there are issues...
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15
AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re:
March 4, 2021 9:15 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
If the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always tilted,
maybe they just need to make a thin layer of water to get it to
slide off?
bp
On 3/4/2021 5:31 AM,
hem. I am still hopeful that there are
issues...
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
If the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always tilted, maybe
they just need to make a thin layer of wa
not underestimate
> them. I am still hopeful that there are issues...
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>
>
> If the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always t
hings have?
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:11 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>
>
> I wonder if it's a matter of how long of a melt process you're willing to
> accept.
>
> Like maybe 100W ke
art people. People smart
enough to land a buck rogers rocket on its tail feathers. I would not
underestimate them. I am still hopeful that there are issues...
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
are issues...
From: Bill
Prince
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
If the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always tilted, maybe they just
need to make a thin layer of water to get it to slide off?
bp
On 3/4/2021 5:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote
supply do these things have?
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:11 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
I wonder if it's a matter of how long of a melt process you're willing to
accept.
Like maybe 100W keeps the dish clean, but maybe 10W
.net
From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: "af" , "Steve Jones"
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 8:03:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
He's trying to lan
some power. Heavy snow or ice storms. I tried to
build heated radomes for a while. Takes like 100 watts to do it right
or more.
*From:* Steven Kenney
*Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:31 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
Found this interesting tidbit I didnt know
to do it right or
> more.
>
> *From:* Steven Kenney
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:31 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>
> Found this interesting tidbit I didnt know about
>
> *Snow Melt Mode*
> Deployed basic Snow Melt Mode, du
That is gonna take some power. Heavy snow or ice storms. I tried to build
heated radomes for a while. Takes like 100 watts to do it right or more.
From: Steven Kenney
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:31 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
Found this interesting
e St. N | Leamington ON
E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
W: www.wavedirect.net
From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: "af" , "Steve Jones"
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 8:03:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
He's trying to land a Methane fill
m>> wrote:
Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
From your mouth to God's ears Ch
Ha...
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 3:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
>> Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re
Ha...
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 3:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
&
Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>From your mouth to God's ears Chuck on Covid-19... unfortunately it's going to
>take
Calix GPON... ;-)
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
What technology do you utilize to deliver a 100+ mbps to residential subs? Or
is that not what they will offer when beta is done
always an optimist. BTW, Covid will be done in a month...
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>>
>> Starlink *BETA* . Ma
n Stanners
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>
> Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few hundred, or a
> thousand, customers on each bird to prepare for when it's ac
be done in a month...
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>>
>> Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few
croach on the better served areas too
> much. I am always an optimist. BTW, Covid will be done in a month...
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>
> S
Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
>
> Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few hundred, or a
> thousand, customers on each bird to prepare for when it's actually busy.
> (based on the "20Gbps" capacity per sat)
>
> C
Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already
Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few hundred, or a
thousand, customers on each bird to prepare for when it's actually busy. (based
on the "20Gbps" capacity per sat)
Considering the amount
Yup... I'm hearing/seeing the same thing.
On 3/3/21 11:46 AM, Dev wrote:
Already hearing from folks who have the service that they’re seeing dips below
15Mbps, and this at light loads with few customers, we’ll see how this scales.
Or doesn’t. Are others in different geographies seeing
Until they get the constellation fleshed out; probably after 2021 (maybe
mid 2022?), I would not put too much credence in any numbers, big or small.
bp
On 3/3/2021 8:46 AM, Dev wrote:
Already hearing from folks who have the service that they’re seeing dips below
15Mbps, and this at light
Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few hundred, or a
thousand, customers on each bird to prepare for when it's actually busy.
(based on the "20Gbps" capacity per sat)
Considering the amount of effort and design that goes into such a massive
and complex system, people should be
Already hearing from folks who have the service that they’re seeing dips below
15Mbps, and this at light loads with few customers, we’ll see how this scales.
Or doesn’t. Are others in different geographies seeing similar?
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kef>
From: AF on behalf of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 8:43:07 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink: first come, first served
Available today!
>Depending on location, some orders may take 6 months or more t
Available today!
>Depending on location, some orders may take 6 months or more to fulfill
Very Apple-like. Stretching the meanings of words. Kind of like Unlimited
Verizon/Tmo/ATT.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu,
Definately not everywhere.
Starlink is targeting coverage in your area in mid to late 2021. You
will receive a notification once your Starlink is ready to ship.
On 2/18/21 9:25 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
The Starlink beta is now open to all on a first-come, first-served basis.
The Starlink beta is now open to all on a first-come, first-served basis.
Availability limited based on user density. Residental use only, no moving, no
sharing, no reselling, but no caps so far and IPv6.
Same $99/month plus ~$600 up front.
I'll be interesting to see how it performs as birds
ace
> 300+ms.
>
> On Feb 9, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
>
> Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink...
> just wondering...
>
> *From:* Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microw
Chuck! Go for it!
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink... just
wondering
/www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA>
> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
>
> *From: *AF on behalf of Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwav
ng) how hard it will be to jam starlink... just
> wondering...
