[AI] Braille press in MP and contact details of Ms. Nidhi Arora? (Esha / similar foundation name)

[Amar Jain]

Hi all,

Who does quality braille printing in M.P.?

Also looking for the contact details of Ms. Nidhi Arora (not sure with the 
surname) who runs Esha Foundation (again something similar name). Basically IIM 
background and used to print braille cards and record audio books. I had spoken 
with her in my law college days in 2009 or later so can’t quite recall a lot. 
Contact details off the list please to maintain privacy. Thank you.

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Amar Jain
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Re: [AI] Motor skill development programmes and how to behave less blind than we actually are.

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So proud of you to have at least thought about this-many even don’t care and in some cases there is lack of awareness.Call or ping me on what’s app-9892622230 and let’s do it together. I can certainly help you virtually.Regards,Amar JainSent from my iPhoneOn 4 Apr 2024, at 9:03 PM, Saurav Hegde  wrote:Hi mam,A very nicely written mail.I am not exactly ashamed of my so-called vierdness.I, for instance, use screen-readers and I do not feel awkward.In-fact, I love the familiar sound of NVDA starting up, it gives me the independence I want.But, I also think, if it is possible to get more polished, why not do so.That's my preaching done.My question is, any idea about a similar programme available in Pune?Regards,SauravStudent at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, PuneOn Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 1:16 PM  wrote:Hi Saurav,That sounds like the "I want to blend in better" preoccupation that most of us here can relate with - welcome to the club! Think of it like a "when in Rome..." exercise - some things we do just to fit in - it’s better not to bring "normality" (whatever that is) into it. Think of blindness as diversity, as one more valid way of being in the world - it’s not the same as incompetence. Okay, preaching over. On to your concerns:  Fine motor skills: Have you hands-on observed people doing the things you mentioned - opening packets (where and how they grip, what direction they pull, with what amount of force, etc.)? That's one way to learn. If you're worried about making  messes, see if you can fix up fail-safes (like a sheet of newspaper in front of you if you're ripping open packets by hand, or a tray under your teacup to catch spills just in case (it helps keep your mind off the potential disaster). You'll learn quickly enough so you won't need these for very long. Positioning (cutting straight/tilting/straightening something you're holding): When sighted people say these things, they often have an implicit reference in mind - straight in relation to what? When you're talking about a spoon, you want to hold the bowl of your spoon (not the handle) parallel to your plate so whatever is on it stays on. When you're talking about cutting a packet straight, you want to see if you're holding your scissors parallel or perpendicular (whatever way you want to cut) to the edge of the packet. Positioning is generally relative to something, even if it might not be explicitly stated. Figure out a point of reference for whatever you're positioning, and you'll be good to go from there. You could also ask close friends/family to be more explicit about how they'd like you to position things in relation to yourself/to things around you.  Behaviours you feel awkward about: Ask. That's the only way. Ask close friends if you have that kind of comfortable dynamic with them if what you're doing is okay. Reading (fiction) also helps, strangely enough. You tend to pick up things that you otherwise wouldn't pick up on. (it’s best to ask and make sure before you copy gestures though - caution: don't try this at home . Couldn't resist saying that).  Training programs: XRCVC offers Activities of Daily Living (ADL) training if I'm not mistaken, you could get in contact with someone there to see if something can be worked out.  Hope this helps.Warmly,Aparna  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of Saurav HegdeSent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 11:12 AMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: [AI] Motor skill development programmes and how to behave less blind than we actually are. Hi to the group,Hope this mail finds everyone in great spirits.To give some context, I am totally blind from birth.I have not seen anything except for lights, colours and shapes at a very close proximity.I wanted to ask, how can we develop our finger motor skills like moving our fingers smoothly and fluidly or methodically opening a packet or cutting straight using scissors.Are there good training programmes to teach you such skills?The next part of my subject line, I have noticed blind people including me tend to do some weird things like, some blind people grip someone too tightly which is not required.I have been pointed out by trusted and caring family members to move or keep my hands in a weird way.I also tend to grip a spoon either too firmly or too loosely.I also cannot visualise when someone instructs me to hold a particular thing straight or tilt it.My question is, has someone realised this, and how can we optimise ourselves to behave very naturally and in a way, that our disability keeps reducing to be a part of our identity day by day and we become more normal? Regards,SauravStudent at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this 

Re: [AI] YOUTUBE link of Address by Danish Mahajan at Spain Embassy: Investment in Diversity Event

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This one is a must listen everyone.Sent from my iPhoneOn 24 Mar 2024, at 7:39 PM, Radio Udaan  wrote:YOUTUBE link of Address by Danish Mahajan at Spain Embassy: Investment in Diversity Eventhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cmsIj1Ln80



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Re: [AI] Suggest accessible CCTV cameras

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One reasonable option is smart home cameras of MI which is not a CCTV setup but 
a mountable camera with 360 degree rotation and motion detection etc.
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Re: [AI] Today's one day trainning on Accessibility

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Who is organizing?

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Amar Jain

On 18/03/2024 09:25, Ashutosh Singhal wrote:


Only sharing:
Are you interested?? To join the one-day training program on 
"Empowering Inclusion: Accessibility Standards".


Timing: 10.30 AM - 5.00 PM

Please use the Zoom link below to attend the training program.

https://zoom.us/j/92910741485?pwd=ckpsVGFQRjBEWldiWkJTNklYTmo3dz09

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Re: [AI] Suggestions for an accessible refrigerator

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That’s correct and even app features wise there isn’t much that you can operate. Thanks.Sent from my iPhoneOn 17 Mar 2024, at 10:19 PM, Ajay Minocha  wrote:Hi,As far as I checked, its only available in the large capacity models i.e. 500 leters and above.Those are generally pretty huge and don't fit into all places specially the kitchen of a modern age flat.HTH,AjayOn Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 21:59, Ashutosh Singhal  wrote:I read that in Samsung Company they provide Screen Reader support in refrigerator sir. For more information you can inquire from this link: https://www.samsung.com/in/shop-faq/#contact-info. You will get Chat, Email, WhatsApp and Customer Care contact details of Samsung.On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 15:05, turab chimthanawala  wrote:













Hi all,,
I wanted to know are there any models of refrigerators which have specific accessibility features such as being able to be operated using an application like we have smart air-conditioners. 
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Re: [AI] Highlight in adobe acrobat reader

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Nehal-if you are a screen reader user it is not possible to do so unfortunately.We will see some progress soon as the need is felt across the community and external factors will drive Adobe to implement accessibility in near future.Regards,Amar JainSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 8, 2024, at 16:26, nehal jain  wrote:Dear  Access indians,Trust you all are doing great!Could you please help me with this. I am wanting to highlight text  in adobe Acrobat reader.Also,  any guidance material for working  in adobe acrobat reader with screen reader. Would be helpful.Thanks and best regardsNehal Jain 



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Re: [AI] Inaccessible Credit card swipePoint of Sale (POS) machine

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Dear Asif bhaiya-in most of the countries basis my conversation with 
people-additional factor authorization is not required for quite high 
value transactions as well.


And unfortunately there are not many good examples of an accessible 
POS-this requires prototyping. Some companies for their employees and 
one or two otherwise have deployed using Android / IOS capabilities some 
accessible POS.


I know the answer is frustrating but that is where we are. I had done 
this check extensively when we were writing the committee report to see 
if we could provide some recommendations.


But looking at how brilliantly BIS standards are drafted (and you were 
one of the contributors of course amongst others) getting this done is 
not difficult at all.


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 07/03/2024 15:26, 'Mohammed Asif Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia 
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Dear all,

Hope all is well at your end.

Of late; all Point of sale is migrating to touch screen without audio 
feedback.  It is truly frustrating to ask someone else to insert the 
pin.


Just wondering what other community members are doing for inserting 
pin.  What is the best practices in developed countries  for touch 
screen point of Sale?


Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.

Asif

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[AI] Urban Company Puts Accessibility First for Persons with Disabilities in Latest App Update

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Urban Company Puts Accessibility First for Persons with Disabilities in 
Latest App Update


Full press release here: 
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Re: [AI] my experience with Kotak mahindra bank, and special thanks to mr. Dipesh.

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Udit the problem is their highly inaccessible internet and mobile banking. Have they improved?
Get Outlook for iOS
  

 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf of UDIT Pandey Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 8:33 PMTo: 'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia Subject: [AI] my experience with Kotak mahindra bank, and special thanks to mr. Dipesh. hi all,I wanted to share  my experience with Kotak mahindra bank.so, on 13TH sept, 2023, I opened an online account from the  website of Kotak mahindra bank The next, day, a person came from the KYC teem, and told, that, they will do my KYC. But, when he saw that, I am blind, he said that, a separate teem will come and do my KYC. I dint got any response from him since a week. After that, I called him, but, no answer. I complaint to the customer care. Then, he gave me number of  mr. Dipesh. However, in that time of week, someone came and, did my KYC with my signatures and said, it can work. But, It dint worked at all. Then, I had a word with Dipesh sir. He dint knew about the process at all. Because I wanted net banking facility. So, he rote mails to the authorities and, told them that, I can mannage. Then, after 1 week of these mails and other things, I got my account in the starting october. Here, they were not giving me a physical debbit card. But, they instead, issued a virtual debbit card for me. Thats is also OK as, I dint wanted a physical card because, the account is for just spending purpus only. Again, I Would say, that, Dipesh sir helped me a lot. He dint called me to the branch for even a singal time. Insted, he sent someone who took my thumm impretion or the required documents.though, I dint want the physical debbit card but if its possible to get one easily, I would deffitnatly want 1.My branch is panchsheel park, sahibabad. UP area pincode is: 201005.at the end, I would like to thank Dipesh sir. And his team.Virus-free.www.avast.com



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Re: [AI] Department of Financial Services, Ministry of Finance notifies accessibility guidelines for banking sector

[Amar Jain]

  
  
  

Significant breakthrough-Department of Financial Services, Ministry of Finance, Government of India notifies guidelines to make banking more accessible for persons with disabilities on February 2nd, 2024. From the mere reading of this, a lot of suggestions put forth by us have been included by them.Quick analysis: 1. For physical accessibility, Harmonized Guidelines 2021 have been made mandatory. 2. For digital accessibility of websites and apps including PDF, while IS17802 issued by Bureau of Indian Standards has been made mandatory, but in para 6, it is stated for digital accessibility guidelines issued by MEITY may be complied from time to time. In practice, MEITY has not issued any guidelines on accessibility till date. Because even BIS is under Department of Consumer Affairs. 3. On point of sale devices, it is only said to ensure accessibility without any specifics which is a drawback. 4. RBI has been deligated the power to issue instructions on accessibility from time to time. 5. The guidelines are silent on ensuring that EKYC / VKYC services are not denied to persons with disabilities and specific measures to make them accessible are absent.Good beginning but a lot is yet to be done.hashtag#AccessibilityMatters
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 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf of Amar Jain Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:11 PMTo: Accessindia Subject: [AI] Department of Financial Services, Ministry of Finance notifies accessibility guidelines for banking sector 
Please see attached the guidelines on the captioned subject, notified on February 2nd, 2024 by Department of Financial Services, Ministry of Finance, Government of India.

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Re: [AI] Digital Accessibility for Private Indian Companies

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Rule 15 of RPWD Rules 2017 as amended on May 10, 2023.
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 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf of Akashdeep Bansal Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 8:37 AMTo: accessindia Subject: [AI] Digital Accessibility for Private Indian Companies Hello everyone, Does anyone have any document handy which clearly states the following -1. Which digital accessibility guidelines (GIGW/WCAG) applies to Indian private companies for legal compliance?2. Upto which conformance level (A/AA/AAA) they have to fix issues for legal compliance?--Thanks and Regards,Akashdeep BansalFounder & CEO | SaralXFollow us: Website | LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram 



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Re: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible

[Amar Jain]

Shankar-the POC who is working on Zomato accessibility is on leave till 
February first week. We will initiate the conversations to pick up the 
issues once he is back. Thanks.


On 24/01/2024 14:44, Shankar C wrote:

sir, still the zamato app on i o s is not accessible.


On 1/24/24, Prerna Sobti  wrote:
Yes, I have used the services with the help of sighted friends. Happy 
to
know it is accessible now services are completely reliable and 
satisfactory
but disclaimer it depends from location to location as well. I’ve 
tried in
two different locations in Delhi one was super amazing other one was 
okay


Prerna Sobti

On Jan 24, 2024, at 12:59 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 


wrote:

Are the services availed through this app reliable?

On 1/24/24, george.abrah...@gmail.com  
wrote:

Splendid effort and great post.



From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
 On

Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: 23 January 2024 16:19
To: Accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible



Dear all,



From Mission Accessibility, we are happy to share that Urban Company 
has

fixed a lot of accessibility issues on IOS and is working to fix
remaining
ones. Android's accessible version should be out soon as well.



This was perhaps one of our oldest collaboration without any 
financial

benefit to us as an organization and took time for us to be able to
educate
the company on even the very basics of what accessibility is.



It took different approaches for us to get them to achieve this. 
While

Turab
worked hard on sensitizing them, Tanishk, who heads our 
sensitization

and
capacity building vertical now then had joined us as a volunteer who
drafted
a beautiful legal notice which Rahul sent them, and I kept on 
engaging

into
technical discussions with their engineering, products, and customer
success
team. We even did one office visit at our own cost for them last 
year or

so.



Frankly, at one point, nothing was moving ahead. And I was dam
frustrated.
In my mind then, court battle was the only option which I thought 
would

get
us the desired results. But persistence and team effort worked
ultimately.



We are conscious of the fact that we need to closely monitor them 
for

future
updates. But at least it is a good start. And the only reason we 
wanted

to
share all the background with everyone on this list is to convey the
point
that it takes constant pushing and efforts to even get businesses to
take
baby steps. Therefore, when someone feels frustrated that no result 
is
coming, lets channelize that frustration into making one more 
service

provider more usable and accessible instead of being angry!



Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible

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Already sent boss and will be fixed soon :) 
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 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf of Yogesh Chhabra Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 12:25 AMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible Dear amar,I have sent a voice demo of the same version of urben company on your what's app.Regards,Yogesh chhabraOn Wednesday, January 24, 2024, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanic...@gmail.com> wrote:Axis has one of the most godawful mobile apps in terms of
accessibility that I have ever come across. I had written to the
Principal Nodal Officer regarding this. After a few days they got back
that their team is working on ensuring TalkBack accessibility. But
they refused to give any timeline... Don't have much hope from them...

On 1/23/24, bhara...@gmail.com <bhara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could you look into Axis bank's Android app as well? I say Android because,
> I haven't tried their IOS version. Their's is a worst case scenario wherein,
> absolutely nothing, like nothing is provided as an output by talkback once
> in their app.
>
> I also wrote to them on their Facebook page & all I was told  by them in a
> messenger conversation was that, at the moment the Axis bank app is not
> screen reader accessible. As if, I was unaware of this particular fact
> before I spoke to them.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bharat.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessin...@accessindia.org.in> On
> Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 5:11 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible
>
> Great work. Its a very handy platform and fixing it will be of great
> help. Hope the Android version won't take too much time.
>
> On 1/23/24, Amar Jain <amarj...@amarjain.com> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>>  From Mission Accessibility, we are happy to share that Urban Company has
>> fixed a lot of accessibility issues on IOS and is working to fix
>> remaining ones. Android's accessible version should be out soon as well.
>>
>> This was perhaps one of our oldest collaboration without any financial
>> benefit to us as an organization and took time for us to be able to
>> educate the company on even the very basics of what accessibility is.
>>
>> It took different approaches for us to get them to achieve this. While
>> Turab worked hard on sensitizing them, Tanishk, who heads our
>> sensitization and capacity building vertical now then had joined us as a
>> volunteer who drafted a beautiful legal notice which Rahul sent them,
>> and I kept on engaging into technical discussions with their
>> engineering, products, and customer success team. We even did one office
>> visit at our own cost for them last year or so.
>>
>> Frankly, at one point, nothing was moving ahead. And I was dam
>> frustrated. In my mind then, court battle was the only option which I
>> thought would get us the desired results. But persistence and team
>> effort worked ultimately.
>>
>> We are conscious of the fact that we need to closely monitor them for
>> future updates. But at least it is a good start. And the only reason we
>> wanted to share all the background with everyone on this list is to
>> convey the point that it takes constant pushing and efforts to even get
>> businesses to take baby steps. Therefore, when someone feels frustrated
>> that no result is coming, lets channelize that frustration into making
>> one more service provider more usable and accessible instead of being
>> angry!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Amar Jain
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Re: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible

[Amar Jain]

Bharat the only reason I am purposefully not targeting banks / FIIs 
right now because the similar matter is being pursued in Delhi HC.


