Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Everyone:  I am estimating that Manoel was born 1678 - 1695 in SM-VFDC.
Bartholomeu is my ancestor # 1724, Maria de Sousa is my ancestor # 1725.
Does anyone have Iria's birth info?
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Terri Santos 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello


  Here's Iria's death record if you didn't already have it.


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P57.html

  On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-5, Terri Santos wrote:
Hi Fernando, I descend from this line as well. My My ancestor Manuel de 
Sousa Pimentel is also a son of Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de Sousa. I don’t 
have his birth year as well but I’m guessing it is circa 1700 or earlier.I 
looked at your chart and basically have all the same info you have. If there is 
anything you need from my end, I would love to help. 
Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Shirley Allegre]

I am related to Francisco and Iria.  Francisco's father is my 1724 
Bartholomeu Barbosa X 1725 Maria de Sousa.
I have a daughter, Marianna de Mello (born ?? 7 Apr 1725)   But I can't get 
on the baptisms for SM-VFDC.

Shirley in CA
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Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de 
Mello



Cheri, no problem, I’m sure I have a few duplicates on my tree as well. You 
mentioned you were related to Francisco’s brother. His brother Manuel is 
also an ancestor of mine, who is the brother in your family?


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Shirley Allegre]

That would put them married 47 years.  WOW
Shirley in CA
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Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de 
Mello



I found Marianna’s birth record. She was born on 7 Apr 1725. I just didn’t 
go back far enough so a big thanks for her parents marriage record. The 
records for Francisco and Iria births are not available. So I went on to 
Bartholomeu Barbosa and Maria Sousa and I found one record so far for their 
marriage: 30 Mar 1678. Does anyone have another record? In the meantime I’ll 
keep searching.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Shirley Allegre]

Fernando:
I have a marriage on 17 June 1708, in Sao Miguel Archango church in Villa 
Franca do Campo (SM-VFDC), for Francisco de Sousa Vieira X Iria de Mello.
Francisco is the son of my 1724 Bartholomeu Barbosa X my 1725 Maria de 
Sousa.  Iria is the daughter of Manoel Correa Argueiro X Maria Cabral.

I have Iria & Francisco from SM-VFDC.
I will now look for kids for Francisco X Iria, in SM-VFDC.
Shirley in CA
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To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:36 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello


I’m searching for information on Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello and 
their daughter Marianna do Corpo Santo de Mello. Marianna married Joao da 
Costa on May 18, 1755 in Vila Franca, Sao Miguel (Matriz).  On her marriage 
records it says she is from (or baptized in?) Matriz, but I can’t find her 
birth record. Her husband Joao was born in 1735, so I was loooking around 
that date. I also searched for the marriage record of Francisco and Iria but 
no luck (in Matriz, but without Marianna’s birth record I can’t assume the 
parents were married there). If anyone has any information I would 
appreciate it.

Thanks Fernando

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I see:
Maria
born at 7:00 a.m.
daughter of:
(Manoel de Sousa, pedreiro=stonemason
X Antonia de Medeiros)
PATERNAL
Manoel da Sousa Matheus X Antonia Juliana
MATERNAL
Francisco de Medeiros X Rosa Jacintha
GODPARENTS
Manoel da Silva  &  Albina de Jesus

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cory G. 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 8:22 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record


  Hi im looking for help with this record, its not the cleanest thing to read.

  Its for Maria Medeiros De Sousa, Possible birthdate is 15 Oct 1876

  Parents Manuel de Sousa Matheus Bispo and Antonia do Conceicao de Jesus 
(Religious name?)


  Figure maybe someones eyes and Portuguese might be better than mine :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.

[Shirley Allegre]

Sam it looks like the parents of the bride were Francisco Furtado de _  X 
_ Gomes.
Hope your eye surgery goes great.
Shirley in CA
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  From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
  To: genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 6:24 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.


  Need help please:  Bottom left and over to top right.  I think this is the 
marriage of Joao de Medeiros and Maria Furtado on 4 Feb. 1709.  His parents 
were Manuel Rodrigues de Almanca and Maria de Medeiros.  I’m having some eye 
problems right now.  Need a cataract operation.  Can sks please tell me if this 
is the correct document and do I have the information correct?  Anything else 
of note?

   

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P85.html
 

   

  Many thanks,

  Sam (Camas, WA)

   


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading this Altares Marriage record from 1825

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what it looks like to me:

8 Aug 1825

Francisco Gonsalves Velho
(Jose Gonsalves Velho X Maria de Jesus)
SPOUSE
Beatrice do Espirito Santo
(Francisco Martins Dias?? X Rosa da Trindade)

Shirley in CA


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  Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2018 6:44 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading this Altares Marriage record from 
1825


  I’m having a lot of problems reading this record. The groom is Francisco 
Goncalves Velho and I think his parents are Jose Goncalves Velho and Maria de 
Jesus. The bride is Beatriz do Espirito Santo and I think her father is 
Francisco Martins and I can not make out her mother’s name. I have a problem in 
my database and I’m trying to resolve it so as much info I can get from this 
record would greatly be appreciated.

  The record is on the right side. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P127.html

  Thank you

   

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonia Pacheco Arruda of Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

[Shirley Allegre]

Cheri I have an Antonia de Arruda.  Who was this Antonia married to?
Shirley
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 10:59 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonia Pacheco Arruda of Ribeira Quente, Sao 
Miguel island


  How old is Antonia d'Arruda (#10 on the left)? 74 94 or 64. If I blink, it 
changes. I tried the magnifier too:

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1900-1905/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1900-1905_item1/P16.html

  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Simas, Sao Jorge, Nordeste, obito, 1867

[Shirley Allegre]

cincoenta annos = 50 years.

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From: "Aaron Pereira" 

To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:52 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Simas, Sao Jorge, Nordeste, obito, 
1867



Could someone help me confirm the age of at death of Francisco Simas 
Morgado, obito # 31, right hand side of page.

Your assistance is appreciated.  Thank you

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-O-1860-1867/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-O-1860-1867_item1/P149.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records

[Shirley Allegre]

I have a gazillion MELLOs.  Was he from Sao Miguel island?  
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elaine Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 5:47 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records


  So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for my 
paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the USCIS - 
I was so excited!


  Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover 
letter saying that they couldn't find any further records and that they were 
refunding me my money (though check that it actually gets refunded, just in 
case they forget...) and a secondary sheet with some very basic information, 
which is part of the application that they had.   So Antonio declared that he 
arrived April 18, 1901 on the S.S. Donna Maria into New York, which meant he 
was about 12 at the time.  He also declared he entered as Antonio Mello.   So I 
looked up the ship records, and can only find one Antonio Francis, aged 13, 
which may or may not be him.


  So, is it unusual for people to get this wrong when filling out these forms, 
or are the records I've found online of immigrants incomplete?  I'm checking 
with the Justice Archives in Massachusetts to see if there is something at the 
state level since the federal government was such a disappointment (though they 
said I could try again as they are always searching for missing records, but 
that sounds more like looking for a needle in a haystack.)  So back to the 
research drawing board!



  Elaine 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

[Shirley Allegre]

I see Maria de Almeida.   Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maria Lima 
  To: AZORES 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:34 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure


  Right page for MANOEL DE LIMA:


  Not sure I'm reading name of the bride's parents correctly because I have 
looked in the baptismal records to verify that I have the name and so far I 
can't find them in Sao Sebastiao where she was baptized.  ( Maybe I just need 
to keep looking)


  Are Francisca do Rosario's parents MANOEL DE PAYVA and MARIA DE AVILA OR DE 
ALMEIDA (?) or something else??


  Thanks for your help.  


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P7.html

  Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I have:

Manoel
DOB 1 March 1823, Feteira, Faial.
parents:
Francisco Garcia da Rosa
DOB 1779, Santa Luzia, Pico
X
Prudencianna Narcisa
DOB abt 1785, Santo Antonio, Pico

NO, my husband is not John0202 on ancestry.  I don't put any of my info 
online.

Shirley in CA

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From: "Cameron Hazer" 

To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815


I descend from Antonio’s elder brother, Francisco Garcia da Rosa (b 1823). I’d 
have to check my number of children for Prudenciana, but I’m probably 
missing a couple. I need to cross-reference another tree that has more 
entries.


Is your husband John0202 on ancestry? His tree is the one I’ve referenced a 
couple times so far.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815

[Shirley Allegre]

Which one of Prudenciana's children do you descend from?  My husband descends 
from Antonio Garcia da Rosa.
I have ten kids for Prudenciana.  How many do you have?

Shirley in CA
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  From: Cameron Hazer 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815


  That matches my records, Shirley


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815

[Shirley Allegre]

Prudencia Narcisa is my husband's ancestor.  She is his 3rd great-grandmother.  
She was born about 1785 in Santo Antonio, Pico, Azores.
Do you have her DOMarriage as 13 July 1811, in Feteira, Faial, Azores?

Shirlely in CA
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  From: Cameron Hazer 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 7:51 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptisms in Santo Antonio pre-1815


  So, I've hit a bit of a snag. An ancestor of mine, Prudenciana Narcisa (do 
Coração de Jesus), was born - according to her obit, marriage, and children's 
baptisms to be from Santo Antonio. The problem is, her obit lists her age as 80 
in her obit in 1865, and the baptisms in Santo Antonio on the Centro/Tombo 
sites don't go back before 1815.




  Is this an issue of records being lost, or was Santo Antonio part of a 
different parish at the time? Or is it something else I didn't think of?


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaiian Deaths/Burials

[Shirley Allegre]

I have the ships that arrived in Hawaii, to 1911.  None of them were from Pico. 
 Unfortunately the ships' lists do not list the captain of the ship.
I doubt if this is of any help to you.
Shirley in CA
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  From: Judy Thompson 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaiian Deaths/Burials


  Hi Shirley,


  Thx for your offer.  Let me clarify the circumstances further.  He was not a 
passenger and did not live in Hawaii.  According to relatives here and in 
Azores he was captain of the ship and was either going to or from Azores when 
he became ill and either died on board or after they docked in Hawaii and was 
then buried in Hawaii.  Further complicating research is there is another 
person, a relative, with exactly the same name and also a ship's captain.  


  Here are the details:  Manuel Pereira Domingos, born 1 June 1843 in Ribeiro 
do Meio and lived in freguesia of Lajes on Pico.  Assumption is that ship was a 
whaler but not confirmed.  All agree he is known to have sailed in and out of 
Boston regularly.  Have narrowed down his death to between 1903 and 1923.  The 
other Manuel Pereira Domingos was born in Lajes on 3 Dec 1867 and immigrated to 
Massachusetts and also died there.


  If you can help that would be great but I understand if you can't.  I'm not 
sure it's doable but thx again for offering.  I'm still trying to find the 
consulate lists on family search.


  Judy

   Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 7:37:30 PM UTC-8, Shirley Allegre wrote:
Who are you looking for?  I might be able to help you.   Shirley in CA
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  From: IslandRoutes 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 11:35 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaiian Deaths/Burials



  Judy, I think your best bet would be to first check the Portuguese 
Consulate logs Consulado Portuguese Geral em Hawaii, I believe they are called) 
 When the ships came into port, each passenger and family group was processed.  
If a person died aboard ship, it was noted in the consulate logs.  I am not 
sure if they note people who were ill. 


  The LDS Family History Library has these in their collection.  I think 
they are catalogued under something very vague like Index to the Portuguese.


  I think the Hawaii State Archives also has them.



  As Cheri said, death records prior to 1910 are hit and miss for Hawaii.  
If you find that they are listed as deceased on the consulate logs, it may be 
possible to ask around to see where those aboard ship were buried.


  Melody 

  On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 8:24:44 AM UTC-8, Judy Thompson wrote: 
Where do I get info about what info is available for deaths and burials 
in Hawaii?  Should I join the island group or ?  My great grandfather is 
supposedly buried there and either died on board ship then they pulled into 
port in Hawaii and he was buried there or he became sick on board ship then 
died in Hawaii after they pulled into port and was buried there.  
Thx.