>
> From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
>
> Ooo. Just saw another customer post on Facebook they ordere
Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink... just
wondering...
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
Ooo. Just saw another customer post on Facebook they ordered
alf of Josh Luthman
>
> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
>
> People are stupid and willing to suck up the Apple/Elon kool aid? I'm
> shocked.
>
> People think they need 50 m
AYVm3Fn970Jd6VA>
www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304
Guaynabo, PR 00968
From: AF on behalf of Josh Luthman
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
People are stupid and
; or two. As mentioned below, it is basically $600 to start and $99 a
> month. Will be interesting.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Coudron
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf
> Of *Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
nowledge in a week or two. As mentioned below, it is basically
$600 to start and $99 a month. Will be interesting.
Regards,
David Coudron
*From:*AF*On Behalf Of*Darin Steffl
*Sent:*Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First B
y $600 to start and $99 a month.
>> Will be interesting.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Coudron
>>
>> From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On
>> Behalf Of Darin Steffl
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM
>> To: A
to start and $99 a month. Will be interesting.
Regards,
David Coudron
*From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Darin Steffl
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
If he's truly surrounded by trees with no clear sky
. As
mentioned below, it is basically $600 to start and $99 a month. Will be
interesting.
Regards,
David Coudron
From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
If he's truly
If he's truly surrounded by trees with no clear sky like the Starlink app
shows with their VR overlay, he will likely have a poor experience with it
and maybe come back.
We always tell people canceling what their average usage is because we use
Preseem and most people rarely average more than 10
Got our first "Starlink" call today. Guy who's been a long term
customer - paying $90 for 50 megabits -- and getting that.
Says "I'd rather give my money to a local company than to Musk, but
those speeds. Any chance you'll be offering faster speeds?".
My only response was - if you truly
Yes, like a nice thunderstorm will take out DBS TV.
Launches cost nothing. It is all R experimental cost for SpaceX.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 3:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] starlink
Are you thinking about rain fade? I don't know what the rain
That doesn't much matter, unless you're intending to also be that high
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 4:14 PM Bill Prince wrote:
> Rain doesn't go that high.
>
>
> bp
>
>
> On 2/4/2021 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> I wonder if a nice wet thunderstorm will take down starlink?
>
> --
> AF
Are you thinking about rain fade? I don't know what the rain
density is as you go up in the atmosphere, but I think it should
become less and less as the altitude goes up. I'm sure someone has
figured this out; especially other satellite companies.
In the mean
Rain doesn't go that high.
bp
On 2/4/2021 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via
AF wrote:
I wonder if a nice wet thunderstorm will take down
starlink?
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f I have enough tachyons.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:25 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>>
>> Can you make the Kessel R
rowave Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> Can you make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:43 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Mi
If I have enough tachyons.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:25 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Can you make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs?
-Original
Can you make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs?
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
I have 13 mS to google
I have 13 mS to google.
-Original Message-
From: fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:32 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
I don't know about *anybody* who has 40 ms in-home latency. Normal in-home
latency
Just a heads up, that Youtube video is pure third party speculation and part of
that speculation is already known to be false.
Jared
From: "TJ Trout"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
htt
he Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *fiber...@mail.com
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday
- Original Message -
From: fiber...@mail.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 9:29:31 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
The first beta testers have received their UFOs and performance reports are
emerging. While download speeds
under *any* circumstances
get *any* subsidies. Other than that, I wish them well. From a purely
technological standpoint I find Starlink extremely cool.
Jared
> From: "Ken Hohhof"
> To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency h
The Starlink app measures latency to what I believe is either the first hop or
the closest ground station.
Jared
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Also, speedtests are in
100 ms.
Jared
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Never underestimate how bad an average consumer can mess up speedtest results.
The ONLY valid way is to hardwire directly to
If I worked at Hughesnet right now I would be looking to jump ship.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:01 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
We're obsessing over the wide
Oh no, my ping is only 15,
it used to be 500 with Hughesnet.
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:29 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
1/3/15 ms. How is that relevant?
Jar
, November 3, 2020 9:32 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Are you claiming the speed of light in vacuum is fake news now?
Jared
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to
gt; Jared
>>
>>
>> > From: "Bill Prince"
>> > To: af@af.afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>> >
>> > We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time everyone is
;
> Jared
>
>
> > From: "Bill Prince"
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
> >
> > We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time everyone is
> > blowing smoke.
Are you claiming the speed of light in vacuum is fake news now?
Jared
> From: "Bill Prince"
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time ev
1/3/15 ms. How is that relevant?
Jared
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2020 at 11:20 AM
> From: "Ken Hohhof"
> To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> And what is the min/avg/m
We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time everyone is
blowing smoke.
bp
On 11/3/2020 7:57 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
I call that BS. It
And what is the min/avg/max latency over typical home WiFi from router to
device?
