Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Samuel Klein]

On Mar 11, 2016 19:32, "Dan Garry"  wrote:
>
> I plan to worry more about the user experience implications that I
> mentioned once we're a bit closer to solving the technical feasibility
> questions.

Fair enough! Great once more to see this update. It makes this a much more
engaging page to set as a browser default on public machines.

Sj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Moheen Reeyad]

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Anthony Cole  wrote:

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>
> Anthony Cole
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow! Its really awesome. It was much needed.
> >
> > Thanks, team.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Anthony Cole]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
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On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
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> Wow! Its really awesome. It was much needed.
>
> Thanks, team.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Wow! Its really awesome. It was much needed.

Thanks, team.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

Let me elaborate my case a little bit:

Here is the scenario:

*I spent a lot of time luring fresh internet users into the terrains of
free knowledge, principally WM projects, and specifically WP, in a bustling
Global South region, interlaced with several local language projects.
*I have always treated Wikipedia, first for the readers, next for the
builders. Without more people becoming readers, there is no way more
builders turn in.

*Most of these people are aware that Google will fetch them needed
information quickly.
*A nominal percentage of them are aware that there is Wikipedia, in English.
*A thin percentage knows that there is wikipedia (however thin they may
be), in their native language too. If only they knew, they would even be
eager to explore more and venture into enriching it further (as new
editors). (Editing English Wikipedia is too complicated,  and bureaucratic,
let's admit it!. esp. if a topic is only of local interest and notability)

*Many among them are quite good in handling their native language. Some are
good in reading and comprehending English. But thin is the population who
can use English as a creative writing language.
*Most people use a PC or Mobile device which is not necessarily equipped
with their native language IME and/or rendering features. Most often, they
can read a web page in their language but can't type in (for want of a
suitable IME). But they can copy paste a string into a search box!

*Many articles have a rather better expanded version in a local wiki than
EN, if the topic is more notable in their community. But sometimes, it can
be the other way too.

*People gets turned off from a web site they have encountered for the first
time, if it gives them results not that encouraging. They might never visit
it at least for a long time to come. They have no time to waste.


Now, how this may be helped off:

1. I know a portal wikipedia.org or even en.wikipedia.org
2. I see a news item in a local language web page about a local entity. I
want to know more facts about this entity.
3. I get to the portal and inject this string (or type in this string) into
the search box.
4. There comes a few links: The first among them is an article in my
language about the entity. Following are versions of the same article (if
they exist) in other language wikis.
5. I directly choose, click and get to read what I wanted. I am happy and
decides to visit this portal again as a regular routine.

What, possibly, mediawiki / wikipedia can do behind the walls:
1. Gets a search string.
2. Identify the language.
a) Pick up the index for that language and process.
b)Goto Wikidata links and find an equivalent link / article in other
language projects for this string. pick index and seek.
c)Harvest and show case the results (optimized in certain ranks say first
article titles, then inline occurrences, then media etc.)


I can vouch positively that this itself will boost our counts to a great
extend, at least from regions where WP is yet to make a significant impact.

From a casual user's perspective, I have still not understood why our
computing resources should get strained for this simple extra steps.

-Viswaprabha















On 12 March 2016 at 05:40, Carlos Mora  wrote:

> Good work :D
>
> 2016-03-11 19:39 GMT-04:30 Samuel Klein :
> > Lovely work.
> >
> > On Mar 11, 2016 5:32 PM, "Dan Garry"  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11 March 2016 at 10:52, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) 
> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Failed my dream :(
> >> >
> >> > Any string in any language in any wikipedia project. How far is my
> > dream?
> >> >
> >>
> >> I share your dream! :-)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, the dream is quite far away from reality. Querying every
> >> search index would put a big performance strain on the search servers.
> >
> > Perhaps you could do this w two queries, one to a composite index that is
> > only updated weekly.
> >
> >> Additionally, it would likely return you a bunch of really irrelevant
> > results,
> >
> > Make this opt-in, add a different background color for results from the
> > all-language index, & divide their search-relevance by a
> > language-prominence factor...
> >
> > +SJ
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Dan Garry]

On 11 March 2016 at 16:09, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>
> Perhaps you could do this w two queries, one to a composite index that is
> only updated weekly.
>

Indeed, there are mechanisms that can make cross-wiki searching more
feasible. In fact, one mechanism we are in the very early stages of
exploring is merging all the projects in a given language into a single
index, so that one could search *all* projects in a language, rather than
just a single project in a given language. I have no timeline here; as I
said, we're in the very early stages, and of course we have other work on
the go at the same time.


> > Additionally, it would likely return you a bunch of really irrelevant
> results,
>
> Make this opt-in, add a different background color for results from the
> all-language index, & divide their search-relevance by a
> language-prominence factor...
>

I plan to worry more about the user experience implications that I
mentioned once we're a bit closer to solving the technical feasibility
questions. As you've shown, these are definitely solvable problems, but I
don't want to put the cart before the horse, as it were. :-)

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Nikola Kalchev]

Thank you very much, Catrope!

This is indeed very helpful for people who are mostly active on one wiki,
but want to check meta and commons every now and then, too.

One dream is fulfilled. The, next, to be able to have wikidata items in the
watchlist of my home wiki (=bgwiki) is in line.

Best regards,
Nikola / User:Лорд Бъмбъри

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Carlos Mora 
wrote:

> I actived this new beta feature and I find messages on wikis since one
> year or more. xD
>
> Is a wonderful feature, good work!
>
> 2016-03-11 18:50 GMT-04:30 Pete Forsyth :
> > I've enjoyed finding some messages I never knew were there, such as a
> > welcome message from two years ago on Basque Wikipedia, and a substantive
> > reply I had missed on Wikinews for 4 months. It's refreshing for a new
> > feature to make me immediately feel more connected to other volunteers.
> > Well done!
> > -Pete
> > [[User:Peteforsyth]]
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Sydney Poore 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Awesome news!!! I really appreciate this new feature.
> >>
> >> Sydney
> >>
> >> Sydney Poore
> >> User:FloNight
> >> Wikipedian in Residence
> >> at Cochrane Collaboration
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Roan Kattouw 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on
> building a
> >> > cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other
> wikis
> >> in
> >> > the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set
> of
> >> > wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on
> all
> >> > wikis as a beta feature.
> >> >
> >> > You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link
> [2]
> >> in
> >> > the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
> >> > "Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
> >> > through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner)
> >> will
> >> > now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
> >> > unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and
> see
> >> > those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation
> on
> >> > mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages
> at
> >> > the
> >> > time of this writing.
> >> >
> >> > Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta
> feature
> >> on
> >> > one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However,
> you
> >> > only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications
> on a
> >> > wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable
> the
> >> > beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from
> the
> >> > French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian
> Wiktionary
> >> > even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact,
> if
> >> > you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
> >> > notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
> >> > tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].
> >> >
> >> > Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk
> page
> >> on
> >> > mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug,
> >> please
> >> > report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community
> liaisons
> >> > Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on
> this
> >> > over the past few months.
> >> >
> >> > --Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)
> >> >
> >> > [1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and
> >> > mediawiki.org
> >> > [2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
> >> > [3]
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
> >> > [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
> >> > [5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
> >> > [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
> >> > [7]
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
> >> > [8] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Collaboration
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Samuel Klein]

Lovely work.

On Mar 11, 2016 5:32 PM, "Dan Garry"  wrote:
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 10:52, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) 
wrote:
> >
> > Failed my dream :(
> >
> > Any string in any language in any wikipedia project. How far is my
dream?
> >
>
> I share your dream! :-)
>
> Unfortunately, the dream is quite far away from reality. Querying every
> search index would put a big performance strain on the search servers.

Perhaps you could do this w two queries, one to a composite index that is
only updated weekly.

> Additionally, it would likely return you a bunch of really irrelevant
results,

Make this opt-in, add a different background color for results from the
all-language index, & divide their search-relevance by a
language-prominence factor...

+SJ
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Carlos Mora]

Good work :D

2016-03-11 19:39 GMT-04:30 Samuel Klein :
> Lovely work.
>
> On Mar 11, 2016 5:32 PM, "Dan Garry"  wrote:
>>
>> On 11 March 2016 at 10:52, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) 
> wrote:
>> >
>> > Failed my dream :(
>> >
>> > Any string in any language in any wikipedia project. How far is my
> dream?
>> >
>>
>> I share your dream! :-)
>>
>> Unfortunately, the dream is quite far away from reality. Querying every
>> search index would put a big performance strain on the search servers.
>
> Perhaps you could do this w two queries, one to a composite index that is
> only updated weekly.
>
>> Additionally, it would likely return you a bunch of really irrelevant
> results,
>
> Make this opt-in, add a different background color for results from the
> all-language index, & divide their search-relevance by a
> language-prominence factor...
>
> +SJ
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Carlos Mora]

I actived this new beta feature and I find messages on wikis since one
year or more. xD

Is a wonderful feature, good work!

2016-03-11 18:50 GMT-04:30 Pete Forsyth :
> I've enjoyed finding some messages I never knew were there, such as a
> welcome message from two years ago on Basque Wikipedia, and a substantive
> reply I had missed on Wikinews for 4 months. It's refreshing for a new
> feature to make me immediately feel more connected to other volunteers.
> Well done!
> -Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Sydney Poore 
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome news!!! I really appreciate this new feature.
>>
>> Sydney
>>
>> Sydney Poore
>> User:FloNight
>> Wikipedian in Residence
>> at Cochrane Collaboration
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Roan Kattouw 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on building a
>> > cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other wikis
>> in
>> > the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set of
>> > wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on all
>> > wikis as a beta feature.
>> >
>> > You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link [2]
>> in
>> > the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
>> > "Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
>> > through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner)
>> will
>> > now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
>> > unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and see
>> > those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation on
>> > mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages at
>> > the
>> > time of this writing.
>> >
>> > Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta feature
>> on
>> > one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However, you
>> > only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications on a
>> > wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable the
>> > beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from the
>> > French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian Wiktionary
>> > even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact, if
>> > you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
>> > notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
>> > tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].
>> >
>> > Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk page
>> on
>> > mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug,
>> please
>> > report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community liaisons
>> > Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on this
>> > over the past few months.
>> >
>> > --Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)
>> >
>> > [1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and
>> > mediawiki.org
>> > [2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
>> > [3]
>> >
>> >
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
>> > [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
>> > [5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
>> > [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
>> > [7]
>> >
>> >
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
>> > [8] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Collaboration
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[James Heilman]

Strongly desired product. Great to see it finally here. Congrats to all
involved.

J

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Pete Forsyth  wrote:

> I've enjoyed finding some messages I never knew were there, such as a
> welcome message from two years ago on Basque Wikipedia, and a substantive
> reply I had missed on Wikinews for 4 months. It's refreshing for a new
> feature to make me immediately feel more connected to other volunteers.
> Well done!
> -Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Sydney Poore 
> wrote:
>
> > Awesome news!!! I really appreciate this new feature.
> >
> > Sydney
> >
> > Sydney Poore
> > User:FloNight
> > Wikipedian in Residence
> > at Cochrane Collaboration
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Roan Kattouw 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on building
> a
> > > cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other wikis
> > in
> > > the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set
> of
> > > wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on
> all
> > > wikis as a beta feature.
> > >
> > > You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link [2]
> > in
> > > the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
> > > "Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
> > > through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner)
> > will
> > > now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
> > > unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and
> see
> > > those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation on
> > > mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages
> at
> > > the
> > > time of this writing.
> > >
> > > Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta feature
> > on
> > > one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However,
> you
> > > only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications
> on a
> > > wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable
> the
> > > beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from
> the
> > > French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian
> Wiktionary
> > > even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact,
> if
> > > you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
> > > notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
> > > tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].
> > >
> > > Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk page
> > on
> > > mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug,
> > please
> > > report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community
> liaisons
> > > Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on
> this
> > > over the past few months.
> > >
> > > --Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)
> > >
> > > [1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and
> > > mediawiki.org
> > > [2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
> > > [3]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
> > > [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
> > > [5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
> > > [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
> > > [7]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
> > > [8] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Collaboration
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Pete Forsyth]

I've enjoyed finding some messages I never knew were there, such as a
welcome message from two years ago on Basque Wikipedia, and a substantive
reply I had missed on Wikinews for 4 months. It's refreshing for a new
feature to make me immediately feel more connected to other volunteers.
Well done!
-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Sydney Poore 
wrote:

> Awesome news!!! I really appreciate this new feature.
>
> Sydney
>
> Sydney Poore
> User:FloNight
> Wikipedian in Residence
> at Cochrane Collaboration
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Roan Kattouw 
> wrote:
>
> > In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on building a
> > cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other wikis
> in
> > the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set of
> > wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on all
> > wikis as a beta feature.
> >
> > You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link [2]
> in
> > the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
> > "Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
> > through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner)
> will
> > now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
> > unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and see
> > those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation on
> > mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages at
> > the
> > time of this writing.
> >
> > Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta feature
> on
> > one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However, you
> > only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications on a
> > wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable the
> > beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from the
> > French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian Wiktionary
> > even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact, if
> > you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
> > notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
> > tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].
> >
> > Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk page
> on
> > mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug,
> please
> > report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.
> >
> > Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community liaisons
> > Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on this
> > over the past few months.
> >
> > --Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)
> >
> > [1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and
> > mediawiki.org
> > [2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
> > [3]
> >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
> > [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
> > [5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
> > [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
> > [7]
> >
> >
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
> > [8] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Collaboration
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

[James Heilman]

I have been involved with efforts to translate medical content into as many
languages as possible since 2012 in collaboration with Translators Without
Borders, donations of translation time by for-profit translation companies,
and movement volunteers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Translation_task_force

It takes a lot of time and effort to build capacity and to coordinate
volunteers. I have personally hired a project manager to help and the WMF
was providing support to one collaborator through an IEG.