I am hoping that the outcome of this matter will be a positive one. So 
hopefully in next 2-3 years entire financial sector would have worked on 
accessibility once FinMin / RBI issues appropriate directions-which 
through this matter we are trying to achieve.


Alternatively, we can take up independent banks and other entities 
before CCPD for a faster resolution. If you are willing to be the 
complainant-I will be more than happy to appear / argue as your lawyer. 
I cannot file on my name because I have been part of the committee 
constituted by Delhi HC.


But I would think that let's take that call post February hearing by 
which FinMin would have the last opportunity to file its response. 
Because one of the thing I would like to push for is to get some interim 
directions from the Court around digital accessibility compliance-I am 
yet to discuss with BGFI team and George sir but that's going to be an 
action item I am seriously thinking about.


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 23/01/2024 19:26, bhara...@gmail.com wrote:
Could you look into Axis bank's Android app as well? I say Android 
because, I haven't tried their IOS version. Their's is a worst case 
scenario wherein, absolutely nothing, like nothing is provided as an 
output by talkback once in their app.


I also wrote to them on their Facebook page & all I was told  by them 
in a messenger conversation was that, at the moment the Axis bank app 
is not screen reader accessible. As if, I was unaware of this 
particular fact before I spoke to them.


Thank you,

Bharat.

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 5:11 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible

Great work. Its a very handy platform and fixing it will be of great
help. Hope the Android version won't take too much time.

On 1/23/24, Amar Jain  wrote:

Dear all,

 From Mission Accessibility, we are happy to share that Urban Company 
has

fixed a lot of accessibility issues on IOS and is working to fix
remaining ones. Android's accessible version should be out soon as 
well.


This was perhaps one of our oldest collaboration without any financial
benefit to us as an organization and took time for us to be able to
educate the company on even the very basics of what accessibility is.

It took different approaches for us to get them to achieve this. While
Turab worked hard on sensitizing them, Tanishk, who heads our
sensitization and capacity building vertical now then had joined us as 
a

volunteer who drafted a beautiful legal notice which Rahul sent them,
and I kept on engaging into technical discussions with their
engineering, products, and customer success team. We even did one 
office

visit at our own cost for them last year or so.

Frankly, at one point, nothing was moving ahead. And I was dam
frustrated. In my mind then, court battle was the only option which I
thought would get us the desired results. But persistence and team
effort worked ultimately.

We are conscious of the fact that we need to closely monitor them for
future updates. But at least it is a good start. And the only reason 
we

wanted to share all the background with everyone on this list is to
convey the point that it takes constant pushing and efforts to even 
get
businesses to take baby steps. Therefore, when someone feels 
frustrated

that no result is coming, lets channelize that frustration into making
one more service provider more usable and accessible instead of being
angry!

Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible

[Amar Jain]

Correct version for Urban Company on Android **7.5.37

On 23/01/2024 17:43, Amar Jain wrote:
Your wish is our command sir! Can you test Android 7.35.7 which was 
rolled out this week? The company tells us that the fixes are deployed 
there as well now.



But I now need quality feedback on both platforms. As we entirely 
cannot do an exhaustive testing due to bandwidth issues.


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 23/01/2024 17:10, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote:

Great work. Its a very handy platform and fixing it will be of great
help. Hope the Android version won't take too much time.

On 1/23/24, Amar Jain  wrote:

Dear all,

 From Mission Accessibility, we are happy to share that Urban Company 
has

fixed a lot of accessibility issues on IOS and is working to fix
remaining ones. Android's accessible version should be out soon as 
well.


This was perhaps one of our oldest collaboration without any 
financial

benefit to us as an organization and took time for us to be able to
educate the company on even the very basics of what accessibility is.

It took different approaches for us to get them to achieve this. 
While

Turab worked hard on sensitizing them, Tanishk, who heads our
sensitization and capacity building vertical now then had joined us 
as a

volunteer who drafted a beautiful legal notice which Rahul sent them,
and I kept on engaging into technical discussions with their
engineering, products, and customer success team. We even did one 
office

visit at our own cost for them last year or so.

Frankly, at one point, nothing was moving ahead. And I was dam
frustrated. In my mind then, court battle was the only option which I
thought would get us the desired results. But persistence and team
effort worked ultimately.

We are conscious of the fact that we need to closely monitor them for
future updates. But at least it is a good start. And the only reason 
we

wanted to share all the background with everyone on this list is to
convey the point that it takes constant pushing and efforts to even 
get
businesses to take baby steps. Therefore, when someone feels 
frustrated
that no result is coming, lets channelize that frustration into 
making

one more service provider more usable and accessible instead of being
angry!

Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible

[Amar Jain]

Your wish is our command sir! Can you test Android 7.35.7 which was 
rolled out this week? The company tells us that the fixes are deployed 
there as well now.



But I now need quality feedback on both platforms. As we entirely cannot 
do an exhaustive testing due to bandwidth issues.


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 23/01/2024 17:10, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote:

Great work. Its a very handy platform and fixing it will be of great
help. Hope the Android version won't take too much time.

On 1/23/24, Amar Jain  wrote:

Dear all,

 From Mission Accessibility, we are happy to share that Urban Company 
has

fixed a lot of accessibility issues on IOS and is working to fix
remaining ones. Android's accessible version should be out soon as 
well.


This was perhaps one of our oldest collaboration without any financial
benefit to us as an organization and took time for us to be able to
educate the company on even the very basics of what accessibility is.

It took different approaches for us to get them to achieve this. While
Turab worked hard on sensitizing them, Tanishk, who heads our
sensitization and capacity building vertical now then had joined us as 
a

volunteer who drafted a beautiful legal notice which Rahul sent them,
and I kept on engaging into technical discussions with their
engineering, products, and customer success team. We even did one 
office

visit at our own cost for them last year or so.

Frankly, at one point, nothing was moving ahead. And I was dam
frustrated. In my mind then, court battle was the only option which I
thought would get us the desired results. But persistence and team
effort worked ultimately.

We are conscious of the fact that we need to closely monitor them for
future updates. But at least it is a good start. And the only reason 
we

wanted to share all the background with everyone on this list is to
convey the point that it takes constant pushing and efforts to even 
get
businesses to take baby steps. Therefore, when someone feels 
frustrated

that no result is coming, lets channelize that frustration into making
one more service provider more usable and accessible instead of being
angry!

Regards,

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[AI] Urban Company-on the path to become accessible

[Amar Jain]

Dear all,

From Mission Accessibility, we are happy to share that Urban Company has 
fixed a lot of accessibility issues on IOS and is working to fix 
remaining ones. Android's accessible version should be out soon as well.


This was perhaps one of our oldest collaboration without any financial 
benefit to us as an organization and took time for us to be able to 
educate the company on even the very basics of what accessibility is.


It took different approaches for us to get them to achieve this. While 
Turab worked hard on sensitizing them, Tanishk, who heads our 
sensitization and capacity building vertical now then had joined us as a 
volunteer who drafted a beautiful legal notice which Rahul sent them, 
and I kept on engaging into technical discussions with their 
engineering, products, and customer success team. We even did one office 
visit at our own cost for them last year or so.


Frankly, at one point, nothing was moving ahead. And I was dam 
frustrated. In my mind then, court battle was the only option which I 
thought would get us the desired results. But persistence and team 
effort worked ultimately.


We are conscious of the fact that we need to closely monitor them for 
future updates. But at least it is a good start. And the only reason we 
wanted to share all the background with everyone on this list is to 
convey the point that it takes constant pushing and efforts to even get 
businesses to take baby steps. Therefore, when someone feels frustrated 
that no result is coming, lets channelize that frustration into making 
one more service provider more usable and accessible instead of being 
angry!


Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Mandatory eye scanning for SIM purchase

[Amar Jain]

Unfortunately TRAI has not prescribed this requirement is what I am 
told. These are operator devised processes for customer acquisition. And 
whenever you complain, they perform the offline verification and onboard 
the affected customer. So not getting a handle to take them to CCPD to 
change this.


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 23/01/2024 10:21, Prashant Naik wrote:


Dear List

Below text is from the WhatsApp group.  It is a major issue.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to bring to your attention a critical issue faced by 
visually impaired individuals, including myself, when attempting to 
purchase SIM cards from various telecommunications service providers 
such as Airtel, Vodafone Idea, and Jio. Our inability to scan with our 
eyes, due to the absence of retina or iBalls, presents a significant 
challenge when attempting to go through the conventional process of SIM 
card acquisition at retail outlets.


As visually impaired individuals, we encounter insurmountable 
difficulties as retailers rely on eye scanning for SIM card purchases, 
which creates a barrier that excludes us from accessing essential 
telecommunication services. This impediment not only contravenes our 
rights but also isolates us from the benefits of seamless connectivity.


In light of these challenges, we seek the intervention of TRAI to 
address this matter. We urge the authority to advocate for and enforce 
better regulations and solutions that would ensure equitable access to 
SIM cards for persons with visual impairment who lack the ability to 
scan with their eyes. We propose the implementation of alternative 
measures, such as biometric solutions like fingerprint scanners, to 
facilitate the purchase of SIM cards, thereby ensuring accessibility 
and inclusivity for all.


It is imperative that the regulatory framework governing SIM card 
purchases is adapted to accommodate the needs of the visually impaired 
community, enabling us to exercise our right to procure essential 
telecommunication services independently and with dignity.


We earnestly request TRAI to take proactive steps to revise and 
implement regulations that embrace the principles of universal design 
and accessibility, addressing the specific challenges faced by visually 
impaired individuals during the process of SIM card purchases.


We are confident that with your support and advocacy, a more inclusive 
and accessible framework can be established, promoting the empowerment 
and independence of persons with visual impairment in the domain of 
telecommunications.


We appreciate your attention to this matter and look forward to the 
implementation of measures that uphold the rights and dignity of 
individuals with visual impairment in accessing telecommunication 
services.


Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,
Doctor Sonal Dubey

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[AI] HVision's talking wallet / Torchit's vision audio wallet?

[Amar Jain]

Hi list,

Any thoughts on either of these products for currency detection? Which 
one is good?


HVision seems to have speech output whereas Torchit seems to have 
braille markings. Torchit's product can be attached to an existing 
wallet it seems-whereas HVision seems to be a wallet in itself with 
speakers imbedded.


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Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Convention titled 'Accessible and Inclusive Digital India (AADI): IS-17802 Putting standard into Action' during International Purple Fest on 12th Jan,2024

[Amar Jain]

Kudos to proactiveness of Sai! This is a much needed discussion and will 
do my best to attend whatever time I can attend for.


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 08/01/2024 17:02, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wrote:

Glad that this is happening. There are some great efforts by the 
Government that are not known to people at large. This should be a 
great discussion. See you there.


Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA (2018), DHS Trusted Tester
Website [1] | LinkedIn Profile [2] | Follow me on Twitter [3]
Director of Product Accessibility, Freshworks, Inc [4]

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 3:19 PM Shubhanshu Gupta  
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Dear Access Indians,

Gentle reminder to register for the PurpleFest convention 'Accessible 
and Inclusive Digital India (AADI): Putting IS-17802 Standard into 
Action' scheduled on January 12th, 2024.


Please note the change in the venue and other details below.

Date:   12th January, 2024 (Friday)
Time:   10:00 AM onwards
Venue: Maquinez II , Entertainment Society of Goa, Panjim Goa
Google Map: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Q5cdd8PTSq7y4Wx79 [5]
Participation Fees: Free
Agenda: https://ictaccessibility.in/index.php/purplefest

Note(s): Lunch will be provided at the venue.

Warm Regards

Team KAI, C-DAC
Email: ictaccessibil...@cdac.in

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 20:38, Sai Bhagat  wrote:

Dear Access Indians,

Wishing you all a festive season filled with joy and anticipating an 
exciting new year!


Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (C-DAC)  is happy to 
announce an  important convention titled   'Accessible and Inclusive 
Digital India (AADI): Putting IS-17802 Standard into Action' . This 
event will be held on 12th January, 2024  during the much-anticipated 
International Purple Fest 2024 in the vibrant setting of Goa.


In today's digital era, ensuring equal access to information and 
technology for everyone, regardless of their abilities, is more crucial 
than ever. The Indian government has taken a significant stride with 
the development of the IS-17802 standard, a comprehensive set of 
requirements for enhancing ICT accessibility. AADI will provide an 
insightful overview of this standard, shed light on various government 
initiatives, and explore inclusive and accessible design, charting the 
course for ICT accessibility in India.


Why attend AADI?

* Learn about the new Indian ICT accessibility standard and how to 
comply with it.

* Grasp the process of accessible and inclusive ICT development.
* Gain insights into the future of ICT accessibility in India.
* Engage in an open forum to discuss ICT accessibility and inclusion.

Who should be part of this convention?

* ICT Developers, designers, system architects, and software testers 
committed to delivering accessible products and services.

* Policymakers and leaders shaping accessibility policies.
* Procurement officers responsible for sourcing ICT products and 
services.
* End-users, including people with disabilities, passionate about 
accessible ICT.


Our aim is not only to introduce and popularize the Indian ICT 
accessibility standard but also to kickstart crucial discussions around 
the accessibility of ICT product and services. Highlights include 
discussions on accessibility in e-governance, the role of the standard 
in RPDA rules, and correct implementation approaches. Expert inputs 
from standard drafting members, legal professionals, and domain experts 
will enrich our discussions.


To register for the convention  AADI, please visit the URL below:

https://forms.office.com/r/rfKde3dvCj

Note: The registration form is exclusively for AADI. All convention 
attendees must also create their account and register on the official 
Purple Fest portal given below https://purplefest.goa.gov.in/.


International platforms like Purple Fest play a pivotal role in 
bringing our accessibility standard, IS-17802, closer to implementors 
and beneficiaries. Save the date - 12th January 2024, 10:00 AM onwards, 
at the Multipurpose Hall, Directorate of Art & Culture, Panjim, Goa.


Interested participents can get in touch with below contact points for 
more details


Mr. Shubhanshu Gupta - +91 8055 681 060 shubhans...@cdac.in

Mr. Saidarshan Bhagat saidars...@cdac.in +91 9820 223489

Let's come together to bridge accessibility gaps and make a meaningful 
impact! Spread the word among your peers and mark your calendars for 
this transformative event.


With regards,

Team KAI

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Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (C-DAC)  

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Re: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

[Amar Jain]

She does all sorts of shopping from brands be it online or offline 
including clothing. And I am on the other hand a kind of a person who 
has his outlets and brands fixed and don't like taking too much of pain 
to shop!


Yep-have been trying simpler things-as I know I can mess things up when 
it comes to all this :)


On 26/12/2023 08:25, Pranav Lal wrote:


Hi Amar,

MM hmm, this is a tricky one since you are dealing with useless audio 
and strange videos.


Does your wife do offline shopping or only online shopping?  My wife 
does both and one way to learn what to do is to go with her and keep 
track of the brands she shops.


