Can anyone please explain why a linear PS should give better sound?
What is the technical difference?
Is the difference in sound quality significant even for a SqBox 3 with
up to 192 bits MP3 files?
Thanks.
Svein-Helge
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shlea
shlea;164196 Wrote:
Can anyone please explain why a linear PS should give better sound?
What is the technical difference?
Is the difference in sound quality significant even for a SqBox 3 with
up to 192 bits MP3 files?
Thanks.
Svein-Helge
Opinions vary. It is possible to make
tomjtx;164161 Wrote:
That is a GREAT price on the Lavry, I am jealous :-)
BUY IT NOW!!
I don't know where you are moving but I am sure you could sell it if
you don't like it and maybe make money.
Yea that is kind of what I was thinking too. Even if I find it to be
overkill I don't
thingfish;164211 Wrote:
So the SB should be maxed out, ok. Which unit should handle the volume
control then ? The amp or the Lavry ? Or both ? Im a little confused :)
As you mentioned in your initial posting, you have noticed that there
is no consensus of opinion around here. So let me throw
Skunk;163990 Wrote:
There's not much point in using a 3 amp supply with the Radioshack type
N, because it's only rated for 1 amp. Thanks Richidoo, for raising this
point in another thread.
Got a link for that thread?
By all means, use a Switchcraft plug if you have them available at the
cliveb;164218 Wrote:
As you mentioned in your initial posting, you have noticed that there is
no consensus of opinion around here. So let me throw in my own
thoughts.
1. Amplifiers. The best preamp possible is no preamp at all. If the
Squeezebox is going to be your only source, go with
thingfish;164139 Wrote:
Any advice on good amps that doesn't mean I have to sell the house ?
Generally speaking that is
What kind of house? ;-)
Seriously...any thoughts on a budget range?
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I've been looking for several months now at buying a new hifi set for
the new house. The budget was about 2500 (roughly equals $2500). This
took a new turn after I discovered Squeezebox. Especially after playing
around with SoftSqueeze the past week, I'm totally convinced that I want
to have a
thingfish;164224 Wrote:
I haven't thought about that kind of speakers yet but it makes sense
since I like that clean quality. I am not fixed on the Stridbecks BTW.
Does using such speakers mean that there would be no need at all for an
amp ?
Yes, active studio monitors have built-in power
Squid;164231 Wrote:
I've been looking for several months now at buying a new hifi set for
the new house. The budget was about 2500 (roughly equals $2500). This
took a new turn after I discovered Squeezebox. Especially after playing
around with SoftSqueeze the past week, I'm totally
My advice is the same as Tomsi42...get the best speakers and amp with
the money now - you can always get a dac later. A linear supply is £20
in the UK.
Look for 30-40% amp and 60-70% on speakers as a very rough guide.
Don't forget an external USB2 backup hard disk (£115 for 500Gb).
Also, some
With the notable exception of ATC's (which are v good and v expensive),
Harbeths and BW's, I personally haven't heard full size studio
monitors that sounded truly great in a normal domestic setting. Don't
forget they are usually optimised to sound OK in a heavily treated
control room / mastering
aybee;164252 Wrote:
Yup 'my' CPC units are both Stontronics, both ran hot and the first one
(which lasted the longest don't forget) gave off a smell at first.
Having read that old thread I may break one open just to see what is
inside.
Alan
Alan - v interesting - if you do break one
...and I've just smelt it (having read your post again). It seems OK.
I'm guessing there's not much more than a x-former, caps, a reg, diodes
and a one-shot thermal fuse in there...
According to the manufacturers, these things are designed to be used in
schools and similar places - so you'd
I remember reading Wayne at Bolder even reccomending this unit. Said it
appeared to be between the Elpac upgrade and the pricy mk11 power
suppy.
My new Black Squeezebox is under the tree (I feel like a little
kid.)
Congrats! I am still hopeful for santa but might be a while longer :(
shlea;164196 Wrote:
Can anyone please explain why a linear PS should give better sound?
Svein-Helge
Some people think they hear a difference when using a linear regulated
supply.
Others, such as myself, perceive no difference.
