Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Does Java Access Bridge Work in 3.5.4?

2012-06-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Hello David, Another user was having issues with Java Access Bridge version 2.0.1 and version 2.0.2 and also with NVDA The Bugzilla report 46114 that you submitted appeared to be the most on topic but did not mention a resolution or workaround, so it was reopened. That is why you received rec

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Does Java Access Bridge Work in 3.5.4?

2012-06-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Thanks for the JWin tip and for checking your JAB 2.0.2 function in LO 3.5.4 Jamal Mazrui's JWin scripted installation ( http://empowermentzone.com/JWin.htm ) installs the correct Oracle provided DLL's and the JAB Jar files. But JWin does nothing different than Oracle's manual installat

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Bug Confirmation

2012-08-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
Looks to be "not a bug". Confusion of features provided by Windows accessibility (MSAA) and what Java Access Bridge and LO Accessibility Tools provide. Full screen magnification, or a Lens function are not Libre Office AT capabilities. Gnopernicus in Linux and ZoomText in Windows, or native

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libo 3.6 Broken with Screen readers

2012-08-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Seems we've been here before. Java Access Bridge and LibreOffice Accessability Tools absolutely ARE functional with the LibreOffice 3.6.0 builds. But it requires your Java runtime environments be properly configured. Since you've upgraded, did you remove (rename) your per user LibreOf

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libo 3.6 Broken with Screen readers

2012-08-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Seems we've been here before. Java Access Bridge and LibreOffice Accessability Tools absolutely ARE functional with the LibreOffice 3.6.0 builds. But it requires your Java runtime environments be properly configured. Since you've upgraded, did you remove (rename) your per user LibreOf

[libreoffice-accessibility] wiki.documentfoundation.org - Vote_for_Enhancement: Implement the IAccessible2 accessibility API

2012-09-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
Folks, I've placed Bug 39956 - Implement the IAccessible2 accessibility API onto the Document Foundation Vote for Enhancements wiki found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement Most folks would be surprised to find just how spotty and incomplete Accessibility and Assist

[libreoffice-accessibility] wiki.documentfoundation.org - Vote_for_Enhancement: Implement the IAccessible2 accessibility API

2012-09-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
Folks, I've placed Bug 39956 - Implement the IAccessible2 accessibility API onto the Document Foundation Vote for Enhancements wiki found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement Most folks would be surprised to find just how spotty and incomplete Accessibility and Assistiv

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] wiki.documentfoundation.org -Vote_for_Enhancement: Implement the IAccessible2 accessibility API

2012-09-04 Thread V Stuart Foote
Japp, Since it is a Wiki, it is editable by all. But you'll need to establish an individual account with the Document Foundation web site and log-in. Once you log-in you are able to edit. On the right hand side of the screen there will be an [edit] tab for each section of the Wiki. Sele

[libreoffice-accessibility] Java Accessibility Bridge - JRE support Wiki

2012-09-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
I've revised the https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Java Wiki post on JRE 1.6.u35 and JRE 1.7u7 and Java Access Bridge configuration. My one continuing suggestion--have a single 32-bit JRE (1.6 or 1.7) configured for use with LibreOffice, doesn't matter too much which branch--but just one.

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Java Accessibility Bridge - JREsupport Wiki

2012-09-11 Thread V Stuart Foote
Thanks Tom, Yes I noticed that, so I'd also inserted a link to it on the FAQ - General - Installation / Updates page (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq) titled "How do I configure an Oracle JRE and "Java Accessibility Bridge" for use of Assistive Technologies in Windows?" Maybe not the e

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-05 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Load order is important as you have a lot of moving part with JRE, JAB, NVDA and LibreOffice. I have posted up the FAQ Wiki https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Java, others are welcome to refine and expand those details. But my suggestion for you now is to uninstall LibreOffice, NVDA

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
y. Stuart From: Kevin Cussick [mailto:the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com] Sent: Sat 10/6/2012 1:46 PM To: V Stuart Foote Cc: David Goldfield; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my J

