Re: [AFMUG] Epmp router mode

>From the outside world to the LAN IP nothing. From my house (the same /23 of publics) it does ping. >From the wired side of the epmp radio I could not ping the RF interface IP. Or anything farther away. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp router mode

What about a traceroute from upstream to the SM LAN? Does it just die? On 6/21/2016 11:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Static route from our router to the ePMP RF IP. RF IP is DHCP, tried static. Can't see the routing table on the SMaugh. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp router mode

Static route from our router to the ePMP RF IP. RF IP is DHCP, tried static. Can't see the routing table on the SMaugh. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:22 AM, George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp router mode

And honestly, I don't really see the point in router mode on a CPE radio, but I know others asked for it and Cambium did it, so that's cool and all, but I won't use it. Hey, more options are better than less, or the Motorola way of you do what we say, ya unnastan? On 6/21/2016 11:17 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp router mode

How are you assigning it an IP on the wireless/WAN side? Maybe a default route thing? And then an upstream route back to the LAN side of the SM? On 6/21/2016 11:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: NAT works on like 98% of our customers. Bridge works on the other 2%. Router mode didn't seem to do it's

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp router mode

NAT works on like 98% of our customers. Bridge works on the other 2%. Router mode didn't seem to do it's job. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:13 AM, George Skorup wrote: > No. Unless

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp router mode

No. Unless you mean NAT. I messed with NAT. Unexplained latency issues, so I switched that customer back to bridge. The first one I tried. Of course that was a couple releases ago. On 6/21/2016 10:38 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone used this? Doesn't seem to be working for me... Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp router mode

I am setting up some tomorrow lets see how I do On Jun 21, 2016 9:38 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Has anyone used this? Doesn't seem to be working for me... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH

[AFMUG] Epmp router mode

Has anyone used this? Doesn't seem to be working for me... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] -48v stupid question

Leaving it alone was my first inclination. Especially since it's been working for months.recent events gave me doubts is all. As always, I appreciate the input of this community. By grounding at the supply, you would technically be creating a ground loop. But this happens all the time

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

Fresa On Jun 21, 2016 4:53 PM, wrote: > I did but impatient... > > I want my response now, not 10 minutes from now dammit! > > I am a Merican! > > *From:* Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 21, 2016 4:49 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

And the list prevails again!! Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:01 PM -0500, "ch...@wbmfg.com" > wrote: Jaime Fink answered me 4 minutes after the posting. Ain't Merica Great! From: Jeff Broadwick -

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

Jaime Fink answered me 4 minutes after the posting. Ain’t Merica Great! From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 4:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Cc: e...@mimosa.co Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa Elle Wood, I believe. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

Elle Wood, I believe. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Jun 21, 2016, at 6:53 PM, wrote: > > I did but impatient... > > I want my response now, not 10 minutes from now

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

I did but impatient... I want my response now, not 10 minutes from now dammit! I am a Merican! From: Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 4:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa I'd check with Jamie Fink ja...@mimosa.co -Sean On Tuesday, June 21, 2016,

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

I'd check with Jamie Fink ja...@mimosa.co -Sean On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, wrote: > Anyone know who is the head of marketing for Mimosa? >

[AFMUG] Mimosa

Anyone know who is the head of marketing for Mimosa?

Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws

Think about smuggling ship to shore... On 6/21/16 12:11 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I'm still trying to figure this out, since any Hawaii-to-Hawaii flight going between any two islands could be beyond 12 nautical miles, but still be within the exclusive economic zone, no? This is the sort of

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Oh, gotcha. It's an annual subscription for the software licensing, which is normally a one time purchase if you buy an appliance. The subscription is 1/3rd of the cost of the appliance perpetual license. Assuming you have compatible hardware to install it on, that appears to be the only cost

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Your last email, were you trying to explain vm pricing? So is the vm free you just have to pay for subscription? Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:06 PM -0500, "Simon Westlake" > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] -48v stupid question

I have replaced Trango "-48" supplies with "+48" Mean Well MDR units. The Trango POE box bonds the + side of the input terminal blocks to ground anyway. So technically, yes, the "positive" side of the Mean Well is earthed. It works fine. And this is one power supply to one radio. Nothing

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Which part? On 6/21/2016 4:51 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: Is it just me or did Simon confuse anyone else? :) Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:33 PM -0500, "Paul Stewart" > wrote: Yup

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Is it just me or did Simon confuse anyone else? :) Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:33 PM -0500, "Paul Stewart" > wrote: Yup definitely .. :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Yup definitely .. :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: June 21, 2016 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities I've never used a Procera, but based on my understanding of what it does, virtualization performance would also depend

Re: [AFMUG] -48v stupid question

By grounding at the supply, you would technically be creating a ground loop. But this happens all the time when folks use positive grounded power supplies on positive grounded loads. I don't think it would hurt or help anything. It could make it obvious to some future technician that this is

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having a problem getting a hold of WISPmon

This list never stops amazing me!! Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:49 PM -0500, "Josh Reynolds" > wrote: 3 minute turn around time. That's good stuff! On Jun 21, 2016 9:54 AM, "Cameron

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having a problem getting a hold of WISPmon