Judy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaiian Deaths/Burials

[Shirley Allegre]

Who are you looking for?  I might be able to help you.   Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: IslandRoutes 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 11:35 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaiian Deaths/Burials



  Judy, I think your best bet would be to first check the Portuguese Consulate 
logs Consulado Portuguese Geral em Hawaii, I believe they are called)  When the 
ships came into port, each passenger and family group was processed.  If a 
person died aboard ship, it was noted in the consulate logs.  I am not sure if 
they note people who were ill.


  The LDS Family History Library has these in their collection.  I think they 
are catalogued under something very vague like Index to the Portuguese.


  I think the Hawaii State Archives also has them.



  As Cheri said, death records prior to 1910 are hit and miss for Hawaii.  If 
you find that they are listed as deceased on the consulate logs, it may be 
possible to ask around to see where those aboard ship were buried.


  Melody 

  On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 8:24:44 AM UTC-8, Judy Thompson wrote:
Where do I get info about what info is available for deaths and burials in 
Hawaii?  Should I join the island group or ?  My great grandfather is 
supposedly buried there and either died on board ship then they pulled into 
port in Hawaii and he was buried there or he became sick on board ship then 
died in Hawaii after they pulled into port and was buried there.  
Thx.


Judy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[Shirley Allegre]

Looks like BERNARDA to me.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:32 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)


  Top left, name the baby girl:
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P13.html

  Cheri Mello
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  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Raposo, Candida

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I found:

DOM  22 Feb 1829,  # 147 Left
Nossa Senhora Ajuda, place of Bretanha (Sao Miguel island)
Jose Ignacio Raposo
son of (incognito X Margarida de Jesus, wife of Manoel Raposo Tavares)
from this same place
SPOUSE
Francisca Candida
(Jose Fernandes, deceased X Antonia Maria)
It looks like Francisca was baptised in N.S. Ajuda, Bretanha.

This is the best that I could figure out.
Shirley in CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Raposo, Candida


  I will be back home mid week from the Azores and will check my data base. But 
please give me an approximate date for the marriage.


  John Miranda Raposo



  On Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:38 PM, Michael Brown 
 wrote:




  I am also looking for info on Jose Ignacio Raposo and his wife Francisca 
Candida, they were married in Bretanha, Sao Miguel on February 22 1829. I have 
no record of their parents. I don't have their birth or death dates either, 
just the children and forward. I have attempted to look at the Bretanha 
marriage records from that time in the Azores database but I cannot make heads 
or tails out of the handwriting. Any info that anyone has would be helpful! 
thanks

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage S M Arrifes

[Shirley Allegre]

Maria Ricarda is the mother of the bride.
Shirley in CA
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:07 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage S M Arrifes


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1900-1911/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1900-1911_item1/P240.html


  Can someone tell me the name of the mother of the bride on left side.

  Bride is Maria do Carmo father of bride is Antonio Raposa


  Liz


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to track down information on my paternal grandfather

[Shirley Allegre]

Do you have any idea as to when and where he died??  Who was his wife??
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Claire 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to track down information on my 
paternal grandfather


  His name was Joseph Angus Lewis, but I am sure that is the Americanized 
version.  I have no idea when he came to the US other than sometime between 
1888 and 1910.  I went to the azores genweb, and I have now ordered a death 
certificate for him.  They say it can take up to 12 weeks, so I will hope the 
information I have is close enough.  I am such a beginner at this!  I would 
really like to hire a genealogist to help, but I don't know where to start.  
Thank you for your help.  

  On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:50:41 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
Claire,
No one in your family knows his first name??

Do an Internet search on "azores genweb" (no quotes) and go to Research 
Aids and then Finding Your Roots (or maybe How to Find...) It's full of info to 
get you started.
Cheri


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Spain

[Shirley Allegre]

Does anyone out there know of an email address for Spain that covers births, 
marriages & deaths?

I am researching my KING Denis of Portugal.  He had a gazillion Spanish 
ancestors.

All help will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Shirley in CA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to this list - Oliveria, Freitas, Vierra

[Shirley Allegre]

What are the names of the people that went to Hawaii??  When did they go??  any 
other info might help.
I have 3 books that I can look in for people that went to Hawaii.

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Diane 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 5:24 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to this list - Oliveria, Freitas, Vierra


  My relatives on my father's side came from the Azores in the late 1800's.  
They went to Hawaii and then moved to California.  I have found some 
information on where they came from, but not much more.  For the Freitas side I 
have Medeira listed, but the Oliveria's I only have the Azores Islands.  The 
Vierra's I just have listed Portugal.   I Have had my DNA done by ancestry and 
I had my MTDNA done by Family tree DNA, my mother's side is English.  But I did 
have my Ancestry transfered over to Family tree DNA in there family finder.  I 
can not believe how many realitives I have found on my father's side.  Sadly, 
only a few have contacted me.  But I have also found a few on Ancestry also. 
Seems that my great grandmother's brother had 17 children, and that seems to be 
the family that I am finding.  Just letting you know that I am here.
  Diane T. nee Vierra in Wisconsin

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Joao Machado de Azevedo and Isabel Silveira de Azevedo

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Pam:  This is what I see:

DOM  11 Jan 1817
Joam Machado d'Azevedo, WIDOWER of Teresa Laurianna.
son of (CAPTAIN Manoel Silveira Machado X Maria Silveira)  both deceased?
SPOUSE
Isabel Silveira d'Azevedo
(Antonio Silveira de Sousa X Maria Bernarda),  natives this Matriz of Santa 
Catharina, village of Calheta, island of Sao Jorge.
TESTIMONY 
CAPTAIN Miguel Antonio da Silveira e Sousa
CAPTAIN Jose Sebastiam de Sousa

MARGIN:
son of Nicolau de __, of Rosais X Maria d'Azevedo*
*Maria daughter of SARGENT MOR Antonio de Azevedo Teixeira or Ferreira
Antonio son of Manoel d'Azevedo X Maria Var?,  logo/digo Rita da Gloria, 
Maria?  WIDOW of Manoel Machado Leonardo,  rua 9  5_  neto de Azevedo
al? mor?  por/  ser
daughter of _   __
Joao Machado de Azevedo X Isabel Silveira.

Do you have any dates???   I have several of these names in my PAF program.
Kellie Krnkovich might be related to my husband.  

Shirley in CA
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  From: Pam Santos 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 11:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Joao Machado de Azevedo and 
Isabel Silveira de Azevedo


  Son of Nicholau Silveira _dos Rosaes? __, Maria de Azevedo daughter 
of Sargento Mor Antonio de Azevedo Teixeira son of Manuel de Azevedo Teixeira 
and Ana Dias de Lemos, son of Capitao Mor de Azevedo and Maria ?Vaz(r)?. _ 
Rita da _Gloria widower of Manuel _Mendonca Leonardo, _ 
Capittao Mor __ Joao Medonca? ___ de ?Azevedo? and Isabel Silva



  On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Kellie Crnkovich  
wrote:

Ok second attempt at translating Can someone translate this underline 
section and the margin note for me?


I get to the father and it Looks like it is Manuel Silveira Machado (I have 
Capitao Manuel Sliveira de Azevedo Looks like I need to change his marriage 
records also say Manuel Silveira Machado) but I see it is underlined and a 
margin note I can't read completely see below. Mother Maria Silveira 
__ (marriage for her looks like Maria Silveira do
 Sao Joaquim), a Isabel Silveira de Azevedo daughter of Antonio Silveira da 
Souza and Mother Maria Bernarda





Margin note: I got


Son of Nicholau Silveira ___, Maria de Azevedo daughter of Sargento 
Mor Antonio de Azevedo Teixeira son of Manuel de Azevedo Teixeira and Ana Dias 
de Lemos, son of Capitao Mor de Azevedo and Maria ?Vaz(r)?. _ Rita da 
_, ___ da _Azevedo Leonardo, _ Capittao Mor 
__ Manuel ___ de ?Azevedo? and Isabel Silveira


Bottom right hand page

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1781-1819/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1781-1819_item1/P150.html



Thank you so much
Kellie Crnkovich
Sao Jorge and Pico 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] An old one, but pretty from 1650 - parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I see:

13 Feb 1650,  Calheta
Diogo Nunes Bello
(Joao Nunes Bello, dec.  X Maria de Almeida), freguesia Nossa Senhora Rosario
SPOUSE
Appelonia Dias de Borba
(Antonio Alvares X Andreza Jorge), this freguesia (Calheta)
TESTIMONY
Francisco de Silveira? de Avila, freguesia Ribeira Seca
Joao Luis Pereira
CAPTAIN MOR Pedro Luis Pereira?
Catharina Machada
Simao Rois de Borba

Hope this helps. Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Souza 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 10:36 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] An old one, but pretty from 1650 - parents of 
Apelonia Dias de Borba?


  Here's another that has extended my tree ... can someone help me identify the 
names of the parents of Apelonia Dias de Borba?


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696_item1/P12.html



  It's the second one on the left ...


  Diogo, fo de Joao Nunes Bello (defunto) e de Maria de Almeida
  Appellonia Dias de Borba, fa de Antonio ?? e Andreza Jorge?


  Thanks for the look!


  - Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Urzelina births in Santo Amaro

[Shirley Allegre]

Thanks a million.Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Urzelina births in Santo Amaro


  Shirley,


  It's because you are using the CCA directly instead of Tombo.pt. It is linked 
correctly on Tombo.pt.  And I've already reported it to the CCA for you like 
you asked.



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


  On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net> 
wrote:

Yesterday, while searching in Santo Amaro births, I found the following:

births:  Urzelina 1780-1794.  It is on the bottom of the page.

Shirley in CA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Urzelina births in Santo Amaro

[Shirley Allegre]

Yesterday, while searching in Santo Amaro births, I found the following:

births:  Urzelina 1780-1794.  It is on the bottom of the page.

Shirley in CA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

[Shirley Allegre]

Thanks for the info on Jose (b. 23 Sep 1846).  
My computer program says that Jose and I are 7th cousins, 3 times removed.

Shirley in CA
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  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta 
Delgada question about inventario entry


   I read that (with my limited Portuguese) as Jose is filing for emancipation 
from his father. 



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


  On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:44 AM, IslandRoutes  wrote:

This is a neat little discovery for me that I had to share.  I think some 
others are also interested in the de Braga family of Maia, Ribeira Grande.

Jacintho Jose de Braga, (b. 21 Sep 1806), Maia m. 26 Aug 1829, Maia to Rosa 
de Medeiros Pacehco (b. 4 Mar 1810, Maia) had 10 known children.  Until now, 
I've only been able to prove that Jozimas (my gr gr grandfather) and his 
sister, Jacintha Roza, made it to adulthood and had families.

Now, I can add their brother, Jose Jacintho de Braga (b. 23 Sep 1846, Maia) 
to the list.  Jose moved to Ponta Delgada.  He married Emilia Augusta de 
Medeiros 8 Oct 1868, Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel Island.  Emilia 
was the daughter of Agosthinho de Medeiros and Mafalda da Assumpcao.  Emilia 
was born ca 1839, Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada.  If the marriage record is right, 
she was 7 years older that Jose.

Jose and Emilia had at least two children:
1. Toribio baptized 10 Jan 1870, Sao Sebastiao, P. Delgada
2. Jose, b. 24 Jul 1872, Sao Sebastiao, P. Delgada

Jose was recorded in his marriage under the surname Pacheco, but under the 
surname de Braga for his son's baptismals.

At that point the trail goes cold.  I haven't found anymore children in Sao 
Sebastiao.  I also have not found Toribio or Jose's marriages or any children 
baptized with them as parents.  I haven't gone through the obitos yet.  I'm 
hoping they survived.