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-07 Thread V Stuart Foote
oject will pipe in with more precise explanation of dependencies if I am mistaken. The portable version may work, I've not tried. Stuart From: Kevin Cussick [mailto:the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com] Sent: Sun 10/7/2012 3:44 PM To: V Stuart Foote

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

2012-10-07 Thread V Stuart Foote
e able to read or navigate text within the components. Stuart From: Kevin Cussick [mailto:the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com] Sent: Sun 10/7/2012 5:47 PM To: Tom Davies Cc: V Stuart Foote; Kevin Cussick; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [li

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE

2012-10-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
is not meeting its AT functional goals. From: David Goldfield [mailto:dgold...@asb.org] Sent: Tue 10/9/2012 7:44 AM To: V Stuart Foote Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE Hello. I uninstalled the components in the order in which you suggest

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE

2012-10-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
-Original Message- From: David Goldfield [mailto:dgold...@asb.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:41 AM To: V Stuart Foote Cc: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE Hello, Stuart. The last time I work

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE

2012-10-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
t 3277 FAX:  215-922-0692 mailto:dgold...@asb.org http://www.asb.org Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired population since 1874.   -Original Message- From: V Stuart Foote [mailto:vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 0

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE

2012-10-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, OK, that's what I suspected would be the case. The 32-bit JRE is installed to C:\Program Files\Java\jre7 (or Program Files (x86) on 64-bit). At the end of the installation, a copy of java.exe, javaw.exe and javaws.exe are placed into C:\Windows\system32 (or C:\Windows\SysWOW64 on 64-bit,

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with myJRE

2012-10-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
the OK button and to save. Then exit the rest of the System Properties GUIs. =-=-= Stuart From: David Goldfield [mailto:dgold...@asb.org] Sent: Wed 10/10/2012 8:33 AM To: V Stuart Foote Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice wi

[libreoffice-accessibility] Reality Check - Windows Java Accessibility API non-functional for ALL LibreOffice 3.6.x releases to date

2012-10-14 Thread V Stuart Foote
LibreOffice versions 3.6.0 and later have not correctly implemented the Java Access Bridge (JAB) modules used to expose the Java Accessibility API roles for Windows users. It took me a little while to work out the testing methods, but the Oracle test utilities JavaFerret-32 and JavaMonkey-32 s

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Reality Check - Windows Java Accessibility API non-functional for ALL LibreOffice 3.6.x releases to date

2012-10-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
Developers identified a major component of the Java Accessibility - JAB code that got dropped during restructuring of source build process. A patch for fdo#53474 is being tested and will for certain be included the 3.6.4 release. I have ask

[libreoffice-accessibility] Java Accessibility restored to LOdev 3.6 development builds, on hold for LibO 3.6.4

2012-10-26 Thread V Stuart Foote
The developers have resolved the LibO source code issue for Assistive Technologies for Windows builds using Java Accessibility API and the Java Access Bridge mappings. Unfortunately, not quite in time for the LibO 3.6.3 release that is now building from the rc2 code base for a publish target Oct

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Java Accessibility restored to LOdev 3.6 development builds, on hold for LibO 3.6.4

2012-10-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
boxes beyond what Microsoft MSAA or UI provides. If you can get someone to look over your shoulder- for just a moment-you'll have a much better go at it. Stuart From: Kevin Cussick [mailto:the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thu 9

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Java Accessibility restored to LOdev3.6 development builds, on hold for LibO 3.6.4

2012-10-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
jaccess.jar program archives reside as JAR files. If on 64-bit Windows, the path for JAVA_HOME= would be "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7", and the entry in the PATH would be ";%JAVA_HOME%\bin" Similar adjustment for CLASSPATH if you define that. Stuart ______

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Java Accessibility restored to LOdev3.6 development builds, on hold for LibO 3.6.4

