[android-developers] Re: Non-USD prices causing credit card rejections

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
Google is losing a small amount, they get their cut on Checkout fees when a user buys. Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:03 PM, admin.androidsl...@googlemail.com admin.androidsl...@googlemail.com wrote: Just to add my comment from the other thread as I think its relevant

[android-developers] Android Market Survey running by Google

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
http://market.android.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=surveyforum=1hl=en Guess it's one place to express your opinions. Al. -- * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * == Funky Android Limited is registered in England Wales with the company number

[android-developers] Re: Set the DNS from an activity

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
It's not possible because it would create a security hole where applications could make users think they were going to www.mybankingsite.com whereas the DNS servers could be configured to send them anywhere. Al. Giorgio M. wrote: Anyone knows how i can set the DNS address from an activity

[android-developers] Re: Set the DNS from an activity

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
Why would there be?, as I said before to allow it creates a security problem. Al. Giorgio M. wrote: Are there other ways to do it from an application? (e.g. executing a shell command) thanks - Original Message - From: Al Sutton To: android-developers

[android-developers] Re: Sell applications on market

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
And ADC II was due by the end of last year. bouvetloz...@gmail.com wrote: we will enable priced app support in Q1 for developers operating in these countries in the following order: (1) United States and UK; (2) Germany, Austria and Netherlands; (3) France, Italy and Spain. By the end of

[android-developers] Re: (OT) Is the combination of Android Market and Google Checkout a joke?

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
I'm getting more and more tempted to open up paid-for apps on AndAppStore where all payments go directly to the developers account so they can set the TCs. Would this be something people would be interested in? Al. Semprebon wrote: It would be nice if some other pricing models were

[android-developers] Re: Set the DNS from an activity

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
If it's a fixed DNS server; http://forum.koolu.org/viewtopic.php?f=10t=61p=432hilit=DNS#p432 Al. Giorgio M. wrote: I use the android port on the freerunner and we have this problem. I have to set the DNS manually (setprop net.dns1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) each time from the shell, and it's very

[android-developers] Re: Set the DNS from an activity

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
dhcpd has issues in the current Koolu beta ; http://forum.koolu.org/viewtopic.php?f=10t=61p=371hilit=DNS#p371 Al. David Turner wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Giorgio M. ledz...@writeme.com mailto:ledz...@writeme.com wrote: I use the android port on the freerunner and we

[android-developers] Re: Set the DNS from an activity

2009-03-04 Thread Al Sutton
Instructions for which are at the end of that link. Al. David Turner wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com mailto:a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: If it's a fixed DNS server; then a trivial fix is to modify the init.rc file to setup the property

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-03-03 Thread Al Sutton
You might want to move this onto this thread; http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/803fe73023a24536/ Al. vendor wrote: Then, could you create a virtual partition for the secure dirs and encrypt it with key which only the System knows and when you flash

[android-developers] Re: Are you localizing an app? Do you want to be?

2009-03-03 Thread Al Sutton
As you can only buy consumer devices in the UK US I would suggest English should be the primary language for your application. Beyond that it really depends on where devices become available and which countries you wish to support. Al. http://andappstore.com/ Nanard wrote: Hi Us

[android-developers] Re: Are you localizing an app? Do you want to be?

2009-03-03 Thread Al Sutton
support in, because if your apps offers the language then you'll most likely see support requests in that language head your way now and again. Al. Nanard wrote: It's available in Germany ans Spain. And this week in France. I even had one customer for my application having a .jp mail adress

[android-developers] Re: Regarding ADB offline message

2009-03-03 Thread Al Sutton
If you're using Vista there is no fix. It's been broken for a while; http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/5c9b33eb9373327f Al. vrukesh wrote: Hi, We are using Android 2.6.25 Linux Kernel on ARM-based chip and have Android SDK 1.0r2 on PC. When building

[android-developers] Re: Any Listener for shake movement ?