Now my question, I was searching the arquivo website yesterday and came 
across a curious entry for Jose Jacintho de Braga.  I know the records aren't 
online, but was hoping someone can give me an idea of what this file refers to: 
 
http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1029225=jose%7Cjacinto%7Cde%7Cbraga

In case the link doesn't work the notes read:
"Autos cíveis de petição para emancipação. Requerente residente em Ponta 
Delgada."

What does this refer to? The file is for Jose Jacintho but under recipient 
it says "Jacintho Jose de Braga", which I believe refers to his father.

Thanks for the assistance!










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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] trans help

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I see:
Francisco
(Thomas Correa X Rosa Maria)
Santa Barbara - Cedros
DOB  26 Oct 1790
BAPT  premiero = 1 Nov 1790
GODPARENTS:
Francisco da Rosa & Angelica Rosa, both single
children of:  (Manoel da Rosa da Silveira)

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Migliori 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 4:41 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] trans help


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1745-1791/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1745-1791_item1/P387.html


  Hi  can some complete the translation for me.  3rd down on Right.

  Francisco son of Thomas Correia and Rosa Maria born October 2? 1790

  I can't tell birth date or Baptism date.


  Godfather Francisco da Rosa and Angelina Rosa Single?   who is single?

  then something about Manuel da Rosa Sylveira???


  Thx

  Liz


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name

[Shirley Allegre]

Angelica
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Migliori 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 5:08 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798_item1/P10.html


  Can someone tell the first name of first person right side.

  parents Thomas Francisco Correia and Rosa Maria

  Born Dec 2, 1791  baptised on the 15


  Liz


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] de Fontes family from N. S. da Conceicao of Ribeira Grande 1880's

[Shirley Allegre]

I read this one as:
Antonio da Fontes, age 43
(same= Antonio da Fontes X Maria da Paixo)
CHILDREN:
??? girl __, age 13
Antonia  age 11
Jose   age 9
In Bob de Mello's book it says
Antonio de Fontes,  age 43
Father deceased
Mother Maria da Paixao
>From Conceicao   R. Grande
Wife  Jacinta Rosa(No Come)
CHILDREN:
Manual   13
Antonio11
Jose   9
(All Born Conceicao   R. Grande)

Hope this helps.   Shirley in CA
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:15 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] de Fontes family from N. S. da Conceicao of 
Ribeira Grande 1880's


  I am looking for the family of Antonio de Fontes and Maria da Paixao. I have 
found that two of their sons, Antonio de Fontes and Francisco de Fontes 
emigrated to Hawaii on S.S. Bell Rock in 1883.  The passport applications 
indicate that these two men and their children are from Conceicao of Ribeira 
Grande.  I have been unable to find the baptismal records of the children or 
the marriage records of Antonio and Francisco.



  Antonio and his family are application 1033 at this link

  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P168.html

   

  If you have any information regarding this family or suggestions of where 
else to look, I would appreciate the help.

  Thank you,

  Erica Botelho


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] de Fontes family from N. S. da Conceicao of Ribeira Grande 1880's

[Shirley Allegre]

I read that info as:

Manoel de Fontes, age 50
son of (Antonio da Fontes X Maria da Paixao)
CHILDREN:
Maria  22 years   ** see below
Rosa   20
Hermelinda  16
Maria  13
Jose5
Manoel   11

**  Maria's birth 24 May 1861, church of Conceicao, village of Ribeira 
Grande, Sao Miguel island.

Four of my greatgrandparents also went to Hawaii on the Bell Rock in 1883.

Shirley in CA


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  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:15 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] de Fontes family from N. S. da Conceicao of 
Ribeira Grande 1880's


  I am looking for the family of Antonio de Fontes and Maria da Paixao. I have 
found that two of their sons, Antonio de Fontes and Francisco de Fontes 
emigrated to Hawaii on S.S. Bell Rock in 1883.  The passport applications 
indicate that these two men and their children are from Conceicao of Ribeira 
Grande.  I have been unable to find the baptismal records of the children or 
the marriage records of Antonio and Francisco.

   

  Francisco and his family are application 1292 at this link

  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P184.html

   

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao Jorge) families

[Shirley Allegre]

My cousin was born and raised in Mission San Jose.  They wouldn't let her 
look at the records either.

Such a shame.
Shirley in CA
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To: 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to Group Silva (Pico) and Avila (Sao 
Jorge) families



Hi Kellie,

I am off on a trip and don't have my computer but checked the 1900 census on 
my phone:) and I don't see Emeryville It says Washington Township. I am 
glad you found the will!


On Mission San Jose, I have had a few "run ins" with them. They are very 
protective of their records and have one person who supposedly will check 
for you. Last year I had reason to communicate with this person because of a 
funeral I was arranging and asked her if she would check on a couple of old 
burial records as only the church has those for their cemetery. She said it 
might take awhile, this was over a year agono word! I had a real 
meltdown in their office maybe 15 years ago when my aunt, a lifelong 
parishioner, had asked if I could search. They told her ok but when I 
arrived from out of town, they changed their mind when they found out I 
wanted to see more than one record (my whole family was from there for 
generations). I had to ask (the info was not offered) if they had ever been 
microfilmed and THEN I was told that try had been and were at St Patrick's 
Seminary in Menlo Park. So I and many others enjoyed a time of access but 
recently I've read on this group that they no longer allow personal searches 
in Menlo Park either. It was nice while it lasted! They may allow requests 
but as far as being an altar boy, I doubt that there would be any evidence. 
From my understanding they had only sacramental records filmed (why they 

don't have the burials).

Do you have Manuel and Mariana's marriage record? If they married in the 
US... It could have been in MSJ or maybe Holy Spirit since he was buried 
there. I've seen the island listed on some marriages but not the village.


I looked at the UPEC records of Newark but did not see your Manuel Perry 
Silva ...quite often they give the village. It would be worth your time to 
look through the membership records of the UPEC in those other towns like 
Centerville and Mission San

Jose.or even the other towns just to rule that out.

I'm always interested in the Portuguese of this area where my family 
settled:)


Best of luck
Susan

Here is the top of that 1900 census page:

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Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Kellie Crnkovich  
wrote:


Susan Emeryville is listed in the top of the census records. That is why I 
put it there. He is buried at Holy Ghost Crmetary in Fremont. I lived in 
Stockton until 7 years ago when I moved to Kansas. I do have cousins in 
Bay Area as well we are all stumped. Grandpa wouldn't even teach his kids 
Portuguese he said we're American and we speak English. The will would be 
his I haven't found that can you tell me where you found it? They were in 
Washington Township. I know they had a farm that they sold for good money 
when the interstate was going in. Manuel's brothers had neighboring farms. 
Manuel also owned a bar and stables in town I believe Newark it later 
became a strip club called the Foxy Lady or something like that lol. 
Grandpa was an alter boy at Mission San Jose I am going to write them and 
see if they have any info on Manuel maybe there is something there.


Thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

[Shirley Allegre]

The person asked for the one on the left.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: bsei2...@gmail.com 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.


  The record you posted was a marriage of a Jose d' Arruda in 1855.  This one 
(bottom right) is a baptism of a different Jose d' Arruda the same year in the 
same place.  It also seems to be the same Jose d' Arruda in the 1884 marriage 
in your Mar 20 post that Margaret translated for you.  

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1850-1855_item1/P176.html



  On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Julzzy66 wrote:
thank you everyone. I do not think he is the right one. nothing seems to 
match up other then the year he was born and his name. I will keep looking. I 
thought I was looking for baptism. not marriage as I have that. 
Julzz

On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:03:45 PM UTC-7, Shirley Allegre wrote:
  This is the best that I can figure out:

  4 Feb 1855Item 20, page 18L
  Arrifes
  Jose de Arruda, age 21, native Nossa Senhora da Saude
  (Jose de Arruda X Anna Isabel)
  SPOUSE
  Eugenia Maria
  BAPT:  N.S. Luz, Fenais
  (Joao Furtado, deceased X Claudina Rosa)
  TESTIMONY
  Joao Ferreira, married
  Jose da Ponte, married

  Hopefully someone else can do better.

  Shirley in CA

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.


oh my i am sorry the one on the left. looks like Jose de Arruda

On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: 
  Which one?

  On Mar 24, 2017 4:22 PM, "'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy" 
<azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860_item1/P20.html



I am having a hard time reading this one. can anyone help me. thank 
you


Julzz

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.

[Shirley Allegre]

This is the best that I can figure out:

4 Feb 1855Item 20, page 18L
Arrifes
Jose de Arruda, age 21, native Nossa Senhora da Saude
(Jose de Arruda X Anna Isabel)
SPOUSE
Eugenia Maria
BAPT:  N.S. Luz, Fenais
(Joao Furtado, deceased X Claudina Rosa)
TESTIMONY
Joao Ferreira, married
Jose da Ponte, married

Hopefully someone else can do better.

Shirley in CA

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  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] birth translation help needed.


  oh my i am sorry the one on the left. looks like Jose de Arruda

  On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 4:23:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
Which one?

On Mar 24, 2017 4:22 PM, "'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy" 
 wrote:

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1853-1860_item1/P20.html



  I am having a hard time reading this one. can anyone help me. thank you


  Julzz

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Calheta Sao Jorge marriage

[Shirley Allegre]

See below in Red.   Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 5:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Calheta Sao Jorge marriage


  I'm not too sure what he's abbreiviating for the groom's mom on top of page 2.


  I think bride's dad is Domingos Fernandes Quaresma (but misspelled as 
Caresma).



  Cheri Mello
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  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


  On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  
wrote:

Hi All,
Well, I need some help with this marriage. It is for my 6th & 7th greats. 


26 Jun 1686 in Calheta, bottom left then on to top right: 
Joao Teixeira son of Francisco Gonzalves Teixeira and his wife Maria Lucas 
to Barbara Pereira daughter of Dominguez Fernandez?? Caresma could have wound 
up Quaresma? not a name I'm familier with at all, and his wife Izabel ???, who 
is dead. 


Here is the link: 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1631-1696_item1/P54.html

Any help would be appreciated. My Joao Teixeira adds the Surname Ferro to 
his name as the children are born. He is also an official ferreiro 
(blacksmith). 


Rosemarie 
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Translation

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This is how I read it:

4 Sept 1876
Santa Barbara
Antonio Machado da Costa, age 31, single 
NRB  Doze Ribeiras
(Manoel Machado da Costa X Maria Joaquina)
natives  Doze Ribeiras
SPOUSE
Maria Victorina Martins, age 26 single
NRB Santa Barbara
(Manoel Caetano da Rocha X Maria Victorina)
natives this freguesia
TESTIMONY
Joaquim da Freitas
Jose Machado Lourenco

Shirley in CA

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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Translation


  Hi everyone looking for a little help Marriage translation for Antonio 
Machado da Costa, I see it is September  of 1876 date not sure, I show that he 
married Marianna Victorina  Martins (?)
  His father is Manuel Machado da Costa and mother is Maria Joaquina and  
brides parents are Manuel Castano da Rocha and Maria Victorina 

  Not sure about other information


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879_item1/P96.html

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879_item1/P97.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I can make out:

26 Nov 1881
San Pedro, Ribeirinha
Joao Pacheco Ferreira, age 22, single, 
native, resident, baptised Ribeirinha
parents:
(Manoel Pacheco Ferreira X Maria Rosa, dec.)
SPOUSE
Maria da Conceicao, age 22, single
NRB Ribeirinha
(Sergio Silveira, native Nossa Senhora Boa Nova, Pico island
X Maria Eugenia, native Ribeirinha)
TESTIMONY
Francisco Jose Toste Coelho
Joao Machado Coderniz?, resident Angra

Shirley in CA
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation


  I am looking for some help with Item #17 for Joao Pacheco Ferreira he married 
Maria da and I am not sure of the rest.  It was in the year of 1881 and the 
month is November not sure of the date.
  He is the son of Manuel Pacheco Ferreira and Maria looks like Rocha and I am 
not sure of her parents and the  and the rest of the information

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889_item1/P23.html

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889_item1/P24.html



  Bob Camacho
  Researching the Island of Terceira for
  da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
  Researching the Island of Graciousa for
  Reis
  Researching the Island of Madeira for
  Camacho
  Researching Brazil for
  Evangelho

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Van der Hagen book

[Shirley Allegre]

Was your Maria married toJoao Pires de Matos?

Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Van der Hagen book


  Hello again!
  If you would like, send me your e-mail and I will forward to you my line from 
Willem's daughter Maria to my great-grandfather Antonio de Sousa Borba, 1870 
Calheta, Sao Jorge, Azores.
  Don Vasconcelos 
  dfvasc...@gmail.com

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 13, 2017, at 6:50 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
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Can someone remind me of the book that gives the descendents of Wilhem Van 
der Hagen?



Thanks,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)







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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Van der Hagen book

[Shirley Allegre]

I also descend from him.  Which one of his kids do you descend from?  I descend 
from Joao.

Shirley in CA
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  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Van der Hagen book


  Good morning, 
  I have recently learned that I am a descendant of Willem. I found some info 
on Wikipedi.
  Don Vasconcelos 

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Can someone remind me of the book that gives the descendents of Wilhem Van 
der Hagen?



Thanks,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptismos - Graciosa

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what it looks like to me:

Maria
DOB: 29 Dec 1736
BAPT: 4 Jan 1737, at N.S. Luz
Parents
Manoel da Conde Sodre, native of N.S. Luz  X  Maria da Betancor (Bettencourt), 
native N.S. Guadalupe.

Shirley in CA

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  Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptismos - Graciosa


  His name, her name naturais, elle deste parochial de N. Sn.ra de Luz eella 
(should be e ella)

  da parochial da N. Sn.ra da Gua da lupe.  Looks like he's spaced out 
Guadalupe to me.



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


  On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Lee  wrote:

Can some please help with the record of Maria (left side, middle - 1737 
written above her name)?


She is the daughter of Manoel de Conde Sodre of the Parish of Luz and of 
Maria de Bettencourt  of the Ilha da Suppne??? (Wrong, I know) and fregusia da 
Guill?? (Guadalupe?)


I cannot make this out.



http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1728-1742/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1728-1742_item1/P61.html



Or; do I have it totally wrong and they are both from Luz?


Any help greatly appreciated.


Thank you in advance.


Lee Estep
Oak Hill WV





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] another marriage trans

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I see:
Antonio
(Manoel Silveira Goularte? X Rosa Maria, dec.)
SPOUSE
Sra (Senhorina?) 
(Vicente Furtado, dec. X  ??? (I DON'T SEE A MOTHER LISTED.)
Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:31 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] another marriage trans


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808_item1/P134.html


  Bottom right Antonio Silveira and Maria Rosa

  Nov 5 1807 I think.


  Antonio Silveira son of ? and Rosa Maria

  Maria daughter of ??

  does it say how old they were.


  thx

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translate Obit

[Shirley Allegre]

It looks like 62 to me.
Shirley in CA
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  From: Cheri Mello 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translate Obit


  The double "s" looks like our handwritten "fs". The handwriting looks like: 
sefsenta. You can see how the "t" is crossed at the end of the word. 


  I've given you the clues, now I'm going to let you take a guess.  Cheri



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  On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Elizabeth Migliori  
wrote:


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1885-1897/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1885-1897_item1/P56.html


Antonio # 7 left side 

can someone tell me how old he is.  I can't tell if that's Sessenta or 
Setenta


thx

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: trans marriage

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This is what I see:

Antonio Silveira 
(Jose Silveira __, deceased X Ignes? Silveira)
SPOUSE
Maria Rosa
(Manoel Silveira Goularte X Rosa Maria, dec. 

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  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 12:22 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: trans marriage



  Hello,
  Married September 3, 1800
  Antonio Silveira, son of Jose Silveira ?something?, ja defunto and Ignes 
Silveira
  Maria Rosa, daughter of what looks like Manuel Silveira "abbreviated name 
that begins with the letter g". and Rosa Maria, ja defunta

  I can't say whether or nor they were related, but Silveira was/is a common 
surname.  The ages of the bride and groom are not indicated.

  On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 9:22:33 PM UTC-8, Lizmig wrote:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808_item1/P102.html


Bottom Left  marriage of Antonio Silveira and Maria Rosa

Sept 3 what year 18??

Cannot make out parents  

Antonio son of Jose Silveira and 

Maria daughter of Manuel Silveira and ??

were they related?

Does it say how old they were


Liz


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A little help Sao Pedro, Santa Maria

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I see:
born:  8 Jan 1803
BAPT   16 Jan 1803

Shirley in CA
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  From: aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
  To: Ângela Loura ; azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:56 PM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] A little help Sao Pedro, Santa Maria


  Angela;  I see the Gregório de Jesus now and also the Sacramento but; I’m 
still seeing January 3rd as opposed to sixteenth.  Can someone else please take 
a look and give their opinion.

   

  I do very much appreciate your help Angela, just want to be as sure as 
possible on the date.

   

  Thank you, Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

   

  From: Ângela Loura
  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 5:00 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A little help Sao Pedro, Santa Maria

   

  Born: 1803

  Baptized: 16/01/1803

  Ignes do Sacramento

  I think it's Gregório de Jesus

   

   

  2017-02-18 23:31 GMT+00:00 aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
:

These grandparents are new names or me so any help clarify the spellings 
would be appreciated.  Also, not sure about the date.



It is Rosa, top left one.




http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P36.html



I believe it is:  



Rosa daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho and Francisca Rosa

Born on:  8 January 1903

Paternal grandparents:  Ignacio Coelho and Ignes de Sarmento

Maternal grandparents:  Gergorio de Perez and Margarida Francisca

6th line from the bottom:  Godfather:  Antonio Jose is the brother of the 
mother of the baptized Rosa.  (Brother to Francisca Rosa)



Many thanks for your thoughts on this one,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX) 

 




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria birth: Help with year please

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Sam:  This is how I read it:

Joaquim
(Manoel Cruvelho X Maria da Paixham)  It looks like she might be native of 
Matriz of N. S. Sumpiam.
DOB 11 (honze) February 1726
BAPT 17 February 1724
GODPARENTS
Jasinto Cabral with sister Barbara Velha
children of (Manoel Cabral X Barbara)
TESTIMONY
ALFERES Joam Soares de Figueredo & Fernando Cabral
MARGIN NOTE:
___ natives this parochial, residents Oso? Forno? 

That is the best that I can do.   Shirley in CA
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  From: aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
  To: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:14 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria birth: Help with year 
please


  Hi all;  Left side, bottom one.

   

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745_item1/P7.html
 

   

   

  I’ve got that this is the birth of Joaquim son of Alferes Joam de Figueiredo 
and his wife, Maria de Braga.  I think I see the date of birth as:  15 March 
1726 but; I’m not sure and would like some input from you on it.  I’ve looked 
before and after but; those are just as hard for me to deciper.  Also, I can’t 
tell what happened April 12, 1830 (Over 100 years later?)  In the side margin.  
Is it just another “certificate” or is it more specific.

   

  Many thanks in advance,

  Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

   




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

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I have seen GIL in Terceira, Azores.
Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record


  I've seen Gil somewhere, but I couldn't tell you where (probably this list). 
I don't think it's very common.



  Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


  On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:50 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Awesome!
 Thank you so much Cheri! I really appreciate the clarification. Figures 
that my record should be an oddball. ;-) my luck!
 I'm amazed it really was Gil! I'd never seen that and due to its shortness 
I had assumed it was an abreviation.  Is Gil a fairly rare last name?

Jeremy


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes

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Cheri I have IE.  It only came up half for me as well.
Shirley in CA
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  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes


  Yeah, well, they said it's my problem with my browser and I'm pretty sure 
it's not. They say it displays fine on their end with IE.


  It drives me crazy when there's a technical problem and IT people say, "Well 
just use _." (Fill in with the browser of your choice). FTDNA likes to say 
"Use Chrome." The CCA likes to say "Use IE." Cmon now, we can't be bouncing 
around like that. It needs to display correctly on ALL browsers or someone's 
not doing their job in quality control. And if it's one image, that should mean 
the error is on their end. But you can't tell them that.


  Let's see what others are seeing and I'll report it back to them.  Cheri



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  On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

I am using EDGE and I get the half image. All other images are normal they 
may have a corrupt file on their server.

rick



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes



I was using the Ponta Delgada Passaportes last night. As I went through 
image 120, 121, etc, I came to image 130. Only half the image loaded. I tried 
the image after. It completely loaded. Since I was on Firefox, I tried Chrome. 
It didn't load there. I emailed the CCA and they said to use Internet Explorer 
(on one image??) I have a newer computer and they don't have IE anymore. They 
have Edge. I had the same display program. What do you guys see? Any idea of 
how to get that one image to display?

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915_item1/P130.html
  


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Did I find the right passport?

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Elaine:  I haven't found a Joao.
Shirley in CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Elaine Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 10:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Did I find the right passport?


  hi Margaret,

 I found on ancestry a NY immigration:  

 New York Passenger List, 1820-1957
Year: 1907: Arrival, New York, New York; Microfilm 
 Serial: T715, 1897-1959; Micriofilm roll: roll 0885;
 Line 24; Page Number: 85

Looking at the record again, I realize it has a different birth city - 
Funchal, so while the age is right, this may not be him.  But if you look up 
the page, Joao is line 28 that was the name I saw and jumped to the conclusion 
it was him.

  Its interesting to know that they would name their kids the same name - I 
guess George Foreman wasn't the first to do that, then! ;}

  Shirley, I do find the 14 year old Joao confusing, as there is a Virginia 
that was born in 1893 to Joao and Francisca, so unless there was a multiple 
birth or they adopted a child, he doesn't make sense.  But everything else 
matches up in terms of ages and names/parentage.

  Elaine 
  Elaine

  On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 7:37:45 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
Yes, and yes, it was.  Some times up to 4 and 5 Marias


If you look at the 17 year old Maria, record # 52 year 1890, on the top 
right page, 6th line down, it reads"secunda de nome", second of the name.  
This confirms she is the 2nd Maria of this family thus far.


Elaine, You mentioned Maria's Dad arrived in the USA same year, May 6th?  
What documentation do you have to prove this? Francisca's passport # 675 states 
she is 52 years and a widow.





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Did I find the right passport?

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what I see:  
I have them from Ribeira Quente.
Anybody else confused besides me
Shirley in CA
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 5:46 AM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Did I find the right passport?


  Looking at the record. Francisco/Francisca Rosa de Mello is the son/daughter 
of Manuel de Mello Barbosa and Maria Julia he/she is 50 years old and a 
widower/widow.

  Maria de Lima age 20, Maria do Coracao/Carmo de Lima age 17 and Joao Ignacio 
de Lima age 14 I don't have any info on him. are the children of Jose Ignacio 
de Lima and Francisca Rosa they are all single and all are from Sao Roque.  

  What I see in this record is Francisco/Francisca Rosa de Mello is most likely 
a relative the three minors and is accompanying them most likely to join their 
parents.

   

   

  Rick

   

  Richard Francis Pimentel

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  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

   

   

  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Elaine Mello
  Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:04 AM
  To: Azores Genealogy
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Did I find the right passport?

   

  Hi everyone,

   

 I've been going page by page from about 1904 onwards looking for my 
parternal grandmather, Maria Lima.   It's been great looking at these records 
for those years from Porto Delgada, because whomever was writing the logs had 
the clearest handwriting I've seen so far.  I think I found her, but they 
weren't listed as coming from Ribeira Quente.  I'm assuming this is a mistake, 
as they just did an ellipses from the person above them rather than to write 
the correct town down.  