2012-10-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
Sorry, Actually, that CLASSPATH, if set, would more correctly be: CLASSPATH = ".;C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\lib\ext" The initial default path for user class objects should be the current directory, so it requires the preceding period in ".;" when it is defined. Details for the curious at h

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest LibreOffice and Java access Bridge

2012-12-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Yes the dev's have restored ( ref fdo#53474 ) Java Access Bridge support between UNO Accessibility API and Java Accessibility. Unfortunately the "Support assistive technology" check box during installation ( fdo#39833

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest LibreOffice and Java access Bridge

2012-12-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
Should have included a second Bugzilla report ( fdo#56704 ) that is related. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-Latest-LibreOffice-and-Java-access-Bridge-tp4022968p4022988.html Se

RE: off-list wb!! Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest LibreOffice and Java access Bridge

2012-12-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
d since it is the framework for ALL LibreOffice Accessibility the development could be spread across a broader pool of developers and done correctly. Stuart From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:29 AM To: V Stu

RE: off-list wb!! Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest LibreOffice and Java access Bridge

2012-12-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
From: Christophe Strobbe [mailto:stro...@hdm-stuttgart.de] >Am Do, 6.12.2012, 19:18 schrieb V Stuart Foote: >> Unfortunately, the winaccessibility IAccessible2 implementation of the >> IBM Symphony contribution (or the rest of Symphony base line) did not >> get picked up

[libreoffice-accessibility] Wiki updates - a11y & Java Accessibility for Windows users - Wiki

2012-12-07 Thread V Stuart Foote
Have posted some Wiki updates to the a11y & Java windows accessibility roles FAQ. The Wiki changes address the accesibility support now restored in the LibreOffice 3.6.4 and 4.0 development builds, and cleanup some of the text related to configuring Java based accesibility on 3.5.7 builds. http

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

2012-12-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
Simon, Everything with Java Accessibility for the 4.0beta1 Windows build is working correctly--to the extent that Java Access Bridge mappings allow and slow JRE performance allows. But, I have found installation is more consistent if you first remove per-user LibreOffice configurations (both L

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

2012-12-11 Thread V Stuart Foote
Simon, Good that you now have working Accessibility with LibreOffice Assistive Technology tools. But as you've now experienced for Windows users there are warts between what is implemented in the UNO Accessibility API (UAA) and what is passed to Java Accessibility API (JAA) via the Java Access B

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

2012-12-29 Thread V Stuart Foote
Simon, There appears to be a change in the JRE 1.7 and JAB 2.0.3 that is reducing the fidelity of the Java Accessibility API rendering of both LibreOffice and OpenOffice. This is affecting both NVDA and Jaws screen readers. I've been unable to find any Oracle documentation on API changes from th

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

2012-12-29 Thread V Stuart Foote
use with JRE 1.7 and a more current HSQLDB build. Stuart From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:45 AM To: us...@global.libreoffice.org Cc: V Stuart Foote Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibil

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

2013-01-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
Submitted fdo#58995 -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58995 – Apparent changes in Java SE JRE 1.7 are impacting fidelity of Java Access Bridge (JAB) v2.0.3 delivered UNO Accessibility API roles for AT users on Windows OS. The JREs 1.7 > u6 are activating the JAB, and do provide AT

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Priorities List update and need help

2013-01-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom, and other Accessibility advocates... Thanks, but I view my personal role as QA and have really only had to focus on the Windows & Java Accessibility Bridge side because of the exceptional QA and development work being done by Roman Eisele with the OSX Apple Accessibility API, and by Joanma

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice accessibility wish list

2013-02-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
Fernando, Great idea and yes there needs to be some rational prioritization of what work on Accessibility and AT gets done either by volunteer efforts or through grant and contract funding. But, I think that it is daunting to look at a listing of Bugzilla reporting and cull out what are the most

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Sounds have been removed from LibO

2013-02-24 Thread V Stuart Foote
I don't believe the system::beep was (or should have been used) to provide any substantive feedback for use in Assistive Technology (AT). For consistency, believe all feedback, input, and alert aids intended for AT must be correctly handled with an UNO AAPI XAccessible ALERT AccessibleRole even

