Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Just curious... does the rackinjector show the port in a tripped state
afterwards?

I'm assuming this boots just fine without the surge suppressor?

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> FYI,
>
> I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered Medusa
> the other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 seconds, and then
> shuts down.
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have the
>> issue it seems.
>> I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different
>> design that eliminates the steering diodes.
>> Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some
>> situations.
>>
>> *From:* George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not
>> as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable
>> with on the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've
>> broken the shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential
>> ground loop issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I
>> don't know.
>>
>> On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> What's this gas tube product placement?
>> I want to see these
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.
>>>
>>> Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of
>>> equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to
>>> identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only
>>> products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them
>>> on.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Matt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
>>> not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
>>> though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
>>> out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
>>> even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
>>> Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
>>> so far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
>>> > Matt,
>>> >
>>> > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube
>>> version
>>> > to see if that fixes the issue.
>>> >
>>> > Inquiring minds want to know...
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message- From: Matt
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>> >
>>> >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>> >>
>>> >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>> >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>> >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>> >>
>>> >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>> >> before.
>>> >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
>>> > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
>>> > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
>>> > equipment safe?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>



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Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett

Nookular Surge Suppressor™


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/9/2018 1:34:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa


i vote MT radioactive tubes

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:41 AM,  wrote:
They are light sensitive if they are made out of glass.  Not so much 
with the ceramics.
The mixture of gasses set the breakdown voltage.  The ones I use fire 
at about 90 volts.


I remember working at sites where the gas tubes were filled with 
radioactive gases.


From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:23 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa


I thought it took hundreds of volts to trigger a gas tube.

Aren't some of them light sensitive?  What if the APC chassis was near 
a window and getting direct sunlight?



-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/9/2018 12:00:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa



Funny, the product is so simple.  Jacks.  Tubes.

Electrodes with gas between them from the Ethernet lines to ground.

The only way the tubes can affect the circuit is if they are ionized, 
which means a high voltage coming from somewhere.  could be coming 
from a ground loop or ???


Or a tube could be bad, or there could be a solder bridge but the 
test and inspection procedure should have caught that.



From:Sam Lambie
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:56 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa


FYI,

I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered 
Medusa the other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 
seconds, and then shuts down.


On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM,  wrote:
I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have 
the issue it seems.
I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a 
different design that eliminates the steering diodes.
Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some 
situations.


From:George Skorup
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa


No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. 
Obviously not as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors 
than I'm comfortable with on the cards with diodes. Rev G is 
definitely better though. I've broken the shield at various sites 
while testing to rule out any potential ground loop issues. Ran on 
battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I don't know.


On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

What's this gas tube product placement?
I want to see these

On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:

Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types 
of
equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  
Trying to
identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube 
only
products seem to be flawless with everything that people have 
tried them on.


-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa


Chuck,

Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and 
RJ45
not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb 
version
though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  
Swapped
out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far 
flawless

even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks 
good

so far.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas 
tube version

> to see if that fixes the issue.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa

>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power 
that is

>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a 
Medusa

>> before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit 
ethernet
> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync 
though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still 
keep

> equipment safe?







--
--
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
i vote MT radioactive tubes

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:41 AM,  wrote:

> They are light sensitive if they are made out of glass.  Not so much with
> the ceramics.
> The mixture of gasses set the breakdown voltage.  The ones I use fire at
> about 90 volts.
>
> I remember working at sites where the gas tubes were filled with
> radioactive gases.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> I thought it took hundreds of volts to trigger a gas tube.
>
> Aren't some of them light sensitive?  What if the APC chassis was near a
> window and getting direct sunlight?
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 5/9/2018 12:00:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
>
> Funny, the product is so simple.  Jacks.  Tubes.
>
> Electrodes with gas between them from the Ethernet lines to ground.
>
> The only way the tubes can affect the circuit is if they are ionized,
> which means a high voltage coming from somewhere.  could be coming from a
> ground loop or ???
>
> Or a tube could be bad, or there could be a solder bridge but the test and
> inspection procedure should have caught that.
>
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:56 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> FYI,
>
> I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered Medusa
> the other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 seconds, and then
> shuts down.
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have the
>> issue it seems.
>> I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different
>> design that eliminates the steering diodes.
>> Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some
>> situations.
>>
>> *From:* George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not
>> as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable
>> with on the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've
>> broken the shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential
>> ground loop issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I
>> don't know.
>>
>> On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> What's this gas tube product placement?
>> I want to see these
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.
>>>
>>> Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of
>>> equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to
>>> identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only
>>> products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them
>>> on.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Matt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
>>> not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
>>> though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
>>> out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
>>> even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
>>> Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
>>> so far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
>>> > Matt,
>>> >
>>> > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube
>>> version
>>> > to see if that fixes the issue.
>>> >
>>> > Inquiring minds want to know...
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message- From: Matt
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>> >
>>> >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>> >>
>>> >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>> >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>> >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>> >>
>>> >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>> >> before.
>>> >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
>>> > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
>>> > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
>>> > equipment safe?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
They are light sensitive if they are made out of glass.  Not so much with the 
ceramics.
The mixture of gasses set the breakdown voltage.  The ones I use fire at about 
90 volts.  

