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I won't be buying it only because, 1. I feel like the funds are going for an app I'll never use. It's not fair for us, as an IPhone community to pay for an Android based app. That's something you should be finding other ways to fund it, not by using your current Apple based app to do so, I think that's wrong. . 2. I think that paying for a product like yours should be accurate, and every time I've tried to take a picture of, for example, the thermostat to see exactly what the temp is set to, all it gives me is the temp inside the house, not the one that the thermostat is set to. Or when I take a picture of say, a bottle of creamer to see if it's the kind of creamer I have instead of the kind my sister drinks I couldn't get Tap Tap See to tell me that either and I did move the bottle around and around to find the label. No luck! Those are my thoughts on the matter. Jerry Mader From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Arnold, The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. Same goes for the 100 picture pack. Best Wishes, TapTapSee On Friday, November 8, 2013 4:21:39 PM UTC-8, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I have not been reading this thread, being that I had not accessed Tap Tap See in quite a while, although I very much like it and have kept it on my phone. After reading some in this thread, I accessed it earlier today, after reading about its becoming a subscription service, to find out how much it costs. There was nothing in it about needing to pay a fee to use it now. Please let me know the details about the subscription service and when it begins. Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Andrea Love andrea@gmail.com javascript: To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pe...@sympatico.ca javascript: To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: ] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month
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I just bought 2 months of the $9.99 tap tap see. I want to take pictures over the holidays. This is so much fun for me. Although, I lost my sight as a child I can still very much conceptualize. Therefore, for me it going to be fun. I just have to learn how to angle the iphone for pictures. I also, put on Talking Goggles and Camfind. I feel like a little kid in a candy store. I purchase my iphone 2 and a half weeks ago. I'm sure I shell drive my granddaughters crazy this weekend. Their going to think it's their Nanny whose the teenager. lol Val -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 11:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I'm actually not too interested in what others think about the price of different apps. When the Seeing Eye GPS app came out, I really wasn't too interested in all of the posts to the list saying they thought it was too expensive and they wouldn't be buying it. IMHO, that's a personal decision people have to make for themselves, and as with the Seeing Eye app or TapTap See, I'll be making the decision as to whether I think it's a service worth the price or not. Everyone is different, has different needs and expectations and is in different economic situations, so I'm not sure why people feel compelled to let everyone else know if something is too expensive for them or not, and I'm not sure why people care waht others are willing to spend on an app or service. That being said, I don't think someone who thinks a product is worth more than they're willing to spend is a free loader or is someone looking for a hand out. If I buy Window Eyes instead of JAWS because I think it's a better product for the money, does that make me a free loader? When I buy a Nisson instead of a Honda, and I looking for a handout? I don't recall any posts to this list saying TapTap See should be free and that the developers of TapTap See shouldn't charge for their app or their service. That would be asking for a freebie or a handout. Most people have been asking for a flat price or a cheaper option, and since I have no clue what it costs to have people identify the contents of a picture, I have no idea if this cost will be covered by this model or not. The developers of TapTap See have the right to set any price they want. Maybe they'll just cover their costs or maybe they'll have a huge markup. All I know is what I'm willing to pay for the service. The developers will make enough money to continue developing TatTap See and providing the service or they won't. There are blind people, just like their are sighted people, who have a sense of entitlement and want a handout. We should feel sorry for those people and help them. We shouldn't confuse someone who's just deciding if they can afford a particular service or app though with those people. On 11/08/2013 06:04 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: TapTapSee, I have a proposal for you. Deal to all the complains about how much you charge for either 8C per picture or less than 35C per day, what about this as a proposal? Charge by picture. $5 for one picture, or $50 for 100 pictures. These people, like the chinese said, know how to eat, but does not know the price of food, more so, the price of making the food. Let those whiners have real reason to whine about, or shud them up. Maybe better off, just shut off the service, cut the losts, and like those whiners said, let them find the alternative that they so looking for it. On 09/11/2013, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't agree. Sure, there are some blind people who want things for free, but that's true for sighted people as well. I'm sure I could check out Twitter and find sighted people who don't want to pay for something, but I wouldn't conclude from that that most sighted people want freebies. Don't assume that the vocal minority speaks for the silent majority. Furthermore, Ive seen very few messages on this topic where people were reluctant to pay anything at all. Most people seem to have a concern over the price or it's subscription nature. I know plenty of sighted people who refuse to or don't want to get into another monthly subscription for something. Nevertheless, some people are assuming blind people are asking for something for free and just adding to this noise that most blind people just want handouts, even though the actual messages to this list don't bear that out. I'd never take tweats out of context and then use that to paint some broad strokes about most blind people. That's prejudice and discrimination, and I've faced enough of that in my lifetime that I'm not going to turn around and do that to another blind person. On 11/08/2013 05:14 PM, Andrea Love wrote: Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check out twitter if you don't believe me. Andrea Love - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent
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I don't think the issue is payment. The issue is changing the rules in mid stream. ∫ people haven't beeen entirely truthful. Consider this, if they changed the rules namece -pletely out of' left field field, they most certainly do it again. I wouldn't gile ∫ people the sweet off my eyebrows. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s! On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Andrea Love andrea.love2...@gmail.com wrote: I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge, my first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get the idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was entitled to freebies! I am talking about a once free app going to subscription service, and stating I think it is overpriced. If you didn't get timed-out pictures, unrecognized images, and just plain wrong info, i.e. my black dog was called a black cat. sometimes when I scan cans I have to take more than one picture, so the 100 pics are impractical, and I don't think I use it enough for the monthly fee. We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120
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Hello Jerry, I'd like to address the two points that you've brought up. 1. I believe we've mentioned it earlier in this thread, or it may have been in another, that the Android version of TapTapSee is currently on hold. We began working on it a few months ago, but due to the current situation we've had to put it on hold. We do not have a timeline for its release, if it will be released at all. We are also looking for funding through other avenues, such as grants and other various institutions. 2. I understand your concern. We are always working on improving the quality of our identifications. Furthermore, the feedback we've received from the community has given us a lot of data that we can use to improve our identifications. Thank you for your feedback. We will continue to improve our service. Thank you, TapTapSee Team On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:27:35 PM UTC-8, Jerry MAder wrote: I won’t be buying it only because, 1. I feel like the funds are going for an app I’ll never use. It’s not fair for us, as an IPhone community to pay for an Android based app. That’s something you should be finding other ways to fund it, not by using your current Apple based app to do so, I think that’s wrong. . 2. I think that paying for a product like yours should be accurate, and every time I’ve tried to take a picture of, for example, the thermostat to see exactly what the temp is set to, all it gives me is the temp inside the house, not the one that the thermostat is set to. Or when I take a picture of say, a bottle of creamer to see if it’s the kind of creamer I have instead of the kind my sister drinks I couldn’t get Tap Tap See to tell me that either and I did move the bottle around and around to find the label. No luck! Those are my thoughts on the matter. Jerry Mader *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *TapTapSee *Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2013 7:37 PM *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: Tap TapSee Arnold, The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. Same goes for the 100 picture pack. Best Wishes, TapTapSee On Friday, November 8, 2013 4:21:39 PM UTC-8, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I have not been reading this thread, being that I had not accessed Tap Tap See in quite a while, although I very much like it and have kept it on my phone. After reading some in this thread, I accessed it earlier today, after reading about its becoming a subscription service, to find out how much it costs. There was nothing in it about needing to pay a fee to use it now. Please let me know the details about the subscription service and when it begins. Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Andrea Love andrea@gmail.com To: vip...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pe...@sympatico.ca To: vip...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money
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Hi Anthony, They did change the rules, but any company has the right to do so. I have a retail business and if I sell a pair of binoculars for $200 because when I bought it a few months before I paid $150 and that is sufficient margin for me but now suddenly the price of the same model went up to $170 because maybe of the exchange rate and a price increase by the manufacturer then of course I will have to raise my price not only y the $20 more that I pay but by about $30. A Customer might have seen the binocular for $200 and now, a week later, he comes in and it's $230 you could also say I am changing the rules mid stream. But the fact is that if my cost has gone up it is my right to do so. At the same time I have and will continue to drop prices on product where my cost goes down and I often ask customers who complain when something is more expensive whether they would want me to leave the price where it is if a product drops in price. Of course everybody thinks it is of course fair to drop the price but most have a big problem if the price goes up. I think it would have been better if Tap Tap See had charged from day 1, then a price increase would just be that, now going from free to paid it seems for a few that is considered totally unfair. Fortunately it is only a few and I am happy for once to see that themajority of people do see the value of the app and are willing to pay for it. Could Tap Tap See have announced this? Yes, they could have started a months or 2 ago and put out an announcement on their website that due to the cost of image recognition they could no longer provide the service for free. Some would have seen that and for some it would have still come out of left field as you called it. There is nothing unethical or sneaky about what they did and once the discussion started Tap Tap See was nothing but involved and upfront about explaining what is going on. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I don't think the issue is payment. The issue is changing the rules in mid stream. ∫ people haven't beeen entirely truthful. Consider this, if they changed the rules namece -pletely out of' left field field, they most certainly do it again. I wouldn't gile ∫ people the sweet off my eyebrows. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s! On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Andrea Love andrea.love2...@gmail.com wrote: I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple
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I thank tap tap see to have given me the oppertunity to see what a wonderful app they have made, and let me use it for the last year or so. I will support them, at the 100 picture package rate. If this app started off as a paid app, I may not have bought in. But, I'm glad I did. A dialog box can be helpful, it would certainly take up less data than a voice clip The sighted people should receive pay for helping us identify things for us. Those that really like this app will gripe, but continue to use it, because it is so helpful. Thom -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Anthony, They did change the rules, but any company has the right to do so. I have a retail business and if I sell a pair of binoculars for $200 because when I bought it a few months before I paid $150 and that is sufficient margin for me but now suddenly the price of the same model went up to $170 because maybe of the exchange rate and a price increase by the manufacturer then of course I will have to raise my price not only y the $20 more that I pay but by about $30. A Customer might have seen the binocular for $200 and now, a week later, he comes in and it's $230 you could also say I am changing the rules mid stream. But the fact is that if my cost has gone up it is my right to do so. At the same time I have and will continue to drop prices on product where my cost goes down and I often ask customers who complain when something is more expensive whether they would want me to leave the price where it is if a product drops in price. Of course everybody thinks it is of course fair to drop the price but most have a big problem if the price goes up. I think it would have been better if Tap Tap See had charged from day 1, then a price increase would just be that, now going from free to paid it seems for a few that is considered totally unfair. Fortunately it is only a few and I am happy for once to see that themajority of people do see the value of the app and are willing to pay for it. Could Tap Tap See have announced this? Yes, they could have started a months or 2 ago and put out an announcement on their website that due to the cost of image recognition they could no longer provide the service for free. Some would have seen that and for some it would have still come out of left field as you called it. There is nothing unethical or sneaky about what they did and once the discussion started Tap Tap See was nothing but involved and upfront about explaining what is going on. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I don't think the issue is payment. The issue is changing the rules in mid stream. ∫ people haven't beeen entirely truthful. Consider this, if they changed the rules namece -pletely out of' left field field, they most certainly do it again. I wouldn't gile ∫ people the sweet off my eyebrows. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s! On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Andrea Love andrea.love2...@gmail.com wrote: I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money
