Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

On that point, we tell them that it is not our responsibility to track their specific usage. We tell them that their are routers like the Fortigate which can track usage, but that we do not support those devices. I tell them that I think the new Torch router does it too, but that we have no

Re: [AFMUG] Pre-terminated category 6 shielded cable

We have had great luck with DeepSurplus. There are some decent discounts in quantity. http://www.deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring/Shielded-Cat6-Patch-Cables We have been buying the outdoor burial shielded Cat 6 cables, but their prices for non-burial are pretty good too. Thanks,

Re: [AFMUG] Pre-terminated category 6 shielded cable

No, but they need to be 100 to 150 feet long and I don't see that option. Colin Stanners wrote: Is there an issue with Monoprice ones? On Jun 21, 2017 8:40 PM, "Jay Weekley" > wrote: Can anyone recommend a source for

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

That's an interesting point. -- Original Message -- From: "Stefan Englhardt" To: af@afmug.com; "Wireless Administrator" Sent: 6/21/2017 3:18:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? We fade out our usage based plans.

Re: [AFMUG] Pre-terminated category 6 shielded cable

Is there an issue with Monoprice ones? On Jun 21, 2017 8:40 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > Can anyone recommend a source for pre-terminated Cat 6 shielded cable? >

[AFMUG] Pre-terminated category 6 shielded cable

Can anyone recommend a source for pre-terminated Cat 6 shielded cable?

Re: [AFMUG] From start to finish

Yep..3dB...link is short using Phoenix Contact I/O 900Mhz 1 watt radios...used H polarity to minimize interference from Schneider Treo radios in same band using V polarity at other nearby sites. Jaime Solorza On Jun 21, 2017 7:19 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > Is that a

Re: [AFMUG] From start to finish

Is that a teanoe weanie yagi at the top? Jaime Solorza wrote: Here is picture I took today in Dona Ana NM of project we did months back...water lines are finally done...so now they have SCADA system operational. Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] From start to finish

Ha...spy my eye.. Jaime Solorza On Jun 21, 2017 7:17 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Spies are gonna analyze those photos and hack the water system. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:22 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] From start to finish >

Re: [AFMUG] From start to finish

Spies are gonna analyze those photos and hack the water system. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:22 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] From start to finish Here is picture I took today in Dona Ana NM of project we did months back...water lines are finally done...so now

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps

I have a water tower with ~165 of cat5 (not e) Superior Essex armored 25-pair with GigE links running just fine. On 6/21/2017 6:57 PM, Chris Wright wrote: Gigabit on Cat5 is only good for about 80 feet. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps

Yes, I meant cat-5e. We typically use Apex9 shielded outdoor with ez shielded connectors. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Matt wrote: > We use a lot of these Mikrotik 24 port rack mount switches. Does > anyone else have trouble getting there copper ethernet

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps

No way.. Cat5 maybe. Who uses that? I would assume he means cat5e. Which should have no trouble holding 1g link at 300+ feet. At a previous job a customer didn't want to put fiber in to a remote building so we pulled cat5e 550'. The only test that failed on the fluke dtx-1800 was length. On Jun

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps

Gigabit on Cat5 is only good for about 80 feet. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps We use a lot of

[AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps

We use a lot of these Mikrotik 24 port rack mount switches. Does anyone else have trouble getting there copper ethernet ports to hold 1Gbps connections on around 150 foot cat-5 runs with APC surge arrestors? I have had this issue with PMP450i gear doing sync over power but now I am having the

Re: [AFMUG] Unifi USG VPN

You need 5.5.x for anyone else needing VPN On Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 8:34 AM Timothy Steele wrote: > Wich one was it? I thought the final had it.. > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 12:30 AM Brett A Mansfield < > li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote: > >> Found it. It just wasn't

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

We have been somewhat UBB from the beginning. We allow 300GB and then it is 50 cents per GB thereafter. 4-5% of our customers exceed that amount each month. The heavy overage users inevitably move to Comcast where available, as planned. In areas where they are not an option our closest

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

Anyone have a favorite OSA? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul McCall" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:46:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

massive MIMO and. wait for it. metered billing or datacaps (unlimited LOLZ) On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I think the metered ship has sailed. People are going to have to figure > out how to get big pipes into and throughout their networks. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Vendor for super high efficiency (Sunpower, etc) PV panels

