Re: [AFMUG] problems sending to the list

2017-05-04 Thread Ryan Ray
Nope Sent while mobile > On May 4, 2017, at 10:24 PM, dsd gfryh wrote: > > Has anyone had problems sending to AFMUG? > I can see the emails in the archive but they don't send to other users. (from > a different address obviously.) I have checked RDNS and ensured the

[AFMUG] problems sending to the list

2017-05-04 Thread dsd gfryh
Has anyone had problems sending to AFMUG? I can see the emails in the archive but they don't send to other users. (from a different address obviously.) I have checked RDNS and ensured the records match. I have included the AFMUG Amazon email server in the SPF records.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 and RF Elements Horns

2017-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
We are putting 2000 up where the 1000 sectors are and pulling the 1000 for the horns, we have a couple towers where sectors will overload them so this fills the ticket... Til we run out of 1000s to replace. On May 4, 2017 9:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > I am going

Re: [AFMUG] On Topic: Yes Chuck they are delicious

2017-05-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Nope...I enjoy my Tecate...I will not stay quiet on this topic...ever On May 4, 2017 10:08 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > But you ruined it with thatwhatever they call that drink (it ain't > beer!) > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >

Re: [AFMUG] On Topic: Yes Chuck they are delicious

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Luthman
But you ruined it with thatwhatever they call that drink (it ain't beer!) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Just warmed up a couple from batch

[AFMUG] Fiber blowing y adapter

2017-05-04 Thread Jon Langeler
Anyone have one for sale or loan? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Robert
Netcom... & Bob Rieger ruling all under him... On 5/4/17 6:18 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Wyse Terminals...With a Microcom modem... The cats pajamas On May 4, 2017 7:16 PM, "Josh Reynolds" > wrote: I do miss the communities and hidden

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Robert
Where's the thumbs up icon in email...? On 5/4/17 6:04 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: Some of us still use xterm under Linux... What is this Windows thing you speak of? On 5/4/17 5:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Kermit Dial up BBSs Floppys Nah, not really, I don’t really miss any of that. *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 and RF Elements Horns

2017-05-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am going to try some soon. Local WISP swears by them on epmp On May 4, 2017 8:01 PM, "Josh Baird" wrote: > Hm - I wonder if the 40deg models are even being made yet? I need to > split an overloaded 90deg sector. Was planning on doing it using a couple > 40deg horns.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 and RF Elements Horns

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Baird
Hm - I wonder if the 40deg models are even being made yet? I need to split an overloaded 90deg sector. Was planning on doing it using a couple 40deg horns. guess I'll have to see if 2x30deg CC horns will work, or just use ePMP 1000 and the normal 40deg horns with twistport adapters. On Thu,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 and RF Elements Horns

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes, no. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 8:54:38 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 and RF Elements Horns

[AFMUG] ePMP 2000 and RF Elements Horns

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Baird
Doesn't look like there are twistport adapters for ePMP 2000, so do I need to use the 'carrier class' horns with N-connectors [1] instead? Anyone know who has the 40deg/16db models in stock? [1]

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ew. At least use a modern terminal :) - Josh On May 4, 2017 8:04 PM, "Bruce Robertson" wrote: > Some of us still use xterm under Linux... What is this Windows thing you > speak of? > > On 5/4/17 5:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Kermit > Dial up > BBSs > Floppys > > Nah, not

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wyse Terminals...With a Microcom modem... The cats pajamas On May 4, 2017 7:16 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I do miss the communities and hidden adventure around BBSes, BBS > gatherings, and LAN parties. > > - Josh > > On May 4, 2017 7:40 PM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
I do miss the communities and hidden adventure around BBSes, BBS gatherings, and LAN parties. - Josh On May 4, 2017 7:40 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Kermit > Dial up > BBSs > Floppys > > Nah, not really, I don’t really miss any of that. > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Bruce Robertson
Some of us still use xterm under Linux... What is this Windows thing you speak of? On 5/4/17 5:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Kermit Dial up BBSs Floppys Nah, not really, I don’t really miss any of that. *From:* Chuck McCown *Sent:* Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators

2017-05-04 Thread George Skorup
Accuracy. Known-good connectorized SMs to verify multiple APs in 3 and 5GHz. Coaxes and attenuators only. I've used antennas and bare SMs pointed up at the ceiling and it's just not reliable. We ended up redeploying an old AP that apparently has bad Tx on one polarity. Really trying to cut

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Kermit Dial up BBSs Floppys Nah, not really, I don’t really miss any of that. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? I miss the days when all you needed was Procomm with the fuchsia and yellow screen.