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I agree with Sieghard here. I'd also like to toss out the different options. Once it became clear that their business model wasn't going to work, the Tap Tap See developers could have just pulled the app altogether. This wouldn't benefit anyone. they also could have started charging from day one but then no one would have gotten to use Tap Tap See free for the past year. I'm afraid this falls under the category of you better be careful what you ask for because you just may get it, at least that's my opinion. On 11/15/2013 12:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Anthony, They did change the rules, but any company has the right to do so. I have a retail business and if I sell a pair of binoculars for $200 because when I bought it a few months before I paid $150 and that is sufficient margin for me but now suddenly the price of the same model went up to $170 because maybe of the exchange rate and a price increase by the manufacturer then of course I will have to raise my price not only y the $20 more that I pay but by about $30. A Customer might have seen the binocular for $200 and now, a week later, he comes in and it's $230 you could also say I am changing the rules mid stream. But the fact is that if my cost has gone up it is my right to do so. At the same time I have and will continue to drop prices on product where my cost goes down and I often ask customers who complain when something is more expensive whether they would want me to leave the price where it is if a product drops in price. Of course everybody thinks it is of course fair to drop the price but most have a big problem if the price goes up. I think it would have been better if Tap Tap See had charged from day 1, then a price increase would just be that, now going from free to paid it seems for a few that is considered totally unfair. Fortunately it is only a few and I am happy for once to see that themajority of people do see the value of the app and are willing to pay for it. Could Tap Tap See have announced this? Yes, they could have started a months or 2 ago and put out an announcement on their website that due to the cost of image recognition they could no longer provide the service for free. Some would have seen that and for some it would have still come out of left field as you called it. There is nothing unethical or sneaky about what they did and once the discussion started Tap Tap See was nothing but involved and upfront about explaining what is going on. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I don't think the issue is payment. The issue is changing the rules in mid stream. ∫ people haven't beeen entirely truthful. Consider this, if they changed the rules namece -pletely out of' left field field, they most certainly do it again. I wouldn't gile ∫ people the sweet off my eyebrows. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s! On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Andrea Love andrea.love2...@gmail.com wrote: I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue
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I don't get the first point. I would imagine most companies don't segregate their revenue so that the revenue from a given product only goes against the maintenance, support and development of that product. I assume any revenue a company brings in could go against any of their product lines or their business costs. For example, when I bought an iPhone, I didn't look across all of Apple's products and say to myself, I don't think I'm ever going to buy an Apple TV, and I don't want any money I'm using to buy this iPhone to be used for Apple TV development, so I'll pass on buying an iPhone. Instead, I look at the product or service and the price and decide if it's worth my money or not. I admire the transparency in this case, but most companies aren't that transparent when it comes to their revenue and product lines. On 11/09/2013 02:27 PM, Jerry MAder wrote: I won't be buying it only because, 1. I feel like the funds are going for an app I'll never use. It's not fair for us, as an IPhone community to pay for an Android based app. That's something you should be finding other ways to fund it, not by using your current Apple based app to do so, I think that's wrong. . 2. I think that paying for a product like yours should be accurate, and every time I've tried to take a picture of, for example, the thermostat to see exactly what the temp is set to, all it gives me is the temp inside the house, not the one that the thermostat is set to. Or when I take a picture of say, a bottle of creamer to see if it's the kind of creamer I have instead of the kind my sister drinks I couldn't get Tap Tap See to tell me that either and I did move the bottle around and around to find the label. No luck! Those are my thoughts on the matter. Jerry Mader *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *TapTapSee *Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2013 7:37 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Tap TapSee Arnold, The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. Same goes for the 100 picture pack. Best Wishes, TapTapSee On Friday, November 8, 2013 4:21:39 PM UTC-8, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I have not been reading this thread, being that I had not accessed Tap Tap See in quite a while, although I very much like it and have kept it on my phone. After reading some in this thread, I accessed it earlier today, after reading about its becoming a subscription service, to find out how much it costs. There was nothing in it about needing to pay a fee to use it now. Please let me know the details about the subscription service and when it begins. Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Andrea Love andrea@gmail.com To: vip...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pe...@sympatico.ca To: vip...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail
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Hi, I opened the app yesterday and I didn't see anything about having to pay for the app so I'm a little confused. Jen -Original Message- From: Lea Langley Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. There are many blind people out there who think that they should have everything for free, but I am not one of them. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the second lots of people, well, move on to some other free apps like VizWiz, or source it with other app. I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things are. As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to close not too far, and correct brightness etc. For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee? Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R Rated photo just to test it out. One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C per day to support the app? again, because, blind user are entitle to freebies kind of attitude? Do the math yourself. $10 per month is less than 35C per day for unlimited service. or $8 per 100 image which is 8C per image. The way i see it is that, TapTapSee is waiting for too long to charge for the app. Like some said earlier, if TapTapSee charges by the word 'go, i wonder, if people will still whining about it as if there is no tomorrow. On 08/11/2013, rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:18:31 AM UTC-8, tmeade wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't
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There will be an update to the app with next few days. When this update happens, you will get a message saying that the app is no longer free. Then you can choose to either by the 100 pack of pictures or buy a one-month subscription of unlimited pictures. Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1 Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi, I opened the app yesterday and I didn't see anything about having to pay for the app so I'm a little confused. Jen -Original Message- From: Lea Langley Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. There are many blind people out there who think that they should have everything for free, but I am not one of them. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the second lots of people, well, move on to some other free apps like VizWiz, or source it with other app. I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things are. As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to close not too far, and correct brightness etc. For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee? Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R Rated photo just to test it out. One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C per day to support the app? again, because, blind user are entitle to freebies kind of attitude? Do the math yourself. $10 per month is less than 35C per day for unlimited service. or $8 per 100 image which is 8C per image. The way i see it is that, TapTapSee is waiting for too long to charge for the app. Like some said earlier, if TapTapSee charges by the word 'go, i wonder, if people will still whining about it as if there is no tomorrow. On 08/11/2013, rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted
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Hello Liz, The update that will be released does not have anything to do with the activation of the subscription. The subscription service has already started. It's just being introduced over a period of time. The update that you've mentioned will include a correction to TapTapSee that will cause it to not count failed to send or timed out images as your used up credits. Also, the update will introduce a counter in the About section that will track the number of images left in your subscription. Again, the update is not the trigger to a subscription. Best Wishes, TapTapSee On Saturday, November 9, 2013 1:13:12 AM UTC-8, Elizabeth Ulrich wrote: There will be an update to the app with next few days. When this update happens, you will get a message saying that the app is no longer free. Then you can choose to either by the 100 pack of pictures or buy a one-month subscription of unlimited pictures. Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1 Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jen Colley jen.c...@shaw.ca javascript: wrote: Hi, I opened the app yesterday and I didn't see anything about having to pay for the app so I'm a little confused. Jen -Original Message- From: Lea Langley Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:14 AM To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. There are many blind people out there who think that they should have everything for free, but I am not one of them. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the second lots of people, well, move on to some other free apps like VizWiz, or source it with other app. I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things are. As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to close not too far, and correct brightness etc. For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee? Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R Rated photo just to test it out. One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C per day to support the app? again, because, blind user are entitle to freebies kind of attitude? Do the math yourself. $10 per month is less than 35C per day for unlimited service. or $8 per 100 image which is 8C per image. The way i see it is that, TapTapSee is waiting for too long to charge for the app. Like some said earlier, if TapTapSee charges by the word 'go, i wonder, if people will still whining about it as if there is no tomorrow. On 08/11/2013, rubyalphonse rubyal...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice
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IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge, my first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get the idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was “entitled to freebies! I am talking about a once free app going to subscription service, and stating I think it is overpriced. If you didn’t get timed-out pictures, unrecognized images, and just plain wrong info, i.e. my black dog was called a black cat. sometimes when I scan cans I have to take more than one picture, so the 100 pics are impractical, and I don’t think I use it enough for the monthly fee. We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I’m not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I’ll go to other apps. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers already said that there could be a fee one day. However, I'd also rather pay a high price and be able to use the app for a lifetime instead of the subscription model. A problem I see are these pictures that are useless for object recognition; pictures that are blurry, too dark or are recorded from a too near or too far distance or in a wrong rotation. Most blind folks don't know too much about taking really good, clear, centered photos, so I guess that, depending on the circumstances, a significant amount of pictures will be charged but don't return a real result. Maybe it would be possible to sell a standard edition of the app for a fairly high price and charge extra money as in app purchases as soon as new features are being added. Maybe a version with adds would be fine as well, and people who don't like to see the adds would have to pay the full price. Regards, Alexandra - Original Message - From: rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi Al, what if we all rode to the developer and made the suggestion that we purchased the app for one price. Even if it's a higher price it would be worth it rather than having to purchase an amount for every so many pictures. We have to know whether the pictures are blurry dark or otherwise so that we know how to place our phone and what to do to improve the quality of our pictures since we can't see. This information is useful, but it would count against how many pictures we can have. So I think that for what we get with this app it would be worth purchasing it for a higher price. God bless, Wren Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan keinohrhasen...@googlemail.com wrote: I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers already said that there could be a fee one day. However, I'd also rather pay a high price and be able to use the app for a lifetime instead of the subscription model. A problem I see are these pictures that are useless for object recognition; pictures that are blurry, too dark or are recorded from a too near or too far distance or in a wrong rotation. Most blind folks don't know too much about taking really good, clear, centered photos, so I guess that, depending on the circumstances, a significant amount of pictures will be charged but don't return a real result. Maybe it would be possible to sell a standard edition of the app for a fairly high price and charge extra money as in app purchases as soon as new features are being added. Maybe a version with adds would be fine as well, and people who don't like to see the adds would have to pay the full price. Regards, Alexandra - Original Message - From: rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from
