I find it very accurate for weather and lightning 
alerts. Especially for lightning alerts. However, it doesn’t seem to work 
correctly with voiceover anymore. Have you noticed the same problem?



God bless,

Wren Langley



Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Robin Frost 
<mailto:robin...@outlook.com> wrote:



Hi,



I use Weather Radio or the Weather channel for lightning alerts.



The apps for my local Fox and CBS affiliate also give lightning alerts too so 
if you have those for stations nearby that's another alternative too. But 
typically I find the most accurate are The Weather c Channel and Weather Radio.



Take good care.



Robin



On 6/20/2020 12:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:

One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our dog is 
terrified of thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on her sweater which 
seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't alert any more.  
Is there an app that alerts for lightning?



Thx

Ann and old retired anxious dog





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Re: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-21 Thread Robin Frost

  
Hi,
Yes lately when you go into the app
it acts as though something is refreshing very frequently so
VoiceOver has some difficulty reading weather information. I did
submit feedback from within the app to alert them to this issue.
Please join me in doing so perhaps we can motivate them to fix
this. Still even if one doesn't go into the app the alerts which
appear in notification center do read fine from within that
screen.
Take good care.
Robin

On 6/21/2020 2:04 AM, Wren Langley
  wrote:


  Hi Robin and all,

I love weather radio, and I find it very accurate for weather and lightning alerts. Especially for lightning alerts. However, it doesn’t seem to work correctly with voiceover anymore. Have you noticed the same problem?

God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone


  
On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,

I use Weather Radio or the Weather channel for lightning alerts.

The apps for my local Fox and CBS affiliate also give lightning alerts too so if you have those for stations nearby that's another alternative too. But typically I find the most accurate are The Weather c Channel and Weather Radio.

Take good care.

Robin



  On 6/20/2020 12:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our dog is terrified of thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on her sweater which seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't alert any more.  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?

Thx
Ann and old retired anxious dog




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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Mervin Keck
Those are the two I use in Florida as well.
Merv


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert


Hi,

These apps usually alert for lightning detected on radar within 5 to 3 miles 
thus it might not be overhead but people can know when it might be approaching. 
I for one as a blind person find this information invaluable. As often where I 
live we can have heat lightning I.E. lightning which occurs without any 
accompanying thunder. thus having no light perception I appreciate knowing when 
lightning has been detected nearby.

I find that Weather Radio and The Weather Channel apps are the most accurate 
when it comes to such alerts in my area of the Eastern United States.

I hope that helps.

Take good care and be safe one and all.

Robin


On 6/21/2020 5:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,

 I don't see the point?



 If it's struck then it's not an issue

And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,

 Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as 
neither yu or your phone will be working.

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Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Lightning alert



Hi,



I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.



Jenn



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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Robin Frost

  
Hi,
These apps usually alert for
lightning detected on radar within 5 to 3 miles thus it might
not be overhead but people can know when it might be
approaching. I for one as a blind person find this information
invaluable. As often where I live we can have heat lightning
I.E. lightning which occurs without any accompanying thunder.
thus having no light perception I appreciate knowing when
lightning has been detected nearby.
I find that Weather Radio and The
Weather Channel apps are the most accurate when it comes to such
alerts in my area of the Eastern United States.
I hope that helps.
Take good care and be safe one and
all.
Robin


On 6/21/2020 5:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty
  wrote:


  If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
 I don't see the point?

 If it's struck then it's not an issue 
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
 Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will be working.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi



  




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Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Caitlyn Furness
The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
> 
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>> 
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. 
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, and 
>> improve its response to the
>> 
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder. 
>> 
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone. 
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
>> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>> 
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
>> owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
>> windowless bathroom
>> 
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
>> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
>> injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
>> associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
>> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
>> directions for safety information.
>> 
>> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
>> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
>> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. 
>> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
>> 
>> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from 
>> windows, or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an 
>> additional source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some 
>> scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors.
>> 
>> Play games.
>> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could play 
>> fetch or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that will 
>> turn your dog's attention away from the storm.
>> 
>> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to 
>> treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs.

RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Steve Sweeney
O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all the 
time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some dogs and 
not for others as much.
-Steve


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will go 
way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog 
> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
> 
> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static 
> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and 
> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. 
> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, and 
> improve its response to the
> 
> Part 1
> Calming Your Dog
> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
> thunder. 
> 
> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
> know, and this will only make matters worse.
> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
> reassuring tone. 
> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help your 
> dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
> 
> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, 
> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its 
> owner.
> Here are a few options:
> • Under a table or bed
> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or 
> windowless bathroom
> 
> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog 
> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added 
> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, 
> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or 
> Anxiety Wrap.  The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make 
> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the 
> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid 
> injuring your dog.
> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points 
> associated with stress relief.
> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog 
> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The 
> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always 
> supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and 
> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product 
> directions for safety information.
> 
> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise (washing 
> machine) can help drown out the thunder.
> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. 
> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
> 
> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from windows, 
> or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an additional 
> source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some scared dogs 
> may try to run away or harm visitors.
> 
> Play games.
> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could play 
> fetch or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that will 
> turn your dog's attention away from the storm.
> 
> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to 
> treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some 
> essential oils that work for humans may cause discomfort or injury in 
> animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required as well. 
> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are very 
> concentrated and can be harmful to your skin as well as your dog's. They can 
> also damage furniture.
> • Lavender is one popular option that seems to help dogs, when used in the 
> correct dose.
> • Another option is petting your dog with a dryer sheet- it reduces static.
> 
> Talk to your vet about medication. If these methods are

Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jennie Facer
xhibits any behavioral changes.
> • Never give a dog medication without consulting a veterinarian first.
> 
> Part 2
> Preventing Your Dog's Fear
> Desensitize your dog.
> To teach your dog that storms are nothing to fear, play a recording of a 
> thunderstorm on very low volume for several hours, once a week. Each week, if
> the dog shows no signs of agitation, turn up the volume slightly. It can take 
> a long time for your dog to adapt, but eventually your dog may learn not
> to fear thunder. 
> • If this agitates your dog too much, start with 5–10 minute daily sessions 
> instead. 
> 
> Expert Trick: While you play thunder sounds for your dog, give them a bone to 
> chew on or toy to play with. Furthermore, you can give your dog treats and
> give commands to keep their focus on you and make the experience a happy 
> occasion. This will help make thunderstorms seem like a normal experience and
> keep them from getting scared during a real one.
> 
> Encourage calm behavior.
> Give your dog a treat or a toy when it shows calm behavior during a storm, or 
> when it obeys a command despite its fear. Train it to respond to a "relax,"
> "calm," or "settle" command. 
> • Training your dog with an indoor leash is also highly effective. For 
> example, treat your house like an indoor obstacle course and lead your dog 
> around
> asking him/her to perform certain commands. If at any time this appears to be 
> causing more stress, stop, and work on calming your dog.
> 
> Anticipate your dog's fear. To curb stress and anxiety, engage with your dog 
> before the storm hits. Prepare indoor activities, and make sure your dog's
> safe place is set up.
> 
> • Do not punish a dog exhibiting fear or anxiety during a storm. This is not 
> bad behavior – your dog has a genuine phobia. 
> • Be patient and kind. It may take time for your dog to improve. 
> • If you know a thunderstorm is coming, let your dog outside to go to the 
> bathroom. Once the storm starts the dog is unlikely to go outside to relieve
> itself.
> 
> 
> From: https://www.wikihow.com/Calm-a-Dog-During-Thunderstorms
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 6:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs 
> and they say they help.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
>> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
>> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Simon,
>>> 
>>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I don't 
>>>> see the point?
>>>> 
>>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about it 
>>>> striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it will 
>>>> be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will be 
>>>> working.
>>>> -Orig

RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Richard Turner
Had you read the beginning of the thread, the person wanted an app for their 
iPhone to warn about thunder storms/lightning.
The rest is explanations of questions people had who had never heard of 
garments to keep dogs calm.
Perfectly appropriate in my opinion.
 


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
richr...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

I'd love to know what this has to do with an iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

I believe they're called Thunder shirts, and I know of at least one guide dog 
school that recommends them when dogs get upset over lightning and thunder.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs and 
they say they help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I don't 
>>> see the point?
>>> 
>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about it 
>>> striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it will 
>>> be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will be 
>>> working.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread richring
I'd love to know what this has to do with an iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

I believe they're called Thunder shirts, and I know of at least one guide dog 
school that recommends them when dogs get upset over lightning and thunder.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs and 
they say they help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I don't 
>>> see the point?
>>> 
>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about it 
>>> striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it will 
>>> be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will be 
>>> working.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Don Moore
I believe they're called Thunder shirts, and I know of at least one guide dog 
school that recommends them when dogs get upset over lightning and thunder.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs and 
they say they help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
>>> I don't see the point?
>>> 
>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue
>>> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
>>> Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone 
>>> as neither yu or your phone will be working.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
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How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Richard Turner
ir focus on you and make the experience a happy 
occasion. This will help make thunderstorms seem like a normal experience and
keep them from getting scared during a real one.