I remember working at sites where the gas tubes were filled with radioactive 
gases.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

I thought it took hundreds of volts to trigger a gas tube.

Aren't some of them light sensitive?  What if the APC chassis was near a window 
and getting direct sunlight?


-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/9/2018 12:00:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

  Funny, the product is so simple.  Jacks.  Tubes.  

  Electrodes with gas between them from the Ethernet lines to ground.  

  The only way the tubes can affect the circuit is if they are ionized, which 
means a high voltage coming from somewhere.  could be coming from a ground loop 
or ???

  Or a tube could be bad, or there could be a solder bridge but the test and 
inspection procedure should have caught that.  


  From: Sam Lambie 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:56 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

  FYI, 

  I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered Medusa the 
other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 seconds, and then shuts 
down.

  On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM,  wrote:

I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have the 
issue it seems.  
I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different 
design that eliminates the steering diodes.
Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some situations.  

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not 
as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable with 
on the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've broken the 
shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential ground loop 
issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I don't know.


On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

  What's this gas tube product placement? 
  I want to see these

  On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:

Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of 
equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to 
identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only 
products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried 
them on.

-Original Message- 
From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

Chuck,

Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
so far.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube 
version
> to see if that fixes the issue.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
    > To: af@afmug.com
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that 
is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa 
>> before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> equipment safe? 








  -- 

  -- 
  Sam Lambie
  Taosnet Wireless Tech.
  575-758-7598 Office
  www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett

I thought it took hundreds of volts to trigger a gas tube.

Aren't some of them light sensitive?  What if the APC chassis was near a 
window and getting direct sunlight?



-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/9/2018 12:00:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa


Funny, the product is so simple.  Jacks.  Tubes.

Electrodes with gas between them from the Ethernet lines to ground.

The only way the tubes can affect the circuit is if they are ionized, 
which means a high voltage coming from somewhere.  could be coming from 
a ground loop or ???


Or a tube could be bad, or there could be a solder bridge but the test 
and inspection procedure should have caught that.



From:Sam Lambie
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:56 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

FYI,

I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered 
Medusa the other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 
seconds, and then shuts down.


On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM,  wrote:
I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have 
the issue it seems.
I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a 
different design that eliminates the steering diodes.
Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some 
situations.


From:George Skorup
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa


No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously 
not as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm 
comfortable with on the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better 
though. I've broken the shield at various sites while testing to rule 
out any potential ground loop issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. 
Noise or something, I don't know.


On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

What's this gas tube product placement?
I want to see these

On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:

Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types 
of
equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying 
to

identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only
products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried 
them on.


-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa


Chuck,

Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb 
version
though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  
Swapped

out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks 
good

so far.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube 
version

> to see if that fixes the issue.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with 
Medusa

>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power 
that is

>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a 
Medusa

>> before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit 
ethernet

> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still 
keep

> equipment safe?







--
--
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
Funny, the product is so simple.  Jacks.  Tubes.  

Electrodes with gas between them from the Ethernet lines to ground.  

The only way the tubes can affect the circuit is if they are ionized, which 
means a high voltage coming from somewhere.  could be coming from a ground loop 
or ???

Or a tube could be bad, or there could be a solder bridge but the test and 
inspection procedure should have caught that.  


From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

FYI, 

I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered Medusa the 
other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 seconds, and then shuts 
down.

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM,  wrote:

  I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have the issue 
it seems.  
  I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different 
design that eliminates the steering diodes.
  Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some situations.  

  From: George Skorup 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

  No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not as 
much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable with on 
the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've broken the 
shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential ground loop 
issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I don't know.


  On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

What's this gas tube product placement? 
I want to see these

On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:

  Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

  Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of 
  equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to 
  identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only 
  products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them 
on.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Matt
  Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

  Chuck,

  Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
  not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
  though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
  out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
  even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
  Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
  so far.



