Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411
Alive and doing well. http://www.telecomramblings.com/search-results/?cx=partner-pub-2161536662137915:apagjq91kx7cof=FORID:11ie=ISO-8859-1q=Global+Crossingsa=Searchsiteurl=www.telecomramblings.com/ http://www.telecomramblings.com/search-results/?cx=partner-pub-2161536662137915:apagjq91kx7cof=FORID:11ie=ISO-8859-1q=Global+Crossingsa=Searchsiteurl=www.telecomramblings.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/10/2010 10:22 PM, Robert West wrote: They still alive? I had stock in them back in 99. Lost a few bucks.. $...@! It! *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:05 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411 I an using global crossing. On Nov 10, 2010 9:59 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Costs like 35 bucks a call, right? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:41 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411 Wow! Do people still call 411? I cant remember the last time I did. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I just tested that thinking for sure I didn't care if there was an ad played... after all its free. But man that was painful then they try to get you to dial a competitor that advertises with them by hitting one key instead of giving you the number you wanted lol Do that any way for now, see how many people complain :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Nick lists-wi...@atomsplash.com mailto:lists-wi...@atomsplash.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:04 PM To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411 1-800-FREE411? It's ad-based On 11/10/2010 5:37 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: We pointed voip 411 calls to google 411 but I guess tomorrow its going away. Anyone know of a similar type service or do you guys just forward to your telephone provider upstream and eat the costs? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411
Easily enough, you just specify your number plans when 411 is matched to use their gateway. Cost is an entirely different factor, though. I'd imagine they don't make enough to justify you as a customer but that is an entirely wild guest. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: So can you use them for just 411? How much does it cost? Maybe you can hook me into your system and reroute through them for $ Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:42 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411 Doing well enough to keep me happy. Global Crossing is one of our term providers. I am using their 411 services. The thread is about 411 services now that GOOG411 is gone... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Same. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Fred Goldstein *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:32 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411 At 11/10/2010 11:22 PM, Robert West wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_002E_01CB812E.28171070 Content-Language: en-us They still alive? I had stock in them back in 99. Lost a few bucks…… $...@! It! *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:05 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT - VoIP 411 I an using global crossing. I'm not sure what GX has to do with 411, unless it's one of their less-well-known sidelines. But in any case, Bob, Global Double Crossing, which had practiced somewhat creative accounting, went bankrupt in 2002 and its assets were acquired by Singapore Telemedia. Shareholders were wiped out. Then it went public anew in 2004. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Belden 7918
Does anyone know if Belden 7918 cable measures on even 1000' increments or if it's random? I didn't mark down the starting footage on two spools and can't see the ending footage. -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Perhaps this feature is there to be tested for future 5.4 use. They've got DFS, now they are testing the auto channel selection, fcc is willing to do 5.4 certs again now, things are looking up and I hope UBNT takes advantage of it. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:04:17PM -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote: AUTO channel Hopping should be illegal. With that said, FCC law requires it for DFS support. That is hopping off radar channel. If Auto channel selection is an ehancement that will assist using DFS more reliably, well then I say good job in adding it, one more step towards progress of FCC certifiabilty.. One day it would be nice, if UBNT can be legal at 5.3 and 5.4. DFS enabled really does need abilty to define the channels that can be included or excluded from the hopping. -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: ubnt is fricken bad ass!