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Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. There are many blind people out there who think that they should have everything for free, but I am not one of them. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the second lots of people, well, move on to some other free apps like VizWiz, or source it with other app. I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things are. As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to close not too far, and correct brightness etc. For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee? Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R Rated photo just to test it out. One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C per day to support the app? again, because, blind user are entitle to freebies kind of attitude? Do the math yourself. $10 per month is less than 35C per day for unlimited service. or $8 per 100 image which is 8C per image. The way i see it is that, TapTapSee is waiting for too long to charge for the app. Like some said earlier, if TapTapSee charges by the word 'go, i wonder, if people will still whining about it as if there is no tomorrow. On 08/11/2013, rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:18:31 AM UTC-8, tmeade wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed
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Some people don’t mind going for the 8 dollars for 100 pictures ike those that don’t use it that often. I’m one of those that doesn’t use it that often so 30 or whatever I wouldn’t pay just like I’m choosing not to go the month route because it’s just not worth me paying monthly for. Now if I used it more often sure. I think them having different rate plans is better than one price you have no choice but to choose. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. There are many blind people out there who think that they should have everything for free, but I am not one of them. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the second lots of people, well, move on to some other free apps like VizWiz, or source it with other app. I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things are. As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to close not too far, and correct brightness etc. For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee? Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R Rated photo just to test it out. One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C per day to support the app? again, because, blind user are entitle to freebies kind of attitude? Do the math yourself. $10 per month is less than 35C per day for unlimited service. or $8 per 100 image which is 8C per image. The way i see it is that, TapTapSee is waiting for too long to charge for the app. Like some said earlier, if TapTapSee charges by the word 'go, i wonder, if people will still whining about it as if there is no tomorrow. On 08/11/2013, rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid
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The problem with a one-time fee, as others have pointed out, is that the developers have ongoing costs which they have to pay every month. Paying a single fee upfront will not let them support those costs each month, since after the initial flood of incoming money from the initial purchases, they will not have anything more. Paying per picture, or per month, is a much better way of doing things since you are essentially paying the costs associated with every picture. While a one-time fee would be better for consumers, in the long run it would cause the developers to lose money, and probably have to shut the service down. The monthly subscription allows them to keep the doors open, so to speak, by ensuring that every pictures paid for. On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Al, what if we all rode to the developer and made the suggestion that we purchased the app for one price. Even if it's a higher price it would be worth it rather than having to purchase an amount for every so many pictures. We have to know whether the pictures are blurry dark or otherwise so that we know how to place our phone and what to do to improve the quality of our pictures since we can't see. This information is useful, but it would count against how many pictures we can have. So I think that for what we get with this app it would be worth purchasing it for a higher price. God bless, Wren Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan keinohrhasen...@googlemail.com wrote: I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers already said that there could be a fee one day. However, I'd also rather pay a high price and be able to use the app for a lifetime instead of the subscription model. A problem I see are these pictures that are useless for object recognition; pictures that are blurry, too dark or are recorded from a too near or too far distance or in a wrong rotation. Most blind folks don't know too much about taking really good, clear, centered photos, so I guess that, depending on the circumstances, a significant amount of pictures will be charged but don't return a real result. Maybe it would be possible to sell a standard edition of the app for a fairly high price and charge extra money as in app purchases as soon as new features are being added. Maybe a version with adds would be fine as well, and people who don't like to see the adds would have to pay the full price. Regards, Alexandra - Original Message - From: rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from
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I'm definitely going to pay the 100 picgture package at some point, I totally get why now. i didn't yesterday but I was also pretty busy with a lot of different things too but I totally get it now. Everybody with your hand out thinking you oughtta get it for free, need to find something free then. Youg et what you pay for and Tap Tap See is totally worth what little they're asking. Thanks and I'm off my soapbox now. Sorry, Lol. Tae care guys. On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Lea Langley wrote: Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. There are many blind people out there who think that they should have everything for free, but I am not one of them. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the second lots of people, well, move on to some other free apps like VizWiz, or source it with other app. I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things are. As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to close not too far, and correct brightness etc. For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee? Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R Rated photo just to test it out. One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C per day to support the app? again, because, blind user are entitle to freebies kind of attitude? Do the math yourself. $10 per month is less than 35C per day for unlimited service. or $8 per 100 image which is 8C per image. The way i see it is that, TapTapSee is waiting for too long to charge for the app. Like some said earlier, if TapTapSee charges by the word 'go, i wonder, if people will still whining about it as if there is no tomorrow. On 08/11/2013, rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down
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Hello TapTapSee Team, I don't want anything free, I would love to pay One time payment, than paying packages Please I kindly request you to help us, since this App is very useful and I am much obliged to you for developing this. Regards Ruby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers already said that there could be a fee one day. However, I'd also rather pay a high price and be able to use the app for a lifetime instead of the subscription model. A problem I see are these pictures that are useless for object recognition; pictures that are blurry, too dark or are recorded from a too near or too far distance or in a wrong rotation. Most blind folks don't know too much about taking really good, clear, centered photos, so I guess that, depending on the circumstances, a significant amount of pictures will be charged but don't return a real result. Maybe it would be possible to sell a standard edition of the app for a fairly high price and charge extra money as in app purchases as soon as new features are being added. Maybe a version with adds would be fine as well, and people who don't like to see the adds would have to pay the full price. Regards, Alexandra - Original Message - From: rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http
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Hi all, In my camera roll, I am told if the photo is clear or bright or whatever. I'm wondering if the developpers of TapTapSee could make it possible for us to get such a review before we submit it, thus reducing the possibility of wasting portions of our package. Just an idea for consideration. I would appreciate your comments. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lea Langley Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hi Al, what if we all rode to the developer and made the suggestion that we purchased the app for one price. Even if it's a higher price it would be worth it rather than having to purchase an amount for every so many pictures. We have to know whether the pictures are blurry dark or otherwise so that we know how to place our phone and what to do to improve the quality of our pictures since we can't see. This information is useful, but it would count against how many pictures we can have. So I think that for what we get with this app it would be worth purchasing it for a higher price. God bless, Wren Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan keinohrhasen...@googlemail.com wrote: I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers already said that there could be a fee one day. However, I'd also rather pay a high price and be able to use the app for a lifetime instead of the subscription model. A problem I see are these pictures that are useless for object recognition; pictures that are blurry, too dark or are recorded from a too near or too far distance or in a wrong rotation. Most blind folks don't know too much about taking really good, clear, centered photos, so I guess that, depending on the circumstances, a significant amount of pictures will be charged but don't return a real result. Maybe it would be possible to sell a standard edition of the app for a fairly high price and charge extra money as in app purchases as soon as new features are being added. Maybe a version with adds would be fine as well, and people who don't like to see the adds would have to pay the full price. Regards, Alexandra - Original Message - From: rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone
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Betty, It's unfortunate to see you leave our service, but we understand. As mentioned before, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We tried to keep TapTapSee free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:19:12 PM UTC-8, Betty Emmons wrote: I plan to use something else. I can see as a blind person we could go through a lot of pictures. also that would be $108 if my math is correct. Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Blind Treasures blindtr...@comcast.net javascript: To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:18 AM Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing vip...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphon...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Ron, Unfortunately, that's not possible, because the image still needs to be sent to our service for an identification before even something like that is presented. Best Wishes, On Friday, November 8, 2013 8:45:16 AM UTC-8, ron.pelletier wrote: Hi all, In my camera roll, I am told if the photo is clear or bright or whatever. I'm wondering if the developpers of TapTapSee could make it possible for us to get such a review before we submit it, thus reducing the possibility of wasting portions of our package. Just an idea for consideration. I would appreciate your comments. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Lea Langley Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:02 AM To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Cc: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hi Al, what if we all rode to the developer and made the suggestion that we purchased the app for one price. Even if it's a higher price it would be worth it rather than having to purchase an amount for every so many pictures. We have to know whether the pictures are blurry dark or otherwise so that we know how to place our phone and what to do to improve the quality of our pictures since we can't see. This information is useful, but it would count against how many pictures we can have. So I think that for what we get with this app it would be worth purchasing it for a higher price. God bless, Wren Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan keinohr...@googlemail.com javascript: wrote: I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers already said that there could be a fee one day. However, I'd also rather pay a high price and be able to use the app for a lifetime instead of the subscription model. A problem I see are these pictures that are useless for object recognition; pictures that are blurry, too dark or are recorded from a too near or too far distance or in a wrong rotation. Most blind folks don't know too much about taking really good, clear, centered photos, so I guess that, depending on the circumstances, a significant amount of pictures will be charged but don't return a real result. Maybe it would be possible to sell a standard edition of the app for a fairly high price and charge extra money as in app purchases as soon as new features are being added. Maybe a version with adds would be fine as well, and people who don't like to see the adds would have to pay the full price. Regards, Alexandra - Original Message - From: rubyalphonse rubyal...@gmail.com javascript: To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing vip...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphon...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing vip...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing
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Hi All, I'd like to address the suggestion that some of you had about us charging a one-time, or a lifetime, fee. I believe Alex Hall gave the best response to it. I will actually quote him in my response to you: The problem with a one-time fee, as others have pointed out, is that the developers have ongoing costs which they have to pay every month. Paying a single fee upfront will not let them support those costs each month, since after the initial flood of incoming money from the initial purchases, they will not have anything more. Paying per picture, or per month, is a much better way of doing things since you are essentially paying the costs associated with every picture. While a one-time fee would be better for consumers, in the long run it would cause the developers to lose money, and probably have to shut the service down. The monthly subscription allows them to keep the doors open, so to speak, by ensuring that every pictures paid for. Also, to address some concerns about images failing - we will be releasing an update in the next 5-7 days that will fix TapTapSee to only count the successful images toward your credits. Best Wishes, TapTapSee Team On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:18:31 AM UTC-8, tmeade wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi Ruby, I completely understand your problem. My fiancée is from the Philippines and while she is not blind, spending $8 or $10 is a lot of money. If she can find a job which right now she can't she only earns about $5 or $6 for a 9-hour work day so spending $10 for her is easily like spending $100 or $200 for somebody in North America or Europe who works. However, as David has pointed out and as the Tap Tap See people have explained, it does cost them money to offer this service and obviously they have to at least try and recover their expenses, no business can function if they spend more than they earn. Considering how small the user base is, charging even $9.99 to buy the app once will not be a solution for Tap Tap See since their costs are ongoing and their costs are higher the more people use the app. Once you buy an app in the App Store it is fairly normal that you don't ever pay for this app again and I find this awesome, but for developers it means they only have income once despite the fact that they continue to work and improve an app. I suggest you explore some of the other apps which people use, Camfind may work for you in quite a few cases even though it is not designed to be used by the blind and it may not be as easy to use or accessible, it is certainly useable. Another app you should get some good results from is Talking Goggles. They have a free version and a 99 Cents version and you can also buy the free version first and then spend the 99 Cents as an in-app purchase to disable ads and to enable links they provide for looking up a product online or doing price comparisons. You may not even ever use this feature and if the ads don't bother you the free version might do the trick for you. Then maybe you could try how this work in combination with buying the 100 pictures from Tap Tap See for $7.99, if you try the other apps first and only use Tap Tap See occasionally they may last you many months. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rubyalphonse Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hello TapTapSee Team, I don't want anything free, I would love to pay One time payment, than paying packages Please I kindly request you to help us, since this App is very useful and I am much obliged to you for developing this. Regards Ruby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers already said that there could be a fee one day. However, I'd also rather pay a high price and be able to use the app for a lifetime instead of the subscription model. A problem I see are these pictures that are useless for object recognition; pictures that are blurry, too dark or are recorded from a too near or too far distance or in a wrong rotation. Most blind folks don't know too much about taking really good, clear, centered photos, so I guess that, depending on the circumstances, a significant amount of pictures will be charged but don't return a real result. Maybe it would be possible to sell a standard edition of the app for a fairly high price and charge extra money as in app purchases as soon as new features are being added. Maybe a version with adds would be fine as well, and people who don't like to see the adds would have to pay the full price. Regards, Alexandra - Original Message - From: rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can
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I want to express my gratitude for the developers keeping this app free for as long as they have. As stated previously I would love a text box, so I could state that I am seeking the color of my ink print cartridge, not just that it is an ink print cartridge. Also, just out of curiosity, what is the cost in image recognition? I am intrigued, so am just curious. Yolanda On 11/8/2013 10:11 AM, TapTapSee wrote: Betty, It's unfortunate to see you leave our service, but we understand. As mentioned before, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We tried to keep TapTapSee free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:19:12 PM UTC-8, Betty Emmons wrote: I plan to use something else. I can see as a blind person we could go through a lot of pictures. also that would be $108 if my math is correct. Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Blind Treasures blindtr...@comcast.net javascript: To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:18 AM Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphon...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge, my first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get the idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was entitled to freebies! I am talking about a once free app going to subscription service, and stating I think it is overpriced. If you didn't get timed-out pictures, unrecognized images, and just plain wrong info, i.e. my black dog was called a black cat. sometimes when I scan cans I have to take more than one picture, so the 100 pics are impractical, and I don't think I use it enough for the monthly fee. We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
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Although I haven't decided as of yet which way I'll go but I would guess I'd start with the hundred pictures for 8 bucks and see how that goes. If I find myself burning through the hundred in less than a month then I can upgrade that to the unlimited however, as has been proposed, I would like to see a yearly price too before I choose. --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:17 AM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Some people don’t mind going for the 8 dollars for 100 pictures ike those that don’t use it that often. I’m one of those that doesn’t use it that often so 30 or whatever I wouldn’t pay just like I’m choosing not to go the month route because it’s just not worth me paying monthly for. Now if I used it more often sure. I think them having different rate plans is better than one price you have no choice but to choose. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. There are many blind people out there who think that they should have everything for free, but I am not one of them. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the second lots of people, well, move on to some other free apps like VizWiz, or source it with other app. I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things are. As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to close not too far, and correct brightness etc. For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee? Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R Rated photo just to test it out. One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C per day to support the app? again, because, blind user are entitle to freebies kind of attitude? Do the math yourself. $10 per month is less than 35C per day for unlimited service. or $8 per 100 image which is 8C per image. The way i see it is that, TapTapSee is waiting for too long to charge for the app. Like some said earlier, if TapTapSee charges by the word 'go, i wonder, if people will still whining about it as if there is no tomorrow. On 08/11/2013, rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone
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I am not leaving, in fact I have not downloaded it yet. I hope to download it in the very near future. I will probably buy the 8 dollar package. I feel better since I know only the useable pictures will be used. I am still excited about subscribing to this app. I also look forward to doing business with taptapsee Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: TapTapSee To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Betty, It's unfortunate to see you leave our service, but we understand. As mentioned before, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We tried to keep TapTapSee free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:19:12 PM UTC-8, Betty Emmons wrote: I plan to use something else. I can see as a blind person we could go through a lot of pictures. also that would be $108 if my math is correct. Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Blind Treasures blindtr...@comcast.net To: vip...@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:18 AM Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing vip...@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphon...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I am not surprised that taptapSee had to change to a subscription and knew it was a matter of time. I have considered purchasing the 100 pictures but honestly I really would like to have the ability to let the person know what information I am needing. I have sometimes had to use 6 pics in order to get the information I need. Now, this isn't every time, by any means. Sometimes one picture is all that is necessary. Once, I was told that I had a red and white spice bottle, I took another picture without turning the bottle because I knew from experience that the printed label was where I was pointing the camera, and then it gave me the correct information. when on the subscription, I don't want to waste pictures on needless information which I already know. I know that some people mentioned that getting bad pictures is the fault of the picture taker. However, when you have zero usable vision it isn't always easy to know whether you have the correct distance/lighting etc. I had 20/20 vision in the past and understand how to take a picture. Much of the time I have success when using taptapSee. I would just like a short edit box to let them know that I would like the name of the spice, the pattern on the shirt, the type of milk etc. Kellie, guide Loki and retired July -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge, my first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get the idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was entitled to freebies! I am talking about a once free app going to subscription service, and stating I think it is overpriced. If you didn't get timed-out pictures, unrecognized images, and just plain wrong info, i.e. my black dog was called a black cat. sometimes when I scan cans I have to take more than one picture, so the 100 pics are impractical, and I don't think I use it enough for the monthly fee. We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone
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In the past, if I try three pictures for one item and get no results, I move on, I probably have not used the app 100 times in the past 10 months, that said, the reason I don't use it a lot as unlike many of you, my results have been pretty spotty, but then I have that problem with all camera apps, can't even take my own picture and get it right which is probably why I would buy the 100 pictures at least for now, if I use them in a month and have to buy more, it is still less expensive than the monthly charge, and if it takes me 10 months to use up my 100 then, well I come out the winner on that deal, will it keep me from experimenting when I have need or time, probably not, but then again, depending where I am in the cycle I may be deciding if the info I want is truly necessary. I have not actually opened the app since July when I was trying to read the LED display on the ice machine, that did not work but I was not at all surprised by that result either. Successful pictures would be a great idea but who determines what is a success, I may get enough to help me determine what the bottle or jar is but someone else may want a lot more so, I will take no more than five pictures of any object then do something else. What I do like is regardless of cost, it is one more tool I can try to use when I need it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Yes, I too would have a lot of bad pictures. I think I shall have to refrain from paying as I don't use the app often, but I will think some more on this. I realise they do need to pay their employees, but we can't necessarily afford to do this.. What about those who want to try the app for the first time? Are they going to be forced into paying before they've even tried? Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 7 Nov 2013, at 03:21 pm, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You
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Recognizer was a total loss for me, I had no pictures, no one to take the pictures at the time I tried, it is on the computer but not my phone, needing someone to take pictures of things for me to access them just isn't in the cards for me. Recognizer is one app I wish I had not bought. I found I was not a Fleksy fan either, but I won't ask for my money back, I bought it when it was $14, found that for me it just did not work well. Live and Learn. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee For currency, LookTel is a one-time fee. It will only recognise currency. For object recognition, Recognizer works quite well. It is also a one-time fee. It does not require an internet connection, but one must already have a good picture of the object in the database on one's iOS device. I remember well how much complaining occurred because it was so unreasonable that the developers would put out an app which required assistance from sighted people for getting the personal database set up. VizWiz is free and does the same thing TapTapSee does. However, VizWiz relies on volunteers, so sometimes delays can be very significant before one's picture is recognised. TapTapSee pays for the identification, so the recognition comes back very quickly. The fact is, this is an ongoing fee for TapTapSee, so a one-time charge would not cover the fees for very long considering that we blind are such an insignificant share of the market. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 8 Nov 2013, at 6:02, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http
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There really are a few of us who can't seem to figure out focus issues and get even mediocre pictures, I can do a lot of things in the life but I can't drive and apparently I can't do reasonable pictures either. Still even with that limitation my iPhone does a lot of things with me that could not have happened even three years ago. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee One thing for sure, I bet a lot of folks who do choose to pay will get better or at least try to get better at photo taking. I don't know if I'd be willing to shell out $10.00 a month, but to try out, I don't think $8.00 is all that bad for 100 photos. Besides, supporting a dev's work and especially accessibility focused apps isn't a bad thing. Not everything can be free. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I can understand that people are disappointed, but people saying they'd rather have a one-time charge apparently don't understand the Terk crowd-sourcing model. Tap Tap See outsources the identification of pictures to people who are paid for each image they recognize. Since some people may use the app a lot more, the provision of a one-time charge would have to be high enough that some users would subsidize others, and a charge for the app makes no accommodation for continued ongoing expenses incurred for continuing to do image recognition. Unless there is grant funding from somewhere else, i.e. a foundation or charity, then somebody has to pay for the people who respond to requests to have images recognized. Steve - Original Message - From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http