Avoid online shopping since determining clothing sizes is hard. Each 
brand has its own size so a size 7 in brand x is different from a size 
7 in brand y.


Come to think of it, how about gifting something that is easier like a  
staycation?


Pranav

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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 3:14 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

Thanks Pranav. She primarily keeps track through social media and 
YouTube influencers both of which I am worst at. Thank you.


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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 8:28 PM
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Subject: RE: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

Amar,

Each brand has its own influencers though watching their videos will 
usually not yield much useful information. How does your wife track her 
brands? Does she, for instance watch a lot of short videos???


Your favorite search engine of choice would yield you the top brands in 
whatever category of product you want. If it is clothing, look for 
seasonal collections. I think that brand is Tommy hillfigure. See 
https://tommyhilfiger.nnnow.com/


Pranav

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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 10:13 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

For those who know me, I am a pure desi guy. Love amazing food, 
travelling and people. So my brand choices or awareness of styles and 
trends is quite not matching young kids.


My wife on the other hand knows the ins and out of latest trends and 
brands like Louis Vuitton. Or middle range brands like Tommy something.


Just to be able to gift something well to her and to be able to relate 
with new trends what can I follow for girls and guys? YouTube 
influencers list for guys?


Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

[Amar Jain]

  
  
  

Thanks Pranav. She primarily keeps track through social media and YouTube influencers both of which I am worst at. Thank you.
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 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf of Pranav Lal Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 8:28 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: RE: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends Amar, Each brand has its own influencers though watching their videos will usually not yield much useful information. How does your wife track her brands? Does she, for instance watch a lot of short videos??? Your favorite search engine of choice would yield you the top brands in whatever category of product you want. If it is clothing, look for seasonal collections. I think that brand is Tommy hillfigure. See https://tommyhilfiger.nnnow.com/PranavFrom: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of Amar JainSent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 10:13 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends For those who know me, I am a pure desi guy. Love amazing food, travelling and people. So my brand choices or awareness of styles and trends is quite not matching young kids. My wife on the other hand knows the ins and out of latest trends and brands like Louis Vuitton. Or middle range brands like Tommy something. Just to be able to gift something well to her and to be able to relate with new trends what can I follow for girls and guys? YouTube influencers list for guys? Regards,Amar Jain Get Outlook for iOS-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/92268847-EDFC-754D-8B70-494FFFAA7C1A%40hxcore.ol.



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[AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

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For those who know me, I am a pure desi guy. Love amazing food, travelling and people. So my brand choices or awareness of styles and trends is quite not matching young kids.My wife on the other hand knows the ins and out of latest trends and brands like Louis Vuitton. Or middle range brands like Tommy something.Just to be able to gift something well to her and to be able to relate with new trends what can I follow for girls and guys? YouTube influencers list for guys?Regards,Amar Jain
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Re: [AI] Ola 4.55.9 IOS-need feedback including from Android users

[Amar Jain]

  
  
  

Update pushed yesterday
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 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf of Shankar C Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 12:28 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Ola 4.55.9 IOS-need feedback including from Android users its working for me, but reinstalling the app might not be the correct
solution. instead they would have pushed the fresh update on the app
store.

On 12/20/23, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In the last hearing before CCPD, Ola had been given a deadline of 15th
> December to fix at least the issue of not being able to select pick up and
> drop location especially on IOS.
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> I just reinstalled the app on IOS and this is working for me.
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> Can others check and confirm?
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[AI] Ola 4.55.9 IOS-need feedback including from Android users

[Amar Jain]

Hi all,In the last hearing before CCPD, Ola had been given a deadline of 15th December to fix at least the issue of not being able to select pick up and drop location especially on IOS.I just reinstalled the app on IOS and this is working for me.Can others check and confirm?Regards,Amar Jain
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Re: [AI] Seeking Support from Access India Community Regarding Denied Salary Account Application

[Amar Jain]

Anil-my phone is not working but hopefully by tomorrow it should be 
restored. Please can we speak tomorrow onwards any time? Will get this 
sorted in five minutes.


+91-9892622230.

George sir-if you are taking this up lets please get one email sent to 
be on records and utilise for our RBI petition?


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 24/11/2023 10:52, Minar Singh wrote:


Hi Anil,
I have my salary account in SBI. I have observed that almost all the 
companies accept salary accounts in SBI. Recently Bandhan bank has 
started a special savings account for persons with disabilities. 
Bandhan bank's doorstep banking services for persons with disabilities 
attracted me to open savings accounts with them. I'm availing Bandhan 
bank's doorstep banking services since 2015.


On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 10:07 AM  wrote:

Tried calling you. Please connect with me offline on 
george.abrah...@gmail.com


Thanks,

George

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On Behalf Of tech and music with anil

Sent: 24 November 2023 09:46
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Seeking Support from Access India Community Regarding 
Denied Salary Account Application


Dear Access India Community,
I hope this email finds you well.
I am writing to seek your guidance regarding a recent experience I had 
while attempting to open a salary account at HSBC Bank. As an 
individual with visual impairment, I encounter unique challenges in 
navigating everyday tasks, and this recent incident has left me 
feeling discouraged and unsure of my options.
Upon visiting the HSBC branch to open a salary account, I was informed 
that my application was denied due to the presence of a thumb 
impression on my PAN card. I explained to the bank representative that 
my visual impairment prevents me from signing documents using a 
conventional pen and that the thumb impression was a necessary 
alternative for identification purposes.
Unfortunately, the bank representative insisted that the thumb 
impression invalidated my PAN card and refused to proceed with my 
account opening request. I felt disheartened and helpless, as my 
ability to maintain financial independence was being compromised due 
to factors beyond my control.
I am reaching out to the Access India community to seek advice and 
support in addressing this issue. I am eager to understand my rights 
as an individual with a disability and explore alternative solutions 
for opening a salary account.
I would greatly appreciate any insights or recommendations that fellow 
Access India members can provide. Your collective knowledge and 
experience would be invaluable in navigating this situation 
effectively.

Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Anil Bhandari
+91,9623228307
Vcreatek Consultant PVTLTD

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Re: [AI] Good News

[Amar Jain]

Bhim would have got or will get shortly a notice from CCPD. Thank you.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2023, at 19:59, Harshit Lohia  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Through this e-mail I urge upon every list member to approach RBI
> Ombudsman through https://cms.rbi.org.in if they are denied any
> service by their banks on account of disability. Please also remember
> to quote RBI's circular on Banking Facilities for Seniour Citizens and
> Differently Abled Persons dated November 9, 2017 in their complaints.
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>> On 11/14/23, Ashutosh Singhal  wrote:
>> I complained to the Bhim App and my local Branch of Canara Bank yesterday.
>> I got responses from both complained and When I visited my local Canara
>> Bank Branch today. Staff behaviour was better than my previous experiences.
>> Their behaviour literally shocked me.
>> Regards:
>> Ashutosh Singhal
>> My contact number is:
>> 8076798104
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Re: [AI] Assistance not just at the airports, but now at railway stations too?

[Amar Jain]

On New Delhi station this is not implemented well. You have private 
buggy operators who run buggies within station premises and charge 
excessively. For two passengers I had to pay around 250 for buggy.



Regards,
Amar Jain
On 14/11/2023 15:22, george.abrah...@gmail.com wrote:
This is an interesting share. Wonder if the Delhi stations provide this 
service. It would be truly great if the service is provided pan India 
and could be accessed with a universal number like the 139 service.


George

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On Behalf Of Aishwarya Pillai

Sent: 14 November 2023 15:03
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Assistance not just at the airports, but now at railway 
stations too?


Hi All,
I looked up for the facilities provided for individuals with visual 
impairment at railway stations and discovered an interesting service – 
the Buggy. This battery-operated car is designed to pick up passengers 
at the entrance and transport them to their designated train coach or 
vice versa. To avail of this service, one simply needs to call the 
specific mobile number assigned to the station.
I got the contact information for the Secunderabad railway station from 
the enquiry counter during my visit, as the ones provided online are 
not working. Additionally, I learned that, upon request, the Buggy 
driver is willing to assist passengers in boarding or getting-off the 
train coach. The cost for a ride is INR 50.
I am planning to utilize this service soon and would like to inquire if 
any of you have had the opportunity to use it. If so, I would 
appreciate it if you could share your experiences.


With regards,
Aishwarya

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Re: [AI] ICICI bank is not allowing me to open my salary account

[Amar Jain]

Email your concern to managingdirec...@icicibank.com

On 26/10/2023 15:38, faiyaz attar wrote:

Dear access Indians,
Greetings of the day. as the subject line suggests, our organization
is in the process to open each employees salary accounts with ICICI
bank. They have already collected my all documents and other required
details. it seems that, the relevant staff is not aware upon how to
open an account with visually challenged customers. our accounts team
is in touch with the zonal office in Jalgaon ICICI bank, but, no
response received till date. I'm not aware how to iniciate the process
for the same. Kindly share RBI guidelines if anyone is having the
same. Also, the suggestions are most welcome!

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[AI] Uber: after call button fix, what next?

[Amar Jain]

Hi all,

Please email me list of fixes for accessibility that we want Uber to fix along 
with screen recording.

Regards,
Amar Jain
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Re: [AI] Microsoft: looking for user connects

[Amar Jain]

Hi Nidhi,Off late Narrator has significantly improved. But the general stand of the MS was always that they intend narrator to work not as the primary screen reader but as something which works well in conjunction with third party screen reader.With your email below, is there a change in leadership or that’s an individual contribution you want to make by gathering user inputs? If it is the former, that would be quite a welcome change!In any case, I fall amongst the users in the second category and would be happy to contribute to make narrator more viable option.Feel free to reach out to me on +91-9892622230 / amarj...@amarjain.comThanks,Amar JainSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2023, at 23:01, Nidhi Jain  wrote:






Hi all,

 

I am Nidhi Jain. I work at Microsoft and I am a product manager for Windows Narrator – the in-built screen reader of Windows. I recently assumed this role and want to spend time talking
 to different screen reader users on what we can do to improve Narrator and make it a potential choice for users.

 

With that context, I am looking to talk to people from different profiles listed below. If you are interested to talk to me and other members in the team, please message me at +918985694636
 or email me at nidj...@microsoft.com.

do spread the word . I will additionally be sending a short survey for everyone irrespective of your interest in talking to us.

 

Profiles of people:

1.
Using Narrator as primary screen reader on Windows either with speech or Braille output .

2.
Using JAWS or NVDA or any other screen reader as primary and fall back on Narrator for few scenarios with speech or Braille output .

3.
Using only JAWS or NVDA or any other screen reader. Heard about Narrator but have not tried it recently.

4.
Using VoiceOver on Mac as primary but do have experience using Windows with screen readers in the last 2 years.

Thanks,

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Re: [AI] Biometrics attendance system accessibility for blind

[Amar Jain]

Swipe machines work on a presumption that the card holder him/herself is 
swiping the card. Whereas biometric machines can authenticate the actual 
employee. In any event we need to figure out accessible biometric 
authentication solutions.


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 22/09/2023 15:40, Minar Singh wrote:

swiping identity card is the most accessible way for keeping attendance 
record. My current and previous organisations are having similar 
process. If RBI can adopt identity card swipe then other banks and 
government departments should have any issue. I believe all Indian IT 
companies are having card swipe process for attendance. Respective 
government departments can tie up with IT companies and get swipe 
machines reinstalled.


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Hi
In Reserve Bank of India offices attendence is fully accessible. We
are provided Identity Caard which we tap while exiting and entering
the office premise. Gate opens and beap sounds and we proceed within
20 seconds. The same attendence system is replicated in the Parliament
also.
On 9/21/23, Sanjay Prasad  wrote:

In our Office, it is 100% inaccessible.  There is a touch Screen  and
a fingerprint recogniser.  One has to enter 8 digits of Aadhar number
and tap on ok button.  It  will display our photo and a message on
screen.   I always have to take someone's help to mark my attendance.
DOPT has issued a circular in June, 2023 wherein it has clearly 
stated

that biometric machines should be kept on PWD employees table.  This
is not followed in our Office.  I have requested several times for 
the

same. but, nothing has materialised.

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Re: [AI] Biometrics attendance system accessibility for blind

[Amar Jain]

Thank you Nidhi and Sanjay.

I am not in favour of advising to seek exemption. Instead let us ensure 
that accessible biometric systems are installed mandatorily by all 
departments where attendance is captured using this mechanism.


Let NIC come out with an accessible mechanism.

Sanjay-which DOPT circular is this? Could you share?

Regards,

Amar Jain

On 21/09/2023 16:23, Nidhi Mishra wrote:


Hello their.
Presently I am working in Delhi directorate of education and my 
department also has compulsory provision to mark attendance through 
adhar based  biometric attendance for its employees, but the visually 
impaired employees of the department are exempted from marking the same 
under a circular issued which I am attaching here.


On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 at 3:08 PM Amar Jain  wrote:


Hi all,

How do people with blindness mark their attendance using the BAS of 
NIC? I am told you need to punch in Aadhar number to be able to mark 
your attendance.


What accessibility measures exist to see that blind employees can 
handle this independently?


Are there any specific DOPT instructions in this regard?

Regards,

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[AI] Biometrics attendance system accessibility for blind

[Amar Jain]

Hi all,

How do people with blindness mark their attendance using the BAS of NIC? 
I am told you need to punch in Aadhar number to be able to mark your 
attendance.


What accessibility measures exist to see that blind employees can handle 
this independently?


Are there any specific DOPT instructions in this regard?

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Re: [AI] My T E D x talk and representation of the visually impaired community

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Aishvarya pls share the video-removed by the uploaded. Keen to watch.Sent from my iPhoneOn 18-Sep-2023, at 9:05 PM, Vatsala R.J  wrote:Hi the video link you have shared is not available in that channel uploader have removed can you please share another if you have so that people like me watching now also can get inspiredOn Mon, 18 Sept, 2023, 8:07 pm Pinkesh Tailor,  wrote:Wonderful! Thanks for sharing

On 9/18/23, Nidhi Mishra  wrote:
> Wow. Your journey and the way you narrated, every thing is so inspiring
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>> Many congratulations!
>> Really wonderful!
>>
>>> On 9/18/23, Aishwarya Pillai  wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> Grateful and humbled to share my talk at TEDx Hyderabad 2023 held on
>>> 17th Sep. It sure was an experience beyond words.  Thanks to each
>>> individual who supported and encouraged me in  my journey.  If it was
>>> not for you all, I would not be what I am today.
>>> Was also happy to represent the  visually impaired community on stage.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R35F9v69tWk=147s
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Re: [AI] Guidance regarding Railway concession E-card

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Take a concession certificate from NFB or any other authorised NGO and then 
upload all docs on the portal. Post verification you can download the e-card. 
Call if you need more gyan :p 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 07-Sep-2023, at 11:51 PM, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
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> Friends,
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> Happy to share that I have received my UDID card online within 15 days
> of my appointment at the civil hospital.
> Would be greatful if someone can guide me step by step for getting a
> railway concession card (used for online booking).
> 
> Thanks,
> Ajay
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Re: [AI] Indian Banks’ Association invites feedback from the public on the draft Accessibility Standards and Guidelines for Banking Sector

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Thank you Prashant for sharing this most critical document-holiday screwed for 
sure but worth the effort.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> Hi,
> 
> is there any information for axis bank like this.
> Can anyone throws light on accessible internet banking for axis bank.
> Valuable suggestions are expected.
> 
> 
>> On 9/5/23, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>> Dear List
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is a very important development regarding banking accessibility.
>> Please provide your feedback to Indian Banks' Association (IBA).  Pasting
>> below their published notice on *4th September 2023*. Please find attached
>> to this mail draft accessibility standards document downloaded from the IBA
>> website *https://www.iba.org.in/ <https://www.iba.org.in/>*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Feedback on ‘Accessibility Standards and Guidelines for Banking Sector.*
>> 
>> Indian Banks’ Association invites feedback from the public on the draft
>> Accessibility Standards and Guidelines for Banking Sector.
>> 
>> The Department of Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities has advised the
>> Ministries / Departments to prepare and finalize the accessibilities
>> standards in respect of the facilities and services accessible to persons
>> with disabilities pertaining to their respective sector after stakeholder
>> consultation. Accordingly, DFS has mandated IBA to formulate Guidelines for
>> Customers with Special needs and Persons with Disabilities with respect to
>> Banking Sector and for conducting the stakeholder consultation.
>> 
>> The draft guideline compiled on ‘Accessibility Standards and Guidelines for
>> Banking Sector’ for differently abled customers is displayed for the public
>> opinion. The feedback may be sent to *vp.r...@iba.org.in
>>  * by *11th September 2023.*
>> 
>> Attached pdf file - 1693903817665.pdf
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>> Source :
>> https://www.iba.org.in/publications/feedback-on-accessibility-standards-and-guidelines-for-banking-sector-_1501.html
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[AI] Avichal’s contact number

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Could I get Avichal’s contact number please? Respond off the list. You can ping 
me on 9892622230. Thank you.