I built a CO2 powered de icing spray system for one mountain top. Camera so we could see if it was working. Next time I would use nitrogen. CO2 carbonated the fluid and it did not spray well. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Vendor for super high efficiency (Sunpower, etc) PV panels

Really difficult to recharge a 4 week battery bank with only one or two days of sunlight before another month of snow and overcast tho. Generac generators are the best xmas gift I've ever bought for myself ;) -sean On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:16 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > 4

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

It's a possibility, sure. If you use DPI the right way, it would be a net negative for the customer to do that. Anyone implementing DPI as a punitive measure is doing it wrong. All the customer would get out of a whole house VPN is a return to Windows update filling their pipe, Xbox downloads

Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure?

Come on up and take a look. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 2:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure? I could use that, just needs to fit a splice tray and stack a RB260GS unit on/next to it, lol! -Original

Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure?

I could use that, just needs to fit a splice tray and stack a RB260GS unit on/next to it, lol! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure? Ours

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

If there is a market for it, someone will make it easy for a small one time fee. On 06/21/2017 11:14 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: That's a possibility, but it is really not something I'm seeing today. I don't think most consumers have the technical knowledge to understand how to setup a

Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure?

Ours are more like 8x10 -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure? Still on-list, something around 14"x14" mostly empty with about 2"+ clearance inside would be idea. Price point

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

I think the ACOE requires something 20'+. I would imagine if you're doing much of any distance, going 20' - 30' under the floor isn't that big of a deal. Just don't lose the shot. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Target Practice

Hahaha, yea, I’ve got some friends from Chicago who look like that now. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:16 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Target Practice I have a friend who can help Jaime Solorza On Jun 21, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

We fade out our usage based plans. *Every* single customer who had to pay surplus makes us a lot of work. Calls from each single family member, what IP is this. Why cant you tell me what x.y.z.w is. I dont use Akamai ... You have to take care there is no angry escalating dispute for a view

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

One of our UBB clients does not count data between midnight and 5am. He encourages his customers to schedule data backups, big downloads, updates during those times (to the extent that is possible). It is probably a short term solution given the way things are going, but it helps everyone else on

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

If you care about those sorts of things, more APs, smaller sectors, smarter APs\sectors can be paid for with that increased revenue. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Simon Westlake"

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

I think the metered ship has sailed. People are going to have to figure out how to get big pipes into and throughout their networks. Our PtMP vendors are going to have to step it up as well. The cellular guys are moving to massive MIMO on everything. We'll have to do that too. - Mike

Re: [AFMUG] Target Practice

In eastern WA one of the more common non-environmental causes of fiber cuts is shotgun... Even to the extent of taking out inter-city links that are built aerial, carrying DWDM systems. Fun times for the field crew with OTDR at 3:30 AM. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

You can always put a monthly cap on there and disconnect the 5% of users that exceed it. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Wireless Administrator Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? This

Re: [AFMUG] Target Practice

We have seen 3 outages with Cox in 3 days between 14 and 20 hours. I know that one of them was fiber or the fiber box that was shot out and they are only saying so far, the other 2 were unplanned. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: MIMO Grid for MIMOSA C5C

We have some of these running and have additional tests scheduled. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: MIMO Grid for MIMOSA C5C 5ghz grid dish - wouldn't be great up north where we

Re: [AFMUG] Vendor for super high efficiency (Sunpower, etc) PV panels

Affordable high efficiency 72-cell panels are, in STC rating: http://sinovoltaics.com/learning-center/quality/standard-test-conditions-stc-definition-and-problems/ 330W 2.0 x 1.0 meter size = 172W/square meter STC Or very nearly the same for 60-cell (1.65 x 1.0 meter) panels, at 175 to 181 W/sq

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

This industry is in trouble. Nobody wants usage based billing. Customers don’t want it for obvious reasons. ISP’s are afraid to implement it for fear of losing customers. If you lose money on an account is it really an asset to your business? I feel that the Large ISP’s have already

Re: [AFMUG] Vendor for super high efficiency (Sunpower, etc) PV panels

I can buy and mount an additional 1680W of panel (approx five 345W 72-cell panels) for a lot cheaper than the 5-year cost of buying, shipping to me, installing, fueling, and maintaining a generator. Not even before I count the person-hours of labor needed for periodic maintenance drive-time visits