   

  So on line 675 here:  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1906-1907/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1906-1907_item1/P114.html

   

  I see the passport for Francisca Roza de Mello, whose parents were Manuel de 
Mello Barboza and Maria Julia.

  The next line down is a Maria da Lima, with her parents listed, Joao Ignacio 
de Lima and Francisca Roza.

   

  The line after that is another Maria Lima, who would be the right age for my 
grandmother, who was born in 1890.  I can't read the middle name listed there, 
and now there are two Marias there.  Looking at my family tree, Manuel had a 
brother Jose who also married a Francesca and their daughter was Maria, but I 
thought she was the same age, and she would have been a de Mello or Barboza, 
not a Lima.  

   

  So is it possible that the first Maria was listed as my grandmother, but 
would in fact be the cousin?

   

  And if this is the correct record, my grandmother would have had a little 
brother, also named Joao?

   

  Thanks for you assistance!

   

  Elaine

   

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder My Origins Question - Azores & Finland/Northen Siberia

[Shirley Allegre]

He is one of my ancestors.  I have him from Bruges, Belgium.  I believe that I 
got the info from Rodrigo Rodrigues.
Shirley in CA
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder My Origins Question - Azores & 
Finland/Northen Siberia


  I always thought that William Vander Haegen was supposed to be from Flanders


  2016-09-21 3:49 GMT+01:00 luiznoia . :

I also have Finnish/Siberan in small percentages in my Azorean family line.

Eric Edgar



On Sep 20, 2016 3:45 PM, "Marilyn Thompson"  wrote:

  William Vander Haegen was supposed to be Flemish. He was the one who 
brought cheese making to the islands. He changed his name to Guillermo da 
Silveiria. He is said to be buried in the Church in Topo, Sao Jorge.


  On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Yes, many Azores people show the Finnish/Northern Sibeiran. It's not 
unusual. But as to why...I'll have to do some digging to find out.



Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:50 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

  Yes, both my sister and I have 3% Finnish - both are parents are 
Portuguese - my mother's family is from São Miguel, Açores going back to late 
1500s maybe earlier and my father's family is from mainland Portugal, Moimenta 
da Beira. Our mtDNA Haplogroup U5a1c.


  MaryAnn


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wrote:

I was looking at my Uncle's Family Finder My Origins results map 
and was curious about how he has 4% from Finland and Northern Siberia. I am not 
sure where that would have come from. He is Portuguese on both sides (Azores on 
one half and Madeira on other). Obviously there were Azorean settlers who 
originally came from all over Europe, such as Italy, Germany, Flanders 
(Silveira), Spain, so I imagine that someone could have come from that far 
north in Finland/Northern Sibeiria and their descendants eventually made it to 
the Azores.

Does anyone else or their family have Finland/Northern Siberian 
results from Azorean ancestry? I do have a few pai incongnitos in the records 
from the Azores, so it could come from that as well.

Any ideas or thoughts or ideas would be helpful.

Thanks,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New to tracing the Mello family tree

[Shirley Allegre]

They married in 1911, in Massachusetts.  The info is in my car right now.  I am 
upstairs and don't feel like going to the garage to get it.  I also found other 
info which I will try to send tomorrow.
I have attached a "Portuguese Words" list that I made up.  It should help a 
little.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elaine Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 3:07 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New to tracing the Mello family tree


  Hi Cheri,

  If we are related, it will be interested to see how, as I have so little 
information on my end.  Here's the info that I do have:

  grandfather - Antonio Mello  Born Feb 25, 1889, Immigrated April 18, 1901 
from Porta Delgada aboard the Dona Maria.  Died May 11, 1958 in New Bedford, 
MA. His parents are listed on the death certificate as Antonio Mello and 
Claudina Silva.
  grandmother - Maria Lima - Born Dec 25. 1891.  Immigrated August 12, 1907, 
though census shows anywhere from 1905 to 1907..   Died January 26, 1960 in New 
Bedford, MA. Her parents are listed as John Lima and Francisca Barboza.  The 
headstone lists her birth as 1890.  The 1891 date is from Antonio's 
naturalization papers in 1941.

  They married sometime around 1910 / 1911 and had 4 children from 1912  - 1926 
(Sara, Antone, Agnes and Mary Carmen).  I could not find a marriage certificate 
when looking at city hall, but I may not have searched far back enough to find 
it.  .

  Thanks for any help you can give!

  Elaine 


  On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:44:58 PM UTC-4, Elaine Mello wrote:
Hi everyone,

 I've begun searching for my father's side of the family with little to 
no information, other than what I found by going to the New Bedford, MA city 
hall to look up information about my grandparents.  I did find information on 
their death certificates, which helped a little, but my searching for 
additional information brings up a lot of conflicting information on Ancestry 
(such as naturalization papers listing one date for arrival, but searching for 
the boat lists a completely different date that does not have any recognizable 
names on the passenger list.)  

What I did find out is that my father was a 3rd generation of the same 
name (Antonio/Antone Mello, possibly DeMello) and that both grandparents came 
from Rebeira Quente, St. Michael, Azores around 1901 for my grandfather and 
about 1905 - 1907 for my grandmother (Maria Lima, born 1890 or 1891).

 Any tips or suggestions on where to look further would be appreciated!

 Thanks,

  Elaine 


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annos = years
baptismos = baptisms
casamentos = marriages
casado = married
defunto = deceased
dias = days
idade = age
exposo = boy orphan 
exposa = girl orphan
falecer = die/died
falecido = deceased
falleceo = died
freguesia = parish
viuva = widow
viuvo = widower
meze = month
mil = thousand
centos = hundred
obitos = deaths
primero = first
ultimo = last 
igreja = church
nasceu = born
neto = grandson
neta = granddaughter
paterno = paternal
materna/o = materna
perfilhacoes= adoptions
sobrinho = nephew
sobrinha = niece 
sua/com = with
mulher = wife/woman
irma/irmoa = sister
irmao = brother
Janeiro = January
Fevereiro = February
Marco = March
Avril = April
Maio = May
Junho = June
Julho = July
Agosto = August
Setembro = September
Octubro/Outubro = October
Novembro = November
Dezembro = December
domingo = Sunday
segunda = Monday or second
terca-feira = Tuesday
quarta-feira = Wednesday
quinta-feira = Thursday
sexta-feita = Friday
sabado = Saturday
1.  um = one
2.  dois = two
3.  tres = three
4.  quatro = four
5.  cinco = five
6.  seis = six
7.  sete = seven
8.  oito = eight
9.  nove = nine
10. des = ten
11.  onze = eleven
12.  doze = twelve
13.  treze = thirteen
14.  quartorze = 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New to tracing the Mello family tree

[Shirley Allegre]

Cheri & Elaine:  Please keep me posted as these are also my MELLO & BARBOSA 
lines.  
I will do some research on this tomorrow when I go to FHC.
Thanks,  Cousin Shirley in CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 3:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New to tracing the Mello family tree


  Your grandfather, Antonio de Mello, b. 26 Feb 1889 in Ribeira Quente. # 12 on 
the left:
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1888-1889/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1888-1889_item1/P25.html



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada


  On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Elaine,


Yep, I know EXACTLY what line this is. It's the Mello Barboza line. I 
believe your grandparents are cousins. I need to enter just a couple of more 
people and then my program will link them.


Yes, you are my cousin. All the Mellos from Ribeira Quente (RQ) are related.

Cheri



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada


On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Elaine Mello  wrote:

  Hi Cheri,

  If we are related, it will be interested to see how, as I have so 
little information on my end.  Here's the info that I do have:

  grandfather - Antonio Mello  Born Feb 25, 1889, Immigrated April 18, 1901 
from Porta Delgada aboard the Dona Maria.  Died May 11, 1958 in New Bedford, 
MA. His parents are listed on the death certificate as Antonio Mello and 
Claudina Silva.
  grandmother - Maria Lima - Born Dec 25. 1891.  Immigrated August 12, 
1907, though census shows anywhere from 1905 to 1907..   Died January 26, 1960 
in New Bedford, MA. Her parents are listed as John Lima and Francisca Barboza.  
The headstone lists her birth as 1890.  The 1891 date is from Antonio's 
naturalization papers in 1941.

  They married sometime around 1910 / 1911 and had 4 children from 1912  - 
1926 (Sara, Antone, Agnes and Mary Carmen).  I could not find a marriage 
certificate when looking at city hall, but I may not have searched far back 
enough to find it.  .

  Thanks for any help you can give!

  Elaine 



  On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:44:58 PM UTC-4, Elaine Mello wrote:
Hi everyone,

 I've begun searching for my father's side of the family with 
little to no information, other than what I found by going to the New Bedford, 
MA city hall to look up information about my grandparents.  I did find 
information on their death certificates, which helped a little, but my 
searching for additional information brings up a lot of conflicting information 
on Ancestry (such as naturalization papers listing one date for arrival, but 
searching for the boat lists a completely different date that does not have any 
recognizable names on the passenger list.)  

What I did find out is that my father was a 3rd generation of the 
same name (Antonio/Antone Mello, possibly DeMello) and that both grandparents 
came from Rebeira Quente, St. Michael, Azores around 1901 for my grandfather 
and about 1905 - 1907 for my grandmother (Maria Lima, born 1890 or 1891).

 Any tips or suggestions on where to look further would be 
appreciated!

 Thanks,

  Elaine 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Costa Carneiro, probably from Sao Miguel

[Shirley Allegre]

Julio:  See below in Fuschia.
RE  #3  (My 219)  Jacinta Rosa Linhares.  I double checked her DOB.  She was 
born 26 April 1763, and Baptised  2 May 1763.  See Ponta Garca births.  Item 
44, page 42 left top.

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Júlio 
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  Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 4:08 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Costa Carneiro, probably from Sao Miguel


  1. Manuel De LINHARES [25382] 1 was born between 1722 and 1742 in Ponta 
Delgada and died on 25 May 1782 in Ponta Garça. 


  Manuel married Antónia Maria de AMARAL [24930] 1 [MRIN: 12420], daughter of 
José De AMARAL [23682] 1 and Engrácia De MELO [24645],.1 Antónia was born on 15 
Aug 1740 in Ponta Garça, was christened on 21 Aug 1740 in Ponta Garça, died on 
24 Jun 1796 in Ponta Garça at age 55, and was buried in Ermida Saopaulo-Ribeira 
Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores. 


  Children from this marriage were: 

  + 2 Mi. Joaquim LINHARES [55042] was born on 10 Apr 1769 in Ponta 
Delgada. 


  + 3 Fii. Jacinta Rosa LINHARES [25696] 1 was born on 26 Apr 1773 in Ponta 
Garça, was christened on 2 May 1773 in Ponta Garça, and died on 6 Apr 1849 in 
Ribeira Quente at age 75. 



  Second Generation (Children)

--

  2. Joaquim LINHARES [55042] (Manuel De1) was born on 10 Apr 1769 in Ponta 
Delgada. 


  Joaquim married Josefa MARIA [55043] [MRIN: 26138] about 1804. Josefa was 
born on 27 Jul 1773 in Ponta Garça. 


  The child from this marriage was: 

  + 4 Mi. António Joaquim LINHARES [55041] was born on 25 Feb 1805 in 
Ribeira Quente. 


  3. Jacinta Rosa LINHARES [25696] 1 (Manuel De1) was born on 26 Apr 1773 in 
Ponta Garça, was christened on 2 May 1773 in Ponta Garça, and died on 6 Apr 
1849 in Ribeira Quente at age 75. 


  General Notes: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1849-1860/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1849-1860_item1/P3.html

  Jacinta married Leonardo COELHO [60140] [MRIN: 28681]. 


