Re: iCloud Mail

2024-01-30 Thread Alban Hoxha
hi.
i have connect icloudmail on outlook, today ,icloudmail sign out from this app.
how can re-sign in from this app?

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I’ve got all emails with hours delays.

> On 30 Jan 2024, at 23:40, Max  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> is anybody having problems downloading iCloud mail today?
> I am not getting mail from my iCloud address.
> Thanks for any advice
> Max.
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Re: iCloud Mail

2024-01-30 Thread Afik Souffir
I’ve got all emails with hours delays.

> On 30 Jan 2024, at 23:40, Max  wrote:
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> is anybody having problems downloading iCloud mail today?
> I am not getting mail from my iCloud address.
> Thanks for any advice
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iCloud Mail

2024-01-30 Thread Max
Hi all,
is anybody having problems downloading iCloud mail today?
I am not getting mail from my iCloud address.
Thanks for any advice 
Max.

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Re: Transfer Gmail contacts to iCloud?

2023-12-14 Thread Grant Downey
Thanks for your email!

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM Kliph  wrote:

> There his a free app called, MCBackup, it scans your contacts, and has
> them email them to yourself, you tap on the file, and import them, just
> make sure iCloud or the account you want them to go to is the default, here
> is the link.
> [image: preview.png]
> <https://apps.apple.com/app/id446784593>
> My Contacts Backup <https://apps.apple.com/app/id446784593>
> Address Book Backup <https://apps.apple.com/app/id446784593>
> <https://apps.apple.com/app/id446784593>
>
> HTH
> For free audio tutorials Checkout MacForTheBlind’s
> Podcast <https://mac-for-the-blind.pinecast.co/>
> Youtube Playlist
> <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOefEEZcxAG8VxmDYMkETHV1X7sXN64qo>
> And website for training and services.
>
> On Dec 14, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
> wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I have some contacts that for some reason are stored in my Gmail account.
>
> I would like to move these into my iCloud account but cannot see an easy
> way to achieve this.
>
> For some reason my default account for contacts had been changed to Gmail
> but I would like them all to be stored in iCloud.
>
> Any advice welcome.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Transfer Gmail contacts to iCloud?

2023-12-14 Thread Grant Downey
Thanks for your email!

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:26 AM Malcolm Parfitt 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have some contacts that for some reason are stored in my Gmail account.
>
> I would like to move these into my iCloud account but cannot see an easy
> way to achieve this.
>
> For some reason my default account for contacts had been changed to Gmail
> but I would like them all to be stored in iCloud.
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> Any advice welcome.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Transfer Gmail contacts to iCloud?

2023-12-14 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello,

I have some contacts that for some reason are stored in my Gmail account.

I would like to move these into my iCloud account but cannot see an easy way to 
achieve this.

For some reason my default account for contacts had been changed to Gmail but I 
would like them all to be stored in iCloud.

Any advice welcome.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Question about iCloud

2023-12-05 Thread Rena
Hello,

 

I signed into iCloud and the photos from the iPhone are already in my pc.

The problem is that when I open iCloud in pc, although I can see the Notes,
Contacts and others, if I enter in notes, I can only read the titles of the
notes, but I can't open any note.

If I enter contacts, it doesn't show me any contact at all.

Is iCloud accessible in windows? Or what commands can I use to see the
contacts, etc.?

 

Rena

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RE: Question about iCloud

2023-10-30 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Rena,

 

iCloud is provided with your Apple device, phone, iPad, or Mac computer.

You get a certain amount of free space which is mostly used for backing up your 
phone and or photos, messages, etc.

 

If you end up getting low on space, you can pay for extra iCloud storage.  I 
believe it is 99¢ per month for an extra 50 gigabytes.

I think you get 5 Gigabytes free.  So if you don’t back up a lot of music and 
photos, or Videos you probably would not need the extra space.

 

I hope that is helpful.

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about iCloud

 

Hello,

 

I am confused about that. Do I have iCloud in my iPhone, or should I install it 
if I want to have it?

I only find iCloud in my phone when I open the Notes app: iCloud and Gmail.

Please, explain.

 

Rena 

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RE: Question about iCloud

2023-10-30 Thread michv
Hi I clowd is found under settings and then your name click on your name and 
then swipe right until you see I clowd and click on it. You will see things 
like I clowd back up and it will say if it is on or off. Hth. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: October 30, 2023 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about iCloud

 

Hello,

 

I am confused about that. Do I have iCloud in my iPhone, or should I install it 
if I want to have it?

I only find iCloud in my phone when I open the Notes app: iCloud and Gmail.

Please, explain.

 

Rena 

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Question about iCloud

2023-10-30 Thread Rena
Hello,

 

I am confused about that. Do I have iCloud in my iPhone, or should I install
it if I want to have it?

I only find iCloud in my phone when I open the Notes app: iCloud and Gmail.

Please, explain.

 

Rena 

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RE: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-12 Thread Debbie Downey
Thanks to all who responded. My friend said that he accidentally cleared the 
notification last night anyway so I told him not to worry about it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ICloud terms of Service?

 

I would definitely not click on anything, and I would delete it

Dan

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 12, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Shirley Tracy mailto:shirleytrac...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I received the same. But I didn’t click on anything. I believe it usually says 
that using the product indicates compliance with terms of service. I didn’t 
read it all, but I didn’t plan on responding or clicking any links, just in 
case.

 

Shirley

 

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

 

From: Debbie Downey <mailto:debdow...@tampabay.rr.com> 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: ICloud terms of Service?

 

Hello,

 

A friend just received a notification on his iPhone about accepting new terms 
of service for iCloud. Has anyone else received this? Not sure if it’s a scam 
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Re: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-12 Thread Dan Yates
I would definitely not click on anything, and I would delete itDanSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Shirley Tracy  wrote:I received the same. But I didn’t click on anything. I believe it usually says that using the product indicates compliance with terms of service. I didn’t read it all, but I didn’t plan on responding or clicking any links, just in case. Shirley   Sent from Mail for Windows From: Debbie DowneySent: Monday, September 11, 2023 8:22 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: ICloud terms of Service? Hello, A friend just received a notification on his iPhone about accepting new terms of service for iCloud. Has anyone else received this? Not sure if it’s a scam or not? Thank you! Debbie -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02c201d9e50f%2426751de0%24735f59a0%24%40tampabay.rr.com. 



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RE: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-12 Thread Afik Souffir
No, its not a scam.
Every company need to update there customers about new terms of service, in 
there serveces.
At apple, we're talking about Icloud for example.



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I received the same. But I didn't click on anything. I believe it usually says 
that using the product indicates compliance with terms of service. I didn't 
read it all, but I didn't plan on responding or clicking any links, just in 
case. Shirley

I received the same. But I didn't click on anything. I believe it usually says 
that using the product indicates compliance with terms of service. I didn't 
read it all, but I didn't plan on responding or clicking any links, just in 
case.

Shirley


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RE: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-12 Thread Shirley Tracy
I received the same. But I didn’t click on anything. I believe it usually says that using the product indicates compliance with terms of service. I didn’t read it all, but I didn’t plan on responding or clicking any links, just in case. Shirley   Sent from Mail for Windows From: Debbie DowneySent: Monday, September 11, 2023 8:22 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: ICloud terms of Service? Hello, A friend just received a notification on his iPhone about accepting new terms of service for iCloud. Has anyone else received this? Not sure if it’s a scam or not? Thank you! Debbie -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02c201d9e50f%2426751de0%24735f59a0%24%40tampabay.rr.com. 



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Re: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-12 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Debbie.


I have a paid iCloud account and I never get anything like that, I 
didn't even get a notification on my phone when I signed up. All of my 
interactions with iCloud have been Emails that come from Apple.



I would just delete it if I were your friend.


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RE: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don’t recall seeing this myself, but I doubt it would be a scam. I mean, how 
many people are going to be tricked into reading updated terms of service.  In 
the notification center, you should be able to tell which app the notification 
came from. If you are worried about the notification though, you can just 
delete it and then go read the iCloud terms of service on line.

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HI Anna and Joseph,

The message was a notification not an email message. That is what really made 
me skeptical about it! This person isn’t the most technically savvy person and 
neither am I but I think I will tell him to just clear it from his notification 
center and move on!

Thank you!

Debbie

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Hi Debbie,

I haven’t seen anything like this. Have them show all headers in the message 
and see who it’s actually from. That should make things clear.

Best,
Anna


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RE: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-11 Thread Debbie Downey
HI Anna and Joseph,

 

The message was a notification not an email message. That is what really made 
me skeptical about it! This person isn’t the most technically savvy person and 
neither am I but I think I will tell him to just clear it from his notification 
center and move on!

 

Thank you!

 

Debbie

 

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Hi Debbie,

 

I haven’t seen anything like this. Have them show all headers in the message 
and see who it’s actually from. That should make things clear.

 

Best,

Anna

 





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Re: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-11 Thread joseph hudson
No, I haven't seen anything like this and I think if I were to, it will 
probably look like a spam email. If you didn't come from Apple boy,, it's 
definitely not legit. And it should be a no reply email.
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> of service for iCloud. Has anyone else received this? Not sure if it’s a scam 
> or not?
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> Thank you!
>  
> Debbie 
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Re: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-11 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Debbie,

I haven’t seen anything like this. Have them show all headers in the message 
and see who it’s actually from. That should make things clear.

Best,
Anna


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ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-11 Thread Debbie Downey
Hello,

 

A friend just received a notification on his iPhone about accepting new
terms of service for iCloud. Has anyone else received this? Not sure if it's
a scam or not?

 

Thank you!

 

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for icloud email.

2023-03-21 Thread alban hoxha
hi.
how can add icloud email on outlook app?

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RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Absolutely, the Windows app is very accessible via the system tray, there are 
also Roboform extensions for Chrome, Edge and Firefox, but especially for my 
many SafeNotes I prefer the desktop app. I just bring up the system tray with 
Jaws Key + F11, press R for Roboform and press enter. This brings up the 
Roboform context menu where I can arrow up (by default the cursor is always at 
the bottom on "Login" or, if you are logged in with your Master password it is 
on "Logout", then as I up arrow I get "Exit" which quits the app, then Logins, 
Bookmarks, Identities, Contacts and Safenotes.
Logins are all your so-called "passcards" which are typically web addresses 
which include login names and passwords so if you  select one it wil lgo to 
that website, fill in the information and log you in. There are some exceptions 
as some websites don't allow for this or some have a screen with  your user 
Id/login name, then you have to click next before the password comes up.
Bookmarks are just that, they are bookmarks of websites and they are not 
password protected.
Identities is where you can have your own information like address, phone 
numbers, email addresses, social insurance number, passport number, credit card 
information, bank information and so on. You can also set up multiple 
Identities.
Contacts I don't use, but here you can enter information for Contacts and of 
course this will then be available on any of your devices where you use 
Roboform.
Safenotes are one of the things I use most apart from Logins. You can create a 
New
Safenote for whatever you want and type as much information as you want and 
these will be protected by your master password although I believe you can also 
set it up so you can have them not be protected if, for example, you want to 
just write down some information which is not important.
Then you also have a "Tools" submenu which includes a "Generat Password" 
option, this generates a random 16-character password with an option to copy it 
to the clipboard so you can easily use it when  you need a good password for a 
website.
There is also a "Energency Contact" option in the menu, it reads as as follows:

My Emergency Contacts (0)
I’m Emergency Contact For (0)
Trusted Emergency Contact can gain access to your RoboForm account data in case 
you forget your Master Password or in the events of death or incapacitation.
If a person you choose to be your Emergency Contact does not have a RoboForm 
account, we will ask them to create one FOR FREE.

There is more, but I don't have time now to go over everything, as I said, it's 
all pretty accessible and Roboform has been my password manager for over 15 
years, I think I started using it around 2005. I tried 1Password at some point, 
but it's like with me and Jaws and NVDA, I've been using Jaws for way too long 
and I am way too used to how it all works to change.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 2:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

How is the windows side do they have a windows app?  Is it Jaws accessible?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

Yes, they do have an iOS app and I find it quite accessible. Could it be 
better, there is always room for improvement, but I can open my SafeNotes and 
read their context or I can pick either Roboform or iCloud when I am trying to 
log in somewhere.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

Does Roboform have an iOS app?  Is it accessible?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News


I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size lim

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-25 Thread Dennis Long
How is the windows side do they have a windows app?  Is it Jaws accessible?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

Yes, they do have an iOS app and I find it quite accessible. Could it be 
better, there is always room for improvement, but I can open my SafeNotes and 
read their context or I can pick either Roboform or iCloud when I am trying to 
log in somewhere. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

Does Roboform have an iOS app?  Is it accessible?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.