http://www.3dbwireless.com/boyd/ Any word on the how and when of GPS sync? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT Console route lookup
Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without knowing the netmask? For instance /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing. But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if there is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco you can do a show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route as well as the path(s) it can take and the best one. And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server with telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to set one up? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - *From:* Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com *Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way. But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
We used those computers for packet sniffers at the university long ago... We called them lunchboxes - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup
Nick, Use regex search. /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1 -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without knowing the netmask? For instance /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing. But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if there is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco you can do a show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route as well as the path(s) it can take and the best one. And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server with telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to set one up? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
I thought I'd share a little information. We have our own tower climbers. We are often working in remote areas where we provide service. In one of those rare moments when I have time to think, I wondered what kinds of high-angle rescue capabilities the fire departments around us had. Here's what I found out: NONE The closest high-angle rescue units are in at least 1 hour away. If you have an injured climber, 1 hour may be too much. We now have 1000' of 5/8 rescue rope, and a Fisk Descender in house. We are also actively working with a couple of the local fire departments to get them and us properly certified. Just a thought as many of us work out in the sticks! You don't want an untrained person lowering you off a tower with their pickup truck and 1/4 twine. Be safe. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Climbing High-Angle Emergency Equipment
http://www.comtrainusa.com/ They are your friends. I have done this course. It is very nice. I would recommend it to anyone. Especially fire departments. Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 11/11/2010 11:56 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: I thought I'd share a little information. We have our own tower climbers. We are often working in remote areas where we provide service. In one of those rare moments when I have time to think, I wondered what kinds of high-angle rescue capabilities the fire departments around us had. Here's what I found out: NONE The closest high-angle rescue units are in at least 1 hour away. If you have an injured climber, 1 hour may be too much. We now have 1000' of 5/8 rescue rope, and a Fisk Descender in house. We are also actively working with a couple of the local fire departments to get them and us properly certified. Just a thought as many of us work out in the sticks! You don't want an untrained person lowering you off a tower with their pickup truck and 1/4 twine. Be safe. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service contracts
For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation "striking while the iron is hot" is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- Jeremy J. Rodgers Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 "But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD." Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:52, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I curious if any out there have established PPTP connections between a linux box and MT routers and been able to ping things on the other side. If I establish a connection with my Windows machine, all is nice. I get the ip and can start pinging, logging into, etc devices on the other end. In linux I can establish the tunnel, but can only ping my p-t-p ip on the other end. I'm not using the remote end as the gateway and don't want to. Anyone done this? Sounds like your Linux setup isn't updating routes correctly. What do you mean by not wanting to use the remote end as your gateway? That's exactly what Windows does by default, and that's almost certainly what you want, unless you're doing something very atypical. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of paper when upgrading your call phone plan? Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeremy Rodgers jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote: For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- *Jeremy J. Rodgers* Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 …But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:52, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I curious if any out there have established PPTP connections between a linux box and MT routers and been able to ping things on the other side. If I establish a connection with my Windows machine, all is nice. I get the ip and can start pinging, logging into, etc devices on the other end. In linux I can establish the tunnel, but can only ping my p-t-p ip on the other end. I'm not using the remote end as the gateway and don't want to. Anyone done this? Sounds like your Linux setup isn't updating routes correctly. What do you mean by not wanting to use the remote end as your gateway? That's exactly what Windows does by default, and that's almost certainly what you want, unless you're doing something very atypical. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Linux PPP connections
I curious if any out there have established PPTP connections between a linux box and MT routers and been able to ping things on the other side. If I establish a connection with my Windows machine, all is nice. I get the ip and can start pinging, logging into, etc devices on the other end. In linux I can establish the tunnel, but can only ping my p-t-p ip on the other end. I'm not using the remote end as the gateway and don't want to. Anyone done this? Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:00, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Are you then setting a few specific routes (so that only your network is routed through the PPTP connection)? You'd probably just need to, after you're connected, add a few routes manually (i.e. something like 'route add -net 10.20.30.0/24 gw your.ppp.peer.ip') You'll probably want to automate that with a shell script or similar. I think Fedora actually has a little GUI you can use, to automatically create routes after setting up a PPTP session and drop them when you disconnect, but I haven't had to do this in quite a while; I apologize for the lack of specifics. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