3 minute turn around time. That's good stuff! On Jun 21, 2016 9:54 AM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > Rory, > > We are here. Where have you been sending email? Please contact me at > 2142070516. Thanks. > > Cameron > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Got some basic details for anyone interested. 1. Pricing is annual subscription. 2. PRE pricing is throughput based similar to the appliance based PRE pricing, with the only difference that virtual is annual based subscription, as opposed to appliance which is perpetual. 3. List price for

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

I've never used a Procera, but based on my understanding of what it does, virtualization performance would also depend greatly on what type of virtualization. Something like xen PV would be considerably faster than xen HVM: http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Understanding_the_Virtualization_Spectrum

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Yes … still hardware sitting in a VM server or cluster etc … I would suggest talking to them about what traffic you are looking at doing and compare that to recommended VM configuration … things keep advancing with vendors shifting customers from appliances to virtualized but for some

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

One thing to bear in mind in terms of resources is that something like the PL8820 (which was the smallest 10Gb capable unit they had previously) had dual, 8 core Xeons and 64GB of RAM in it. It was built to handle up to 40Gbps, so I'm sure it had some buffer, but something to think about..

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

You can run it in anything, as far as I know, but you are licensing it by throughput and instance. So if you duplicate it, you will have to get more licensing for it, and if you're doing 10GB, you would pay more than if you're doing 1GB. I don't have all the details on the virtualization as I

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Couldn’t you just run it in Xen on a 1U with 2x10G NICs? Then duplicate as you see fit. I assume you could get that rolling for cheap. > On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: > > Nope, you deploy it into your virtualized environment and away you go. Any >

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Nope, you deploy it into your virtualized environment and away you go. Any traffic has to pass through the interfaces associated with the VM though. I personally don't think it's a wonderful solution for a WISP, if you want a PRE for some massive virtualized deployment of servers, it probably

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

How does the VM work? Is there still hardware that sits on the network? On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Simon Westlake wrote: > I haven't priced one yet, but I can get a quote if you're interested, just > hit me off list. > > On 6/21/2016 2:02 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws

Yeah, I don't know. It was just the first thing that came to mind. On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I'm still trying to figure this out, since any Hawaii-to-Hawaii flight > going between any two islands could be beyond 12 nautical miles, but still > be

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it?

Josh, Here is a short video describing RSRP (Reference Signal Received Power) calculations in LTE. As most LTE is used in Mobile operations, this measurement is necessary for cellular handoffs, CINR measurements, etc. This is comparable to RSSI that most WISPs are used to.

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

I haven't priced one yet, but I can get a quote if you're interested, just hit me off list. On 6/21/2016 2:02 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: Any ideas on how cheap you can get in on the vm. Thats a nice way to go for most people i would assume. Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Yeah, that might be it - my memory was fuzzy on the details. On 6/21/2016 2:03 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: According to Wikipedia they were originally called Procera, then merged with a Swedish company named Netintact. On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Simon Westlake wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws

I'm still trying to figure this out, since any Hawaii-to-Hawaii flight going between any two islands could be beyond 12 nautical miles, but still be within the exclusive economic zone, no? This is the sort of question that probably ends up in an Admiralty Law course. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

I have it and have used it on some Hotel gateways we have and it seemed to have saved the day which brought up the question if I should have something on my edges to help. On 06/21/2016 08:01 AM, Daniel Gerlach wrote: maybe BUTCH EVANS QOS SCRIPT can help you 2016-06-21 14:23 GMT+02:00

Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors Near Saltwater / Ocean

tube of silicone should do the trick for the ss units. Just be sure to seal all. On 06/21/2016 01:58 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Using something that seals up better should help. Transtector has some units, Chuck's seem like they seal up better as well. On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Christopher

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

According to Wikipedia they were originally called Procera, then merged with a Swedish company named Netintact. On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Simon Westlake wrote: > They do have a virtualized appliance now, but if you want the hardware > appliance, you still have to buy it.

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Any ideas on how cheap you can get in on the vm. Thats a nice way to go for most people i would assume. Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:47 PM -0500, "Simon Westlake" > wrote: They do

Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors Near Saltwater / Ocean

Using something that seals up better should help. Transtector has some units, Chuck's seem like they seal up better as well. On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Christopher Gray wrote: > I'm working on a service near the ocean. The previous operator used 600SS > units for

[AFMUG] Surge Suppressors Near Saltwater / Ocean

I'm working on a service near the ocean. The previous operator used 600SS units for surge suppression, and had many failures (they believe due to the proximity to salt water). Are there any specific precautions that can be made for the 600SS, or other devices to prevent issues in a high salt

[AFMUG] -48v stupid question

My 48v power supply has floating ground on the DC side. It does have a chassis ground, and the AC input has a ground. So my DC side is -48 only by virtue of the equipment on the tower having + grounded. Should i go ahead and connect + to ground at the power supply? Seems like that would

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

They do have a virtualized appliance now, but if you want the hardware appliance, you still have to buy it. My understanding of why they stop selling the software is that it still has to be validated to function on older devices - some of become unusable because of lack of memory as signatures

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

If their product is the subscription service, they don't hesitate selling the subscription service. $2,500/year is better than $0/year. Okay, so then don't cover the hardware anymore, software only. They should sell software-only to anyone at any time. Procera has been around for 10 years?