The audio circuits inside the SB3 are powered from a DC-DC
ddden;164222 Wrote:
Got a link for that thread?
No, but a search for 'power supply' should do the trick.
The RatShack plug is not exactly beefy, but I would be 'shocked' :) if
the relatively short connection would not conduct more than 1A in short
bursts without melting. . .which would
Mark Lanctot;163970 Wrote:
If the AV8 is like other pre/pros and receivers, it will have a
subwoofer/LFE out, but this will be inactive when in direct mode
because bass management in these devices is done through the DSP, which
is bypassed in direct mode.
Which leaves us at the
I'm the proud owner of a Carver M400t amp, have had it for probably 15
years or more! Cute little thing, though I must admit back then I
really liked the Yamaha version too, the little pyramid...
I bought the m400t in the Netherlands, and as such the sticker on the
back says 220~250 Volt 50
jmourik;164304 Wrote:
I'm the proud owner of a Carver M400t amp, have had it for probably 15
years or more! Cute little thing, though I must admit back then I
really liked the Yamaha version too, the little pyramid...
I bought the m400t in the Netherlands, and as such the sticker on the
Nick77;164257 Wrote:
I remember reading Wayne at Bolder even reccomending this unit. Said it
appeared to be between the Elpac upgrade and the pricy mk11 power
suppy.
(
Thanks for the link.
What a cool guy Wayne is.
I think I'm gonna check out the ultimate but probably buy the Welbourne
ClibeB's post in another thread has me confused and I was hoping that I
may get some input that would clear up my confusion.
cliveb;164218 Wrote:
The best preamp possible is no preamp at all.
You can have a hifi set up wihtout a pre-amp? I currently use a
Transporter directly into a NAIM power
There is no universal truth in this hobby..there's no need to get
confused over what others are saying.
Have you ever been to a restaurant ordering the most popular manu and
found out that it taste absolutely crap to your tongue?
High end audio is not much different in this regards, trust your
I think the key point here is that the hiss only seems to occur when the
SB3 is connected directly to an amplifier (not an integrated amp) using
the SB3's analog outputs.
I also have noticed a significant amount of hiss with the SB3 plugged
directly into my PSAudio Trio A-100. However if I
Phil, with all due respect,
less is done to an audio signal does not necessarily traslate to
good sound.
Regards
barry
PhilNYC;164322 Wrote:
The theory for no preamp is the best is based on the idea that the
less that is done to an audio signal, the better. And there's probably
a lot
USAudio;164326 Wrote:
Has anyone found a solution to this problem?
Someone (not from Slim) suggested setting display brightness to
zero/off when idle. Then it wakes back up when you hit any button.
As much as I like the VU meters, I find this to be the most
aesthetically pleasing setting
Most of this is over my head so can someone tell me if these patches
will in any way effect the high hiss level (noise floor?) I am getting
when I connect my SB3 analog outputs directly to my amplifier?
I am thus using the SB3 also as a preamp.
SB3 - PS-Audio Trio A-100 - BW DM603S3's
If I
95bcwh;164332 Wrote:
Phil, with all due respect,
less is done to an audio signal does not necessarily traslate to
good sound.
Regards
barry
Never said it did. Personally, I strongly prefer the use of a preamp
in my system.
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Sonic Spirits Inc.
http://www.sonicspirits.com
I agree with all of these posts, in that, what sounds good to the
listener is best.
However, the original quote said that no pre-amp is best.
But, if the Transporter does not have a pre-amp how can it drive my
power amp? It must have a pre-amp (but no pre-amp is good, according to
CliveB).
And a
Those amps were very unreliable, as I recall (like most carver
amplifiers). That particular model was however, a real design first.
If I were you, I'd wrap it carefully with a few bags of anti-fungal
silica gel, and store it somewhere safe for another 20 years or so.
You should be able to sell
Thanks for the pic. :)
Yes, the RatShack connector is a flimsy POS. I believe those were my
exact words as I struggled to attach the wires to it without breaking
the tabs.
