Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-07 Thread Chuck Hogg
That's an example... Regards, Chuck On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > BMG = BMG Rights Management? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:00 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-07 Thread Rory Conaway
I’m almost done doing that. This should be interesting. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:55 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor Change your ssid and hide it... On

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
Change your ssid and hide it... On Mar 7, 2016 9:05 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Received disassoc from 04:18:d6:e4:c0:15. Reason: Disassociated because > sending STA is leaving (or has left) BSS (8). > > Feb 13 07:17:43 wireless: ath0 STA-TRAFFIC-STAT

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Yeah, lots of price changes. I buy most SFP. SFP+ from them now, I like the ease of ordering DDM or extra temp rated, or compatibility modded etc. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 9:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Jason McKemie
There used to be a drop down for DDM / temp / etc. The only options I see now are connector and compatibility. Looks like they have separate items for DDM / DOM and temp now. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Yeah, lots of price changes. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Jason McKemie
It looks like Fiberstore dropped their bidi SFP prices - about half what they were in December. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Fiberstore is apparently cheaper for a lot of the LC to LC cables I just > ordered. Like half the price of

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Fiberstore is apparently cheaper for a lot of the LC to LC cables I just ordered. Like half the price of ecablemart. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-07 Thread George Skorup
The watchdog thing is definitely tied to temperature. Haven't seen a single AP reset in days now. It'll be 65 tomorrow! Then I'm sure it'll get below zero again and snow a foot before we get spring for real. :( Will 30MHz on the regular 450 be available in the 5.4 band? Or will that require a

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-07 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Aaron hasn’t jumped on this one yet… so let me. We’ll have a new open beta build of 14.1.2 out late this week (Friday). We have high confidence that this will eliminate the watchdog. Among other things, it rolls in ALL of the 13.4.1 benefits and fixes (including the RADIUS issue you mention)

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-07 Thread Rory Conaway
Received disassoc from 04:18:d6:e4:c0:15. Reason: Disassociated because sending STA is leaving (or has left) BSS (8). Feb 13 07:17:43 wireless: ath0 STA-TRAFFIC-STAT mac=04:18:d6:e4:c0:15 rx_packets=633675 rx_bytes=116857546 tx_packets=2225222 tx_bytes=3041234063 Feb 13 07:17:43 wireless:

[AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-07 Thread Rory Conaway
I have a couple of customers off the same Ubiquiti Rocket 5 AP that have been having an issue the last couple days with going offline for a short time and then reconnecting and coming back online. I pull the logs on the AP and see a bunch of handshaking and several of these. I'm pretty sure

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Paul Stewart
The $4k a month seems really out of whack …. Does that include access to any huts or anything (space/power)? The IRU part varies greatly on the route/location/demand From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
Resources, labor cost, industry around it. Lots of rare earth metals that exist in that region of the world. Low labor cost compared to the US. On Mar 7, 2016 7:57 PM, "David Milholen" wrote: > My question why isnt America making this kind of stuff?? Why does china > get

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix SNMP support

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Baird
Yes, although their ifDescr/ifAlias is a little screwy. I have a "ticket" open on it. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > Does it give you full stats on each Ethernet port, 64bit counters? > > WS-10-250-AC > > > > Erich Kaiser > North Central

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread David Milholen
My question why isnt America making this kind of stuff?? Why does china get all the street cred? Rant: America has become immersed in how lazy we can be in my opinion. On 3/7/2016 5:33 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: the one thing that fiberstore does /not/ have the best prices on is fiber patch

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread David Milholen
They used the jet powered carrier pigeon :LOL On 3/7/2016 5:02 PM, Josh Baird wrote: They got an order to me (from China) in like 4 days. Normal shipping. I think that is pretty good. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Erich Kaiser

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread David Milholen
If you run ptp650 or higher we run fiber + Superior essex armored On 3/7/2016 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Then move the Toughcable over for DC power and run some fiber. *Dream* Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7,