 

I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:

 

The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The Verge 
<https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/22/18235173/the-best-hardware-security-keys-yubico-titan-key-u2f>
 

 

Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: Electronics 
<https://www.amazon.ca/Yubico-YubiKey-NFC-Authentication-USB/dp/B07HBD71HL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1E73BD6POHST6=yubikey=1674409683=yubico%2Caps%2C161=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzOU8wUUVST1RIQlpaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY2MTE3M0pJS0NIVkxaMUdNRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTczNDY3MUE0MDlPU0o5TEhSOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1>
 

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version w

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, they do have an iOS app and I find it quite accessible. Could it be 
better, there is always room for improvement, but I can open my SafeNotes and 
read their context or I can pick either Roboform or iCloud when I am trying to 
log in somewhere.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

Does Roboform have an iOS app?  Is it accessible?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News


I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.



I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:



The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The 
Verge<https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/22/18235173/the-best-hardware-security-keys-yubico-titan-key-u2f>



Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: 
Electronics<https://www.amazon.ca/Yubico-YubiKey-NFC-Authentication-USB/dp/B07HBD71HL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1E73BD6POHST6=yubikey=1674409683=yubico%2Caps%2C161=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzOU8wUUVST1RIQlpaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY2MTE3M0pJS0NIVkxaMUdNRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTczNDY3MUE0MDlPU0o5TEhSOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1>

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version with a Lightning port. I would certainly 
not buy a Lightning version now considering that next year it is highly likely 
that the Lightning port finally disappears in favour of a UsB-C port and USB-C 
is certainly the way forward at least for many years to come.





Best regards,

Sieghard





-Original Message-

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:52 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: How to set up

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-24 Thread Dennis Long
Does Roboform have an iOS app?  Is it accessible?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.

 

I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:

 

The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The Verge 
<https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/22/18235173/the-best-hardware-security-keys-yubico-titan-key-u2f>
 

 

Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: Electronics 
<https://www.amazon.ca/Yubico-YubiKey-NFC-Authentication-USB/dp/B07HBD71HL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1E73BD6POHST6=yubikey=1674409683=yubico%2Caps%2C161=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzOU8wUUVST1RIQlpaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY2MTE3M0pJS0NIVkxaMUdNRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTczNDY3MUE0MDlPU0o5TEhSOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1>
 

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version with a Lightning port. I would certainly 
not buy a Lightning version now considering that next year it is highly likely 
that the Lightning port finally disappears in favour of a UsB-C port and USB-C 
is certainly the way forward at least for many years to come.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:52 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

This is great feedback, Sieghard.  Thank you.

 

To tell you the truth, I'm kind of afraid to enable the feature for fear of 
losing the key.  

 

I believe that with OS 16.3 one can actually use some kind of physical recovery 
key, but as I have no idea of how this would work, I'm holding off on the 
feature, for now.

 

You, however, are a brave man, "Charlie Brown.&qu

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-22 Thread Mr. Ed
Hey Sieghard,

I knew it, your getting old. Now your misspelling things like I do. 藍

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

A small correction, I spelled "Yubiko" with a "k", the correct spelling is with 
a "c", so it should be "Yubico".

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.

 

I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:

 

The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The Verge 
<https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/22/18235173/the-best-hardware-security-keys-yubico-titan-key-u2f>
 

 

Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: Electronics 
<https://www.amazon.ca/Yubico-YubiKey-NFC-Authentication-USB/dp/B07HBD71HL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1E73BD6POHST6=yubikey=1674409683=yubico%2Caps%2C161=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzOU8wUUVST1RIQlpaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY2MTE3M0pJS0NIVkxaMUdNRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTczNDY3MUE0MDlPU0o5TEhSOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1>
 

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version with a Lightning port. I would certainly 
not buy a Lightning version now considering that next year it is highly likely 
that the Lightning port finally disappears in favour of a UsB-C port and USB-C 
is certainly the way forward at least for many years to come.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:5

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
A small correction, I spelled "Yubiko" with a "k", the correct spelling is with 
a "c", so it should be "Yubico".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News


I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.



I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:



The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The 
Verge<https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/22/18235173/the-best-hardware-security-keys-yubico-titan-key-u2f>



Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: 
Electronics<https://www.amazon.ca/Yubico-YubiKey-NFC-Authentication-USB/dp/B07HBD71HL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1E73BD6POHST6=yubikey=1674409683=yubico%2Caps%2C161=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzOU8wUUVST1RIQlpaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY2MTE3M0pJS0NIVkxaMUdNRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTczNDY3MUE0MDlPU0o5TEhSOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1>

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version with a Lightning port. I would certainly 
not buy a Lightning version now considering that next year it is highly likely 
that the Lightning port finally disappears in favour of a UsB-C port and USB-C 
is certainly the way forward at least for many years to come.





Best regards,

Sieghard





-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:52 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News



This is great feedback, Sieghard.  Thank you.



To tell you the truth, I'm kind of afraid to enable the feature for fear of 
losing the key.



I believe that with OS 16.3 one can actually use some kind of physical recovery 
key, but as I have no idea of how this would work, I'm holding off on t

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.



I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:



The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The 
Verge<https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/22/18235173/the-best-hardware-security-keys-yubico-titan-key-u2f>



Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: 
Electronics<https://www.amazon.ca/Yubico-YubiKey-NFC-Authentication-USB/dp/B07HBD71HL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1E73BD6POHST6=yubikey=1674409683=yubico%2Caps%2C161=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzOU8wUUVST1RIQlpaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY2MTE3M0pJS0NIVkxaMUdNRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTczNDY3MUE0MDlPU0o5TEhSOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1>

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version with a Lightning port. I would certainly 
not buy a Lightning version now considering that next year it is highly likely 
that the Lightning port finally disappears in favour of a UsB-C port and USB-C 
is certainly the way forward at least for many years to come.





Best regards,

Sieghard





-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:52 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News



This is great feedback, Sieghard.  Thank you.



To tell you the truth, I'm kind of afraid to enable the feature for fear of 
losing the key.



I believe that with OS 16.3 one can actually use some kind of physical recovery 
key, but as I have no idea of how this would work, I'm holding off on the 
feature, for now.



You, however, are a brave man, "Charlie Brown."  (smile).



Mark



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 1:08 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: How

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-21 Thread M. Taylor
This is great feedback, Sieghard.  Thank you.

To tell you the truth, I'm kind of afraid to enable the feature for fear of 
losing the key.  

I believe that with OS 16.3 one can actually use some kind of physical recovery 
key, but as I have no idea of how this would work, I'm holding off on the 
feature, for now.

You, however, are a brave man, "Charlie Brown."  (smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

I read your article and afterwards checked my iPhone 13 Pro and Advanced Data 
Protection is also available in Canada.
I turned it on, it asks you to set up a recovery contact although I don't think 
it forces you to do so, but if you do they will get a text message and have to 
tap on "Agree" before they are confirmed as a recovery contact.
Otherwise you do as far as I could tell set up a recovery key, it consists of a 
series of 28 random numbers and letters, 7 groups of 4 each. You have to write 
this down because once you tap on continue you have to re-enter that entire 
recovery key before it becomes active.
Lastly, after I was all done my Advanced Data protection was still off so I 
tapped on it again and I was then told that I still hadn't updated my iPad and 
Apple TV and since setting it up on one device then applies the encryption to 
all devices signed in to that Apple Id, they all have to be updated to the 
latest OS version.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your 
iCloud data, Mac Daily News

How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud 
data Wednesday, December 14, 2022 10:07 am 

By default, Apple’s iCloud secures your information by encrypting it when it’s 
in transit, storing it in an encrypted format, and securing your encryption 
keys in Apple data centers. In addition, many Apple services use end-to-end 
encryption; your information is encrypted using keys derived from your devices 
and your device passcode, which only you know. For the highest level of cloud 
data security, you can turn on Advanced Data Protection (iOS 16.2 or later 
required; available only in the U.S., currently).
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, not even Apple will not be access the 
data when it’s stored on the company’s servers.

Advanced Data Protection uses end-to-end encryption on more data categories 
such as the following:
• Device backup
• Messages backup
• iCloud Drive
• Notes
• Photos
• Reminders
• Safari bookmarks
• Siri Shortcuts
• Voice Memos
• Wallet passes

With Advanced Data Protection, your protected data can be decrypted only on 
your trusted devices, protecting your information even in the case of a data 
breach in the cloud. Not even Apple can access your information.

Before you turn on Advanced Data Protection, you’ll be guided to set up at 
least one alternative recovery method: a recovery contact or a recovery key. 
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, Apple doesn’t have the encryption keys 
needed to help you recover your end-to-end encrypted data. If you ever lose 
access to your account, you’ll need to use one of your account recovery methods 
— your device passcode or password, your recovery contact, or recovery key — to 
recover your iCloud data.
Your device passcode or password is the passcode on your iPhone or iPad, or the 
login password on your Mac that you set to protect your device and enable 
two-factor authentication. It’s also used to reset your Apple ID password and 
to recover your end-to-end encrypted data if you lose access to your account.
A recovery contact is a trusted friend or family member who can use their Apple 
device to help you regain access to your account and data. They won’t have any 
access to your account, only the ability to give you a code to help you recover 
your account. Learn more about recovery contacts.
A recovery key is a secret 28-character code that you can use, along with a 
trusted phone number and an Apple device, to recover your account and data. 
Learn more about recovery keys.

To turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, you need:
• An Apple ID with two-factor authentication.
• A passcode or password set for your device.
• At least one account recovery contact or recovery key. If you don’t already 
have one, you’ll be guided to set one up when you turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.
• Updated software on all of the devices where you’re signed in with your Apple 
ID:
iPhone with iOS 16.2
iPad with iPadOS 16.2
Mac with macOS 13.1
Apple Watch with watchOS 9.2
Apple TV with tvOS 16.2
HomePod with software version 16.2
Windows computer with iCl

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I read your article and afterwards checked my iPhone 13 Pro and Advanced Data 
Protection is also available in Canada.
I turned it on, it asks you to set up a recovery contact although I don't think 
it forces you to do so, but if you do they will get a text message and have to 
tap on "Agree" before they are confirmed as a recovery contact.
Otherwise you do as far as I could tell set up a recovery key, it consists of a 
series of 28 random numbers and letters, 7 groups of 4 each. You have to write 
this down because once you tap on continue you have to re-enter that entire 
recovery key before it becomes active.
Lastly, after I was all done my Advanced Data protection was still off so I 
tapped on it again and I was then told that I still hadn't updated my iPad and 
Apple TV and since setting it up on one device then applies the encryption to 
all devices signed in to that Apple Id, they all have to be updated to the 
latest OS version.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your 
iCloud data, Mac Daily News

How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud 
data Wednesday, December 14, 2022 10:07 am 

By default, Apple’s iCloud secures your information by encrypting it when it’s 
in transit, storing it in an encrypted format, and securing your encryption 
keys in Apple data centers. In addition, many Apple services use end-to-end 
encryption; your information is encrypted using keys derived from your devices 
and your device passcode, which only you know. For the highest level of cloud 
data security, you can turn on Advanced Data Protection (iOS 16.2 or later 
required; available only in the U.S., currently).
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, not even Apple will not be access the 
data when it’s stored on the company’s servers.

Advanced Data Protection uses end-to-end encryption on more data categories 
such as the following:
• Device backup
• Messages backup
• iCloud Drive
• Notes
• Photos
• Reminders
• Safari bookmarks
• Siri Shortcuts
• Voice Memos
• Wallet passes

With Advanced Data Protection, your protected data can be decrypted only on 
your trusted devices, protecting your information even in the case of a data 
breach in the cloud. Not even Apple can access your information.

Before you turn on Advanced Data Protection, you’ll be guided to set up at 
least one alternative recovery method: a recovery contact or a recovery key. 
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, Apple doesn’t have the encryption keys 
needed to help you recover your end-to-end encrypted data. If you ever lose 
access to your account, you’ll need to use one of your account recovery methods 
— your device passcode or password, your recovery contact, or recovery key — to 
recover your iCloud data.
Your device passcode or password is the passcode on your iPhone or iPad, or the 
login password on your Mac that you set to protect your device and enable 
two-factor authentication. It’s also used to reset your Apple ID password and 
to recover your end-to-end encrypted data if you lose access to your account.
A recovery contact is a trusted friend or family member who can use their Apple 
device to help you regain access to your account and data. They won’t have any 
access to your account, only the ability to give you a code to help you recover 
your account. Learn more about recovery contacts.
A recovery key is a secret 28-character code that you can use, along with a 
trusted phone number and an Apple device, to recover your account and data. 
Learn more about recovery keys.

To turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, you need:
• An Apple ID with two-factor authentication.
• A passcode or password set for your device.
• At least one account recovery contact or recovery key. If you don’t already 
have one, you’ll be guided to set one up when you turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.
• Updated software on all of the devices where you’re signed in with your Apple 
ID:
iPhone with iOS 16.2
iPad with iPadOS 16.2
Mac with macOS 13.1
Apple Watch with watchOS 9.2
Apple TV with tvOS 16.2
HomePod with software version 16.2
Windows computer with iCloud for Windows 14.1 Managed Apple IDs and child 
accounts are not eligible for Advanced Data Protection.

How to turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud:
You can turn on Advanced Data Protection on an iPhone with iOS 16.2, iPad with 
iPad OS 16.2, or a Mac with macOS 13.1. Turning on Advanced Data Protection on 
one device enables it for your entire account and all your compatible devices.