2009-03-02 Thread Al Sutton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQwUZe5Ms08 About 20 seconds in. Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: Define shake. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:44 AM, gganesh ganesh@gmail.com wrote: hi, Is there any Listener able to listen for shake movement . when someone shakes the phone an event should

[android-developers] Re: Non-USD prices causing credit card rejections

2009-03-02 Thread Al Sutton
the plumber. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: Those questions about Market are at a level of detail that goes far beyond using the SDK, and the people who support the SDK have little or no visibility over that level of detail in the way Market works. Therefore, this discussion would be more appropriate

[android-developers] Re: Non-USD prices causing credit card rejections

2009-03-02 Thread Al Sutton
Thanks. It's *very* much appreciated. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: I've already dropped a note to someone inside Google who might have visibility over this issue. JBQ On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: * JBQ, this isn't aimed at you

[android-developers] Re: How to get more sales on the Android Market

2009-03-01 Thread Al Sutton
non-technical users do not use linux, whereas non-technical users do buy G1 phones Android, and hence the G1 is Linux based, therefore that statement can't be true. G1 users may avoid issuing shell commands, but they are still Linux users. Al. Inderjeet Singh wrote: The linux comparison

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-03-01 Thread Al Sutton
in their code and thus eliminate the possibility of attackers scanning for a constant class name or byte code pattern). Thanks for putting the effort in to continue the conversation to this point. Al. Jon Colverson wrote: On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: method

[android-developers] Re: Assuming Developers are Pirates

2009-03-01 Thread Al Sutton
The AndAppStore method can use the Android ID (source code is on the page Howie mentioned), and the Cupcake release adds measures to stop users altering the Android ID on the device which make it a more reliable thing to use. Al. Howie wrote: Al Sutton has developed something like

[android-developers] Re: Multi Touch Support

2009-03-01 Thread Al Sutton
That's only a US patent, so anyone other than Apple can use multi-touch, it's *only* if they have assets in the US that a problem arises. Al. Tseng wrote: Actually the chance on Multi-Touch support is next to zero. Apple was granted the patents for multi-touch, in other words no one other

[android-developers] Re: Assuming Developers are Pirates

2009-03-01 Thread Al Sutton
it vastly increase the effort needed to copy and run applications on another device. Al. Dianne Hackborn wrote: The whole premise of this discussion is wrong. What has happened is: 1. The developer asked for their application to be copy protected with forward locking. 2. The user is running

[android-developers] Re: Call the developer!!

2009-02-28 Thread Al Sutton
want to provide it and those who don't, and for those who don't want to provide it a method of removing the information has already been provided. Al. Mattaku Betsujin wrote: I didn't enter a support number. Google copied it from my developer profile. As I said in my last mail, 99.9

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-28 Thread Al Sutton
Jon Colverson wrote: On Feb 28, 7:06 am, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: This isn't neccessarily about encrypting applications, in fact the system at AndAppStore[1] doesn't rely on encrypting the application, it purely relies on using an encrypted piece of data which thae

[android-developers] Re: Call the developer!!

2009-02-28 Thread Al Sutton
for Google to send out one of their Market Update emails to alert developers to the problem and show the solution. Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: Al, while you are right (and so is the opposing side) it's Google who's to blame for this. Assumption is the mother of all evil, and Google assumed devs would

[android-developers] Re: Call the developer!!

2009-02-28 Thread Al Sutton
, and it was then made accessible to anyone capable of seeing the app on Market. So I think that your analogy is a little flawed. Al. JP wrote: On Feb 28, 9:52 am, Stoyan Damov stoyan.da...@gmail.com wrote: Where's the do no evil in this, huh? At first, I would be a little infuriated

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-28 Thread Al Sutton
involves a lot more effort than the other. Al. Jon Colverson wrote: On Feb 28, 6:09 pm, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: If you're talking about modifying the binary to remove the license checking, Yes, that's what I was getting at. I didn't want to simply say it because talking

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
://strazzere.com/blog/?p=185). So as it stands the Android Copy Protection mechanism isn't an effective form of DRM because the methods to circumvent it are already widely known, and so I would say that referring to it as DRM is, well, kind of wishful thinking. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: DRM

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
and fix the currently deployed copy protection mechanism. Al. P.S. Details of the AndAppStore scheme are at http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/licensing.jsp if you're interested. Steve Barr wrote: On 2/27/09, Jean-Baptiste Queru j...@android.com wrote: DRM in this discussion

[android-developers] Re: Android Market Business and Program Policies

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
that happened to one of the companies I'm involved in recently, and because we were able to provide the proof that the customer ordered it, and proof that they had not complained to us, the chargeback was rejected. Al. Inderjeet Singh wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Al Sutton