[AFMUG] Netonix SNMP support

2016-03-07 Thread Erich Kaiser
Does it give you full stats on each Ethernet port, 64bit counters? WS-10-250-AC Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
When you purchase dark Fiber it can come in two forms a lease and an IRU. A lease is paid monthly and includes the right to use the fiber as well as any maintenance that needs to happen such as locates or repairs. A lease is an expense, not an asset. An IRU is a 20 year upfront payment priced

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
What's the $4K per month for, fixing fiber cuts? And it sounds like the $500K is for a 20 year lease, not to own it. For $4K per month O, they should wash, fluff and fold that fiber daily. -Original Message- From: Trey Scarborough Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:54 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Trey Scarborough
In California not to crazy. just depends on where it is. if its in rock or an urban area It could have cost a pretty penny to build. It as well could be on low strand count fiber so you have to eat more of the cost. I have seen a build in an urban environment be 500k a km. Its more likely

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Sterling Jacobson
It’s not unheard of. But it’s totally lame. I sat in a room with a rep from another fiber company and my construction guys once. It was a 14 mile run and they wanted some huge amount up front and $5k monthly for 10 years. I turned to my crew guys and asked how much to build 288 count fiber

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefeasible_rights_of_use -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC? That better be two strands for 192 route miles. -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
you're talking about buying an IRU, which is a whole other ball game. ask a telecom lawyer to explain to you what an IRU is? On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:23 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > They want $4k monthly "O" with a 500k "20 year IRU" > > Don't really understand this > > On Mon, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
That better be two strands for 192 route miles. -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 18:23:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 0 build

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
How far of a run? -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 18:23:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC? They want $4k

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread TJ Trout
They want $4k monthly "O" with a 500k "20 year IRU" Don't really understand this On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > 500k NRC is them saying to you "go away and stop bothering us any > further". > > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:33 PM, TJ Trout

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
500k NRC is them saying to you "go away and stop bothering us any further". On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:33 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > Local lec quoted me 4k mrc for 2 strands DF with a 500k NRC but no build > is involved? Is this legit? >

Re: [AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
The 500k sounds like the build cost - or the build was already done and now they have you paying for it. Also, depending on the length of the run, permitting, etc you may be able to contract it for less given $periodOfTime for ROI. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:33 PM, TJ Trout

[AFMUG] 0 build DF 500k NRC?

2016-03-07 Thread TJ Trout
Local lec quoted me 4k mrc for 2 strands DF with a 500k NRC but no build is involved? Is this legit?

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
the one thing that fiberstore does *not* have the best prices on is fiber patch cables... if you're buying a lot of LC-LC, SC-LC, SC-SC duplex 9/125 for in building cross connects, and patch cables in bulk from 0.2 meters up to 30 meters in length, you will see much better prices from

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread George Skorup
Same here. I think we did DHL on the first order and FedEx the second time. And I think FedEx was maybe a day faster. On 3/7/2016 5:02 PM, Josh Baird wrote: They got an order to me (from China) in like 4 days. Normal shipping. I think that is pretty good. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:01 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Erich Kaiser
We have bought a few dozen 10G and 1G optics and they work great. I am impressed with their packaging. As George said, if you have the time, FS is the way to go, although they have been much quicker on turning them around lately. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Baird
They got an order to me (from China) in like 4 days. Normal shipping. I think that is pretty good. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > We have bought a few dozen 10G and 1G optics and they work great. I am > impressed with their packaging. As

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread George Skorup
We bought some 20km 1G modules from FS.com. Shipped fast. No problem with them. They are identical to the MT modules. So why should I buy from MT for 3X the cost? Unless I need it like now, and Baltic has them, then we can swing by and pick them up. On 3/7/2016 3:53 PM, Josh Baird wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Circuit Drop Points

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
​"HEY GUYS, WHY ARE WE RUNNING FIBER PAST THE CARRIER HOTEL?" "IDGAF, KEEP BORING THAT WAY **(points toward random building surrounded by nothing)**"​ On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > You already know what's up with KC. :-\ > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

[AFMUG] 5780apus

2016-03-07 Thread jaldridge
Anybody have any interest in a couple 5780apus. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Circuit Drop Points

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
You already know what's up with KC. :-\ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 4:25:19 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Circuit Drop Points

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Image hosting sites are annoying, although imgur has the best meme generator. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Circuit Drop Points

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
Let me know when you get to KC :P On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > We are in the process of doing largely the same thing, but going in a > different direction. We're going St. Louis - Indy - Ashburn with the intent > to interconnect with Chuck in Indy.