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[AI] EOffice accessibility issues respond by 3 pm tomorrow

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Hi everyone,

Sorry for the short notice but please email me all the accessibility issues 
with e-office by tomorrow. And is there any employee who would want to take it 
up legally if required to do so? Thank you.

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Re: [AI] Reflections on the First Access Collective Meet

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Aparna who all were part of audience? Meenakshi and I was thinking to make it but just didn’t have yours or Sandeep’s number. And of course I was too lazy to write an email. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 06-Aug-2023, at 8:46 PM, Aparna Sachdev  wrote:Hello again!13 Disabled people walked into a coffee shop. Nope, not trying to make yet another tasteless disability joke. This past Sunday, 13 of us met up at the Café Coffee Day in Green Park to chat, share crip stories, and experience something of Disability Pride together before Disability Pride Month came to an end. Talk naturally turned to people’s first moments of disability pride – some people identified their first contact with collectivities of disabled people as the germinal moment for disability pride, others pointed to moments when as disabled people they experienced feeling and being recognised as competent human beings at university or at work. Still others identified “coming out of the closet” as a disabled person as being empowering. Interestingly, “coming out” and the experience of pride in marginal identity seem to be mutually reinforcing factors, in that “coming out” is a declaration of pride, and pride makes it possible to “come out”.  So much of the disability stuff we read came alive that day: we saw Crip Technoscience in action in the self-designed cane tips and telescoping white cane that blind physics professor Dr. T.K. Bansal had brought, another person wrote shayari about his frequent experiences of being unceremoniously grabbed and helped as a blind person regardless of whether he wanted it, a crip artistic rendering of #JustAskDon’tGrab. However, we collectively acknowledge that the group this time was largely blind people, and resolved that the Access Collective venues from hereon would be picked to be accessible to wheelchair-using folks. Our sincere apologies for not being able to ensure access for all for the first meet. The short notice (and our limited spoons) prevented us from carrying out an extensive accessibility recce of multiple venues. We would love for people to contribute with information, ideas, suggestions etc, because the Access Collective is envisaged as a decentralised endeavour where everyone has ownership of the group and its functioning. You can write to us at access.collectiv...@gmail.com. The next meet is scheduled for Sunday, August 27th, venue yet to be decided. Okay, logistics aside, we’ve been very excited about something for the past week or so. Lachi, a legally blind black singer and founder of RAMPD released Lift me Up, a song written in honour of Judy Heumann, recognised as the “Mother of the US Disability Rights movement”, who passed away earlier this year. We can’t stop listening to it on repeat, it’s that incredibly good. Aptly released in the middle of Disability Pride Month, Lift me up is a tribute to the interdependence, care and community that exists and thrives among disabled people everywhere. Give it a listen! Wishing everyone a happy friendship day!Cheers,The Access Collective TeamSandeep R. Singh and Aparna Sachdev



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Re: [AI] Health Insurance from ICICI

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Dear Nirmal sir,As discussed, here is the email address: bhargav.dasgu...@icicilombard.comPlease let me know the outcome of the email and happy to take it up legally if required.Regards,Amar JainSent from my iPhoneOn 26-Jul-2023, at 6:49 PM, Nirmal Verma  wrote:Dear friendsHas anybody taken health policy for blind person from ICICI? Please contact me off the list. RegardsNirmal93110886607007869291



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Re: [AI] Accessibility inputs for Blinkit on IOS 15.11.0 onwards

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Thanks Avichal-is that still happening?

On 26/07/2023 12:47, Avichal Bhatnagar wrote:

Hello Sir,
Another issue which I encountered while using Blinkit was selection of 
location.


On 7/26/23, Amar Jain  wrote:



Hi all,

For those who are using Blinkit on IOS, request for your specific
accessibility inputs on IOS for builts starting with 15.11.0 onwards.

The payment method selection screen and the post-checkout screens have
issues for which we do not have timelines yet to resolve.

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[AI] Accessibility inputs for Blinkit on IOS 15.11.0 onwards

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Hi all,

For those who are using Blinkit on IOS, request for your specific 
accessibility inputs on IOS for builts starting with 15.11.0 onwards.


The payment method selection screen and the post-checkout screens have 
issues for which we do not have timelines yet to resolve.


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Re: [AI] Ola asked to make pick-up and drop location selection, driver information accessible within 4 weeks

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Avichal sharing my own personal view and not saying as a co-founder of Mission 
Accessibility.

Rapido at this moment is struggling to keep its business up and running as more 
and more states are becoming a legal hurdle for them to operate. Prominent 
states like Maharashtra, Delhi etc in terms of revenue has become a problem for 
them.

The other side of the story is that these loss making businesses manage to find 
investors for them who are willing to write a cheque. So should we be putting 
our efforts is a question I am struggling to answer for myself.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 07-Jun-2023, at 6:47 PM, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> 
> Really commendable work, kudos to Amar and Rahul!
> Please try doing something similar for Rapido.
> 
>> On 6/7/23, Aravind R  wrote:
>> nice sir
>> 
>>> On 07/06/2023, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apologies-record of proceedings attached. Next hearing tentatively
>>> scheduled for 04.07.2023.
>>> 
>>>> On 07/06/2023 12:50, Amar Jain wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> In the ongoing hearing against Ola Cabs before the CCPD, the Court has
>>>> asked Ola to make pick-up and drop location selection, along with
>>>> driver information accessible in a period of four weeks from
>>>> 03.06.2023. Further, the company has been asked to prepare a roadmap to
>>>> make all its features accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> Extremely thankful to my co-founder Rahul Bajaj of Mission
>>>> Accessibility for his presence and valuable inputs in the hearing.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
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[AI] Ola asked to make pick-up and drop location selection, driver information accessible within 4 weeks

[Amar Jain]

Dear all,

In the ongoing hearing against Ola Cabs before the CCPD, the Court has 
asked Ola to make pick-up and drop location selection, along with driver 
information accessible in a period of four weeks from 03.06.2023. 
Further, the company has been asked to prepare a roadmap to make all its 
features accessible.


Extremely thankful to my co-founder Rahul Bajaj of Mission Accessibility 
for his presence and valuable inputs in the hearing.


Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] app for rent items

[Amar Jain]

Furlenko is my preferred choice.But one genuine advice, the electronic items on rent even if new increase your electricity consumption a lot. So as soon as budget permits, please buy them new and take out the rented ones.Sent from my iPhoneOn 04-Jun-2023, at 8:20 AM, rahul agarwal  wrote:hi friends,I am relocating to delhi. i have to buy some items like washing machine, study table and chair, led tv. i want to procure them on rent. so, please suggest me which app is the best for buying such items on rent.



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[AI] Is it required to physically get the new railway concession id card generated on Divyangjan portal linked at the Passenger Reservation Counter?

[Amar Jain]

Dear all,

For the cards generated on divyangjan id portal of Indian Railways, is 
it required to get this card linked at the passenger reservation counter 
for the first time physically like the old cards which were generated 
offline in the DRM office?


Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Mission Accessibility WhatsApp Group

[Amar Jain]

Hi guys,

Those who know us (which most people here do), would not deny the fact 
that we are very open to feedback and anything that improves the work we 
do, or its output. Because inaccessibility is not a problem faced by few 
individuals, it impacts the community at large, so any improvement which 
leads to positive is most welcomed.


I am also conscious of the fact that many within the community are 
equally frustrated with inaccessibility and years of effort that each 
one of us in the community (within and outside of Mission Accessibility) 
has put in to make things accessible and the progress has been slow.


We are equally facing the same constraints which others have faced in 
the community but we are mobilizing everyone's support and working as a 
collective rather than as individuals which certainly will lead to 
larger impact and better outcomes.


Rahul has already well articulated the problems that exist in 
implementation of accessibility from all perspectives, and while our 
progress may appear to be slow for some individuals possibly because of 
the frustration they have gone through over the years, and consequently 
when anyone tries to shift a culture from inaccessibility to 
accessibility, automatically our expectations are bound to increase. If 
I was you watching this organization from outside, I may have equally 
felt the same though I could have channelised my energies in a way to 
support the effort of this kind to get positive results.


Unless we all keep doing this together, neither are we going to learn 
how to work with the system nor are we going to realise the constraints 
which others are facing.


Let us continue to work together and make this world a more accessible 
place for everyone!


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 24/04/2023 10:21, Shankar C wrote:

could not find anything wrong in his statement.
let them express there views however they want. why are you showing so
much of involvement on this thread.
no such formats for expressing the concerns.



On 4/23/23, Ahmed Omer Farooq  wrote:
Suggestions are often necessary. Sometimes suggestions play an 
important
role in improving the works. But the way of saying must also be 
better.

Because how is being said is more important than what is being said.
Best,
Ahmed Omer Farooq.

On Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 1:06 PM  wrote:


The points which shared by other people must considered as a feedback
instead criticism.



*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in 


*On
Behalf Of *Prerna Sobti
*Sent:* Sunday, April 23, 2023 11:07 AM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Mission Accessibility WhatsApp Group



I agree with the points listed by Rahul

We , within the Community should encourage each other’s efforts and
support T The People Who are trying to make this world A better place 
to

live

Best

Prerna Sobti



On 22-Apr-2023, at 8:30 AM, Mission Accessibility <
missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> wrote:



Dear Mohib,



Good morning. Many thanks for taking time out to share your feedback 
with

us.



First, yes, even as we work with individual apps or litigate against
them,
we are taking steps to pursue the solution of digital accessibility 
at
scale. The Ccpd has issued notices to 74 service providers at our 
behest

all of whom have been asked to make their offerings accessible within
three
months and to submit a status report within six months. This includes
banking and fin tech apps.



Second, as for captchas,4 we have submitted a list of 25 odd 
government
websites that have inaccessible captchas to the Ccpd office and to 
the
secretary, DEPWD.  They have assured us of action in this regard. 
Just

day
before yesterday, I had a chat with the legal consultant in the Ccpd
office
about next steps on this project. I am committed to taking it to its
logical conclusion.



Third, as for the WhatsApp group, it now has 266 members. It is aimed 
at
being  a platform for people to know about our work. If we open it up 
to
people 24 seven, it will be flooded with messages. And it will be 
very
difficult for us to go through people‘s feedback. Instead, we have 
left
open the possibility of people sharing their views with us in four 
main

ways.



First, by writing an email to us on Mission Accessibility at 
gmail.com.

Second, by messaging any of us privately on WhatsApp. We are very
transparent about sharing our phone numbers.  Even if it may 
sometimes
causes some inconvenience. Third, we will keep the group open for 
certain

designated time slots on weekends. We are figuring out the time
currently.
And forth, through threads like this one, we constantly get your 
feedback

and try to improve our processes.



However, please do understand that change of this kind does not 
happen
overnight.  And simply blaming us for the slow pace of progress may 
not
always be right. Several variables are beyond our control. The kind 
of

work
that we are trying to do is at the cutting edge of accessibility in 
India
and gl

Re: [AI] Pursuing partime degree in law from recognized university

[Amar Jain]

Pinkish bhaiya-you can’t teach or practice but you can study from few 
universities. In Mumbai there are a few colleges offering evening classes as 
well.

Google will give you the list.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 15-Apr-2023, at 2:11 PM, Sana Samad  wrote:
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> Sir,
> I hope you are fine and safe.
> National Law University, Delhi offers a course: LLM Professional
> The objective of the course is to provide an overview of various laws
> prevailing in the market so that the students are able to use the
> knowledge in their professional carrier. It is 1 year course. Classes
> are held online as well as offline. The main disadvantage of this
> course is that you are not eligible to practice law after completing
> this course nor you can teach as a law professor in any university. It
> is divided into 2 semesters. In 1st semester overview and general laws
> are taught. In 2nd semester students can choose any one stream such as
> corporate law, criminal law, Intellectual Property Rights, Etc.
> For more details you can check website of NLU Delhi.
> I hope it will help.
> 
> Regards
> 
>> On 4/14/23, Pinkesh Tailor  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> as the subject line states, I am willing to initiate a new learning
>> for myself in law. I am currently on a full time job, and seeking for
>> a professional part time degree in law. I am holding a masters degree
>> in Marketing management from Mumbai university, and wish to know
>> whether Mumbai university or any other recognized institution offer a
>> valid part time degree in law? Also whether I am eligible to pursue
>> the same? Whether there is any age restriction to study law. Please
>> throw some guidance on this
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Re: [AI] Query Regarding Smart Glasses

[Amar Jain]

Sana Envision. Feel free to call me up I have unfortunately lost your number. 
9892622230.

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> Dear list members,
> I hope you all are fine and safe.
> As you all are aware that there are many smart glasses available for
> visually impaired in the market such as Orcam Eye Pro, Google Glasses,
> Smart Vision Glasses, Etc. I am interested in purchasing smart
> glasses. Before moving forward, I have some queries:
> 1. Which device is best and accessible with Iphone?
> 2. I am 100% visually impaired. I am having ROP stage IV. Based on my
> disability which glass is suitable for me?
> 3. I want to purchase glass for improving my mobility, for navigating,
> for identifying colors  for reading handwritten and printed text and
> for reading information/ bar code mentioned on the products. Based on
> my requirement, which glass should I purchase?
> 
> I hope you will resolve my queries at the earliest and will help me in
> taking smart decision.
> 
> Regards
> Sana Samad, Delhi
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Re: [AI] experience with dishwasher accessibility

[Amar Jain]

I have one from LG at parents place of 14 plates, it is membrane panel with 
Wifi connectivity with LG ThinQ integration. Which makes it usable for us.

I know of few friends using IFB and they say it’s accessible, but their service 
wasn’t that qualitative earlier including spare parts availability. Not sure of 
the current status.



Regards,
Amar Jain

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> IFB dish washer is accessible. It has nobs and buttons in it. It does
> not have touch panel.
> 
> Regards
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> 
>> On 4/14/23, nidhigoyal...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Dear all
>> 
>> Hope you are having a lovely week. Does anyone have experiences around
>> dishwasher brands / models that are most accessible. Some brands have only
>> touch screens, some touch screens with not fully accessible apps, some have
>> a combination of tactile and touch screens in my research.
>> 
>> Any personal experiences will help.
>> 
>> Appreciate the help and grateful for responses in advance.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Nidhi
>> 
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Re: [AI] Important updates from Mission Accessibility

[Amar Jain]

Hi all,

I wanted to place on record the fact that the workshop was held in a tripartite 
manner, between rehabilitation Council of India, Mission Accessibility and 
xrcvc. While mission Accessibility handled the first two days of the workshop, 
XRCVC handled the third day.