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
I miss the days when all you needed was Procomm with the fuchsia and yellow screen. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:24 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? Just noticed this thread. I use "Bitvise SSH client" for my unix terminal

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Just noticed this thread. I use "Bitvise SSH client" for my unix terminal needs. I use Putty and TeraTerm as well. I also have used SecureCRT in the past, but I have a hard time paying what they're asking, especially since I found Bitvise (and the fact I'm not in a terminal window nearly as

Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes. But is there a reason you don't want to use the paper clip trick? Single piece of wire quarter wavelength is all you need. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 5:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators So... I'm having bad

Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators

2017-05-04 Thread George Skorup
So... I'm having bad luck finding 60dB attenuators in DC-6GHz or greater. I found some 50's, but they're only 4GHz. WTF. Stupid question. Can I stack 30's to get 60? I see lots of N to N in 30dB on Amazon. Up to 1W mostly. Looks like for cellular amp/repeater type stuff. So I assume they

Re: [AFMUG] SyncInjector Canopy 100 H1 Voltage

2017-05-04 Thread George Skorup
I don't understand the question. The SyncInjector that has the pipe/box plugged into it (the SyncPipe/daisy-chain in port) is the one that powers it. Is that what you're asking? On 5/4/2017 6:29 PM, Matt wrote: What if the sync injectors are daisy chained for the sync pipe? I actually

Re: [AFMUG] SyncInjector Canopy 100 H1 Voltage

2017-05-04 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
There is one caveat: The pre-revision I hardware is likely to cause a bit of ringing on the sync pulse. The 450i does not like this. Depending on the cable length, how they are installed, etc, etc, etc, the 450i may never accept the pulse as valid due to this ringing. This is the change which

Re: [AFMUG] SyncInjector Canopy 100 H1 Voltage

2017-05-04 Thread Matt
What if the sync injectors are daisy chained for the sync pipe? I actually currently have 24 and 48 volt syncinjectors all chained together at several locations. On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:07 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Yep. Just use a Rev G or later pipe/box for 48VDC.

Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators

2017-05-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ah... memory lane...Paper clip antennas..I can open all kinds of locks , desks and file cabinets with paper clip On May 4, 2017 4:37 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: On both ends, separated by several feet. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] Phone line passthrough for in-wall AP

2017-05-04 Thread Cameron Crum
If they have them with RJ45, an RJ11 will fit into an rj45 port. Just make sure you have the wires on the right pins. On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Had no clue that product existed. Pretty neat. Now I understand the need. > You could use an RJ11

Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
On both ends, separated by several feet. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 4:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators 60 will work. I just use a paperclip and a barrel connector. -Original Message- From: George

Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
60 will work. I just use a paperclip and a barrel connector. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 4:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] RF attenuators I need to RF test some 450 APs with connectorized SMs. What's a good option for N to N

Re: [AFMUG] RF attenuators

2017-05-04 Thread Matt Mangriotis
60 dB pads are what we typically use internally... Matt -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 5:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] RF attenuators I need to RF test some 450 APs with connectorized SMs. What's

[AFMUG] RF attenuators

2017-05-04 Thread George Skorup
I need to RF test some 450 APs with connectorized SMs. What's a good option for N to N attenuators? I'm thinking I want like 60dB so there's no chance of the SM overloading the AP Rx (because SM Tx power control doesn't kick in for a few minutes).

[AFMUG] MTI vs Alpha

2017-05-04 Thread Jason McKemie
Does anyone have an opinion or experience with comparing these? I've had good luck with MTI, I've never used Alpha though.