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Circuit Drop Points

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Imgur.com Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2016 5:22 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > We are in the process of doing largely the same thing, but going in a > different direction. We're going St. Louis - Indy -

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Joe Novak
I definitely follow. Still important to find a half way reputable option for cheap optics :P On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > You guys should all pay more attention to reddit.com/r/networking , > NANOG, FISPA, packetpushers, etc. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Baird
I have been buying a lot from Fiberstore. They have been great, and shipping is cheap and fast (somehow). On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > I recently just purchased from Fiberstore.com... what is the public > reception of them? I am still a little hesitant

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20D and S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Sam Kirsch
We'd been buying Mikrotik 'branded' ones in order to avoid just the sort of issues we've been having with this last batch. We can see changes to the casing, fins, and even the circuit board in this last batch and very few scenarios work properly. Short distance CCR to CCR works ok, anything

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
You guys should all pay more attention to reddit.com/r/networking , NANOG, FISPA, packetpushers, etc. http://packetpushers.net/overpriced-optics-by-oems/ On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > I recently just purchased from Fiberstore.com... what is the public >

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20D and S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Or if you don't like Fiberstore for some reason, there's US-shipping ebay vendors that sell pretty much the same thing and ship from California... Look for the ones with 8000+ sales and high feedback. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Don’t buy

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Joe Novak
I recently just purchased from Fiberstore.com... what is the public reception of them? I am still a little hesitant but I'd feel a lot better if I was not the only one. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Same guys? They will take paypal, but then

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Same guys? They will take paypal, but then they have to pay for it. I don’t like them to pay for PayPal, so I just wire. Most times it costs me about $10 vs. their PayPal fee of over $100 dollars. I’m nice ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
I guess that's one way to look at it. The safest flight is the day after a plane crash. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > If anything, they're the

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If anything, they're the manufacturer doing the most quality control checks on their outdoor cable now... After their Chinese contract manufacturer ran off a whole series of counterfeit M series nanostations, and got sued, and their other contract manufacturer messed up the cable jacket, I'd bet

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Ya...after all that... =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Even after all that green ubiquiti cable shipped? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies,

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Jeremy
We use Shireen DC-1021 for everything. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Even after all that green ubiquiti cable shipped? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > On Mar 7, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Josh Luthman >

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Chuck McCown
I recently got some stuff from China and they took PayPal. Nice. No trip to the bank. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D? Don’t buy those. Get same/better

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20D and S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Don’t buy those. Get same/better units from fiberstore.com. In quantity I have a direct company in china I order from also, but you must wire transfer funds. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Kirsch Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 2:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Jon Langeler
Even after all that green ubiquiti cable shipped? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 7, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > 100% Ubiquiti Toughcable Carrier for a couple years now > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-07 Thread Sean Heskett
13.2.1 is in my opinion the latest and stable release for the PMP450 & PMP430. 13.4 has some radius and watchdog reset issues (amongst others) -sean On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > 14.1.2 is buggy. 13.4 seems stable >

[AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20D and S-35LC20D?