The role that has been played by this workshop in making digital offerings by 
the government more accessible, including in the realm of social media, is 
instrumental. For example, now they are using image descriptions with all their 
images on Twitter. We are very grateful to xrcvc for working with us in this 
manner.

Let me also personally place on record my appreciation for  Dr Sam‘s generous 
guidance and mentorship to us as a young organisation finding our feet in the 
world of Accessibility. We look forward to collaborating him and with xrcvc in 
the future.

Regards,
Amar Jain



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> On 27-Mar-2023, at 12:48 PM, Parimala Bhat  wrote:
> 
> congratulations for your excelent work. best wishes for your future 
> commitments.
> 
>> On 3/27/23, Prerna Sobti  wrote:
>> Heartiest congratulations and good luck for your future endeavours
>> Best
>> 
>> 
>> Prerna Sobti
>> 
>>>> On 27-Mar-2023, at 8:28 AM, vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I convey my heart-felt congratulations to the mission accessibility team.
>>> You have done excellent work in the past and I am convinced that in future
>>> too, this dedicated team will continue its services with the same vigor.
>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
>>> Behalf Of Mission Accessibility
>>> Sent: 27 March 2023 12:02 AM
>>> To: accessindia 
>>> Subject: [AI] Important updates from Mission Accessibility
>>> 
>>> Following are the 4 significant updates from MA's side:
>>> 1. DEPwD and Rehabilitation Council of India in coordination with MA
>>> organised a 3-day workshop on web accessibility from 21 March with the aim
>>> to equip web designers of government know-how  of disability related
>>> issues and there were a range of speakers including Rahul Bajaj, Sh.
>>> Dhananjay Bhole, Srinivasu Chakravarthula and Shri. Dipendra Manocha.
>>> (Link: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1910198)
>>> 2. On 21 March Mission Accessibility began its collaboration with Rhodes
>>> trust for making their
>>> online offerings more disable friendly. We delivered a workshop on why
>>> accessibility matters among other relevant issues. It was well attended by
>>> 78 members of Rhodes trust.
>>> 3. Chief Comm for PwD began sending Notice to around 70 inaccessible
>>> platforms for which MA submitted a list on September 19. It is an
>>> achievement gained after a persistent work of over 6 months on our part.
>>> The Commissioner has given 6 months to the entities to make their
>>> platforms accessible and submit status report.
>>> 4. On 23 March, MA had organised a workshop for all research fellows at
>>> Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy for making Vidhi’s output accessible. We are
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Re: [AI] Orcam

[Amar Jain]

I have directly interacted with orcam and for India it is not worth it because of lack of digitised data in English. If you are open to buy orcam then do check Envision glasses. Kartik Mahadevan and his team is very responsive.Happy to discuss offline if you need in-depth reviews. +91-9892622230 / amarj...@amarjain.comThank you.Regards,Amar JainSent from my iPhoneOn 10-Apr-2023, at 4:18 PM, Aanchal j khetarpal  wrote:Hi,Wanted to know if anyone has tried the orcam glasses here. And is there anywhere u can get a demo??Any other alternatives also??Regards Aanchal 



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Re: [AI] Mobile app Accessibility survey inside, to reach more companies

[Amar Jain]

Mahesh let’s connect offline on this? 9892622230. Would be helpful if we can 
speak today so that I can factor in your inputs. Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 09-Apr-2023, at 11:11 PM, Mahesh S. Panicker  
> wrote:
> 
> Hopefully, the Delhi HC constituted committee will do the job for us!
> Any info on any possible responses from the major banks like Axis and
> ICICI on the issue?
> 
>> On 4/9/23, Amar Jain  wrote:
>> For all banking finance industry issues, the Delhi High Court had
>> constituted a High Powered Committee where George Abraham sir individually
>> and I on behalf of BGFI  are members of the committee and we are doing our
>> best to address inaccessibility. Accordingly, it is not a good time for
>> Mission Accessibility to take up this sector.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 09-Apr-2023, at 12:08 AM, Mahesh S. Panicker
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would very much second that!. Axis Bank has some fabulous banking
>>> products and with their City Bank takeover, we can expect even better.
>>> However, the Axis Mobile app on Android does not even belong to this
>>> century! Utterly pathetic in terms of accessibility, and contacting
>>> the team through regular channels hasn't really helped.
>>> The other banking app  that was quite usable but has recently become
>>> quite the opposite is ICICI's ImobilePay.
>>>> On 4/8/23, P L Verma  wrote:
>>>> as i mentioned previously, axis bank mobile app requires attention.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Payal Ki Jhankar
>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2023 9:02 AM
>>>> Subject: [AI] Mobile app Accessibility survey inside, to reach more
>>>> companies
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> I have been talking a lot with my friends in various spaces; about the
>>>> inaccessibility of mobile apps, and the wonderful work Mission
>>>> Accessibility has been doing on that front, to bring about change.
>>>> Friends,
>>>> who are either employed with some ofthe companies we've been trying to
>>>> reach, or some where they think they may be able to facilitate contact,
>>>> have
>>>> offered to try and help reach relevant persons, and weigh in on them
>>>> about
>>>> the issue.
>>>> For that, one of my friends, has created a simple Google form to be
>>>> able
>>>> to understand which companies to get to, in order of priority, to get
>>>> going.
>>>> I request everyone to please answer this simple survey, so we can have
>>>> another avenue to get to those who won't listen to us easily enough.
>>>> The link is:
>>>>  https://forms.gle/BETS1wmfKWhfrfPE9
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Best
>>>> 
>>>> Payal
>>>> 
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Re: [AI] Mobile app Accessibility survey inside, to reach more companies

[Amar Jain]

For all banking finance industry issues, the Delhi High Court had constituted a 
High Powered Committee where George Abraham sir individually and I on behalf of 
BGFI  are members of the committee and we are doing our best to address 
inaccessibility. Accordingly, it is not a good time for Mission Accessibility 
to take up this sector.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 09-Apr-2023, at 12:08 AM, Mahesh S. Panicker  
> wrote:
> 
> I would very much second that!. Axis Bank has some fabulous banking
> products and with their City Bank takeover, we can expect even better.
> However, the Axis Mobile app on Android does not even belong to this
> century! Utterly pathetic in terms of accessibility, and contacting
> the team through regular channels hasn't really helped.
> The other banking app  that was quite usable but has recently become
> quite the opposite is ICICI's ImobilePay.
>> On 4/8/23, P L Verma  wrote:
>> as i mentioned previously, axis bank mobile app requires attention.
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Payal Ki Jhankar
>>  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>  Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2023 9:02 AM
>>  Subject: [AI] Mobile app Accessibility survey inside, to reach more
>> companies
>> 
>> 
>>  Hi Everyone,
>>  I have been talking a lot with my friends in various spaces; about the
>> inaccessibility of mobile apps, and the wonderful work Mission
>> Accessibility has been doing on that front, to bring about change. Friends,
>> who are either employed with some ofthe companies we've been trying to
>> reach, or some where they think they may be able to facilitate contact, have
>> offered to try and help reach relevant persons, and weigh in on them about
>> the issue.
>>  For that, one of my friends, has created a simple Google form to be able
>> to understand which companies to get to, in order of priority, to get going.
>> I request everyone to please answer this simple survey, so we can have
>> another avenue to get to those who won't listen to us easily enough.
>>  The link is:
>>   https://forms.gle/BETS1wmfKWhfrfPE9
>> 
>>  Thanks.
>>  Best
>> 
>>  Payal
>> 
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Re: [AI] Most accessible setup box

[Amar Jain]

Bharat If your decision is to move out due to accessibility reasons then please 
do share your inputs off the list. At Mission Accessibility (an initiative I 
run with my co-founder Rahul Bajaj to solve for digital inaccessibility) have 
taken cognisance of this issue. 9892622230. Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 09-Apr-2023, at 9:27 PM, Bharat  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am considering moving away from the airtel Android Set top box &
> would like to know about the most accessible option available in the
> market at the moment. Request you to share  your views & help.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Bharat.
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Re: [AI] Mobile app Accessibility survey inside, to reach more companies

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Is it Payal mam or someone else? Please share your number. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 08-Apr-2023, at 9:02 AM, Payal Ki Jhankar  wrote:Hi Everyone,
I have been talking a lot with my friends in various spaces; about the inaccessibility of mobile apps, and the wonderful work Mission  Accessibility has been doing on that front, to bring about change. Friends,  who are either employed with some ofthe companies we've been trying to reach, or some where they think they may be able to facilitate contact, have offered to try and help reach relevant persons, and weigh in on them about the issue.  
For that, one of my friends, has created a simple Google form to be able to understand which companies to get to, in order of priority, to get going. I request everyone to please answer this simple survey, so we can have another avenue to get to those who won't listen to us easily enough.
The link is: https://forms.gle/BETS1wmfKWhfrfPE9

Thanks.
Best
Payal




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[AI] PIB Release: 3-day workshop on Web Accessibility organized by the Rehabilitation Council of India from 21.03.2023 to 23.03.2023.

[Amar Jain]

3-day workshop on Web Accessibility organized by the Rehabilitation Council of India from 21.03.2023 to 23.03.2023.Focus on making disabled - friendly digital platformsWorkshop aimed to create awareness and impart knowledge of fundamentals of digital accessibility including social media accessibilityWorkshop inaugurated by Shri Rajesh Aggarwal, Secretary, DEPwD and Chairperson, RCIPosted On: 23 MAR 2023 10:45PM by PIB DelhiThe objective of the workshop was to help software developers to acquire the know-how for making digital platforms more disabled-friendly.  The workshop was inaugurated by Shri Rajesh Aggarwal, Secretary, DEPwD and Chairperson, RCI on 21.03.2023 followed with welcome remarks for the participants and the trainers ranging from various reputed agencies. This certified training program aimed to create awareness and impart knowledge of fundamentals of digital accessibility which includes the roadmaps of accessibility and the procedures involved, creating accessible documents, social media accessibility etc. Eminent Speakers of the sessions were Sh. Amar Jain, Mr. Rahul Bajaj co-founder of Mission Accessibility, Sh. Dhananjay Bhole, Srinivasu Chakravarthula,Shri. Dipendra Manocha and Mr. Sushil and Sheezan from Xavier's Resource Centre for the Visually Challanged.The participation in this workshop is varied across the spectrum of Government and non-government domain, which includes the participation across various National Institutes of DEPwD including private web developers from various entities etc.Today the valedictory session ended with certificate distribution to all the participants.Source: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1910198 Sent from my iPhone



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Re: [AI] Issues with UDID

[Amar Jain]

I echo these thoughts.Further the government is well empowered to deliver welfare benefits by prescribing UDID. It helps us in collection of data, delivery of services to the most affected areas, and so on.If there are bottlenecks then we must address it for sure, but only looking at negatives in everything without having a fair balance of positives is not a healthy approach.Sent from my iPhoneOn 19-Mar-2023, at 8:52 AM, Harish Kotian  wrote:

  
  
Hi
It is my personal opinion that UDID should be made mandatory for
  availing all services for the disabled.It should be the only
  identification means for authenticating disability.
 

Having said this, all the services should be put in place before
  the D date and scaling  up should be fully factored in. There are
  numerous benefits to us through UDID. We should not fall into the
  temptation of stalling the effort and rather we should clearly not
  join them. 



There may be some difficulty for sometime. That always happens
  during transition. As what they say, you don't throw the baby with
  the bathwater 



I am well aware, there is going to be sharp reactions to my line
  of thought, however I am convinced UDID is progressive and
  disabled friendly and this is the most important thing which can
  make huge changes for our benefit. 



Harish


On 19/03/2023 06:43, bhawani shankar
  verma wrote:


  
  UDID should not be mada mandatory. we must fight
collectively for it. 
  
  
On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 9:09 pm
  Amar Jain, <amarj...@amarjain.com>
  wrote:


  I would like to help you out to address your
concerns. I am a corporate lawyer and have an interface with
the authorities you are struggling with.


Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on
  9892622230. Thank you.
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
On 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM,
  Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) <ykhan...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

  
  

  

  Dear Muralidharan,
   
  Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray
you meet some success. In India it seems a lot
of this is going on: They make something
inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve.
Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the
packet of biscuits, but there is an empty
biscuit packet on the table even before the
distribution to all the attendees. This is my
experience having come to India. Very sad and
ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible
here in Vrindavana because the agents say the
retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar
I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my
home, they refused because a blind person cannot
own property. We have to be linked with a
sighted person who has Aadhaar so that the
property can be registered with the sighted
person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour
in India, and there seems to be no authority in
place who really cares to actually do something.
  Can you please help me? Very pained and
frustrated. Sometimes I feel life was better
under our former captivity of slave-owners and
later the African leadership who hate Indians in
Africa. I came to India to become free. How
wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4
generations away, I return home only to find we
are slaves here to a highly corrupt and
disorganized administration. For example, the
National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is
1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not
exist!!!
   
  Thanks a lot however for doing what you can.
Evidently you are fighting a very difficult
battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan
Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and
loved King on Earth, walk with you 

Re: [AI] Issues with UDID

[Amar Jain]

I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a corporate lawyer and have an interface with the authorities you are struggling with.Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:



Dear Muralidharan,
 
Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In 
India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible to 
achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the 
packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the table even 
before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my experience having come 
to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in 
Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without 
Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my home, they refused 
because a blind person cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted 
person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be registered with the sighted 
person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be 
no authority in place who really cares to actually do something.
Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life 
was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African 
leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How wrong 
was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return home only to 
find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized administration. For 
example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only 
problem is it does not exist!!!
 
Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a 
very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who 
was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you 
through this fight.
 
Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa)




From: Muralidharan Vishwanath 
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 

Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID
 


March 
18, 2023
 
As all 
of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for 
registering for central government schemes.
 
This 
even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been 
issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been 
unable to enroll for it, due to various issues.
 
UDID 
is being made compulsory even when central government’s own 
ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in 
jobs,  or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the 
validity of the card
 
The 
NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. 

 
It has 
also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its 
validity. 
 
Notwithstanding 
this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled 
are facing with regard to procuring UDID. 
 
One of 
the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about 
non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or 
they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is 
about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. 

 
We are 
seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are 
attempting to list will be placed before him.
 
You 
are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may 
please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com
 
 
Muralidharan
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Re: [AI] Meeting on insurance and government health schemes for the disabled on 15th March: request for inputs

[Amar Jain]

Please also share any inputs you may have on Ayushmann Bharat. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 13-Mar-2023, at 10:28 AM, Mission Accessibility  wrote:







Hi all,


In my role as a consultant on disability rights for the Vidhi Centre for legal policy, I have been invited by the Department of empowerment for persons with disabilities for a meeting on 15th March. I would like your inputs for that meeting. Two sets of
 broad issues will be discussed.


First, strengthening the CGhs, adip and aLimco schemes and removing any discrepancies amongst them so as to ensure harmonisation and uniformity.


Second, addressing the challenges faced by the disabled in accessing insurance policies.


Please share your inputs on these above two aspects, ideally in the form of problems followed by solutions. Thank you.


Rahul



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Re: [AI] Regarding inaccessibility of Ola and Rapido on IOS

[Amar Jain]

In addition to what Rahul has responded: please note that a case in Delhi High Court is ongoing regarding inaccessibility of banking overall. So any effort in this regard will have to be guided by the Court.Regards,Amar JainSent from my iPhoneOn 09-Mar-2023, at 9:59 AM, Mission Accessibility  wrote:







Thanks a lot Shankar. We will take up imobile today itself. We will write a letter to them as the first step of our five step process.



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Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:14:31 PM
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Hi amar,
I expressed my concerns about I mobile app many times, but there is no response from you and mission accessibility team.
Kindly provide the status of the concerns which was shared on this list.


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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of Amar Jain
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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding inaccessibility of Ola and Rapido on IOS

Ola is before CCPD Avichal and the hearing is yet to happen.