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
against the minority of users who rip them off by freely handing out copies of applications because at the level we're dealing with sales of 10 or 20 copies of an application per week can make a real difference to whether or not a developer carries on writing applications. Al. Jon Colverson

[android-developers] Re: Android Market Business and Program Policies

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
PayPal were the payment processor involved in the chargeback my company was involved in and they relied on us to provide the information. Al. Raymond C. Rodgers wrote: I haven't read through the terms recently, but it seems to me that Google will likely provide that same proof and try

[android-developers] Re: How to get more sales on the Android Market

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
for one. I don't know how this will play out over time, we may end up with an iPhone like market where paid-apps are common, we may end up with a Linux environment where people will still hack their code or make-do with a free piece of software. Only time will tell. Al. Ed Burnette wrote: What

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
a simple set of instructions to by-pass it. Al. [1] http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/licensing.jsp [2] http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2096 [3] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/07/25/rsa_poses_200_000_crypto/ Jon Colverson wrote: On Feb 27, 10:12 pm, Al Sutton

[android-developers] Re: Call the developer!!

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
Read the thread JBQ has pointed you at. It shows how to remove your 'phone number, and tells you why it's being shown. Al. Mattaku Betsujin wrote: Please take remove the number for ALL apps NOW! Who in their right mind would think of providing phone tech support for a .99 app

[android-developers] Re: Call the developer!!

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
Read the thread. It answers your concern. Al. Kevin E. Phillips, Sr. wrote: Yes, please for the love of all that is HOLY take this out of the marketplace. Isn't it enough we provide and email address and website? I cannot take the phone ringing 100 time a day asking when I am going

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
expert, the point I'm making is that Google, as an organisation, agreed to, designed, developed, and rolled out a solution which did not meet the needs of developers from day 1. Al. Jon Colverson wrote: On Feb 27, 10:12 pm, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: DRM tends to be based

[android-developers] Re: Call the developer!!

2009-02-27 Thread Al Sutton
their app, published it, didn't check the details, and hence have their number on show? Al. Mattaku Betsujin wrote: I have read his thread and changed my number to that of Paris Hilton. So if anyone wants to talk to a hot girl for support, get my app! But regardless, Google still should

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-26 Thread Al Sutton
access to paid apps for users with a device that easily copy them I suspect would go down worse than not allowing access to paid apps at all. Al. roland wrote: Check this out guys, http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-apps-from-dev-phone-1-users/ It seems Google

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-26 Thread Al Sutton
If you read the text you've quoted you'll find the answer from JBQ who is an Android engineer from Google If you're still uncertain, he posted a useful link; http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/search?group=android-developersq=adp1+updateqt_g=Search+this+group Al. http

[android-developers] Re: Developing an app using a retail phone

2009-02-26 Thread Al Sutton
Ditto... I'm guessing Marks' is a US one, mines UK, they're both fine for app dev Mark Murphy wrote: warwickhunter wrote: Can anyone confirm for me that if I purchase a retail Android phone, such as the HTC Dream (G1) that I can use it to develop applications? I own a G1, and I

[android-developers] Re: Can I pull a paid app from the Android Market?

2009-02-26 Thread Al Sutton
As I understand the TCs as long as the user is not affected then you should be fine. The only problem is I don't know if pulling the app from Market will force an uninstall on users devices. Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: Hi, It's been a week of non-stop issues and extremely unprofessional

[android-developers] Re: Dev Phone and RC33 update

2009-02-26 Thread Al Sutton
I'd be happy to go over how the AndAppStore licensing system works with one of more of you guys so that we can get a viable, working solution deployed. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: The problem is that you're fighting between two conflicting goals here: -the need to have a root-capable

[android-developers] Re: Google G2 / HTC Magic for developers?

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
Sorry to nit pick, but should that be will not be or did you mean ...is not... The only thing is that the Dream was not available as a developer 'phone until a couple of weeks after commercial launch (so that would be late April/early May for the Magic). Al. David Turner wrote

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Web Services (AWS) from Android

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
A contact I have inside Amazon is away on a couple of days of business meetings at the moment I've asked if there is anything they can do, so I may get some clarification back in the next couple of days as to what the problem may be. Al. Markus Junginger wrote: Don't give up on the AWS

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
Any real difference between the stats in it and the link I posted 5 days ago; http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/106dbc1a191a5e21/42552c0a4855c9e9?lnk=gstq=Al+Sutton+profit+is+open#42552c0a4855c9e9 Al. Tote wrote: You might be interested in this article, too

[android-developers] Re: Google G2 / HTC Magic for developers?