2016-03-07 Thread Sam Kirsch
I'm curious if anyone has ordered any newer batches of these products. This is the second change we've seen in the case of the SFP. All the units from then newest batch seem to have trouble linking to the FTC Media Converter or to 2011s, Cloud Core products seem to link together just fine

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-07 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
14.1.2 is buggy. 13.4 seems stable Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! > On Mar 7, 2016, at 3:55 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-07 Thread George Skorup
I have 13.4.1 for FSK loaded on a couple sites now. Seems to be good so far. I wonder how hard it would be to get us 13.4.1 for the regular 450, with the AP FPGA image that fixes the crazy issues. C'mon Cambium I can dream, right? On 3/7/2016 1:49 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: i'm too scared

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread George Skorup
We're using Shireen DC-1021 for customers and 1042 for towers (dry gel tape). On 3/7/2016 2:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 100% Ubiquiti Toughcable Carrier for a couple years now Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Then move the Toughcable over for DC power and run some fiber. *Dream* Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > ToughCable Carrier everywhere. Well, until more of our

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
ToughCable Carrier everywhere. Well, until more of our vendors support SFPs on tower based radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jon Langeler" To:

[AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Jon Langeler
Is everyone using 5e or 6 typically at towers? Customers? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower cat5/6?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
100% Ubiquiti Toughcable Carrier for a couple years now Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Is everyone using 5e or 6 typically at towers? Customers? > >

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-07 Thread Sean Heskett
i'm too scared after the 14.1.1 fiasco we went through. let me know how it goes lol...I might upgrade a couple months after 14.1.2 is out in the wild but i'm too gun shy now. -sean On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] The internet of stupid things

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/01/how-to-search-the-internet-of-things-for-photos-of-sleeping-babies/ On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > This will only get worse: > > http://blog.apnic.net/2015/04/30/the-internet-of-stupid-things/

Re: [AFMUG] The internet of stupid things

2016-03-07 Thread Mathew Howard
Judging by some of our customers, yes! On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Was the previous Internet the Internet of stupid people? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] The internet of stupid things

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Was the previous Internet the Internet of stupid people? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 1:23:33

[AFMUG] The internet of stupid things

2016-03-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
This will only get worse: http://blog.apnic.net/2015/04/30/the-internet-of-stupid-things/

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
BMG = BMG Rights Management? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I think we are going to start just following Google's take on DMCA > notices. I would like ours

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-07 Thread Chuck Hogg
I think we are going to start just following Google's take on DMCA notices. I would like ours to send the customer an email requiring the to go to a webpage in the next 7 days or be blocked. They will then be tracked watching a video of sorts that explains why they are watching this video. I

Re: [AFMUG] Engineers develop flexible skin that traps radar waves, cloaks objects

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
There was a story a few years back about some guys who stole military paint used for F-117's with the intent to put it on vehicles for drug smuggling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation-absorbent_material#Iron_ball_paint_absorber On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-07 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
Correction: reregs Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! > On Mar 7, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Tyson @ Internet

[AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-07 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
Testing the following firmware. We see on three sites using 10Mhz channels the sms are registering. No issues on 13.4 or 20Mhz channels. Anyone else see this ? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540

Re: [AFMUG] Engineers develop flexible skin that traps radar waves, cloaks objects

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Wdovech
Only by other vehicles with lights on top. On 3/7/2016 11:57 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Does your truck often get tracked by radar? On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Mike Wdovech > wrote: But can I wrap my truck with it? On

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I hit send too quickly. Here's how to NAT your customers to a range of ports. http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Perhaps our ticketing systems need an input box where we can copy + paste the ACNS XML into and it files it with the correct customer? If you're NATing your customers, you should be NATing them to a particular range so you can track them easier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] Engineers develop flexible skin that traps radar waves, cloaks objects

2016-03-07 Thread Mathew Howard
...nevermind, I see how that could be appealing :P On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Does your truck often get tracked by radar? > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Mike Wdovech > wrote: > >> But can I wrap my truck with it?