  The child from this marriage was: 

  + 5 Fi. Miquelina Joaquina Rosa COELHO [60139]





  domingo, 14 de Agosto de 2016 às 22:13:04 UTC, Ana Fravica escreveu:
Hi Cheri


Who are you? my family is Costa Fravica, maybe you are from family

quarta-feira, 22 de Dezembro de 2010 às 20:10:13 UTC, Cheri Mello escreveu:
  Here's a complete shot in the dark (with what few cookie crumbs I can 
find on the Internet).

  Family Search has some Rhode Island marriages online, but no images.  I 
found this marriage and I'm trying to chase the groom.  I have the bride pretty 
much figured out.

  9 Feb 1901 in Providence, Providence Co, Rhode Island
  Jose Desilva Carneiro , born 1877, age 24, son of Francisco C. and 
Francisca (great, huh) married
  Maria Thereza Mello, born 1883 (she lied; born 1885), age 18 (explains 
the year - at least I know my people can subtract), daughter of Jose and 
Francisca (I know them as Jose de Mello and Francisca de Jesus or Conceicao 
Correia).

  When I find Maria Thereza coming to America for the 2nd time, she has her 
2 daughters and the passaportes list his name as Jose da Costa Carneiro:
  
http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1911-1912/PPDL1911-1912_item1/P40.html

  She uses Maria Costa up to the 1920 U.S. Census.  She was in the 
Riverpoint area of West Warwick, Rhode Island.

  Cheri Mello
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Tainhas, Achada


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Costa Carneiro, probably from Sao Miguel

[Shirley Allegre]

Feel free to contact me for any additional info.

See below in red.Shirley in CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Júlio 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 4:08 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Costa Carneiro, probably from Sao Miguel


  1. My 438  Manuel De LINHARES [25382] 1 was born between 1722 and 1742 in 
Ponta Delgada and died on 25 May 1782 in Ponta Garça. Manoel was born 28 
February 1732, in the Sao Pedro church in Ponta Delgada.

  Manuel married My 439  Antónia Maria de AMARAL [24930] 1 [MRIN: 12420], 
daughter of  My 878 & 952 José De AMARAL [23682] 1 and My 879 & 953 Engrácia De 
MELO [24645],.1 Antónia was born on 15 Aug 1740 in Ponta Garça, was christened 
on 21 Aug 1740 in Ponta Garça, died on 24 Jun 1796 in Ponta Garça at age 55, 
and was buried in Ermida Saopaulo-Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores. 


  Children from this marriage were:   I have ten (10) children for this couple.

  + 2 Mi. Joaquim LINHARES [55042] was born on 10 Apr 1769 in Ponta 
Delgada. 


  + 3 Fii.  My 219.  I have her born in 1763.  I will have to 
recheck.Jacinta Rosa LINHARES [25696] 1 was born on 26 Apr 1773 in Ponta Garça, 
was christened on 2 May 1773 in Ponta Garça, and died on 6 Apr 1849 in Ribeira 
Quente at age 75. 



  Second Generation (Children)

--

  2. Joaquim LINHARES [55042] (Manuel De1) was born on 10 Apr 1769 in Ponta 
Delgada. 

  DOM   6 Jan 1794, Ponta Garca

  Joaquim married Josefa MARIA [55043] [MRIN: 26138] about 1804. Josefa was 
born on 27 Jul 1773 in Ponta Garça. 


  The child from this marriage was: 

  + 4 Mi. António Joaquim LINHARES [55041] was born on 25 Feb 1805 in 
Ribeira Quente. 


  3.  My 219  Jacinta Rosa LINHARES [25696] 1 (Manuel De1) was born on 26 Apr 
1773 in Ponta Garça, was christened on 2 May 1773 in Ponta Garça, and died on 6 
Apr 1849 in Ribeira Quente at age 75. 


  General Notes: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1849-1860/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1849-1860_item1/P3.html

  Jacinta married  My 218  Leonardo COELHO [60140] [MRIN: 28681]. 


  The child from this marriage was: 

  + 5 Fi. Miquelina Joaquina Rosa COELHO [60139]  Born 15 July 1807, Ponta 
Garca.  Married Joaquim da Silva on26 Feb 1829in Ponta Garca.





  domingo, 14 de Agosto de 2016 às 22:13:04 UTC, Ana Fravica escreveu:
Hi Cheri


Who are you? my family is Costa Fravica, maybe you are from family

quarta-feira, 22 de Dezembro de 2010 às 20:10:13 UTC, Cheri Mello escreveu:
  Here's a complete shot in the dark (with what few cookie crumbs I can 
find on the Internet).

  Family Search has some Rhode Island marriages online, but no images.  I 
found this marriage and I'm trying to chase the groom.  I have the bride pretty 
much figured out.

  9 Feb 1901 in Providence, Providence Co, Rhode Island
  Jose Desilva Carneiro , born 1877, age 24, son of Francisco C. and 
Francisca (great, huh) married
  Maria Thereza Mello, born 1883 (she lied; born 1885), age 18 (explains 
the year - at least I know my people can subtract), daughter of Jose and 
Francisca (I know them as Jose de Mello and Francisca de Jesus or Conceicao 
Correia).

  When I find Maria Thereza coming to America for the 2nd time, she has her 
2 daughters and the passaportes list his name as Jose da Costa Carneiro:
  
http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1911-1912/PPDL1911-1912_item1/P40.html

  She uses Maria Costa up to the 1920 U.S. Census.  She was in the 
Riverpoint area of West Warwick, Rhode Island.

  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lourenço Antonio Bonito Viera married to Ana Julia Linhares

[Shirley Allegre]

See below in red.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lourenço Antonio Bonito Viera married to Ana 
Julia Linhares


  Luis born 14 June 1856 with the parents listed as Lourenco Antonio Bonito and 
Anna de Jesus. Upper left:
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1849-1859/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1849-1859_item1/P74.html


  Lourenco Antonio, son of Jose Antonio de Medeiros and Anna Francisca married 
Anna Julia, daughter of Joao Vieira and Angelica Maria on 10 Jan 1839.
  Cheri:  Where did this marriage take place?   


  There's also an Lourenco Antonio, son of Manoel Antonio Bonito and Laurianna 
Jacinta who married Margarida Jacintha, dau of Pedro de Oliviera and Marianna 
Jacintha on 7 May 1855.


  My suggestion: Go collecting all the siblings of your Luis. Hopefully there 
are some after his birth who are born in the 1860s. It's in the 1860s where 
they start listing grandparents.  I have looked for siblings for Luis.  I 
couldn't find any after Luis.  I did find some before Luis.  I will send what I 
found ASAP.


  Cheri



  Cheri Mello
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  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada


  On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 5:21 PM, brownat68  wrote:

Hello


Wondering if anyone has these people and their ancestors I their tree:



Lourenço Antonio Bonito Viera married to Ana Julia Linhares (No birth, 
marriage, or death dates unfortunately)

Children: Luis Lourenço Bonito Viera, Birth: 1857, Ribeira Quente, São 
Miguel, Açores, Portugal

Marriage to: Jacinta Cândida Júlia da Costa Carneiro, 14 Jan 1880, Ribeira 
Quente, São Miguel, Açores, Portugal




I'd love to connect with you if you do.




Todd





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BALTEZAR GOMEZ DE MOIRA 's marriage

[Shirley Allegre]

Maria this is the best that I can figure out.  (This is a real hard one.)

16 June 1672
Balthezar Gomes Leandro
(Balthezar Gomes de Moira X Anna Va/Vieira?, deceased.)
SPOUSE
Isabel Pacheco de Liam
(Francisco Andrade X Isabel? Catharina Pacheco)
GODPARENTS
Balthezar de Moira X Barbara Va/Vieira

Hope this helps a little bit
Shirley in CA

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To: "AZORES" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:44 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] BALTEZAR GOMEZ DE MOIRA 's marriage



Help with names of parents? please?
Bottom right hand

Starting with the fifth line down.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699_item1/P19.html


Baltezar Gomez de Moira, son of Baltezar Gomez de Moira and his wife Anna(?) 
or Luzia (?) I can't figure it out)  both deceased, with Izabel Fo... (I 
know it's Fontes fm other records)-


Fifth line down:  looks like part of Izabel's name is Pachequa de 
"Liandres??? Daughter of Francisco de Andrade (?Coreia?)

And Catharina Pachequa de ?(Liandres??)

Godfather it says Baltezar Gomez de Moira "her" father and Barbara Va (?). 
did it say BARBARA Va was a wife of Baltezar?   I'm trying to figure out who 
is the child of Baltezar de Moira mentioned.  Can someone please help me 
with this?  Thank you.


Maria Elena

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas and the Counts of Benavente

[Shirley Allegre]

I have him born in Spain.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: cathybourgeois1218 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Cc: marra...@yahoo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:26 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas and the Counts 
of Benavente


  There is a discrepancy as to where he was born.  Was he born in Portugal or 
Baesa, Galiza Spain?

  On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 11:48:19 AM UTC-4, John Raposo wrote:
João Afonso (de Pimentel) “das Grotas Fundas
Died 2 Sept 1512

NB: this is the work of several people including Rodrigo Rodrigues, Andrew 
Rapoza, George Pacheco, Diana cestodio Silva, in addition to those cited.

NAME: He became known in St. Michael, Açores as "João Afonso das Grotas 
Fundas" [Frutuoso]. Frutuoso never gives him the family name Pimentel nor does 
he ever make reference to a relationship to the Spanish Counts of Benevente.  
This claim is made by his grandson  João Afonso, o Moço, of Faial da Terra, 
where he died on 16.4.1577.  On the cover of his will, in an old script, it 
says that the said  João Afonso, o Moço descendes from the Condes de Benavente 
of Castile.  


BIOGRAPHY: "The Pimentels and the Resendes families of the island of São 
Miguel descended from João Afonso de Pimentel who came with these names in the 
last quarter of the 15th century" [Familias Antigas da Povoação]. (It was also 
suggested that he arrive in the middle of the 15th century [James Guill]. "He 
settled in the place of Grotas Fundas, on the island of São Miguel, where he 
had a large family and house, by which he became well-known on the island as 
João Afonso das Grotas Fundas [Frutuoso]." "The origin of this João Afonso is 
wrapped in some mystery; nevertheless, his 5th grandson [through a daughter of 
João Afonso], Padre Pedro Furtado Leite, outlined his ancestry in a letter in 
which he wrote that his mother was descended from João Afonso who, in turn, was 
the descendant of the Counts of Benavente, of Spain. In truth, there are some 
nobiliaries that refer to a son of the third Count of Benavente (there is a 
perfect coincidence of dates), of the name João Afonso, who left Spain, and 
disappears from history. The third Count of Benavente, Alonso de Pimentel, also 
known as the Count of Mayorga, was married to Dona Maria de Quinones y Toledo. 
The subsequent nobiliaries referred to their son João Afonso de Pimentel 
[Familias]." No further details are given in Genealogia de los Condes y Duques 
de Benavente (at the Madrid Library), however. [J. Guill] This son would have 
been 60 to 70 years old when João Afonso das Grotas Fundas made his will, His  
great-grea-greatr grandson, Father Belchior Manuel de Resendes, in a letter, 
says that his 4th grandfather, João Afonso das Grotas Fundas was the son of a 
Count and exiled himself to S. Miguel for having committed a crime in Portugal. 


"The Pimentels belong to one of the most illustrious families of the 
Iberian peninsula and originate in Benavente, where they had a castle at the 
juncture of a gigantic triangular territory formed by the lands of Leon, 
Asturias, and Galicia and bordered by the rivers Esla and Orbigo [Familias]."

One Count built a hospital by the name of Nossa Senhora do Piedade to 
benefit the pilgrims traveling the Silver Route on the way to Santiago de 
Compostela. The church in Ponta Garça that serves the Grotas Fundas area where 
João Afonso was the first settler, was also called Nossa Senhora do Piedade, 
thus further suggesting the connection between João Afonso das Grotas Fundas 
and the Counts of Benavente. [Familias.]