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Chris Wright
+1 for MobaXterm. It’s a treasure trove of functionality. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 7:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? MobaXterm does all of

Re: [AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
What I MEANT was 1/2 or 3/6. Listen to what I mean, not what I type. bp On 5/4/2017 12:32 PM, Bill Prince wrote: A device NOT expecting power on pins 1/2 or 7/8 will likely let the smoke out.

Re: [AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Cross checked. There are modes using all data pairs. Compliant devices do some checking at startup before powering. Not sure Mimosa claims the Power supply is af/at compliant. Better ask mimosa ... On Thu, 4 May 2017 19:34:27 + Seth Mattinen wrote: On 5/4/17 12:20,

Re: [AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't remember af ever having DC on pins 1/2/3/6 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 5/4/17 12:20, Jay Weekley wrote: > >> So, would you try it? >> >> On

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Personally I do tickets + Escalation to support@ Having both gives me redundancy in case email or the API mechanism is having problems. In all the years I don't think we've ever missed a single one, however, the extra email is a few bytes of assurance. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/4/17 12:20, Jay Weekley wrote: So, would you try it? On Thu May 4 15:00 , Seth Mattinen sent: On 5/4/17 11:51, Josh Luthman wrote: Sounds like too much power on the data pairs to be 802.3af... Too much? at/af/bt is up to 57 volts. POE af/at standard complaint devices do not

Re: [AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
802.3af provides power on two of the four pairs. Which pair is determined by whether it is mode A or mode B. I think the "conservative" version is mode B, since it puts the power on pins 4/5 (+) and 7/8 (-). Mode A is pins 1/2 (+), and 3/6 (-). A device NOT expecting power on pins 1/2 or 7/8

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
Thanks man, I let the boss know In the prelim documents it keeps wanting emails for escalations, if theyre integrated in powercode is that handled through the ticket system notifications or does there need to be a secondary email for them to notify? On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Luthman
You and anyone else with ServerPlus is welcome to use them to your liking. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: > We

Re: [AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Jay Weekley
So, would you try it? On Thu May 4 15:00 , Seth Mattinen sent: >On 5/4/17 11:51, Josh Luthman wrote: >> Sounds like too much power on the data pairs to be 802.3af... > > >Too much? at/af/bt is up to 57 volts.

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-04 Thread Jason Wilson
We are also getting ready to pull the trigger. If anyone has decision trees that are working for them and are willing to share, that would be appreciated. Jason Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell

Re: [AFMUG] SyncInjector Canopy 100 H1 Voltage

2017-05-04 Thread George Skorup
Yep. Just use a Rev G or later pipe/box for 48VDC. No wiring changes necessary. Plug it in and go. And remember this is 2-pair power only, so don't use the Aux port POE out on the 450i with this configuration. On 5/4/2017 11:28 AM, Matt wrote: Will a PacketFlux SyncInjector 100 hardware H1

Re: [AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/4/17 11:51, Josh Luthman wrote: Sounds like too much power on the data pairs to be 802.3af... Too much? at/af/bt is up to 57 volts.

Re: [AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Sounds like too much power on the data pairs to be 802.3af... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Is it possible to power a Unifi UVP VoIP phone with a

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Luthman
If you want to tell JT to look at our support tree you're welcome to use it. We're Powercode as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > +1 well put > >

[AFMUG] Power Unifi VoIP phone with Mimosa power supply?

2017-05-04 Thread Jay Weekley
Is it possible to power a Unifi UVP VoIP phone with a Mimosa power supply? We have one that didn't come with a 48 volt power supply but we have extra Mimosa power supplies laying around. The Unifi phone is 802.3 af compliant. The Mimosa power supply lists 3/6 and 4/5 as positive and 1/2 and

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-04 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 well put -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/4/2017 9:34:16 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus They are only as good as the decision tree you provide for them. We use them for off hours and overflow. They don’t make too many

[AFMUG] SyncInjector Canopy 100 H1 Voltage

2017-05-04 Thread Matt
Will a PacketFlux SyncInjector 100 hardware H1 accept 48+ volts and power up and provide sync to a PMP450i AP with 100mbps ethernet?