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Rose, When we say successful images we are referring to images that did not come back with failed to send or image timed-out. We are not referring to the tag that is provide for the said image. As for taking the picture, there's a beep that goes off when an image is in focus. We recommend that if you're taking a picture of a bottle of water or something of similar size, then do it at a distance of 8-10 inches away. The bigger the item the further you'll need to step back. However, if you are looking to get the label of a bottle read to you, then consider taking the picture 6-10 inches away from the area where you believe the label is located. Unfortunately, there's no sure way for us to tell you how to take the picture. This requires a bit of trial and error. Best Wishes, On Friday, November 8, 2013 11:54:02 AM UTC-8, Rose Combs wrote: There really are a few of us who can't seem to figure out focus issues and get even mediocre pictures, I can do a lot of things in the life but I can't drive and apparently I can't do reasonable pictures either. Still even with that limitation my iPhone does a lot of things with me that could not have happened even three years ago. -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:41 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: RE: Tap TapSee One thing for sure, I bet a lot of folks who do choose to pay will get better or at least try to get better at photo taking. I don't know if I'd be willing to shell out $10.00 a month, but to try out, I don't think $8.00 is all that bad for 100 photos. Besides, supporting a dev's work and especially accessibility focused apps isn't a bad thing. Not everything can be free. -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:16 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I can understand that people are disappointed, but people saying they'd rather have a one-time charge apparently don't understand the Terk crowd-sourcing model. Tap Tap See outsources the identification of pictures to people who are paid for each image they recognize. Since some people may use the app a lot more, the provision of a one-time charge would have to be high enough that some users would subsidize others, and a charge for the app makes no accommodation for continued ongoing expenses incurred for continuing to do image recognition. Unless there is grant funding from somewhere else, i.e. a foundation or charity, then somebody has to pay for the people who respond to requests to have images recognized. Steve - Original Message - From: Donna merm...@bellsouth.net javascript: To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing vip...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphon...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
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Well, there should be more options to pay. I use the app often and would have no problem paying something, but those options do not fit my needs. To waste money on pictures that come back with the wrong info or not telling you what you are needing to know is simply not acceptable to me. I will find other options. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee For currency, LookTel is a one-time fee. It will only recognise currency. For object recognition, Recognizer works quite well. It is also a one-time fee. It does not require an internet connection, but one must already have a good picture of the object in the database on one's iOS device. I remember well how much complaining occurred because it was so unreasonable that the developers would put out an app which required assistance from sighted people for getting the personal database set up. VizWiz is free and does the same thing TapTapSee does. However, VizWiz relies on volunteers, so sometimes delays can be very significant before one's picture is recognised. TapTapSee pays for the identification, so the recognition comes back very quickly. The fact is, this is an ongoing fee for TapTapSee, so a one-time charge would not cover the fees for very long considering that we blind are such an insignificant share of the market. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 8 Nov 2013, at 6:02, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
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it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:18:31 AM UTC-8, tmeade wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en
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I believe the developers should also explore ways of cutting their costs. It dosn't matter !me because, I'm just not going !use it. A lot of the apps on the Droid os are free. Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s! On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with a one-time fee, as others have pointed out, is that the developers have ongoing costs which they have to pay every month. Paying a single fee upfront will not let them support those costs each month, since after the initial flood of incoming money from the initial purchases, they will not have anything more. Paying per picture, or per month, is a much better way of doing things since you are essentially paying the costs associated with every picture. While a one-time fee would be better for consumers, in the long run it would cause the developers to lose money, and probably have to shut the service down. The monthly subscription allows them to keep the doors open, so to speak, by ensuring that every pictures paid for. On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Al, what if we all rode to the developer and made the suggestion that we purchased the app for one price. Even if it's a higher price it would be worth it rather than having to purchase an amount for every so many pictures. We have to know whether the pictures are blurry dark or otherwise so that we know how to place our phone and what to do to improve the quality of our pictures since we can't see. This information is useful, but it would count against how many pictures we can have. So I think that for what we get with this app it would be worth purchasing it for a higher price. God bless, Wren Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan keinohrhasen...@googlemail.com wrote: I love this app, as it is very helpful to me, easy to use and the developers already said that there could be a fee one day. However, I'd also rather pay a high price and be able to use the app for a lifetime instead of the subscription model. A problem I see are these pictures that are useless for object recognition; pictures that are blurry, too dark or are recorded from a too near or too far distance or in a wrong rotation. Most blind folks don't know too much about taking really good, clear, centered photos, so I guess that, depending on the circumstances, a significant amount of pictures will be charged but don't return a real result. Maybe it would be possible to sell a standard edition of the app for a fairly high price and charge extra money as in app purchases as soon as new features are being added. Maybe a version with adds would be fine as well, and people who don't like to see the adds would have to pay the full price. Regards, Alexandra - Original Message - From: rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow
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I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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And I think we have given vallid reason why we aren’t paying. each person has to decide for themselves what services they will pay for. for example I got tired of paying freedom scientific a software maintainence agreement every two versions of jaws, so I moved to mac. I talked about it with others, did not “whine” about it. I also do this with mainstream services. I decided amazone prime was too expensive and I wasn’t using it so I dropped it. I don’t care they are blind related or not. If I won’t use them I won’t pay for them, period, end of story. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:31 AM, James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com wrote: this may get me kicked off the list, but at this point, I don't care. I'm really tired, of the blind community wining when they have to start paying for something. you people don't take into consideration -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie. It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business. As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to make my office rent, so my business would close. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing
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Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge, my first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get the idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was entitled to freebies! I am talking about a once free app going to subscription service, and stating I think it is overpriced. If you didn't get timed-out pictures, unrecognized images, and just plain wrong info, i.e. my black dog was called a black cat. sometimes when I scan cans I have to take more than one picture, so the 100 pics are impractical, and I don't think I use it enough for the monthly fee. We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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There are plenty of business models where you pay a one time flat fee and get service for life or some such. The apps and applications I pay for with a flat fee often come with life time support or include upgrades at no charge. TiVo used to and may still offer a one time fee for TiVo streaming for life. These are just a few examples. Just because someone wants to pay a flat fee instead of a monthly charge doesn't mean they want something for free. This business model may not be tenable for TapTap See, so they need to set the model that will keep them afloat and then people need to determine if they'll pay that or not. There are quite a few things I think are more than I want to pay for, but just because I think something costs more than I want to spend, that doesn't mean I'm looking for something for free. On 11/08/2013 04:36 PM, David Chittenden wrote: No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie. It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business. As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to make my office rent, so my business would close. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing
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It is not worth it for me, and no one can decide that for me but me. I don’t need any flack for it either. I don’t support an app just because it is for the blind, and I didn’t develop the app or decide to make it free for a year. I am well aware of what the cost of it is, and have said I would pay a flat fee for it. I am not interested in paying for a subscription, and I think this discussion has gotten to be futile. I have to decide what is paid for in my budget, and what is not. to intimate that I pay for an app just because I used it in the past when it was free and now I owe them because they developed an app I used is ridiculous. I cannot believe the insults thrown around for people who are just saying the app isn’t worth the money to them right now. as I said before amazon prime isn’t worth the money to me anymore, who is anyone to be giving me grief because of it? Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Thank you! :). I totally agree with this. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: . Just because someone wants to pay a flat fee instead of a monthly charge doesn't mean they want something for free. This business model may not be tenable for TapTap See, so they need to set the model that will keep them afloat and then people need to determine if they'll pay that or not. There are quite a few things I think are more than I want to pay for, but just because I think something costs more than I want to spend, that doesn't mean I'm looking for something for free. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check out twitter if you don't believe me. Andrea Love - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie. It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business. As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to make my office rent, so my business would close. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google
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I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge, my first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get the idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was entitled to freebies! I am talking about a once free app going to subscription service, and stating I think it is overpriced. If you didn't get timed-out pictures, unrecognized images, and just plain wrong info, i.e. my black dog was called a black cat. sometimes when I scan cans I have to take more than one picture, so the 100 pics are impractical, and I don't think I use it enough for the monthly fee. We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone
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I don't agree. Sure, there are some blind people who want things for free, but that's true for sighted people as well. I'm sure I could check out Twitter and find sighted people who don't want to pay for something, but I wouldn't conclude from that that most sighted people want freebies. Don't assume that the vocal minority speaks for the silent majority. Furthermore, Ive seen very few messages on this topic where people were reluctant to pay anything at all. Most people seem to have a concern over the price or it's subscription nature. I know plenty of sighted people who refuse to or don't want to get into another monthly subscription for something. Nevertheless, some people are assuming blind people are asking for something for free and just adding to this noise that most blind people just want handouts, even though the actual messages to this list don't bear that out. I'd never take tweats out of context and then use that to paint some broad strokes about most blind people. That's prejudice and discrimination, and I've faced enough of that in my lifetime that I'm not going to turn around and do that to another blind person. On 11/08/2013 05:14 PM, Andrea Love wrote: Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check out twitter if you don't believe me. Andrea Love - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie. It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business. As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to make my office rent, so my business would close. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures
Re: Tap TapSee