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] bug 50926

2013-02-26 Thread V Stuart Foote
fdo bug 50926 and bug 56031 have been patched. Unfortunately, not quite in time for the pending 4.0.1 release. The patched version currently available for verification and early use in current Tinderbox builds of Master and 4.0.2--otherwise

[libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager - fdo#61390

2013-03-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
This has been filed as LibreOffice bug fdo#61390 - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61390 and the DEVs of template manager notified. Stuart From: ktc [r...@c-net.us] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 9:38 AM To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.

[libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager - fdo#61390

2013-03-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
fdo#61468 was added to mab 4.0, but it needed to be combined with fdo#61389. So used the earlier report on the MAB list. Cross posting this to the UX list because while the the new (at 4.0.0) Template Manager is a a really great feature, it somehow made it through development and QA deficient i

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager - fdo#61390

2013-03-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
of course that fdo#61389 was a typo for fdo#61390... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-keyboard-accessibility-of-new-template-manager-fdo-61390-tp4041168p4041177.html Sent from the Accessibility mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -

RE: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager - fdo#61390

2013-03-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
From: Markus Mohrhard [markus.mohrh...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 3:13 AM >Thanks a lot for your effort rising awareness of these problems. If >you think it is a general problem that we are not paying enough >attention on accessibility support in new dialogs it would be nice if >

[libreoffice-accessibility] Possilbe UNO Accessibility API - Java Access Bridge issue in current build of Master while using NVDA for AT

2013-04-18 Thread V Stuart Foote
On Windows 7 SP1 64-bit JRE 1.6.45 JAB 2.0.2 Bumped into a an issue with Java Access Bridge and LibreOffice today's Master daily build. When running the NVDA 2012.3.1 AT screen reader, a long stable test document is crashing LibreOffice 4.1 alpha from Master when accessed with NVDA AT in use.

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Possilbe UNO Accessibility API - Java Access Bridge issue in current build of Master while using NVDA for AT

2013-04-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
So is not an issue with accessibility API and Java Access Bridge - problem confirmed to be issue of FDO#63680 against LibreOffice 4.1.0 alpha build TB 6 build on 2013-04-18 where Writer is crashing. Not JAB and UAA related as issue occurs ev

[libreoffice-accessibility] Possilbe UNO Accessibility API -Java Access Bridge issue in current build of Master while using NVDA for AT

2013-04-23 Thread V Stuart Foote
t have been confused and would benefit from an explanation. From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:05 AM To: V Stuart Foote Subject: off-list 4.0.1 alpha? Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Possilbe UNO Accessibility API - Java Ac

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-05 Thread V Stuart Foote
Florian, Happy to moderate this list. Stuart -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-Seeking-for-list-moderators-tp4053726p4053961.html Sent from the Accessibility mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: access

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice writer crash - accessibility-related?

2013-05-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jason, Are you able to submit a Bugzilla report with full details of your system? I don't know if it specific an Accessibility related to Orca use, or recent work on GTK+ in general. I will try to test from a Fedora GNOME 3 DE with ORCA running to see if I am similarly affected. But someone wit

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice writer crash - accessibility-related?

2013-05-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jason, Fired up Fedora 18, 32-bit kernel 3.8.11-200.fc18.i686 with orca-3.6.3-1.fc18.i686 active under GNOME 3.6.x DE With LibreOffice Version 4.0.3.3 (Build ID: 0eaa50a932c8f2199a615e1eb30f7ac74279539) I had no issue in creating and saving document using menu Save as, or s, and with or without O

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Bug 65911 - FORMATTING: Accessibility Problem

2013-06-18 Thread V Stuart Foote
Done, not really a bug. So, have adjusted title marked it as a potential UX enhancement. Issue is now titled -- "Keyboard accelerator & shortcut assignments -- review divergence from MS Word for reasonable common use cases [accessibility]" Stuart -- View this message in context: http://nab

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 test builds available

2013-06-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom, Administrative /A, aka Server install goes on without issue and runs just fine along side dozens of other earlier 4.1.0 dev installs, as well as a slate of builds against master. The Java Access Bridge 2.02 based accessibility running JRE 1.6u45 continues to render UAA well for AT needs.