  On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
  > Matt,
  >
  > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube 
version
  > to see if that fixes the issue.
  >
  > Inquiring minds want to know...
  >
  > -Original Message- From: Matt
  > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
  > To: af@afmug.com
  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
  >
  >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
  >>
  >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
  >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
  >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
  >>
  >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa 
  >> before.
  >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
  >
  >
  > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
  > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
  > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
  > equipment safe? 








-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/cat6-100-gas-discharge-tube-rack-mount-surge-protector/

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

What's this gas tube product placement? 
I want to see these

On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:

  Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

  Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of 
  equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to 
  identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only 
  products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them on.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Matt
  Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

  Chuck,

  Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
  not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
  though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
  out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
  even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
  Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
  so far.



  On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
  > Matt,
  >
  > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version
  > to see if that fixes the issue.
  >
  > Inquiring minds want to know...
  >
  > -Original Message- From: Matt
  > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
  > To: af@afmug.com
  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
  >
  >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
  >>
  >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
  >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
  >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
  >>
  >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa 
  >> before.
  >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
  >
  >
  > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
  > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
  > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
  > equipment safe? 



Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Sam Lambie
FYI,

I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit  Packetflux Powered Medusa
the other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 seconds, and then
shuts down.

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM,  wrote:

> I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have the
> issue it seems.
> I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different
> design that eliminates the steering diodes.
> Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some
> situations.
>
> *From:* George Skorup
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not
> as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable
> with on the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've
> broken the shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential
> ground loop issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I
> don't know.
>
> On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> What's this gas tube product placement?
> I want to see these
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.
>>
>> Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of
>> equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to
>> identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only
>> products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them
>> on.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Matt
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
>> not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
>> though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
>> out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
>> even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
>> Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
>> so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
>> > Matt,
>> >
>> > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube
>> version
>> > to see if that fixes the issue.
>> >
>> > Inquiring minds want to know...
>> >
>> > -Original Message- From: Matt
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>> >
>> >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>> >>
>> >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>> >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>> >>
>> >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>> >> before.
>> >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>> >
>> >
>> > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
>> > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
>> > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
>> > equipment safe?
>>
>>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
I am going to chase this down.  Only certain types of products have the issue 
it seems.  
I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different design 
that eliminates the steering diodes.
Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some situations.  

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not as 
much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable with on 
the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've broken the 
shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential ground loop 
issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. Noise or something, I don't know.


On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

  What's this gas tube product placement? 
  I want to see these

  On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:

Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of 
equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to 
identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only 
products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them on.

-Original Message- 
From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

Chuck,

Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
so far.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version
> to see if that fixes the issue.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
    > To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa 
>> before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> equipment safe? 





Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread George Skorup
No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously 
not as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm 
comfortable with on the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better 
though. I've broken the shield at various sites while testing to rule 
out any potential ground loop issues. Ran on battery. Etc. It's weird. 
Noise or something, I don't know.


On 5/9/2018 10:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

What's this gas tube product placement?
I want to see these

On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of
equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.
Trying to
identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only
products seem to be flawless with everything that people have
tried them on.

-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
Medusa

Chuck,

Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all. Swapped
out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
so far.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas
tube version
> to see if that fixes the issue.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
Medusa
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power
that is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>> before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> equipment safe?





Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
What's this gas tube product placement?
I want to see these

On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM  wrote:

> Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.
>
> Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of
> equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to
> identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only
> products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them
> on.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> Chuck,
>
> Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
> not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
> though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
> out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
> even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
> Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
> so far.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube
> version
> > to see if that fixes the issue.
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know...
> >
> > -----Original Message- From: Matt
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
> >
> >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
> >>
> >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
> >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
> >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
> >>
> >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
> >> before.
> >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
> >
> >
> > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> > equipment safe?
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck

Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs.

Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday.  Some types of 
equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors.  Trying to 
identify the bad combinations.  Good thing is that our gas tube only 
products seem to be flawless with everything that people have tried them on.


-Original Message- 
From: Matt

Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

Chuck,

Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
so far.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:

Matt,

I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version
to see if that fixes the issue.

Inquiring minds want to know...

-Original Message- From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa


OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
causing the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa 
before.

I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.



I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
equipment safe? 




Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
Promises promises :)

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 7:44 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Let me rephrase..to be more complete.
>
> There are some docs, they're hard to find.  They're also not very pretty
> and assume knowledge that some of our customers don't have.   This is what
> we're fixing.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:39 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
>> fixing this.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
>>> documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
>>> guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board.
>>>> Top left I believe.
>>>>
>>>> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
>>>> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
>>>> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
>>>> That's probably ungood.
>>>>
>>>> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
>>>> again and see if the port trips.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
>>>> Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other
>>>> locations for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure
>>>> that the jumpers are set correctly.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>>>>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from 
>>>>> Syncbox
>>>>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>>>>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to
>>>>> RTFM for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me
>>>>> to the manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these
>>>>> things...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How long of a wire?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the
>>>>>>>> Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power
>>>>>>>>> that is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>>>>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor
>>>>>>>>> with Medu

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread George Skorup
Matt, exactly which card is that? Is that gas-tube only? I did some 
extensive testing at a site yesterday for Chuck. The more data we can 
give him the better we'll all be.


On 5/9/2018 9:08 AM, Matt wrote:

Chuck,

Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
so far.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:

Matt,

I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version
to see if that fixes the issue.

Inquiring minds want to know...

-Original Message- From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa


OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
causing the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.


I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
equipment safe?




Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Matt
Chuck,

Like form factor of new arrestors much better.  Thicker PCB and RJ45
not as tall.  They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version
though.  Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all.  Swapped
out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago.  So far flawless
even at 1000base.  No errors at all.  This is with RackInjector,
Cambium Sync and very long cat-5 runs.  Time will tell but looks good
so far.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version
> to see if that fixes the issue.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> equipment safe?


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-06 Thread chuck
Send me shipping address.  

From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 8:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

Chuck, 
I'll be your guinea pig.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Matt  wrote:

  Been busy working out of office.  I already have some ordered.  I do
  not have any medusa 'yet' just lots of PTP450i and PMP450i.  Will let
  you know.

  Thanks!


  On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
  > Matt,
  >
  > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version
  > to see if that fixes the issue.
  >
  > Inquiring minds want to know...
  >
  > -Original Message- From: Matt
  > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
  > To: af@afmug.com
  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
  >
  >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
  >>
  >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
  >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
  >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
  >>
  >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
  >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
  >
  >
  > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
  > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
  > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
  > equipment safe?





-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-06 Thread Sam Lambie
Chuck,
I'll be your guinea pig.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Matt  wrote:

> Been busy working out of office.  I already have some ordered.  I do
> not have any medusa 'yet' just lots of PTP450i and PMP450i.  Will let
> you know.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube
> version
> > to see if that fixes the issue.
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know...
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Matt
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
> >
> >> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
> >>
> >> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
> >> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
> >> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
> >>
> >> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
> before.
> >> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
> >
> >
> > I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> > even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> > Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> > equipment safe?
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-05 Thread Matt
Been busy working out of office.  I already have some ordered.  I do
not have any medusa 'yet' just lots of PTP450i and PMP450i.  Will let
you know.

Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 AM,   wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version
> to see if that fixes the issue.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> equipment safe?


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-04 Thread Sam Lambie
I got the Power AB pinout scheme now. In order to enable having 2 power
supplies on the SyncInjector, you would then choose whether you are using A
or B. Just talked to Debbie at PF. Big help.
Cheers All. Back to my happy place.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:29 AM,  wrote:

> Matt,
>
> I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version
> to see if that fixes the issue.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> equipment safe?
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-04 Thread chuck

Matt,

I sent you a note off-list.  I would like to send you the gas tube version 
to see if that fixes the issue.


Inquiring minds want to know...

-Original Message- 
From: Matt

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa


OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
causing the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.


I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
equipment safe? 



Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-04 Thread Sam Lambie
Thank You!
Last question, what is the left most jumper for? Spare?

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> 7,8 + 4,5- is standard canopy pinout, has to be that way for sync over
> power.
> Add:
> 3,6 + 1,2- for 450m.
>
> The 450m just wants two positive and two negatives, it really doesn't care
> which ones.   The ones I mentioned above seem to be the standard canopy
> method of doing this.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018, 10:06 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> This is what the jumpers are out of the box. Lets see if I got this
>> right. From Left to Right 7,8 +, 4,5+, Skip, 3,6 Nada, 1,2 Nada
>> I'm totally confused. I thought 4,5 should be - and 7,8 + for Mode A
>> Passive POE. Ugh, not enough coffee to get it.
>>
>> Please help
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Forrest,
>>> Please forgive me for my ignorance, but what jumpers are needed to make
>>> this puppy gigabit for the Cambium Medusa? I see: Pin 1 Upper 2, Pin 2
>>> Upper 2, Pin3 Bottom 2, Pins 4 and 5 Upper1
>>> Or is there documentation on how to set these puppies?
>>> Thanks
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:08 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt, sending you a note off list.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message- From: Matt
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>>
>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>>>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>>> before.
>>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
>>>> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
>>>> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
>>>> equipment safe?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>


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-- 
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Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
7,8 + 4,5- is standard canopy pinout, has to be that way for sync over
power.
Add:
3,6 + 1,2- for 450m.