On iPhone or iPad:
1. Open the Settings app.
2. Tap your name, then tap iCloud.
3. Scroll down, tap Advanced Data Protection, then tap Turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.
4. Follow the onscreen instructions to review your recovery methods and enable 
Advanced Data Protectio

How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

2023-01-20 Thread M. Taylor
How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud 
data
Wednesday, December 14, 2022 10:07 am 

By default, Apple’s iCloud secures your information by encrypting it when it’s 
in transit, storing it in an encrypted format, and securing your encryption 
keys in Apple data centers. In addition, many Apple services use end-to-end 
encryption; your information is encrypted using keys derived from your devices 
and your device passcode, which only you know. For the highest level of cloud 
data security, you can turn on Advanced Data Protection (iOS 16.2 or later 
required; available only in the U.S., currently).
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, not even Apple will not be access the 
data when it’s stored on the company’s servers.

Advanced Data Protection uses end-to-end encryption on more data categories 
such as the following:
• Device backup
• Messages backup
• iCloud Drive
• Notes
• Photos
• Reminders
• Safari bookmarks
• Siri Shortcuts
• Voice Memos
• Wallet passes

With Advanced Data Protection, your protected data can be decrypted only on 
your trusted devices, protecting your information even in the case of a data 
breach in the cloud. Not even Apple can access your information.

Before you turn on Advanced Data Protection, you’ll be guided to set up at 
least one alternative recovery method: a recovery contact or a recovery key. 
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, Apple doesn’t have the encryption keys 
needed to help you recover your end-to-end encrypted data. If you ever lose 
access to your account, you’ll need to use one of your account recovery methods 
— your device passcode or password, your recovery contact, or recovery key — to 
recover your iCloud data.
Your device passcode or password is the passcode on your iPhone or iPad, or the 
login password on your Mac that you set to protect your device and enable 
two-factor authentication. It’s also used to reset your Apple ID password and 
to recover your end-to-end encrypted data if you lose access to your account.
A recovery contact is a trusted friend or family member who can use their Apple 
device to help you regain access to your account and data. They won’t have any 
access to your account, only the ability to give you a code to help you recover 
your account. Learn more about recovery contacts.
A recovery key is a secret 28-character code that you can use, along with a 
trusted phone number and an Apple device, to recover your account and data. 
Learn more about recovery keys.

To turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, you need:
• An Apple ID with two-factor authentication.
• A passcode or password set for your device.
• At least one account recovery contact or recovery key. If you don’t already 
have one, you’ll be guided to set one up when you turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.
• Updated software on all of the devices where you’re signed in with your Apple 
ID:
iPhone with iOS 16.2
iPad with iPadOS 16.2
Mac with macOS 13.1
Apple Watch with watchOS 9.2
Apple TV with tvOS 16.2
HomePod with software version 16.2
Windows computer with iCloud for Windows 14.1
Managed Apple IDs and child accounts are not eligible for Advanced Data 
Protection.

How to turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud:
You can turn on Advanced Data Protection on an iPhone with iOS 16.2, iPad with 
iPad OS 16.2, or a Mac with macOS 13.1. Turning on Advanced Data Protection on 
one device enables it for your entire account and all your compatible devices.

On iPhone or iPad:
1. Open the Settings app.
2. Tap your name, then tap iCloud.
3. Scroll down, tap Advanced Data Protection, then tap Turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.
4. Follow the onscreen instructions to review your recovery methods and enable 
Advanced Data Protection.

On Mac:
1. Choose Apple menu  > System Settings.
2. Click your name, then click iCloud.
3. Click Advanced Data Protection, then click Turn On.
4. Follow the onscreen instructions to review your recovery methods and enable 
Advanced Data Protection.

WARNING: If you use Advanced Data Protection, you’re responsible for your data 
recovery. Because Apple won’t have the keys required to recover your data, 
you’ll need to have a Recovery Contact or Recovery Key set up on your account. 
You can use these additional recovery methods to regain access to your data if 
you ever forget your password or lose access to your account.

Note: If you choose to turn off Advanced Data Protection later, your iCloud 
data will revert to the standard level of security.

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Re: iCloud Email Account?

2022-11-27 Thread TaraPrakash
Not sure if anything changed off late but  The following steps may help  
On your iPhone go to settings. Double tap on mails. Double tap on accounts. And 
then double tab on add a new account. Here, one of the options will be add an 
iCloud account. You will have to enter your Apple ID.   

Sent from my iPhone

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> Can I make an iCloud email account? If yes, how can it be done, please?
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Re: iCloud Email Account?

2022-11-27 Thread Alex Stone
I don’t claim to be any sort of expert, but I think you can just go to 
http://iCloud.com and do it there.

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iCloud Email Account?

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Goodmorning!

Can I make an iCloud email account? If yes, how can it be done, please?

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Apple says 95% of iCloud users already have 2FA enabled ahead of Passkeys launch, 9 to 5 Mac

2022-08-28 Thread M. Taylor
9to5Mac - Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 9:37 AM
Apple says 95% of iCloud users already have 2FA enabled ahead of Passkeys
launch

With its next round of software updates coming this fall, including iOS 16
and macOS Ventura, Apple will launch integrated support for the passkeys
standard. The passkey standard is described as unique digital keys designed
to replace the need for passwords altogether with streamlined sign-in across
your devices, websites, and apps.

When Passkeys is launched as part of iOS 16, macOS Ventura, and iPadOS 16,
they will require that users also have two-factor authentication enabled on
their Apple account. In preparation for this, Apple has shared details with
9to5Mac on the adoption of 2FA among iCloud users for the first time.

What are passkeys?
Passwords are one of the weakest links in digital security today. Many
people will choose a password and then use it across every app, website, or
service they sign into. Passwords can also be leaked in database breaches,
obtained via phishing attacks, and much more. Passkeys address these issues
and let users transition to a completely password-less lifestyle using
public key cryptography.

Apple's support for the passkey standard was announced at WWDC in June. As
we've explained in the past, passkeys replace your password with a digital
key that is unique to your account. This digital key stays on the device, is
end-to-end encrypted, and is never stored on a web server. Each passkey you
create is unique to that app, website, or service.

Passkeys are an extension of the FIDO Standard feature that Apple
implemented as part of iOS 15 and macOS 12 last year. The FIDO Standard
feature, however, requires the user to log into each app or website on each
device before enabling a password-less sign-in method. Passkeys remove that
step and allow users to transition to a password-less login method
altogether.
 
Apple's existing support for biometric logins also extends to passkeys,
allowing you to authenticate with Face ID or Touch ID. This makes passkeys
stronger than all other regularly used types of two-factor authentication.

The flow for logging in with a passkey will work similarly to using iCloud
Keychain and Face ID or Touch ID. The difference, of course, is that,
instead of choosing a credential from iCloud Keychain and autofilling your
password and username into text fields, you'll choose (or create) a passkey
as your login method. Passkeys are synced across your devices using iCloud
Keychain with end-to-end encryption, so even Apple can't view the
information.

What about logging into apps or services on a non-Apple device? Because
passkeys are based on the FIDO Standard, cross-platform support is built
right in. The other non-Apple device will generate a QR Code that can be
read by your iPhone or iPad. iOS then uses Face ID or Touch ID to confirm
that it's you who's trying to sign in. Then, it will confirm or deny the
request to the app or website running on the other device.

Adoption of 2FA among Apple users
The use of passkeys in iOS 16 and macOS Ventura will require that you also
have two-factor authentication enabled for your iCloud account, adding
another layer of protection. While this may sound like a roadblock that
could inhibit the adoption of passkeys among users, Apple says this won't be
the case.

Apple confirmed to 9to5Mac exclusively that over 95% of active iCloud users
already have two-factor authentication enabled on their accounts. This is an
impressive achievement by Apple as part of its efforts to protect users
across their devices and accounts.
 
There are, of course, many features that require you have two-factor
authentication enabled to use them, helping spur adoption of the security
feature. For instance, using an Apple Card or Apple Cash requires that
two-factor authentication be enabled. Enabling iCloud Keychain for syncing
things like passwords and credit card numbers across your devices also
requires that two-factor authentication be enabled for your account.

Apple has continued to expand the number of features and services that
require two-factor authentication as well. For instance, AirTags also
require that 2FA be enabled on your account, as does the new Universal
Control feature as well as syncing iMessage.
If you're one of the few iCloud users who does not have two-factor
authentication enabled on your account, it's quick and easy to enable it
using Apple's guide.
Requiring two-factor authentication be enabled for features such as these
significantly helps boost adoption of the security feature among Apple
users. It's actually a pretty smart strategy by Apple to create these
incentives. In fact, we'd wager that doing that use of 2FA for Apple IDs is
higher than other competing platforms for this exact reason.

When will you be able to use passkeys?
 
Since this is a new API, passkeys requires developers to update their apps
and websites to support the new standard. This means it won't be an instant

Re: Connecting iCloud email to outlook

2022-08-03 Thread Kliph
Add your outlook email as a contact point, then you can use it as a iMessage or 
FaceTime call.

> On Jul 28, 2022, at 1:45 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> what are the steps for connecting iCloud.com email to Outlook?
> 
> thx,
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what are the steps for connecting iCloud.com email to Outlook?

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Re: Icloud

2022-06-09 Thread Barbara Stahl
Thank you.

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On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 12:03 PM Anthony Vece  wrote:

> Hi Barbara; it could be a little tricky. Call Apple Accessibility and they
> will guide you through it. Believe me, it’s a lot easier.
>  877-204-3930
> Take care
> Anthony
>
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>
> On Jun 9, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Barbara Stahl 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Is there a way to delete stuff out of your iCloud account or drive I keep
> getting notifications that my iCloud Drive is almost full and mostly what
> it is full of is back ups so how do I get rid of the older backups from
> years ago
>
> On May 29, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Alison,
>
> In order to check how you're using iCloud storage, with your iPhone, go to
> Settings, Apple ID, iCloud, and Manage storage. It will show you what apps
> are using how much storage and will also give you the option to sign up for
> more than the free 5GB amount.
>
> Good luck sorting your music out.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 29, 2022, at 8:57 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few
> photos and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB
> Easyreader currently on the iPhone.
>
> But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently
> have a disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost the
> 5,000 plus songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!
>
> I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Michael Feir
> *Sent:* 29 May 2022 14:01
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Icloud
>
>
>
> The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you
> create. Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count
> against your iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might
> purchase. You create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space.
> Ebooks and other goods you purchase from alternative sources will count
> against your iCloud space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud.
> Therefore, any books you have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud
> space.
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen 
> wrote:
>
> Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some
> of them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that
> you don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.
>
> Donna
>
> >
> > On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it
> was unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to
> upgrade. How can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the upgrade?
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
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Re: Icloud

2022-06-09 Thread Anthony Vece
Hi Barbara; it could be a little tricky. Call Apple Accessibility and they will 
guide you through it. Believe me, it’s a lot easier.
 877-204-3930
Take care 
Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Jun 9, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is there a way to delete stuff out of your iCloud account or drive I keep 
> getting notifications that my iCloud Drive is almost full and mostly what it 
> is full of is back ups so how do I get rid of the older backups from years ago
> 
>>> On May 29, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Alison, 
>> 
>> In order to check how you're using iCloud storage, with your iPhone, go to 
>> Settings, Apple ID, iCloud, and Manage storage. It will show you what apps 
>> are using how much storage and will also give you the option to sign up for 
>> more than the free 5GB amount. 
>> 
>> Good luck sorting your music out. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 29, 2022, at 8:57 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few 
>>> photos and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB 
>>> Easyreader currently on the iPhone.
>>> But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently 
>>> have a disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost the 
>>> 5,000 plus songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!
>>> I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.
>>> Alison
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: 29 May 2022 14:01
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Icloud
>>>  
>>> The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you 
>>> create. Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count 
>>> against your iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might 
>>> purchase. You create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space. 
>>> Ebooks and other goods you purchase from alternative sources will count 
>>> against your iCloud space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud. 
>>> Therefore, any books you have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud 
>>> space.
>>>  
>>> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen  
>>> wrote:
>>> Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some 
>>> of them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that 
>>> you don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it 
>>> > was unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to 
>>> > upgrade. How can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the 
>>> > upgrade?
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Re: Icloud