I do this all the time. I PPtP to my core router then point 10/8 up the PPtP, and can then access my entire network. How you do that is up to you. Network manager should be able to, your ppp script should be able, I do it by hand cause I never know just what interface I am doing the PPtP from. route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw remote side ip or ip route add 10.0.0.0/8 via remote side ip On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:52, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I curious if any out there have established PPTP connections between a linux box and MT routers and been able to ping things on the other side. If I establish a connection with my Windows machine, all is nice. I get the ip and can start pinging, logging into, etc devices on the other end. In linux I can establish the tunnel, but can only ping my p-t-p ip on the other end. I'm not using the remote end as the gateway and don't want to. Anyone done this? Sounds like your Linux setup isn't updating routes correctly. What do you mean by not wanting to use the remote end as your gateway? That's exactly what Windows does by default, and that's almost certainly what you want, unless you're doing something very atypical. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that is I never know exactly which private subnets I'll need. I guess I can add routes for al the private ranges, but that is kind of a hassle. Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:00, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Are you then setting a few specific routes (so that only your network is routed through the PPTP connection)? You'd probably just need to, after you're connected, add a few routes manually (i.e. something like 'route add -net 10.20.30.0/24 gw your.ppp.peer.ip') You'll probably want to automate that with a shell script or similar. I think Fedora actually has a little GUI you can use, to automatically create routes after setting up a PPTP session and drop them when you disconnect, but I haven't had to do this in quite a while; I apologize for the lack of specifics. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
I do sign a piece of paper when signing up for new service. Are you suggesting doing everything electronically? On 11/11/2010 12:56 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of paper when upgrading your call phone plan? Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeremy Rodgers jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote: For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation "striking while the iron is hot" is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- Jeremy J. Rodgers Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 "…But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD." Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jeremy J. Rodgers Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 "…But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD." Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
Shell script, one input parameter, the new gateway. Then one command sets up all the internal subnets. On 11/11/2010 1:20 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that is I never know exactly which private subnets I'll need. I guess I can add routes for al the private ranges, but that is kind of a hassle. Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net mailto:d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:00, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com mailto:cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Are you then setting a few specific routes (so that only your network is routed through the PPTP connection)? You'd probably just need to, after you're connected, add a few routes manually (i.e. something like 'route add -net 10.20.30.0/24 http://10.20.30.0/24 gw your.ppp.peer.ip') You'll probably want to automate that with a shell script or similar. I think Fedora actually has a little GUI you can use, to automatically create routes after setting up a PPTP session and drop them when you disconnect, but I haven't had to do this in quite a while; I apologize for the lack of specifics. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
We do contracts, with rates based on tiers ( http://www.shelbybb.com/wireless.aspx). Customers are required to choose a service plan at time of install for wireless internet and at time of order for phone or DSL. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jeremy Rodgers jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote: I do sign a piece of paper when signing up for new service. Are you suggesting doing everything electronically? On 11/11/2010 12:56 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of paper when upgrading your call phone plan? Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeremy Rodgers jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote: For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- *Jeremy J. Rodgers* Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 …But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- *Jeremy J. Rodgers* Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 …But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Broadband Expo Winner FYI
The winner of the dual radio indoor MT router at the Broadband Expo is: Tristan Johnson Wireless Data Net, LLC. We will ship this out to Tristan today. Thanx to all that attended. -- Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers wrote: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 /head body text=#00 bgcolor=#ff For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned.nbsp; It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br br So...a couple questionsbr br -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br -What does your process look likebr -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr br Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?br br Any input is appreciated!br div class=moz-signature-- br bfont face=Pristina size=5Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b br Sales Manager br OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr O: 260.827.2234 br O: 800.363.0989 br F: 260.824.9624 br br #8230;But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 /div /body /html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:20, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that is I never know exactly which private subnets I'll need. I guess I can add routes for al the private ranges, but that is kind of a hassle. I think a Windows server (configured with the routes you need), talking to a Windows client, handles setting that up on its own. For Linux, it should be easy enough to create a shell script that creates the routes you need. Something like: #!/bin/bash route add 10.10.10.0/24 via $1 route add 10.20.30.0/24 via $1 ... and so on Then, once you're logged in, just run myroutes.sh 10.50.13.41. Depending on your PPTP client setup, you probably can even get this script to run automatically as part of setting up the session. You'll probably also want a similar script to run after you log out, with a bunch of 'route del' commands. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers wrote: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 /head body text=#00 bgcolor=#ff For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned.nbsp; It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br br So...a couple questionsbr br -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br -What does your process look likebr -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr br Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?br br Any input is appreciated!br div class=moz-signature-- br bfont face=Pristina size=5Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b br Sales Manager br OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr O: 260.827.2234 br O: 800.363.0989 br F: 260.824.9624 br br #8230;But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 /div /body /html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Cameron, I would love to learn more about your process and how you do this. Does the customer just visit your site and agree by checking a box to terms and conditions? Do they fill out billing info, etc. as well? On 11/11/2010 3:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers wrote: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" html head meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" /head body text="#00" bgcolor="#ff" For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current situation "striking while the iron is hot" is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned.nbsp; It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br br So...a couple questionsbr br -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br -What does your process look likebr -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr br Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?br br Any input is appreciated!br div class="moz-signature"-- br bfont face="Pristina" size="5"Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b br Sales Manager br OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr O: 260.827.2234 br O: 800.363.0989 br F: 260.824.9624 br br "#8230;But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD." Joshua 24:15 /div /body /html