Rapido we are discussing on next steps.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 07-Mar-2023, at 6:40 PM, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
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> I recently installed Ola on my Iphone and found it to be highly inaccessible.
> For instance, when searching for a destination, voiceover doesn't 
> announce its name, which makes it impossible to identify.
> Also, I had raised several issues with regard to accessibility of 
> Rapido on IOS, so may I request the mission accessibility team to 
> provide any update on the same?
> Ever since moto rides have been banned in Delhi, it has made us more 
> dependent on Cab and auto-rickshaw rides, therefore it is extremely 
> important to have all three apps — Ola, Uber and Rapido fully 
> accessible.
> Thanks,
> Avichal
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Re: [AI] Regarding inaccessibility of Ola and Rapido on IOS

[Amar Jain]

Ola is before CCPD Avichal and the hearing is yet to happen.

Rapido we are discussing on next steps.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 07-Mar-2023, at 6:40 PM, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
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> Hello list members,
> I recently installed Ola on my Iphone and found it to be highly inaccessible.
> For instance, when searching for a destination, voiceover doesn't
> announce its name, which makes it impossible to identify.
> Also, I had raised several issues with regard to accessibility of
> Rapido on IOS, so may I request the mission accessibility team to
> provide any update on the same?
> Ever since moto rides have been banned in Delhi, it has made us more
> dependent on Cab and auto-rickshaw rides, therefore it is extremely
> important to have all three apps — Ola, Uber and Rapido fully
> accessible.
> Thanks,
> Avichal
> 
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Re: [AI] Informative Video on Home Automation by NAB Delhi

[Amar Jain]

Well done NAB team! Prashant sir is known to come out with such 
innovative solutions for years so let them keep coming sir.


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 06/03/2023 17:04, NAB Delhi Helpline wrote:

Attention all! We have an exciting video for you featuring NAB Delhi's 
General Secretary Prashant Ranjan Verma and Computer Trainer Harendra. 
In this video, you'll learn all about home automation devices and how 
they can make your daily life easier, particularly if you are visually 
impaired.


Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma will explain how home automation devices work 
and how they can be customised to suit your specific needs. You'll 
learn about devices such as smart speakers, AC, TV, washing machine, 
lights, door locks,etc and how they can be controlled through your 
smartphone or voice commands.


But that's not all! Mr. Harendra will demonstrate how these devices can 
be used in a person's daily life to complete tasks such as adjusting 
the temperature, turning on the lights, and even brewing a cup of 
coffee! You'll see firsthand how these devices can be a game-changer 
for someone who is visually impaired and how they can increase 
independence and improve the quality of life.


So don't miss out on this informative and exciting video! Watch now and 
learn about the incredible world of home automation devices and their 
use in a visually impaired person's daily life.


For any queries related to this, you may reach out to us at 8826261166 
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[AI] PayTM issues-hearing on 16th March

[Amar Jain]

Greatful if people can highlight accessibility issues with PayTM especially 
accessibility professionals because the company continues to reject that they 
are inaccessible.

The hearing is on 16th March. Thank you.

Regards,
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[AI] Uber-Highlight accessibility issues

[Amar Jain]

Please highlight all accessibility issues with Uber as they have responded me. 
The call issue is brought to their notice. Thank you.

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Re: [AI] requirement of an accessibility tester

[Amar Jain]

What is your specific need Tanmay? I can certainly help-9892622230.Sent from my iPhoneOn 27-Feb-2023, at 1:49 PM, Nikita Jain  wrote:'ꜱɪɢʜᴛᴇᴅ" ɪꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴏʀʀᴇᴄᴛ ꜱᴩᴇʟʟɪɴɢ. On Mon, 27 Feb, 2023, 13:13 Rahul Bhatia,  wrote:Hi Tanmay 
I can help 
On Mon, 27 Feb, 2023, 1:11 pm Tanmay Srivastava,  wrote:Hi all,As the subject line suggests that, I am in need of an accessibility tester who can explain it to a sited person.regardstanmay srivastava



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Re: [AI] New Divyangjan ID Portal of Indian Railways

[Amar Jain]

Harshit strictly disability certificate address. No permutation combinations 
allowed as the certificate gets verified.

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> On 21-Feb-2023, at 8:38 PM, Harshit Lohia  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> My permanent address and the hospital which issued my disability
> certificate is located in Uttar Pradesh. However, I am currently
> posted in Maharashtra. My employer which is a regulatory/statutory
> body has also issued to me 'letter of allotment' for the accomodation
> provided by it. So, can I use the said portal of Indian Railways in
> its current phase?
> 
>> On 2/21/23, Harshit Lohia  wrote:
>> Hi List members,
>> Many friends pronounce and write captcha as 'Capture'. The word
>> captcha is actually an abbreviation which stands for 'completely
>> automated public touring test to tell computers and humans apart'.
>> Hope this information is useful for all the esteemed members of this
>> list.
>> 
>>> On 2/21/23, sampath raj rao  wrote:
>>> Hi friends, greetings of the day...
>>> I was trying to fill in the form but found the site under maintenance
>>> since 16/02 evening.
>>> Hence I googled for the site and the found
>>> https://divyangjan-rail.in/Home/Index
>>> I registered and logged into it. I couldn't find the hospital name in
>>> the combo...
>>> Friends please check into the link and suggest your opinion.
>>> I doubt whether it may be the site for Northern zone as I find no name
>>> of the hospital from Tamilnadu.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/16/23, Ishant  wrote:
>>>> Thankyou Zoher sir.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb, 2023, 11:33 am Vishnu Ramchandani, <
>>>> vishnu.ramchand...@publicissapient.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> But as soon as I type father name, the dialog box pops up and unable to
>>>>> click on "ok" button with keyboard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Vishnu
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of sampath raj rao
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 10:34 PM
>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] New Divyangjan ID Portal of Indian Railways
>>>>> 
>>>>> External to the Groupe / en provenance de l'extérieur du Groupe
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Friends Greetings of the day...
>>>>> Glad to hear this...
>>>>> I just tried on the link and found the following...
>>>>> The five states available are: Tamilnadu, Andra, Telungana, Maharashtra
>>>>> and Karnataka.
>>>>> The capture is well read by Google image description, I logged in
>>>>> through
>>>>> this feature only.
>>>>> There is an option to download concession form format and to my
>>>>> surprise
>>>>> there was the option to apply for railway concession too.
>>>>> I tried into it and viewed the application page, everything is
>>>>> accessible
>>>>> but unfortunately my certificate is expired and I am yet to get a new
>>>>> one
>>>>> of which I wasn't able to move further.
>>>>> Only clarification I need is what to select in place of Railway
>>>>> concession
>>>>> issuing Railway station-hospital in this combo I was able to locate
>>>>> almost
>>>>> all the railway stations in our state. Whether I should go for the
>>>>> station
>>>>> near my house or the station near the hospital which provides me my
>>>>> certificate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanking you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/15/23, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> What are the five states available?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/15/23, Ved Prakash Sharma  wrote:
>>>>>>> I tried to create an account on the website. However, my state Delhi
>>>>>>> is not available in the list of five states presently available.
>>>>>>> Only
>>>>>>> OTP is required i think, to login.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/14/23, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>&g

[AI] Contribute to make BHIM accessible

[Amar Jain]

Hi all-interestingly I gave one rating to BHIM in its app and left the 
feedback that the app is inaccessible for persons with disabilities.


I got the call from the feedback team which frankly did not understand 
anything of what I said, but I made them note the GIGW name and they 
said that they will share this with developers. Whether or not it goes 
through as a single user feedback, but if we do raise this feedback in 
large quantity, I am sure it can have an impact if NPCI is indeed 
monitoring the feedback.


I would request each one of the member to please rate BHIM as one, and 
provide feedback that it is inaccessible for persons with disabilities 
and compliance with Guidelines for Indian Government Websites is needed.


Let's make it big in numbers and test if something indeed happens!

Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] RBI Global Hackathon invites proposals to design 'Innovative, easy-to-use, digital banking services for differently abled (Divyaang)'

[Amar Jain]

Apologies for multiple emails on this.

The actual problem statement for this category reads as: In order to 
empower the differently abled (Divyaang) people of the country with 
digital banking services, easy-to-use innovative solutions for digital 
banking services such as digital payments, account opening, account 
statement, payment of utility bills, usage of debit/credit cards, etc., 
may be explored. This would provide equal opportunity to the physically 
challenged without any discrimination and enable them access in availing 
financial services.


Source: 
https://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/content/pdfs/Harbinger2023_14022023.pdf


On 17/02/2023 16:19, Amar Jain wrote:


https://www.rbi.org.in/Scripts/BS_PressReleaseDisplay.aspx?prid=55218

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[AI] RBI Global Hackathon invites proposals to design 'Innovative, easy-to-use, digital banking services for differently abled (Divyaang)'

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Re: [AI] Re: Queries regarding the accessibility of the companion apps of the Smart Air Conditioners

[Amar Jain]

Unfortunately not too many choices are available
for an all weather AC Bharat-IOS is quite accessible as well.
On 16/02/2023 10:55, Bharat wrote:

One more thing which you may consider is to buy an 'all weather'
rather than just the ACs only for summers. Buying this kind of AC
would also eliminate the need for buying room heaters & blowers.

LG  ACs app is quite accessible  on the Android side. Really not too
sure of the IOS.

Thank you,

Bharat.

On 2/16/23, Amar Jain  wrote:
My strong recommendation will be that of LG, the latest model of 2023 
will
cost approximately 46000 without offers for a 1.5 ton split AC, for 
two

reasons: excellent accessibility and quality after sales service.

The other thing for non-smart ACs which you can try is to use infrared
remotes.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

On 15-Feb-2023, at 11:08 PM, Ajay Minocha  
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I use Panasonic, one cannot adjust the temperature from the 
application

for which I use Alexa or Google assistant
Another features are reasonablely accessible
Most of the other brands do not sell the smart iot enabled models in 
India


On Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 10:55 PM Rudraksh Garg 
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I forgot to add the name for Daikin too.
that is also in preference if the app is accessible

On 15/02/2023, Rudraksh Garg  wrote:
> Howdy all,
> I am in need of a brand new AC and want to go for the Smart ones which
> can be controlled with mobile apps as well as Alexa/Google assistant.
> I want to know that which brands have most accessible apps?
> I am aware about LG that their app is fully accessible but not sure
> about others.
> I'm mainly planning to buy Hetachi/IFB/Loyd/O General.
> Any ideas about the accessibility of the companion apps of these
> brands?
> Any suggested models?
> Help will be very appreciated.
> Thanking you.
>

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Re: [AI] Zomato not working with VoiceOver

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A lot of things are automate at their end and one design change has broken this. Also custom menus designed by merchants have also added to the problem.Given the season, they can’t make major changes to their code hence January.I know I can’t get accessibility professionals paid for this, but if someone can find major issues and let me know, I can get them addressed. Going forward, I hope QA to be more streamlined.Regards,Amar JainSent from my iPhoneOn 28-Dec-2022, at 11:42 PM, pratham.shubh...@gmail.com wrote:This is the same case in Android as well.So it’s not the problem which iOS users are facing only, android is not untouched with it.Sent from my iPhoneOn 28-Dec-2022, at 4:56 PM, 'aparna singhal' via AccessIndia  wrote:
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhoneOn Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 4:48 PM, Amar Jain  wrote:I am aware of it and it will be fixed in January. I am working with them to improve accessibility.Please feel free to keep sharing your feedback. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 28-Dec-2022, at 4:24 PM, 'aparna singhal' via AccessIndia  wrote:
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhonehi AllI have been using Zomato with VoiceOver comfortably for last one year but for last two months it has stopped workingNow VoiceOver does not read the menu items. neither it reads the address and coupons.Does anyone know the reason why Zomato has stopped working with VoiceOver and also if we have any ETA from Zomato for fixing these issuesThank youAparna singhal




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Re: [AI] Zomato not working with VoiceOver

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I am aware of it and it will be fixed in January. I am working with them to improve accessibility.Please feel free to keep sharing your feedback. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 28-Dec-2022, at 4:24 PM, 'aparna singhal' via AccessIndia  wrote:
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhonehi AllI have been using Zomato with VoiceOver comfortably for last one year but for last two months it has stopped workingNow VoiceOver does not read the menu items. neither it reads the address and coupons.Does anyone know the reason why Zomato has stopped working with VoiceOver and also if we have any ETA from Zomato for fixing these issuesThank youAparna singhal




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[AI] CCPD hearing against Paytm on December 29-inputs needed

[Amar Jain]

Dear all-the CCPD hearing on Paytm is on December 29th and I need 
quality inputs on accessibility for Android and IOS as due to 
unavoidable reasons I won't be able to do a good job before the hearing 
of testing the app.


Any help will be appreciated.

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Re: [AI] About accessibility of SAP

[Amar Jain]

There used to be Jaws Scripts for SAP in the market center of SAP and 
they needed to be specifically installed by the company. Check if that 
helps.


On 23/11/2022 12:13, Satvir Jogi wrote:

Hello Access Indians,
This mail is specifically for kriya’s query.
Yes I have used SAP and I didn’t find that accessible.
As I am a keyboard user, SAP is not accessible with keyboard.
You can contact me at 9768871719 for detailed discussion about it.

Thanks and Regards,
Satvir


On 11/23/22, Kriya Jain  wrote:

Hi all
Hope to find you in good health.
Is anyone on the list using or has used SAP?
If yes, kindly share your contact details. I have a few queries 
regarding

its accessibility.
Thanks in advance.

Regards
Kriya Jain

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Re: [AI] Congratulations to Abhishek Thakur

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Apoorv and Vidhya are other two I know!Sent from my iPhoneOn 12-Nov-2022, at 8:39 AM, Ved  wrote:Congrats to the member. We need such mebers on the list. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of prashant...@gmail.comSent: 11 November 2022 08:15 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: [AI] Congratulations to Abhishek Thakur I am pleased to inform that an AccessIndia member and Professor in Delhi School of Social Work Abhishek Thakur will be getting the National Award for Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities this year from President of India. He thoroughly deserves this recognition.  Congratulations to others who are also receiving the National Award this year.  Thanks,Prashant  -- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/06aa01d8f5dc%24346d53e0%249d47fba0%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: [AI] Congratulations to Abhishek Thakur

[Amar Jain]

Where is the list sir?

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 11-Nov-2022, at 8:25 PM, Sandeep Singh  wrote:
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> Many congratulations Abhishek ji
> 
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>> School of Social Work Abhishek Thakur will be getting the National Award
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>> He thoroughly deserves this recognition.
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Re: [AI] ICICI/HDFC who's internet banking is more accessible?

[Amar Jain]

Hi Minar-Purely from the internet banking perspective both are 
reasonably usable. However, I am aware of users facing problems with 
mobile app of ICICI.


I have been using HDFC and have not found a major hurdle.

Regards,
Amar Jain
On 31/10/2022 12:18, Minar Singh wrote:

Hi friends,
Please consider subject of this email and share your feedback. I'm
expecting reply from people using internet banking of ICICI/HDFC. I
have to select any of these services.

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Re: [AI] A few questions regarding SIP/MF platforms

[Amar Jain]

Mahesh-can I have your number? Let’s sort out this mess in one short for all.