I guess the question is how do we prioritize this work versus other
translation efforts? We switched to writing three to four paragraph
simplier summaries of topic in English specifically for translation as
translating entire high quality articles was too resource intensive.

James

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
wrote:

> On 2016-03-11 18:00, Sydney Poore wrote:
>
>> Hello Yaroslav
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> My point is that there is no clear strategy or process for prioritizing
>> which pages get translated. So, perhaps it is easy for some people to be
>> mixed up.
>>
>> But I'm pretty confident that I understand the issues, and I'm not getting
>> anything mixed up. :-)
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> This dynamic in the wikimedia movement needs to change. It is exclusionary
>> and unwelcoming.
>>
>> We can not reach the people that the wikimedia movement needs to reach if
>> the burden of translation of these important official WMF processes a
>> completely volunteer process.
>>
>> Going forward, I would like to see the percentage of pages translated as a
>> metric that is tracked, reported, and discussed regularly.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Sydney
>>
>>
> Thank you, it more clear now.
>
> However, my point is we can not translate everything to all languages. we
> do not have and we will never have resources for that. We need to
> prioritize. I would say in the case of the upcoming elections, it would be
> great to know what languages we need to translate the documents into - the
> languages spoken by the members of boards of the organizations who actually
> intend to vote, and only in the case they do not speak English. I asked
> this already a week ago in this very same topic of the mailing list, and
> got a reply from someone (was it Amir? - sorry, I can not easily check it
> now) that there is a generic list of languages important messages get
> translated into. In this situation, I would say, we need first to make a
> custom list for these elections - hopefully it is more narrow than the
> generic list, and then see what is the best way to proceed. I am not sure
> there is a general solutions - probably different documents just need to be
> translated into different sets of languages.
>
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Dan Garry]

On 11 March 2016 at 14:22, Pete Forsyth  wrote:

> Thank you to the Discovery team -- it seems to me that your work has been
> largely overshadowed by political concerns in recent months (which may have
> been necessary, but not pleasant).
>
> I'm delighted to see working and useful software emerge, in spite of the
> challenging environment that has existed around your work. I'm delighted to
> see your substantive engagement (e.g., Dan and Adam, above) with feedback
> about the implementation.
>
> Kudos!
> -Pete


Thanks, Pete. In this area, I want to direct the praise to Chris Koerner
and Keegan Peterzell who have helped Discovery immensely with community
engagement, community feedback, and announcements of our work.

Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Sydney Poore]

Awesome news!!! I really appreciate this new feature.

Sydney

Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
Wikipedian in Residence
at Cochrane Collaboration

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Roan Kattouw 
wrote:

> In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on building a
> cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other wikis in
> the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set of
> wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on all
> wikis as a beta feature.
>
> You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link [2] in
> the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
> "Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
> through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner) will
> now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
> unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and see
> those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation on
> mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages at
> the
> time of this writing.
>
> Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta feature on
> one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However, you
> only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications on a
> wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable the
> beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from the
> French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian Wiktionary
> even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact, if
> you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
> notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
> tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].
>
> Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk page on
> mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug, please
> report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.
>
> Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community liaisons
> Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on this
> over the past few months.
>
> --Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)
>
> [1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and
> mediawiki.org
> [2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
> [3]
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
> [5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
> [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
> [7]
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
> [8] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Collaboration
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Dan Garry]

On 11 March 2016 at 10:52, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)  wrote:
>
> Failed my dream :(
>
> Any string in any language in any wikipedia project. How far is my dream?
>

I share your dream! :-)

Unfortunately, the dream is quite far away from reality. Querying every
search index would put a big performance strain on the search servers.
Additionally, it would likely return you a bunch of really irrelevant
results, so there's a lot of user experience implications that would need
to be figured out as well. Discovery is not actively working on this at
present.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Pete Forsyth]

Thank you to the Discovery team -- it seems to me that your work has been
largely overshadowed by political concerns in recent months (which may have
been necessary, but not pleasant).

I'm delighted to see working and useful software emerge, in spite of the
challenging environment that has existed around your work. I'm delighted to
see your substantive engagement (e.g., Dan and Adam, above) with feedback
about the implementation.

Kudos!
-Pete

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Dan Garry  wrote:

> On 11 March 2016 at 11:35, Adam Baso  wrote:
>
> > Hi there - speaking to one thing I'm familiar with, with respect to image
> > selection, we believe https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124225 should
> > address fair use ("non-free") images, although page reparses will happen
> > gradually (pages are cached for up to 30 days or so).
> >
>
> Indeed. I manually triggered a reparse on a page which I knew had a
> non-free page image (by adding a space
> <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario=prev=709579986
> >
> to a part of the page where it didn't affect the layout), and the page
> image was recalculated and is now a free image. Working as intended! :-)
>
> In reply to Geni's query, it is important to point out, however, that
> the English
> Wikipedia guidelines on non-free content
>  includes a list
> of exemptions
> 
> which
> explicitly allows non-free content to be surfaced in search results without
> accompanying fair use rationales. Additionally, English Wikipedia policy is
> not applicable on a global page such as wikipedia.org. Therefore, the
> portal was never actually in violation of any policy. Regardless, as Adam
> noted, for other reasons where this policy *did* apply, T124225
>  was enacted which prevents
> non-free images from appearing as thumbnails in search results.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Samuel Klein]

Thank you - this is wonderful.
On Mar 11, 2016 15:25, "Roan Kattouw"  wrote:

> In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on building a
> cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other wikis in
> the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set of
> wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on all
> wikis as a beta feature.
>
> You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link [2] in
> the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
> "Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
> through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner) will
> now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
> unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and see
> those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation on
> mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages at
> the
> time of this writing.
>
> Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta feature on
> one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However, you
> only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications on a
> wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable the
> beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from the
> French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian Wiktionary
> even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact, if
> you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
> notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
> tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].
>
> Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk page on
> mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug, please
> report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.
>
> Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community liaisons
> Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on this
> over the past few months.
>
> --Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)
>
> [1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and
> mediawiki.org
> [2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
> [3]
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
> [5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
> [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
> [7]
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Dan Garry]

On 11 March 2016 at 11:35, Adam Baso  wrote:

> Hi there - speaking to one thing I'm familiar with, with respect to image
> selection, we believe https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124225 should
> address fair use ("non-free") images, although page reparses will happen
> gradually (pages are cached for up to 30 days or so).
>

Indeed. I manually triggered a reparse on a page which I knew had a
non-free page image (by adding a space

to a part of the page where it didn't affect the layout), and the page
image was recalculated and is now a free image. Working as intended! :-)

In reply to Geni's query, it is important to point out, however, that
the English
Wikipedia guidelines on non-free content
 includes a list
of exemptions
 which
explicitly allows non-free content to be surfaced in search results without
accompanying fair use rationales. Additionally, English Wikipedia policy is
not applicable on a global page such as wikipedia.org. Therefore, the
portal was never actually in violation of any policy. Regardless, as Adam
noted, for other reasons where this policy *did* apply, T124225
 was enacted which prevents
non-free images from appearing as thumbnails in search results.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [African Wikimedians] Wikimania 2016 Schorlarship

[Asaf Bartov]

I hear you, Olaniyan, and understand you are feeling alienated and
demotivated by not receiving a scholarship.  Regarding your assertion that
the selection criteria are unfair, I think that to agree with it would
require you to present an actual argument against one or more of those
criteria, and I invite you to do so.

I also invite you to think about what else might be done to support and
promote the creation and sharing of free knowledge in Africa, beyond
awarding a few more scholarships to Africans.  I remind you that the
Wikimedia Foundation is eager to support mission-aligned work, including
experimentation, through the various grants programs[1], and that there is
a wealth of written materials about program design and best
practices[2][3][4], for African volunteers motivated to do more
programmatic work in Africa.

If you would take me up on this invitation, I would love to hear your
thoughts on work in Africa, beyond Wikimania scholarships.

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start
[2] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_patterns
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Program_Toolkits


On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:32 AM, shola ishola 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am writing this mail in solidarity with all active Wikipedians in Africa
> . I felt rather alienation and de-motivated by the announcement of the
> result of Wikimania Scholarship 2016.  I have reviewed the parameters for
> the selection of candidacy for the above mentioned event and I came to the
> conclusion that the selection is not fair to us (WUGN) and Africa in
> general.  Considering what we did withinn the shortest period of the
> recognition of our group, we are more than qualify to be represented at the
> event.
>
> Perhaps, we may be considered to be too young... I wish to state here...
> what's the benefit of an event that won't be developmental in nature. We
> are the future of the movement. Frankly speaking, Africa remains Virgin in
> term of the wikimedia concepts and projects compare to other continents. In
> my opinion, resources should be channel to assist the continents rather
> than the already developed one.
>
> Lastly, if indeed we are so serious about the projects and the move‎ment.
> Then, special quota and interest should be created for developing
> continents rather than the developed ones.
>
> Submitted.
>
> Olaniyan Olushola
> Director, WUGN
> Treasurer, FOSSFA
> MD, Olbims Consulting
> Phone: +2348154876844
> Email: olaniyanshol...@gmail.com
> Email: olaniyansh...@yahoo.com
> Email:treasu...@fossfa.net
> User page: Olaniyan Olushola
> Facebook: Olaniyan Shola
> Twitter :Olaniyan73
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Ad Huikeshoven]

Roan,

Hartelijk dank voor je bericht. De notificaties over de grenzen van wikis
werken, dank je wel. Ik wens je een rustig en fijn weekend toe,

Met vriendelijke groeten,

Ad Huikeshoven
Op 11 mrt. 2016 21:25 schreef "Roan Kattouw" :

> In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on building a
> cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other wikis in
> the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set of
> wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on all
> wikis as a beta feature.
>
> You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link [2] in
> the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
> "Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
> through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner) will
> now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
> unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and see
> those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation on
> mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages at
> the
> time of this writing.
>
> Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta feature on
> one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However, you
> only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications on a
> wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable the
> beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from the
> French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian Wiktionary
> even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact, if
> you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
> notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
> tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].
>
> Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk page on
> mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug, please
> report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.
>
> Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community liaisons
> Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on this
> over the past few months.
>
> --Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)
>
> [1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and
> mediawiki.org
> [2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
> [3]
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
> [5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
> [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
> [7]
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
> [8] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Collaboration
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Osmar Valdebenito]

Congratulations, Katherine! I hope this great announcement can help us to
move forward building trust again within our movement :)

2016-03-11 1:18 GMT-03:00 Amy Elder :

> You truly deserve this, Katherine, congratulations! I'm excited for and
> confident in the next chapter!
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Rosemary Rein 
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Katherine for your service and leadership  at this critical
> > junction for the organization and our community.
> >
> > Rosemary
> > On Mar 10, 2016 6:56 PM, "Patricio Lorente" 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team has
> >> proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our full
> >> support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications Officer
> >> Katherine Maher (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF))
> >> will step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the
> >> C-levels for their careful consideration in this process, and Katherine
> for
> >> stepping up during this period of transition.
> >>
> >> In choosing an interim ED, the C-levels started by identifying immediate
> >> priorities for the coming months, including building trust, improving
> >> communications, and filling key leadership positions. They felt, and we
> >> agree, that Katherine is the right person to lead the organization
> while it
> >> addresses these and other important issues. Additionally, this will
> allow
> >> the rest of the executive team to focus on critical organizational
> >> functions, including community and engineering management, fundraising,
> and
> >> strengthening our human resources function. You can read more about our
> >> process and thinking here:
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/March_2016_-_Leadership_Team_transition_planning
> >>
> >>
> >> Katherine has been with the Foundation as Chief Communications Officer
> >> for about two years now. During that time, she has developed a versatile
> >> and effective team that serves the needs of the organization and
> movement,
> >> collaborating closely with other departments and the community. She has
> >> thoughtfully introduced new capacities and led her team through
> >> transitions, and played a critical role in shepherding the strategy
> process
> >> and the annual plan, in collaboration with other C-levels. She is known
> for
> >> listening to and empowering the people that she works with.
> >>
> >> For those who don’t know Katherine, she’s been a longtime advocate for
> >> global open communities, culture, and technology. She previously led
> >> advocacy for the international digital rights organization Access Now,
> >> where she worked on freedom of expression, access to information, and
> >> privacy. She has supported the efforts of citizens and governments
> around
> >> the world to deepen transparency and participation in her roles at the
> >> World Bank, National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, and
> >> UNICEF (where her team built wikis for youth participation in major
> global
> >> issues). She is a member of the advisory board of the Open Technology
> Fund.
> >>
> >> With interim leadership in place, our next step as the Board is to move
> >> quickly to plan and implement the search for a permanent Executive
> >> Director. We will be working together over the coming weeks to clarify
> >> roles and responsibilities in this search, and identify the best way for
> >> community and staff to participate.  We want this process to be
> inclusive
> >> and incorporate many voices. We look forward to sharing an update on our
> >> progress toward the end of next week.
> >>
> >> As interim Executive Director, Katherine will report to the Board. Geoff
> >> Brigham will continue serving as Board Secretary, and Jaime Villagomez
> as
> >> Board Treasurer, reporting to the Board in those capacities. As of March
> >> 14, Katherine's reports include the C-team: Geoff Brigham, Jaime
> >> Villagomez, Maggie Dennis, Lisa Gruwell, Joady Lohr, and Wes Moran. The
> >> Communications team will continue to report to Katherine for the time
> >> being, with support from the leadership of Juliet Barbara and Heather
> >> Walls.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >>  Patricio
> >>
> >> Translation notice - This message is available for translation on
> >> Meta-Wiki:
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/10_March_2010_-_Wikimedia_Foundation_executive_transition_update
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Maria O'Neill]

Congratulations, Katherine, and thank you! Great news! :)

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Aaron Halfaker 
wrote:

> Congrats Katherine!  This is certainly welcome news. :)
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Victor Grigas 
> wrote:
>
>> What a good message to wake up to!
>>
>> I'd like to politely suggest along with any decision making ahead, that
>> the board please leave the door open to considering Katherine as permanent
>> executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Tanweer Morshed 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations to Katherine for taking up the responsibility! And at the
>>> same time, thanks to the Board and C-levels for coming up with a
>>> thoughtful
>>> and acceptable decision.
>>> It's great to see someone taking up the charge, who has been involved
>>> with
>>> the movement for a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tanweer
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Nicole Ebber >> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Congratulations, Katherine, and thank you for taking on this
>>> > responsibility! I am glad to read all those congrats and wonderful
>>> > emails from people involved.
>>> >
>>> > And thank you to the C-level team and Board for making this decision,
>>> > and for making it quickly and transparent.
>>> >
>>> > I look forward to working with you, and to warmly welcoming you in
>>> > Berlin in April!
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Nicole
>>> >
>>> > On 11 March 2016 at 11:18, David Parreño Mont >> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > OMG! Many congratulations, Katherine!
>>> > >
>>> > > El dv., 11 març 2016 a les 4:00, Katherine Maher (<
>>> kma...@wikimedia.org
>>> > >)
>>> > > va escriure:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Thank you, Patricio.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their
>>> > confidence in
>>> > >> the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
>>> > >> continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your
>>> passion
>>> > >> and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things
>>> to
>>> > >> behold.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a
>>> > process
>>> > >> of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE))
>>> recently
>>> > >> reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will
>>> need to
>>> > >> work together over these coming months to build that trust, and open
>>> > >> critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the sense
>>> from
>>> > >> many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the
>>> > lessons
>>> > >> we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to advancing
>>> our
>>> > >> global movement.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our
>>> values,
>>> > and
>>> > >> practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim
>>> > period, I
>>> > >> want to get things working well and improve transparency and
>>> > communication,
>>> > >> both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
>>> > >> supportive, fair environment where people can get things done,
>>> engage
>>> > with
>>> > >> their colleagues and community members, and understand how their
>>> work
>>> > has
>>> > >> an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important
>>> > deadlines
>>> > >> for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making
>>> > progress
>>> > >> on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017
>>> Annual
>>> > >> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are
>>> on
>>> > track
>>> > >> to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is
>>> also
>>> > >> underway, with a draft version open for comments until March 18.[3]
>>> Over
>>> > >> the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology
>>> > Officer
>>> > >> (CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to
>>> reinvest
>>> > in
>>> > >> our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize
>>> > them.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want to
>>> > hear
>>> > >> from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim
>>> period.
>>> > This
>>> > >> includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the
>>> organization and
>>> > >> movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is
>>> > prepared
>>> > >> to actively support the Board in the search, and we will work
>>> closely
>>> > with
>>> > >> them to share important information and create opportunities to give
>>> > >> feedback throughout the process.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Just a few weeks ago, we marked the 15th birthday of the
>>> movement.[4]
>>> > >> Millions of people around the world shared their love for
>>> Wikimedia. It

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Deborah Tankersley]

Hello!

I'm very pleased to announce that we've updated the Wikipedia.org
 portal page with a brand new search box that is
more prominent and will now display meta data with images (as available) in
the search results (see attached image).

This was a large effort by the Discovery Portal team to develop a
JavaScript-only version of the language picker, so that JavaScript enabled
browsers will see all the new meta data. Alongside that effort, we also
ensured that in JavaScript (JS) disabled browsers (or older Internet
Explorer versions), our visitors won't have a bad experience when choosing
a language to search in. (Note: in older IE versions and JS disabled
browsers, the type-ahead and meta data search results information will not
be displayed.)

We also implemented a shorter language code (ie: EN for English, ES for
Spanish, etc) to allow for more characters to be typed into the search box.
When a user toggles the language selector, the full language name will be
displayed in the dropdown for easy finding of the language you prefer to
search in. For the more technical minded - I've attached a screenshot of
one of the ways we test our code, visually.

We're interested in hearing your feedback or if you have any questions!

On behalf of the very happy Wikipedia.org Portal Team,

Deb

--
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Product Manager, Discovery
Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Amy Elder]

You truly deserve this, Katherine, congratulations! I'm excited for and
confident in the next chapter!

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Rosemary Rein  wrote:

> Thank you Katherine for your service and leadership  at this critical
> junction for the organization and our community.
>
> Rosemary
> On Mar 10, 2016 6:56 PM, "Patricio Lorente" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team has
>> proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our full
>> support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications Officer
>> Katherine Maher (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF))
>> will step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the
>> C-levels for their careful consideration in this process, and Katherine for
>> stepping up during this period of transition.
>>
>> In choosing an interim ED, the C-levels started by identifying immediate
>> priorities for the coming months, including building trust, improving
>> communications, and filling key leadership positions. They felt, and we
>> agree, that Katherine is the right person to lead the organization while it
>> addresses these and other important issues. Additionally, this will allow
>> the rest of the executive team to focus on critical organizational
>> functions, including community and engineering management, fundraising, and
>> strengthening our human resources function. You can read more about our
>> process and thinking here:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/March_2016_-_Leadership_Team_transition_planning
>>
>>
>> Katherine has been with the Foundation as Chief Communications Officer
>> for about two years now. During that time, she has developed a versatile
>> and effective team that serves the needs of the organization and movement,
>> collaborating closely with other departments and the community. She has
>> thoughtfully introduced new capacities and led her team through
>> transitions, and played a critical role in shepherding the strategy process
>> and the annual plan, in collaboration with other C-levels. She is known for
>> listening to and empowering the people that she works with.
>>
>> For those who don’t know Katherine, she’s been a longtime advocate for
>> global open communities, culture, and technology. She previously led
>> advocacy for the international digital rights organization Access Now,
>> where she worked on freedom of expression, access to information, and
>> privacy. She has supported the efforts of citizens and governments around
>> the world to deepen transparency and participation in her roles at the
>> World Bank, National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, and
>> UNICEF (where her team built wikis for youth participation in major global
>> issues). She is a member of the advisory board of the Open Technology Fund.
>>
>> With interim leadership in place, our next step as the Board is to move
>> quickly to plan and implement the search for a permanent Executive
>> Director. We will be working together over the coming weeks to clarify
>> roles and responsibilities in this search, and identify the best way for
>> community and staff to participate.  We want this process to be inclusive
>> and incorporate many voices. We look forward to sharing an update on our
>> progress toward the end of next week.
>>
>> As interim Executive Director, Katherine will report to the Board. Geoff
>> Brigham will continue serving as Board Secretary, and Jaime Villagomez as
>> Board Treasurer, reporting to the Board in those capacities. As of March
>> 14, Katherine's reports include the C-team: Geoff Brigham, Jaime
>> Villagomez, Maggie Dennis, Lisa Gruwell, Joady Lohr, and Wes Moran. The
>> Communications team will continue to report to Katherine for the time
>> being, with support from the leadership of Juliet Barbara and Heather
>> Walls.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>  Patricio
>>
>> Translation notice - This message is available for translation on
>> Meta-Wiki:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/10_March_2010_-_Wikimedia_Foundation_executive_transition_update
>> --
>>
>>
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[Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

[Roan Kattouw]

In late 2015 and early 2016, the Collaboration team worked on building a
cross-wiki notification feature: listing notifications from other wikis in
the notification panel. We made this feature available on a small set of
wikis [1] initially, and about six hours ago we made it available on all
wikis as a beta feature.

You can enable cross-wiki notifications by clicking the "Beta" link [2] in
the top right corner (or top left in RTL languages) and enabling the
"Enhanced notifications" setting. The notification panels (accessible
through the bell and speech bubble icons in the top right/left corner) will
now display an additional item telling you which other wikis you have
unread notifications on, and you can click this item to expand it and see
those notifications [3]. For more information, see the documentation on
mediawiki.org [4], with mostly complete translations in 13 languages at the
time of this writing.

Because we don't have cross-wiki preferences, enabling the beta feature on
one wiki doesn't automatically enable it on any other wiki. However, you
only have to enable the beta feature to see cross-wiki notifications on a
wiki, not to get them from that wiki. For example, if you only enable the
beta feature on the French Wikipedia, you will see notifications from the
French Wikisource, the Spanish Wikipedia and the Upper Sorbian Wiktionary
even if you haven't enabled the beta feature on those wikis. In fact, if
you've had an account for a while, you are likely to see some very old
notifications from wikis you haven't visited in years; Magnus Manske
tweeted a screenshot of this yesterday [5].

Please try this out and let us know what you think! There's a talk page on
mediawiki.org [6] where you can leave feedback. If you find a bug, please
report it on Phabricator [7] or on the feedback page.

Thanks a lot to the Collaboration team [8] as well as community liaisons
Nick Wilson (Quiddity) and Benoît Evellin (Trizek) for their work on this
over the past few months.

--Roan Kattouw (User:Catrope)

[1] All French wikis, all Hebrew wikis, Commons, Wikidata and mediawiki.org
[2] Or go to [[Special:Preferences]] and click the "Beta features" tab
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notification_panel_with_cross-wiki_notification.png
[4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Cross-wiki
[5] https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/707712047065210882
[6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Notifications
[7]
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projectPHIDs=Notifications
[8] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff#Collaboration
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Adam Baso]

>
> The image thumbnail thing fails to filter our fair use images along
> with the usual lack of author and licensing information.


Hi there - speaking to one thing I'm familiar with, with respect to image
selection, we believe https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124225 should
address fair use ("non-free") images, although page reparses will happen
gradually (pages are cached for up to 30 days or so).

-Adam
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[geni]

On 11 March 2016 at 18:18, Deborah Tankersley  wrote:
> We're interested in hearing your feedback or if you have any questions! (Note
> 2: My apologies for not getting this email out yesterday, but I had had
> issues with size limitations of my screenshots.)
>
> On behalf of the very happy Wikipedia.org Portal Team,
>
> Deb


The image thumbnail thing fails to filter our fair use images along
with the usual lack of author and licensing information.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%E0%B4%B6%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%BB+%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%81%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%BE%E0%B5%BB=Go

Failed my dream :(

Any string in any language in any wikipedia project. How far is my dream?



On 11 March 2016 at 23:48, Deborah Tankersley 
wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm very pleased to announce that we've updated the Wikipedia.org
>  portal page with a brand new search box that is
> more prominent and will now display meta data with images (as available) in
> the search results (link
>  >).
>
> This was a large effort by the Discovery Portal team to develop a
> JavaScript-only version of the language picker, so that JavaScript enabled
> browsers will see all the new meta data. Alongside that effort, we also
> ensured that in JavaScript (JS) disabled browsers (or older Internet
> Explorer versions), our visitors won't have a bad experience when choosing
> a language to search in. (Note 1: in older IE versions and JS disabled
> browsers, the type-ahead and meta data search results information will not
> be displayed.)
>
> We also implemented a shorter language code (ie: EN for English, ES for
> Spanish, etc) to allow for more characters to be typed into the search box.
> When a user toggles the language selector, the full language name will be
> displayed in the dropdown for easy finding of the language you prefer to
> search in. For the more technical minded - I've also uploaded, to Commons,
> a screenshot
>  of
> one
> of the ways we test our code, visually.
>
> We're interested in hearing your feedback or if you have any questions!
> (Note
> 2: My apologies for not getting this email out yesterday, but I had had
> issues with size limitations of my screenshots.)
>
> On behalf of the very happy Wikipedia.org Portal Team,
>
> Deb
> --
> Deb Tankersley
> Product Manager, Discovery
> Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Ad Huikeshoven]

2016-03-11 3:59 GMT+01:00 Katherine Maher :

> Thank you, Patricio.
>
> I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their confidence in
> the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
> continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your passion
> and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things to
> behold.
>
> As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately.


Dear Katherine,

The board of Wikimedia Nederland had a regular meeting on Thursday evening.
We wrapped up hours before the announcement of Patricio and your message.
Fellow board members have had their worries expressed about what was going
on. We were not aware about this news coming. I haven't checked with my
fellow board members, but I'm sure they allow me to congratulate you on
behalf of the whole board and wish you lots of strength and wisdom during
the interim transition period. I'm looking forward to meet you again in
Berlin at the Wikimedia Conference 2016.

Have a nice weekend,

Ad Huikeshoven
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

[Deborah Tankersley]

Hello!

I'm very pleased to announce that we've updated the Wikipedia.org
 portal page with a brand new search box that is
more prominent and will now display meta data with images (as available) in
the search results (link
).

This was a large effort by the Discovery Portal team to develop a
JavaScript-only version of the language picker, so that JavaScript enabled
browsers will see all the new meta data. Alongside that effort, we also
ensured that in JavaScript (JS) disabled browsers (or older Internet
Explorer versions), our visitors won't have a bad experience when choosing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

[David Cuenca Tudela]

Andreas,

Of course it is a Wikipedia-centric analysis, because citing the article
you provide (bold in the original):
*Wikidata presents Wikipedia as structured data*
Wikidata does not exist in isolation. In symbiosis with existing projects
it acts as a catalyst, or at least that is one of the goals.

I am aware of the risks of the CC0 license reuse, and of the possible
"garbage dump" effect, but so far the process of data import/correlation
has been highly human supervised, with initiatives like the Wikidata game:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/#
or Mix'n'match: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mix'n'match
There is also a process for approving data imports, it is not such a wild
place...

So far it is unclear how the relationship with external consumers will
evolve, maybe it is a new opportunity for them to participate in the data
curation process, either directly or through entirely new feedback loops
that are not possible in the traditional Wikipedia setting. For instance:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase_Quality_Extensions

All in all, I find very positive that you bring this issues into public
awareness, it gives a broader perspective of the limits of the platform,
both technical and social. I think there is still a lot to discuss about
it, and it is good to have the conversation rolling.