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
The only time that happens, is when windows use's the remote gateway as default gateway. my 2k, XP and 7 all need to have the routes manually added if I do not 'Use remote gateway' On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that is I never know exactly which private subnets I'll need. I guess I can add routes for al the private ranges, but that is kind of a hassle. Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:00, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Are you then setting a few specific routes (so that only your network is routed through the PPTP connection)? You'd probably just need to, after you're connected, add a few routes manually (i.e. something like 'route add -net 10.20.30.0/24 gw your.ppp.peer.ip') You'll probably want to automate that with a shell script or similar. I think Fedora actually has a little GUI you can use, to automatically create routes after setting up a PPTP session and drop them when you disconnect, but I haven't had to do this in quite a while; I apologize for the lack of specifics. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
When I had a wisp, we made all customers create their account online at the end of the install. The first step was agreeing to our terms so that nobody could access our network without clicking through the TOS page and then filling out their information. That was it. It also had the added benefit of showing them thier service was working since they had to do it over the internet. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Jeremy Rodgers jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Cameron, I would love to learn more about your process and how you do this. Does the customer just visit your site and agree by checking a box to terms and conditions? Do they fill out billing info, etc. as well? On 11/11/2010 3:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers wrote: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 /head body text=#00 bgcolor=#ff For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned.nbsp; It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br br So...a couple questionsbr br -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br -What does your process look likebr -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr br Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?br br Any input is appreciated!br div class=moz-signature-- br bfont face=Pristina size=5Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b br Sales Manager br OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr O: 260.827.2234 br O: 800.363.0989 br F: 260.824.9624 br br #8230;But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 /div /body /html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
I've never added the routes on my Win2k3 server box and am creating and tearing down dozens of connections without the default gateway option every couple of minutes...but one at a time. Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: The only time that happens, is when windows use's the remote gateway as default gateway. my 2k, XP and 7 all need to have the routes manually added if I do not 'Use remote gateway' On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that is I never know exactly which private subnets I'll need. I guess I can add routes for al the private ranges, but that is kind of a hassle. Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:00, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Are you then setting a few specific routes (so that only your network is routed through the PPTP connection)? You'd probably just need to, after you're connected, add a few routes manually (i.e. something like 'route add -net 10.20.30.0/24 gw your.ppp.peer.ip') You'll probably want to automate that with a shell script or similar. I think Fedora actually has a little GUI you can use, to automatically create routes after setting up a PPTP session and drop them when you disconnect, but I haven't had to do this in quite a while; I apologize for the lack of specifics. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux PPP connections
I would love to see the output of 'route print' both with the pptp up and down. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I've never added the routes on my Win2k3 server box and am creating and tearing down dozens of connections without the default gateway option every couple of minutes...but one at a time. Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: The only time that happens, is when windows use's the remote gateway as default gateway. my 2k, XP and 7 all need to have the routes manually added if I do not 'Use remote gateway' On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: On Windows I do not add routes. It seems to handle it for me. I'll try adding the routes on linux and see what happens. The main problem with that is I never know exactly which private subnets I'll need. I guess I can add routes for al the private ranges, but that is kind of a hassle. Regards, Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:00, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I disable the option in my windows pptp sessions, and yes I do NOT want to use the remote end as the gateway. It is for a particular purpose. How do I configure linux to update the routes? Is that something I need to specify in the ppp settings? Are you then setting a few specific routes (so that only your network is routed through the PPTP connection)? You'd probably just need to, after you're connected, add a few routes manually (i.e. something like 'route add -net 10.20.30.0/24 gw your.ppp.peer.ip') You'll probably want to automate that with a shell script or similar. I think Fedora actually has a little GUI you can use, to automatically create routes after setting up a PPTP session and drop them when you disconnect, but I haven't had to do this in quite a while; I apologize for the lack of specifics. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip? Our collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the terms. Don On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Well, personally we just did away with contracts. They became cumbersome and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town without paying anyway. We tout this as a positive to our customers - that even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into a long-term agreement. Works GREAT for our college customers. Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides. It lays out just the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then references our TOS for more info. Our installer fills it out with their info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet, gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Don Grossman Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip? Our collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the terms. Don On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] making money from voip
Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Bought the Netsapiens solution. Currently (without taking into consideration the initial server/software cost) we are making about 3.5 x Cost per account. We've been adding 3-5 a week, and as more people learn about us offering it the faster it's selling. My cost per account is roughly $6.25, and we're selling it for $17-45 per line. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.netwrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902
What throughput are you getting?
