Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Hohhof Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Ubiquiti claims to have that patent pending HDD mode where it figures out how long the bits take to fly through the air. I think of it as similar to road construction on one lane of a two lane road, and somehow

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Josh Luthman
*To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins. They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS connector being in the way, but you can use them on any antenna you want. There's nothing

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Jeremy
@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins. They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS connector being in the way, but you can use them on any antenna you want. There's nothing

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Jeremy
: What about if you use their adapter kit (the one that also converts to dual slant)? I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though? *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Josh Reynolds
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins. They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS connector being in the way, but you can use them on any

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Josh Luthman
RF Armor radio shields are scrap though? *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins. They won't directly bolt

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Jeremy
:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins. They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS connector being in the way, but you can use them on any

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
It would make me want to take a trip out to the tower after those customer support calls from hell. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 8:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Wo that's a good picture!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Caleb Knauer
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Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Mike Hammett
-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:38:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Can the 5x be installed on older Ubnt rocket 30 dbi dishes? or would I

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Chuck Macenski
? -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Chuck Macenski
mode, given that it is using separate antennas rather than a diplexer. *From:* Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 9:49 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X The Rx and Tx Channel ranges are the same Chuck On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:47

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Mathew Howard
? Similar to a PTP600, a few milliseconds and very constant? -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Chuck McCown
AirHole. Blond guy that is both dumb and an ass. AirHole. From: Ben Moore Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 8:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Who is to say a wormBeam isn't already in the works? ;) I have to admit...I am partial to AirHole... On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 4

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Mathew Howard
Macenski ch...@macenski.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 9:49 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X The Rx and Tx Channel ranges are the same Chuck On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: In Ubiquiti's version of FDD

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe the question was can TX and RX be set to the same frequency on the AF5 in FDD mode, given that it is using separate antennas rather than a diplexer. From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 9:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X The Rx and Tx Channel ranges

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Sam Lambie
: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Ben Moore
contain “air” or “tough” or “fi” or “beam”. How about WormBeam, or AirHole. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2015 9:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Is that Worm with holes ? or Holes in Worms ? Confused

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
What about if you use their adapter kit (the one that also converts to dual slant)? I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though? From: Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Jeremy
Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:38:01 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Can the 5x be installed on older Ubnt rocket 30 dbi dishes? or would I need to install new dishes to accommodate the new radios? On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 12:27:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X What about if you use their adapter kit (the one that also converts to dual slant)? I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though? From: Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Josh Luthman
/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:38:01 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Can the 5x be installed on older Ubnt rocket 30 dbi dishes? or would I

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Jeremy
)? I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though? *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins. They won't

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Mathew Howard
)? I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though? *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use the top two pins

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what you give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower power

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
? What's is latency like on the AF5X? Similar to a PTP600, a few milliseconds and very constant? -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-05 Thread Adam Moffett
@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Is that Worm with holes ? or Holes in Worms ? Confused :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
...@ubnt.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 9:08:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Exactly :) On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:09 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Wormholes. On 5/4/2015 7:03 PM, Bill Prince wrote: The short burst concept could

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Can’t be a Ubiquiti product ... name doesn’t contain “air” or “tough” or “fi” or “beam”. How about WormBeam, or AirHole. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 9:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Is that Worm with holes ? or Holes in Worms ? Confused

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Mathew Howard
) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Jon Langeler
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what you give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Jeremy
and delays due to multipath reflections, etc. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 6:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Think of the air in between as a storage device. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/4/2015 4:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Matt Hardy
- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 6:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Think of the air in between as a storage device. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/4/2015 4:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Ubiquiti claims to have that patent pending HDD mode where

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
constant? -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X I have one AF5 up running FDD in the DFS band at 3.4 miles. We didn't want to try to push an AF24 that far. RTT average is around 0.8ms, so yes, like a licensed radio. No idea about the AF5X, haven't bought any. But I'd guess latency would be similar to the AF5

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what you give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower power, and drop-in

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Rory Conaway
The AF5x will go down to the 5.1GHz, the AF5 is limited to 5.4GHz. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 3:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
to the other end, we both stop xmt and switch to rcv so we can grab the bits. Modify this to allow for OFDM cyclic prefix and delays due to multipath reflections, etc. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 6:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Think

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
at the other end. I can't wrap my head around how that works. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 6:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X I have one AF5 up running FDD in the DFS band at 3.4 miles. We didn't want to try

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what you give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Josh Luthman
: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts. On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and what you give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower

Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

2015-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
grab the bits. Modify this to allow for OFDM cyclic prefix and delays due to multipath reflections, etc. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 6:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X Think of the air in between as a storage device. bp