Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

2017-07-21 Thread chuck
: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. When I was eleven I was home alone and was temporarily held hostage in a home invasion. I was caught in mid-indecision about whether to threaten them with an unloaded .22 rifle or to try to sneak up upon them and brain them

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2017-07-21 Thread Jerry Head
pares with this". -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 5:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. It's about what happens in the instant. The red vision only lasted less than a minute and by the

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2017-07-21 Thread Cameron Crum
Word..to your mother if you are so inclined. On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:56 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > phat > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:34 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >

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2017-07-21 Thread chuck
phat From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:34 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Like it's Fly? I still use bitchin Jaime Solorza On Jul 21, 2017 8:24 AM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>

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2017-07-21 Thread Rory Conaway
Who cares what you call it, just leave it and grab the Cannoli… Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 7:34 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Like it's Fly? I still use

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2017-07-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
movies called them a “piece”. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:05 AM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >> Mitigation. >> >> Quete is slang for hand gun around

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2017-07-21 Thread Steve Jones
; Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> - Original Message ----- >> > From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >> > To: af@afmug.com

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2017-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Gangster movies called them a “piece”. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:05 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Quete is slang for hand gun around here Jaime Solorza On Jul 21, 2017 7:03 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz&

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2017-07-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
-- Original Message - > > From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > > To: af@afmug.com > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:11:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > > It's a scary feel

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2017-07-21 Thread Steve Jones
le) kids with me and I quickly escorted them into the store where we found a cop (presumably) hiding from the kids in the parking lot. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 7:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontatio

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2017-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown
. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 7:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. I get a real kick out of 'language' it's differences and word usage by folks from different areas ! (I learned Queen's

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2017-07-21 Thread Chuck McCown
es me options I am not sure I want myself to have. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making the

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2017-07-21 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:11:47 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitiga

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2017-07-20 Thread George Skorup
yself to have. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making the video). And so you are in agre

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2017-07-20 Thread Jay Weekley
to find out how well the flashlight held up being used like a bat. -- *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:08 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. alot is dependent

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2017-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown
Solorza Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 5:18 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. I watch the new hires go through training at security firm where I do contract work. Some will never be able to defend themselves hand to hand

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2017-07-20 Thread Jaime Solorza
I also remember > thinking "you have never truly been scared before, you might have though > you were scared but nothing compares with this". > > -Original Message- From: Robert > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 5:04 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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2017-07-20 Thread Robert Andrews
--Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 5:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. It's about what happens in the instant. The red vision only lasted less than a minute and by the time I got to the screen door it

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2017-07-20 Thread Robert Andrews
17 4:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Yeah no thanks. I did my time going into strangers houses troubleshooting networking problems and what not. Never again. Some houses you need a hazmat suit just to get within a quarter mi

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2017-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown
sday, July 20, 2017 5:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. It's about what happens in the instant. The red vision only lasted less than a minute and by the time I got to the screen door it had faded. BUT if I had the means to kill

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2017-07-20 Thread Robert
have. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making the video). And so you are in agreement that :- &q

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2017-07-20 Thread Chuck McCown
Wright Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Yeah no thanks. I did my time going into strangers houses troubleshooting networking problems and what not. Never again. Some houses you need a hazmat suit

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2017-07-20 Thread Chris Wright
, crazies, etc. I’ll stick to my cubicle, thankyouverymuch! Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. I

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2017-07-20 Thread Jeremy
ut how well the flashlight held up being > used like a bat. > > > > > > -- > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:08 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Prote

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2017-07-20 Thread George Skorup
options I am not sure I want myself to have. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making the video). And so

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2017-07-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
inal Message - > From: "Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:04:40 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. > Yes, after going back and forth with lawyers I learned a) only th

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2017-07-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
ot be the better, smarter or wiser way of dealing with such ! >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Op

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2017-07-20 Thread Robert
ife) came to regret her actions. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. I came home early from a sailboat race when I was 36. We finished early and I came home a

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2017-07-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Imtiaz > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. > > LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making the > video). > > And so you are in agree

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2017-07-20 Thread chuck
--Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. I came home early from a sailboat race when I was 36. We finished early and I came home a day early and found my wife in my

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2017-07-20 Thread Robert
... Packing a weapon gives me options I am not sure I want myself to have. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did

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2017-07-20 Thread George Skorup
*Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making the video). And so you are in agreement that :- "If you allow your crews to pack

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2017-07-20 Thread Steve Jones
-5518> Option 2 or Email: > supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ---------- > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:06:01 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > >

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2017-07-20 Thread chuck
Gun control is pretty political... Packing a weapon gives me options I am not sure I want myself to have. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. LOL ! and I believe

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2017-07-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. > Call cops. > Duck for cover. > Administer first aid if you can do so without getting killed. > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:05 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew

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2017-07-20 Thread chuck
Call cops. Duck for cover. Administer first aid if you can do so without getting killed. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Let's turn this into a productive conversation

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2017-07-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Let's turn this into a productive conversation, with relevance... We all have crews working outside... so what should be the SOP for them, under such circumstances ? What type of training do we need to provide to assure everyone's safety ? What should be the reactions expected from the OSP