The 450m just wants two positive and two negatives, it really doesn't care
which ones.   The ones I mentioned above seem to be the standard canopy
method of doing this.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018, 10:06 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> This is what the jumpers are out of the box. Lets see if I got this right.
> From Left to Right 7,8 +, 4,5+, Skip, 3,6 Nada, 1,2 Nada
> I'm totally confused. I thought 4,5 should be - and 7,8 + for Mode A
> Passive POE. Ugh, not enough coffee to get it.
>
> Please help
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Forrest,
>> Please forgive me for my ignorance, but what jumpers are needed to make
>> this puppy gigabit for the Cambium Medusa? I see: Pin 1 Upper 2, Pin 2
>> Upper 2, Pin3 Bottom 2, Pins 4 and 5 Upper1
>> Or is there documentation on how to set these puppies?
>> Thanks
>> Sam
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:08 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Matt, sending you a note off list.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message- From: Matt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>
>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>
>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>
>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>> before.
>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
>>> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
>>> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
>>> equipment safe?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-03 Thread Sam Lambie
Mode B is what I am pretty sure I need. Correct me if I am wrong.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:54 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> I am not using sync over power with the 450M. It is getting sync over the
> aux port.
> Just looking for gigabit 96w on all 4 pairs.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:59 AM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> See the diagram? Far left, straight over from the jumpers.
>>
>> Left to right: Source A /  +7&8 / -4&5 / nc3&6 / nc1&2
>>
>> Set 3&6 to + and 1&2 to -
>>
>> Connect +48/56VDC to PowerA, negative/return to common.
>>
>> You must leave it -4&5, +7&8 if you expect to provide sync over power to
>> a 450i. The radio will not see the sync pulse if that traditional Canopy
>> polarity isn't retained. The 450i doesn't necessarily need the other two
>> pairs, unless you're using POE out from the Aux port where you might need
>> the additional 25W. I've never used that, so I haven't bothered. It runs
>> fine on two pairs.
>>
>> On 4/3/2018 11:06 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>
>> This is what the jumpers are out of the box. Lets see if I got this
>> right. From Left to Right 7,8 +, 4,5+, Skip, 3,6 Nada, 1,2 Nada
>> I'm totally confused. I thought 4,5 should be - and 7,8 + for Mode A
>> Passive POE. Ugh, not enough coffee to get it.
>>
>> Please help
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Forrest,
>>> Please forgive me for my ignorance, but what jumpers are needed to make
>>> this puppy gigabit for the Cambium Medusa? I see: Pin 1 Upper 2, Pin 2
>>> Upper 2, Pin3 Bottom 2, Pins 4 and 5 Upper1
>>> Or is there documentation on how to set these puppies?
>>> Thanks
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:08 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt, sending you a note off list.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message- From: Matt
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>>
>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>>>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>>> before.
>>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
>>>> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
>>>> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
>>>> equipment safe?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <%28575%29%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>



-- 
-- 
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Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-03 Thread Sam Lambie
I am not using sync over power with the 450M. It is getting sync over the
aux port.
Just looking for gigabit 96w on all 4 pairs.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:59 AM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> See the diagram? Far left, straight over from the jumpers.
>
> Left to right: Source A /  +7&8 / -4&5 / nc3&6 / nc1&2
>
> Set 3&6 to + and 1&2 to -
>
> Connect +48/56VDC to PowerA, negative/return to common.
>
> You must leave it -4&5, +7&8 if you expect to provide sync over power to a
> 450i. The radio will not see the sync pulse if that traditional Canopy
> polarity isn't retained. The 450i doesn't necessarily need the other two
> pairs, unless you're using POE out from the Aux port where you might need
> the additional 25W. I've never used that, so I haven't bothered. It runs
> fine on two pairs.
>
> On 4/3/2018 11:06 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> This is what the jumpers are out of the box. Lets see if I got this right.
> From Left to Right 7,8 +, 4,5+, Skip, 3,6 Nada, 1,2 Nada
> I'm totally confused. I thought 4,5 should be - and 7,8 + for Mode A
> Passive POE. Ugh, not enough coffee to get it.
>
> Please help
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Forrest,
>> Please forgive me for my ignorance, but what jumpers are needed to make
>> this puppy gigabit for the Cambium Medusa? I see: Pin 1 Upper 2, Pin 2
>> Upper 2, Pin3 Bottom 2, Pins 4 and 5 Upper1
>> Or is there documentation on how to set these puppies?
>> Thanks
>> Sam
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:08 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Matt, sending you a note off list.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Matt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>
>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>
>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>
>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>> before.
>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
>>> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
>>> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
>>> equipment safe?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <%28575%29%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>
>
>


-- 
-- 
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Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-03 Thread George Skorup

See the diagram? Far left, straight over from the jumpers.

