Re: [abcusers] ABC sites

2003-10-15 Thread Forgeot Eric
>I've updated the Free Sheet Music Directory /.../ >Did I miss any? I have a small website with a few (500) hometranscribed tunes : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/ ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo

Re: [abcusers] ps viewer on windows?

2003-08-28 Thread Forgeot Eric
you can d/l eventually only GhostScript, GhostView is not really needed, but it's much more conveniant to use in addition to GS. If you need only a really minimal package (only 3.2 Mb) you can try this : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/abcghost.html (and curse MSDOS commands for its stupid beavi

Re: [abcusers] ABC as Tablature

2003-08-24 Thread Forgeot Eric
>More significantly, tab needs a sound previewer even more than >ABC does. A PostScript generator alone is just going to lead >to lots of beautifully typeset nonsense. no, similar in a way to abc2midi and yaps, tab can generate both midi and postscript. "tab filename" generate a ps file, while "t

Re: [abcusers] ABC as Tablature (2)

2003-08-23 Thread Forgeot Eric
I forget to say also, TablEdit http://www.tabledit.com/, can use ABC, and Wayne Cripps' tab, and is available for mswindows and macOs X ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo

Re: [abcusers] ABC as Tablature

2003-08-22 Thread Forgeot Eric
Hello, I agree the site (http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/AboutTab.html) is not really user friendly because you can only get the sources, and maybe (but I'm not sure) the binaries from the ftp site, in a folder that has disappeared now. I think the MSwindows binaries were available, and sinc

Re: [abcusers] ABC as Tablature

2003-08-21 Thread Forgeot Eric
>I've noticed it, but since it's not cross-platform compatible, it's >pretty useless as a *standard* format. >Nice idea, though. ? not cross platform compatible ??? The sources are provided, so you just have to get a C++ compiler and compile them on your machine. So I guess even on Atari it

Re: [abcusers] ABC as Tablature

2003-08-21 Thread Forgeot Eric
Hello, it's nice to see here posts related to music only :) Do abcusers know also about Wayne Cripps' tab program ? it's similar to abc and can produce good tablature for lute, converting the ascii source into postscript : http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/AboutTab.html and the tabs (simila

[abcusers] Re: abcm2ps and 'extras'

2003-08-07 Thread Forgeot Eric
Hello, I've tried your code with the latest ghostscript / gv, but it seems it doesn't work. Do you have a postscript / pdf output of what it should display ? about %%postscript, if I'm not mistaken, it's adding pure ps command to your output, while %%deco will interact the abc file with those ps c

Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

2003-08-02 Thread Forgeot Eric
Sorry to disagree here but if you wish to add long barlines between group of staves, I'd suggest to use a different symbol than | . In the way how abcm2ps presently works, I didn't find a pb using | to separate staves, but now it seems a bit strange to use | which means separation (separation of

[abcusers] abcghost bug

2003-07-28 Thread Forgeot Eric
I apologize if someone has already tried this abcghost package I talked about this morning, I changed a last thing before releasing it and a bug occured that prevent to display and convert to pdf. I've uploaded a correct version and a patch at : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/abcghost.html http://

[abcusers] package for abcm2ps, abc2midi ghostscript and pdf conversion for partitions

2003-07-28 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've created a package for making the use of abcm2ps and abc2midi easier for MSwindows users. You can find this here : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/abcghost.html (it's freeware of course) The size for this installer is 3.2 Mb, and it contains Abc2midi, Abcm2ps, an old version of GhostScript for

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-26 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Changing abcm2ps to use *...* instead of !...! (it accepts ! for a >linebreak already) would be a matter of minutes work for Jef. Changing ABC2Win >is not possible. no, we don't ask people to change their way of notation or Abc2Win to be improved or conform to anything : !-for-line-break addic

Re: [abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics

2003-07-24 Thread Forgeot Eric
>>The & operator may be used to temporarily overlay >>several voices within one measure. The & operator I can understand this when it comes to (temporary) voices, with several melodies. But sometimes it concerns only chords, for ex. a chord with two wholes and one with a half, it seems less logic

Subject: Re: [abcusers] About the choice of '!'