Cheers,
Micru

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> Micru,
>
> That seems a very Wikipedia-centric analysis, as though Wikidata were only
> there to feed Wikipedia. I think most re-users of Wikidata will be
> elsewhere, and indeed be passive consumers and commercial rebranders whose
> audience is unlikely to feed back into Wikidata.
>
> The following article in The Register, which resulted from a conversation
> with Andy Mabbett, explains this quite well:
>
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/25/wikidata_turns_the_world_into_a_database/
>
>
> There was also another media story last week, about a project by Dutch firm
> Lab1100 (complete with some sceptical comments about data quality). It's a
> Wikidata-based map of historical military battles fought across the world:
>
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/12180516/Geography-of-violence-Map-records-every-battle-ever-fought.html
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35685889
>
> So the commercial potential is huge.
>
> I'm not blind to the argument that use will lead to correction, but it has
> to be balanced against the risks of "garbage in, garbage out", given the
> huge amount of data that will eventually accumulate and need to be curated
> by volunteers, and bearing in mind that the CC-0 licence has the potential
> of obscuring the origin of the data, cutting the very feedback loop your
> argument relies on for a substantial subset of end users.
>
> Andreas
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM, David Cuenca Tudela 
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Andreas Kolbe 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wikidata and Wikipedia have very different purposes: Wikipedia is an
> > > encyclopedia to be read; Wikidata is a database. No one reads a
> database.
> > > The whole purpose of a database is to have its content multiplied and
> > > surfaced elsewhere. Therefore it is even more essential that its
> content
> > > stand on solid ground.
> > >
> >
> > I disagree with that. In my opinion Wikipedia and Wikidata do not have
> > different purposes, they complement each other.
> > In an ideal world all the data present in Wikidata should surface in
> > Wikipedia, and be referenced from there.
> > However it is expected that the data comes already referenced at
> > *statement* level from Wikidata, when Wikipedia doesn't comply with those
> > standards either. This assumes that the Wikidata community is a generator
> > of perfectly referenced facts and that the Wikipedia communities are mere
> > consumers of data. This is a toxic view because it goes against the core
> > principle of wikis as a tool for taking ownership of the means of
> knowledge
> > aggregation and distribution.
> >
> > It has to be noted too, that in Wikidata many items have external
> > identifiers, references, and sources, and they apply to the whole
> > information contained, not just one single statement, that is something
> > that should be taken into account when speaking about reliability.
> >
> > Besides this discussion is trite. Quality comes from use, research and
> > oversight, and without tools for working with wikidata from wikipedia,
> like
> > connected infoboxes, there is no point in discussing about data quality,
> > because as you said "no one reads a database"... except for a few people
> > like me I guess :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Micru
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Kalliope Tsouroupidou]

Congratulations Katherine. May the force be with you 

K.

On Friday, 11 March 2016, Jack Rabah  wrote:

> Congratulations Katherine! Mabrook.
>
> On Friday, March 11, 2016, C. Scott Ananian  > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Katherine Maher 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017 Annual
>>> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review
>>>
>>
>> It might be best if you can manage to deliver it on March 30th. ;)  The
>> next day tends to be a bit foolish.
>>
>> At any rate: Congratulations!  Let's hope this is the start of the
>> good-news potion of 2016.
>>  --scott
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats update

[Itzik - Wikimedia Israel]

I don't like the idea of others chapters influence others with their votes.
We have many candidates and a lot of politics behind.

WMIL will have their board meeting at the end of the month, but if the case
is that the votes are public, I'll advice my board to not publish his vote
until the last moment in order to have fair election, without any chapter
looking on the others and consider whatever to vote to each of the
candidates because of the number of votes they already have.

I'll truly advising others to do the same.

Itzik


- Sent from mobile
On Mar 11, 2016 12:05, "Chris Keating"  wrote:

> Hi Itzik,
>
> When the process was being discussed in the Autumn, there wasn't any
> consensus to change it to a fully secret ballot. So, as last time, votes
> will be cast on a wiki-table on the Chapters wiki.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel <
> it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > How and where the chapter will vote?
> > I offered to do it privately, in order to avoid current votes to
> influence
> > others chapters.
> >
> > Itzik
> >
> > - Sent from mobile
> > On Mar 10, 2016 15:35, "Chris Keating" 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > The deadline for nominations in the Affiliate Selected Board Seats
> > process
> > > passed on Tuesday, and 10 candidates have been nominated:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations
> > >
> > > This is more candidates than any previous affiliate/chapter-selected
> > > process, and I am pleased to note that 4 of the candidates are women
> and
> > 5
> > > are from countries not in North American or Western Europe. All
> > candidates
> > > who have received one or more endorsements from voting organisations by
> > 23
> > > March will be added to the ballot for the election.
> > >
> > > While only Chapters and the single Thematic Organization have a vote in
> > > this election, all community members are invited to participate by
> asking
> > > questions to the candidates, here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Questions
> > >
> > > Help translating candidate statements into other languages is also much
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > (For more details about this process, please see here:
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016 )
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > > Chris Keating
> > > (one of the election facilitators)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On 2016-03-11 18:00, Sydney Poore wrote:

Hello Yaroslav

Thanks for your reply.

My point is that there is no clear strategy or process for prioritizing
which pages get translated. So, perhaps it is easy for some people to 
be

mixed up.

But I'm pretty confident that I understand the issues, and I'm not 
getting

anything mixed up. :-)

<...>

This dynamic in the wikimedia movement needs to change. It is 
exclusionary

and unwelcoming.

We can not reach the people that the wikimedia movement needs to reach 
if

the burden of translation of these important official WMF processes a
completely volunteer process.

Going forward, I would like to see the percentage of pages translated 
as a

metric that is tracked, reported, and discussed regularly.

Warm regards,
Sydney



Thank you, it more clear now.

However, my point is we can not translate everything to all languages. 
we do not have and we will never have resources for that. We need to 
prioritize. I would say in the case of the upcoming elections, it would 
be great to know what languages we need to translate the documents into 
- the languages spoken by the members of boards of the organizations who 
actually intend to vote, and only in the case they do not speak English. 
I asked this already a week ago in this very same topic of the mailing 
list, and got a reply from someone (was it Amir? - sorry, I can not 
easily check it now) that there is a generic list of languages important 
messages get translated into. In this situation, I would say, we need 
first to make a custom list for these elections - hopefully it is more 
narrow than the generic list, and then see what is the best way to 
proceed. I am not sure there is a general solutions - probably different 
documents just need to be translated into different sets of languages.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

[Sydney Poore]

Hello Yaroslav

Thanks for your reply.

My point is that there is no clear strategy or process for prioritizing
which pages get translated. So, perhaps it is easy for some people to be
mixed up.

But I'm pretty confident that I understand the issues, and I'm not getting
anything mixed up. :-)

Looking at the upcoming election's pages on Meta, I see that many of the
basic pages that describe the election are not translated into more than a
few languages and those are not up to date.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats_election_FAQ#What_is_the_chapters_wiki.3F

Additionally, I feel strongly that most everyone in the wikimedia movement
should have the opportunity to read the candidate statements and Q of the
future WMF Trustees. But right now we don't have anyway of making sure that
even the languages of voting Chapters or thematic organizations have a good
method to get it done in a timely way.

It is troubling to me that an Affiliated organization's Board needs to be
proficient in English to do the translation. Not to mention that the Board
members don't select the timing of this election and may have serious
limitations on their time that prevents doing the translation.

This dynamic in the wikimedia movement needs to change. It is exclusionary
and unwelcoming.

We can not reach the people that the wikimedia movement needs to reach if
the burden of translation of these important official WMF processes a
completely volunteer process.

Going forward, I would like to see the percentage of pages translated as a
metric that is tracked, reported, and discussed regularly.

Warm regards,
Sydney











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User:FloNight
Wikipedian in Residence
at Cochrane Collaboration

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
wrote:

> On 2016-03-11 15:58, Sydney Poore wrote:
>
>> I agree with antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv that broader translation of WMF
>> BoT
>> election pages is important.
>>
>> To reach the goal where "every single person on the planet is given free
>> access to the sum of all human knowledge" the wikimedia movement needs to
>> prioritize translation as a regular part of key processes.
>>
>> We are failing at this today. The wikimedia movement lacks a clear
>> strategy
>> to shift the cost (funds and human resources) from non-English speaking
>> volunteers to the broader wikimedia movement.
>>
>> I welcome a hearty discussion about how the Affiliate-selected Board of
>> Trustee election can be made more accessible to more non-English speaking
>> people. And also a larger discussion as part of the WMF Strategic Plan
>> discussion, and the upcoming WMf Annual Plan.
>> Warm regards,
>> Sydney
>> User:FloNight
>>
>> Sydney Poore
>> User:FloNight
>> Wikipedian in Residence
>> at Cochrane Collaboration
>>
>>
> Hi Sydney,
>
> as I mentioned earlier, I am afraid there are two things mixed up here.
> There a big step between making the candidate statements and answers to
> questions to all individuals who are eligible to vote at the forthcoming
> elections, and providing the sum of human knowledge in all languages.
>
> In practical terms, every person who speaks Dutch and is a member of
> Wikimedia Nederland / Belgium also speaks English and would be able to
> understand the candidate statements. On the other hand, Dutch as a language
> is spoken by 20M people, and we need of course to consider support of Dutch
> Wikipedia / sister projects / Wikidata, Commons, and Mediawiki interface
> with a high priority. As another example, I believe we have zero Quechua
> speakers who are eligible to vote, and translating statements into Quechuan
> languages would be a loss of time. On the other hand, these languages have
> 9 million speakers, and definitely need their own projects.
>
> I agree that both should be discussed, but let us separate the things. One
> issue is a global priority of languages in terms of the projects etc and
> whether they need to be supported, another issue is whether there are some
> languages the statements of the candidates should be urgently translated to
> in order to help the voters decide.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Katherine Maher 
wrote:

> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017 Annual
> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review
>

It might be best if you can manage to deliver it on March 30th. ;)  The
next day tends to be a bit foolish.

At any rate: Congratulations!  Let's hope this is the start of the
good-news potion of 2016.
 --scott
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Derek V.Giroulle]

I second that

On 11-03-16 16:10, Victor Grigas wrote:

What a good message to wake up to!

I'd like to politely suggest along with any decision making ahead, that the
board please leave the door open to considering Katherine as permanent
executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation.





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

[Andreas Kolbe]

Micru,

That seems a very Wikipedia-centric analysis, as though Wikidata were only
there to feed Wikipedia. I think most re-users of Wikidata will be
elsewhere, and indeed be passive consumers and commercial rebranders whose
audience is unlikely to feed back into Wikidata.

The following article in The Register, which resulted from a conversation
with Andy Mabbett, explains this quite well:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/25/wikidata_turns_the_world_into_a_database/


There was also another media story last week, about a project by Dutch firm
Lab1100 (complete with some sceptical comments about data quality). It's a
Wikidata-based map of historical military battles fought across the world:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/12180516/Geography-of-violence-Map-records-every-battle-ever-fought.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35685889

So the commercial potential is huge.

I'm not blind to the argument that use will lead to correction, but it has
to be balanced against the risks of "garbage in, garbage out", given the
huge amount of data that will eventually accumulate and need to be curated
by volunteers, and bearing in mind that the CC-0 licence has the potential
of obscuring the origin of the data, cutting the very feedback loop your
argument relies on for a substantial subset of end users.

Andreas

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM, David Cuenca Tudela 
wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Andreas Kolbe 
> wrote:
>
> > Wikidata and Wikipedia have very different purposes: Wikipedia is an
> > encyclopedia to be read; Wikidata is a database. No one reads a database.
> > The whole purpose of a database is to have its content multiplied and
> > surfaced elsewhere. Therefore it is even more essential that its content
> > stand on solid ground.
> >
>
> I disagree with that. In my opinion Wikipedia and Wikidata do not have
> different purposes, they complement each other.
> In an ideal world all the data present in Wikidata should surface in
> Wikipedia, and be referenced from there.
> However it is expected that the data comes already referenced at
> *statement* level from Wikidata, when Wikipedia doesn't comply with those
> standards either. This assumes that the Wikidata community is a generator
> of perfectly referenced facts and that the Wikipedia communities are mere
> consumers of data. This is a toxic view because it goes against the core
> principle of wikis as a tool for taking ownership of the means of knowledge
> aggregation and distribution.
>
> It has to be noted too, that in Wikidata many items have external
> identifiers, references, and sources, and they apply to the whole
> information contained, not just one single statement, that is something
> that should be taken into account when speaking about reliability.
>
> Besides this discussion is trite. Quality comes from use, research and
> oversight, and without tools for working with wikidata from wikipedia, like
> connected infoboxes, there is no point in discussing about data quality,
> because as you said "no one reads a database"... except for a few people
> like me I guess :)
>
> Cheers,
> Micru
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Florence Devouard]

Excellent !

All my support Katherine !

Anthere

PS: Hopefully the list will regain a bit of peace and be productive again ?

Le 11/03/16 03:59, Katherine Maher a écrit :

Thank you, Patricio.

I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their confidence in
the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your passion
and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things to
behold.

As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a process
of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)) recently
reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will need to
work together over these coming months to build that trust, and open
critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the sense from
many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the lessons
we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to advancing our
global movement.

At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our values, and
practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim period, I
want to get things working well and improve transparency and communication,
both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
supportive, fair environment where people can get things done, engage with
their colleagues and community members, and understand how their work has
an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important deadlines
for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making progress
on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.

We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017 Annual
Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are on track
to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is also
underway, with a draft version open for comments until March 18.[3] Over
the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology Officer
(CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to reinvest in
our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize them.

To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want to hear
from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim period. This
includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the organization and
movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is prepared
to actively support the Board in the search, and we will work closely with
them to share important information and create opportunities to give
feedback throughout the process.

Just a few weeks ago, we marked the 15th birthday of the movement.[4]
Millions of people around the world shared their love for Wikimedia. It was
a celebration of why we do what we do, and how much joy the movement brings
people everywhere. That’s something I try to keep in mind every day.