Left to right: Source A /  +7&8 / -4&5 / nc3&6 / nc1&2

Set 3&6 to + and 1&2 to -

Connect +48/56VDC to PowerA, negative/return to common.

You must leave it -4&5, +7&8 if you expect to provide sync over power to 
a 450i. The radio will not see the sync pulse if that traditional Canopy 
polarity isn't retained. The 450i doesn't necessarily need the other two 
pairs, unless you're using POE out from the Aux port where you might 
need the additional 25W. I've never used that, so I haven't bothered. It 
runs fine on two pairs.


On 4/3/2018 11:06 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
This is what the jumpers are out of the box. Lets see if I got this 
right. From Left to Right 7,8 +, 4,5+, Skip, 3,6 Nada, 1,2 Nada
I'm totally confused. I thought 4,5 should be - and 7,8 + for Mode A 
Passive POE. Ugh, not enough coffee to get it.


Please help

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Forrest,
Please forgive me for my ignorance, but what jumpers are needed to
make this puppy gigabit for the Cambium Medusa? I see: Pin 1 Upper
2, Pin 2 Upper 2, Pin3 Bottom 2, Pins 4 and 5 Upper1
Or is there documentation on how to set these puppies?
Thanks
Sam

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:08 AM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Matt, sending you a note off list.

-Original Message- From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor
with Medusa

OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the
power that is
causing the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with
a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.


I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit
ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better? Will they still keep
equipment safe?




-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*

Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598  Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>




--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>




Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-03 Thread Sam Lambie
Forrest,
Please forgive me for my ignorance, but what jumpers are needed to make
this puppy gigabit for the Cambium Medusa? I see: Pin 1 Upper 2, Pin 2
Upper 2, Pin3 Bottom 2, Pins 4 and 5 Upper1
Or is there documentation on how to set these puppies?
Thanks
Sam

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:08 AM,  wrote:

> Matt, sending you a note off list.
>
> -Original Message- From: Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>
>
> I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
> even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
> Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
> equipment safe?
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-04-02 Thread chuck

Matt, sending you a note off list.

-Original Message- 
From: Matt

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa


OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
causing the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.


I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
equipment safe? 



Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-28 Thread chuck

They will keep equipment safe.

-Original Message- 
From: Matt

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa


OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
causing the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.


I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
equipment safe? 



Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-28 Thread Matt
> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>
> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>
> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.

I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
equipment safe?


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
These do  ship with a sticker, which says something to this effect.  Don't
remember the exact phrasing, probably need to review it as it may not be as
clear as I like.

I also think you'll like what we're doing to simplify the documentation for
our PoE and sync Products.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:55 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> I feel like I have a good handle on your products and what they can do
> Forrest, but even a sticker on those products that let you know that you
> should make sure that you check your jumper settings before use would be
> good. Otherwise, your gear rocks and I appreciate it all.
>
> Sam
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Let me rephrase..to be more complete.
>>
>> There are some docs, they're hard to find.  They're also not very pretty
>> and assume knowledge that some of our customers don't have.   This is what
>> we're fixing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:39 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
>>> fixing this.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
>>>> documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
>>>> guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup <
>>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board.
>>>>> Top left I believe.
>>>>>
>>>>> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
>>>>> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
>>>>> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other 
>>>>> return).
>>>>> That's probably ungood.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
>>>>> again and see if the port trips.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync
>>>>> - Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other
>>>>> locations for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure
>>>>> that the jumpers are set correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>>>>>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from 
>>>>>> Syncbox
>>>>>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>>>>>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to
>>>>>> RTFM for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me
>>>>>> to the manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these
>>>>>> things...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How long of a wire?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the
>>>>>>>>> Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the p

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-27 Thread Sam Lambie
I feel like I have a good handle on your products and what they can do
Forrest, but even a sticker on those products that let you know that you
should make sure that you check your jumper settings before use would be
good. Otherwise, your gear rocks and I appreciate it all.