TapTapSee, I have a proposal for you. Deal to all the complains about how much you charge for either 8C per picture or less than 35C per day, what about this as a proposal? Charge by picture. $5 for one picture, or $50 for 100 pictures. These people, like the chinese said, know how to eat, but does not know the price of food, more so, the price of making the food. Let those whiners have real reason to whine about, or shud them up. Maybe better off, just shut off the service, cut the losts, and like those whiners said, let them find the alternative that they so looking for it. On 09/11/2013, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't agree. Sure, there are some blind people who want things for free, but that's true for sighted people as well. I'm sure I could check out Twitter and find sighted people who don't want to pay for something, but I wouldn't conclude from that that most sighted people want freebies. Don't assume that the vocal minority speaks for the silent majority. Furthermore, Ive seen very few messages on this topic where people were reluctant to pay anything at all. Most people seem to have a concern over the price or it's subscription nature. I know plenty of sighted people who refuse to or don't want to get into another monthly subscription for something. Nevertheless, some people are assuming blind people are asking for something for free and just adding to this noise that most blind people just want handouts, even though the actual messages to this list don't bear that out. I'd never take tweats out of context and then use that to paint some broad strokes about most blind people. That's prejudice and discrimination, and I've faced enough of that in my lifetime that I'm not going to turn around and do that to another blind person. On 11/08/2013 05:14 PM, Andrea Love wrote: Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check out twitter if you don't believe me. Andrea Love - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie. It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business. As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to make my office rent, so my business would close. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you
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I have not been reading this thread, being that I had not accessed Tap Tap See in quite a while, although I very much like it and have kept it on my phone. After reading some in this thread, I accessed it earlier today, after reading about its becoming a subscription service, to find out how much it costs. There was nothing in it about needing to pay a fee to use it now. Please let me know the details about the subscription service and when it begins. Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Andrea Love andrea.love2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am trying to identify. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge, my first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get the idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was entitled to freebies! I am talking about a once free app going to subscription service, and stating I think it is overpriced. If you didn't get timed-out pictures, unrecognized images, and just plain wrong info, i.e. my black dog was called
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Arnold, The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. Same goes for the 100 picture pack. Best Wishes, TapTapSee On Friday, November 8, 2013 4:21:39 PM UTC-8, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I have not been reading this thread, being that I had not accessed Tap Tap See in quite a while, although I very much like it and have kept it on my phone. After reading some in this thread, I accessed it earlier today, after reading about its becoming a subscription service, to find out how much it costs. There was nothing in it about needing to pay a fee to use it now. Please let me know the details about the subscription service and when it begins. Thanks in advance for any information. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Andrea Love andrea@gmail.com javascript: To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for it!! Andrea Love - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pe...@sympatico.ca javascript: To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi, You, yourself stated: We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps. I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers money. You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now, the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we take on the responsibility of paying for the service. Just a personal opinion Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for unlimited use. I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles
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I think that the gravy days are over. Developers are beginning to realize that there is money to be made in this market, and the apps that people really want or need will cost money. Hopefully, we won't go back to the days where blind people will pay far more for access to their device than for the device itself. Actually, I always wondered how the developers of the free apps make any money. The only issue is that blind persons tend to have far less disposable income than do sighted persons. I would hope that developers who produce apps for both the sighted and blind would make enough money on the apps that they market to the sighted to be able to discount apps that they produce for the blind. Andy -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee There are plenty of business models where you pay a one time flat fee and get service for life or some such. The apps and applications I pay for with a flat fee often come with life time support or include upgrades at no charge. TiVo used to and may still offer a one time fee for TiVo streaming for life. These are just a few examples. Just because someone wants to pay a flat fee instead of a monthly charge doesn't mean they want something for free. This business model may not be tenable for TapTap See, so they need to set the model that will keep them afloat and then people need to determine if they'll pay that or not. There are quite a few things I think are more than I want to pay for, but just because I think something costs more than I want to spend, that doesn't mean I'm looking for something for free. On 11/08/2013 04:36 PM, David Chittenden wrote: No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie. It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business. As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to make my office rent, so my business would close. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month
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I know several sighted people who are financially comfortable, but they hunt for bargains, shop at Wal-mart, etc. I have also observed that there is a freeloader mentality among the blind, but I think that it stemms from the fact that historically, they have received many things for free. They didn't have to scrimp and save, do without, etc. to acquire things like technology, but got it handed to them by some government program. Andy -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I don't agree. Sure, there are some blind people who want things for free, but that's true for sighted people as well. I'm sure I could check out Twitter and find sighted people who don't want to pay for something, but I wouldn't conclude from that that most sighted people want freebies. Don't assume that the vocal minority speaks for the silent majority. Furthermore, Ive seen very few messages on this topic where people were reluctant to pay anything at all. Most people seem to have a concern over the price or it's subscription nature. I know plenty of sighted people who refuse to or don't want to get into another monthly subscription for something. Nevertheless, some people are assuming blind people are asking for something for free and just adding to this noise that most blind people just want handouts, even though the actual messages to this list don't bear that out. I'd never take tweats out of context and then use that to paint some broad strokes about most blind people. That's prejudice and discrimination, and I've faced enough of that in my lifetime that I'm not going to turn around and do that to another blind person. On 11/08/2013 05:14 PM, Andrea Love wrote: Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check out twitter if you don't believe me. Andrea Love - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie. It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business. As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to make my office rent, so my business would close. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies. Alia On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Alia, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a puppydog can wag its tail. Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking skills. I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is an outrageous price. Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap
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I'm actually not too interested in what others think about the price of different apps. When the Seeing Eye GPS app came out, I really wasn't too interested in all of the posts to the list saying they thought it was too expensive and they wouldn't be buying it. IMHO, that's a personal decision people have to make for themselves, and as with the Seeing Eye app or TapTap See, I'll be making the decision as to whether I think it's a service worth the price or not. Everyone is different, has different needs and expectations and is in different economic situations, so I'm not sure why people feel compelled to let everyone else know if something is too expensive for them or not, and I'm not sure why people care waht others are willing to spend on an app or service. That being said, I don't think someone who thinks a product is worth more than they're willing to spend is a free loader or is someone looking for a hand out. If I buy Window Eyes instead of JAWS because I think it's a better product for the money, does that make me a free loader? When I buy a Nisson instead of a Honda, and I looking for a handout? I don't recall any posts to this list saying TapTap See should be free and that the developers of TapTap See shouldn't charge for their app or their service. That would be asking for a freebie or a handout. Most people have been asking for a flat price or a cheaper option, and since I have no clue what it costs to have people identify the contents of a picture, I have no idea if this cost will be covered by this model or not. The developers of TapTap See have the right to set any price they want. Maybe they'll just cover their costs or maybe they'll have a huge markup. All I know is what I'm willing to pay for the service. The developers will make enough money to continue developing TatTap See and providing the service or they won't. There are blind people, just like their are sighted people, who have a sense of entitlement and want a handout. We should feel sorry for those people and help them. We shouldn't confuse someone who's just deciding if they can afford a particular service or app though with those people. On 11/08/2013 06:04 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: TapTapSee, I have a proposal for you. Deal to all the complains about how much you charge for either 8C per picture or less than 35C per day, what about this as a proposal? Charge by picture. $5 for one picture, or $50 for 100 pictures. These people, like the chinese said, know how to eat, but does not know the price of food, more so, the price of making the food. Let those whiners have real reason to whine about, or shud them up. Maybe better off, just shut off the service, cut the losts, and like those whiners said, let them find the alternative that they so looking for it. On 09/11/2013, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't agree. Sure, there are some blind people who want things for free, but that's true for sighted people as well. I'm sure I could check out Twitter and find sighted people who don't want to pay for something, but I wouldn't conclude from that that most sighted people want freebies. Don't assume that the vocal minority speaks for the silent majority. Furthermore, Ive seen very few messages on this topic where people were reluctant to pay anything at all. Most people seem to have a concern over the price or it's subscription nature. I know plenty of sighted people who refuse to or don't want to get into another monthly subscription for something. Nevertheless, some people are assuming blind people are asking for something for free and just adding to this noise that most blind people just want handouts, even though the actual messages to this list don't bear that out. I'd never take tweats out of context and then use that to paint some broad strokes about most blind people. That's prejudice and discrimination, and I've faced enough of that in my lifetime that I'm not going to turn around and do that to another blind person. On 11/08/2013 05:14 PM, Andrea Love wrote: Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check out twitter if you don't believe me. Andrea Love - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie. It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business. As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere
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I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I’m not paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that hundred. Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app purchasing, but the prices as they are now are not at all what I would consider acceptable. This is especially true when you remember that this app was always free; we are jumping from paying nothing to paying $8 to $10? That’s ridiculous. On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I just used Tap Tap See and got no such message! I then checked to see if there was an update available and there wasn't so I guess so far it hasn't gotten around to me yet! I do agree that it sometimes takes several pictures to get the information you're looking for and that one could easily go through 100 pictures fairly quickly! I don't expect that we should get all of these aps for nothing but to go from nothing to $8 or $10 per month will in my opinion hurt them rather than help them! Deb -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I'm not paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that hundred. Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app purchasing, but the prices as they are now are not at all what I would consider acceptable. This is especially true when you remember that this app was always free; we are jumping from paying nothing to paying $8 to $10? That's ridiculous. On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr
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Alex, you pay $7.99 for 100 pictures. If it takes you several months to use them then that is all you pay. If you want a monthly subscription then it is $9.99 per month and you get unlimited pictures. I agree, I don't have a problem paying for the app. On 11/7/13, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I’m not paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that hundred. Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app purchasing, but the prices as they are now are not at all what I would consider acceptable. This is especially true when you remember that this app was always free; we are jumping from paying nothing to paying $8 to $10? That’s ridiculous. On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
RE: Tap TapSee