2022-06-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
Yes. To delete older backups, go into settings, Apple ID, iCloud,
Manage Storage, and then Backups. You should be able to choose a
backup and then choose delete. You may get a warning message, but if
it is an older backup you no longer need, then there's o harm in
deleting it. I usually keep backups about a week after getting a new
device and then I delete them. Otherwise, they just take up space.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 6/9/22, Barbara Stahl  wrote:
> Is there a way to delete stuff out of your iCloud account or drive I keep
> getting notifications that my iCloud Drive is almost full and mostly what it
> is full of is back ups so how do I get rid of the older backups from years
> ago
>
>> On May 29, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi Alison,
>>
>> In order to check how you're using iCloud storage, with your iPhone, go to
>> Settings, Apple ID, iCloud, and Manage storage. It will show you what apps
>> are using how much storage and will also give you the option to sign up
>> for more than the free 5GB amount.
>>
>> Good luck sorting your music out.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On May 29, 2022, at 8:57 AM, CJ & AA MAY 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few
>>> photos and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB
>>> Easyreader currently on the iPhone.
>>> But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently
>>> have a disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost
>>> the 5,000 plus songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!
>>> I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.
>>> Alison
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: 29 May 2022 14:01
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Icloud
>>>
>>> The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you
>>> create. Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count
>>> against your iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you
>>> might purchase. You create photos and documents so they take up iCloud
>>> space. Ebooks and other goods you purchase from alternative sources will
>>> count against your iCloud space presuming the apps you use back up to
>>> iCloud. Therefore, any books you have in Voice Dream REader will take up
>>> iCloud space.
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen 
>>> wrote:
>>> Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some
>>> of them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that
>>> you don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> >
>>> > On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and
>>> > it was unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to
>>> > upgrade. How can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the
>>> > upgrade?
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: Icloud

2022-06-09 Thread Barbara Stahl
Is there a way to delete stuff out of your iCloud account or drive I keep 
getting notifications that my iCloud Drive is almost full and mostly what it is 
full of is back ups so how do I get rid of the older backups from years ago

> On May 29, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Alison, 
> 
> In order to check how you're using iCloud storage, with your iPhone, go to 
> Settings, Apple ID, iCloud, and Manage storage. It will show you what apps 
> are using how much storage and will also give you the option to sign up for 
> more than the free 5GB amount. 
> 
> Good luck sorting your music out. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 29, 2022, at 8:57 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few 
>> photos and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB 
>> Easyreader currently on the iPhone.
>> But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently 
>> have a disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost the 
>> 5,000 plus songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!
>> I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.
>> Alison
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: 29 May 2022 14:01
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Icloud
>>  
>> The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you create. 
>> Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count against your 
>> iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might purchase. You 
>> create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space. Ebooks and other 
>> goods you purchase from alternative sources will count against your iCloud 
>> space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud. Therefore, any books you 
>> have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud space.
>>  
>> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some of 
>> them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that you 
>> don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> > 
>> > On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it 
>> > was unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to 
>> > upgrade. How can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the 
>> > upgrade?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
>> > 0777 315 8181
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RE: Icloud

2022-05-29 Thread CJ & AA MAY
Thank you for these directions. I’ll take a look.

I have deleted much of the music on my iPhone, which I seldom played anyway. 
Luckily, my husband has been able to restore my iTunes Library as it would have 
been adisaster had it been permanently lost.

Alison

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: 29 May 2022 17:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Icloud

 

Hi Alison, 

 

In order to check how you're using iCloud storage, with your iPhone, go to 
Settings, Apple ID, iCloud, and Manage storage. It will show you what apps are 
using how much storage and will also give you the option to sign up for more 
than the free 5GB amount. 

 

Good luck sorting your music out. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On May 29, 2022, at 8:57 AM, CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few photos 
and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB Easyreader 
currently on the iPhone.

But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently have a 
disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost the 5,000 plus 
songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!

I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.

Alison

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: 29 May 2022 14:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Icloud

 

The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you create. 
Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count against your 
iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might purchase. You 
create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space. Ebooks and other 
goods you purchase from alternative sources will count against your iCloud 
space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud. Therefore, any books you 
have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud space.

 

On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some of 
them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that you 
don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.

Donna

> 
> On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it was 
> unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to upgrade. How 
> can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the upgrade?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
> 0777 315 8181
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Re: Icloud

2022-05-29 Thread Donna Casteen
If you have an iPad all of the apps & the content of each app is also backed up 
to the same 5Gigs of Free iCloud storage. I can't say for certain, but I 
suspect the same may hold true if you use a Mac computer.

Donna
 
> 
> 
> I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few 
> photos and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB Easyreader 
> currently on the iPhone.
> But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently have 
> a disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost the 5,000 
> plus songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!
> I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.
> Alison
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: 29 May 2022 14:01
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Icloud
>  
> The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you create. 
> Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count against your 
> iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might purchase. You 
> create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space. Ebooks and other 
> goods you purchase from alternative sources will count against your iCloud 
> space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud. Therefore, any books you 
> have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud space.
>  
> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen  wrote:
> Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some of 
> them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that you 
> don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.
> 
> Donna
> 
> > 
> > On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it 
> > was unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to 
> > upgrade. How can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the upgrade?
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
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Re: Icloud

2022-05-29 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Alison, 

In order to check how you're using iCloud storage, with your iPhone, go to 
Settings, Apple ID, iCloud, and Manage storage. It will show you what apps are 
using how much storage and will also give you the option to sign up for more 
than the free 5GB amount. 

Good luck sorting your music out. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2022, at 8:57 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> 
> I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few 
> photos and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB Easyreader 
> currently on the iPhone.
> But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently have 
> a disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost the 5,000 
> plus songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!
> I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.
> Alison
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: 29 May 2022 14:01
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Icloud
>  
> The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you create. 
> Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count against your 
> iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might purchase. You 
> create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space. Ebooks and other 
> goods you purchase from alternative sources will count against your iCloud 
> space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud. Therefore, any books you 
> have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud space.
>  
> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen  wrote:
> Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some of 
> them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that you 
> don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.
> 
> Donna
> 
> > 
> > On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it 
> > was unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to 
> > upgrade. How can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the upgrade?
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
> > 0777 315 8181
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RE: Icloud

2022-05-29 Thread CJ & AA MAY
I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few photos 
and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB Easyreader 
currently on the iPhone.

But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently have a 
disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost the 5,000 plus 
songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!

I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.

Alison

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: 29 May 2022 14:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Icloud

 

The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you create. 
Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count against your 
iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might purchase. You 
create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space. Ebooks and other 
goods you purchase from alternative sources will count against your iCloud 
space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud. Therefore, any books you 
have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud space.

 

On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some of 
them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that you 
don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.

Donna

> 
> On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it was 
> unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to upgrade. How 
> can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the upgrade?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
> 0777 315 8181
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Re: Icloud

2022-05-29 Thread Michael Feir
The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you
create. Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count
against your iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might
purchase. You create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space.
Ebooks and other goods you purchase from alternative sources will count
against your iCloud space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud.
Therefore, any books you have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud
space.

On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen 
wrote:

> Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some
> of them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that
> you don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.
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> Donna
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Re: Icloud

2022-05-29 Thread Donna Casteen
Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some of 
them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that you 
don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.

Donna
 
> 
> On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it was 
> unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to upgrade. How 
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Icloud

2022-05-29 Thread Alison May
On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it was 
unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to upgrade. How 
can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the upgrade?


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How to Share Your iCloud Storage With a Friend or Family Member, Simple Help

2022-04-09 Thread M. Taylor
How to Share Your iCloud Storage With a Friend or Family Member, Simple Help
Posted: 08 April 2022 06:56 PM PDT 

This step by step guide shows you how to give permission to a friend or
family member to share your iCloud Drive storage space so they can save and
access their own files on it. 
Here's a scenario for you - you've got an iCloud+ account (a paid iCloud
subscription) and your friend doesn't. They're running low on their free 5GB
of iCloud storage space and desperately needs more (and probably getting
constant emails from Apple telling them their iCloud storage is almost
full). Why not share some of your extra space with them? Although Apple
refers to this as "Family Sharing" - there's absolutely no reason you can't
share your iCloud storage with a friend, roommate, co-worker or other
acquaintance. 

Following the steps outlined below you'll be able to grant permission for a
friend, roommate, co-worker OR family member to use your iCloud storage
space to save their own photos and data. It's very important to note that
no, they will not be able to access your iCloud data and you will not be
able to access theirs. 

>From the official Family Sharing guide by Apple, 
Everyone's personal files and preferences stay private. When you share
iCloud+, family members can't see each others' photos, files, or documents.

For the sake of this guide we're going to use an iPhone to complete all of
the required steps. You can do this on an iPad and the steps will be almost
identical. You can also do it on your Mac via the Family Sharing icon in the
System Preferences and while though steps are quite different, you should
still be able to follow along. 
1.  The first step is to setup Family Sharing itself. This is an Apple
feature/service that allows you to share various services and subscriptions
with "family" members (remember - that can include friends, roommates,
co-workers etc). Although there are lots of things you can share, we're only
going to cover iCloud storage - feel free to check out all the other options
and settings once you're done. 

2.  Start out by tapping the Settings icon. 
 
3.  Select your Profile (directly below the word Settings). 
 
4.  Choose Family Sharing from the list of options. 
 
5.  Tap the + Add Member link. 
 
6.  A Invite People to Your Family window will appear - select the
Invite People button inside of that window. 
 
7.  If the person is right next to you with an iPhone/iPad you can use
AirDrop to send the "invitation" link, otherwise tap the Mail icon. 
 
8.  Enter the email address of the person you want to allow to use your
iCloud storage space, and give the email a subject (or enter a short
message) so they know why you're sending a long and slightly strange looking
link. 
 
9.  When the person you invite opens the link in the email they'll be
invited to join your "family" - tell them to tap the Join Family button. 
 
10. Then they just have to tap the Done button and that's it - they
don't need to do anything else. 
 
11. Now that your friend is a member of your "family", you can share
your iCloud storage with them. Once again open your iPhone/iPad Settings and
select your Profile. 
 
12. Choose Family Sharing again. 
 
13. This time scroll down to the MORE TO SHARE section and select the
iCloud+ option. 
 
14. When prompted, tap the Share iCloud+ With Family button. 
 
15. That's it. Tap the Close button. 
 
16. Now return to Family Sharing - this time you'll see a new section
titled SHARED WITH YOUR FAMILY and inside of it an item named iCloud+ -
select it. 
 
17. From here you'll see a list of the people using your iCloud storage
(iCloud+) and how much space each person is using. 
 
18. After you've given your friend permission to use your iCloud
storage, they can return to their iCloud settings and see that the amount of
usable storage space has increased to whatever your plan includes. You're a
good friend! 
 
19. In addition to via your iPhone/iPad, you can manage friends (users)
via the System Preferences on a Mac. I'm not sure why you can't manage users
via the web, for now it's via iOS and macOS only. 
 
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Re: Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

2022-03-14 Thread Gerardo Corripio
as soon as you first power on your new toy, (phone), it'll ask you that there's 
a phone from which data can be transferred. Follow the steps, and in no time at 
all, you'll have everything on the new IPhone! You'll be surprised that (at 
least in my case), you'll hardly need to log-in to apps, and your music will be 
on your new phone too! Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 13 mar 2022, a la(s) 9:23 p.m., Dennis Long  
> escribió:
> 
> Your best bet will be to do a phone to phone transfer.
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi.
>>  
>> Tomorrow, I’m getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current 
>> phone backed up in iCloud. I’d like this to be on my new phone. What do I do 
>> to get this working?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>  
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Re: Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

2022-03-13 Thread Dennis Long
Your best bet will be to do a phone to phone transfer.



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Mar 13, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
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> Hi.
>  
> Tomorrow, I’m getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current 
> phone backed up in iCloud. I’d like this to be on my new phone. What do I do 
> to get this working?
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Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

2022-03-13 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

Tomorrow, I'm getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current phone 
backed up in iCloud. I'd like this to be on my new phone. What do I do to get 
this working?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Deleting all backups from Icloud

2022-01-13 Thread Ketan Kothari
Hi friends,


Unfortunately, in my stocks app somehow all the major indices from
India have disappered somehow.  I tried deleting and reinstalling the
app.  Now I am wondering as to get all the data back.  When I
reinstall the old things return.  I feel that I should delete all the
backups from Icloud.  How do I do that?  or, is there any other way
out?  Please do help.

With best wishes,

Ketan

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Re: iCloud space

2021-11-30 Thread Kay Malmquist
Yup, sure enough it now shows up that way.  I figured   it would and wasn't 
really to worried about it.

Kay Malmquist
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 5:06 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud space


  Mine shows iCloud plus 50 gb.
  If it doesn't show up in a little while, I'd call Apple.





  Richard


  “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
  website:  www.turner42.com


  (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:



I did that and it was called iCloud plus.  I chose the 50 gig plan. 
When I finished setting that up, it still showed that I only had 5 gig of 
space.  Does that take a while to show up?

Kay Malmquist
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Clement
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud space


  Hi,


  Go to:


  Settings / your-name / icloud / manage storage / change storage plan


  Then choose the plan that suits your iCloud storage needs. This 
becomes a monthly subscription charge to your Apple account.


  Note - if you do not already have an iCloud storage plan, you may not 
get the "change storage plan" option but you will get something comparable. 
I do currently have a storage plan so I don't know the exact way it is 
presented to brand new subscribers.


  Hope this helps,


  Dave Clement
  Winnipeg MB

  On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:


  
  This is from an old message, but how do you buy more space for iCloud 
storage?

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to 
tell anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to 
their shining - just shine.
  Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space


Also Kay,

If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 
50 GB of iCloud space for 99¢ a month.