Yours sincerely,
Katherine

[1] https://twitter.com/nightrose/status/660043284841107457
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Combined_strategy_and_annual_plan_timeline
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Draft_WMF_Strategy
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Patricio Lorente <
patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello all,

I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team has
proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our full
support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications Officer
Katherine Maher (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF))
will step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the
C-levels for their careful consideration in this process, and Katherine for
stepping up during this period of transition.

In choosing an interim ED, the C-levels started by identifying immediate
priorities for the coming months, including building trust, improving
communications, and filling key leadership positions. They felt, and we
agree, that Katherine is the right person to lead the organization while it
addresses these and other important issues. Additionally, this will allow
the rest of the executive team to focus on critical organizational
functions, including community and engineering management, fundraising, and
strengthening our human resources function. You can read more about our
process and thinking here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/March_2016_-_Leadership_Team_transition_planning


Katherine has been with the Foundation as Chief Communications Officer for
about two years now. During that time, she has developed a versatile and
effective team that serves the needs of the organization and movement,
collaborating closely with other departments and the community. She has
thoughtfully introduced new capacities and led her team through
transitions, and played a critical role in shepherding the strategy process
and the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Alex Wang]

Thank you, Katherine! This announcement has me breathing a huge sigh of
relief and fills me with optimism for what's to come.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Maria O'Neill 
wrote:

> Congratulations, Katherine, and thank you! Great news! :)
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Aaron Halfaker 
> wrote:
>
>> Congrats Katherine!  This is certainly welcome news. :)
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Victor Grigas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What a good message to wake up to!
>>>
>>> I'd like to politely suggest along with any decision making ahead, that
>>> the board please leave the door open to considering Katherine as permanent
>>> executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Tanweer Morshed >> > wrote:
>>>
 Congratulations to Katherine for taking up the responsibility! And at
 the
 same time, thanks to the Board and C-levels for coming up with a
 thoughtful
 and acceptable decision.
 It's great to see someone taking up the charge, who has been involved
 with
 the movement for a long time.


 Regards,
 Tanweer

 On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Nicole Ebber <
 nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de>
 wrote:

 > Congratulations, Katherine, and thank you for taking on this
 > responsibility! I am glad to read all those congrats and wonderful
 > emails from people involved.
 >
 > And thank you to the C-level team and Board for making this decision,
 > and for making it quickly and transparent.
 >
 > I look forward to working with you, and to warmly welcoming you in
 > Berlin in April!
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Nicole
 >
 > On 11 March 2016 at 11:18, David Parreño Mont <
 david.parr...@gmail.com>
 > wrote:
 > > OMG! Many congratulations, Katherine!
 > >
 > > El dv., 11 març 2016 a les 4:00, Katherine Maher (<
 kma...@wikimedia.org
 > >)
 > > va escriure:
 > >
 > >> Thank you, Patricio.
 > >>
 > >> I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their
 > confidence in
 > >> the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff
 for
 > >> continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your
 passion
 > >> and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things
 to
 > >> behold.
 > >>
 > >> As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a
 > process
 > >> of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE))
 recently
 > >> reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will
 need to
 > >> work together over these coming months to build that trust, and
 open
 > >> critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the
 sense from
 > >> many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the
 > lessons
 > >> we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to
 advancing our
 > >> global movement.
 > >>
 > >> At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our
 values,
 > and
 > >> practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim
 > period, I
 > >> want to get things working well and improve transparency and
 > communication,
 > >> both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
 > >> supportive, fair environment where people can get things done,
 engage
 > with
 > >> their colleagues and community members, and understand how their
 work
 > has
 > >> an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important
 > deadlines
 > >> for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making
 > progress
 > >> on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.
 > >>
 > >> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017
 Annual
 > >> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are
 on
 > track
 > >> to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is
 also
 > >> underway, with a draft version open for comments until March
 18.[3] Over
 > >> the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology
 > Officer
 > >> (CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to
 reinvest
 > in
 > >> our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize
 > them.
 > >>
 > >> To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want
 to
 > hear
 > >> from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim
 period.
 > This
 > >> includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the
 organization and
 > >> movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is
 > prepared
 > >> to actively support 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Aaron Halfaker]

Congrats Katherine!  This is certainly welcome news. :)

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Victor Grigas 
wrote:

> What a good message to wake up to!
>
> I'd like to politely suggest along with any decision making ahead, that
> the board please leave the door open to considering Katherine as permanent
> executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Tanweer Morshed 
> wrote:
>
>> Congratulations to Katherine for taking up the responsibility! And at the
>> same time, thanks to the Board and C-levels for coming up with a
>> thoughtful
>> and acceptable decision.
>> It's great to see someone taking up the charge, who has been involved with
>> the movement for a long time.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tanweer
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Nicole Ebber 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Congratulations, Katherine, and thank you for taking on this
>> > responsibility! I am glad to read all those congrats and wonderful
>> > emails from people involved.
>> >
>> > And thank you to the C-level team and Board for making this decision,
>> > and for making it quickly and transparent.
>> >
>> > I look forward to working with you, and to warmly welcoming you in
>> > Berlin in April!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Nicole
>> >
>> > On 11 March 2016 at 11:18, David Parreño Mont 
>> > wrote:
>> > > OMG! Many congratulations, Katherine!
>> > >
>> > > El dv., 11 març 2016 a les 4:00, Katherine Maher (<
>> kma...@wikimedia.org
>> > >)
>> > > va escriure:
>> > >
>> > >> Thank you, Patricio.
>> > >>
>> > >> I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their
>> > confidence in
>> > >> the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
>> > >> continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your
>> passion
>> > >> and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things to
>> > >> behold.
>> > >>
>> > >> As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a
>> > process
>> > >> of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE))
>> recently
>> > >> reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will need
>> to
>> > >> work together over these coming months to build that trust, and open
>> > >> critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the sense
>> from
>> > >> many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the
>> > lessons
>> > >> we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to advancing
>> our
>> > >> global movement.
>> > >>
>> > >> At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our
>> values,
>> > and
>> > >> practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim
>> > period, I
>> > >> want to get things working well and improve transparency and
>> > communication,
>> > >> both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
>> > >> supportive, fair environment where people can get things done, engage
>> > with
>> > >> their colleagues and community members, and understand how their work
>> > has
>> > >> an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important
>> > deadlines
>> > >> for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making
>> > progress
>> > >> on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.
>> > >>
>> > >> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017
>> Annual
>> > >> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are on
>> > track
>> > >> to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is also
>> > >> underway, with a draft version open for comments until March 18.[3]
>> Over
>> > >> the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology
>> > Officer
>> > >> (CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to
>> reinvest
>> > in
>> > >> our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize
>> > them.
>> > >>
>> > >> To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want to
>> > hear
>> > >> from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim period.
>> > This
>> > >> includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the organization
>> and
>> > >> movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is
>> > prepared
>> > >> to actively support the Board in the search, and we will work closely
>> > with
>> > >> them to share important information and create opportunities to give
>> > >> feedback throughout the process.
>> > >>
>> > >> Just a few weeks ago, we marked the 15th birthday of the movement.[4]
>> > >> Millions of people around the world shared their love for Wikimedia.
>> It
>> > was
>> > >> a celebration of why we do what we do, and how much joy the movement
>> > brings
>> > >> people everywhere. That’s something I try to keep in mind every day.
>> > >>
>> > >> Yours sincerely,
>> > >> Katherine
>> > >>
>> > >> [1] https://twitter.com/nightrose/status/660043284841107457
>> > >> [2]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

[Cristian Consonni]

Hi,

2016-03-11 15:58 GMT+01:00 Sydney Poore :
> I agree with antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv that broader translation of WMF BoT
> election pages is important.

I agree. FWIW I havce asked in the WM-IT members mailing list if
somebody can help with Italian translation. As a member of the board
of WM-IT if our members request it I would also been open to consider
to pay for a translator.

C

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On 2016-03-11 15:58, Sydney Poore wrote:
I agree with antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv that broader translation of WMF 
BoT

election pages is important.

To reach the goal where "every single person on the planet is given 
free
access to the sum of all human knowledge" the wikimedia movement needs 
to

prioritize translation as a regular part of key processes.

We are failing at this today. The wikimedia movement lacks a clear 
strategy

to shift the cost (funds and human resources) from non-English speaking
volunteers to the broader wikimedia movement.

I welcome a hearty discussion about how the Affiliate-selected Board of
Trustee election can be made more accessible to more non-English 
speaking

people. And also a larger discussion as part of the WMF Strategic Plan
discussion, and the upcoming WMf Annual Plan.
Warm regards,
Sydney
User:FloNight

Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
Wikipedian in Residence
at Cochrane Collaboration



Hi Sydney,

as I mentioned earlier, I am afraid there are two things mixed up here. 
There a big step between making the candidate statements and answers to 
questions to all individuals who are eligible to vote at the forthcoming 
elections, and providing the sum of human knowledge in all languages.


In practical terms, every person who speaks Dutch and is a member of 
Wikimedia Nederland / Belgium also speaks English and would be able to 
understand the candidate statements. On the other hand, Dutch as a 
language is spoken by 20M people, and we need of course to consider 
support of Dutch Wikipedia / sister projects / Wikidata, Commons, and 
Mediawiki interface with a high priority. As another example, I believe 
we have zero Quechua speakers who are eligible to vote, and translating 
statements into Quechuan languages would be a loss of time. On the other 
hand, these languages have 9 million speakers, and definitely need their 
own projects.


I agree that both should be discussed, but let us separate the things. 
One issue is a global priority of languages in terms of the projects etc 
and whether they need to be supported, another issue is whether there 
are some languages the statements of the candidates should be urgently 
translated to in order to help the voters decide.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Victor Grigas]

What a good message to wake up to!

I'd like to politely suggest along with any decision making ahead, that the
board please leave the door open to considering Katherine as permanent
executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation.


On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Tanweer Morshed 
wrote:

> Congratulations to Katherine for taking up the responsibility! And at the
> same time, thanks to the Board and C-levels for coming up with a thoughtful
> and acceptable decision.
> It's great to see someone taking up the charge, who has been involved with
> the movement for a long time.
>
>
> Regards,
> Tanweer
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Nicole Ebber 
> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations, Katherine, and thank you for taking on this
> > responsibility! I am glad to read all those congrats and wonderful
> > emails from people involved.
> >
> > And thank you to the C-level team and Board for making this decision,
> > and for making it quickly and transparent.
> >
> > I look forward to working with you, and to warmly welcoming you in
> > Berlin in April!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nicole
> >
> > On 11 March 2016 at 11:18, David Parreño Mont 
> > wrote:
> > > OMG! Many congratulations, Katherine!
> > >
> > > El dv., 11 març 2016 a les 4:00, Katherine Maher (<
> kma...@wikimedia.org
> > >)
> > > va escriure:
> > >
> > >> Thank you, Patricio.
> > >>
> > >> I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their
> > confidence in
> > >> the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
> > >> continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your
> passion
> > >> and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things to
> > >> behold.
> > >>
> > >> As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a
> > process
> > >> of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE))
> recently
> > >> reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will need
> to
> > >> work together over these coming months to build that trust, and open
> > >> critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the sense
> from
> > >> many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the
> > lessons
> > >> we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to advancing
> our
> > >> global movement.
> > >>
> > >> At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our values,
> > and
> > >> practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim
> > period, I
> > >> want to get things working well and improve transparency and
> > communication,
> > >> both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
> > >> supportive, fair environment where people can get things done, engage
> > with
> > >> their colleagues and community members, and understand how their work
> > has
> > >> an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important
> > deadlines
> > >> for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making
> > progress
> > >> on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.
> > >>
> > >> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017
> Annual
> > >> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are on
> > track
> > >> to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is also
> > >> underway, with a draft version open for comments until March 18.[3]
> Over
> > >> the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology
> > Officer
> > >> (CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to reinvest
> > in
> > >> our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize
> > them.
> > >>
> > >> To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want to
> > hear
> > >> from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim period.
> > This
> > >> includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the organization
> and
> > >> movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is
> > prepared
> > >> to actively support the Board in the search, and we will work closely
> > with
> > >> them to share important information and create opportunities to give
> > >> feedback throughout the process.
> > >>
> > >> Just a few weeks ago, we marked the 15th birthday of the movement.[4]
> > >> Millions of people around the world shared their love for Wikimedia.
> It
> > was
> > >> a celebration of why we do what we do, and how much joy the movement
> > brings
> > >> people everywhere. That’s something I try to keep in mind every day.
> > >>
> > >> Yours sincerely,
> > >> Katherine
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://twitter.com/nightrose/status/660043284841107457
> > >> [2]
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Combined_strategy_and_annual_plan_timeline
> > >> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Draft_WMF_Strategy
> > >> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

[Sydney Poore]

I agree with antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv that broader translation of WMF BoT
election pages is important.

To reach the goal where "every single person on the planet is given free
access to the sum of all human knowledge" the wikimedia movement needs to
prioritize translation as a regular part of key processes.

We are failing at this today. The wikimedia movement lacks a clear strategy
to shift the cost (funds and human resources) from non-English speaking
volunteers to the broader wikimedia movement.