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
up a FreeRunner from Koolu, or use one of the ports for some of the commodity hardware that's already available (e.g. NITdroid on an N810). Al. Daniel wrote: On Feb 25, 1:51 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru j...@android.com wrote: I think that ADP1 makes a better development device (it's easier

[android-developers] Re: Google G2 / HTC Magic for developers?

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
JBQ, Are there any problems with the ADP1 build that you can share with the list, maybe someone here can help. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: It would take more effort to support 2 developer devices instead of 1. The current message from the developer community is crystal clear: the effort

[android-developers] Re: Google G2 / HTC Magic for developers?

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
I know a number of people felt a bit burned by buying a G1 only to find out a few weeks later we could have got an ADP1 which would have given a lot more freedom. I'd hate to see that happen again. Al. David Turner wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com

[android-developers] Re: Google G2 / HTC Magic for developers?

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
/libqcamera.so adb pull /system/lib/libgps.so proprietary/libgps.so adb pull /system/lib/libhgl.so proprietary/libhgl.so adb pull /system/etc/wifi/Fw1251r1c.bin proprietary/Fw1251r1c.bin adb pull /system/etc/wifi/tiwlan.ini proprietary/tiwlan.ini On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Al Sutton

[android-developers] Re: Self-Updating Package?

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
You might want to look at http://www.tomgibara.com/android/veecheck/ Al. Timo Bruck wrote: I'm looking for ideas on how to have a package that is not distributed through the Android Market (it's in closed Beta) upgrade itself. I had hoped to download the .apk file from my web server

[android-developers] Re: Phone Calls

2009-02-25 Thread Al Sutton
I'd put up a SkypeIn number, mobile, or something similar that you can turn off when you're Off duty. Al. joshbeck wrote: Apparently my home phone number, where my wife and kid are asleep at 7:30, is listed directly under my application. I'm good for customer support. I just prefer, and I

[android-developers] Re: Are looking for online android programming courses?

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
Can someone block this guy as a spammer? This is about the 4th or 5th time he's sent this to one of the android lists. dushyEDU wrote: Greeting to all.. If you're interested in learning how to develop top class games and applications for the iPhone, HTC Touch (Android), Instinct, WinMobile,

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Web Services (AWS) from Android

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
it over using the HTTPClient libraries. Parsing the response is simple enough, we use a SAXParser, feed it a DefaultHandler derived class written to parse the response, and then pull the result from the DefaultHandler derived class. Al. http://andappstore.com/ jjbunn wrote: Hello Al, Thanks

[android-developers] UK Developers

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
There's a support issue running at http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=5d08f29aeb3d9706 to raise the issue of only being able to list in local currencies. I'd urge UK developers to post their comments so that this can be raised up on Googles radar. Al

[android-developers] Re: Need help with my account

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
Maybe you want to take this up with the Google Groups support; http://groups.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy Al. Spongebob.Squarepants wrote: Isn't here really no graceful Pamela Fox, who might have a look onto what has happened to my real account neil.young

[android-developers] Re: Need help with my account

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
I'd guess your chances of getting Google Groups help on the Android-Developers list may be even less. Try prodding one of the Googlers directly, but you are at their mercy so there is no guarantee you'll ever get your old account unbanned. Al. spongebob.squarepants wrote: Hi Al, I already

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
Feel free to use http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/licensing.jsp As I understand things the Device ID in 4(c)(ii) should be unique for netbooks, phones, etc. because it's described as The Android ID (a unique 64-bit value) as a hex string. Al. http://andappstore.com/ Sena

[android-developers] Re: Why didn't google provide APIs for desktop widgets?

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
That's been solved many times before on other platforms. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: Because it's a hard problem. JBQ On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, quill quill...@163.com wrote: Hi, anyone who knows why? If I want to do this, is it extensive? Only change the code in launcher

[android-developers] Re: Why didn't google provide APIs for desktop widgets?