Can this setup handle 20 - 30 subs?
Thanx
NGL
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From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:38 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902
I have seen this happen many times with our 902 AP as well. Usually
what happens is you have a couple clients that have really poor signals
or modulation and that seems to take down the AP. If you remove those
users from the AP, it will usually clear things up. Another reason i'm
moving away from the TR-902 as an AP and over to Mikrotik.
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
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On 11/9/2010 10:05 AM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Anyone having trouble with TR-902's staying linked? It seems some of the
clients have to be rebooted 2 - 3 times a day and the TR-902 APs need to
be rebooted a at least once time a day. Firmware is TR6-5.0.5Rt. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902
On a 5mhz channel, i can get about 3mbs to the CPE. Not sure how much
it can handle, I only have one MT AP up serving Tr-SL9 clients, have
about 15 people on it with no issues. I would guess it could scale to
30 pretty easy. I run about 40-50 per MT AP on our 2.4 network.
On 11/11/2010 5:28 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
What throughput are you getting?
Can this setup handle 20 - 30 subs?
Thanx
NGL
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From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:38 AM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902
I have seen this happen many times with our 902 AP as well. Usually
what happens is you have a couple clients that have really poor signals
or modulation and that seems to take down the AP. If you remove those
users from the AP, it will usually clear things up. Another reason i'm
moving away from the TR-902 as an AP and over to Mikrotik.
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 11/9/2010 10:05 AM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Anyone having trouble with TR-902's staying linked? It seems some of the
clients have to be rebooted 2 - 3 times a day and the TR-902 APs need to
be rebooted a at least once time a day. Firmware is TR6-5.0.5Rt. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
We partnered with a small VoIP company that is local in our area and resell the service as our own to businesses only. It has worked well for us, but I strongly recommend that you implement some type of QoS for the VoIP packets...at least if you're dealing with businesses. Bret On 11/11/2010 07:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldbergrgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Re local company to partner with. We're looking closely at that option as a preferred course of action for those hard to measure reasons (value of local contact, vested interest in local biz community, etc). Re qos. We have a solid network and know where we can support voice and where we can't. We successfully implement appropriate qos for customers who require it, including two call centers, one at 140 seats and one at 300 seats. How do you handle support? Custom acd, dial plans, etc. I assume your voip partner implements, but what support is yours to deal with, and where do you hand off at? Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: We partnered with a small VoIP company that is local in our area and resell the service as our own to businesses only. It has worked well for us, but I strongly recommend that you implement some type of QoS for the VoIP packets...at least if you're dealing with businesses. Bret On 11/11/2010 07:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldbergrgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Qos has never been much of an issue. We have successfully implemented voip on our wimax, Comcast, suddenlink, and dsl. I do have to say that it is excellent over dsl. I won't put more than 5 lines on dsl due to the upload limitation. The larges single customer I have has 28 lines over Comcast. The largest over our wimax is 22 lines. We do use DSCP 46 over our network to prioritize the voip traffic. Butch's qos has worked excellent for that. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Re local company to partner with. We're looking closely at that option as a preferred course of action for those hard to measure reasons (value of local contact, vested interest in local biz community, etc). Re qos. We have a solid network and know where we can support voice and where we can't. We successfully implement appropriate qos for customers who require it, including two call centers, one at 140 seats and one at 300 seats. How do you handle support? Custom acd, dial plans, etc. I assume your voip partner implements, but what support is yours to deal with, and where do you hand off at? Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: We partnered with a small VoIP company that is local in our area and resell the service as our own to businesses only. It has worked well for us, but I strongly recommend that you implement some type of QoS for the VoIP packets...at least if you're dealing with businesses. Bret On 11/11/2010 07:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldbergrgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - *From:* Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com *Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J Just sharing. Me- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Ditto here. One interesting note: While we condensed down to one page under our lawyers guidance, I had an opportunity to test against a couple of customers who happened to be lawyers! The lawyers conceded. We have not had any issues with customer churn and I do my best to work with the customer depending on why they want to leave. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers wrote: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 /head body text=#00 bgcolor=#ff For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement.nbsp; For competitive reasons we are evaluating this.nbsp; One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it.nbsp; With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned.nbsp; It is also intimidating at 6 pages long.br br So...a couple questionsbr br -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)br -What does your process look likebr -Do your installers get the paperwork signedbr -What advantages are there to a term agreementbr br Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website.nbsp; When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer.nbsp; Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?br br Any input is appreciated!br div class=moz-signature-- br bfont face=Pristina size=5Jeremy J. Rodgers/font/b br Sales Manager br OnlyInternet Broadband and Wirelessbr O: 260.827.2234 br O: 800.363.0989 br F: 260.824.9624 br br #8230;But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 /div /body /html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Customer LOVE options to fit their particular needs and budget. Therefore, we offer multiple options including no agreement (month-to-month) or term agreements up to two years with discounts depending on the length or terms. This is viewed as a positive because of the flexibility. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Well, personally we just did away with contracts. They became cumbersome and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town without paying anyway. We tout this as a positive to our customers - that even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into a long-term agreement. Works GREAT for our college customers. Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides. It lays out just the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then references our TOS for more info. Our installer fills it out with their info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet, gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Don Grossman Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip? Our collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the terms. Don On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-804k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
The first system I owned... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorthStar_Horizon On 11/11/2010 8:57 PM, RickG wrote: The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 4k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the "dating game" :) My first "laptop" was this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the OS, and one for data.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J Just sharing. Me- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
I remember that! It was nice but expensive for a high school kid which is what I was in '79. Of course the darn TRS-80 took all my savings but I had to have it :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: The first system I owned... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorthStar_Horizon On 11/11/2010 8:57 PM, RickG wrote: The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 4k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.comwrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Yeah, But it had COLOR ! (But who needs a screen when there is a TV sitting right there :-). t Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Roger Howard To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3251 - Release Date: 11/11/10 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the OS, and one for data.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:* RickG rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - *From:* Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com *Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J Just sharing. Me- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this message.
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Gotta luv the data cassette tape. Portable storage, even fit in shirt pocket. It could have been worse, it could have been bulky 8-track :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the OS, and one for data.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J Just sharing. Me- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
How do you handle the line pool problem? It's the only issue keeping me from going to Vox for business customers-most businesses have multiple lines where a customer calls in and gets whatever line is free in the pool. Vox can do line forwarding, but that means the customer has to call the first line in the forwarding sequence and there's a delay while each line is found to be busy before it's forwarded (I assume), so it isn't the same as normal line pool. Would love a practical solution to this problem. Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
You have to get them to enable hunting. It's not the same as forwarding. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: How do you handle the line pool problem? It's the only issue keeping me from going to Vox for business customers-most businesses have multiple lines where a customer calls in and gets whatever line is free in the pool. Vox can do line forwarding, but that means the customer has to call the first line in the forwarding sequence and there's a delay while each line is found to be busy before it's forwarded (I assume), so it isn't the same as normal line pool. Would love a practical solution to this problem. Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Are you talking about hunt groups? If so it works identical to Att. Say a business has a main line and 3 roll over lines. If someone calls the main line and it is busy it automatically rolls to line 2 or 3 or 4. No waiting. If there is no answer on any of the rollover lines it will roll back to the main line voice mail. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: How do you handle the line pool problem? It's the only issue keeping me from going to Vox for business customers-most businesses have multiple lines where a customer calls in and gets whatever line is free in the pool. Vox can do line forwarding, but that means the customer has to call the first line in the forwarding sequence and there's a delay while each line is found to be busy before it's forwarded (I assume), so it isn't the same as normal line pool. Would love a practical solution to this problem. Chuck On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 21:43 -0500, RickG wrote: Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) I remember those days. The cassette was a MAJOR upgrade for me. I recall spending hours writing a program one time and my brother came by and unplugged the computer! After that, I was careful to leave a note until I got the storage. WHAT a GREAT upgrade that was! -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