HTH,




Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished


Web site: www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud space


Richard,

Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super 
day.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com


"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM

      Subject: RE: iCloud space


  First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug 
a phone in that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.


  You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap 
on your name.


  Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.

  Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.


  If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it 
offers a chance to just leave it on the phone, do that.

  I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has 
backed up already.


  Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.

  HTH,




  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished


  Web site: www.turner42.com


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: iCloud space


  Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still 
trying to decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like 
that on to the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery 
level was low, so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered 
downstairs and discovered that it was t

Re: iCloud space

2021-11-30 Thread Richard Turner
Mine shows iCloud plus 50 gb.
If it doesn't show up in a little while, I'd call Apple.



Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


I did that and it was called iCloud plus.  I chose the 50 gig plan.  When I 
finished setting that up, it still showed that I only had 5 gig of space.  Does 
that take a while to show up?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message -
From: Dave Clement<mailto:dclem...@mymts.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: iCloud space

Hi,

Go to:

Settings / your-name / icloud / manage storage / change storage plan

Then choose the plan that suits your iCloud storage needs. This becomes a 
monthly subscription charge to your Apple account.

Note - if you do not already have an iCloud storage plan, you may not get the 
"change storage plan" option but you will get something comparable. I do 
currently have a storage plan so I don't know the exact way it is presented to 
brand new subscribers.

Hope this helps,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


This is from an old message, but how do you buy more space for iCloud storage?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space

Also Kay,
If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB of 
iCloud space for 99¢ a month.
HTH,
Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished
Web site: 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C0995ae3451a648453d2208d9b4555127%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637739100805367683%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=tmtuQOYdfsap2znafdXEGXoehvFXIIU%2Bv9NRlkkIFT4%3D=0>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iCloud space
Richard,
Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space
First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.
You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your name.
Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.
If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
to just leave it on the phone, do that.
I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.
Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
HTH,
Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished
Web site: 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C0995ae3451a648453d2208d9b4555127%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637739100805377640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=tl4Bc%2FEglUM3qq4G1tSfU6shfTnAvyftKNeiRqeKJu8%3D=0>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iCloud space
Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to the 
new phone.  Yesterday my husb

Re: iCloud space

2021-11-30 Thread Kay Malmquist
I did that and it was called iCloud plus.  I chose the 50 gig plan.  When I 
finished setting that up, it still showed that I only had 5 gig of space. 
Does that take a while to show up?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Clement
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud space


  Hi,


  Go to:


  Settings / your-name / icloud / manage storage / change storage plan


  Then choose the plan that suits your iCloud storage needs. This becomes a 
monthly subscription charge to your Apple account.


  Note - if you do not already have an iCloud storage plan, you may not get 
the "change storage plan" option but you will get something comparable. I do 
currently have a storage plan so I don't know the exact way it is presented 
to brand new subscribers.


  Hope this helps,


  Dave Clement
  Winnipeg MB

  On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:


  
  This is from an old message, but how do you buy more space for iCloud 
storage?

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
  Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space


Also Kay,

If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 
GB of iCloud space for 99¢ a month.


HTH,




Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished


Web site: www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud space


Richard,

Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com


"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM

  Subject: RE: iCloud space


  First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a 
phone in that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.


  You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on 
your name.


  Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.

  Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.


  If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a 
chance to just leave it on the phone, do that.

  I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed 
up already.


  Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.

  HTH,




  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished


  Web site: www.turner42.com


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: iCloud space


  Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still 
trying to decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like 
that on to the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery 
level was low, so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered 
downstairs and discovered that it was turned on and plugged in.  Of course 
it had tried to back up and unload all of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is 
a message saying that there is not enough space in my iCloud account to back 
up everything on this phone and I should go to settings to manage my 
account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone to back up to iCloud 
because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, how do I manage 
this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, until I 
decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off before 
charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com


  "Where focus goes, energy flows."
  Bob Proctor

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Re: iCloud space

2021-11-30 Thread Richard Turner
Settings, Double tap on your name.
Double tap on iCloud, double tap on manage storage; double tap on either change 
plan or Add, not sure what it will say for you.



Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Nov 30, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:


Hi,

Go to:

Settings / your-name / icloud / manage storage / change storage plan

Then choose the plan that suits your iCloud storage needs. This becomes a 
monthly subscription charge to your Apple account.

Note - if you do not already have an iCloud storage plan, you may not get the 
"change storage plan" option but you will get something comparable. I do 
currently have a storage plan so I don't know the exact way it is presented to 
brand new subscribers.

Hope this helps,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


This is from an old message, but how do you buy more space for iCloud storage?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space

Also Kay,
If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB of 
iCloud space for 99¢ a month.
HTH,
Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished
Web site: 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cf014220110394752b6bf08d9b45401ca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637739095180909587%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=wV0Akjeq%2FGE5CKnK7oeLXvCuV6%2B5FOYR2yXzR4ve224%3D=0>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iCloud space
Richard,
Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space
First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.
You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your name.
Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.
If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
to just leave it on the phone, do that.
I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.
Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
HTH,
Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished
Web site: 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cf014220110394752b6bf08d9b45401ca%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637739095180919540%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=8PIUb%2FxK%2BXiPhe62XLIecPc3SdYEBObNlxOnzbagVrM%3D=0>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iCloud space
Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to the 
new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was low, so he 
plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and discovered that it 
was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to back up and unload all 
of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message saying that there is not enough 
space in my iCloud account to back up everything on this phone and I should go 
to settings to manage my account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone 
to back up to iCloud because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, 
how do I manage this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, 
until I decide wheth

Re: iCloud space

2021-11-30 Thread Dave Clement
Hi, 

Go to:

Settings / your-name / icloud / manage storage / change storage plan

Then choose the plan that suits your iCloud storage needs. This becomes a 
monthly subscription charge to your Apple account. 

Note - if you do not already have an iCloud storage plan, you may not get the 
"change storage plan" option but you will get something comparable. I do 
currently have a storage plan so I don't know the exact way it is presented to 
brand new subscribers. 

Hope this helps,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


This is from an old message, but how do you buy more space for iCloud storage?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher 
 
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space

Also Kay,
If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB of 
iCloud space for 99¢ a month.
HTH,
Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud space
Richard,
Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space
First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.
You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your name.
Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.
If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
to just leave it on the phone, do that.
I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.
Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
HTH,
Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud space
Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to the 
new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was low, so he 
plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and discovered that it 
was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to back up and unload all 
of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message saying that there is not enough 
space in my iCloud account to back up everything on this phone and I should go 
to settings to manage my account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone 
to back up to iCloud because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, 
how do I manage this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, 
until I decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off 
before charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
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Re: iCloud space

2021-11-30 Thread Kay Malmquist
This is from an old message, but how do you buy more space for iCloud 
storage?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:04 AM
  Subject: RE: iCloud space


  Also Kay,

  If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB 
of iCloud space for 99¢ a month.



  HTH,







  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished



  Web site: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iCloud space



  Richard,

  Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  "Where focus goes, energy flows."
  Bob Proctor

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM

Subject: RE: iCloud space



First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a 
phone in that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.



You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on 
your name.



Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.

Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.



If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a 
chance to just leave it on the phone, do that.

I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.



Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.

HTH,







Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: iCloud space



Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still 
trying to decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like 
that on to the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery 
level was low, so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered 
downstairs and discovered that it was turned on and plugged in.  Of course 
it had tried to back up and unload all of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is 
a message saying that there is not enough space in my iCloud account to back 
up everything on this phone and I should go to settings to manage my 
account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone to back up to iCloud 
because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, how do I manage 
this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, until I 
decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off before 
charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

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RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Carolyn
That is the only way I have ever done it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

What do you know, you are correct, I just tried this on my iPhone 11, I pressed 
volume up, then volume down and then I pressed the side button and held it for 
a moment and the Power off screen came up and focus was actually on the Power 
Off button, so this is actually not a bad way to do this at all.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: November 21, 2021 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen where 
I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button and 
released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then pressed 
the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it even said 
power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen had come up. 
However, if when following the above procedure I held down the side button for 
about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed restart.
Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it to 
a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone and 
a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it in 
its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for it. 
My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 percent but 
still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery might last a 
few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching will often, but 
not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and it never lasts 
more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the battery for that 
phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how long it will last, 
sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and then going down to 
zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as going a couple of 
layers into the settings.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

>
>
> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, you 
> are restarting it.
> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call 
> buton.
> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make 
> sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> 
> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where 
> it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do 
> a left to right swipe.
> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
> Findable After Power Off  his Forward"
> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up on 
> the screen:
> iPhone remains findable after power off.
> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 
> power off.
> The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in 
> family sharing you share location with.
> You can t

RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Read the message I sent initially, I pasted the text as it is showing up 
exactly. This is a new feature in iOS 15.

If you have iOS 15 on your phone you can also just check it yourself, bring up 
the power off screen and tap on the button below Power Off, it has a weird 
label and if you double tap it you'l get the message about this.

Below is the first paragraph of a 9to5Mac article about this feature:



With iOS 15, your iPhone is still traceable through the Find My network even 
when the device is powered off. It seems that with iOS 15, the phone is not 
really fully "powered off", it stays in a low-power state and acts like an

AirTag, allowing any nearby iOS device to pick up the Bluetooth signal and send 
back its location.



iOS 15: Find My network can still find your iPhone when it is powered off, or 
factory reset - 
9to5Mac<https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-find-your-iphone-when-it-is-powered-off/>





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: November 22, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone



Sieghard, Wait...What, My phone after turning it off or the battery dies still 
sends out a location signal??? How is this possible? Is this feature within the 
IOS software? Or is it available on newer devices as a hardware chip or 
something? I've seen the setting for sending the devices last location before 
the device shuts off. The location of a device still being sent after being 
completely turned off is new info to me. Interesting...樂



Donna

>

> Donna, I am sure what you are describing is correct, but I think this button 
> on the power off screen refers to the new feature where an iPhone's location 
> is still being sent even after the phone is powered off. This would mean if 
> somebody stole an iPhone even powering it off wouldn't prevent the phone's 
> location from being sent and updated on iCloud. Of course sophisticated 
> thieves could still find ways to deal with that by placing the phone in a 
> container which shields it and prevents signals from being sent, but it 
> certainly makes it yet harder. My criticism is not in the feature but in this 
> strangely labelled button on the lock screen and its meaning.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Donna Casteen

> Sent: November 21, 2021 4:45 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off

> iPhone

>

> Sieghard, the Find My feature that you came across is a feature in which the 
> phones last location is sent to Apple & any friends before the phone is 
> powered off or before the battery in the phone dies from the neglect to 
> charge the phone battery. The setting to turn this feature on/off is in 
> settings, but I can't recall if it is in battery, Find My, SOS or possibly 
> even some place else.

>

> Donna

>

>>

>> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, 
>> you are restarting it.

>> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
>> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.

>> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
>> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
>> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency 
>> call buton.

>> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
>> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
>> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.

>> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
>> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to 
>> make sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:

>>

>> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your

>> cell signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is 
>> where it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
>> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do 
>> a left to right swipe.

>> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
>> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
>> Findable After Power OffForward"

>> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up 
>>

RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Donna, yes, it will if you press and hold the power button, but after about 2 
seconds the power off screen comes up and if you then let go of the volume 
button the phone won't restart, it will simply sit there with focus on the 
power off button and all you have to do to shut it down is to double tap.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: November 22, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

Sieghard, If you press volume up, volume down & continue to press the power 
button, the phone will restart.