It may be this same João Afonso that is mentioned to have contributed 80 
moios of wheat toward a program to direct fresh water from the land of Gaspar 
de Bettancurt to Ponta Delgada because before this time the residents of that 
town had to rely on well water (perhaps the town's population was growing too 
large to sustain itself on the number of wells then available) [Alverne].

João Afonso das Grotas Fundas was again credited as being the earliest 
settler of Grotas Fundas at the very beginning of Ponta Garça's settlement. (It 
was also suggested that, given the isolation and difficult access to Grotas 
Fundas, it could be assumed that João Afonso de Pimentel had a motive to flee 
to so remote a spot [J.Guill].) He made his will on 26 May 1511. In it he made 
his oldest son, João Afonso, and his son's wife, Catarina Manuel, the executors 
and ordered that a third of his lands be set aside to produce a benefit of 
10,000 reis [system of money later replaced by cruzeiros] for the purpose of 
having three masses said one week a year in perpetuity; the first on Monday for 
his faith in God to be a blessing on his soul; the second on Saturday in honor 
of the Peace of Christ and the last one on Saturday in honor of "Nossa Senhora" 
with all her prayers [Vida].

[Alverne]  Chronicas da Provincia de São João 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] father of the groom- Francisco Dutra de Mendonca

[Shirley Allegre]

Francisco Dutra de Mendonca.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Becky Mendonca 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 11:25 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] father of the groom- Francisco Dutra de Mendonca


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-C-1711-1809/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-C-1711-1809_item1/P172.html



  Rt side on the bottom...can anyone make out his first name??




  ​Thanks!!​


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] hawaii immigrants

[Shirley Allegre]

Theresa:  This is what I found in CONSULADO GERAL DE PORTUGAL EM HAWAII:
Passenger # 3636, Antonio Marques Carvalho, age 23, from Sao Miguel island.
SPOUSE
Theresa de Jesus, age 23
son Manoel, 11 months old.
Ship:  BRAUNFELS
arrived Hawaii on 4 April 1895

This would put Antonio & Theresa born about 1872.
Manoel would have been born about March 1894.

Have you tried looking for them on a census for Hawaii??
& Have you tried looking for the birth for Antone in Hawaii?
Or try the PASSPORT lists out of Sao Miguel Azores.

I have in my files a lot of CARVALHO from RIBEIRA QUENTE, Ponta Garca, 
Feteira, Maia, and Nordestinho.


Hope this helps a little.   Shirley in CA


- Original Message - 
From: "Theresa Entin" 

To: "Seekgene via Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:44 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] hawaii immigrants


Again, I am seeking help with a family that immigrated to Hawaii and then 
the sons came to Fall River MA.  Although Manuel the son shows as being born 
in Azores, he also says he is born in Hawaii.


ANTONIO  M CARVALHO was born about 1870. He married  THERESA  M S FITA. She 
was born

about 1870.

Antonio M Carvalho and Theresa M S Fita had the following children:

i. MANUEL M CARVALHO was born on 14 Dec 1892 in Azores. He died on 21 Jun
1972 in Broward, Florida, United States. He married Maria Carvalho, daughter 
of

Francisco Carvalho and Antonia C Benevides on 04 Jun 1917 in Fall River
Massachusetts. She was born in 1895 in Azores.

ii. ANTONE MARTIN CARVALHO was born on 15 Jul 1897 in Honolulu. He died in 
Aug

1972 in Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts, USA. He married Lydia Laforest,
daughter of Joseph Laforest and Marie Louise Perron on 17 Aug 1918 in Fall
River, Bristol, Massachusetts. She was born about 1903 in Massachusetts

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] hawaii immigrants

[Shirley Allegre]

Theresa this is from the KNOWLTON book:
Carvalho, Antonio Marques, age 23
SPOUSE: Theresa de Jesus, age 23
Child:  Manuel,  11 months
Ship: Braunfels  in 1894

Shirley in CA
Would you be so kind as to let me know if you ever find what village these 
people were from?  And who were their parents.


- Original Message - 
From: "Theresa Entin" 

To: "Seekgene via Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:44 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] hawaii immigrants


Again, I am seeking help with a family that immigrated to Hawaii and then 
the sons came to Fall River MA.  Although Manuel the son shows as being born 
in Azores, he also says he is born in Hawaii.


ANTONIO  M CARVALHO was born about 1870. He married  THERESA  M S FITA. She 
was born

about 1870.

Antonio M Carvalho and Theresa M S Fita had the following children:

i. MANUEL M CARVALHO was born on 14 Dec 1892 in Azores. He died on 21 Jun
1972 in Broward, Florida, United States. He married Maria Carvalho, daughter 
of

Francisco Carvalho and Antonia C Benevides on 04 Jun 1917 in Fall River
Massachusetts. She was born in 1895 in Azores.

ii. ANTONE MARTIN CARVALHO was born on 15 Jul 1897 in Honolulu. He died in 
Aug

1972 in Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts, USA. He married Lydia Laforest,
daughter of Joseph Laforest and Marie Louise Perron on 17 Aug 1918 in Fall
River, Bristol, Massachusetts. She was born about 1903 in Massachusetts

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help after brides name indicating she is a widow

[Shirley Allegre]

Here is what I have:
Bernarda de Oliveira
DOB 26 August 1669, SM-VFDC
DOD 15 Dec 1739. SM? VFDC
(Manoel de Sousa X Maria de Oliveira)  (Both from SM-VFDC)
Shirley in CA

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  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 10:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help after brides name indicating 
she is a widow


  I have them.


  I do not have Bernarda de Oliveira's baptism. I only have her father as 
Manuel da Sousa and mother as Maria de Oliveira who died before 5 Jun 1710. No 
source on that. Ugh!!


  I have Bernanda's marriage and death. That's it.

  Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Arruda married in Ponta Garca-VF-Sao Miguel, Azores on 1817-Jan-30 to Maria Jacinta

[Shirley Allegre]

Manita did I send you my GEDCOM?  Look for these people in there.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Manita M 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 5:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Arruda married in Ponta 
Garca-VF-Sao Miguel, Azores on 1817-Jan-30 to Maria Jacinta


  Do you have their baptism records?


  On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. I have them.



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada


On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Manita M  wrote:

  PONTA GARCA, Sao Miguel researchers, please check your tree for this 
couple and if you have any information on them or their ancestors, kindly share:


  Below you will find the marriage record CCA link for:


  Antonio de Arruda (parents were Jose de Arruda and Maria da Costa)
  who married in PG on 1817-Jan-30
  to Maria Jacintha de Jesus (parents were Joam de Mello and Joana de Jesus)




  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
  PONTAGARCA-C-1810-1849/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1810-1849_item1/P
  48.html





  On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

It got cut off on my end. Best not to put all your information in the 
subject line. I have Antonio de Arrudas, but I don't know what wife you want. 
You want to copy and paste your subject into the body of the email so all can 
see what couple you are working on?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help after brides name indicating she is a widow

[Shirley Allegre]

Manita:Re my 863 Bernarda de Oliveira:
Her 1st spouse was Domingos FERNANDES 
I descend from her #2 sp  My 862. Francisco Barbosa.
They married 17 August 1721. SM-VFDC
Francisco Barbosa, stonemason, widower of Maria (Fereira) Lima
SPOUSE
Bernarda de Oliveira, widow of Domingos Fernandes

Shirley in CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Manita M 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:39 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help after brides name indicating she 
is a widow


  Help with translation please!


  Below is a link to a marriage record that I need help with translating after 
the brides name.  Please refer to the top right, which is a continuation of the 
marriage record for Bernarda Oliveira and Francisco


  After the brides name, it says veuva (widow) de Domingos xx


  What is the ?





  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P112.html






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ponta Garca, Vila Franca do Campo, baptism, top, left side of image...Francisco

[Shirley Allegre]

Thanks for the info.
Shirley in CA
- Original Message - 
From: "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" <eliseuman...@gmail.com>

To: <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:31 AM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ponta Garca, Vila Franca do Campo, baptism, 
top, left side of image...Francisco



Hi Shirley,

You shoul "translate" the word "Theosorio" for TESOUREIRO (it was the church 
account keeper) :)


-Mensagem original-
De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de 
Shirley Allegre

Enviada: 16 de junho de 2016 18:03
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ponta Garca, Vila Franca do Campo, baptism, 
top, left side of image...Francisco


It looks like:

Francisco
DOB   26 March 1810
BAPT31 March 1810,  Nossa Senhora da Piedade church in Ponta Garca, Sao
Miguel, Azores
Father:  Joam de Medeiros, single
   Son of ???: (Jose de Medeiros X Francisca da Macedo)
Mother:  Antonia Maria, single
   Daughter of ???: (Manoel Rodrigues X Maria Rosa)
GODPARENT:
Francisco Jose Botelho da Silva, Theosorio IT LOOKS LIKE everybody was from 
NSP-Ponta Garca


Hopefully someone else can do a better job of deciphering than I did.
Shirley in CA



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From: "Aaron Pereira" <pereirah...@gmail.com>
To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:59 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ponta Garca, Vila Franca do Campo, baptism, top, 
left side of image...Francisco



Hello,
Would someone be kind enough to let me know whats going on in this record?
Its for Francisco, top, left side.  It appears Francisco may have been born 
out of wedlock.

Thank you in advance.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1799-1819/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1799-1819_item1/P310.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what it looks like to me:

10 May 1631
Manoel Gonsalves
(Miguel Gonsalves X Anna Francisca)
SPOUSE
Barbara Rois/Rodrigues
(Gaspar _, dec. X Maria Andre?)

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cesar Pimentel 
  To: Abridged recipients ; Cesar Pimentel 
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:35 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!


  Hello friends,




  As I preached here, I'm looking for my ancestor Manoel da Costa Carreiro.




  Manoel was the son of Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte.




  As I can not find the baptismal certificate of Manoel da Costa Carreiro , I 
decided to see if there was the marriage certificate of his parents, to get a 
more precise idea of both frequesia that should do the search, here they lived 
in Maia, but at the time of his birth, he had not Moreover church.




  So I was the star of the Matriz da Estrela, because it is in Ribeira Grande 
and has older records , and found a marriage between a Manuel and Barbara, who 
are the names that I seek , but I can not really read the last names to see if 
they are the Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte I seek.




  The link with the marriage registration is as follows




  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654_item1/P36.html




  The record is the last on the right. Does anyone could help me figure out the 
last names of Manuel and Barbara who married and contained in that record?




  Tank You a Lot




  Cesar Pimentel





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Manuel Costa Branco

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Theresa:  This is what I found in IMMIGRATION FROM AZORES TO HAWAII 
1879-1883, author was Bob de Mello.


Branco, Manual da Costa, age 39
(Francisco da Costa X Ana Jacinta0
From: Achada Nordeste
WIFE Maria da Estrela, age 34
(Bernardo Jose Cabral X Francisco de Jesus)

From R. de Piexe

CHILDREN:
Maria 10, (Born Achada Nordeste
JacintO 3 (Born R. De Piexe
Catarina 2 (Born island of Faial
Ship Abergeldie   THE ABERGELDIE ARRIVED HAWAII ABOUT 10 MAY 1883

From: CONSULADO GERAL DE PORTUGAL EM HAWAII

Manuel da Costa Branco, age 38, from Nordeste
SPOUSE:
Maria da Estrella, age 34
CHILDREN:
Maria 10
JacinthA 3
Catharina 2 years

Do you think that these might be your people:

Shirley in CA





- Original Message - 
From: "Theresa Entin" 

To: "Seekgene via Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:53 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Manuel Costa Branco


Hi All, I am looking for Manuel Costa Branco and his wife Maria Estrella who 
arrived in Hawaii around 1880.  There son of the same name was born “at sea”. 
Does anyone have info on this couple?
I think they might be in the book, Portuguese Immigrants by DeMello.  Any 
help would be appreciated.  Thanks


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ponta Garca, Vila Franca do Campo, baptism, top, left side of image...Francisco

[Shirley Allegre]

It looks like:

Francisco
DOB   26 March 1810
BAPT31 March 1810,  Nossa Senhora da Piedade church in Ponta Garca, Sao 
Miguel, Azores

Father:  Joam de Medeiros, single
   Son of ???: (Jose de Medeiros X Francisca da Macedo)
Mother:  Antonia Maria, single
   Daughter of ???: (Manoel Rodrigues X Maria Rosa)
GODPARENT:
Francisco Jose Botelho da Silva, Theosorio
IT LOOKS LIKE everybody was from NSP-Ponta Garca

Hopefully someone else can do a better job of deciphering than I did.
Shirley in CA



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To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:59 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ponta Garca, Vila Franca do Campo, baptism, top, 
left side of image...Francisco



Hello,
Would someone be kind enough to let me know whats going on in this record? 
Its for Francisco, top, left side.  It appears Francisco may have been born 
out of wedlock.