2003-07-24 Thread Forgeot Eric
I said it could be adviced to use it with care. If someone is using this kind of notation ...|!dead!trill!beef|... then one has made a mistake because it could be misunderstood. It's also the reason why I think in the 2.0 standard * should be used for forced line break instead. And why a mistake

[abcusers] RE : Help - getting ABC files on BarFly

2003-07-24 Thread Forgeot Eric
Do you use HFVExplorer ? I think it can convert automatically files between mac and pc. I had no problem for opening my abc files with BarFly then http://www.nic.fi/~lpesonen/HFVExplorer/ ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite

Re: [abcusers] About the choice of '!'

2003-07-24 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Let's see; if I read this correctly, then in the line: > > ...|!dead!trill!beef|... > >the !dead! would be the decoration, and the staff break >would come in the middle of the bar. Right? Good point, but generally people who are using one "system" (who belong to the abc2win sect for ex., o

[abcusers] RE : Abacus

2003-07-22 Thread Forgeot Eric
>"crash less" but still some? yes, while I tried it and was writing this "review", I wrote "it doesn't crash for nothing", but I got a crash at this very moment... I tried later and it generally crashes after I copy and paste in the box (after removing the notes, but I guess the previous headers [

[abcusers] Abcpp

2003-07-22 Thread Forgeot Eric
it seems I forgot to send this post... I apologize to post it again if I already did so >Any programmers here that feel the call to create a nice little >conversion program/script for the benefit of the world at large? /.../ >Note that with such a program, there is no need to cleanup old ABC >fi

Re: [abcusers] ABC sects

2003-07-22 Thread Forgeot Eric
>I don't like %%midi transpose, because >transposition is nothing to do with midi, I forget to talk about that, an advantage of BarFly is, if I understood well, it can transpose either the notation, or the sound, or both. The %%midi transpose is limited because it make transpose both (of course it

[abcusers] Abacus

2003-07-22 Thread Forgeot Eric
There are good improvements in this new version, and it seems also it crash less, unlike the previous version. The midi rendering is good also. I think you already know for lyrics and multivoice :) (it lacks cruelly) but will there be a midi export as well ? A few suggestions : You made a "full a

Re: [abcusers] ABC sects

2003-07-18 Thread Forgeot Eric
>>convert my tunes to make them display when each V: label occurs >>only once (on big score it's less readable, but not on smaller >BarFly has a built-in command to do that - Format Tune under >the Utilities menu will rearrange the abc into the format >that the program likes (or the other way, if

[abcusers] RE : %%ABC 2.0 identifier

2003-07-16 Thread Forgeot Eric
>I don't know if whatI'm about to suggest has been suggested before,/.../ > it's fairly clear to me that the real key to >writing any new specification is adding some identifier that says that the tune >conforms to the new specification. For example, maybe something like: > >%%ABC3.0 > >...anywh

[abcusers] ABC sects

2003-07-16 Thread Forgeot Eric
>I use this abc for obtaining, sending, transcribing and printing tunes >- I use emacs/xemacs as editor with abc-mode and then to produce top >quality printed music I use jcabc2ps - what is *wrong* with the abc2ps's ?? I think jcabc2ps was not targeted in the list of the bad applications, of co

[abcusers] line-break again !!!! :)

2003-07-16 Thread Forgeot Eric
>masochistic altruist who will go back and remove all the line-break !s >from all the tune files created with abc2win over the last eight years or so which >might annoy I guess it's quite easy, sitting confortable behind my computer without knowing how to program, to find a "solution" for a pro

Re: [abcusers] Looking for help on printing

2003-07-14 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Is there a way to do this with any of the ABC programs? I currently >use >ABC2Win, and can't figure out a way to do it. I hate the idea of >printing >each individually. I thought it was possible to print several pages with abc2win... otherwise as someone said, abc#2ps can do this. If it's onl

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps?