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

If you are in the right place at, or very near a major IX point where there's a carrier POP in the same building as you, and it's as easy as them turning up a new 1310nm/LX 10Gb port on an aggregation router, more like $0.10/Mbps... On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

Yes, it's not a fix to an improperly built network. Microsoft updates trashing a customer connection is not a problem of an improperly built network though. Neither is a kid downloading a 100GB game while another family member is trying to stream Netflix or make a VoIP call. Those are the

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

On 6/21/17 11:18, Colin Stanners wrote: They don't, but if DPI becomes popular at ISPs and customers notice, I guarantee that router manufacturers will offer a VPN service that covers the whole house for a few bucks per month, that can be activated with a single click after monthly billing is

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

DPI only becomes relevant as a part of the overall solution IF you do everything else. Lots of APs with higher capacities Lots of BHs with high capacities Cheap BW (either you can already get it or it is really hard to solve that problem) It takes an all in approach OR just do what you can

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

Yep, guaranteed that will happen From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? They don't, but if DPI becomes popular at ISPs and customers notice, I

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

Well, until that happens, I think it's a pretty good option. It's going to be a pretty big technical hurdle for someone like DLink to offer a scalable VPN solution to hundreds of thousands of people, as well as convincing them to pay for it (and supporting it when something doesn't work

Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure?

Still on-list, something around 14"x14" mostly empty with about 2"+ clearance inside would be idea. Price point around $50 would be good. If you have a couple of similar enclosures available to buy or 'borrow' I could use them while I order more. -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

They don't, but if DPI becomes popular at ISPs and customers notice, I guarantee that router manufacturers will offer a VPN service that covers the whole house for a few bucks per month, that can be activated with a single click after monthly billing is arranged. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:14 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

Another way to look at my perspective on this: If your network is being tramped by Windows updates today, does implementing UBB have any measurable impact on that problem? Conversely, does implementing DPI have any impact on that problem? On 6/21/2017 1:13 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: Does it

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

That's a possibility, but it is really not something I'm seeing today. I don't think most consumers have the technical knowledge to understand how to setup a whole-house VPN that will cover their TV, consoles, ipads, etc. On 6/21/2017 12:49 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: DPI will reduce in

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

Does it really though? My kids watch Netflix on my 4K TV, I'm not always there making sure they're watching HD stuff instead of 4K, so it's not something I think about. They download Minecraft mods on my PS4, it's not something I sit there thinking about. I'm not saying you can't do metered

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Simon, But metered billing makes them think about what they are doing.  Does the baby need to be falling asleep watching a 4K movie?  The best way I can put it is renting an apartment with utilities included.  If I'm renting an

Re: [AFMUG] Target Practice

Hold my beer On 06/21/2017 11:00 AM, Bill Prince wrote: As in "Hey Bubba, watch this!" bp On 6/21/2017 10:38 AM, Chris Wright wrote: My tech�s notes: Found the cable at the bottom of the utility pole shredded. Customer had targets on pole and it looks like

Re: [AFMUG] Target Practice

As in "Hey Bubba, watch this!" bp On 6/21/2017 10:38 AM, Chris Wright wrote: My tech�s notes: Found the cable at the bottom of the utility pole shredded. Customer had targets on pole and it looks like it was shot with a shotgun. Chris Wright Network

Re: [AFMUG] Target Practice

Make it expensive. Chris Wright wrote: My tech’s notes: Found the cable at the bottom of the utility pole shredded. Customer had targets on pole and it looks like it was shot with a shotgun. Chris Wright Network Administrator

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

DPI will reduce in usefulness as it becomes popular and customers realize that paying $5/mo for a VPN makes their games download faster. Customers just need to pay for their usage as it directly affects how much we pay to furnish services to them. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Simon Westlake

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

"charge more to compensate for their consumption." yeah metered billing lol On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > People have been saying that for years. Cellco tried to do it and look > how that backfired, Verizon lost a ton of customers. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

The CDNs I've talked to want to fix it (at least where they're over-stuffing the connection), just don't know what to fix due to a lack of packet captures. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

I'd love to see all the software updates from Apple, Microsoft, etc throttled back heavily. The end user will not know the difference if their software update takes 10 minutes or 10 days. They don't even know when updates are happening anyway, they just call about their crummy speed test

Re: [AFMUG] i want this

I wish they all would, though around here it would probably shift too much unless they have some sort of anchors under the frost line. I still want them though. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Some cities us those. Have not seen in the U.S. but have in

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

People have been saying that for years. Cellco tried to do it and look how that backfired, Verizon lost a ton of customers. Really just call it unlimited, limit it at a certain point (make sure legal covers your ass on this one), and then in the minimal situation where the customer complains you

Re: [AFMUG] Vendor for super high efficiency (Sunpower, etc) PV panels

4 weeks of batts will do the job... From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vendor for super high efficiency (Sunpower,etc) PV panels When it snows for 4 weeks straight (not kidding) there's no amount of panels and batts that can save

Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure?