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 test builds available

2013-06-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
Sorry, for benefit of other readers, I should also have referenced the /A Administrative install "Installing several versions of LibreOffice "instructions for Windows which remain valid, if a little dated. Have a read, pay at

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 test builds available

2013-06-21 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom, Tom wrote > Hi :) > It is just that there appears to be a warning in the announcement > "NOTE: This build is in a release configuration and _will_ replace your > existing LibreOffice install on Windows. " > It's about 75% of the way down the announcement and not at all obvious > which is why

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 test builds available

2013-06-21 Thread V Stuart Foote
V Stuart Foote wrote > 2) the resulting Microsoft Installer package sets a configuration varaible > WRITEREGISTRY to true, and that results in program details being recorded > into the Windows Registry database, overwriting any existing settings. Sorry the correct msiexec.exe com

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] ot just wonder if anyone can tell me the stat of the ia2 branch in open office.

2013-07-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
Hi Kevin, The ia2 branch developing IAccessible2 is over on the Apache OpenOffice side. Only at mid-stage beta testing of interface and instrumenting components. IAccessible2 support will not be released until the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 timeframe--call it 6 - 8 months. And, no work thus far on i

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] ot just wonder if anyone can tell me the stat of the ia2 branch in open office.

2013-07-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
Kevin, No changes posted to the ia2 branch source code since the May 18th revision 1484083 The buildbot for the ia2 branch has recently been offline, but even if it were running it would be building the same old version as has been available intermittently since May 18th. If you did not pull and

[libreoffice-accessibility] Java JRE 7 based Java Access Bridge is now functional

2013-07-14 Thread V Stuart Foote
Folks, The Java Access Bridge v2.0.3 incorporated into Java 7 runtimes since JRE 1.7u6 will now work with the Java Accessibility API on Windows to provide LibreOffice (and Apache OpenOffice) support using Assistive Technologies like JAWS or NVDA. LibreOffice users on Windows OSs, needing access

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Improvements to Mac Accessibility

2013-08-04 Thread V Stuart Foote
Yes, indeed! A great welcome to Boris Dušek who has dived in and is unwinding some of the long standing NSAccessibility bridge issues supporting the OSX builds. Stuart -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-Improvements-to-Mac-Acces

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libo 4.0.5 and Accessibility/Follow-up

2013-08-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, David Goldfield wrote > ...does installing Java via the java.com installer allow Libo to work with > NVDA? > > Perhaps the Libreoffice developers could find out what GW Micro's > installer is doing and replicate this behavior when the user enables the > assistive technology support check

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libo 4.0.5 and Accessibility/Follow-up

2013-08-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
file that has this text: ===start=== Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LibreOffice\Accessibility\AtToolSupport] "SupportAssistiveTechnology"="true" ===end=== Stuart > -Original Message- > From: David Goldfield [mailto:dgold...@a

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libo 4.0.5 and Accessibility/Follow-up

2013-08-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Alex Unfortunately, it is what we have to work with. One of the devs, Andras Timar put together the check box feature on the Windows installer, in response to FDO Bugzilla enhancement 39833 - Add "Support assistive technology tools" option to installation process [accessibility] found

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice 4.1.2 with NVDA/Issues with using pgup and pgdn Keys within a Document

2013-10-05 Thread V Stuart Foote
@David, Niklas If while working in an open document you loose your place, believe you can always use the key to safely cycle back through the main menus to your location in the open document--NVDA will announce "Document View Document editable". And you should be located back at the last cursor

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice 4.1.2 with NVDA/Issues with using pgup and pgdn Keys within a Document