2003-07-14 Thread Forgeot Eric
>this is what the archive abcm2ps-3.6.4.zip contains: > 165376 07-08-03 13:10 abcm2ps-3.6.4/abcm2ps.exe I guess he d/l the archive from JF Moine's website, and not your, otherwise he would have got this binary ;) Otherwise for more help with abcm2ps (automatic laucher), this page may be usef

Re: [abcusers] Re: Stars and Bangs

2003-07-07 Thread Forgeot Eric
>> 1/ Let's define "!break!" and "!nobreak!" as symbols >>which can both be used mid-line. >> 2/ Let's define "*" as an alias of the !break! symbol, >>which could also be used mid-line. >No. Look at my examples again: ! as a mid-line break works way >better than the more visually intrusiv

Re: [abcusers] Stars and Bangs

2003-07-07 Thread Forgeot Eric
>When printing music I would expect the music to look like > > > > >=== >with only the last line maybe not being right-justified. Me too ! >Does non-right justify mean the score could be > >=

Re: RE : [abcusers] abc2midi and other MIDI-supporting

2003-07-04 Thread Forgeot Eric
hehe, I didn't say that, only quoted it... On Fri, 4 Jul 2003, [iso-8859-1] Forgeot Eric wrote: > >It isn't being actively supported any more, though. It has now a new maintainer, Seymour Shlien. > > We discussed its bug with broken-rhythms constructs &

Re: [abcusers] bloody ! again

2003-07-04 Thread Forgeot Eric
>This is the wrong way to look at it. abc2win is barely being >maintained, but tunes created with its aid are the largest single >corpus on the web. It's the tunes you need to care about, not >the software. ok, I guess that *almost* all of those tunes are from folk tradition. Do you honestly thi

RE : [abcusers] abc2midi and other MIDI-supporting software

2003-07-04 Thread Forgeot Eric
>It isn't being actively supported any more, though. We discussed >its bug with broken-rhythms constructs what, two years ago? getting >the nearest I've ever seen us get to total consensus, and even though >fixing it was a matter of altering one numeric constant in the source, >it hasn't been don

[abcusers] Re: b&w ps output

2003-07-02 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Is it possible to instruct (or modify) abcm2ps to >create pure "black and white" PS output (without gray >values) and to draw the staff lines as thin as >possible? This way the output would look much clearer >on the web. as far as I know, abcm2ps creates pure b&w output, but probably your default

[abcusers] re : My point of view on the abc standard

2003-07-02 Thread Forgeot Eric
>At least partly because the prospect of setting it up, installing >ghostscript to view graphics. etc. it just too daunting for them. >What these users (probably the majority of PC users) want is something >that is easy to use and works on thier system it's true I often recommended Abc to sever

Re: [abcusers] The abc standard

2003-07-01 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Jef Moine (because of abcm2ps) >John Chambers (because of the tune finder, jcabc2ps, etc) >Phil Taylor (because of BarFly) >Henrik Norbeck (because of AbcMus and bnf spec) >Guido Gonzato (because of abcplus and lots of other stuff) I agree to this choice > #include. There might be an > #include.

Re: [abcusers] the abc standard

2003-07-01 Thread Forgeot Eric
> responsibility over the standard. Personally, I would > propose Jef Moine and Guido Gonzato: Jef because he's I think it's a good idea, if they agree of course ;) I think also of John Chamber. >Just one comment: having a software developer in charge of standards is >a conflict of interests. S/h

[abcusers] RE : abc and microtonality

2003-06-27 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've read with great attention and interest the last thread about microtone. Although I'm not an expert in this field, I'm interested in writing notation for persian music, and playing it as well. I regret I haven't worked much on this project (including transcribing music) recently, but I had a pa

[abcusers] abcm2ps

2003-06-06 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Nevertheless, everyone's ideas are welcome last time I was using abc for creating some midi file with several voices with the same notes (to get a "bigger" sound) When I used abcm2ps for viewing the note, I realized there isn't in the standard, nor in abcm2ps (it seems) an option to avoit printin

[abcusers] Re: Unicodes

2003-05-30 Thread Forgeot Eric
It's not really about unicode, but I'm copying here what Tibor Lapohos wrote about this issue of specific fonts : I am wrinting to let those interested know what the solution to properly displaying the Hungarian specific characters bacame. After trying a few things I was suggested to do (thank yo

[abcusers] ps2gif?

2003-03-19 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Can someone please tell me how to convert a .ps to a .gif? I have GS on mswindows and I don't use linux much. I think it's the same there, you can use one of the tool they provide to convert .ps to .png. Then use a graphic editor to convert the png to gif, but btw png should be enough and better.