Donna

> 
> What do you know, you are correct, I just tried this on my iPhone 11, I 
> pressed volume up, then volume down and then I pressed the side button and 
> held it for a moment and the Power off screen came up and focus was actually 
> on the Power Off button, so this is actually not a bad way to do this at all.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Vicky Collins
> Sent: November 21, 2021 8:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off 
> iPhone
> 
> First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
> button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
> for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
> anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen 
> where I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button 
> and released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then 
> pressed the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it 
> even said power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen 
> had come up. However, if when following the above procedure I held down the 
> side button for about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed 
> restart.
> Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
> used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it 
> to a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
> purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone 
> and a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
> batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it 
> in its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for 
> it. My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 
> percent but still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery 
> might last a few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching 
> will often, but not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and 
> it never lasts more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the 
> battery for that phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how 
> long it will last, sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and 
> then going down to zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as 
> going a couple of layers into the settings.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
> Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off 
> iPhone
> 
>> 
>> 
>> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, 
>> you are restarting it.
>> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
>> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
>> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
>> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
>> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency 
>> call buton.
>> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
>> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
>> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
>> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
>> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to 
>> make sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
>> 
>> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your 
>> cell signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is 
>> where it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
>> actually says "Slide to Power off"

Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Donna Casteen
Sieghard, Wait...What, My phone after turning it off or the battery dies still 
sends out a location signal??? How is this possible? Is this feature within the 
IOS software? Or is it available on newer devices as a hardware chip or 
something? I've seen the setting for sending the devices last location before 
the device shuts off. The location of a device still being sent after being 
completely turned off is new info to me. Interesting...樂

Donna
 
> 
> Donna, I am sure what you are describing is correct, but I think this button 
> on the power off screen refers to the new feature where an iPhone's location 
> is still being sent even after the phone is powered off. This would mean if 
> somebody stole an iPhone even powering it off wouldn't prevent the phone's 
> location from being sent and updated on iCloud. Of course sophisticated 
> thieves could still find ways to deal with that by placing the phone in a 
> container which shields it and prevents signals from being sent, but it 
> certainly makes it yet harder. My criticism is not in the feature but in this 
> strangely labelled button on the lock screen and its meaning.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: November 21, 2021 4:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
> Sieghard, the Find My feature that you came across is a feature in which the 
> phones last location is sent to Apple & any friends before the phone is 
> powered off or before the battery in the phone dies from the neglect to 
> charge the phone battery. The setting to turn this feature on/off is in 
> settings, but I can't recall if it is in battery, Find My, SOS or possibly 
> even some place else.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, 
>> you are restarting it.
>> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
>> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
>> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
>> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
>> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency 
>> call buton.
>> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
>> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
>> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
>> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
>> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to 
>> make sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
>> 
>> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
>> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where 
>> it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
>> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do 
>> a left to right swipe.
>> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
>> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
>> Findable After Power OffForward"
>> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up 
>> on the screen:
>> iPhone remains findable after power off.
>> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 
>> power off.
>> The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in 
>> family sharing you share location with.
>> You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this 
>> iPhone is powered on again.
>> Then there is an OK button.
>> What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after 
>> power off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message 
>> is tap the OK button and this takes you right back to the same Power Off 
>> screen, but this weird sounding and not very descriptive button is not read 
>> any differently by Voiceover. I will write to Apple Accessibility and ask 
>> for clarification regarding this.
>> OK, back to the Power Off screen description:
>> 
>> If you swipe right again you now come to the "Medical Id" button 
>> Another swipe right takes you to the "Emergency Call" button If you 
>> explore the screen instead of swiping right you will find that there is a 
>> bit of a gap between the first two buttons and these two which are pretty 
>>

Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Donna Casteen
Sieghard, If you press volume up, volume down & continue to press the power 
button, the phone will restart.

Donna

> 
> What do you know, you are correct, I just tried this on my iPhone 11, I 
> pressed volume up, then volume down and then I pressed the side button and 
> held it for a moment and the Power off screen came up and focus was actually 
> on the Power Off button, so this is actually not a bad way to do this at all.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: November 21, 2021 8:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
> First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
> button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
> for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
> anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen 
> where I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button 
> and released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then 
> pressed the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it 
> even said power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen 
> had come up. However, if when following the above procedure I held down the 
> side button for about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed 
> restart.
> Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
> used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it 
> to a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
> purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone 
> and a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
> batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it 
> in its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for 
> it. My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 
> percent but still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery 
> might last a few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching 
> will often, but not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and 
> it never lasts more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the 
> battery for that phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how 
> long it will last, sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and 
> then going down to zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as 
> going a couple of layers into the settings.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
> Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
>> 
>> 
>> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, 
>> you are restarting it.
>> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
>> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
>> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
>> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
>> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency 
>> call buton.
>> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
>> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
>> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
>> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
>> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to 
>> make sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
>> 
>> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
>> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where 
>> it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
>> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do 
>> a left to right swipe.
>> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
>> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
>> Findable After Power Off  his Forward"
>> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up 
>> on the screen:
>> iPhone remains findable after power off.
>> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 

RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Alan,

Another good observation so this method for powering off the phone is clearly 
better than holding volume button and side button at the same time since by 
doing so one after each other you don't get all the other stuff like Medical Id 
and Emergency Call. However, that weird Location.Radiowave button still showed 
up for me on that screen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: November 21, 2021 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

Hi Vicky,

I also get a power off button at the top of the screen when pressing and 
releasing volume up, pressing and releasing volume down, then holding down the 
side power button for a couple of seconds. Only power off and cancel are on the 
screen with this method. If the side power button is held down for several 
seconds with this method, the phone does a hard reset. This is on my iPhone 13 
Mini.

I'm curious why your iPhone 12 Mini is in a drawer. You really didn't explain 
what the problem is with it. I love my 13 Mini.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen where 
I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button and 
released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then pressed 
the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it even said 
power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen had come up. 
However, if when following the above procedure I held down the side button for 
about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed restart.
Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it to 
a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone and 
a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it in 
its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for it. 
My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 percent but 
still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery might last a 
few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching will often, but 
not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and it never lasts 
more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the battery for that 
phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how long it will last, 
sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and then going down to 
zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as going a couple of 
layers into the settings.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

>
>
> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, you 
> are restarting it.
> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call 
> buton.
> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make 
> sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> 
> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where 
> it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do 
> a left to right swipe.
> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
> literal

RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
What do you know, you are correct, I just tried this on my iPhone 11, I pressed 
volume up, then volume down and then I pressed the side button and held it for 
a moment and the Power off screen came up and focus was actually on the Power 
Off button, so this is actually not a bad way to do this at all.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: November 21, 2021 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen where 
I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button and 
released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then pressed 
the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it even said 
power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen had come up. 
However, if when following the above procedure I held down the side button for 
about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed restart.
Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it to 
a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone and 
a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it in 
its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for it. 
My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 percent but 
still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery might last a 
few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching will often, but 
not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and it never lasts 
more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the battery for that 
phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how long it will last, 
sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and then going down to 
zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as going a couple of 
layers into the settings.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

>
>
> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, you 
> are restarting it.
> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call 
> buton.
> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make 
> sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> 
> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where 
> it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do 
> a left to right swipe.
> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
> Findable After Power Off  his Forward"
> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up on 
> the screen:
> iPhone remains findable after power off.
> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 
> power off.
> The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in 
> family sharing you share location with.
> You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this 
> iPhone is powered on again.
> Then there is an OK button.
> What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after 
> power off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message is 
> tap the OK button an

RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Donna, I am sure what you are describing is correct, but I think this button on 
the power off screen refers to the new feature where an iPhone's location is 
still being sent even after the phone is powered off. This would mean if 
somebody stole an iPhone even powering it off wouldn't prevent the phone's 
location from being sent and updated on iCloud. Of course sophisticated thieves 
could still find ways to deal with that by placing the phone in a container 
which shields it and prevents signals from being sent, but it certainly makes 
it yet harder. My criticism is not in the feature but in this strangely 
labelled button on the lock screen and its meaning.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: November 21, 2021 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

Sieghard, the Find My feature that you came across is a feature in which the 
phones last location is sent to Apple & any friends before the phone is powered 
off or before the battery in the phone dies from the neglect to charge the 
phone battery. The setting to turn this feature on/off is in settings, but I 
can't recall if it is in battery, Find My, SOS or possibly even some place else.

Donna
  
> 
> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, 
> you are restarting it.
> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call 
> buton.
> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make 
> sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> 
> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where 
> it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do 
> a left to right swipe.
> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
> Findable After Power OffForward"
> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up on 
> the screen:
> iPhone remains findable after power off.
> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 
> power off.
> The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in 
> family sharing you share location with.
> You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this 
> iPhone is powered on again.
> Then there is an OK button.
> What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after 
> power off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message is 
> tap the OK button and this takes you right back to the same Power Off screen, 
> but this weird sounding and not very descriptive button is not read any 
> differently by Voiceover. I will write to Apple Accessibility and ask for 
> clarification regarding this.
> OK, back to the Power Off screen description:
> 
> If you swipe right again you now come to the "Medical Id" button 
> Another swipe right takes you to the "Emergency Call" button If you 
> explore the screen instead of swiping right you will find that there is a bit 
> of a gap between the first two buttons and these two which are pretty much 
> right in the middle of the screen.
> 
> Lastly, if you swipe right again from the Emergency Call button, you find a 
> "Cancel" button and as the name implies, if you double tap here it will again 
> close this screen and take you back to wherever you were before.
> That button is again after a gap and it's located near the bottom of the 
> screen.
> All these buttons go right across most of the screen from left to right, i.e. 
> you can touch your screen near the left side and drag your finger down and 
> find them or you can touch the screen near the top on the right side or in 
> the middle.
> 
> You really shouldn't be that afraid, you are much more likely to accidently 
> call emergency services if you press 

RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I don't think anybody can gain access to somebody's iCloud account, but I do 
remember that I once received a replacement phone after something didn't seem 
right with mine and while this was a long time ago, I remember wondering why I 
saw some weird email address already in the email field when it came time to 
sign into iCloud. I assume maybe that was the reason.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: November 21, 2021 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

My only comment is that Apple should rethink it’s claim to being the most 
secure of the smart phones if completely erasing an iPhone through the reset 
process enables someone acquiring that phone to get into the prior owner’s 
iCloud account. And I’m not sure finding references to old iPhones in your same 
account under the same Apple ID is what’s being discussed here.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

Alan,

I don't entirely agree here, I sometimes have found references to old iPhones 
of mine which I fully erased and sold in my Apple account where I had to remove 
them manually and I wonder if maybe signing out of iCloud is a way to prevent 
this from happening.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: November 21, 2021 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

Hi Vicky,

If you've completely erased your phone as part of the reset process in 
preparation of selling it, their is no need to also sign out of iCloud. After a 
complete reset, the phone will be like a new device.

You can get to the power off button on the screen by holding down either the 
volume up or volume down buttons simultaneously with the side power button. 
When you do, a new screen appears with power off at the top, followed by 
Medical ID, Emergency SOS, and Cancel. If you test this, you will have to enter 
your passcode if you cancel out of it.

Alan Lemly

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Vicky 
Collins mailto:vcollins5...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 8:31:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the side button quite a bit 
longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the way I am, what am I 
doing, and does it harm the phone in any way?

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Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Vicky Collins
Oh, grin, I'm hoping there's no problem with my iPhone 12 Mini. But well, 
although I really do want that phone and plan to keep it, I wound up getting 
two other iPhones that I wasn't expecting as I had planned them for family 
members, thus I just haven't gotten around to unpacking the 12 Mini yet.

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 11:49 pm
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

>
>
> Hi Vicky,
> 
> I also get a power off button at the top of the screen when pressing and 
> releasing volume up, pressing and releasing volume down, then holding down 
> the side power button for a couple of seconds. Only power off and cancel are 
> on the screen with this method. If the side power button is held down for 
> several seconds with this method, the phone does a hard reset. This is on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini.
> 
> I'm curious why your iPhone 12 Mini is in a drawer. You really didn't explain 
> what the problem is with it. I love my 13 Mini.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 10:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
> First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
> button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
> for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
> anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen 
> where I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button 
> and released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then 
> pressed the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it 
> even said power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen 
> had come up. However, if when following the above procedure I held down the 
> side button for about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed 
> restart.
> Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
> used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it 
> to a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
> purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone 
> and a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
> batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it 
> in its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for 
> it. My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 
> percent but still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery 
> might last a few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching 
> will often, but not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and 
> it never lasts more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the 
> battery for that phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how 
> long it will last, sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and 
> then going down to zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as 
> going a couple of layers into the settings.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
> Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
> >
> >
> > When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, 
> > you are restarting it.
> > If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can 
> > go to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> > This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> > Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> > because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency 
> > call buton.
> > Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> > button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> > would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> > I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I 
> > am on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to 
> > make sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> > 
> > At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> > signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that

RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Vicky,

I also get a power off button at the top of the screen when pressing and 
releasing volume up, pressing and releasing volume down, then holding down the 
side power button for a couple of seconds. Only power off and cancel are on the 
screen with this method. If the side power button is held down for several 
seconds with this method, the phone does a hard reset. This is on my iPhone 13 
Mini.

I'm curious why your iPhone 12 Mini is in a drawer. You really didn't explain 
what the problem is with it. I love my 13 Mini.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen where 
I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button and 
released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then pressed 
the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it even said 
power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen had come up. 
However, if when following the above procedure I held down the side button for 
about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed restart.
Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it to 
a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone and 
a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it in 
its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for it. 
My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 percent but 
still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery might last a 
few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching will often, but 
not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and it never lasts 
more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the battery for that 
phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how long it will last, 
sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and then going down to 
zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as going a couple of 
layers into the settings.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

>
>
> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, you 
> are restarting it.
> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call 
> buton.
> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make 
> sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> 
> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where 
> it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it 
> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do 
> a left to right swipe.
> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
> Findable After Power Off  his Forward"
> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up on 
> the screen:
> iPhone remains findable after power off.
> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 
> power off.
> The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in 
> family sharing you share location with.
> You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this 
&g

Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Vicky Collins
First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen where 
I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button and 
released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then pressed 
the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it even said 
power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen had come up. 
However, if when following the above procedure I held down the side button for 
about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed restart.
Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it to 
a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone and 
a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it in 
its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for it. 
My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 percent but 
still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery might last a 
few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching will often, but 
not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and it never lasts 
more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the battery for that 
phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how long it will last, 
sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and then going down to 
zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as going a couple of 
layers into the settings.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

>
>
> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, you 
> are restarting it.
> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call 
> buton.
> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make 
> sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> 
> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right
> Just underneath that is where it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, 
> for a sighted person it actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of 
> double tapping they do a left to right swipe.
> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
> Findable After Power Off  his Forward"
> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up on 
> the screen:
> iPhone remains findable after power off.
> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 
> power off.
> The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in 
> family sharing you share location with.
> You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this 
> iPhone is powered on again.
> Then there is an OK button.
> What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after 
> power off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message is 
> tap the OK button and this takes you right back to the same Power Off screen, 
> but this weird sounding and not very descriptive button is not read any 
> differently by Voiceover. I will write to Apple Accessibility and ask for 
> clarification regarding this.
> OK, back to the Power Off screen description:
> 
> If you swipe right again you now come to the "Medical Id" button
> Another swipe right takes you to the "Emergency Call" button
> If you explore the screen instead of swiping right you wil

Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Donna Casteen
Sieghard, the Find My feature that you came across is a feature in which the 
phones last location is sent to Apple & any friends before the phone is powered 
off or before the battery in the phone dies from the neglect to charge the 
phone battery. The setting to turn this feature on/off is in settings, but I 
can't recall if it is in battery, Find My, SOS or possibly even some place else.