Sam

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Let me rephrase..to be more complete.
>
> There are some docs, they're hard to find.  They're also not very pretty
> and assume knowledge that some of our customers don't have.   This is what
> we're fixing.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:39 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
>> fixing this.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
>>> documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
>>> guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board.
>>>> Top left I believe.
>>>>
>>>> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
>>>> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
>>>> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
>>>> That's probably ungood.
>>>>
>>>> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
>>>> again and see if the port trips.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
>>>> Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other
>>>> locations for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure
>>>> that the jumpers are set correctly.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>>>>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from 
>>>>> Syncbox
>>>>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>>>>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to
>>>>> RTFM for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me
>>>>> to the manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these
>>>>> things...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How long of a wire?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the
>>>>>>>> Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power
>>>>>>>>> that is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>>>>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Let me rephrase..to be more complete.

There are some docs, they're hard to find.  They're also not very pretty
and assume knowledge that some of our customers don't have.   This is what
we're fixing.




On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:39 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
> fixing this.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
>> documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
>> guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board. Top
>>> left I believe.
>>>
>>> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
>>> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
>>> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
>>> That's probably ungood.
>>>
>>> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
>>> again and see if the port trips.
>>>
>>> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
>>> Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other locations
>>> for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure that the
>>> jumpers are set correctly.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>>>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox
>>>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>>>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM
>>>> for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
>>>> manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How long of a wire?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the
>>>>>>> Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that
>>>>>>>> is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>>>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>>>>>>> Medusa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>>>>>>>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When this gets sent
>>>>>>>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
fixing this.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
> documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
> guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board. Top
>> left I believe.
>>
>> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
>> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
>> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
>> That's probably ungood.
>>
>> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
>> again and see if the port trips.
>>
>> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>
>> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
>> Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other locations
>> for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure that the
>> jumpers are set correctly.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox
>>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM
>>> for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
>>> manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>>>
>>>>> How long of a wire?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
>>>>>> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that
>>>>>>> is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>>>>>> Medusa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>>>>>>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When this gets sent
>>>>>>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
>>>>>>>> ground fixes the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the
>>>>>>>> new timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>>>>>>>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Sam Lambie
Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board. Top
> left I believe.
>
> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
> That's probably ungood.
>
> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
> again and see if the port trips.
>
> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
> Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other locations
> for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure that the
> jumpers are set correctly.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox
>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM
>> for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
>> manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>>
>>>> How long of a wire?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
>>>>> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that
>>>>>> is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>>>> before.
>>>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>>>>> Medusa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>>>>>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When this gets sent
>>>>>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
>>>>>>> ground fixes the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the
>>>>>>> new timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>>>>>>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is
>>>>>>> just accumulating.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>>>>>> Medusa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yo smart folks,
>>>>>>>
>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread George Skorup
Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board. Top 
left I believe.


The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you 
just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much 
trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other 
return). That's probably ungood.


Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS 
again and see if the port trips.


On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
Well, since I don't have any spares of the *PowerInjector Plus Sync - 
Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other 
locations for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make 
sure that the jumpers are set correctly.


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>> wrote:


GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing
from Syncbox jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to
RTFM for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please
point me to the manual? I have never been able to find any
documentation on these things...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:

Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List
Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com>>
wrote:

Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?

How long of a wire?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie
mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going
through the Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version
a shot if you got it.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
There may be something unusual with timing pulses
on the power that is causing the surge suppressor
to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.
I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my
product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the
problem.
*From:* Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
            *To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge
suppressor with Medusa
I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no
change, however, I didn't reboot it while the card
was floating.
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM, 
wrote:

When this gets sent
Sorry you are having difficulty.
I would pull it from the rack and see if the
interruption of the ground fixes the problem.
The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
or
Transverse impulses getting clamped. Could be
something about the new timing stuff that I
don’t understand.
Forrest is probably better versed in thinking
about this than I am.
Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk
and the time delay is just accumulating.
*From:* Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge
suppressor with Medusa
Yo smart folks,
I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge
suppressor inline with a Cambium Medusa today.
It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then
the Packetflux SyncInjector shutdown. Tried
putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the
bench when I tested Sync (via Aux Jr) and
Power- Data. I never tested a surge
suppressor. Which ones work with the thing?
Chuck, What say you?
Sam
-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*

   