Re: [abcusers] Bb and Eb instruments (Linux)

2003-03-15 Thread Forgeot Eric
Thank you, I don't think I'll use this one for this kind of work, but I may need to study how this kind of script works for a similar purpose, so it'll be very usefull. >If anyone can use these scripts for anything I am happy to share >them >wit= >h=20 >you. ___

Re: Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?

2003-03-13 Thread Forgeot Eric
Hello >These look great. If you publish the postscript code I will >include the "fonts" (the noteheads and clefs, anyway) in iabc. as said on the website, the postscript fonts are published : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/renaiss_music_font.zip ___

[abcusers] abcm2ps and EPS

2003-03-08 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've tried the new feature of Abcm2ps, for including eps files. The eps provided in the source is very clean, so there is no pb with it. I created one with a vectorial application, but when I imported it it didn't work : the first time there was a buffer overflow (I recompiled it with a more toler

[abcusers] re : ANNOUNCEMENT - "Typesetting Music with ABC" available

2003-03-08 Thread Forgeot Eric
yes, this manual is nice. I've d/l the italian manual when it was released and couldn't understand all in it, but I got the impression at least it was well done and well detailed. The english version confirm that, even if I haven't studied all in depth (since I already know how to use most of abcm2

Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?

2003-03-08 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've already converted them to postscript, thanks PfaEdit. I tried to replace the fonts used in the source code of Abcm2ps, for getting 2 different binaries. As explained on my site, the exported fonts (by PfaEdit) where different in the definition from the postscript code used in Abcm2ps JF Moine

[abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?

2003-03-06 Thread Forgeot Eric
Hello, it's still a work in progress, but you can look at : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/renaissance_fonts.html ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsu

Re: [abcusers] Inverted quadruplets

2003-03-01 Thread Forgeot Eric
thank you very much, I had forgotten this notation's existance. Now all just work fine. I'll add this in my abc tutorial (in french) >Writing F5/4 will cause problems for most display programs, since >the time value 5/4 can't be displayed as a single note in staff >notation. Player programs will

[abcusers] Inverted quadruplets

2003-02-26 Thread Forgeot Eric
in Abc notation, for playing 5 notes in the time of 4 we can use quintuplet. Now, let think I want the opposite, playing 4 notes in the time of 5. How can I do that ? I used for ex : F,5/4F5/4C5/4F5/4 instead of F,FCF . It seems correct this way, but some applications seems to complain (abcm2ps for

[abcusers] Adding PostScript fonts?

2003-02-14 Thread Forgeot Eric
oups, it seems I forget to post this one after typing it... If you're using ghostscript... you put in /fonts/ your new fonts (ex : Hansagotisch.pfb, maybe there are also other definitions, I can't remember, such as Hansagotisch.afm, Hansagotisch.inf Hansagotisch.pfm but they're probably not all n

[abcusers] online abc previewer

2003-02-09 Thread Forgeot Eric
>> I'm not sure my hosting service would allow to run applications... >Hmmm, that would be a problem... yes, I tried yesterday, they don't allow this, I uploaded a version of abcm2ps I compiled on linux, but they don't even allow to change the CHMOD on it so it's not possible to run it. And many

[abcusers] online abc previewer

2003-02-08 Thread Forgeot Eric
>http://atte.dyndns.dk/lovsang/input.php >Feel free to try it out and share any thoughts (please say which >browser and platform). >(sorry, it's only in danish for now, "vis" means "show", "slet alt" >means "clear everything"): Well, gratulieren da ! It looks very good ! Is it a result from

[abcusers] Re: abc for linux

2003-01-06 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Welcome to the promised land! >I'm afraid you'll have to get used to the Unix/Linux way of >getting >some >things done lol, welcome to the promised land where all is harder to work :) btw among all the programs you mentionned I use them both on window$ and linux ;) _

Re: [abcusers] 8va notation, abcm2ps

2003-01-05 Thread Forgeot Eric
> Does anybody know how (if possible) to put octave notation, e.g. > > "8va basso - - - - - - " > > into abc so that abcm2ps can render it? I tried making it > lyrics, and Yes I know : write something like that : K:C treble-8 maybe for you it will be instead bass-8 for octave up it would be