I have not experienced this at all. I used it a few days ago and just tried it as well both with a can of pineapple slices and 2 different pictures from my camera roll. Each time Tap Tatp See did what it usually does, it said Picture 1 in progress and after a while it gave me a result. I looked around on the screen and all I can find are the following buttons: Across the top: Repeat Library Share and About The majority of the screen is the Take Picture button Just above the home key is the new results area where the last result is displayed and can be reviewed with Voiceover When I tap on About one of the items there is their Terms of Use and there is no mention of a fee, here is what it says: Effective date: August 8, 2013. By accessing or using the TapTapSee website, the TapTapSee service, or any applications (including mobile applications) made available by TapTapSee (together, the Service), however accessed, you agree to be bound by these terms of use (Terms of Use). The Service is owned or controlled by Image Searcher, Inc. (Image Searcher). These Terms of Use affect your legal rights and obligations. If you do not agree to be bound by all of these Terms of Use, do not access or use the Service. There may be times when we offer a special feature that has its own terms and conditions that apply in addition to these Terms of Use. In those cases, the terms specific to the special feature control to the extent there is a conflict with these Terms of Use. ARBITRATION NOTICE: EXCEPT IF YOU OPT-OUT AND EXCEPT FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DISPUTES DESCRIBED IN THE ARBITRATION SECTION BELOW, YOU AGREE THAT DISPUTES BETWEEN YOU AND IMAGE SEARCHER WILL BE RESOLVED BY BINDING, INDIVIDUAL ARBITRATION AND YOU WAIVE YOUR RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT OR CLASS-WIDE ARBITRATION. You may not post violent, nude, partially nude, discriminatory, unlawful, infringing, hateful, pornographic or sexually suggestive photos or other content via the Service. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tap TapSee
Attempted to duplicate the findings expressed and could not. Perhapse it will appear later, however, at this moment there is no finding that I must purchase pic's. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: RE: Tap TapSee I have not experienced this at all. I used it a few days ago and just tried it as well both with a can of pineapple slices and 2 different pictures from my camera roll. Each time Tap Tatp See did what it usually does, it said Picture 1 in progress and after a while it gave me a result. I looked around on the screen and all I can find are the following buttons: Across the top: Repeat Library Share and About The majority of the screen is the Take Picture button Just above the home key is the new results area where the last result is displayed and can be reviewed with Voiceover When I tap on About one of the items there is their Terms of Use and there is no mention of a fee, here is what it says: Effective date: August 8, 2013. By accessing or using the TapTapSee website, the TapTapSee service, or any applications (including mobile applications) made available by TapTapSee (together, the Service), however accessed, you agree to be bound by these terms of use (Terms of Use). The Service is owned or controlled by Image Searcher, Inc. (Image Searcher). These Terms of Use affect your legal rights and obligations. If you do not agree to be bound by all of these Terms of Use, do not access or use the Service. There may be times when we offer a special feature that has its own terms and conditions that apply in addition to these Terms of Use. In those cases, the terms specific to the special feature control to the extent there is a conflict with these Terms of Use. ARBITRATION NOTICE: EXCEPT IF YOU OPT-OUT AND EXCEPT FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DISPUTES DESCRIBED IN THE ARBITRATION SECTION BELOW, YOU AGREE THAT DISPUTES BETWEEN YOU AND IMAGE SEARCHER WILL BE RESOLVED BY BINDING, INDIVIDUAL ARBITRATION AND YOU WAIVE YOUR RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT OR CLASS-WIDE ARBITRATION. You may not post violent, nude, partially nude, discriminatory, unlawful, infringing, hateful, pornographic or sexually suggestive photos or other content via the Service. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group
Re: Tap TapSee
I didn’t get that message yesterday, but I did get it just now. So I think it has to catch up for some people. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I have not experienced this at all. I used it a few days ago and just tried it as well both with a can of pineapple slices and 2 different pictures from my camera roll. Each time Tap Tatp See did what it usually does, it said Picture 1 in progress and after a while it gave me a result. I looked around on the screen and all I can find are the following buttons: Across the top: Repeat Library Share and About The majority of the screen is the Take Picture button Just above the home key is the new results area where the last result is displayed and can be reviewed with Voiceover When I tap on About one of the items there is their Terms of Use and there is no mention of a fee, here is what it says: Effective date: August 8, 2013. By accessing or using the TapTapSee website, the TapTapSee service, or any applications (including mobile applications) made available by TapTapSee (together, the Service), however accessed, you agree to be bound by these terms of use (Terms of Use). The Service is owned or controlled by Image Searcher, Inc. (Image Searcher). These Terms of Use affect your legal rights and obligations. If you do not agree to be bound by all of these Terms of Use, do not access or use the Service. There may be times when we offer a special feature that has its own terms and conditions that apply in addition to these Terms of Use. In those cases, the terms specific to the special feature control to the extent there is a conflict with these Terms of Use. ARBITRATION NOTICE: EXCEPT IF YOU OPT-OUT AND EXCEPT FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DISPUTES DESCRIBED IN THE ARBITRATION SECTION BELOW, YOU AGREE THAT DISPUTES BETWEEN YOU AND IMAGE SEARCHER WILL BE RESOLVED BY BINDING, INDIVIDUAL ARBITRATION AND YOU WAIVE YOUR RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT OR CLASS-WIDE ARBITRATION. You may not post violent, nude, partially nude, discriminatory, unlawful, infringing, hateful, pornographic or sexually suggestive photos or other content via the Service. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting
Re: Tap TapSee
I had an update last night, and sadly, I did not read through the changes so I only have myself to blame. It is strange that others don't have an update waiting. On 11/7/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I have not experienced this at all. I used it a few days ago and just tried it as well both with a can of pineapple slices and 2 different pictures from my camera roll. Each time Tap Tatp See did what it usually does, it said Picture 1 in progress and after a while it gave me a result. I looked around on the screen and all I can find are the following buttons: Across the top: Repeat Library Share and About The majority of the screen is the Take Picture button Just above the home key is the new results area where the last result is displayed and can be reviewed with Voiceover When I tap on About one of the items there is their Terms of Use and there is no mention of a fee, here is what it says: Effective date: August 8, 2013. By accessing or using the TapTapSee website, the TapTapSee service, or any applications (including mobile applications) made available by TapTapSee (together, the Service), however accessed, you agree to be bound by these terms of use (Terms of Use). The Service is owned or controlled by Image Searcher, Inc. (Image Searcher). These Terms of Use affect your legal rights and obligations. If you do not agree to be bound by all of these Terms of Use, do not access or use the Service. There may be times when we offer a special feature that has its own terms and conditions that apply in addition to these Terms of Use. In those cases, the terms specific to the special feature control to the extent there is a conflict with these Terms of Use. ARBITRATION NOTICE: EXCEPT IF YOU OPT-OUT AND EXCEPT FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DISPUTES DESCRIBED IN THE ARBITRATION SECTION BELOW, YOU AGREE THAT DISPUTES BETWEEN YOU AND IMAGE SEARCHER WILL BE RESOLVED BY BINDING, INDIVIDUAL ARBITRATION AND YOU WAIVE YOUR RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT OR CLASS-WIDE ARBITRATION. You may not post violent, nude, partially nude, discriminatory, unlawful, infringing, hateful, pornographic or sexually suggestive photos or other content via the Service. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing
RE: Tap TapSee
I haven't seen anything as far as cost yet, but I also agree that if they start charging, particularly the rate quoted, it would hurt them more than help. Esther Levegnale -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ---BeginMessage--- I just used Tap Tap See and got no such message! I then checked to see if there was an update available and there wasn't so I guess so far it hasn't gotten around to me yet! I do agree that it sometimes takes several pictures to get the information you're looking for and that one could easily go through 100 pictures fairly quickly! I don't expect that we should get all of these aps for nothing but to go from nothing to $8 or $10 per month will in my opinion hurt them rather than help them! Deb -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I'm not paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that hundred. Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app purchasing, but the prices as they are now are not at all what I would consider acceptable. This is especially true when you remember that this app was always free; we are jumping from paying nothing to paying $8 to $10? That's ridiculous. On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail
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Hi, I am getting the message to purchase credit, I am very disappointed, and really upset about it. I was very happy because it helped to find out my currency and many other things. RubyOriginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blind Treasures Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hello, OK, I was going to post my own rant about what I first assumed was a rumour about Tap Tap See not being free any more. I just used the app and it worked fine. However, after going to http://www.TapTapSeeApp.com I found their Twitter messages and here are the important ones which were posted within the last half hour: Due to the high cost of image recognition we had to change into a subscription based service We apologize for the inconvenience that our subscription has brought, but this was the only way to avoid shutting down completely. Well, I guess this means either pay up or find other apps which might do the same for free, no point in complaining, after all, we all love Tap Tap See and it's not like there aren't other options one can try first like Talking Goggles. I think I will buy the 100 pictures for $7.99, after all, paying 8 Cents to have something identified on the spot is not such a bad deal. I think this mostly means that one needs to make sure the picture turns out as good as possible, I think 100 pictures will probably last me many months especially since there are other options. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I would gladly pay for the app for what it does for me, but I won’t pay a monthly fee, not at all interested if that is the case. Alia On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I don't use it often and would probably make a mess of some pictures also! I too would pay for a one time fee or even over a year, but not every month and not that amount! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 7 Nov 2013, at 05:02 pm, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Yes, I too would have a lot of bad pictures. I think I shall have to refrain from paying as I don't use the app often, but I will think some more on this. I realise they do need to pay their employees, but we can't necessarily afford to do this.. What about those who want to try the app for the first time? Are they going to be forced into paying before they've even tried? Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 7 Nov 2013, at 03:21 pm, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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For currency, LookTel is a one-time fee. It will only recognise currency. For object recognition, Recognizer works quite well. It is also a one-time fee. It does not require an internet connection, but one must already have a good picture of the object in the database on one's iOS device. I remember well how much complaining occurred because it was so unreasonable that the developers would put out an app which required assistance from sighted people for getting the personal database set up. VizWiz is free and does the same thing TapTapSee does. However, VizWiz relies on volunteers, so sometimes delays can be very significant before one's picture is recognised. TapTapSee pays for the identification, so the recognition comes back very quickly. The fact is, this is an ongoing fee for TapTapSee, so a one-time charge would not cover the fees for very long considering that we blind are such an insignificant share of the market. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 8 Nov 2013, at 6:02, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Actually, considering that the company has always lost money on TapTapSee, your statement that the company charging will hurt them more than it will help them is completely incorrect. If charging decreases the number of images that the company needs to pay staff to identify, fewer staff need to be employed to identify said images. This lowers some of the company's out-of-pocket expenses that they have been incurring from donating this service which has been costing them significant amounts of money. Next, the people who do pay the fees help to offset the continuing cost of paying staff to identify the images. Considering how many images the identification staff must recognise in a day, and how much this has increased over time as the app has become more popular, I suspect that their low fees mean they are only trying to recover enough cost so they can continue affording the loss. If they were attempting to break even, not to mention making a profit, the fees would be substantially higher. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 8 Nov 2013, at 5:12, Esther elevegn...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I haven't seen anything as far as cost yet, but I also agree that if they start charging, particularly the rate quoted, it would hurt them more than help. Esther Levegnale -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. mime-attachment -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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this did not occur yesterday. *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:18 AM Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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hmm I just used it and the only request I received was to rate it. *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I’m not paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that hundred. Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app purchasing, but the prices as they are now are not at all what I would consider acceptable. This is especially true when you remember that this app was always free; we are jumping from paying nothing to paying $8 to $10? That’s ridiculous. On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
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Within the next few days, you will be asked to either get a monthly subscription or you can get a 100 pack of pictures. It hasn't shown up yet, but it will in the next few days. Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1 Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: hmm I just used it and the only request I received was to rate it. *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I’m not paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that hundred. Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app purchasing, but the prices as they are now are not at all what I would consider acceptable. This is especially true when you remember that this app was always free; we are jumping from paying nothing to paying $8 to $10? That’s ridiculous. On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail
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I can understand that people are disappointed, but people saying they'd rather have a one-time charge apparently don't understand the Terk crowd-sourcing model. Tap Tap See outsources the identification of pictures to people who are paid for each image they recognize. Since some people may use the app a lot more, the provision of a one-time charge would have to be high enough that some users would subsidize others, and a charge for the app makes no accommodation for continued ongoing expenses incurred for continuing to do image recognition. Unless there is grant funding from somewhere else, i.e. a foundation or charity, then somebody has to pay for the people who respond to requests to have images recognized. Steve - Original Message - From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tap TapSee
Well, I think, and it is my opinion. Every body needs to eat, money to pay the rent, money to live. Also, every body needs motivations to keep walking in this weird way called life. The people of TabTab See, is people like all of us, like our friends, enemies, or the people who works in the store where we buy food, for survive. How much TabTab See help us? I know that maybe some body use the app just for silly things, or not very often, but in every case. This App is giving us a solution, a huge solution, it is giving a solution that the blind people needs, a little review of something front us. How many times we used this app to read a medicine? to read a package, to see if the cloth that we have on, make match? how many times it helped us, and how much we used this app? so the people who works for tabtab see, doesn't pay rent, doesn't eat? doesn't need to buy medicines? I glad that TabTab See is charging money, because it means that they are paying money to people who will do something with a motivation, with a goal, and receiving economic support. If we don't pay, the will close the business. I You know how dificult is develop software? you know how much is create this kind of project like TabTab see is? So you don't think that they are needing something to keep working this tool that help us? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Liz And Sammie elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Within the next few days, you will be asked to either get a monthly subscription or you can get a 100 pack of pictures. It hasn't shown up yet, but it will in the next few days. Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1 Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: hmm I just used it and the only request I received was to rate it. *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I agree that those prices are excessive. I rarely use the app, so I’m not paying $8 per month for a hundred pictures if I only use a few of that hundred. Charge for the app if you must, or offer more tiers of in-app purchasing, but the prices as they are now are not at all what I would consider acceptable. This is especially true when you remember that this app was always free; we are jumping from paying nothing to paying $8 to $10? That’s ridiculous. On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I agree with you. The problem is that I have to take several pictures before I get a working result so I would go through 100 pictures pretty quickly. $9.99 per month is more than the Seeing Eye app, and I had to think really hard before making that purchase. On 11/7/13, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Tap TapSee
Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:18:31 AM UTC-8, tmeade wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Tap TapSee
One thing for sure, I bet a lot of folks who do choose to pay will get better or at least try to get better at photo taking. I don't know if I'd be willing to shell out $10.00 a month, but to try out, I don't think $8.00 is all that bad for 100 photos. Besides, supporting a dev's work and especially accessibility focused apps isn't a bad thing. Not everything can be free. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I can understand that people are disappointed, but people saying they'd rather have a one-time charge apparently don't understand the Terk crowd-sourcing model. Tap Tap See outsources the identification of pictures to people who are paid for each image they recognize. Since some people may use the app a lot more, the provision of a one-time charge would have to be high enough that some users would subsidize others, and a charge for the app makes no accommodation for continued ongoing expenses incurred for continuing to do image recognition. Unless there is grant funding from somewhere else, i.e. a foundation or charity, then somebody has to pay for the people who respond to requests to have images recognized. Steve - Original Message - From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options
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Also, if TabTab see start to charge money for this service, it will push another people to create services that will be competition for TabTab See, and it will push this company to improve the service. The cruel competition for the customers. It always bring benefits for customers. On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:31 PM, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote: Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:18:31 AM UTC-8, tmeade wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Again, a monthly subscription fee is not the only way you can subscribe to Tap Tap see. You can also subscribe 100 pictures at a time for $8. That is only 8 cents per picture. And there is no time limit on taking those 100 pictures. So if it takes you 6 months to take 100 pictures, then that is fine. I totally understand the reasoning behind what Tap Tap See is doing, and I also understand why they are asking for a subscription. I plan on supporting their efforts and subscribing with the $8 100 picture subscription. I think Tap Tap See supplies a great valuable service, and I really do not want it to go away. Chris Chaffin Follow Me On Twitter Follow Me On Facebook Text Me Call Me -Original Message- From: alia robinson Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I would gladly pay for the app for what it does for me, but I won’t pay a monthly fee, not at all interested if that is the case. Alia On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3426 / Virus Database: 3222/6815 - Release Date: 11/06/13 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I will be happy to pay for using Tap Tap See. Gary -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Tap TapSee Hello, OK, I was going to post my own rant about what I first assumed was a rumour about Tap Tap See not being free any more. I just used the app and it worked fine. However, after going to http://www.TapTapSeeApp.com I found their Twitter messages and here are the important ones which were posted within the last half hour: Due to the high cost of image recognition we had to change into a subscription based service We apologize for the inconvenience that our subscription has brought, but this was the only way to avoid shutting down completely. Well, I guess this means either pay up or find other apps which might do the same for free, no point in complaining, after all, we all love Tap Tap See and it's not like there aren't other options one can try first like Talking Goggles. I think I will buy the 100 pictures for $7.99, after all, paying 8 Cents to have something identified on the spot is not such a bad deal. I think this mostly means that one needs to make sure the picture turns out as good as possible, I think 100 pictures will probably last me many months especially since there are other options. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I plan to use something else. I can see as a blind person we could go through a lot of pictures. also that would be $108 if my math is correct. Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:18 AM Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tap TapSee
It would be $119.88 I think, if you mean per year. Perhaps there could be a yearly subscription fee that is less, but I’m sure they will hammer out the pricing details, as there probably should be a lower-cost pack of credits for anytime use (such as fifty credits). Still, overall you can’t blame them for making this switch. If I used them more, I’d probably go for the pack of one hundred, but as it is I don’t need the app enough to justify the $8. Still, now that I understand the pricing structure better, I am okay with it. Even the $8 pack works out to eight cents per image, and so long as they only charge for images that are recognized, it makes sense to me. On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:19 AM, Betty Emmons bettycemm...@gmail.com wrote: I plan to use something else. I can see as a blind person we could go through a lot of pictures. also that would be $108 if my math is correct. Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:18 AM Subject: Tap TapSee Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tap TapSee
I would not mind so much if I knew my pictures were identifiable before I sent them. Also some people are on a limited income and may not be able to afford charges. I would like to try the app before I was charged. Maybe a month free Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I can understand that people are disappointed, but people saying they'd rather have a one-time charge apparently don't understand the Terk crowd-sourcing model. Tap Tap See outsources the identification of pictures to people who are paid for each image they recognize. Since some people may use the app a lot more, the provision of a one-time charge would have to be high enough that some users would subsidize others, and a charge for the app makes no accommodation for continued ongoing expenses incurred for continuing to do image recognition. Unless there is grant funding from somewhere else, i.e. a foundation or charity, then somebody has to pay for the people who respond to requests to have images recognized. Steve - Original Message - From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone
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Tap Tap See says you get 20 pictures free to try out the app and see if it is something that fits your needs. So they do offer a trial so you can try it out. Chris Chaffin -Original Message- From: Betty Emmons Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I would not mind so much if I knew my pictures were identifiable before I sent them. Also some people are on a limited income and may not be able to afford charges. I would like to try the app before I was charged. Maybe a month free Betty Emmons - Original Message - From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee I can understand that people are disappointed, but people saying they'd rather have a one-time charge apparently don't understand the Terk crowd-sourcing model. Tap Tap See outsources the identification of pictures to people who are paid for each image they recognize. Since some people may use the app a lot more, the provision of a one-time charge would have to be high enough that some users would subsidize others, and a charge for the app makes no accommodation for continued ongoing expenses incurred for continuing to do image recognition. Unless there is grant funding from somewhere else, i.e. a foundation or charity, then somebody has to pay for the people who respond to requests to have images recognized. Steve - Original Message - From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Tap TapSee This is a BIG disappointment to me I would have Absolutely NO problem with a one time charge for TapTap See. It is a GREAT app. But there are months that I hardly use the app and others where I would go well over the 100 picture limit. What is an even BIGGER disappointment for me, is me being charged for an app that I originally got for FREE, use and praised the app, spread just how great the app is and all of this boosted the business! Well, now I'm off to search for Free apps that will identify colors, food packaging, and money. Hopefully those incharge of TapTap See will come to their senses and rethink about a one time fee... Donna There are certainly other options in which most people will probably turn to but I personally think TapTapSee would have been much better off with a one time fee. I would have been more than happy to pay for the app but not a monthly charge especially, like you said with other options available. Thanks goes out to the people at TapTapSee for a wonderful app and good luck to them in the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from
RE: Tap TapSee
Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:18:31 AM UTC-8, tmeade wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tap TapSee
At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the second lots of people, well, move on to some other free apps like VizWiz, or source it with other app. I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things are. As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to close not too far, and correct brightness etc. For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee? Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R Rated photo just to test it out. One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C per day to support the app? again, because, blind user are entitle to freebies kind of attitude? Do the math yourself. $10 per month is less than 35C per day for unlimited service. or $8 per 100 image which is 8C per image. The way i see it is that, TapTapSee is waiting for too long to charge for the app. Like some said earlier, if TapTapSee charges by the word 'go, i wonder, if people will still whining about it as if there is no tomorrow. On 08/11/2013, rubyalphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello TapTapSee team, this is a very good App it helps us to make our independency better. I am very grateful to you for developing this App. Please don't you ever think of shutting this up. Those who can afford to pay will benefit by this wonderful App, those who cannot, will not have it that's all. As I said earlier in India, many blind people are not good financially. I bought this IPhone 5 under a loan. Thinking of all these great Apps. But now I have to think twice or thrice, But, it is very sad, that we have to pay. Regards Ruby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tap TapSee Hello, I'd like to address the TapTapSee's transition from a free app to a subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. We tried to keep TapTapSee for free as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but unfortunately we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid subscription, or shut the app down completely. Best Wishes, On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:18:31 AM UTC-8, tmeade wrote: Has anyone else noticed that now when you go to use TapTapSee, you get a message stating you need to purchase credits to use their app? I think it was $7.99 for 100 pictures or $9.99 for unlimited per month. Hope this doesn't end up hurting them. I would pay for the app but not sure I will be doing credits. What does everyone else think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