Donna
  
> 
> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, 
> you are restarting it.
> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go 
> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call 
> buton.
> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am 
> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make 
> sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> 
> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right
> Just underneath that is where it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, 
> for a sighted person it actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of 
> double tapping they do a left to right swipe.
> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
> Findable After Power Off   Forward"
> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up on 
> the screen:
> iPhone remains findable after power off.
> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 
> power off.
> The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in 
> family sharing you share location with.
> You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this 
> iPhone is powered on again.
> Then there is an OK button.
> What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after 
> power off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message is 
> tap the OK button and this takes you right back to the same Power Off screen, 
> but this weird sounding and not very descriptive button is not read any 
> differently by Voiceover. I will write to Apple Accessibility and ask for 
> clarification regarding this.
> OK, back to the Power Off screen description:
> 
> If you swipe right again you now come to the "Medical Id" button
> Another swipe right takes you to the "Emergency Call" button
> If you explore the screen instead of swiping right you will find that there 
> is a bit of a gap between the first two buttons and these two which are 
> pretty much right in the middle of the screen.
> 
> Lastly, if you swipe right again from the Emergency Call button, you find a 
> "Cancel" button and as the name implies, if you double tap here it will again 
> close this screen and take you back to wherever you were before.
> That button is again after a gap and it's located near the bottom of the 
> screen.
> All these buttons go right across most of the screen from left to right, i.e. 
> you can touch your screen near the left side and drag your finger down and 
> find them or you can touch the screen near the top on the right side or in 
> the middle.
> 
> You really shouldn't be that afraid, you are much more likely to accidently 
> call emergency services if you press the side button too many times 
> repeatedly, just pressing and holding a volume button and the side button 
> won't do that if you are careful not to double tap afterwards without making 
> sure you are not on the emergency call button.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: November 21, 2021 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
> First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever 
> an old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
> iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
> iCloud, anyway?
> 
> Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, 

RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Vicky,

The vol up / down and power doesn't turn the phone off it just restarts the 
phone for you.

Just use vol down and power at the same time,and flick to the power off,

As for signing ou of iCloud,

Yes you can  I normally do both find my and icloud / apple id at the time I do 
the eraise,

That way I get it all done in one go.


 But I would suggest when turning the phone off at the end,

Turn vo on and then use the power and vol down to find the shutdoewn button on 
the screen 
That way you get it correct rather than ringing your local emergency services.


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Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the side button quite a bit 
longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the way I am, what am I 
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RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Alan Lemly
My only comment is that Apple should rethink it’s claim to being the most 
secure of the smart phones if completely erasing an iPhone through the reset 
process enables someone acquiring that phone to get into the prior owner’s 
iCloud account. And I’m not sure finding references to old iPhones in your same 
account under the same Apple ID is what’s being discussed here.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

 

Alan,

 

I don't entirely agree here, I sometimes have found references to old iPhones 
of mine which I fully erased and sold in my Apple account where I had to remove 
them manually and I wonder if maybe signing out of iCloud is a way to prevent 
this from happening.

 

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Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

 

Hi Vicky, 

 

If you've completely erased your phone as part of the reset process in 
preparation of selling it, their is no need to also sign out of iCloud. After a 
complete reset, the phone will be like a new device. 

 

You can get to the power off button on the screen by holding down either the 
volume up or volume down buttons simultaneously with the side power button. 
When you do, a new screen appears with power off at the top, followed by 
Medical ID, Emergency SOS, and Cancel. If you test this, you will have to enter 
your passcode if you cancel out of it. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the side button quite a bit 
longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the way I am, what am I 
doing, and does it harm the phone in any way?

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RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Alan,

I don't entirely agree here, I sometimes have found references to old iPhones 
of mine which I fully erased and sold in my Apple account where I had to remove 
them manually and I wonder if maybe signing out of iCloud is a way to prevent 
this from happening.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
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Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

Hi Vicky,

If you've completely erased your phone as part of the reset process in 
preparation of selling it, their is no need to also sign out of iCloud. After a 
complete reset, the phone will be like a new device.

You can get to the power off button on the screen by holding down either the 
volume up or volume down buttons simultaneously with the side power button. 
When you do, a new screen appears with power off at the top, followed by 
Medical ID, Emergency SOS, and Cancel. If you test this, you will have to enter 
your passcode if you cancel out of it.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
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RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, you 
are restarting it.
If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go to 
Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew Side 
button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it because as 
I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call buton.
Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side button 
until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services would be if 
focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am on 
Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make 
sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:

At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell signal, 
Wi-Fi and battery status on the right
Just underneath that is where it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for 
a sighted person it actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of 
double tapping they do a left to right swipe.
After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says 
literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.rightiPhone 
Findable After Power Off   Forward"
I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up on 
the screen:
iPhone remains findable after power off.
Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after 
power off.
The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in 
family sharing you share location with.
You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this 
iPhone is powered on again.
Then there is an OK button.
What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after power 
off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message is tap the 
OK button and this takes you right back to the same Power Off screen, but this 
weird sounding and not very descriptive button is not read any differently by 
Voiceover. I will write to Apple Accessibility and ask for clarification 
regarding this.
OK, back to the Power Off screen description:

If you swipe right again you now come to the "Medical Id" button
Another swipe right takes you to the "Emergency Call" button
If you explore the screen instead of swiping right you will find that there is 
a bit of a gap between the first two buttons and these two which are pretty 
much right in the middle of the screen.

Lastly, if you swipe right again from the Emergency Call button, you find a 
"Cancel" button and as the name implies, if you double tap here it will again 
close this screen and take you back to wherever you were before.
That button is again after a gap and it's located near the bottom of the screen.
All these buttons go right across most of the screen from left to right, i.e. 
you can touch your screen near the left side and drag your finger down and find 
them or you can touch the screen near the top on the right side or in the 
middle.

You really shouldn't be that afraid, you are much more likely to accidently 
call emergency services if you press the side button too many times repeatedly, 
just pressing and holding a volume button and the side button won't do that if 
you are careful not to double tap afterwards without making sure you are not on 
the emergency call button.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: November 21, 2021 6:31 AM
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Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
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Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Gerardo Corripio
I've heard cases of people selling iPhones deleting them, but when the new 
buyer starts them, if the previous owner didn't sign out of their iClouds on 
the phone, it'll assume you want to continue working with the previous owner's 
ID. That's why it's very important to sign out nevertheless, just to be on the 
safe side. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 21 nov 2021, a la(s) 9:28 a.m., Alan Lemly  escribió:
> 
> 
> Hi Vicky,
> 
> If you've completely erased your phone as part of the reset process in 
> preparation of selling it, their is no need to also sign out of iCloud. After 
> a complete reset, the phone will be like a new device.
> 
> You can get to the power off button on the screen by holding down either the 
> volume up or volume down buttons simultaneously with the side power button. 
> When you do, a new screen appears with power off at the top, followed by 
> Medical ID, Emergency SOS, and Cancel. If you test this, you will have to 
> enter your passcode if you cancel out of it.
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Vicky 
> Collins 
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 8:31:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
>  
> First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever 
> an old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
> iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
> iCloud, anyway?
> 
> Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
> Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button 
> for a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always 
> pressed the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button 
> and released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have 
> gotten the dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these 
> instructions for force restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the 
> side button quite a bit longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the 
> way I am, what am I doing, and does it harm the phone in any way?
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Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Vicky,

If you've completely erased your phone as part of the reset process in 
preparation of selling it, their is no need to also sign out of iCloud. After a 
complete reset, the phone will be like a new device.

You can get to the power off button on the screen by holding down either the 
volume up or volume down buttons simultaneously with the side power button. 
When you do, a new screen appears with power off at the top, followed by 
Medical ID, Emergency SOS, and Cancel. If you test this, you will have to enter 
your passcode if you cancel out of it.

Alan Lemly

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the side button quite a bit 
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two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

2021-11-21 Thread Vicky Collins
First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the side button quite a bit 
longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the way I am, what am I 
doing, and does it harm the phone in any way?

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RE: iCloud space

2021-11-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Settings > Your Name at the very top > iCloud > Manage Storage


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: November 3, 2021 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud space

This is from an older message, but where do you go to buy more space for iCloud 
backup?  Thanks

Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space

Also Kay,
If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB of 
iCloud space for 99¢ a month.
HTH,
Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished
Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iCloud space
Richard,
Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.

Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space
First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.
You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your name.
Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.
If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
to just leave it on the phone, do that.
I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.
Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
HTH,
Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iCloud space
Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to the 
new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was low, so he 
plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and discovered that it 
was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to back up and unload all 
of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message saying that there is not enough 
space in my iCloud account to back up everything on this phone and I should go 
to settings to manage my account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone 
to back up to iCloud because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, 
how do I manage this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, 
until I decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off 
before charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
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Re: iCloud space

2021-11-03 Thread Kay Malmquist
This is from an older message, but where do you go to buy more space for 
iCloud backup?  Thanks

Kay Malmquist
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:04 AM
  Subject: RE: iCloud space


  Also Kay,

  If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB 
of iCloud space for 99¢ a month.



  HTH,







  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished



  Web site: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iCloud space



  Richard,

  Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  "Where focus goes, energy flows."
  Bob Proctor

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM

Subject: RE: iCloud space



First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a 
phone in that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.



You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on 
your name.



Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.

Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.



If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a 
chance to just leave it on the phone, do that.

I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.



Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.

HTH,







Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: iCloud space



Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still 
trying to decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like 
that on to the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery 
level was low, so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered 
downstairs and discovered that it was turned on and plugged in.  Of course 
it had tried to back up and unload all of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is 
a message saying that there is not enough space in my iCloud account to back 
up everything on this phone and I should go to settings to manage my 
account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone to back up to iCloud 
because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, how do I manage 
this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, until I 
decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off before 
charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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iCloud settings issue

2021-10-21 Thread Donald Roberts
I would appreciate knowing how to change my phone number in iCloud. 
Fortunately, I still have the phone number used when I originally set up 
the iCloud account; however, I have looked through settings but cannot 
seem to locate the phone number to change it.


Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: What are the pros and cons of a previous iPhone to new iPhone wireless data transfer setup versus setting up a new iPhone from an iCloud backup of the previous iPhone?

2021-09-26 Thread Kelly Pierce
In the past, the downside of restoring data through iCloud was that
iCloud did not back up music. A wireless or computer backup was the
only way to move everything from one iPhone to another. Now in iOS 15,
Apple has created three weeks of extra iCloud storage for moving all
data from one iPhone to another. It is unclear if this includes videos
and music. Even if it did, it would seem the time needed to upload
tens of gigabytes of data and then to download all that data would be
longer with the new iCloud transfer than the wireless transfer with
the two phones sitting next to each other.

Kelly




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>
> I am curious about the following.
>
> What are the pros and cons of a previous iPhone to new iPhone wireless data
> transfer setup versus setting up a new iPhone from an iCloud backup of the
> previous iPhone?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Keith
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What are the pros and cons of a previous iPhone to new iPhone wireless data transfer setup versus setting up a new iPhone from an iCloud backup of the previous iPhone?

2021-09-26 Thread 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone
Hi,

I am curious about the following.

What are the pros and cons of a previous iPhone to new iPhone wireless data 
transfer setup versus setting up a new iPhone from an iCloud backup of the 
previous iPhone? 

Thanks in advance. 
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How to get back Icloud drive

2021-08-31 Thread Ketan Kothari
Hi friends,

I accidentally signed out of Icloud on my Windows 10 home computer.
Consequently, the Icloud drive also disappeared from my user folder.
I reinitiated the Icloud but the drive did not return.  How do I get
it back?  Please could someone help please?  Thank you.