[abcusers] Laurie Griffiths : sad news

2002-11-29 Thread Forgeot Eric
ouch, it's very shocking to learn... I didn't know him personnaly, but I knew him by just a few emails and on this list... It's such a pity ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.ya

[abcusers] Violin duet

2002-11-29 Thread Forgeot Eric
interesting arrangement, was the last catchy part inspired by some Dimmu Borgir tunes ? ;) I joke, it's much better than them of course ! but it's because it sounds fastr this way ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en

Re: [abcusers] iabc 0.6 released

2002-11-23 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've tried the midi export, it works good, but if I want to hear midi directly from iabc, it seems to work only with the windows media players (I have 2 sound cards and the first one, with no output right now, is the default one use by media player, but that's not the pb) : I tried to set other mi

[abcusers] Goodbye

2002-11-20 Thread Forgeot Eric
Frank, I'm so sorry you can't maintain Musicaviva any longer... It was a good place on the web. Is there a hope it will come back again ? Is it a money problem (cost of servers...) ? If so it's a real pity then. Can't you move to a free account ? I've seen also you speak about a job problem. I'

[abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps

2002-11-18 Thread Forgeot Eric
>So you've got your abcm2ps Windows executable - but I suspect that what >you do *next* is also causing you some doubt. whoo, it's a very complete and well detailled step by step process you've written Steve ! I remember your good tutorial for the abc notation (I probably used it when I begin w

re : [abcusers] abc drum notation and abc2ps

2002-11-15 Thread Forgeot Eric
If you have access to a linux system, you can always create the new symbols using the application PfaEdit http://pfaedit.sourceforge.net/ It works fine. Then, with the %%deco option in abcm2ps, you can add new symbols. I'm currently working on such stuffs, it's not that easy but it works. _

Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps

2002-11-15 Thread Forgeot Eric
>abc2ps (and abcm2ps) assumes you have knowledge of how to compile C on >your computer oh, you should probably use Abcm2ps, it's newer and better than the old abc2ps. Binaries and helps can be found on Guido Gonzato's website. I don't have the url here you can find it with www.google.com and p

[abcusers] The > symbol and abc2midi

2002-11-03 Thread Forgeot Eric
instead of adding the midi command for each tune, you may find it easier to recompile the sources you just have to change this : in the file store.c ratio_a = 2; ratio_b = 6; (6 instead of 4, which made the Hornpipe rythm) I can also provide my recompiled version if you prefer not to bo

[abcusers] RE : Finally, a tune I know!

2002-10-25 Thread Forgeot Eric
nice tune ! isn't this part a bit strange ? BcBc z4 |B2 c2 d2 e2| except the problem about the blank lines you should avoid (the issue has already been debated so I won't comment more), you could if possible give all the clues you have about the tune in the diverse fields (ex : H: B: C: etc.). Y

[abcusers] RE : quarter-tones with abc in abc2midi and abcm2ps

2002-10-23 Thread Forgeot Eric
About his quartertone notation, I managed to use some postscript fonts for using in Abcm2ps. I've made also an equivalence for western music, like the one found in some bretonian songs (I found it in a CD) I've upload a pdf with the result if some may be interested : anamnese.online.fr/abc/quarte

[abcusers] quarter-tones in abc2midi (correction)

2002-10-04 Thread Forgeot Eric
I made a mistake in my last post about quarter-notes : to have them, pitchbend must be set to 48 or 80, not 32 or 96. Here is the code again : if (strcmp(p, "koron") == 0) { event_specific("MIDI", "pitchbend 0 48"); done = 1; }; if (strcmp(p, "sori") == 0) { event_specific("MID

[abcusers] quarter-tones with abc in abc2midi - Pitchbend in abc2midi

2002-10-04 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've studied a bit the code of abc2midi and found it was probably difficult to make some change in it (for the value "pitch") so that new quarter notes can be added between the "normal" notes : the array "pitch" is set for integer values (and many times in the code, not easy to change this to floa