The Switchcraft(part no. 760?)is less than $5. . .$3.08, but Digikey
has a $5 handling fee on orders less than $25, so
hi ModelCitizen,
The Transporter's unbalanced analogue output puts out 2Vrms which is
enough to drive any of my amps without a pre-amp.
Historically, the job of a preamp was to boost the signal from phono or
tape deck inputs up to the required voltage for an amp.
Also, some input signals needed
Also just got a Connection reset by remote host on the TP display when
it was connected 'wired' to the router. Then it cycled itself off and
on and has worked fine (wired) ever since...
Don't know...
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acm;164068 Wrote:
Cool... I'm new sorry guys!
Don't worry about it :)
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ModelCitizen;164343 Wrote:
I agree with all of these posts, in that, what sounds good to the
listener is best.
However, the original quote said that no pre-amp is best.
But, if the Transporter does not have a pre-amp how can it drive my
power amp? It must have a pre-amp (but no pre-amp is
Actually, I have a converter, but I was wondering if I could do without.
Maybe just have half the power at 120v :-)
jan
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Skunk;164334 Wrote:
Someone (not from Slim) suggested setting display brightness to zero/off
when idle. Then it wakes back up when you hit any button.
As much as I like the VU meters, I find this to be the most
aesthetically pleasing setting as well. Of course, YMMV.
Thanks Skunk but I
Phil Leigh;164073 Wrote:
9) I'd say more like 75% - maybe higher (once you get beyond a certain
point of equipment fidelity - whatever the hell that is). I know a
few folks disagree but I think that DRC (and obviously a good source,
amp and speakers) makes the difference between a system
oh well
now it isn't even working properly wired... doing the same thing as
wireless, playing for a bit and locking up...
back in the box, I'll talk with SD on Tuesday...
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USAudio;164362 Wrote:
Thanks Skunk but I already have the display off when idle, no go, still
hisses. I also use well shielded interconnects. Seems to be an issue
that can only be addressed by Slim with a software or running hardware
change?
If so, I did looped the RJ-45 around a ferrite
04dgmsilv;164351 Wrote:
Also just got a Connection reset by remote host on the TP display when
it was connected 'wired' to the router. Then it cycled itself off and
on and has worked fine (wired) ever since...
Don't know...
It sounds like your PC, actually (what the Transporter will call
I had a similar experience - a surprising amount of hiss being heard
emanating from the SB3 analog outputs compared to my CD player's analog
outputs. I would guess the difference was about 15 dB. This was evident
when turning my preamp volume control up to about 12 o'clock - a
position that is
I've been doing my cables with RG6 and F-type compression fittings then
a F-type to RCA adapter. I'd like to pick up some RCA compression
fittings at some point. Also would like to try some RG59 to see if I
can tell a difference. I replaced my Monster brand subwoofer cable
with RG6 and there is
Thanks for the insight. I turned off my AVG Free software and even
disabled the firewall for the hell of it, unfortunatley no change.
I agree it seems likely that it is some kind of computer issue, but
this is pretty well beyond my knowledge.
THanks Again!
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04dgmsilv
The 80s are worth the extra dough, IMO. They have better bass and are
more comfortable. The comfort factor is relevant, since it's hard to
enjoy the music when your ears are aching. As far as the leakage, it's
not a big deal. If you are 5 feet away from someone and/or there's
other sound in
USAudio;164397 Wrote:
It would be sure nice to hear directly from SlimDevices if the DAC is
indeed the cause of the hiss and if the issue can/is-going-to be
addressed or not?
They will probably ask what you're using for external attenuation
before the power amp, since that's the recommended
04dgmsilv;164388 Wrote:
Thanks for the insight. I turned off my AVG Free software and even
disabled the firewall for the hell of it, unfortunatley no change.
I agree it seems likely that it is some kind of computer issue, but
this is pretty well beyond my knowledge.
THanks Again!
have
empty99;164357 Wrote:
Except for the old LP/Phono sources, which are extremely low in level,
requiring step-up preamp stages, most modern music sources, ie CD, DVD,
Tuners and yes, even Ipods, provide higher output voltages (around 2V),
enough to drive many amps into overload. How can you be
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