I am reachable on 9892622230.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14-Oct-2022, at 5:13 AM, Minar Singh  wrote:
> 
> I will suggest to get KYC done before making any investment. One
> should not take risk in financial matters. It won't take much time.
> One can reach out bank branch with form fill it out and put a thumb
> impression in front of the branch manager and ask him to verify from
> your thumb impression stored in the bank database.
> 
>> On 10/13/22, Mahesh S. Panicker  wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I did try PhonePe as well. They also need you to sign on the screen as
>> part of the online KYC process. Thumb Impression does not get
>> registered, and if you just sign randumly, they would say signature
>> not verified and KYC not processed.
>> Incidentally, I had invested on an HDFC fund on PhonePe.
>> 
>>> On 10/13/22, Srinivasu Chakravarthula  wrote:
>>> Mahesh,
>>> I have signed up with both HDFC Mutual Fund and SBI Mutual Fund using
>>> online KYC without uploading any signature. I don't remember but HDFC may
>>> allow you to invest on other funds too and not just HDFC (again, I don't
>>> remember as I am not doing Mutual fund SIP with them) while on SBI MF,
>>> you
>>> can only transact with funds offered by SBI.
>>> 
>>> Try PhonePe under investment tab.
>>> 
>>> Also, for a while I have signed up with a professional Investment
>>> Advisory
>>> called FinAtoZ. If you are interested to chat with them, I can introduce,
>>> do reach out to me directly on sriniv...@srinivasu.org
>>> Best,
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA
>>> Website <http://www.srinivasu.org> | LinkedIn Profile
>>> <http://linkedin.com/in/srinivasuc> | Follow me on Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/csrinivasu>
>>> Director of Accessibility, Watermark <http://watermarkinsights.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 5:26 AM Tanmay Srivastava
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi sir,
>>>> 
>>>> What you can do is, firstly get a demat account in zerodha, thereafter
>>>> start your sip using coin app.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 13 Oct, 2022, 12:07 am Mahesh S. Panicker, <
>>>> maheshspanic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So heard back from Cleartax, not happening, unable to verify
>>>>> signature, so KYC rejected. Same with Phonepe too. I never thought
>>>>> starting a SIP would be this difficult, in this day and age! Really
>>>>> frustrating.
>>>>> What can be done now? Cleartax CC said contact CRA directly. Is there
>>>>> an option? I couldn't find one.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/9/22, Mahesh S. Panicker  wrote:
>>>>>> I have tried with Clear Tax, the kyc is pending... When doing it on
>>>>>> the app, it was asking to sign on the phone, and the thumb impression
>>>>>> was not being captured properly. So I then uploaded the image through
>>>>>> the web interface. Have to wait and see.
>>>>>> In the mean time, I spoke to PNB, their mutual fund partner executive
>>>>>> was called into the branch, and on checking with his senior
>>>>>> executive,
>>>>>> he told me that I have to fill the physical form in the presence of a
>>>>>> notary and varify the thumb impression by the notary.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/6/22, Muhammad Mishbahul  wrote:
>>>>>>> I am doing systematic investment plan through clear tax. There I
>>>>> uploaded
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> thumb, and did ekyc  through. aadhar
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 06-Oct-2022, at 1:36 AM, kota prabhu 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> when i  registered with groww more than a  year ago, it was very
>>>>> easy.
>>>>>>>> if the registration process is not changed then, its extremely easy
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> register there.
>>>>>>>> i  have always used onetime investment, sip registration should not
>>>>>

Re: [AI] Smart microwave ovens or instant pot

[Amar Jain]

So Pranav if I got this right, then Amazon Basics has Alexa integration. 
That is the only model it suggests. Is that right?


On 13/10/2022 17:27, Pranav Lal wrote:


Hi Amar,

A microwave oven is more versatile as compared to an instant pot. As 
for ones with alexa integration, see if any of the devices listed at 
the below link  are still available.


Best Buy Perfect Microwave Ovens in India (thegadgetsworld.in) [1]

I cannot answer your other queries. The trick with a microwave is the 
time. If you can select the right function and set the timer, you are 
sorted.


Pranav

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Subject: [AI] Smart microwave ovens or instant pot

Hi all,

Some guidance on a solo microwave oven without grilling or confection 
or an instant pot please?


A couple of questions:

1. Is Solo good enough for cooking, heating and reheating? Does a solo 
microwave come with maximum temperature protection? For instance LG 
doesn't have it. Is there any downside to this? And can rice be cooked 
as well in solo microwave oven?


2. Between a microwave oven and an instant pot, what would you 
recommend and why?


3. Are you aware of any smart microwave ovens having wifi or Alexa 
integration?


Regards,

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[AI] Smart microwave ovens or instant pot

[Amar Jain]

Hi all,

Some guidance on a solo microwave oven without grilling or confection or 
an instant pot please?


A couple of questions:

1. Is Solo good enough for cooking, heating and reheating? Does a solo 
microwave come with maximum temperature protection? For instance LG 
doesn't have it. Is there any downside to this? And can rice be cooked 
as well in solo microwave oven?


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and why?


3. Are you aware of any smart microwave ovens having wifi or Alexa 
integration?


Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Zomato Android and IOS

[Amar Jain]

Mohin-steps are underway to get that going.

Hitesh-what is the specific issue? Is it a particular restaurant or a universal 
issue? Share screen recording please.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 06-Oct-2022, at 11:44 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> Hi Amar, please take the issue of inaccessibility of Airtel thanks app
> as well. This is completely unusable with talkback
> 
>> On 10/6/22, Hitesh Thakkar  wrote:
>> Hi amar,
>> Still, we are not able to select an order from a particular section, like
>> main course, starters, recommended and etc.
>> It is very much easy in Swiggy.
>> I hope you have understood what I mean to say.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On 06-Oct-2022, at 9:24 PM, Maruti Paramwad  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi amar,
>>> 
>>> Greetings of the day!
>>> 
>>> Just updated the latest version and guess what? ‘Go to card.’ Now
>>> accessible. Thanks for the update.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>> PM
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 06-Oct-2022, at 3:30 PM, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bhaiya place an order for me  and share screen recording.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 06-Oct-2022, at 3:10 PM, Satguru Rathi 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Hi Amar,
>>>>> 
>>>>> One issue I often face while ordering food on Zomato is that once a
>>>>> delivery partner is assigned, app displays two options – Call and
>>>>> message but they are not read by the Talkback and one has to guess. This
>>>>> is tested on Oneplus 8 with Oxygen OS based on Android 12.1 and TB 13.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Satguru Rathi
>>>>> 
>>>>> Assistant Manager
>>>>> 
>>>>> [image: Logo of Baroda UP bank]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Main Branch - Bareilly
>>>>> 
>>>>> Contact: +919871489945
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>>>>>> I need feedback from users what are the open issues still. Some that I
>>>>>> have figured are in fixing stage.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please can few members download the latest builds, test and share their
>>>>>> feedback with me?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
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Re: [AI] Zomato Android and IOS

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Bhaiya place an order for me  and share screen recording.Sent from my iPhoneOn 06-Oct-2022, at 3:10 PM, Satguru Rathi  wrote:
  

  
  
Hi Amar,
  
  One issue I often face while ordering food on Zomato is that once
  a delivery partner is assigned, app displays two options – Call
  and message but they are not read by the Talkback and one has to
  guess. This is tested on Oneplus 8 with Oxygen OS based on Android
  12.1 and TB 13.
  


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  I need feedback from users what are the open issues still. Some
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  Please can few members download the latest builds, test and
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Re: [AI] Zomato Android and IOS

[Amar Jain]

Replying to both can you share a screen recording of your respective 
bugs? +91-9892622230.


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 06/10/2022 14:20, Maruti Paramwad wrote:


Hi amar,

Yesterday when I tried to book on zomato, view card button is not 
clickable. I tried multiple time but, no luck. Even with VoiceOver 
Recognition is also not working.


Thanks and Regards,
PM

Sent from my iPhone


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I need feedback from users what are the open issues still. Some that I 
have figured are in fixing stage.


Please can few members download the latest builds, test and share 
their feedback with me?


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[AI] Zomato Android and IOS

[Amar Jain]

I need feedback from users what are the open issues still. Some that I 
have figured are in fixing stage.


Please can few members download the latest builds, test and share their 
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Re: [AI] interesting, Digital Media Rights(DRM) - Analysis Of Copyright Law

[Amar Jain]

Quite interesting read and possible legal action to take here.

On 30/09/2022 11:19, Tanmay Srivastava wrote:


Hi all,

This article explores a disabled person's right to read by examining 
the existing copyright and disability laws in the USA, EU, and India.


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Re: [AI] Income tax Portal

[Amar Jain]

I have been filing independently since 2013. Post 2021 website and 
online utility have become a massive problem so I had to take help from 
a CA.


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 22/09/2022 19:09, Minar Singh wrote:

I had been filing using offline utility and some time using clear tax
portal. Please note: clear tax portal is different and Income Tax
portal is different. One can file using clear tax portal also.

On 9/22/22, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA  wrote:

Madam, I have been filing my IT return since 2014 independently. In
between there was a captcha issue in old e-filing portal, but, I could
manage it through internet banking of punjab national bank. Last year 
I

have filed my return through new e-filing portal and this year with
offline utility. There is a captcha while paying self assess or 
advance

tax through NSDL website.


On 9/22/2022 6:20 PM, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:


All,

I would like to know how many who was filing his/her own Income tax
Returns before 2021.

Please give details of from when you were filing your Returns and the
problems you have had since June 2021.

Please once again check the website now.

Thanks

Kanchan

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Re: [AI] CCPD hearing on digital inaccessibility: list of 74 apps/websites submitted

[Amar Jain]

Some of those we are already working with and few will be picked up soon 
as the list has already been submitted.


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 21/09/2022 10:06, Yogesh Chhabra wrote:

Dear amar, please shed some light on the sites and apps that i 
mentioned on my previous mail


On Wednesday, September 21, 2022, Amar Jain  
wrote:
All banks / financial institutions and anything that is regulated by 
RBI we are taking through the committee route.


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 21/09/2022 08:24, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia wrote:
Dear Sir,

canara bank website & indian bank website is also falling in this 
category.

Please consider them also.

On 9/21/22, Yogesh Chhabra  wrote:
There are some sites which i would like to mention that are not in the
list.
Edistrict delhi (captcha issue)
Sbi crm (captcha issue)
Iibf.org.in [1]
Hotstar
Star maker
Smule
Tata play android set top box
Money control app and website
Tinder
Gaana
Swiggy
Blinkit

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 6:15 PM Amar Jain  wrote:

We have omitted all the service providers with whom we are in 
discussion

and they are focussing on this aspect. Rappido is one of those. Thank
you.

On 20/09/2022 18:10, Avichal Bhatnagar wrote:

Hi,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Rapido is missing from the list.

On 9/20/22, Amena Kanchwala  wrote:

Hi Rahul, Amar and team,

It's a good job indeed. Hope it will bring remarkable positive 
change.

However, I have a small suggestion. I don't know whether it is
possible or
not, but can we demand enhancement of accessibility laws with respect
to
startups in the next hearing? Like, no funding should be given if
applications and websites of startups are not accessible, or to
provide
extra incentives if the same are accessible etc. Today's startups are
the
big giant companies of tomorrow. Companies like Procto, MMT, Zomato
etc
once used to be a startup. right?? And now we can see how difficult 
it

is
for them to alter the changes in terms of accessibility. If they have
considered accessibility from the initial stages, then now it 
wouldn't

be
so difficult. I firmly believe that accessibility should be 
considered

from
the stage of designing itself.

So, it will be good if we have some mechanism which regulates
accessibility
of startups as well.





Thanks and regards,

Amena





On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 3:11 PM Minar Singh 
wrote:


Hello,
Please consider youth for job portal also. I'm surprise to find that
this organisation is working for the empowerment of the Person's 
with

disabilities but they are having captcha on their website during
registration process. Here is the
linkhttps://www.youth4jobs.org/youth-registration.php [2]


On 9/20/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:

Dear Rahul and team


A splendid job indeed!


1 This definitely surfaces, that, the issue is widespread and that
these
list, is a small subset of a larger issue.

2 Maybe you should pray, that, there should be a structured
mechanism
where such issues is redressed rather than fire fighting individual
cases out here. The regulators should be held accountable and
responsible to handle them.


Harish


On 19/09/2022 22:15, Mission Accessibility wrote:

Hi All,

We have submitted the attached list to the CCPD. Irrespective of

what

happens, this is a mammoth effort. Our team members have worked
tirelessly
on this. This may be a real game-changer.

Warmly,
Rahul



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Re: [AI] CCPD hearing on digital inaccessibility: list of 74 apps/websites submitted

[Amar Jain]

All banks / financial institutions and anything that is regulated by RBI 
we are taking through the committee route.



Regards,
Amar Jain
On 21/09/2022 08:24, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia wrote:

Dear Sir,

canara bank website & indian bank website is also falling in this 
category.

Please consider them also.

On 9/21/22, Yogesh Chhabra  wrote:

There are some sites which i would like to mention that are not in the
list.
Edistrict delhi (captcha issue)
Sbi crm (captcha issue)
Iibf.org.in
Hotstar
Star maker
Smule
Tata play android set top box
Money control app and website
Tinder
Gaana
Swiggy
Blinkit

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 6:15 PM Amar Jain  wrote:

We have omitted all the service providers with whom we are in 
discussion

and they are focussing on this aspect. Rappido is one of those. Thank
you.

On 20/09/2022 18:10, Avichal Bhatnagar wrote:
> Hi,
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Rapido is missing from the list.
>
> On 9/20/22, Amena Kanchwala  wrote:
>> Hi Rahul, Amar and team,
>>
>> It’s a good job indeed. Hope it will bring remarkable positive change.
>> However, I have a small suggestion. I don’t know whether it is
>> possible or
>> not, but can we demand enhancement of accessibility laws with respect
>> to
>> startups in the next hearing? Like, no funding should be given if
>> applications and websites of startups are not accessible, or to
>> provide
>> extra incentives if the same are accessible etc. Today's startups are
>> the
>> big giant companies of tomorrow. Companies like Procto, MMT, Zomato
>> etc
>> once used to be a startup. right?? And now we can see how difficult it
>> is
>> for them to alter the changes in terms of accessibility. If they have
>> considered accessibility from the initial stages, then now it wouldn’t
>> be
>> so difficult. I firmly believe that accessibility should be considered
>> from
>> the stage of designing itself.
>>
>> So, it will be good if we have some mechanism which regulates
>> accessibility
>> of startups as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Amena
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 3:11 PM Minar Singh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Please consider youth for job portal also. I'm surprise to find that
>>> this organisation is working for the empowerment of the Person's with
>>> disabilities but they are having captcha on their website during
>>> registration process. Here is the
>>> linkhttps://www.youth4jobs.org/youth-registration.php
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/20/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:
>>> > Dear Rahul and team
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > A splendid job indeed!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 1 This definitely surfaces, that, the issue is widespread and that
>>> > these
>>> > list, is a small subset of a larger issue.
>>> >
>>> > 2 Maybe you should pray, that, there should be a structured
>>> > mechanism
>>> > where such issues is redressed rather than fire fighting individual
>>> > cases out here. The regulators should be held accountable and
>>> > responsible to handle them.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Harish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 19/09/2022 22:15, Mission Accessibility wrote:
>>> >> Hi All,
>>> >>
>>> >> We have submitted the attached list to the CCPD. Irrespective of
what
>>> >> happens, this is a mammoth effort. Our team members have worked
>>> >> tirelessly
>>> >> on this. This may be a real game-changer.
>>> >>
>>> >> Warmly,
>>> >> Rahul
>>> >>
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Re: [AI] Spreadsheet shared with you: "Inaccessible Applications/Websites "

[Amar Jain]

Let me try and get an update.Sent from my iPhoneOn 20-Sep-2022, at 9:42 PM, Maruti Paramwad  wrote:Hi Amar,Greetings!Thanks for the reply! To whom i have to contact to know about the progress?Thanks and RegardsPNSent from my iPhoneOn 20-Sep-2022, at 3:59 PM, Amar Jain  wrote:
Nab center for women in Delhi has already taken it up with IRCTC.
 


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 20/09/2022 15:57, Maruti Paramwad wrote:


Please include IRCTC app and website also. Both have accessibility issues on iOS as well as on Android.
 