[abcusers] quarter-tones with abc

2002-10-02 Thread Forgeot Eric
I'm transcribing some Persian (Iranian) musics, and I'm currently working on some additional fonts for abcm2ps for the quarter tones (called koron for quarter-tone flat and sori for quarter-tone sharp). Is there a way to make some abc application play quarter-tones (and/or other subdivision of ton

[abcusers] Jcabc2ps for MSWIN (new version from the corrected sources)

2002-10-01 Thread Forgeot Eric
Well, strange enough I didn't get any warning this time when I compiled (using mingw), I may have done something wrong the last time (maybe by adding and removing some flags for cygwin, then there was wrong flags when I compiled with mingw). The new binary, with the 20020929 sources, are now at :

[abcusers] Jcabc2ps for MSWIN

2002-09-28 Thread Forgeot Eric
Hello, Someone asked for a binary release of jcabc2ps for Mswin. I've put one at http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/jcabc2ps.zip (It's the 24 sept 02 version I've just compiled and it is 250 ko) I can't guarantee it will work perfect (I mean "like the unix version"). It compiled with a lots of warnin

[abcusers] Abacus (again) and sound cards.

2002-08-13 Thread Forgeot Eric
I have two sound cards on my system and it has revealed that Abacus doesn't follow the sound properties in the MSwindows configuration : I have the second one by default for playing samples / midi but Abacus plays only with the first one. ___

[abcusers] Re : suggestions for [A4A2] notation

2002-08-13 Thread Forgeot Eric
>: is about. Look at the Subject line. The topic is abc bracketed chord >: notation. The melody note in a chord is the one that a monphonic >: player plays. There's nothing deeper than that. I started only with this topic because I saw there was some applications which begun to use a notat

[abcusers] Abacus printing problem

2002-08-12 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've reported in the past a print problem for abacus (it prints only parts of the score (-> the key, time signature, the notes but not the tails, the bar lines but not the staves). I've tried to print something else on an other computer with an other printer (Canon BJC-210, the first time it was a

[abcusers] RE : Different-size note heads

2002-08-08 Thread Forgeot Eric
>With the current syntax, a { can't be >followed by a digit. So the suggestion is to allow a digit after { as >a note size. Wonderfull idea ! Maybe I ask too much, but is it intended to have the possibility to have those small notes in parenthesis also ? We can find this notation in some

[abcusers] re : suggestions for [A4A2] notation

2002-08-03 Thread Forgeot Eric
Bryan Creer : >I've gone for highest note prevails in the counting of the times so you >can do things like - > >X:1 >T:The Cotillion >C:Trad (Bosham Band) >M:4/4 >L:1/8 >K:G >[G4D4][d4B,4]|[B2D4]AB [G2B,4]AB|[c2E4]B2[A2D4]G2|[FD4]GAF [D3A,3]D| > I've seen that Skink happily supports this notat

[abcusers] re : Abacus 1.0.0

2002-08-03 Thread Forgeot Eric
>>- I didn't managed to print scores with my HP DeskJet 520 Printer. >It works OK on my Epson Stylus 440. I'll try it on other printers to check this... >I can't see the point of taking up >valuable >space on the screen for something you aren't using all the time. But for browsing several tu

[abcusers] re : Skink sound, Abacus 1.0.0, and iabc

2002-07-31 Thread Forgeot Eric
>>Eric> it still has problem with the sound, >Have you tried the latest version (that just came out last week)? I >still have problems playing in Linux, but I didn't hit any problems on >Windows in the small amount of testing I did there. Of course I did :) I'll always check new version of a

[abcusers] re : Abacus 1.0.0 launch

2002-07-30 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Abacus is an abc editor/player/printer programme - >Windows only I'm afraid. Nice program ! I like when there are new abc applications, so I can complete my collection :) > The print quality is adequate without being outstanding. The display is good. I'll give you my first impressions, if

[abcusers] RE : suggested patch for abcm2ps-2.11.3

2002-07-24 Thread Forgeot Eric
I don't know if JF Moine often read this list (from times to times he posts here) so I take the right to answer this question (and because I regulary download the latest Abcm2ps release) : First, abcm2ps is now at version 3.0.20 (at least) !! Is this 2.11.3 version from the sourceforce.net ? The