Encourage calm behavior.
Give your dog a treat or a toy when it shows calm behavior during a storm, or 
when it obeys a command despite its fear. Train it to respond to a "relax,"
"calm," or "settle" command. 
• Training your dog with an indoor leash is also highly effective. For example, 
treat your house like an indoor obstacle course and lead your dog around
asking him/her to perform certain commands. If at any time this appears to be 
causing more stress, stop, and work on calming your dog.

Anticipate your dog's fear. To curb stress and anxiety, engage with your dog 
before the storm hits. Prepare indoor activities, and make sure your dog's
safe place is set up.

• Do not punish a dog exhibiting fear or anxiety during a storm. This is not 
bad behavior – your dog has a genuine phobia. 
• Be patient and kind. It may take time for your dog to improve. 
• If you know a thunderstorm is coming, let your dog outside to go to the 
bathroom. Once the storm starts the dog is unlikely to go outside to relieve
itself.


From: https://www.wikihow.com/Calm-a-Dog-During-Thunderstorms



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs and 
they say they help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>> 
>> -----Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I don't 
>>> see the point?
>>> 
>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about it 
>>> striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it will 
>>> be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone will be 
>>> working.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
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>>> 
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&

Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Shirley Baker
No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs and 
they say they help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
>>> I don't see the point?
>>> 
>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue
>>> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
>>> Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone 
>>> as neither yu or your phone will be working.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
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>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Janet Bell

are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?

-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
there is lightening about going to do for the dog?


-Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

Simon,

If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and 
it is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  
wrote:


If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
I don't see the point?

If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone 
as neither yu or your phone will be working.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me 
to when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Shirley Baker
Oh, okay. I get it. Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Shirley!!! The person who started this thread again if you 
> listened was that she didn’t know the reason but it made the dog feel better.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> 
>> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
>> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
>> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Simon,
>>> 
>>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
>>>> I don't see the point?
>>>> 
>>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue
>>>> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
>>>> Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone 
>>>> as neither yu or your phone will be working.
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Jennie Facer
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me 
>>>> to when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenn
>>>> 
>>>> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Janet Bell

thanks- I've never heard of that at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

they make these special teashirts for dogs to make them feel better when 
there is lightning and thunder. This is the first time I've heard about 
sweaters. Supposedly they do work.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
there is lightening about going to do for the dog?


-Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

Simon,

If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and 
it is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  
wrote:


If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
I don't see the point?

If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone 
as neither yu or your phone will be working.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me 
to when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jennie Facer
Thank you Shirley!!! The person who started this thread again if you listened 
was that she didn’t know the reason but it made the dog feel better.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
>>> I don't see the point?
>>> 
>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue
>>> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
>>> Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone 
>>> as neither yu or your phone will be working.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Shirley Baker
The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a certain 
kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. I've heard 
commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when there 
> is lightening about going to do for the dog?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> Simon,
> 
> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
>> I don't see the point?
>> 
>> If it's struck then it's not an issue
>> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
>> Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as 
>> neither yu or your phone will be working.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Shirley Baker
they make these special teashirts for dogs to make them feel better when there 
is lightning and thunder. This is the first time I've heard about sweaters. 
Supposedly they do work.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when there 
> is lightening about going to do for the dog?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> Simon,
> 
> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
>> I don't see the point?
>> 
>> If it's struck then it's not an issue
>> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
>> Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as 
>> neither yu or your phone will be working.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Janet Bell
forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when there 
is lightening about going to do for the dog?


-Original Message- 
From: Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

Simon,

If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
I don't see the point?

If it's struck then it's not an issue
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone 
as neither yu or your phone will be working.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me 
to when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.