2013-10-07 Thread V Stuart Foote
Niklas, No, I got that wrong. Sorry! It is not completely under ALv2, some key code is still LPGLv3. Most of the AOO ia2 branch has ALv2 license applied, but some of the key IAccessibile2 code, e.g. the winaccessibility directory, bears LPGLv3 license (with an IBM copyright). Makes sense as the

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] NVDA and Libreoffice

2014-01-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
Robert, The master build (currently LODev4.3.0alpha+) has dropped JAB completely and implements IAccessible2, and is available in most recent form here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@39/current/ The LibreOffice 4.2.0 RC2 retains JAB (and its activation methods), and i

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] NVDA and Libreoffice

2014-01-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Those two folders are identical, one is simply a Linux static link to the other and assigned a name format that was needed by a user friendly GUI installer for /A administrative in "parallel" installations (where no Windows registry values are written but the install is mostly functiona

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: NVDA and Libreoffice

2014-01-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
>From links here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ All three Windows Tindebox -- TB39, TB42 and TB47 are building nightlys of theLibreOffice master branch (4.3.0). And all have removed JAB bridge in favor of an IAccessible2 based code. They all will activate the IA2 bridge when

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] High contrast bug?

2014-01-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
Robert, Yes the program is not handling correctly. With an Operating System High Contrast mode selected, and the check boxes on Tools --> Options --> Accessibility "Options for high contrast appearance" e.g. the --Automatically detect high contrast mode of operating system-- , --Use a

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] High contrast bug?

2014-01-16 Thread V Stuart Foote
This A11Y accessibility issue was already open as bug 71511 . -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-Icons-for-Zoom-optimal-tp4092015p4092591.html Sent from the Accessibility mailing

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] High contrast bug?

2014-01-18 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Robert, Ref bug 71511 The A11Y high contrast background and foreground color settings to match operating system HC settings issue has been corrected in the daily builds of master and is targeted for release 4.3.0. It may be incorporated i

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Window-eyes 8.4 and Writer 4.2 RC2

2014-01-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, *, Not isolated to Windows Eyes, NVDA just was a bit more tolerant. We had a bit of an issue with IAccessible2 code in the RC1, RC2 and RC3 builds of LibreOffce 4.2.0. Also was affecting the Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 builds. If curious see fdo#73464

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice 4.2 and Window-eyes 8.4

2014-01-31 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Please post up the version of LibreOffice you are testing with. Found from the Help --> About LibreOffice panel, where you can select and copy the Version and Build ID details. The 4.2.0 release has these values: Version: 4.2.0.4 Build ID: 05dceb5d363845f2cf968344d7adab8dcfb2ba71 Thank

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice 4.2 and Window-eyes 8.4

2014-01-31 Thread V Stuart Foote
David responded back in PM that he had the Final release of 4.2.0 with Build ID: 05dceb5d363845f2cf968344d7adab8dcfb2ba71 So looks to be an issue. Will try to obtain a copy of Windows Eyes to test with and see if I can debug. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundatio

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice 4.2 and Window-eyes 8.4

2014-02-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
Folks, Downloaded and registered the GW Micro Windows Eyes 8.4 (WindowEyesForOfficeEnglish8400.exe) Testing with LibreOffice 4.2.0 final release Version: 4.2.0.4 Build ID: 05dceb5d363845f2cf968344d7adab8dcfb2ba71 When run with the JRE and Java Access Bridge enabled there is reasonable fidelit

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice 4.2 and Window-eyes 8.4

2014-02-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Marco, *, Thanks. Heard back from GW Micro, they said use a Java JRE and JAB. Mentioned that JAB support was being dropped for both projects. Response was a non-committal, that they would "pass this on to our developers for investigation". >From: Marco Zehe >Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Changes in the LO 4.3-dev start screen, intentilnal or bug?

2014-02-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Marco, Marco Zehe wrote > While testing the latest 4.3-dev build for a change related to bug > 74284, I noticed that the following Option pane from LibreOffice 4.2.0 > is no longer present in LibreOffice 4.3.0-dev, even from before the > mentioned commit: > > Developer info for navigator object:

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Changes in the LO 4.3-dev start screen, intentilnal or bug?