Re: [AFMUG] Phone line passthrough for in-wall AP

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Had no clue that product existed. Pretty neat. Now I understand the need. You could use an RJ11 surface mount “biscuit” jack off to the side. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone line passthrough for in-wall AP In-Wall AP. In

Re: [AFMUG] Phone line passthrough for in-wall AP

2017-05-04 Thread Darin Steffl
I have never seen an in wall AP with pass through RJ11, only an active RJ45 port for a computer or voip phone for example. On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 5:26 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > In-Wall AP. In this case the UBNT UAP-AC-IW. A lot of in wall access > points have an

Re: [AFMUG] Phone line passthrough for in-wall AP

2017-05-04 Thread Carl Peterson
In-Wall AP. In this case the UBNT UAP-AC-IW. A lot of in wall access points have an RJ11 pass through for phones but being UBNT, this one doesn't. Looking for something like the attached image, except more like just the outer ring. with an empty center so I can mount the in wall AP on top of it

Re: [AFMUG] Phone line passthrough for in-wall AP

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Not clear, in wall AP or in wall ATA? I would think a wall plate with both RJ45 and RJ11 on it. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 8:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Phone line passthrough for in-wall AP Looking at installing a few hundred in wall APs somewhere where

[AFMUG] Phone line passthrough for in-wall AP

2017-05-04 Thread Carl Peterson
Looking at installing a few hundred in wall APs somewhere where they are still using the phone lines. There is currently Cat5 lines, one phone, one data, run to a single low voltage box. Rather then having to cut and install a new low voltage frame, does anyone know of something like an

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Simon Westlake
It might be better, was just sharing another tool for reference. I actually use SuperPuTTY myself, as I only ever really need SSH. On 5/4/2017 9:22 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: MobaXterm does all of those as well, and it also has a built in x11 server :P Okay, I'll shut up about this client now.

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
MobaXterm does all of those as well, and it also has a built in x11 server :P Okay, I'll shut up about this client now. It is amazing though. - Josh On May 4, 2017 9:13 AM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > https://mremoteng.org/ > > On 5/3/2017 9:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > I

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Keefe John
It would be nice if they had winbox built in too. Keefe On May 4, 2017 9:13:20 AM CDT, Simon Westlake wrote: >https://mremoteng.org/ > >On 5/3/2017 9:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >> I use the shit out of putty (and winSCP) I'm a GUI gimp, I will own >> that. Is there any

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Simon Westlake
https://mremoteng.org/ On 5/3/2017 9:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I use the shit out of putty (and winSCP) I'm a GUI gimp, I will own that. Is there any better set of tools for the windows environment? Not Complaining at all, or looking to change, I get a ton done with these two applications,

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Kerry
I use SecureCRT for all terminal sessions, the gui is nice for keeping all the logins organized. But for file transfers and other stuff, it's WinSCP. On 5/3/2017 10:44 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: One note I will add is make sure to turn off the "show scp/sftp window by default" or whatever the

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
I have pretty much gone away from putty and use mostly RTV these days. It seals better and lasts longer... From: Richard Strittmatter Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 7:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? SecureCRT is great.. been using it for years. Costs $$

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-04 Thread Chuck McCown
They are only as good as the decision tree you provide for them. We use them for off hours and overflow. They don’t make too many customers angry... They do a very good job of acting like they are us when the customer calls, and then that sometimes becomes a bad thing because they are limited

Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

2017-05-04 Thread Richard Strittmatter
SecureCRT is great.. been using it for years. Costs $$ though. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? I use the shit out of putty (and winSCP) I'm a GUI gimp, I will own

Re: [AFMUG] New AF5X with 48V POE

2017-05-04 Thread Carl Peterson
The whole UBNT supporting reverse POE thing brings up an interesting idea. The Ufiber Nano G is 24V gigabit. Makes me wonder if it could be powered with a Cambium R201P. Would make for an interesting deployment/support scenario. The install would be pretty clean and there would be a TR69

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-04 Thread Lewis Bergman
I haven't seen any off site tech support that provides better service than local. t a knock Serverplus just what I perceive as a fact. I am not saying you shouldn't use them as doing it yourself isn't typically affordable. t saying they are starting behind the eight ball. They don't know your