I know someone who did have a 8-Track data setup. Home built and used 2 or 3 heads from cassette units. That is one of the key points they brought me into computers in the early 80's. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: Gotta luv the data cassette tape. Portable storage, even fit in shirt pocket. It could have been worse, it could have been bulky 8-track :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:* RickG rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the OS, and one for data.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:* RickG rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - *From:* Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com *Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J Just sharing. Me- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Uh Dude, I actually owned one of THESE and back in the day I was the DUDE! Now I'm just the OLD dude who is court ordered to stay away within 1000 feet of the local high school... sad http://oldcomputers.net/compaqi.html Still have it by the way. Along with my still working 1984 Apple Mac! I have no life From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Been there. Found that customers were increasingly aggravated with contracts. Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will. I give a spiel of how contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign a contract, they must know something that you don't We're family and you are now part of it. If you don't like the service, call me.. yada, yada, yada. We all bond and it's all good. Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers. (It's all marketing) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Rodgers Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Service contracts For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- Jeremy J. Rodgers Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 .But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Contracts are never for the client. They are always to protect you - the seller. Without a contract - if a business comes and states that you are responsible for a loss of business - you might think twice. Verbal contracts are only as good as the paper they are written on. Just ask Judge Joe Brown ;-) Funny part is - Most business clients want a contract. Even for our hosting customers its the same. Go figure On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Robert West wrote: Been there. Found that customers were increasingly “aggravated” with contracts. Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will. I give a spiel of how “contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign a contract, they must know something that you don’t………. We’re family and you are now part of it. If you don’t like the service, call me…… yada, yada, yada. We all bond and it’s all good. Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers. (It’s all marketing) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Rodgers Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Service contracts For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- Jeremy J. Rodgers Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 …But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
I win. HA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Compaq, gotta love it. That one has the whopping fast 4.77MHz CPU and 768k of RAM... I had a similar Kaypro 'portable'. Not sure where they got the portable from, but it did have a handle... Bobby From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Uh Dude, I actually owned one of THESE and back in the day I was the DUDE! Now I'm just the OLD dude who is court ordered to stay away within 1000 feet of the local high school... sad http://oldcomputers.net/compaqi.html Still have it by the way. Along with my still working 1984 Apple Mac! I have no life From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
My first was.. Get ready. http://oldcomputers.net/heathkit-h8.html YES! Heath Kit H8. I'm such a geek. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:58 PM To: ro...@g5i.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 4k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
I had to have the Trash 80... always hated that But still use it.. Had to have it cause of the voice synthesizer unit. Had WAY too much fun making prank calls with the computer talking in that Steven Hawking voice. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I remember that! It was nice but expensive for a high school kid which is what I was in '79. Of course the darn TRS-80 took all my savings but I had to have it :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: The first system I owned... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorthStar_Horizon On 11/11/2010 8:57 PM, RickG wrote: The VIC-20 was my second computer. This was my first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 4k ram :) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
Same here. Long hours typing in the code for that damn lunar lander game and what happens? The tape gets stretched Nice. And they were OFFICIAL TRS-80 tapes! HA!!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Tom, it gets better as I go back further in time. I had to use a cassette tape for storage with my TRS-80 - no floppy ;) On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: WOW, 10MB hard drive, you had the good stuff. My Laptop only had Floppy drives. One for the OS, and one for data.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable It was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
The TOS and whom owns what pretty much covers it all for me. Contract hidden inside! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts Contracts are never for the client. They are always to protect you - the seller. Without a contract - if a business comes and states that you are responsible for a loss of business - you might think twice. Verbal contracts are only as good as the paper they are written on. Just ask Judge Joe Brown ;-) Funny part is - Most business clients want a contract. Even for our hosting customers its the same. Go figure On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Robert West wrote: Been there. Found that customers were increasingly aggravated with contracts. Turned it all upside down and now I only have them sign a combo TOS and the equipment is ours and we can come and go to service it at will. I give a spiel of how contracts are BS because if someone wants you to sign a contract, they must know something that you don't We're family and you are now part of it. If you don't like the service, call me.. yada, yada, yada. We all bond and it's all good. Works for us and we become the rebels against the contract pushers. (It's all marketing) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Rodgers Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:39 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Service contracts For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from contract creation to customer returning it. With our current situation striking while the iron is hot is not possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It is also intimidating at 6 pages long. So...a couple questions -How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term) -What does your process look like -Do your installers get the paperwork signed -What advantages are there to a term agreement Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this? Any input is appreciated! -- Jeremy J. Rodgers Sales Manager OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless O: 260.827.2234 O: 800.363.0989 F: 260.824.9624 .But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