Jenn

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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Jennie Facer
Simon,

If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it is 
thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
> I don't see the point?
> 
> If it's struck then it's not an issue 
> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
> Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as 
> neither yu or your phone will be working.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lightning alert
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-21 Thread Shirley Baker
I have one of the local TV apps here in Nashville that tells you when lightning 
is close by. Don't you have that where you live?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> But Weather Gods does not alert for lightning--just t-storms.
> At 12:16 PM 6/20/2020, you wrote:
>> Weather Gods has a severe weather alert option.
>> 
>> I just realized it was turned off.
>> We had a pretty good thunder storm a week or two ago.  I would have had some 
>> warning I think had I realized it was off.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,† and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>> Edward Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann 
>> Byrne
>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 9:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Lightning Alert?
>> 
>> One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our dog is 
>> terrified of thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on her sweater which 
>> seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't alert any 
>> more.  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?
>> 
>> Thx
>> Ann and old retired anxious dog
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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-21 Thread Simon A Fogarty
If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
 I don't see the point?

 If it's struck then it's not an issue 
And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
 Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone as 
neither yu or your phone will be working.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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RE: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-21 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Sorry but I can't see how an app that tells you what the weather will be 
Will also be able to tell you that lightening is going to strike!

 Surely listening when you are outside  for thunder is just as easy as waiting 
for yor phones weather app to tell you that hey there might be thunder / 
lightening but we can't be sure as we're a digital device and not a weather god.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightning Alert?

Hi,
Just saw it for $3.99 in the app store.  The settings do not say anything 
specifically about lightening, but I'm hoping it is covered in severe weather.
-Steve


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightning Alert?

That sounds right.  I think I paid $4.99 for it and have never regretted the 
purchase.
They keep VoiceOver users in mind when doing updates and if they mess something 
up, they fix it quickly.

  


Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning Alert?

Weather Gods cost about $5 or $6.  One time charge.

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Re: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-21 Thread Wren Langley
Hi Robin and all,

I love weather radio, and I find it very accurate for weather and lightning 
alerts. Especially for lightning alerts. However, it doesn’t seem to work 
correctly with voiceover anymore. Have you noticed the same problem?

God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use Weather Radio or the Weather channel for lightning alerts.
> 
> The apps for my local Fox and CBS affiliate also give lightning alerts too so 
> if you have those for stations nearby that's another alternative too. But 
> typically I find the most accurate are The Weather c Channel and Weather 
> Radio.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
>> On 6/20/2020 12:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our dog is 
>> terrified of thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on her sweater which 
>> seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't alert any 
>> more.  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?
>> 
>> Thx
>> Ann and old retired anxious dog
>> 
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Re: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,

I use Weather Radio or the Weather channel for lightning alerts.

The apps for my local Fox and CBS affiliate also give lightning alerts 
too so if you have those for stations nearby that's another alternative 
too. But typically I find the most accurate are The Weather c Channel 
and Weather Radio.


Take good care.

Robin

On 6/20/2020 12:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our 
dog is terrified of thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on her 
sweater which seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it 
doesn't alert any more.  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?


    Thx
Ann and old retired anxious dog



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RE: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Ann Byrne

But Weather Gods does not alert for lightning--just t-storms.
At 12:16 PM 6/20/2020, you wrote:

Weather Gods has a severe weather alert option.

I just realized it was turned off.
We had a pretty good thunder storm a week or two 
ago.  I would have had some warning I think had I realized it was off.





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over which he must pass himself,† and we 
forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
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to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Ann Byrne

Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning Alert?

One of the weather apps on my phone used to 
alert for lightning.  Our dog is terrified of 
thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on 
her sweater which seems to make a 
difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't 
alert any more.  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?


Thx
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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-20 Thread Dennis Long
Weather gods is still the best weather in my opinion.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 5:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightning alert

Do you have the Severe weather alert enabled?



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-20 Thread Jennie Facer
HI holly,

That is what i was saying is that weather gods did not give me a lightning 
alert. I will have to give this weather app from the weather channel a try to 
see if it notifies me of when lightning strikes near me. Caret weather is the 
only one that I have found to do this. Weather radio used to but I don’t think 
it does anymore. You had to buy something like an in-app purchase to get it to 
work. I just don’t think it offers that any longer.