I welcome a hearty discussion about how the Affiliate-selected Board of
Trustee election can be made more accessible to more non-English speaking
people. And also a larger discussion as part of the WMF Strategic Plan
discussion, and the upcoming WMf Annual Plan.
Warm regards,
Sydney
User:FloNight

Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
Wikipedian in Residence
at Cochrane Collaboration

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 2:36 AM, attolippip  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> As you are (probably) aware, the 2016 affiliate-selected Board seats
> process has started already. And I do think that the process is broken
> somewhere [1]. The democracy principles even in my country, though it is
> far from being a role model for transparency and governance, state that
> people are equal and they have rights and responsibilities. But the process
> at the moment is not fair and equal footing is not provided for. It is
> great to have dedicated friends across the Movement that can translate your
> statement into German or Chinese, but as long as not all statements are
> translated into the languages used in all affiliates eligible to vote, I
> deem the process broken.
>
> Thus I formally request that WMF spend enough resources to have all
> nominations pages translated into all languages requested by the affiliates
> eligible to vote [2] [3] and all languages used already by the nominees. I
> am sure that the three facilitators cannot provide it. And there are limits
> to what volunteers can do [4] or how fast. If WMF refuses, I am going to
> use my own money [5], it costs 150 UAH (around 6 USD) to have a page
> translated into Swedish, for example :) I can manage 7 pages translated
> into as many languages as my personal budget will allow, but I shall do it
> fairly at least, so we won’t have Susanna’s statement only in English and
> Spanish, while Osmar’s is also in German, Catalan and French. WMF spends
> considerable resources (mostly in staff time) on supporting the three
> "community-elected" seats, but these two seats are not lesser board seats
> than the three "community" ones.
>
> The nominees write their statement in English. Nothing wrong with that, of
> course. But for a tiny little (and big) thing: not everybody understands it
> well enough to make an informed choice. But even among seven board members
> of Wikimedia Ukraine, two DO NOT SPEAK English, so they can read the
> statements only if they [the statements] are translated into Ukrainian.
> They have no choice, actually. In discussing whether to endorse my
> candidacy, they either have to believe the rest of the Board members that I
> am the most wonderful candidate and the others are just not as wonderful
> and that’s it, or they are to ignore the Board meeting where this decision
> is to be made. They can spend time editing Wikipedia or reading instead.
>
> And beyond the language issue, there is the informing and participation
> issue: I am not sure how this process is organised in other affiliates, and
> how you make your decisions to vote for this or that possibility (in terms
> of this, I believe that there are seven possibilities presented at the
> moment, by us, as nominees. So you can accept or decline what we seven
> offer). You (actually) do not know us and if we are going to be great or
> poor as Board members of WMF, and if we are the right-for-the-moment
> choice, but you are going to choose. Are you really going to choose just
> based on your personal contacts? Remember, in most cases administrators are
> chosen more objectively, as it is almost impossible to get to know them
> first personally. They are ‘judged’ by their deeds before, during and
> after… Were you going to ask your communities what they think about the
> candidates? And the members of your affiliate? If not, please consider this
> option. We do have a sad example of an appointed Board member being not
> accepted by us, as the Community.
>
> I am sorry for the long letter. I do believe I have a right to request (and
> suggest) this. I was a part of a team that made sure that the Ukrainian
> community REALLY knows about the elections so the eligible users on UKWP
> have voted [6] [7] And we really worked to make that happen. As you can
> see, Board elections may be of great importance to the whole community. So
> (at least) informing your own members is important, I believe.
>
> Best regards,
>
> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
>
> Wikimedia Ukraine
>
> [1] There is a question about the 

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2016 Schorlarship

[shola ishola]

Hi All,

I am writing this mail in solidarity with all active Wikipedians in Africa . I 
felt rather alienation and de-motivated by the announcement of the result of 
Wikimania Scholarship 2016.  I have reviewed the parameters for the selection 
of candidacy for the above mentioned event and I came to the conclusion that 
the selection is not fair to us (WUGN) and Africa in general.  Considering what 
we did withinn the shortest period of the recognition of our group, we are more 
than qualify to be represented at the event. 

Perhaps, we may be considered to be too young... I wish to state here... what's 
the benefit of an event that won't be developmental in nature. We are the 
future of the movement. Frankly speaking, Africa remains Virgin in term of the 
wikimedia concepts and projects compare to other continents. In my opinion, 
resources should be channel to assist the continents rather than the already 
developed one. 

Lastly, if indeed we are so serious about the projects and the move‎ment. Then, 
special quota and interest should be created for developing continents rather 
than the developed ones.

Submitted.

Olaniyan Olushola
Director, WUGN
Treasurer, FOSSFA
MD, Olbims Consulting 
Phone: +2348154876844
Email: olaniyanshol...@gmail.com 
Email: olaniyansh...@yahoo.com
Email:treasu...@fossfa.net 
User page: Olaniyan Olushola
Facebook: Olaniyan Shola
Twitter :Olaniyan73

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

[Lane Rasberry]

Nataliia,

You asked the WMF to fund and commission translations for the election.

I am not the WMF and do not know what they might think, but I wanted to
carry on the conversation. One part of your concern that I would like to
address is pricing. You suggested that for a small amount of money,
translation could be done of election writings. You say, "If WMF refuses, I
am going to use my own money [5], it costs 150 UAH (around 6 USD) to have a
page translated".

The active Wikipedia community needs perhaps 10-25 languages, and maybe we
could select 15. If we hired a translation service for this amount of text
and that many languages, the cost I would expect is not less than USD
$75,000. I think that if we discuss your request, we should begin by
imagining it as a request for $75,000 to go to a translation company. I am
not sure why you mentioned a $6 price. This would not be inexpensive.

Can you please clarify how much money you are proposing be spent on
translation?

yours,


-- 
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user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia
206.801.0814
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

[David Cuenca Tudela]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> Wikidata and Wikipedia have very different purposes: Wikipedia is an
> encyclopedia to be read; Wikidata is a database. No one reads a database.
> The whole purpose of a database is to have its content multiplied and
> surfaced elsewhere. Therefore it is even more essential that its content
> stand on solid ground.
>

I disagree with that. In my opinion Wikipedia and Wikidata do not have
different purposes, they complement each other.
In an ideal world all the data present in Wikidata should surface in
Wikipedia, and be referenced from there.
However it is expected that the data comes already referenced at
*statement* level from Wikidata, when Wikipedia doesn't comply with those
standards either. This assumes that the Wikidata community is a generator
of perfectly referenced facts and that the Wikipedia communities are mere
consumers of data. This is a toxic view because it goes against the core
principle of wikis as a tool for taking ownership of the means of knowledge
aggregation and distribution.

It has to be noted too, that in Wikidata many items have external
identifiers, references, and sources, and they apply to the whole
information contained, not just one single statement, that is something
that should be taken into account when speaking about reliability.

Besides this discussion is trite. Quality comes from use, research and
oversight, and without tools for working with wikidata from wikipedia, like
connected infoboxes, there is no point in discussing about data quality,
because as you said "no one reads a database"... except for a few people
like me I guess :)

Cheers,
Micru
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[ido ivri]

Dear Katherine,

So glad to see you're going to be working with the BoT and WMF employees to
help us move forward! Also, quite relieved to see all this positivity on
Wikimedia-l, finally :-)

Wishing you and the WMF team success - it's apparent from the transition
update that things are moving in the right direction already.

All the best,

Ido
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On 2016-03-11 04:28, Pine W wrote:
I think it's a possibility that's worth considering seriously. (: We'll 
see

how things go.

Pine



I am sure Katherine is an excellent choice currently for an interim ED, 
with the first task to rebuild trust between staff, the Board, and the 
community.


However, whether she is an excellent choice for permanent ED, depends on 
the general strategy for the movement (which we still do not have, after 
the previous strategic plan expired in December). For instance, if the 
strategic directions is chosen such that some divisions get cut and, as 
a consequence, a part of staff members have to be fired, she would 
likely not be the best ED to implement these actions.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats update

[Gnangarra]

It would be interesting to see how affiliates do make decision in this
process as we have only 6 weeks(4 after the endorsements are finalised)
from close of nominations to final voting

Wikimedia Australia has invited it members to consider the list of
nominations and whether the community will endorse any candidates, once the
nominations are finalised with a list of endorsed candidates members will
again be asked to express an opinion on who to vote for, with the committee
voting according to consensus.

On 11 March 2016 at 20:07, John Mark Vandenberg  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Cristian Consonni
>  wrote:
> > Il 11/Mar/2016 11:50, "Gordon Joly"  ha scritto:
> >> Do Chapters have to ask their membership, or are they empowered to vote
> >> without going back to the members?
> >
> > Practices vary widely. Some chapters discuss how to vote in their
> (annual)
> > general assemblies and they finally vote on who to vote. In other
> chapters
> > it's the board that decides. In these cases usually there is a formal
> > deliberation by the board and those are usually ratified by the members
> in
> > the next general assembly.
>
> Can we document this on meta?  i.e. a table of which affiliates do what?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

[Gnangarra]

Why Anthony
On 26 January 2016 at 20:46, Anthony Cole  wrote:

> Yes, Aubrey.  It would be way too onerous to expect us to make each
> citation a Wikidata item.


If you use the currently available templates to format your citation then
its possible to extract this information with a bot, the next step is how
to use that to create a wikidata item... nothing onerous in using citation
templates on WP.

as for book older books dont have ISBNs, and some books are individually
notable yet assuming they have an ISBN they share that with the 1,000's of
of identical books that arent notable.

So many of my concerns and issues over WikiData were cleared up by Andy
Mabbett when he toured Australia last month, maybe WikiData/WMF could get
Andy on the road and talking to more communities it'd resolved many of the
underlying issues that are clogging up the system through misunderstanding
or false expectations




On 26 January 2016 at 20:46, Anthony Cole  wrote:

> Yes, Aubrey.  It would be way too onerous to expect us to make each
> citation a Wikidata item.
>
> On Tuesday, 26 January 2016, Andrea Zanni 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Anthony Cole  > > wrote:
> >
> > > Most editions of most books published in the last 40 years (certainly
> > books
> > > from reliable publishers) have an ISBN that identifies one edition.
> Most
> > > reliable journal articles these days have a doi. For simple citing of
> web
> > > pages, you could automatically convert bare urls to archived versions
> of
> > > the cited web page.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I do agree with you.
> > But the problem emerges if you want to cite the reference (the book, the
> > article) as an item.
> > There you have to take into account a "book model" in Wikidata, and it's
> > easier said than done. (scientific articles are a bit easier, and Magnus
> is
> > working on them).
> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
It is becoming boring. Andreas, quality is not in sources. They are often
horrible. Your notion that only sources are good is off.

It has been argued too often that quality is in much more than only
sources. The argument that Wikidata is immature has been made all
frequently and the point is very much that we need to concentrate our
effort on where effort has the biggest impact.

To improve quality in a meaningful way, sources will not make much of a
difference when adding them is not targeted. The most impact is achieved
when differences between sources are identified and when they are curated.

Andreas, it is irrelevant what others say, I do not care at all. I care
however very much about quality, I blog frequently about it and I am happy
that my understanding evolves. I sincerely hope that you take the time to
consider what is important; dogma or making a qualitative difference in our
projects.
Thanks,
   GerardM

On 11 March 2016 at 12:41, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Magnus Manske <
> magnusman...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Be careful with that "obvious" word...
> >
> > http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=378
>
>
>
> Hi Magnus,
>
> Things have been busy of late, and I never had time to properly respond to
> this blog post of yours. (For anyone else who has forgotten, this was the
> discussion about vast swathes of Wikidata lacking reliable references, as
> discussed in [1].)
>
> You say, "the impression I get from Andreas’ text is that, while Wikipedia
> has some issues, references are basically OK, whereas they are essentially
> non-existent in Wikidata." In your piece, you then go on to compare the
> referencing density of Wikidata content to that of Wikipedia content,
> finding that Wikidata, even now, doesn't do at all badly compared to
> Wikipedia.
>
> You present it as a sort of sibling rivalry: if Wikipedia doesn't do any
> better herself, why does she complain about her sister Wikidata? I recall
> Denny and Gerard making similar arguments.
>
> In doing so, you miss the core point of the criticism. My point is that
> Wikipedia's *referencing standards are okay*, and that *those* are what
> Wikidata should be assessed against.
>
> Wikidata and Wikipedia have very different purposes: Wikipedia is an
> encyclopedia to be read; Wikidata is a database. No one reads a database.
> The whole purpose of a database is to have its content multiplied and
> surfaced elsewhere. Therefore it is even more essential that its content
> stand on solid ground.
>
> If you want to measure Wikidata against something else, you should measure
> it against the sources that open knowledge currently relies on, i.e. the
> quality standards underlying WP:V, WP:RS and so on, especially if Wikidata
> will also be used as a source in Wikipedias.
>
> My argument has never been that Wikipedia content is good, and Wikidata
> content is rubbish. The quality of Wikipedia's content is extremely
> variable. Sometimes it's alarmingly unstable, and you see Wikipedia "truth"
> shifting from one extreme to the other (example: [2]). Sometimes it's
> manipulated (example: [3]). Wikipedia contains *a lot* of rubbish,
> alongside some undeniably good content.
>
> It's for that reason that I view it with dismay when Wikidata makes
> wholesale imports "from Wikipedia", without so much as traceability to a
> specific article and article revision, and a check whether the information
> taken from Wikipedia was accurately sourced there.
>
> At the Wikipedia Weekly Facebook group, we recently discussed the use of
> Wikipedia as a source for legal decisions.[4] On a human level, it's
> perfectly normal and understandable for Wikimedians to feel validated, to
> feel pride whenever a court makes such use of Wikipedia. But in my view,
> one of the core tasks of the Wikimedia community should be to *discourage*
> such use, and teach the legal profession Wikipedia literacy. This includes
> at its most basic level not putting any faith into any statement in
> Wikipedia *per se*, but instead checking and assessing its sourcing on each
> and every occasion, and referencing the source instead. We all know that
> complete nonsense can survive for a long time in Wikipedia, even in highly
> trafficked articles.
>
> Andreas
>
> [1]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-12-02/Op-ed
> [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Klee-Irwin.gif
> [3]
>
> http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/03/manipulating-wikipedia-promote-bogus-business-school-316133.html
> [4]
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/969531789761319/
>
>
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:56 PM Andreas Kolbe 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske <
> > > magnusman...@googlemail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > What you hear is "Wikidata is unreliable" (compared to the respective
> > > > Wikipedia; proof, anyone? Please, show me proof; silence or 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats update

[John Mark Vandenberg]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Cristian Consonni
 wrote:
> Il 11/Mar/2016 11:50, "Gordon Joly"  ha scritto:
>> Do Chapters have to ask their membership, or are they empowered to vote
>> without going back to the members?
>
> Practices vary widely. Some chapters discuss how to vote in their (annual)
> general assemblies and they finally vote on who to vote. In other chapters
> it's the board that decides. In these cases usually there is a formal
> deliberation by the board and those are usually ratified by the members in
> the next general assembly.