Give me some dims and price point. I will check another vendor I know. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:00 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure? Idiots at Codale still have 100 count of our 14" NID box on

Re: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure?

We might be able to get you some Calix ONT boxes. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:00 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure? Idiots at Codale still have 100 count of our 14" NID box on backorder since forever and

Re: [AFMUG] i want this

Some cities us those. Have not seen in the U.S. but have in Europe. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] i want this between my house and garage, out to my patio, all around my house http://www.trenwa.com/component-trench/

Re: [AFMUG] Vendor for super high efficiency (Sunpower, etc) PV panels

When it snows for 4 weeks straight (not kidding) there's no amount of panels and batts that can save you. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:27 AM wrote: > 90 kWh/mo load is a 123 watt load. (123*24*30.4) > 123 * 20 = 2460 watts My rule of thumb for Utah. Assuming you have 2 > weeks

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

The problem with metered billing is that it doesn't solve the problem. The customer still purchased a game they want to download, or they have a 4K TV they want to watch movies on. Most people are just going to look for other options if they have to pay every time they try to use a device in

[AFMUG] Fwd: MIMO Grid for MIMOSA C5C

5ghz grid dish - wouldn't be great up north where we have lots of ice, but some in the south would find it useful. -- Forwarded message -- From: 金西荣 Date: Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:48 AM Subject: MIMO Grid for MIMOSA C5C To: cstann...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

The divide between urban and rural connectivity is widening at a terrifying pace. 10G is lower than 0.20/Mb in many places now. - Josh On Jun 21, 2017 10:51 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > metered billing.. wave of the future > > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Adam

Re: [AFMUG] i want this

Animal Heaven!!! On 06/21/2017 08:54 AM, Steve Jones wrote: between my house and garage, out to my patio, all around my house http://www.trenwa.com/component-trench/

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

At the same time, our bandwidth costs have dropped, our radios speeds are increasing like crazy, and radios costs and cost per Mbps have either dropped. I’ve seen prices at low as $.28 per Mbps on 10Gbps circuits and even with local loop transport, I’m paying under $1 per Mbps in most places

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: St. Louis Telecom Data Center FOR SALE

Very cool, I would love to, just have to dig up a few million :) On Wednesday, June 21, 2017, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Anyone Want to buy a Data Center in St. Louis ? > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games? Steve, +1 -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please

[AFMUG] Utah Local NID Enclosure?

Idiots at Codale still have 100 count of our 14" NID box on backorder since forever and I'm out of it now. Anyone have a good supplier that can somewhat quickly ship a good open plastic outdoor enclosure around 14" size? Any of us local Utah guys have a few I can buy and pick up to tie me

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

metered billing.. wave of the future On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I read some scary stuff the other day along a similar vein. > > Basically if you're selling 25mbps then you'll need a 4:1 oversubscription > ratio to support peak hours hi def

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

Duct is tough. You could use it as a tow rope. Just cut a slot on the side of the block, skip the duct into the slot and tie a piece of stainless wire around the block so the duct cannot come out of the slot if the block comes to rest with the slot up. We used tape to keep the blocks from

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

Yes, just need to strive to put the slot down when installing or wrap the block with some stainless wire. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network The slot is so you can slip it onto the duct without

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

out of curiousity, how would you drop the duct in with the cinderblocks? if its 40 feet deep, that would be 4 or more blocks suspended at any given time, would you just tie rope between them to keep the strain off the duct, or is the duct alone durable enough to handle it? On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

The slot is so you can slip it onto the duct without feeding it through each block? -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/21/2017 10:46:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network Yeah, even with a large count fiber it will still float.

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

Yeah, even with a large count fiber it will still float. If you can get those half cinder blocks and cut a slot in the side they work pretty good. I calculated how much additional weight you needed once but that was many years ago. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:40 AM

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

No, probably 2 feet under would solve it too. Just slightly buoyant. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network If you bored say 20 or 30 feet under the floor, would you still have floating issues?