[abcusers] some bugs in abcmus2 beta

2002-07-15 Thread Forgeot Eric
In abcmus2 beta 1 In the "change default length" tool, I had a "^f>^g a " (in K:Am), and the tool gave " ^f2>_a2 a2 ". I expected " ^f2>^g2 a2 " instead, without shifting notes... (it occurs when the whole tune is processed) Worse, this same tool doesn't seem to care about the rests when it chang

[abcusers] RE : tune finder

2002-07-13 Thread Forgeot Eric
> That depends. Do you just want the information to be present > somewhere in the headers? Or would you like software to be able to > use the information sensibly? both if possible. I want pple to be able to find again this tune if they had only the tune somewhere else, or to come bac

[abcusers] Dance Notation (was : ABC source code license? & what I'm planning...)

2002-07-13 Thread Forgeot Eric
>The two symbolic notations I'm aware of are Labanotation and Banesh >notation (a bit simpler version). You might want to look into that. Yes, I talked in my last email about Don Herbison-Evans' software to handle Labanotation system, and create movies of people dancing from a Labanoation coding

[abcusers] RE : tune finder

2002-07-11 Thread Forgeot Eric
It's maybe possible for your tune finder to use this code to archive the tune (I don't know exactly how the tune finder works) and if there is no replicant of the tune (i.e. if the original website where the tune has its origin is down) to use it nevertheless, so the code would mean only "it's no

[abcusers] RE : ABC source code license? & what I'm planning...

2002-07-11 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Well, I suppose DNA is coding. yes, and there is enven a Dna2Abc on sourceforge ! http://dna2abc.sourceforge.net/ (and it doesn't seems to be a joke for Chris Walshaw's Abc international) >I want to build an application that depicts classical >dance via language scripts and a musical score (pi

[abcusers] Arbeau's Orchesography

2002-07-07 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've been warned of an Arbeau's Orchesography with the FULL TEXT in middle french, and abc, available on line at : http://graner.net/nicolas/arbeau/ I thought first the author made an other abc transcription (there is already one by Steve Mansfield, by me and several tunes were transcribed by Fra

[abcusers] JC's tune finder

2002-07-07 Thread Forgeot Eric
Concerning John Chamber tune finder (I find it very useful and use it to find new tune, but I download always the full version of the abc file on the original site, so if I'm a bit fool, it's obviously for other reasons) Jack Campin said : > assuming you haven't been fool enough to fish >a single

[abcusers] re : shortcuts in Muse

2002-07-04 Thread Forgeot Eric
> Furthermore a snippet that is >copying may alter the context for following notes (for instance it may >include a K:) so that makes about 8 variants that's why I prefer using plain text abc instead of graphical notes, so this is only the bare text I copy : in fact for transcribing I don't need m

[abcusers] re : The (illegal) sounds of silence

2002-07-04 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've heard of a performance version lasting only 1'37''08''' : it's short, but it was to fit the Artist's Goal to be in Harmony with the Golden Number (and the Great Ruler/Architect of the Universe as well) : 1.618 * 60 = 97.08'' :) I'm really longing for new Abc International softwares : abc2ser

[abcusers] RE : Sequencing question

2002-07-04 Thread Forgeot Eric
to answer your question about sequencing, you can use unstandardized coding !D.C.! and !Fine! : it works well with abc2midi and abcm2ps. Your tunes will be then : X: 1 T:Mike Hoban's Air M:3/4 L:1/4 Q:120 C:Mike Hoban R:Air K:ADor K:G A/2B/2 | c2A | B>AG | A>B A/2G/2 | E2 A/2B/2 | c2A | BAG | G/2

[abcusers] re : RE: Intergalactic naming conventions

2002-06-30 Thread Forgeot Eric
>| Lewes, East Sussex, England. Take a look at=20 >| http://whatson.brighton.co.uk/folk/. ... >The URL worked, but there were no clues there about which planet it >might be on. try to do a WHOIS on it, a DNSLOOKUP, a TRACEROUTE, or even a FINDPLANET and you'll probably find it. > Finally a