Caret weather has different tiers that you can subscribe to, but tier 3 is the 
only one that does lightning alerts. I hope that this other weather app works.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Holly  wrote:
> 
> Jenny:
> 
> I have had Weather Gods for a couple of months, but have never had a 
> lightning alert, and we have had a few storms that would have qualified.
> 
> Also, in the settings, there are sounds for different weather events.  When 
> are these supposed to play?
> 
> I have sounds turned on, but only get the opening sound of the bell and 
> seagulls.  At least, it sounds like seagulls.  Hahahaha. 
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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-20 Thread Holly

Jenny:

I have had Weather Gods for a couple of months, but have never had a 
lightning alert, and we have had a few storms that would have qualified.


Also, in the settings, there are sounds for different weather events.  When 
are these supposed to play?


I have sounds turned on, but only get the opening sound of the bell and 
seagulls.  At least, it sounds like seagulls.  Hahahaha. 


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Re: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Michael Irons
Hello everyone, I just got the Weather app the one that is put out by the 
weather channel. It is accessible with voiceover. It is also free. He does have 
the alerts for lightning wind and other kinds of severe weather.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Just saw it for $3.99 in the app store.  The settings do not say anything 
> specifically about lightening, but I'm hoping it is covered in severe weather.
> -Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lightning Alert?
> 
> That sounds right.  I think I paid $4.99 for it and have never regretted the 
> purchase.
> They keep VoiceOver users in mind when doing updates and if they mess 
> something up, they fix it quickly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 11:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Weather Gods cost about $5 or $6.  One time charge.
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Re: Lightning alert

2020-06-20 Thread Jennie Facer
Yes.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> Do you have the Severe weather alert enabled?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
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> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 2:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lightning alert
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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RE: Lightning alert

2020-06-20 Thread Richard Turner
Do you have the Severe weather alert enabled?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning alert

Hi,

I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.

Jenn

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RE: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Steve Sweeney
Hi,
Just saw it for $3.99 in the app store.  The settings do not say anything 
specifically about lightening, but I'm hoping it is covered in severe weather.
-Steve


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That sounds right.  I think I paid $4.99 for it and have never regretted the 
purchase.
They keep VoiceOver users in mind when doing updates and if they mess something 
up, they fix it quickly.

  


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Weather Gods cost about $5 or $6.  One time charge.

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RE: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Richard Turner
That sounds right.  I think I paid $4.99 for it and have never regretted the 
purchase.
They keep VoiceOver users in mind when doing updates and if they mess something 
up, they fix it quickly.

  


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Weather Gods cost about $5 or $6.  One time charge.

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Re: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Holly

Weather Gods cost about $5 or $6.  One time charge.

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RE: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Richard Turner
You are talking about subscribing to Carat weather right.
I think Weather Gods is free or maybe a one time charge.  It has been a long 
time.
The Weather Channel is much more accessible than it used to be.
I checked it out after the recommendation.
It took a while to figure out how to set my city as a favorite so I could turn 
on the alerts.
Time will tell how good it is.



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Weather Gods is good, and so is Caret weather. You have to subscribe to tier 3 
though in order to get the lightning alerts. I think it was aroun $20 a year.

Jenn

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>  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?
> 
> Thx
> Ann and old retired anxious dog
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Re: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Jennie Facer
Weather Gods is good, and so is Caret weather. You have to subscribe to tier 3 
though in order to get the lightning alerts. I think it was aroun $20 a year.

Jenn

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> One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our dog is 
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> seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't alert any more. 
>  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?
> 
> Thx
> Ann and old retired anxious dog
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RE: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Richard Turner
Weather Gods has a severe weather alert option.

I just realized it was turned off.
We had a pretty good thunder storm a week or two ago.  I would have had some 
warning I think had I realized it was off.




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One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our dog is 
terrified of thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on her sweater which 
seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't alert any more.  
Is there an app that alerts for lightning?

Thx
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RE: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Richard Turner
Is it accessible with VoiceOver?
When I had tried in a year or two ago it was not.



Richard
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Hi,
Hope you are doing well.
The Weather app from the weather channel gives me alerts for lightning., 
pollen, rain, severe weather and winter storms and now gives me information and 
updates about the coronavirus. 


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Re: Lightning Alert?

2020-06-20 Thread Priscilla Garces (prisci)
Hi,
Hope you are doing well.
The Weather app from the weather channel gives me alerts for lightning., 
pollen, rain, severe weather and winter storms and now gives me information and 
updates about the coronavirus. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our dog is 
> terrified of thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on her sweater which 
> seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't alert any more. 
>  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?
> 
> Thx
> Ann and old retired anxious dog
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