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:06 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Yes, I've seen
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
> What I'm saying is if you can average 20ms and 1 out of 100 pings spikes
> higher, it will not make a huge difference in performan
m]>
To: af@af.afmug.com[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> I call that BS. It means they can route the traffic to the nearest end
> point. I think it will make a massive difference.
You can call BS all day long til you
The latency figures reported so far have been measured during coverage periods.
As such adding satellites won't help. You'd actually have to improve the
tracking and routing to make a difference.
Jared
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
they're targeting
double that number per launch.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:52 AM wrote:
> From: "Darin Steffl"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> > It will only get better and
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> I call that BS. It means they can route the traffic to the nearest end
> point. I think it will make a massive difference.
You can call BS all day long til you a
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
> It will only get better and they're targeting less than 20ms next year.
There have been previous reports of best case latencies of 20 ms
ubject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Yeah. It's beta. They have no where near their full constellation AND they do
not have their sat-sat interlink working yet. The jury is still out, and it is
way too early to be passing judgement yet.
bp
On 11/3/2020 7:35
Space lasers won't affect end user minimum latency.
Jared
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Yeah. It's beta. They have no where near their full constellation AND they do
not have their sat-sat interlink w
Yeah, they have an AR app which you can use to check your location for
obstructions.
Jared
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> One report yesterday said if you are near trees you have prob
Yeah. It's beta. They have no where near their full constellation
AND they do not have their sat-sat interlink working yet. The jury
is still out, and it is way too early to be passing judgement yet.
bp
On 11/3/2020 7:35 AM, Darin Steffl
wrote:
Keep in mind they don't have enough satellites launched yet for full
coverage. It's moderate coverage. Their beta invites specifically say that
they can expect interruptions and periods of downtime until more satellites
are launched and reach their desired orbits.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 9:35 AM
This is BETA!
It will only get better and they're targeting less than 20ms next year.
Averages are about 40ms now so they're well below the 100ms threshold on
average which is what matters, not the couple pings that are higher.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 9:30 AM wrote:
> The first beta testers have
One report yesterday said if you are near trees you have problems. You need
lots of unobstructed sky for it work work well.
-Original Message-
From: fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:29 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up
The first beta testers have received their UFOs and performance reports are
emerging. While download speeds are respectable on an empty network, Starlink's
main weakness is its highly variable latency.
Typical beta user minimum latencies are in the mid 30ies with very high
variability. Ping
That makes some sense to me. They need to price it high enough to tamp
down demand until they get their constellation populated. Full
deployment may take some time; even launching 60 at a time. If they get
the BFR operating, rumor is they could launch 300 at a time. This will
be fun to watch
.
Jared
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $99/month
>
> Have to keep telling myself why people will prefer fiber over Starlink:
> Trees
> Snow
> Visual a
We can bond a few and use for secondary uplink... Smacks of 20 years ago and
using a cable modem to start a Wisp.
From: Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:21 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $99/month
I had guessed Starlink would start
---
> From: fiber...@mail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:44 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $99/month
>
> I don't think Starlink will go in for predatory pricing. They have more
> customers than they can handle and I'd say they have a strong upward
: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:44 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $99/month
I don't think Starlink will go in for predatory pricing. They have more
customers than they can handle and I'd say they have a strong upward pricing
pressure rather than the opposite.
However, things
of government subsidies.
Jared
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $99/month
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> Damn, that is close to what I charge. I give 500 Mbps for that price
> but I hope they don't start predatory pricin
subsidies.
Jared
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $99/month
>
> Damn, that is close to what I charge. I give 500 Mbps for that price but I
> hope they don't start predatory pricing.
>
> -Or
SpaceX Starlink public beta begins: It’s $99 a month plus $500 up front
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/10/spacex-starlink-public-beta-begins-its-99-a-month-plus-500-up-front/
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Damn, that is close to what I charge. I give 500 Mbps for that price but I
hope they don't start predatory pricing.
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From: fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:27 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Starlink $99/month
SpaceX Starlink public beta
Another set of results...
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/08/spacex-starlink-beta-tests-show-speeds-up-to-60mbps-latency-as-low-as-31ms/
So the altitude is put at approx 500km/300miles.. I wonder what power
levels the xmitters are at for that distance. Of course they
ay depend on price. And what
> early adopters think of it. Most sales in our area are through
> word-of-mouth. The Facebook moms will make or break you.
>
>
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>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2020 9:22 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave U
. The
Facebook moms will make or break you.
From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 9:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] starlink speed test results!
My only real concern is loose state and federal funding eligibility. Not the
buildout
My only real concern is loose state and federal funding eligibility. Not
the buildout, but the monthly service cost. Our governor here offered the
buildout dough on top of the caf buildout areas, more rules, same areas.
With internet as a utility mindset, there is no telling how much money the
Am I the only one that realizes there are pretty much no users on this
network at this point? Besides the latency, wouldn't already existing
satellite do these kinds of speeds with <1% of their current user base?
What happens when we get 100s or 1000s of people on these satellites?
A Ubnt AP
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