2014-02-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
Marco replied to my question in PM, useful info. I'd read the NVDA manuals but it didn't click to expose parent/child relations like this... very helpful as always following in AccProbe is very tedious. Thanks! > Yes, you can use the Object Navigation commands to traverse up and down > the obj

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libo 4.0.5 and Accessibility/Follow-up

2014-02-27 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Kevin, >From: Kevin Cussick >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:31 AM > >I can't get open office ia2 latest snaps to install any more! and can't >get lo master to install what is wrong here is the error I am getting. >with lo. > >Error 1303.The installer has insufficient privileges to access t

FW: [NVDA] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libo 4.0.5 and Accessibility/Follow-up

2014-02-27 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Kevin, Glad you got it sorted, not the first time I've forgotten to ask about any changes in AntiMalware posture. Some AV solutions are more agressive than others at "monitoring" and "preventing" changes. Last major go round was with the offerings from Avast AVG, guess the Internet Security

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] A11y status of libreoffice

2014-03-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Jean-Phillippe, For the 4.2 release, the LibreOffice ESC elected to keep support of JRE Java Accessibility API using the Java Access Bridge. The IAccessible2 based Assistive Technology support is activated from Tools --> Options --> Advanced Optional (unstable) options 'Enable experimental

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Using LibreOffice 4.2.5 with Screen Readers

2014-06-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Seem like post install, you have neither enabled JAB based AT, nor IAccessible2 support. While we'd pushed for it, IAccessible2 as outright replacement for JAB did not make the 4.2 release. It did make it for the 4.3 branch release. At this point, I would suggest you simply skip the 4.2

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] libraoffice on windows 8.1

2014-06-27 Thread V Stuart Foote
Top posting answer to Don, Please take a moment and post up the actual version of LibreOffice, or LibreOffice Development you are working with. Found from the Main menu bar, Help about panel. Alt+F -- position to File on the main menu -- close the File menu Alt+H -- position to the He

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] libraoffice on windows 8.1

2014-06-27 Thread V Stuart Foote
. When installed, version 4.3.x forward will activate IAccessible2 based AT when an AT (JAWS for example) is detected in use. Stuart > -Original Message- > From: Don Raikes [mailto:don.rai...@oracle.com] > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 2:31 PM > To: V Stuart Foote > Subject: R

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] libraoffice on windows 8.1

2014-06-27 Thread V Stuart Foote
related issues. Stuart > -Original Message- > From: Don Raikes [mailto:don.rai...@oracle.com] > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 4:57 PM > To: V Stuart Foote > Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] libraoffice on windows 8.1 > > Thanks much better. > > I did

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Say all doesn't work with NVDA

2014-06-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
Top posting answer to Aron, I've noticed the effect on occasion with NVDA 2013.3 and earlier, but seems pretty stable on 2014.2 for LibreOffice builds 4.2.0.4 through latest development builds of 4.4.0alpha We will assume that you are using the correct "say all" --NVDA+DownArrow (desktop) or

RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Removing commands from formatting menu

2014-07-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom, You missed the point, admittedly subtle. David was responding to Mirek's request for help with a Design team issue. Thank you David, by the way for the offer. David does not need the aggravation of following the Design or Marketing mail lists. Stuart __

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice 4.3 and Calc with NVDA

2014-07-31 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, David Goldfield wrote > What is very odd is that spreadsheet navigation works perfectly with NVDA > with OpenOffice and I'm under the impression that OO and LO are using the > same Iaccessible2 code. Wrong assumption, so while the IAccessible2 (v 1.3) and the same native Windows bridge is

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice 4.3 and Calc with NVDA

2014-07-31 Thread V Stuart Foote
For anyone following along, fyi... The Windows Bug report is fdo#81098 and the Linux Bug report is fdo#81264 , but they will probably be merged. Stuart -- View this message in conte