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

If you bored say 20 or 30 feet under the floor, would you still have floating issues? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21,

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

Is that all it takes? Weights so it doesn't float? -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/21/2017 10:38:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network 1.25” is fine, but it will float. On a water crossing you will need cinder blocks every

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

1.25” is fine, but it will float. On a water crossing you will need cinder blocks every 10 feet or so to hold it down. Chop a hole out of one of the sides large enough so the duct can slip inside one of the cavities. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:47 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Contract clause needed for conduit ownership

I just posted the easement language. You could just get an easement and make sure to tag all your stuff. From: Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Contract clause needed for conduit ownership We are putting in conduit completely throughout

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

Easement Language: LIMITED UTILITY LINE EASEMENT AND RIGHT OF WAY Telecom Company and Land Owner with addresses at __ property owner (“Owner”) make this Limited Utility Line Easement and Right of Way (the “Agreement”) this _ day of June, 2017.

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

Handholes are made out of polymer concrete. You have to have extremely dry sand. Lime, very light weight small aggregate. You mix it all with polyester resin, like the stuff you make a boat out of. Not cheap nor easy. I made custom handhole lids for a time with our logo on them. From:

Re: [AFMUG] Vendor for super high efficiency (Sunpower, etc) PV panels

90 kWh/mo load is a 123 watt load. (123*24*30.4) 123 * 20 = 2460 watts My rule of thumb for Utah. Assuming you have 2 weeks of batts that is all you will need. You have 4140 watts of panel. That is 33X. No doubt it will work. Probably produces usable current in moonlight. Certainly

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

Normally, when a parcel is subdivided, a public utility easement (PUE) is recorded around the edge of all lots. 1.Normal duct, not fiber. 1a. I have never had a problem. But I have never asked permission. 2. One hand hole per two homes, on the property line between the two. 3. No, your

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

7. You don't need that large of duct for this, 1" or 1.25" at the most would be sufficient. Expect to pay around 0.25 per ft for 1" and 0.35 per ft for 1.25", ballpark numbers. 8. If it's going to all be in conduit, I would use 12F drop cable instead of "normal" loose tube cable. Actually on a

Re: [AFMUG] Ready for the Xbox one X and 100GB games?

this is why you need to build you networks to handle 50mbps and 100mbps plans to customers and then charge thme for this "special gamer package" a nice hefty price. If they have no other options they WILL pay for it... They crave it... On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:03 AM, Jeremy

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

Millennium is in the south suburbs of Chicago and great to work with. I've attached vCards of two of my contacts there. Just ask Jeremy for copies of the last few quotes I've gotten. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

[AFMUG] Contract clause needed for conduit ownership

We are putting in conduit completely throughout our business park (13 buildings with 4 to 10 units per building) and running fiber all through them. We have to do 10 missile bores, and a couple directional bores. A big investment. I am looking for some legal wording stating that my company

Re: [AFMUG] Unifi USG VPN

Wich one was it? I thought the final had it.. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 12:30 AM Brett A Mansfield < li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote: > Found it. It just wasn't clear in the release notes. > > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Brett A Mansfield < >

Re: [AFMUG] FirstNet

That depends if you mean FirstNet the AT awardee or FirstNet the set aside frequency band for public safety. No on the first, very few on the second. I think there are 3 public safety systems in the US constructed. We did the easy part, cold install of the core and some nodes. I think it took

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

We just did 2.7 miles for 10 peoplebut those 10 were willing to pay something substantial up front. It's no problem if they're paying for it. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 6/21/2017 2:12:53 AM

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

1. You want innerduct buried in the soil several feet under the water. Thia would be done by directional boring. 300ft is no problem. Probably "should" require erosion/sedmentation control permit and possibly wetlands study. But you can get away with about anything in a private location. 2.

Re: [AFMUG] OT..Hey Rory...we have a cold front

Wow, made it through our game, nobody passed out. On the hand, I beaned 3 guys in a row in the 6th inning which was a clue it was time to call it a night. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 8:19 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

I guess I should have run a 10 10. is anybody able to justify 8050+ feet for 8 customers ROI on fiber 10a. this is a testbed, unrelated to the WISP I work for other than I plan on backhauling into it for the boss, whether he owns the customers, I own the customers or the subdivision owns the