Ketan

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Re: iCloud space

2021-08-31 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I am just curious, but what is the reason behind having the phone turned off 
> when charging?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: August 12, 2021 8:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iCloud space
>  
> Also Kay,
> If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB of 
> iCloud space for 99¢ a month.
>  
> HTH,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iCloud space
>  
> Richard,
> Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
> Subject: RE: iCloud space
>  
> First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
> that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.
>  
> You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your 
> name.
>  
> Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
> Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.
>  
> If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
> to just leave it on the phone, do that.
> I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
> already.
>  
> Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
> HTH,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iCloud space
>  
> Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
> decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to 
> the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was low, 
> so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and discovered 
> that it was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to back up and 
> unload all of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message saying that there 
> is not enough space in my iCloud account to back up everything on this phone 
> and I should go to settings to manage my account.  First of all, I didn't 
> even want this phone to back up to iCloud because of not knowing if I am 
> going to keep it.  Second, how do I manage this or get that phones stuff off 
> my iCloud account.  Thirdly, until I decide whether or not I'm keeping this 
> phone, it shall be powered off before charging.  Can anyone solve my problem? 
>  Thanks for any help.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
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Re: Multiple Email Addresses in iCloud?

2021-08-28 Thread Kliph
Yes and yes.  If you have one you have to go to the website 
iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/>
To create what they call alias’s.  The nice thing about it though, is you can 
choose what email to send from, and they all bring mail into the same in box 
unless you sort them to a different folder.


> On Aug 15, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I have iPhone8 with iOS14.7.
> I do not have an iCloud email address, I would like to have one. How can I do 
> that, please?
> Can I create more than one email address there too?
> Thanks!
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RE: Multiple Email Addresses in iCloud?

2021-08-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Check under settings,
Accounts and passwords,
As you may have one that you didn’t know had been created,

I didn’t create one myself but I have one

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2021 9:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Multiple Email Addresses in iCloud?

Hi, Group.
I have iPhone8 with iOS14.7.
I do not have an iCloud email address, I would like to have one. How can I do 
that, please?
Can I create more than one email address there too?
Thanks!

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Multiple Email Addresses in iCloud?

2021-08-15 Thread Fazil
Hi, Group.

I have iPhone8 with iOS14.7.

I do not have an iCloud email address, I would like to have one. How can I
do that, please?

Can I create more than one email address there too?

Thanks!

 

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Re: deleting data from iCloud

2021-08-13 Thread Anna Dresner
YOu're welcome, Anthony. In the process of answering your question, I found an 
anomaly in my iCloud drive that might get me back 11.5 GB, so I was 
particularly glad to help. (smile)

Cheers,
Anna


> On Aug 13, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your excellent explanation. 
> Regards 
>  
> Anthony 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: 13 August 2021 18:39
> To: VIPhone Mailing List  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: deleting data from iCloud
>  
> Hi Anthony,
>  
> Open Settings. Choose the button at the top of settings with your name, then 
> iCloud, then Manage storage. It may take a while, but eventually everything 
> you have in iCloud will be listed, with the one taking up the most space 
> listed first. Find the app whose data you want to delete, and double-tap. A 
> screen opens that tells you how much data is in iCloud, and that screen 
> includes a delete Data button. Double-tap it and confirm that you want to 
> delete if you're asked. The data will be deleted.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
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>> Hi 
>>  
>> Can someone explain to me how to deleting data from the iCloud of an app 
>> that I deleted before please? 
>> Thanks in advance 
>>  
>> Anthony 
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RE: deleting data from iCloud

2021-08-13 Thread Anthony Borg
Thanks for your excellent explanation. 

Regards 

 

Anthony 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: 13 August 2021 18:39
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Subject: Re: deleting data from iCloud

 

Hi Anthony,

 

Open Settings. Choose the button at the top of settings with your name, then 
iCloud, then Manage storage. It may take a while, but eventually everything you 
have in iCloud will be listed, with the one taking up the most space listed 
first. Find the app whose data you want to delete, and double-tap. A screen 
opens that tells you how much data is in iCloud, and that screen includes a 
delete Data button. Double-tap it and confirm that you want to delete if you're 
asked. The data will be deleted.

 

Best,

Anna

 





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Hi 

 

Can someone explain to me how to deleting data from the iCloud of an app that I 
deleted before please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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Re: deleting data from iCloud

2021-08-13 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Anthony,

Open Settings. Choose the button at the top of settings with your name, then 
iCloud, then Manage storage. It may take a while, but eventually everything you 
have in iCloud will be listed, with the one taking up the most space listed 
first. Find the app whose data you want to delete, and double-tap. A screen 
opens that tells you how much data is in iCloud, and that screen includes a 
delete Data button. Double-tap it and confirm that you want to delete if you're 
asked. The data will be deleted.

Best,
Anna


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> Hi 
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> Can someone explain to me how to deleting data from the iCloud of an app that 
> I deleted before please? 
> Thanks in advance 
>  
> Anthony 
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deleting data from iCloud

2021-08-13 Thread Anthony Borg
Hi 

 

Can someone explain to me how to deleting data from the iCloud of an app
that I deleted before please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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Re: iCloud space

2021-08-12 Thread Kay Malmquist
It didn't ask me what I wanted to do with that backup, but I will have a 
look at what you mentioned.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anna Dresner
  To: VIPhone Mailing List
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:12 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud space


  Hi,


  if you turn off backups on that phone, it won't back up either. I think it 
will also ask if you want to delete the existing backup.


  You can also remove backups from iCloud at any time by choosing the button 
with your name at the top of Settings, then iCloud, then Manage Storage. 
Choose the Backups button. Each device that is being backed up is listed 
along with how much space it takes up. Double-tap the one you want to 
delete. There's a delete Backup button on that page that will delete the 
backup and stop backing up to that device.


  Best,
  Anna




On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:


If the phone is turned off while charging over night, it will not back 
up to the iCloud.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:38 AM
  Subject: RE: iCloud space


  I am just curious, but what is the reason behind having the phone 
turned off when charging?

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: August 12, 2021 8:04 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: iCloud space

  Also Kay,
  If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 
50 GB of iCloud space for 99¢ a month.

  HTH,



  Richard
  Software means never having to say you're finished


  Web site: www.turner42.com

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iCloud space

  Richard,
  Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super 
day.

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  "Where focus goes, energy flows."
  Bob Proctor
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space

First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a 
phone in that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.

You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap 
on your name.

Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
    Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.

If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers 
a chance to just leave it on the phone, do that.
I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has 
backed up already.

Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
HTH,



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished


Web site: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud space

Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still 
trying to decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like 
that on to the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery 
level was low, so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered 
downstairs and discovered that it was turned on and plugged in.  Of course 
it had tried to back up and unload all of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is 
a message saying that there is not enough space in my iCloud account to back 
up everything on this phone and I should go to settings to manage my 
account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone to back up to iCloud 
because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, how do I manage 
this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, until I 
decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off before 
charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
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Re: iCloud space

2021-08-12 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,

if you turn off backups on that phone, it won't back up either. I think it will 
also ask if you want to delete the existing backup.

You can also remove backups from iCloud at any time by choosing the button with 
your name at the top of Settings, then iCloud, then Manage Storage. Choose the 
Backups button. Each device that is being backed up is listed along with how 
much space it takes up. Double-tap the one you want to delete. There's a delete 
Backup button on that page that will delete the backup and stop backing up to 
that device.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> If the phone is turned off while charging over night, it will not back up to 
> the iCloud.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>  
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:38 AM
>> Subject: RE: iCloud space
>> 
>> I am just curious, but what is the reason behind having the phone turned off 
>> when charging?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: August 12, 2021 8:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: iCloud space
>>  
>> Also Kay,
>> If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB 
>> of iCloud space for 99¢ a month.
>>  
>> HTH,
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>>  
>> Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: iCloud space
>>  
>> Richard,
>> Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>>  
>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
>> Bob Proctor
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
>>> Subject: RE: iCloud space
>>>  
>>> First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone 
>>> in that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.
>>>  
>>> You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your 
>>> name.
>>>  
>>> Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
>>> Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.
>>>  
>>> If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a 
>>> chance to just leave it on the phone, do that.
>>> I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
>>> already.
>>>  
>>> Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
>>> HTH,
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6add618fcca24873e59d08d95d9f1659%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637643760115027576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=rDkggtxwv9i9YBK9Tl9Hzz%2Bf9RWJ5hY0hVKRBGvhVQ8%3D=0>
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: iCloud space
>>>  
>>> Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying 
>>> to decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on 
>>> to the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was 
>>> low, so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wa

Re: iCloud space

2021-08-12 Thread Kay Malmquist
If the phone is turned off while charging over night, it will not back up to 
the iCloud.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:38 AM
  Subject: RE: iCloud space


  I am just curious, but what is the reason behind having the phone turned 
off when charging?



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: August 12, 2021 8:04 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: iCloud space



  Also Kay,

  If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB 
of iCloud space for 99¢ a month.



  HTH,







  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished



  Web site: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iCloud space



  Richard,

  Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  "Where focus goes, energy flows."
  Bob Proctor

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM

    Subject: RE: iCloud space



First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a 
phone in that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.



You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on 
your name.



Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.

    Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.



If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a 
chance to just leave it on the phone, do that.

I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.



Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.

HTH,







Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished



Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud space



Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still 
trying to decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like 
that on to the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery 
level was low, so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered 
downstairs and discovered that it was turned on and plugged in.  Of course 
it had tried to back up and unload all of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is 
a message saying that there is not enough space in my iCloud account to back 
up everything on this phone and I should go to settings to manage my 
account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone to back up to iCloud 
because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, how do I manage 
this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, until I 
decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off before 
charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

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RE: iCloud space

2021-08-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I am just curious, but what is the reason behind having the phone turned off 
when charging?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: August 12, 2021 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud space

Also Kay,
If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB of 
iCloud space for 99¢ a month.

HTH,



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud space

Richard,
Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space

First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.

You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your name.

Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.

If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
to just leave it on the phone, do that.
I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.

Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.
HTH,



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

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Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iCloud space

Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to the 
new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was low, so he 
plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and discovered that it 
was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to back up and unload all 
of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message saying that there is not enough 
space in my iCloud account to back up everything on this phone and I should go 
to settings to manage my account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone 
to back up to iCloud because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, 
how do I manage this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, 
until I decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off 
before charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

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RE: iCloud space

2021-08-12 Thread Richard Turner
Also Kay,
If you decide to keep the phone, and use iCloud backups, you can get 50 GB of 
iCloud space for 99¢ a month.

HTH,



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud space

Richard,
Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: iCloud space

First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
that is powered off, it powers up...  Annoying yes.

You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your name.

Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.

If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
to just leave it on the phone, do that.
I'm not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.

Someone here does I'm sure, or apple accessibility.
HTH,



Richard
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iCloud space

Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to the 
new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was low, so he 
plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and discovered that it 
was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to back up and unload all 
of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message saying that there is not enough 
space in my iCloud account to back up everything on this phone and I should go 
to settings to manage my account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone 
to back up to iCloud because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, 
how do I manage this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, 
until I decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off 
before charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

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Re: iCloud space

2021-08-12 Thread Kay Malmquist
Richard,
Thanks hugely!  I'll get right on that.  Take care and have a super day.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:37 AM
  Subject: RE: iCloud space


  First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone 
in that is powered off, it powers up…  Annoying yes.



  You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your 
name.



  Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.

  Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.



  If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a 
chance to just leave it on the phone, do that.

  I’m not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.



  Someone here does I’m sure, or apple accessibility.

  HTH,







  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished



  Web site: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: iCloud space



  Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying 
to decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on 
to the new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was 
low, so he plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and 
discovered that it was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to 
back up and unload all of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message 
saying that there is not enough space in my iCloud account to back up 
everything on this phone and I should go to settings to manage my account. 
First of all, I didn't even want this phone to back up to iCloud because of 
not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, how do I manage this or get 
that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, until I decide whether or 
not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off before charging.  Can 
anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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RE: iCloud space

2021-08-12 Thread Richard Turner
First, plug it in and then turn it off immediately.  Once you plug a phone in 
that is powered off, it powers up...  Annoying yes.

You can go into the settings at the top of settings and double tap on your name.

Then, swipe over to iCloud and double tap.
Now, swipe over to iCloud backup and toggle it off.

If it asks what you want to do with the backed up info, if it offers a chance 
to just leave it on the phone, do that.
I'm not sure exactly how to get stuff off your iCloud that has backed up 
already.

Someone here does I'm sure, or apple accessibility.
HTH,



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud space

Well, here is one for you.  I have gotten a new phone and am still trying to 
decide if I want it.  I have copied all the apps and things like that on to the 
new phone.  Yesterday my husband noticed that the battery level was low, so he 
plugged it in.  Early this morning I wandered downstairs and discovered that it 
was turned on and plugged in.  Of course it had tried to back up and unload all 
of its stuff to iCloud.  Now there is a message saying that there is not enough 
space in my iCloud account to back up everything on this phone and I should go 
to settings to manage my account.  First of all, I didn't even want this phone 
to back up to iCloud because of not knowing if I am going to keep it.  Second, 
how do I manage this or get that phones stuff off my iCloud account.  Thirdly, 
until I decide whether or not I'm keeping this phone, it shall be powered off 
before charging.  Can anyone solve my problem?  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
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