Re: [AFMUG] Engineers develop flexible skin that traps radar waves, cloaks objects

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
It depends how late I am. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 11:57:05 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Engineers develop flexible skin that traps radar waves, cloaks objects

2016-03-07 Thread Mathew Howard
Does your truck often get tracked by radar? On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Mike Wdovech wrote: > But can I wrap my truck with it? > > On 3/7/2016 10:58 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >> >> http://m.phys.org/news/2016-03-flexible-skin-radar-cloaks.html >> >> >

Re: [AFMUG] Engineers develop flexible skin that traps radar waves, cloaks objects

2016-03-07 Thread Mike Wdovech
But can I wrap my truck with it? On 3/7/2016 10:58 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: http://m.phys.org/news/2016-03-flexible-skin-radar-cloaks.html

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Talking about transit not hosting, the bulk of notices follow a standard format designed to make it easy for you. Then there are the outliers that want you to serve a John Doe with a payment demand or legal threat, without going to the trouble to get a court order for the customer’s identity

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-07 Thread Jon Auer
I filled out that survey and then realized that most of the burden comes down to the shi**y state of ticketing systems / backoffice tooling (aside from not being able to file the registered agent form online). Pretty much all the DMCA notices come with ACNS XML. It's easy enough to parse, open

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh I know, I was helping your coffee lacking sentence =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Urban and suburbs are often somewhat similar in demographic and

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
Urban and suburbs are often somewhat similar in demographic and deployment in my experience. They have it easy most of the time: shorter drive times, installs for the day clustered together, throw up a j-arm and a nanobridge or equivalent or a nano and call it a day. 3-5 installs per day. Rural is

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Ben Royer
That's another good point, is these stats can also be skewed by things like who's prequalifying their installs, or for that matter, what your 'qualifying factors' even are. The 'standards' a company has are definitely going to effect how many installs are done in a day. It's also going to

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread John Woodfield
Rural, 1500 square miles +/- John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 12:07pm To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
s/suburban/rural Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Reading my own post, I'm pretty sure I need coffee. :( > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread George Skorup
We had contractors years ago and ended up with these exact issues. We had standards, they didn't listen, got rid of them. Same reason we don't use contractors for tower work either. Tried it once, wasn't a good idea, never again. It is much easier to demand quality work from employees. On

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
Reading my own post, I'm pretty sure I need coffee. :( On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Reading this posts, I'm pretty sure I can pick up here who is rural > and who is suburban / urban. > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Ty Featherling

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
Reading this posts, I'm pretty sure I can pick up here who is rural and who is suburban / urban. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: > 3 a day is a good balance I think. Even though we do more on occasion, the > sweet spot for us is 3. > > -Ty > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Ty Featherling
3 a day is a good balance I think. Even though we do more on occasion, the sweet spot for us is 3. -Ty -Ty On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:52 AM, John Woodfield wrote: > The question is finding the balance. The consensus I've heard is schedule > three a day. I was hoping

[AFMUG] Engineers develop flexible skin that traps radar waves, cloaks objects

2016-03-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://m.phys.org/news/2016-03-flexible-skin-radar-cloaks.html

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Jeremy
We do 2 a day in the winter and 3 a day the rest of the year. The frost doesn't usually thaw off the roofs until about 10am. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:52 AM, John Woodfield wrote: > The question is finding the balance. The consensus I've heard is schedule > three a day.

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread John Woodfield
The question is finding the balance. The consensus I've heard is schedule three a day. I was hoping the average was more but 3 sounds reasonable. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Ben Royer" Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Dish Network pays by the job.but they have people go back and double check your work and then take your money away if they don't like what they see. And the installing contractor is on the hook for failures within a period of time --I think one year. They do that for all the reasons you

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Ty Featherling
Our guys do all of these things save hooking up customer equipment. We draw the line at connecting the internet to their router. They are paid hourly too, not by the job. -Ty -Ty On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ben Royer wrote: > The basic thought process is if you

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Chuck McCown
When we paid by the job we had lots of complaints from customers. From: Ben Royer Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance The basic thought process is if you pay a technician by the job, they are naturally going to work faster, this

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

2016-03-07 Thread Ben Royer
The basic thought process is if you pay a technician by the job, they are naturally going to work faster, this could have benefits but also negatives. More installs done in a day may equate to more income for your company, but the adverse is your quality of install may be negatively affected

Re: [AFMUG] anyone watching the debates

2016-03-07 Thread Dan Petermann
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for President! On Mar 5, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > vote for Pedro > > Sent from Outlook Mobile > > > > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 1:48 PM -0800, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > > The whole field

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