[abcusers] Muse

2002-06-27 Thread Forgeot Eric
>And incidentally, was Muse one of the programs that you tried? Yes, the first programs I tried when I first heard of abc (when I discovered internet as well) were Muse and Abc2win. To be honest, I was first reluctant to Muse because of the drawing of the notes. But I tried it anyway and find

[abcusers] modes (again)

2002-06-27 Thread Forgeot Eric
>| ... It was already too late to change when I first mentioned it. Since it's not possible to add a new field dedicated to mode, I thought it was possible to write 2 K: fields in a tune, if necessary : the first one for the signature, and the second one to *precise* the mode used, so clever app

[abcusers] RE : Re : Renaissance fonts and Abc

2002-06-24 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Great work, Eric. Any chance of a Mac version? I used to have a program >for porting TrueType fonts between MAc and Windows, but it seems I've >mislaid it. as far as this font is finished, it will be available for everyone interessed. Pfaedit allow to export to postscript binary for mac so it's

[abcusers] Modes (and iabc & skink)

2002-06-24 Thread Forgeot Eric
>> Iabc doesn't understand the K:Am >That's completely unacceptable; the program should never have been >released in that state. It's not very kind for the author. I think it have to : it's good to see a new application. And as far as I'm concerned, I've never used modes in the K: fields but onl

[abcusers] Renaissance fonts and Abc

2002-06-23 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've begun to make a true type font for renaissance music, and I hope to adapt it soon for Abcm2ps, or other applications. It can be useful to recreate historical manuscripts, like the Playford one and those of the Village Music Project. The problem is that I can't extract fonts used by abcm2ps

[abcusers] re : Broken rhythms / triplet rhythms

2002-06-22 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Here's your example with "general tuplets" thank you very much Frank ! I didn't know this feature because it's not in the abc-draft 1.7.6 but in the standard-propose.txt so I missed it. It's not really quicker to write than my notation with slurs (sorry, ties... ;) ) but it had the advantage to

[abcusers] iabc, and features expected in softwares in general

2002-06-21 Thread Forgeot Eric
I've downloaded the recent softwares annonced on the list. For iabc, the display is really better than previous version (even if it's not at the level of postscript application) and it looks promising. But there is still some limitations. Here is what a "normal" user can expect from a software (e

[abcusers] Broken rhythms / triplet rhythms

2002-06-21 Thread Forgeot Eric
The convention for writing broken rhythms like A3/ A/ is A>A Is it possible to find a way of writing more friendly this sort of notation : (3A-AA ? I don't know if it's common in music but I've several medieval / trad. tunes which are written or played such. For abc2midi there is the notation %%MI

[abcusers] antialiasing and test on ps files

2002-06-14 Thread Forgeot Eric
>pages because the file sizes are much larger and the download times >that much longer, and because the results on-screen are unpredictable. I don't really agree, even if you're right in some extends : A gif file (I mean a partition) that looks cool on a browser with 16 colours is ci. 9 ko. The s

[abcusers] re : page layout in abcm2ps

2002-06-08 Thread Forgeot Eric
>I decided I wanted to create an efficient layout using the whole page >(A4) in abcm2ps, but there are some things I just can't figure out. The >fact that my printer is dead doesn't make it easier...> > >I used to have > > pageheight27.94cm > pagewidth 21.59cm > scale 0.65 > to

[abcusers] re : new version of Five Line Skink

2002-06-08 Thread Forgeot Eric
>Any interest in having Skink as a 'front end' for a command-line tool? in other >words, use Skink to enter, proof read and proof-listen, and then invoke abcxxps >for final output? yes, why not ? It's a good idea. Even if I can use runabc.tcl for this the ability for Skink as proof read and list

[abcusers] multivoice and multiparts

2002-06-05 Thread Forgeot Eric
Could it be possible to have a mix of the multivoice and parts features ? I enjoy the possibility in musical programs like trackers to made on one side all the musical part, and in an other how they play together : I would be usefull in abc for complex musical parts X:1 T:multivoice and multipar

[abcusers] RE : Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Forgeot Eric
>I have downloaded various things and used abc2Win and whatever behind the scenes tool that >runs on one of the sites to create printable sheet music. The minor complaint that I have >is that the measures seem to be awefully cramped together. try using a program supporting postscript, like abc2p

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