Can we document this on meta?  i.e. a table of which affiliates do what?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

[Andreas Kolbe]

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Magnus Manske 
wrote:

> Be careful with that "obvious" word...
>
> http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=378



Hi Magnus,

Things have been busy of late, and I never had time to properly respond to
this blog post of yours. (For anyone else who has forgotten, this was the
discussion about vast swathes of Wikidata lacking reliable references, as
discussed in [1].)

You say, "the impression I get from Andreas’ text is that, while Wikipedia
has some issues, references are basically OK, whereas they are essentially
non-existent in Wikidata." In your piece, you then go on to compare the
referencing density of Wikidata content to that of Wikipedia content,
finding that Wikidata, even now, doesn't do at all badly compared to
Wikipedia.

You present it as a sort of sibling rivalry: if Wikipedia doesn't do any
better herself, why does she complain about her sister Wikidata? I recall
Denny and Gerard making similar arguments.

In doing so, you miss the core point of the criticism. My point is that
Wikipedia's *referencing standards are okay*, and that *those* are what
Wikidata should be assessed against.

Wikidata and Wikipedia have very different purposes: Wikipedia is an
encyclopedia to be read; Wikidata is a database. No one reads a database.
The whole purpose of a database is to have its content multiplied and
surfaced elsewhere. Therefore it is even more essential that its content
stand on solid ground.

If you want to measure Wikidata against something else, you should measure
it against the sources that open knowledge currently relies on, i.e. the
quality standards underlying WP:V, WP:RS and so on, especially if Wikidata
will also be used as a source in Wikipedias.

My argument has never been that Wikipedia content is good, and Wikidata
content is rubbish. The quality of Wikipedia's content is extremely
variable. Sometimes it's alarmingly unstable, and you see Wikipedia "truth"
shifting from one extreme to the other (example: [2]). Sometimes it's
manipulated (example: [3]). Wikipedia contains *a lot* of rubbish,
alongside some undeniably good content.

It's for that reason that I view it with dismay when Wikidata makes
wholesale imports "from Wikipedia", without so much as traceability to a
specific article and article revision, and a check whether the information
taken from Wikipedia was accurately sourced there.

At the Wikipedia Weekly Facebook group, we recently discussed the use of
Wikipedia as a source for legal decisions.[4] On a human level, it's
perfectly normal and understandable for Wikimedians to feel validated, to
feel pride whenever a court makes such use of Wikipedia. But in my view,
one of the core tasks of the Wikimedia community should be to *discourage*
such use, and teach the legal profession Wikipedia literacy. This includes
at its most basic level not putting any faith into any statement in
Wikipedia *per se*, but instead checking and assessing its sourcing on each
and every occasion, and referencing the source instead. We all know that
complete nonsense can survive for a long time in Wikipedia, even in highly
trafficked articles.

Andreas

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-12-02/Op-ed
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Klee-Irwin.gif
[3]
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/03/manipulating-wikipedia-promote-bogus-business-school-316133.html
[4]
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/969531789761319/


> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:56 PM Andreas Kolbe  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske <
> > magnusman...@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What you hear is "Wikidata is unreliable" (compared to the respective
> > > Wikipedia; proof, anyone? Please, show me proof; silence or anecdotes
> > don't
> > > count)
> >
> >
> >
> > Any non-trivial content you want to add to Wikipedia today has to fulfil
> > one basic criterion: that the content be traceable to a professionally
> > published source.
> >
> > Most Wikidata content fails that criterion.[1] It's blooming obvious that
> > Wikidata is "unreliable" according to Wikipedia's definition of a
> "reliable
> > source", isn't it?[2]
> >
> > [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php
> > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SPS
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats update

[Cristian Consonni]

Il 11/Mar/2016 11:50, "Gordon Joly"  ha scritto:
> Do Chapters have to ask their membership, or are they empowered to vote
> without going back to the members?

Practices vary widely. Some chapters discuss how to vote in their (annual)
general assemblies and they finally vote on who to vote. In other chapters
it's the board that decides. In these cases usually there is a formal
deliberation by the board and those are usually ratified by the members in
the next general assembly.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[aude]

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:48 PM, aude  wrote:

>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Patricio Lorente <
> patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team has
>> proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our full
>> support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications Officer
>> Katherine Maher (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF))
>> will
>> step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the C-levels
>> for
>> their careful consideration in this process, and Katherine for stepping up
>> during this period of transition.
>>
>
> \o/  :-)
>
> I am quite confident that Katherine will be a good fit for this role.
>
> Her background, prior to joining WMF, is in doing work that is inline
> withour values.
>
> Thank you Katherine for stepping into the position.
>

I forgot to say مبروك (congratulations) :-)

Curious if you will be able to attend the hackathon in Jerusalem? and/or
WikiArabia in Amman? (though can understand if you are too busy or for
other reasons can't)

Cheers,
Katie


>
> Cheers,
> Katie
>
>
>
>>
>> In choosing an interim ED, the C-levels started by identifying immediate
>> priorities for the coming months, including building trust, improving
>> communications, and filling key leadership positions. They felt, and we
>> agree, that Katherine is the right person to lead the organization while
>> it
>> addresses these and other important issues. Additionally, this will allow
>> the rest of the executive team to focus on critical organizational
>> functions, including community and engineering management, fundraising,
>> and
>> strengthening our human resources function. You can read more about our
>> process and thinking here:
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/March_2016_-_Leadership_Team_transition_planning
>>
>>
>> Katherine has been with the Foundation as Chief Communications Officer for
>> about two years now. During that time, she has developed a versatile and
>> effective team that serves the needs of the organization and movement,
>> collaborating closely with other departments and the community. She has
>> thoughtfully introduced new capacities and led her team through
>> transitions, and played a critical role in shepherding the strategy
>> process
>> and the annual plan, in collaboration with other C-levels. She is known
>> for
>> listening to and empowering the people that she works with.
>>
>> For those who don’t know Katherine, she’s been a longtime advocate for
>> global open communities, culture, and technology. She previously led
>> advocacy for the international digital rights organization Access Now,
>> where she worked on freedom of expression, access to information, and
>> privacy. She has supported the efforts of citizens and governments around
>> the world to deepen transparency and participation in her roles at the
>> World Bank, National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, and
>> UNICEF (where her team built wikis for youth participation in major global
>> issues). She is a member of the advisory board of the Open Technology
>> Fund.
>>
>> With interim leadership in place, our next step as the Board is to move
>> quickly to plan and implement the search for a permanent Executive
>> Director. We will be working together over the coming weeks to clarify
>> roles and responsibilities in this search, and identify the best way for
>> community and staff to participate.  We want this process to be inclusive
>> and incorporate many voices. We look forward to sharing an update on our
>> progress toward the end of next week.
>>
>> As interim Executive Director, Katherine will report to the Board. Geoff
>> Brigham will continue serving as Board Secretary, and Jaime Villagomez as
>> Board Treasurer, reporting to the Board in those capacities. As of March
>> 14, Katherine's reports include the C-team: Geoff Brigham, Jaime
>> Villagomez, Maggie Dennis, Lisa Gruwell, Joady Lohr, and Wes Moran. The
>> Communications team will continue to report to Katherine for the time
>> being, with support from the leadership of Juliet Barbara and Heather
>> Walls.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>  Patricio
>>
>> Translation notice - This message is available for translation on
>> Meta-Wiki:
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats update

[Gordon Joly]

On 11/03/16 10:05, Chris Keating wrote:
> Hi Itzik,
> 
> When the process was being discussed in the Autumn, there wasn't any
> consensus to change it to a fully secret ballot. So, as last time, votes
> will be cast on a wiki-table on the Chapters wiki.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chris

Do Chapters have to ask their membership, or are they empowered to vote
without going back to the members?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016

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Hi Ginevra,

No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. 
This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't 
think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have 
more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not 
happy about it. 

Warmest regards,

Olatunde Isaac,
Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria
Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba.
Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria.
Phone: +2348166620737 
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Sender: "Wikimania-l" Date: Fri, 11 
Mar 2016 10:05:40 
To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wikimania general 
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Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016

Hi people,
it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at
Wikimania 2016:

https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village

And you can also start planning your meetups:

https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups

Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings
closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!

Have a nice weekend,


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016

[reachout2isaac]

Hi Ginevra,

No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. 
This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't 
think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have 
more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not 
happy about it. 

Warmest regards,

Olatunde Isaac,
Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria
Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba.
Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria.
Phone: +2348166620737 
Email: reachout2is...@gmail.com 
User page: Wikicology 
Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

-Original Message-
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Sender: "Wikimania-l" Date: Fri, 11 
Mar 2016 10:05:40 
To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wikimania general 
list (open subscription); 

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Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016

Hi people,
it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at
Wikimania 2016:

https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village

And you can also start planning your meetups:

https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups

Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings
closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!

Have a nice weekend,


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Tanweer Morshed]

Congratulations to Katherine for taking up the responsibility! And at the
same time, thanks to the Board and C-levels for coming up with a thoughtful
and acceptable decision.
It's great to see someone taking up the charge, who has been involved with
the movement for a long time.


Regards,
Tanweer

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Nicole Ebber 
wrote:

> Congratulations, Katherine, and thank you for taking on this
> responsibility! I am glad to read all those congrats and wonderful
> emails from people involved.
>
> And thank you to the C-level team and Board for making this decision,
> and for making it quickly and transparent.
>
> I look forward to working with you, and to warmly welcoming you in
> Berlin in April!
>
> Cheers,
> Nicole
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 11:18, David Parreño Mont 
> wrote:
> > OMG! Many congratulations, Katherine!
> >
> > El dv., 11 març 2016 a les 4:00, Katherine Maher ( >)
> > va escriure:
> >
> >> Thank you, Patricio.
> >>
> >> I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their
> confidence in
> >> the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
> >> continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your passion
> >> and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things to
> >> behold.
> >>
> >> As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a
> process
> >> of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)) recently
> >> reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will need to
> >> work together over these coming months to build that trust, and open
> >> critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the sense from
> >> many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the
> lessons
> >> we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to advancing our
> >> global movement.
> >>
> >> At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our values,
> and
> >> practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim
> period, I
> >> want to get things working well and improve transparency and
> communication,
> >> both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
> >> supportive, fair environment where people can get things done, engage
> with
> >> their colleagues and community members, and understand how their work
> has
> >> an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important
> deadlines
> >> for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making
> progress
> >> on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.
> >>
> >> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017 Annual
> >> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are on
> track
> >> to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is also
> >> underway, with a draft version open for comments until March 18.[3] Over
> >> the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology
> Officer
> >> (CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to reinvest
> in
> >> our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize
> them.
> >>
> >> To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want to
> hear
> >> from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim period.
> This
> >> includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the organization and
> >> movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is
> prepared
> >> to actively support the Board in the search, and we will work closely
> with
> >> them to share important information and create opportunities to give
> >> feedback throughout the process.
> >>
> >> Just a few weeks ago, we marked the 15th birthday of the movement.[4]
> >> Millions of people around the world shared their love for Wikimedia. It
> was
> >> a celebration of why we do what we do, and how much joy the movement
> brings
> >> people everywhere. That’s something I try to keep in mind every day.
> >>
> >> Yours sincerely,
> >> Katherine
> >>
> >> [1] https://twitter.com/nightrose/status/660043284841107457
> >> [2]
> >>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Combined_strategy_and_annual_plan_timeline
> >> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Draft_WMF_Strategy
> >> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Patricio Lorente <
> >> patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team
> has
> >> > proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our
> full
> >> > support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications Officer
> >> > Katherine Maher (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF)
> )
> >> > will step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the
> >> > C-levels for their careful consideration in this process, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Nicole Ebber]

Congratulations, Katherine, and thank you for taking on this
responsibility! I am glad to read all those congrats and wonderful
emails from people involved.

And thank you to the C-level team and Board for making this decision,
and for making it quickly and transparent.

I look forward to working with you, and to warmly welcoming you in
Berlin in April!

Cheers,
Nicole

On 11 March 2016 at 11:18, David Parreño Mont  wrote:
> OMG! Many congratulations, Katherine!
>
> El dv., 11 març 2016 a les 4:00, Katherine Maher ()
> va escriure:
>
>> Thank you, Patricio.
>>
>> I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their confidence in
>> the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
>> continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your passion
>> and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things to
>> behold.
>>
>> As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a process
>> of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)) recently
>> reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will need to
>> work together over these coming months to build that trust, and open
>> critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the sense from
>> many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the lessons
>> we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to advancing our
>> global movement.
>>
>> At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our values, and
>> practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim period, I
>> want to get things working well and improve transparency and communication,
>> both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
>> supportive, fair environment where people can get things done, engage with
>> their colleagues and community members, and understand how their work has
>> an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important deadlines
>> for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making progress
>> on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.
>>
>> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017 Annual
>> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are on track
>> to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is also
>> underway, with a draft version open for comments until March 18.[3] Over
>> the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology Officer
>> (CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to reinvest in
>> our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize them.
>>
>> To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want to hear
>> from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim period. This
>> includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the organization and
>> movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is prepared
>> to actively support the Board in the search, and we will work closely with
>> them to share important information and create opportunities to give
>> feedback throughout the process.
>>
>> Just a few weeks ago, we marked the 15th birthday of the movement.[4]
>> Millions of people around the world shared their love for Wikimedia. It was
>> a celebration of why we do what we do, and how much joy the movement brings
>> people everywhere. That’s something I try to keep in mind every day.
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>> Katherine
>>
>> [1] https://twitter.com/nightrose/status/660043284841107457
>> [2]
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Combined_strategy_and_annual_plan_timeline
>> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Draft_WMF_Strategy
>> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Patricio Lorente <
>> patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team has
>> > proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our full
>> > support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications Officer
>> > Katherine Maher (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF))
>> > will step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the
>> > C-levels for their careful consideration in this process, and Katherine
>> for
>> > stepping up during this period of transition.
>> >
>> > In choosing an interim ED, the C-levels started by identifying immediate
>> > priorities for the coming months, including building trust, improving
>> > communications, and filling key leadership positions. They felt, and we
>> > agree, that Katherine is the right person to lead the organization while
>> it
>> > addresses these and other important issues. Additionally, this will allow
>> > the rest of the executive team to focus on critical organizational
>> > functions, including community and engineering management, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[David Parreño Mont]

OMG! Many congratulations, Katherine!