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Sam Lambie
Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other locations for
Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure that the jumpers
are set correctly.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy chained
> from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox jr via
> UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM
> for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
> manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>
>>> How long of a wire?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
>>>> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>>>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>>> before.
>>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>>>> Medusa
>>>>>
>>>>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>>>>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When this gets sent
>>>>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
>>>>>> ground fixes the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the
>>>>>> new timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>>>>>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is
>>>>>> just accumulating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yo smart folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>>>>>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>>>>>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>>>>>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync 
>>>>>> (via
>>>>>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones 
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> with the thing?
>>>>>> Chuck, What say you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Sam Lambie
GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy chained
from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from Syncbox jr via
UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to RTFM for
the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me to the
manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these things...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>
>> How long of a wire?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
>>> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>>
>>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>>
>>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>>> before.
>>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>>> Medusa
>>>>
>>>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>>>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When this gets sent
>>>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
>>>>> ground fixes the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>>>> or
>>>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
>>>>> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>>>>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is
>>>>> just accumulating.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>>>
>>>>> Yo smart folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>>>>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>>>>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>>>>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
>>>>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones 
>>>>> work
>>>>> with the thing?
>>>>> Chuck, What say you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>
>>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>
> How long of a wire?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
>> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>>
>>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>>
>>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
>>> before.
>>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>>> Medusa
>>>
>>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> When this gets sent
>>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>>
>>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground
>>>> fixes the problem.
>>>>
>>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>>> or
>>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
>>>> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>>>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just
>>>> accumulating.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>>
>>>> Yo smart folks,
>>>>
>>>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>>>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>>>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>>>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
>>>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
>>>> with the thing?
>>>> Chuck, What say you?
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?

How long of a wire?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power
> Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
>> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I
>> didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> When this gets sent
>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>
>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground
>>> fixes the problem.
>>>
>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>> or
>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
>>> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just
>>> accumulating.
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>>
>>> Yo smart folks,
>>>
>>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
>>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
>>> with the thing?
>>> Chuck, What say you?
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Sam Lambie
Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the Power Port.
I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:

> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>
> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>
> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I didn't
> reboot it while the card was floating.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>
>> When this gets sent
>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>
>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground
>> fixes the problem.
>>
>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>> or
>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
>> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>>
>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just
>> accumulating.
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>>
>> Yo smart folks,
>>
>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
>> with the thing?
>> Chuck, What say you?
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread chuck
OK, so grounds are related to the problem.  

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is causing 
the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.  

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.  


From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I didn't 
reboot it while the card was floating.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:

  When this gets sent
  Sorry you are having difficulty.

  I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground fixes 
the problem.

  The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
  or
  Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new timing 
stuff that I don’t understand.  
  Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.

  Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just 
accumulating.

  From: Sam Lambie 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

  Yo smart folks, 

  I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium Medusa 
today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux SyncInjector 
shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the SyncInjector and it 
worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via Aux Jr) and Power- Data. 
I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work with the thing?
  Chuck, What say you?

  Sam


  -- 

  -- 
  Sam Lambie
  Taosnet Wireless Tech.
  575-758-7598 Office
  www.Taosnet.com




-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Sam Lambie
I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however, I didn't
reboot it while the card was floating.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:

> When this gets sent
> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>
> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground
> fixes the problem.
>
> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
> or
> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new
> timing stuff that I don’t understand.
> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.
>
> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just
> accumulating.
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa
>
> Yo smart folks,
>
> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
> with the thing?
> Chuck, What say you?
>
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Sam Lambie
Traco  TSP 600-148

1 radio. Planning on 4 Radios Soon.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> What power supplies are you using with the medusa?  How many radios?
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 6:10 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Yo smart folks,
>>
>> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
>> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
>> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
>> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
>> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
>> with the thing?
>> Chuck, What say you?
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
What power supplies are you using with the medusa?  How many radios?

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 6:10 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Yo smart folks,
>
> I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium
> Medusa today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux
> SyncInjector shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the
> SyncInjector and it worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via
> Aux Jr) and Power- Data. I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work
> with the thing?
> Chuck, What say you?
>
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>


Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-03-25 Thread chuck
When this gets sent
Sorry you are having difficulty.

I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the ground fixes 
the problem.

The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
or
Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about the new timing 
stuff that I don’t understand.  
Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I am.

Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay is just 
accumulating.

From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

Yo smart folks, 

I put a gige APC HV rack mount surge suppressor inline with a Cambium Medusa 
today. It booted up, got in about 20 pings and then the Packetflux SyncInjector 
shutdown. Tried putting the Ethernet cable directly in the SyncInjector and it 
worked, just like on the bench when I tested Sync (via Aux Jr) and Power- Data. 
I never tested a surge suppressor. Which ones work with the thing?
Chuck, What say you?

Sam


-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com