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Well, one of the things to bear in mind with Procera is that you are essentially buying the subscription service. Even though the box isn't cheap, the value of the product is really the subscription. One of the things that the support/subscription covers is next day air replacement on the

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

I don't understand this mentality from some companies. I mean, someone bought this new, and may have at least hesitated if they knew that the resale value would immediately be zero. I guess at least they license used units. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Simon Westlake

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

They usually have a period where they stop selling it, but will continue to license it for existing customers. It varies. For example, the PL8820 was just EOLed and replaced by the 8840 (https://www.proceranetworks.com/products/platforms/pl8000) - however, they are selling the remaining 8820s

Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws

Meaning they don't want it going through international territory. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > They don't want people flying stuff into / out of Hawaii via drone? i.e. > internationally > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Eric

Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws

They don't want people flying stuff into / out of Hawaii via drone? i.e. internationally On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I wonder what is the deal with the part about Hawaii. I understand about > DC since there's a huge drone no-fly-zone for

Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws

I wonder what is the deal with the part about Hawaii. I understand about DC since there's a huge drone no-fly-zone for security reasons there, but this? * The flight occurs wholly within the bounds of a State and * *does not involve transport between (1) Hawaii and * *another place in Hawaii

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

If you buy one and get it licensed before it is EOL, will they continue to license it after they EOL it? On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > You can, but they charge full price for the license, and you should be > very careful to ensure the box is not

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

You can, but they charge full price for the license, and you should be very careful to ensure the box is not EOL (they won't license EOL boxes.) If you are looking at one, I can check it out for you and let you know. If you can someone find a non-EOL box at a good price, it can be worth it,

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it?

What price point are they trying to hit? On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > From talking to them at wispa america they are well aware of what price > points they are trying to hit across the board in my opinion. I had a sense > of the 450i was not targeted

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

I'd be interested in seeing if you could buy a used one and then get a new license for it. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Daniel, > > I have the lowest Procera model which is the 7340 model which will do > 1gbps. It was around $18,000 which

Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws

it seems alot more simplified On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Matt Kahle wrote: > It looks like laws changed as of today. > http://www.faa.gov/uas/media/Part_107_Summary.pdf and it appears most of > the pages including the application for the section 333 exemption are no >

Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws

It looks like laws changed as of today. http://www.faa.gov/uas/media/Part_107_Summary.pdf and it appears most of the pages including the application for the section 333 exemption are no longer live. You will now have to pass an in person test administered at a FAA testing facility or in my case as

Re: [AFMUG] anyone having a problem getting a hold of WISPmon

Rory, We are here. Where have you been sending email? Please contact me at 2142070516. Thanks. Cameron On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > We have been trying to get running with them and now they don’t even > return emails. > > > > *Rory Conaway **•

[AFMUG] anyone having a problem getting a hold of WISPmon

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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik BGP Blackhole Community

Works great -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik BGP Blackhole Community Many times! www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] 430 FW upgrade path (for 450 transition)

I am adding the SMs directly in CNUT. From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 1:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 430 FW upgrade path (for 450 transition) That's some of those quirks I mentioned about 11.2. The verification thing was screwed up with CNUT 4.8 too, IIRC.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik BGP Blackhole Community

Many times! www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 6:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik BGP Blackhole Community Has anyone used BGP and

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

Daniel, I have the lowest Procera model which is the 7340 model which will do 1gbps. It was around $18,000 which included first year of signature updates which is like $2500/year. Bought it through Powercode. I checked on ebay and there always seems to be some used Proceras on there.

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it?

>From talking to them at wispa america they are well aware of what price points they are trying to hit across the board in my opinion. I had a sense of the 450i was not targeted towards wireless ISPs as much as it was to get into that lucrative government 4.9/5.x space with hardened equipment. On

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

maybe BUTCH EVANS QOS SCRIPT can help you 2016-06-21 14:23 GMT+02:00 David Milholen : > I am going to do the cheaper route first before throwing a load of money > at procera. > Ok, disclosure is not an issue. I just did not understand what I could do > and could not do as

Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities

I am going to do the cheaper route first before throwing a load of money at procera. Ok, disclosure is not an issue. I just did not understand what I could do and could not do as far as limitation goes. Now its time to get to work and see what I can do to make things more smooth. Thanks much

Re: [AFMUG] 430 FW upgrade path (for 450 transition)

That's some of those quirks I mentioned about 11.2. The verification thing was screwed up with CNUT 4.8 too, IIRC. Possibly 4.7 as well, but it's been a while. I really don't think it's a CNUT thing, but I could be wrong. I have updated new (old stock), refurbished and recovered SMs (FSK and

Re: [AFMUG] 430 FW upgrade path (for 450 transition)

Once an SM is in the screwed-up state, even taking the AP down to 11.2 didn’t seem to help. Only rebooting it, or getting lucky to have a few second window where you can log in remotely and reboot it. But based on a limited sample, here is what seems to be happening with an AP downgraded to