El dv., 11 març 2016 a les 4:00, Katherine Maher ()
va escriure:

> Thank you, Patricio.
>
> I want to thank the Board for this opportunity, and for their confidence in
> the Foundation. I also want to thank community members and staff for
> continuing to be such committed advocates for our future -- your passion
> and belief in our movement and purpose have been tremendous things to
> behold.
>
> As a movement, we’ve had some challenges lately. We’ve started on a process
> of change, but as Lydia Pintscher (User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)) recently
> reminded us,[1] “Change happens at the speed of trust.” We will need to
> work together over these coming months to build that trust, and open
> critical lines of communication and accountability. I get the sense from
> many people that that’s exactly what they’d like to do: absorb the lessons
> we’ve learned, re-engage with each other, and get back to advancing our
> global movement.
>
> At the Foundation, we have an opportunity to center around our values, and
> practice open and collaborative communication. During the interim period, I
> want to get things working well and improve transparency and communication,
> both internally and with the communities. We will work to create a
> supportive, fair environment where people can get things done, engage with
> their colleagues and community members, and understand how their work has
> an impact on our mission. This includes delivering on important deadlines
> for the Annual Plan and strategy,[2] filling key roles, and making progress
> on issues raised in our recent engagement survey.
>
> We are committed to delivering the first version of the 2016-2017 Annual
> Plan no later than April 1st for community and FDC review, and are on track
> to meet this deadline. The WMF 2016-2018 strategy development is also
> underway, with a draft version open for comments until March 18.[3] Over
> the coming weeks, we’ll be moving forward with our Chief Technology Officer
> (CTO) search, and working with the Talent and Culture team to reinvest in
> our culture. As new other emerge, we’ll work together to prioritize them.
>
> To accomplish all of this, we are going to need your help. I want to hear
> from you about what you would like to achieve in this interim period. This
> includes how we can collaborate together to prepare the organization and
> movement to welcome our next Executive Director. The Foundation is prepared
> to actively support the Board in the search, and we will work closely with
> them to share important information and create opportunities to give
> feedback throughout the process.
>
> Just a few weeks ago, we marked the 15th birthday of the movement.[4]
> Millions of people around the world shared their love for Wikimedia. It was
> a celebration of why we do what we do, and how much joy the movement brings
> people everywhere. That’s something I try to keep in mind every day.
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Katherine
>
> [1] https://twitter.com/nightrose/status/660043284841107457
> [2]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Combined_strategy_and_annual_plan_timeline
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Strategy/Draft_WMF_Strategy
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Patricio Lorente <
> patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team has
> > proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our full
> > support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications Officer
> > Katherine Maher (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF))
> > will step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the
> > C-levels for their careful consideration in this process, and Katherine
> for
> > stepping up during this period of transition.
> >
> > In choosing an interim ED, the C-levels started by identifying immediate
> > priorities for the coming months, including building trust, improving
> > communications, and filling key leadership positions. They felt, and we
> > agree, that Katherine is the right person to lead the organization while
> it
> > addresses these and other important issues. Additionally, this will allow
> > the rest of the executive team to focus on critical organizational
> > functions, including community and engineering management, fundraising,
> and
> > strengthening our human resources function. You can read more about our
> > process and thinking here:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/March_2016_-_Leadership_Team_transition_planning
> >
> >
> > Katherine has been with the Foundation as Chief Communications Officer
> for
> > about two years now. During that time, she has developed a versatile and
> > effective team that serves the needs of the organization and movement,
> > collaborating closely with other departments and 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliate-selected Board seats update

[Chris Keating]

Hi Itzik,

When the process was being discussed in the Autumn, there wasn't any
consensus to change it to a fully secret ballot. So, as last time, votes
will be cast on a wiki-table on the Chapters wiki.

Regards,

Chris

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel <
it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> How and where the chapter will vote?
> I offered to do it privately, in order to avoid current votes to influence
> others chapters.
>
> Itzik
>
> - Sent from mobile
> On Mar 10, 2016 15:35, "Chris Keating"  wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > The deadline for nominations in the Affiliate Selected Board Seats
> process
> > passed on Tuesday, and 10 candidates have been nominated:
> >
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations
> >
> > This is more candidates than any previous affiliate/chapter-selected
> > process, and I am pleased to note that 4 of the candidates are women and
> 5
> > are from countries not in North American or Western Europe. All
> candidates
> > who have received one or more endorsements from voting organisations by
> 23
> > March will be added to the ballot for the election.
> >
> > While only Chapters and the single Thematic Organization have a vote in
> > this election, all community members are invited to participate by asking
> > questions to the candidates, here:
> >
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Questions
> >
> > Help translating candidate statements into other languages is also much
> > appreciated.
> >
> > (For more details about this process, please see here:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016 )
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Chris Keating
> > (one of the election facilitators)
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[Wikimedia-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016

[Ginevra Sanvitale]

Hi people,
it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at
Wikimania 2016:

https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village

And you can also start planning your meetups:

https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups

Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings
closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!

Have a nice weekend,


Ginevra
Wikimania Programme Committee

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[David Cuenca Tudela]

Congratulations, Katherine! I hope that you have a good start in your new
position, and that the challenges ahead don't overwhelm you.

Good luck,
Micru

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Steven Crossin  wrote:

> What Oliver said. Katherine was my pick for interim ED as well. Im sure she
> will do an amazing job
>
> Steve
>
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 2:10 pm Oliver Keyes  wrote:
>
> > \o/\o/\o/\o/
> >
> > So glad to see this wonderful choice!
> >
> > ...if we're gonna have Katherine as the interim...do we really need to
> > find someone permanent? ;)
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Heilman 
> wrote:
> > > A very positive move. Thank you Katherine for agreeing to step up and
> > take
> > > on this role. You have my full confidence :-)
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Pharos 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Congratulations, Katherine!
> > >>
> > >> She is an excellent choice to navigate us through for this difficult
> > time.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Pharos
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Patricio Lorente <
> > >> patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hello all,
> > >> >
> > >> > I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team
> > has
> > >> > proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our
> > full
> > >> > support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications
> Officer
> > >> > Katherine Maher (
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF)
> > )
> > >> > will
> > >> > step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the
> > C-levels
> > >> for
> > >> > their careful consideration in this process, and Katherine for
> > stepping
> > >> up
> > >> > during this period of transition.
> > >> >
> > >> > In choosing an interim ED, the C-levels started by identifying
> > immediate
> > >> > priorities for the coming months, including building trust,
> improving
> > >> > communications, and filling key leadership positions. They felt, and
> > we
> > >> > agree, that Katherine is the right person to lead the organization
> > while
> > >> it
> > >> > addresses these and other important issues. Additionally, this will
> > allow
> > >> > the rest of the executive team to focus on critical organizational
> > >> > functions, including community and engineering management,
> > fundraising,
> > >> and
> > >> > strengthening our human resources function. You can read more about
> > our
> > >> > process and thinking here:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/March_2016_-_Leadership_Team_transition_planning
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Katherine has been with the Foundation as Chief Communications
> Officer
> > >> for
> > >> > about two years now. During that time, she has developed a versatile
> > and
> > >> > effective team that serves the needs of the organization and
> movement,
> > >> > collaborating closely with other departments and the community. She
> > has
> > >> > thoughtfully introduced new capacities and led her team through
> > >> > transitions, and played a critical role in shepherding the strategy
> > >> process
> > >> > and the annual plan, in collaboration with other C-levels. She is
> > known
> > >> for
> > >> > listening to and empowering the people that she works with.
> > >> >
> > >> > For those who don’t know Katherine, she’s been a longtime advocate
> for
> > >> > global open communities, culture, and technology. She previously led
> > >> > advocacy for the international digital rights organization Access
> Now,
> > >> > where she worked on freedom of expression, access to information,
> and
> > >> > privacy. She has supported the efforts of citizens and governments
> > around
> > >> > the world to deepen transparency and participation in her roles at
> the
> > >> > World Bank, National Democratic Institute for International Affairs,
> > and
> > >> > UNICEF (where her team built wikis for youth participation in major
> > >> global
> > >> > issues). She is a member of the advisory board of the Open
> Technology
> > >> Fund.
> > >> >
> > >> > With interim leadership in place, our next step as the Board is to
> > move
> > >> > quickly to plan and implement the search for a permanent Executive
> > >> > Director. We will be working together over the coming weeks to
> clarify
> > >> > roles and responsibilities in this search, and identify the best way
> > for
> > >> > community and staff to participate.  We want this process to be
> > inclusive
> > >> > and incorporate many voices. We look forward to sharing an update on
> > our
> > >> > progress toward the end of next week.
> > >> >
> > >> > As interim Executive Director, Katherine will report to the Board.
> > Geoff
> > >> > Brigham will continue serving as Board Secretary, and Jaime
> > Villagomez as
> > >> > Board Treasurer, reporting to the Board in those capacities. As of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

[Steven Crossin]

What Oliver said. Katherine was my pick for interim ED as well. Im sure she
will do an amazing job

Steve

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 2:10 pm Oliver Keyes  wrote:

> \o/\o/\o/\o/
>
> So glad to see this wonderful choice!
>
> ...if we're gonna have Katherine as the interim...do we really need to
> find someone permanent? ;)
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Heilman  wrote:
> > A very positive move. Thank you Katherine for agreeing to step up and
> take
> > on this role. You have my full confidence :-)
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Pharos 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Congratulations, Katherine!
> >>
> >> She is an excellent choice to navigate us through for this difficult
> time.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Pharos
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Patricio Lorente <
> >> patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > I’m happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation leadership team
> has
> >> > proposed an interim Executive Director, and the Board has given our
> full
> >> > support. Starting on March 14th, current Chief Communications Officer
> >> > Katherine Maher (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katherine_(WMF)
> )
> >> > will
> >> > step into the role of interim Executive Director. We thank the
> C-levels
> >> for
> >> > their careful consideration in this process, and Katherine for
> stepping
> >> up
> >> > during this period of transition.
> >> >
> >> > In choosing an interim ED, the C-levels started by identifying
> immediate
> >> > priorities for the coming months, including building trust, improving
> >> > communications, and filling key leadership positions. They felt, and
> we
> >> > agree, that Katherine is the right person to lead the organization
> while
> >> it
> >> > addresses these and other important issues. Additionally, this will
> allow
> >> > the rest of the executive team to focus on critical organizational
> >> > functions, including community and engineering management,
> fundraising,
> >> and
> >> > strengthening our human resources function. You can read more about
> our
> >> > process and thinking here:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/March_2016_-_Leadership_Team_transition_planning
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Katherine has been with the Foundation as Chief Communications Officer
> >> for
> >> > about two years now. During that time, she has developed a versatile
> and
> >> > effective team that serves the needs of the organization and movement,
> >> > collaborating closely with other departments and the community. She
> has
> >> > thoughtfully introduced new capacities and led her team through
> >> > transitions, and played a critical role in shepherding the strategy
> >> process
> >> > and the annual plan, in collaboration with other C-levels. She is
> known
> >> for
> >> > listening to and empowering the people that she works with.
> >> >
> >> > For those who don’t know Katherine, she’s been a longtime advocate for
> >> > global open communities, culture, and technology. She previously led
> >> > advocacy for the international digital rights organization Access Now,
> >> > where she worked on freedom of expression, access to information, and
> >> > privacy. She has supported the efforts of citizens and governments
> around
> >> > the world to deepen transparency and participation in her roles at the
> >> > World Bank, National Democratic Institute for International Affairs,
> and
> >> > UNICEF (where her team built wikis for youth participation in major
> >> global
> >> > issues). She is a member of the advisory board of the Open Technology
> >> Fund.
> >> >
> >> > With interim leadership in place, our next step as the Board is to
> move
> >> > quickly to plan and implement the search for a permanent Executive
> >> > Director. We will be working together over the coming weeks to clarify
> >> > roles and responsibilities in this search, and identify the best way
> for
> >> > community and staff to participate.  We want this process to be
> inclusive
> >> > and incorporate many voices. We look forward to sharing an update on
> our
> >> > progress toward the end of next week.
> >> >
> >> > As interim Executive Director, Katherine will report to the Board.
> Geoff
> >> > Brigham will continue serving as Board Secretary, and Jaime
> Villagomez as
> >> > Board Treasurer, reporting to the Board in those capacities. As of
> March
> >> > 14, Katherine's reports include the C-team: Geoff Brigham, Jaime
> >> > Villagomez, Maggie Dennis, Lisa Gruwell, Joady Lohr, and Wes Moran.
> The
> >> > Communications team will continue to report to Katherine for the time
> >> > being, with support from the leadership of Juliet Barbara and Heather
> >> > Walls.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> >
> >> >  Patricio
> >> >
> >> > Translation notice - This message is available for translation on