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
Just to go a bit further on this, I'd hope you'd be implementing at least a subset of http://desktop.google.com/plugins/ It's Google code, it'd bring a lot of widgets/gadgets onto Android in a short time frame, and would lessen the learning curve for many people. Al. Al Sutton wrote: That's

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
If it's any help Koolu are looking to ship over half a million devices with AndAppStore integrated into their image by the end of the year, so hopefully it'll give you the kind of traction we can use to wake Google up. Al. P.S. The AndAppStore licensing system isn't limited to AndAppStore

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
in Nitdroid the N810 port for one..). Al. Sena Gbeckor-Kove wrote: Interesting. Have you talked to Asus as well? From what I hear they've got full time staff working on Android for their netbooks. S On 24 Feb 2009, at 17:10, Al Sutton wrote: If it's any help Koolu are looking to ship

[android-developers] Re: Why didn't google provide APIs for desktop widgets?

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
Isn't that something that's already solved with the application permissions system and the cross cuts into the framework code which support it? Romain Guy wrote: That doesn't make it easy to do. The main issue is security. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Web Services (AWS) from Android

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
No problem. Don't give up on the AWS project just yet ;). Al. jjbunn wrote: Thanks Al! I took the precaution of asking Amazon for permission to use their Web Services before going any further with my application. Unhappily, they declined. So it looks like I will have to shelve the idea

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-24 Thread Al Sutton
And that is prohibited by the Market TCs. steve68 wrote: If you guys find Android Market has so many issues particular in billing area, then maybe just use it for marketing related applications while offering the true service from your own website? -- * Written an Android App?

[android-developers] Re: What's holding up UK paid app's

2009-02-23 Thread Al Sutton
And for app payments to be a bit more reliable. And for Google to check their TCs against UK law. . (I can see it being a few weeks) Al. AusR wrote: I think we are waiting for TMUK to pull their finger out! -- == Funky Android Limited is registered in England Wales

[android-developers] Re: Is this group moderated?

2009-02-23 Thread Al Sutton
But I bet there are times when you wish everyone was moderated :). Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/about Messages from new members are moderated JBQ On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:40 PM, neil.young neil.yo...@freenet.de wrote

[android-developers] Re: (a bit OT): Google Checkout help

2009-02-23 Thread Al Sutton
there is honestly very little you can do without risking him getting multiple refunds if Google sort the mess out. Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: Now I have to play a support person for Google Checkout too. I've got a customer who later cancelled his order and I got this message (via Google Checkout) from

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Web Services (AWS) from Android

2009-02-23 Thread Al Sutton
, and deletions in S3 and distribution through CloudFront. Al. jjbunn wrote: On Feb 22, 2:55 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: Many thanks ... this sounds like a good plan. However, there are quite a few of them, ten in total. 10 JARs? Which AWS service are you using

[android-developers] Re: (a bit OT): Google Checkout help

2009-02-23 Thread Al Sutton
As I read his email he's been actually charged and doesn't have a pending auth. Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: FWIW I found it: http://checkout.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=99752 ... Locate Refund When the seller refunds your order, your Google Checkout account should reflect

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-23 Thread Al Sutton
are currently handling feature roll-outs and general developer relations. Al. JP wrote: On Feb 22, 1:23 pm, Java Developer supp...@cyntacks.com wrote: Al, We finally made the decision to pull the plug too. I wonder how pro's that build things from scratch (i.e. do not leverage

[android-developers] Re: (a bit OT): Google Checkout help

2009-02-23 Thread Al Sutton
I think there are two camps in the Android world at the moment; those who can laugh at the problems, and those who are crying because of the effect it's had on them and their apps, I'm trying to stay in the former :) Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: Al, I see you're developing a sense of humor

[android-developers] Re: Market TOS question

2009-02-23 Thread Al Sutton
My company shelved development of a subscription service because Market can't handle subscription services in a sensible way. See http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/4fb4cfab8b079809 Al. http://andappstore.com/ Justin Binns wrote: First off, I know

[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?