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Calc and Accessibility

2014-10-14 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, Nope, still broken. However remains easily worked around with an change to formula bar and to return to spreadsheet table and regain focus for the cell. After that, should have AccEvent announcement of cursor driven movement. However, the more problematic is that the table cell acces

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Calc and Accessibility

2014-10-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
Several issues open in fdo Bugzilla for tracking these... Bug 74441 - [Win Accessibility] Don't expose 0 as the value for each empty cell in Calc Bug 81112 - Accessible events when navigating Calc cells containing text strings are not correct

[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LibreOffice 4.4.o Dev

2014-11-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
ere: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@39/current/ Stuart San Antonio, Texas From: Carlos Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:17 PM To: V Stuart Foote Subject: LibreOffice 4.4.o Dev Hello! I have started to play around with the 4.4.0 version

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libo 4.3.4.1/We're Cooking

2014-11-18 Thread V Stuart Foote
Top posting reply to Robert K. For Windows builds, LibreOffice does not package as .EXE files, they are Microsoft Installer pacages .MSI Regards using the Ninite services: according to the ninite news -- https://ninite.com/news shows that they picked up 4.3.4 release. LibreOffice updated to 4

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Display bindings

2014-12-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
No, there is no bug--either in NVDA or LibreOffice In NVDA 2014.4 open the Preferences --> Object presentation dialog, and check on the "Report object shortcut keys" The majority of menu items have "accelerators" aka "short-cut keys" assigned. They are all exposed to Assistive Technology, and

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Display bindings

2014-12-12 Thread V Stuart Foote
Niklas, Sure, we could make a distinction as Microsoft does, between the "access key" and a "keyboard accelerator/shortcut-key". But, as you know the majority of AT support in OOo and derivatives like LibreOffice is structured around the accessibleRole assigned to an object--and from that comes

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Display bindings

2014-12-12 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Tom, *, No, you're asking the right question. But you do need to look under the bonnet from time to time. Within the LibreOffice code there are two broad classes of keyboard accelerators. One is associated with the .uno action associated with each object in the user interface. The other are

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Display bindings

2015-01-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
Nicklas, *, On Windows 7 sp1, 64-bit with en-US and a build of current master Version: 4.5.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 07e84cae983c08afdba03018413a19d01abb3006 TinderBox: Win-x86@62-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-01-19_06:15:38 Locale: en_US It is great! The keyboard shortcuts and accelerators are bot

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Trying to subscribe

2015-02-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Hi David, The email address to use is: accessibility plusSign subscribe @ global.libreoffice.org Here is the full string... accessibility+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org Copy and paste it into the address of a new message, no need for subject of text. That should get you added--and allow y

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Question/Help Tips in Pull-down Menus

2015-03-24 Thread V Stuart Foote
Hi David, Please check that you have the "Extended tips" check-box selected. Tools -> Options -> General in the Help section. A check-box for "Tips" on by default, and a second check-box "Extended tips" is off by default. Select that active, and you should have more complete descriptions pulle

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Question/Help Tips in Pull-down Menus

2015-03-24 Thread V Stuart Foote
hat you recall a more complete help sounding for? Let me know and I can check for it. Stuart From: David Goldfield Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:51 AM To: V Stuart Foote Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Question/Help Tips in Pull-down Menus H

[libreoffice-accessibility] tdf bug 91739 - nvda can not read documents from top to bottom -- SayAll

2015-05-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
Just a heads up on opening of issue tdf#91739 -- nvda can not read documents from top to bottom -- i.e. using the NVDA SayAll feature. This is already NVDA ticket 4119 but I know flaky

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Screen reader does not read impress presentations

2015-11-04 Thread V Stuart Foote
Alberto-2 wrote > Hi all, and used LibreOffice in its latest version and me and noticed > that my NVDA screen reader reads not impress presentations. Is it > possible to add support for reading the presentations with this screen > reader? Or is it possible to implement some method to read them?

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