It is indeed one speedy sob. My first users group meeting with it..(was like AA but without the fun) it was a total babe magnet.. not me though. Stick that with a USR 9600 baud modem... Smokin'!!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Burrow Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Compaq, gotta love it. That one has the whopping fast 4.77MHz CPU and 768k of RAM... I had a similar Kaypro 'portable'. Not sure where they got the portable from, but it did have a handle... Bobby From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Uh Dude, I actually owned one of THESE and back in the day I was the DUDE! Now I'm just the OLD dude who is court ordered to stay away within 1000 feet of the local high school... sad http://oldcomputers.net/compaqi.html Still have it by the way. Along with my still working 1984 Apple Mac! I have no life From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
So my first (I was born in 1977) was a Apple II (I was like 4 when I got to play with it...) We had an Atari VCS as well... A TRS-80 Color Computer (thought this was the bomb!) Then we had the good ol' Commodore 64 My uncle loved macs and had am original Apple Macintosh (never liked it, and my dad and I called him weird) I remember when my school was donated Apple III's in 1st grade, which were upgraded to Apple IIGS We had an IBM ThinkPad as well Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: It is indeed one speedy sob. My first users group meeting with it….(was like AA but without the fun) it was a total babe magnet…… not me though. Stick that with a USR 9600 baud modem….. Smokin’!!! *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bobby Burrow *Sent:* Friday, November 12, 2010 12:58 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Compaq, gotta love it. That one has the whopping fast 4.77MHz CPU and 768k of RAM... I had a similar Kaypro 'portable'. Not sure where they got the portable from, but it did have a handle... Bobby *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert West *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:30 PM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Uh………. Dude, I actually owned one of THESE and back in the day…….. I was the DUDE! Now I’m just the OLD dude who is court ordered to stay away within 1000 feet of the local high school….. sad http://oldcomputers.net/compaqi.html Still have it by the way. Along with my still working 1984 Apple Mac! I have no life *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Forbes Mercy *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:16 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - *From:* Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com *Sent*: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I’m hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way……… But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I’ve had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it’s been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links…….. I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It’s about time! J Just sharing. Me- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
77? You just be a kid! J (Wife #3 was a '77 model.. I returned her) 1962, had to be content with red boxing and phone phreaking for way too long. The original Apple Mac was a god send! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 1:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel So my first (I was born in 1977) was a Apple II (I was like 4 when I got to play with it...) We had an Atari VCS as well... A TRS-80 Color Computer (thought this was the bomb!) Then we had the good ol' Commodore 64 My uncle loved macs and had am original Apple Macintosh (never liked it, and my dad and I called him weird) I remember when my school was donated Apple III's in 1st grade, which were upgraded to Apple IIGS We had an IBM ThinkPad as well Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: It is indeed one speedy sob. My first users group meeting with it..(was like AA but without the fun) it was a total babe magnet.. not me though. Stick that with a USR 9600 baud modem... Smokin'!!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Burrow Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Compaq, gotta love it. That one has the whopping fast 4.77MHz CPU and 768k of RAM... I had a similar Kaypro 'portable'. Not sure where they got the portable from, but it did have a handle... Bobby From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel Uh Dude, I actually owned one of THESE and back in the day I was the DUDE! Now I'm just the OLD dude who is court ordered to stay away within 1000 feet of the local high school... sad http://oldcomputers.net/compaqi.html Still have it by the way. Along with my still working 1984 Apple Mac! I have no life From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel My first LAPtop was a Kaypro 10, thank goodness I didn't have to pay baggage on it since it was as large as my travel bag... monochrome green screen with a huge 10MB hard drive and ran hot enough to fry an egg. On 11/11/2010 8:09 AM, Mark Nash wrote: Haha... You young people don't remember the term WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... A term for applications that made it so that documents actually LOOKED on your screen like they were going to print (anyone remember Kaypro WordStar?). I had a revolutionary idea technological in the early 90's... I called it WYGIWYM... What you get is what you MEAN. I'da been a qua-jillionaire but I didn't execute. Oh well. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel I'd pay a little more when they come out with the auto-install feature... Maybe one day - Auto-Everything. Just take it out of the box and plug it in. It figures out what to do where... They can call it AIRverywhere Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel FYI I'm hesitant to jump into UBNT Beta firmware for large scale deployment, lesson learned the hard way... But the latest includes channel hopping and Auto channel. I've had ongoing issues with random interference and every couple of weeks or so have had to change my frequencies on pretty much all my UBNT radios. But I took the plunge with this new beta and it's been SOLID for me for a week now. I tried the channel hopping but it was too busy for me. My noise floor was all over the place. SUCKED and way too random for me BUT just doing a simple AUTO channel. Smooth as silk! My interference is now GONE. My throughput has increased and my noise floor went from an average -85 to a -95 to -100 average. Running 5GHz on all links I call this one a WIN! As I said, FYI. Nothing but good on this UBNT Beta. It's about time! J Just sharing. Me- _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