2009-02-22 Thread Al Sutton
Personally I have the mental image of staff at Nokia pointing at people with G1's and giving the Nelson laugh (http://home.earthlink.net/~mail11325/_wav/Nelson_Laugh.wav) Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: Only if your apps are NOT protected, which is what I did. The protection is pretty ridiculous

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Web Services (AWS) from Android

2009-02-22 Thread Al Sutton
caveats. Al. jjbunn wrote: I have a simple app that uses AWS to lookup and fetch product information. This works fine on the desktop, using the Sun JRE. However, in trying to port this to Android I am hitting all sorts of problems, including first missing classes in javax.xml (specifically

[android-developers] Re: Timed trial expiry?

2009-02-21 Thread Al Sutton
http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/licensing.jsp Al. Craig wrote: Does anyone have a somewhat secure method of expiring a trial version of an app a certain amount of time after an install? I do not want to use a server, because I am making a game that shouldn't need

[android-developers] Re: Timed trial expiry?

2009-02-21 Thread Al Sutton
that the user could delete the file from the SD card if they wanted to, but Android is designed to leave nothing behind when an app is uninstalled, so it's probably the best option you have. Al. Al Sutton wrote: http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/licensing.jsp Al. Craig wrote: Does

[android-developers] Re: Market Apps Not Really Protected

2009-02-21 Thread Al Sutton
I'd say it's more of the lack of protection on protected apps that's been highlighted. None of what's done in that blog entry uses things that haven't been around for months, so I'd be interested to know why Google have just ignored it all and come up with an easily hackable solution. Al

[android-developers] Re: UK developers listing currency?

2009-02-20 Thread Al Sutton
must show the: * unit price or rate, excluding VAT * quantity of goods or the extent of the services * rate of VAT that applies to the items being sold * total amount payable, excluding VAT * rate of any cash discount * total amount of VAT charged Al. bouvetloz

[android-developers] Re: UK developers listing currency?

2009-02-20 Thread Al Sutton
show differing prices which can include any appropriate taxes for that region. As the moment Checkout and therefore Market are very much US centric and so cause a number of headaches for non-US developers even if you can get past the pricing and listing restrictions. Al. bouvetloz

[android-developers] Re: UK developers listing currency?

2009-02-20 Thread Al Sutton
on smaller companies so they treat everyone as if they might get involved in a VAT carousel, and hence keep a close eye on companies doing VAT import/export. Al. bouvetloz...@gmail.com wrote: Supposedly Google won't detail your income by countries, thus you can't divide it including/excluding taxes

[android-developers] Re: *** Why 1 G1 can see Paid Apps in the Android Market and Another Not? ***

2009-02-20 Thread Al Sutton
My guess would be a phased rollout based on device IDs. That way the scalability can be tested and rolled back if neccessary. Or, alternatively, they might think you're greedy having 2 G1s and so will only give you the service on 1 :) :) :). Al. Michael Martin wrote: *** Can anyone

[android-developers] How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
the right to refund a users subscription fee at any time without consulting us. So I'd be interested to know who else is in this boat because I think it's something that Google need to be made aware of so that can start addressing the problem. Al. -- == Funky Android Limited is registered

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
to both user and developer. I just feel sorry for all the devs who've currently got nothing for the $25 Google forced them to stump up when they signed up to the market. Al. madcoder wrote: Good luck with Google getting to your problem real quick-like. I was all on board with Android 110

[android-developers] Re: Paid applications - are they downloadable now?

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
Yup, and given the fun of the listings restoring last weekend, no-one will be in this weekend to fix the problems that arise. Al. nEx.Software wrote: Haha, yeah I suppose you are right. On Feb 19, 10:09 am, Mark K mark.ka...@gmail.com wrote: No paid apps yet on the market for users

[android-developers] Re: Paid applications - are they downloadable now?

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
beyond anyones definition of mid-week. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: Actually, it's really mid-week on the US west coast, it's thursday morning (before people start to work) on a 4-day week (monday was a holiday). JBQ On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM, nEx.Software justin.shapc...@gmail.com

[android-developers] Re: Paid applications - are they downloadable now?