Thanks and Regards,
PM
Sent from my iPhone

On 20-Sep-2022, at 11:06 AM, Mission Accessibility  wrote:




 

We have covered money control. 

 
Get Outlook for iOS



From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf of sumanth s Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:03:48 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Spreadsheet shared with you: "Inaccessible Applications/Websites "
 


Hello,The website of money control is also in accessiblehttps://www.moneycontrol.com Moneycontrol, , link


On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 4:46 PM vikas shivsharan <drvikas2610...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bhim  app


On Sun, 18 Sep, 2022, 3:45 pm Srinivas Karnati, <srinivas.carn...@gmail.com> wrote:






Good evening to all my dear access India  friends. 

 

My name is Srinivas and I am working as a teacher in Telangana state. I use Hello BPCL app to book Bharat Gas cylinder. Friends I am facing problem in this app.

 

 After opening the app, while exploring, talk back speaks things other than what is on the screen.

 

Have any of you used this app?

 

Can you tell me if you are also facing this problem.

 

Friends we have many technical experts in our group. Any one of you please review this app, identify accessibility issues and

 

Submit a representation to the authorities concern to resolve this problem.

 

Thanking you,

 

Srinivas Karnati

 

Telangana State

 


 




On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, 2:34 pm Mission Accessibility (via Google Sheets), <missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> wrote:














Mission Accessibility shared a spreadsheet







Mission Accessibility (missionaccessibil...@gmail.com) has invited you to edit the following spreadsheet:
Hi all. This is the sheet that MA is preparing for the CCPD hearing on Tuesday. It contains the names of around 60 inaccessible apps/websites. If you have any apps or websites in mind that are not covered, please do say so via email. Do not edit the sheet yourself, as that will make it haphazard. We will submit to the COmmissioner tomorrow.








Inaccessible Applications/Websites 







 



Open











Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USAYou have received this email because  missionaccessibil...@gmail.com shared a spreadsheet with you from Google Sheets.


















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Re: [AI] CCPD hearing on digital inaccessibility: list of 74 apps/websites submitted

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We have omitted all the service providers with whom we are in discussion 
and they are focussing on this aspect. Rappido is one of those. Thank 
you.


On 20/09/2022 18:10, Avichal Bhatnagar wrote:

Hi,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Rapido is missing from the list.

On 9/20/22, Amena Kanchwala  wrote:

Hi Rahul, Amar and team,

It’s a good job indeed. Hope it will bring remarkable positive change.
However, I have a small suggestion. I don’t know whether it is 
possible or
not, but can we demand enhancement of accessibility laws with respect 
to

startups in the next hearing? Like, no funding should be given if
applications and websites of startups are not accessible, or to 
provide
extra incentives if the same are accessible etc. Today's startups are 
the
big giant companies of tomorrow. Companies like Procto, MMT, Zomato 
etc
once used to be a startup. right?? And now we can see how difficult it 
is

for them to alter the changes in terms of accessibility. If they have
considered accessibility from the initial stages, then now it wouldn’t 
be
so difficult. I firmly believe that accessibility should be considered 
from

the stage of designing itself.

So, it will be good if we have some mechanism which regulates 
accessibility

of startups as well.





Thanks and regards,

Amena





On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 3:11 PM Minar Singh  
wrote:



Hello,
Please consider youth for job portal also. I'm surprise to find that
this organisation is working for the empowerment of the Person's with
disabilities but they are having captcha on their website during
registration process. Here is the
linkhttps://www.youth4jobs.org/youth-registration.php


On 9/20/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:
> Dear Rahul and team
>
>
> A splendid job indeed!
>
>
> 1 This definitely surfaces, that, the issue is widespread and that
> these
> list, is a small subset of a larger issue.
>
> 2 Maybe you should pray, that, there should be a structured mechanism
> where such issues is redressed rather than fire fighting individual
> cases out here. The regulators should be held accountable and
> responsible to handle them.
>
>
> Harish
>
>
> On 19/09/2022 22:15, Mission Accessibility wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We have submitted the attached list to the CCPD. Irrespective of what
>> happens, this is a mammoth effort. Our team members have worked
>> tirelessly
>> on this. This may be a real game-changer.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Rahul
>>
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Re: [AI] CCPD hearing on digital inaccessibility: list of 74 apps/websites submitted

[Amar Jain]

Hi Amena,

Valid point-and to answer it legally, the startups are already covered 
by the definition of establishments (majority of them).


No matter whatever the startup be, the legal existence of the startup is 
likely to be in form of a company, or a firm. To that extent, the 
definition of establishments already covers them. Only problem which we 
are likely to face is the limited liability partnership-which also, 
legally should not be difficult to argue as it should fall in the 
category of a firm.


As far as rewards and punishments are concerned, while the law provides 
for penalty, but it would be indeed hard for us to legally provide that 
for being eligible to receive funding, a startup must be compliant with 
a particular law. That is a question of diligence that investors have to 
perform. And for instance with large investors, it is very difficult to 
secure funding if you are non-compliant with any environmental law to 
illustrate. So we somewhere need to get disability law's importance 
realised in that context through the judicial work that we all are 
trying to do.


Regards,

Amar Jain

On 20/09/2022 16:45, Amena Kanchwala wrote:


Hi Rahul, Amar and team,

It's a good job indeed. Hope it will bring remarkable positive change. 
However, I have a small suggestion. I don't know whether it is possible 
or not, but can we demand enhancement of accessibility laws with 
respect to startups in the next hearing? Like, no funding should be 
given if applications and websites of startups are not accessible, or 
to provide extra incentives if the same are accessible etc. Today's 
startups are the big giant companies of tomorrow. Companies like 
Procto, MMT, Zomato etc once used to be a startup. right?? And now we 
can see how difficult it is for them to alter the changes in terms of 
accessibility. If they have considered accessibility from the initial 
stages, then now it wouldn't be so difficult. I firmly believe that 
accessibility should be considered from the stage of designing itself.


So, it will be good if we have some mechanism which regulates 
accessibility of startups as well.


Thanks and regards,

Amena

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 3:11 PM Minar Singh  
wrote:



Hello,
Please consider youth for job portal also. I'm surprise to find that
this organisation is working for the empowerment of the Person's with
disabilities but they are having captcha on their website during
registration process. Here is the
linkhttps://www.youth4jobs.org/youth-registration.php [1]

On 9/20/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:

Dear Rahul and team


A splendid job indeed!


1 This definitely surfaces, that, the issue is widespread and that 
these

list, is a small subset of a larger issue.

2 Maybe you should pray, that, there should be a structured mechanism
where such issues is redressed rather than fire fighting individual
cases out here. The regulators should be held accountable and
responsible to handle them.


Harish


On 19/09/2022 22:15, Mission Accessibility wrote:

Hi All,

We have submitted the attached list to the CCPD. Irrespective of 
what

happens, this is a mammoth effort. Our team members have worked
tirelessly
on this. This may be a real game-changer.

Warmly,
Rahul



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Re: [AI] Spreadsheet shared with you: "Inaccessible Applications/Websites "

[Amar Jain]

Nab center for women in Delhi has already taken it up with IRCTC.

Regards,

Amar Jain

On 20/09/2022 15:57, Maruti Paramwad wrote:

Please include IRCTC app and website also. Both have accessibility 
issues on iOS as well as on Android.


Thanks and Regards,
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On 20-Sep-2022, at 11:06 AM, Mission Accessibility 
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We have covered money control.

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Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:03:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Subject: Re: [AI] Spreadsheet shared with you: "Inaccessible 
Applications/Websites "


Hello,
The website of money control is also in accessible
https://www.moneycontrol.com Moneycontrol, , link

On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 4:46 PM vikas shivsharan 
 wrote:

Bhim  app

On Sun, 18 Sep, 2022, 3:45 pm Srinivas Karnati, 
 wrote:


Good evening to all my dear access India  friends.

My name is Srinivas and I am working as a teacher in Telangana state. I 
use Hello BPCL app to book Bharat Gas cylinder. Friends I am facing 
problem in this app.


After opening the app, while exploring, talk back speaks things other 
than what is on the screen.


Have any of you used this app?

Can you tell me if you are also facing this problem.

Friends we have many technical experts in our group. Any one of you 
please review this app, identify accessibility issues and


Submit a representation to the authorities concern to resolve this 
problem.


Thanking you,

Srinivas Karnati

Telangana State

On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, 2:34 pm Mission Accessibility (via Google Sheets), 
 wrote:


Mission Accessibility shared a spreadsheet

Mission Accessibility (missionaccessibil...@gmail.com) has invited you 
to edit the following spreadsheet:
Hi all. This is the sheet that MA is preparing for the CCPD hearing on 
Tuesday. It contains the names of around 60 inaccessible apps/websites. 
If you have any apps or websites in mind that are not covered, please 
do say so via email. Do not edit the sheet yourself, as that will make 
it haphazard. We will submit to the COmmissioner tomorrow.


Inaccessible Applications/Websites

Open [2]

Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA
You have received this email because missionaccessibil...@gmail.com 
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Re: [AI] CCPD hearing on digital inaccessibility: list of 74 apps/websites submitted

[Amar Jain]

UIDAI for captcha right? We have taken that up as a separate item in the 
list of websites having captcha specifically as an issue.


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 20/09/2022 12:57, Gajender Singh wrote:

hello all,
the issue of website of unique identification authority of India is 
missing.

my humble request to mission accessibility team is to throw light upon
on this issue.
if you need a collaboration from my side, I will definitely help you.
with best regards,
gajender

On 9/20/22, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia
 wrote:

Absolutely Harish,
I am keying on knowing what is the consequence for non-compliance?
I am afraid that high penalty is triggering point of readiness for
compliance.
thanks and regards
Asif


On 9/20/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:

Dear Rahul and team


A splendid job indeed!


1 This definitely surfaces, that, the issue is widespread and that 
these

list, is a small subset of a larger issue.

2 Maybe you should pray, that, there should be a structured mechanism
where such issues is redressed rather than fire fighting individual
cases out here. The regulators should be held accountable and
responsible to handle them.


Harish


On 19/09/2022 22:15, Mission Accessibility wrote:

Hi All,

We have submitted the attached list to the CCPD. Irrespective of 
what

happens, this is a mammoth effort. Our team members have worked
tirelessly
on this. This may be a real game-changer.

Warmly,
Rahul



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Re: [AI] CCPD hearing on digital inaccessibility: list of 74 apps/websites submitted

[Amar Jain]

Dear sir-the second point is indeed part of the prayers that we will be 
asking for. Essentially to direct regulators and ministries to issue 
circular for compliance with accessibility standards for their 
respective sector.


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 20/09/2022 10:34, Harish Kotian wrote:

Dear Rahul and team


A splendid job indeed!


1 This definitely surfaces, that, the issue is widespread and that
these list, is a small subset of a larger issue.

2 Maybe you should pray, that, there should be a structured mechanism
where such issues is redressed rather than fire fighting individual
cases out here. The regulators should be held accountable and
responsible to handle them.


Harish


On 19/09/2022 22:15, Mission Accessibility wrote:

Hi All,

We have submitted the attached list to the CCPD. Irrespective of what
happens, this is a mammoth effort. Our team members have worked 
tirelessly

on this. This may be a real game-changer.

Warmly,
Rahul



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Re: [AI] Highlight all Paytm accessibility issues

[Amar Jain]

I am able to open.

Airtel thanks is picked up-see Rahul’s email on the list submitted to CCPD.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 19-Sep-2022, at 11:47 PM, kota prabhu  wrote:
> 
> I  like to know whether I  am the only one facing the following issue
> or everyone else?
> when I  open paytm menu by double tapping on view your paytm profile
> button,  I  find many options like paytm profile, cashback and offers,
> help and so on.
> I  am able to open any submenu there, but not able to click the items
> in those submenus by double tapping.
> for example, I  can double tap on the item "profile settings, profile,
> addresses, security and privacy"
> but after double tapping on the item security and privacy, it wont work.
> 
> 
>> On 19/09/2022, Sandesh  wrote:
>> Nicely put entire Paytm accessibility keeping Android perspective in limited
>> 
>> words.
>> 
>> Really great!
>> 
>> Vande Mataram
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sunil Sangtani." 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 12:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Highlight all Paytm accessibility issues
>> 
>> 
>>> hi amar,
>>> they should be punished for filing missleading information.
>>> anyways,
>>> some of the things i remember quickly sharing here:
>>> icons on the home screen are parcially  accessible, many of the offer
>>> bannors controls are assigned numaric values that makes impossible for
>>> us to identify the control,
>>> you can not share the payment receit with others easyly, buttons are
>>> not correctly labeled,
>>> while you are going to pay postpayed bills, you can not  read payment
>>> gateway
>>> to enter OTP,
>>> .
>>> so in a nutshell  its useable but not fully accessible in android.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/17/22, Harshit Lohia  wrote:
>>>> Hi Amar,
>>>> The login screen of PayTm app on iPhone is completely accessible.
>>>> Since my registered number on PayTm is currently on another mobile, I
>>>> could not complete the login process as the app has implemented device
>>>> binding. Can you please confirm if device binding works with eSIM also
>>>> as my registered number has to be converted into eSIM for use on
>>>> iPhone?
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/16/22, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>>>> The general interface of Paytm maybe ok, but the banking segment of it
>>>>> is just horrible. You cannot even edit/modify your own profile. While
>>>>> finalising the payment on its UPI platform, it is very difficult to
>>>>> figure out as to which bank is selected for your payment. Overall,
>>>>> while certain things can surely be manageable, it can never ever be
>>>>> branded as an accessible app on Android platform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16/09/2022, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paytm has filed a reply in CCPD claiming that they are accessible for
>>>>>> persons with disabilities.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I cannot handle it alone as the app is so huge. Request each one of
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> to:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Check the app as of today (download the latest version);
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. Send me every issue that you encounter;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. Email me all of it by September 23, 2022.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Amar Jain
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[AI] Highlight all Paytm accessibility issues

[Amar Jain]

Hi all,

Paytm has filed a reply in CCPD claiming that they are accessible for 
persons with disabilities.


I cannot handle it alone as the app is so huge. Request each one of you 
to:


1. Check the app as of today (download the latest version);

2. Send me every issue that you encounter;

3. Email me all of it by September 23, 2022.

Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Re: Income tax portal testing/simulation

[Amar Jain]

Not forgot as this was purely a technical call so didn’t think it would be 
worth your time bhaiya.

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> On 15-Sep-2022, at 5:00 PM, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Amar,
> Guess you forgot me to include in this call.  haha.
> If you recall; I introduce you to income tax efiling team and infosys
> subsequently because of our existing relationship with Pwc.  We worked
> on eFiling 1.0 which was largely accessible but now current UI is
> sadly inaccessible.
> Thanks and will join the call.
> Wish team all the best with this initiative.
> Asif
> 
>> On 9/15/22, Amar Jain  wrote:
>> Let's use Teams please.
>> 
>> I am including Vasu bhaiya to this email threat.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>>> On 15/09/2022 16:44, Minar Singh wrote:
>>> I think MS team or google meet will work for everyone. I haven't used
>>> webex
>>> 
>>> On 9/15/22, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>>>> Jeegar, Minar, amar, Vasu,  Ved Rahul
>>>> 
>>>> And last call for anyone else wanting to try.
>>>> 
>>>> The call is fixed for 14.00 ie 2pm on Saturday 17th September with
>>>> Infosys.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1.   Will webex work
>>>> 
>>>> 2.   Please send me your mobile nos on or off this list for
>>>> coordination
>>>> purposes.
>>>> 
>>>> 3.   You are testing Form 1 and 4 only. Please ensure that you
>>>> check
>>>> other links as well and please give me your independent feedback when
>>>> you
>>>> finish.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> 
>>>> Kanchan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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