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
they're call, but, for me and the rest of the UK, we are now well out of the mid-week period and starting the enjoyable roll into the weekend. Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: Thanks for shooting the messenger. Always a pleasure. beyond anyones definition of mid-week. ... except of course

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
the application away for free. Al. dar wrote: The http://www.android.com/market/terms/developer-content-policy.html states: Developers should only charge for applications and downloads from Android Market through the Market's Payment Processor. Developers may offer free applications as access points

[android-developers] Re: How many projects are being canned because of Market TCs

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
start work again. Al. nEx.Software wrote: Just out of curiosity... Why not simply sell from outside of the Market? I understand it is not as convenient to do so but maybe is the solution for you? Do we know what TeleNav is doing? Can't you follow their subscription model? On Feb 19, 10:11 am

[android-developers] Re: Market Copy Protection options

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
You don't even need adb on an unmodded 'phone; http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/be1f7d3d376e4d11/96c991164328afe4#96c991164328afe4 Dan Pou wrote: I believe it is possible to extract packages from the phone with the adb, without having modded the phone.

[android-developers] UK developers listing currency?

2009-02-19 Thread Al Sutton
Can anyone tell me if UK developers are still being forced to list in a currency that the only paying customers of Market aren't used to dealing with (i.e. British pounds), or can we list in the currency our potential customers use? Al. -- == Funky Android Limited is registered

[android-developers] Android Market Business and Program Policies

2009-02-18 Thread Al Sutton
a real train wreck of two different documents referring to the same system saying very different things!!! Al. http://andappstore.com/ -- == Funky Android Limited is registered in England Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road

[android-developers] Re: Android Market broken? Can't see the new release of my app in the Android Market?!

2009-02-18 Thread Al Sutton
Welcome to the non-Beta version of Marketplace Al. http://andappstore.com/ Mariano Kamp wrote: It's getting worse. Now the number of ratings and comments is down top zero. And that is on top of me fixing the description every couple of hours. 2009/2/17 Jon Colverson jjc1...@gmail.com

[android-developers] Re: IllegalThreadStateException when program is restored

2009-02-18 Thread Al Sutton
Have you put a try/catch block around the whole of your run method and logged any output? Al. Zombies and Robots wrote: I'm hoping somebody who is more familiar with Android's application life-cycle will be able to help me out here. I'm writing a game. From inside the game, I open a new

[android-developers] Re: Android Market Business and Program Policies

2009-02-18 Thread Al Sutton
. So isn't that giving Google free reign to do whatever it wants for apps less than $10 and neither the user nor the developer can object? To me that's pretty shady. Al. -- == Funky Android Limited is registered in England Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered

[android-developers] Re: How to wake up the screen?

2009-02-18 Thread Al
You can use a wakelock via the PowerManager. On Feb 18, 7:53 pm, kelly kellyschr...@gmail.com wrote: My wording here wasn't the clearest. I meant to say: I need to programmatically cause the display to light up. Is there a way to do this? I can get notifications when something else causes it

[android-developers] Re: Sending info via Handler

2009-02-18 Thread Al
.) On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Al alcapw...@googlemail.com wrote: I need to send some stuff to my gui thread and I'm doing this via a handler. But I regularly need to send more then 1 piece of information in one go and using the single Message.obj field won't work unless I use an Object

[android-developers] Re: Android Market broken? Can't see the new release of my app in the Android Market?!

2009-02-17 Thread Al Sutton
I'm afraid the only ones who can help you are Google, and I wish you all the best in trying to get an answer from them. Al. http://andappstore.com/ snctln wrote: This is definitely getting really annoying I am having to change my description to the new one every 2 hours or so because

[android-developers] Cupcake timeline fixed

2009-02-17 Thread Al Sutton
Accorrding to the BBC[1] the G2 that Vodafone are launching in April[2] comes with CupCake. Does this mean a release date has been fixed for cupcake? Al. http://andappstore.com/ [1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7894516.stm [2]http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/htc-magic

[android-developers] Selling your apps section in Market help

2009-02-16 Thread Al Sutton
http://market.android.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=15867 Highlights; - All fee information is shown in USD, GBP, EUR, AUD, and CAD so I think that tells us who is going to be able to sell apps in the coming months. - Allowable price ranges are $0.99 to $200 (YES $200 - Sheesh) or 0.50 GBP

[android-developers] Re: Selling your apps section in Market help

2009-02-16 Thread Al Sutton
Developers could always add a couple of features and charge for the feature added version. Al. Blake B. wrote: Ok, maybe I missed this along the way (or heard comments of this and couldn't believe it to be true), but this statement seems clear in the Setting the price of applications

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