Thank you in advance.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1799-1819/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1799-1819_item1/P310.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents names, on marriage record

[Shirley Allegre]

The best that I can figure out is:

19 February 1635,  Sao Pedro marriages (I can't tell which island.)
Andre Gonsalves
(Belchoir Gonsalves X Maria Alvares)
SPOUSE
Maria da Benavides
(Mathias de _  X  Francisca Nobre??)
TESTIMONY
George Dias de Oliveira
Pedro Afonso de _
Dionisio Borges

Shirley in CA

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To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:20 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents names, on marriage record


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657_item1/P37.html

Does anybody can tell me parents names, on this marriage record? It's the 
last one record, on the right side.


Thanks in advance!

Ubirajara Jales de Lira

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/

[Shirley Allegre]

Was your Pedro da Costa married to Isabel Rodrigues?

Shirley in jCA
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  From: Cesar Pimentel 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 5:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/


  Cheri,


  Tanks, 


  In fact I took the hint to take a look at my mother's family , Rodrigues , 
originating in Portugal , Guarda



  Cesar Pimentel
  cesarpimentel@hotmail.com
  In the moment, loocking for Pedro da Costa´s baptism Record, in Maia.


  Em quarta-feira, 1 de junho de 2016 12:39:01 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
I do not know which freguesia you are researching. You can type in the 
freguesia name in the left column where it says "Pesquisar."

Or scroll down the left column. Pick Acores. Next, pick your island. Next, 
pick your concelho. Then pick your freguesia.

Good luck, Cheri


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for da Ponte family from Povoação

[Shirley Allegre]

I have 3 Pedro da Costa listed in my database.  Can you tell me who your Pedro 
da Costa was married to?  When?, Where?
Shirley in CA
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  From: Sandra Perez 
  To: Azores Genealogy Google Group 
  Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 7:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for da Ponte family from Povoação


  No Fala Portugues, however there are those in our group that do. I did not 
see the information that Matt posted.



  On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Cesar Pimentel 
 wrote:

Sandra, fala português?

Pedro da Costa is a name that Matt postes in his mensager. He, Pedro da 
Costa, is my 5th grandfather.

The information that had posted for Matt about he, Pedro da Costa, is 
correct.

Cesar.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for Piva, Pavao, Viveiros, Torres

[Shirley Allegre]

Michael:  I found the following in the book IMMIGRATION FROM AZXORES TO HAWAII  
1879-1883.  I hope that these might be your ancestors.

Joao Carlos Pavao, age 51
Father:  Antonio Carlos
Mother:  Maria Joaquina
From:  Bretanha
WIFE:  Maria Francisca,  age 48
Father:  Jose Inacio Raposo
Mother:  Francisca Candida
CHILDREN:
Francisca 23
Antonio 20
Luis 17
Mariana 14
Margarida 11
Manual 9
(All born Bretanha)
Ship Bell Rock

Four or my grgrandparents and my maternal grandfather went to Hawaii in 1883.  
It arrived in Hawaii about 3 Nov 1883.
Shirley in CA


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  Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 7:44 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for Piva, Pavao, Viveiros, Torres


  Hello!


  I am looking for the family of my great great granfdfather, Anthony Carlos 
Piva (Pavao). He was born in the Azores, but lived in Hawaii when he was 
married. As far back as I have is his parents John C. and Mary Pavao from Sao 
Miguel and his wife's parents Joseph Viveiros and Mary Torres. (see 
attachment). I am studying Portuguese hopefully to help open the doors to 
finding this family. 


  Thank you,


  Michael Brown
  Oregon, USA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading name of child on record - Felicianna?

[Shirley Allegre]

It looks like SEBASTIANNA.
Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 4:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading name of child on record - 
Felicianna?


  Cathy, it looks like Marianna to me.  Warm regards, 


  Maria Elena 

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  On May 7, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Cathy Bourgeois  
wrote:


Is the name of the child Felicianna?  Bottom right.  Looks like too many 
letters, so what is this name?


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752_item1/P6.html



Thanks,

Cathy






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading name of child on record - Felicianna?

[Shirley Allegre]

It is probably Emerencianna or Merencianna.
Shirley in CA
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To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 4:47 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading name of child on record - 
Felicianna?



It's not a name I've encountered, but what I see is "Mirincianna"
(M???nCianna)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading name of child on record - Felicianna?

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It looks like MERENCIANNA to me..
Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 4:02 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading name of child on record - Felicianna?


  Is the name of the child Felicianna?  Bottom right.  Looks like too many 
letters, so what is this name?

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752_item1/P6.html



  Thanks,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with padrinhos please.

[Shirley Allegre]

This is what it looks like to me.Shirley in CA
Maria
bapt:  23 Nov 1610, in Sao Rogue
(Pedro Gonsalves (probably) X Maria Nunes)
GODPARENTS   (compadres)
Manoel Pires, alfaite? = tailor  He was a tailor.  
& Maria Castanha, daughter of (Antonio Gonsalves).
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with padrinhos please.


  23 Nov 1610 Maria fa Pedro Gtz e Maria Nunes.  Padrinhos: Manoel Piz ? e 
Maria ? fa Antonio

  Gtz ? ---top right.

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1556-1617/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1556-1617_item1/P52.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with birth record of Antonio Jacinto de Amaral 1828

[Shirley Allegre]

oops.  The father is Andre Francisco de Amaral.

Shirley in CA
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  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with birth record of Antonio Jacinto de 
Amaral 1828


  This is how I read it:
  Andre 
  son of Francisco de Amaral, native Santos Reis Magos, place of Fenais da Vera 
Cruz
  and Maria Querbina de Amaral, native Achadina
  dob:  29 Feb 1828
  bapt:  4 Mar 1828
  GODFATHER  Antonio Feliciano Machado
  TESTIMONY   Jose Soares, & Eusibio Francisco da Ponte??

  That is the Best that I can do.  
  Shirley in CA
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To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:50 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with birth record of Antonio Jacinto de 
Amaral 1828


Can anyone help with this record. Does it list the Grandparents? I have 
added what I could figure out. Thank you in advance.  

 
Antonio son of Andre Francisco de Amaral natural of Santo Reis Magos 
village of Feenais da Vera Cruz n Maria Queribina de Amaral Natural Lugar  
  29 Feb 1828 baptized 4 March ___ ___ Francisco Jacinto de 
MedierosVigorio of this parish  he was God Father Antonio Feleiano



http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1826-1832/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1826-1832_item1/P43.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with birth record of Antonio Jacinto de Amaral 1828

[Shirley Allegre]

This is how I read it:
Andre 
son of Francisco de Amaral, native Santos Reis Magos, place of Fenais da Vera 
Cruz
and Maria Querbina de Amaral, native Achadina
dob:  29 Feb 1828
bapt:  4 Mar 1828
GODFATHER  Antonio Feliciano Machado
TESTIMONY   Jose Soares, & Eusibio Francisco da Ponte??

That is the Best that I can do.  
Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:50 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with birth record of Antonio Jacinto de 
Amaral 1828


  Can anyone help with this record. Does it list the Grandparents? I have added 
what I could figure out. Thank you in advance.  


  Antonio son of Andre Francisco de Amaral natural of Santo Reis Magos village 
of Feenais da Vera Cruz n Maria Queribina de Amaral Natural Lugar   
 29 Feb 1828 baptized 4 March ___ ___ Francisco Jacinto de MedierosVigorio 
of this parish  he was God Father Antonio Feleiano


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1826-1832/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1826-1832_item1/P43.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar Rebelo and Maria Jorge 1696 marriage Sao Miguel VFDC

[Shirley Allegre]

We will have to check on this ! ! !
I am still waiting for you to send info re Andre Pereira X Maria dos Santos 
down to you.

Shirley in CA
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar Rebelo and Maria Jorge 1696 marriage 
Sao Miguel VFDC



Gaspar Rebelo and Maria Jorge are my 7th great-grandparents too!
MNK

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar Rebelo and Maria Jorge 1696 marriage Sao Miguel VFDC

[Shirley Allegre]

They are my 7th grgrandparents.
Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 6:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar Rebelo and Maria Jorge 1696 marriage 
Sao Miguel VFDC


  Thank you, Cheri! They are my husband’s 8th greats also.

  Erica

   

  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
  Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:52 PM
  To: Azores Genealogy
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar Rebelo and Maria Jorge 1696 marriage 
Sao Miguel VFDC

   

  They are my 8th greats.

  Gaspar Rebelo, son of Manuel Rebello and Maria Sampaio

  Maria Jorge, daughter of father unknown and Isabel Jorge.

  I don't go any further back (or did not enter it into the computer).

  Gaspar & Maria had at least 9 kids.




  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Shirley Allegre's email

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The issue is now resolved.
Shirley in CA
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  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 2:44 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Shirley Allegre's email


  Shirley Allegre has been having problems with her email or Internet service. 
So if you have been emailing her, you now know the problem. No, she did not 
tell me when the issue would be resolved.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on word after name

[Shirley Allegre]

Lillian I have tried to attach my "Portuguese word list".   Let me know if you 
get it.

Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:20 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on word after name


  This would be right hand page, 3rd line down first word after the name 
Marianna Consula.  Looks like "fiadeina."  


  Any ideas?


  Thank you...really wish I could read and understand Portuguese better.


  Appreciate the help.


  Lillian

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annos = years
baptismos = baptisms
casamentos = marriages
casado = married
defunto = deceased
dias = days
idade = age
exposo = boy orphan 
exposa = girl orphan
falecer = die/died
falecido = deceased
falleceo = died
freguesia = parish
viuva = widow
viuvo = widower
meze = month
mil = thousand
centos = hundred
obitos = deaths
primero = first
ultimo = last 
igreja = church
nasceu = born
neto = grandson
neta = granddaughter
paterno = paternal
materna/o = materna
perfilhacoes= adoptions
sobrinho = nephew
sobrinha = niece 
sua/com = with
mulher = wife/woman
irma/irmoa = sister
irmao = brother
Janeiro = January
Fevereiro = February
Marco = March
Avril = April
Maio = May
Junho = June
Julho = July
Agosto = August
Setembro = September
Octubro/Outubro = October
Novembro = November
Dezembro = December
domingo = Sunday
segunda = Monday or second
terca-feira = Tuesday
quarta-feira = Wednesday
quinta-feira = Thursday
sexta-feita = Friday
sabado = Saturday
1.  um = one
2.  dois = two
3.  tres = three
4.  quatro = four
5.  cinco = five
6.  seis = six
7.  sete = seven
8.  oito = eight
9.  nove = nine
10. des = ten
11.  onze = eleven
12.  doze = twelve
13.  treze = thirteen
14.  quartorze = fourteen
15.  quinze = fifteen
16.  dezeseis = sixteen
17.  dezesette = seventeen
18.  dezoito = eighteen
19.  dezenove = nineteen
20.  vinte = twenty
30.  trinta = thirty
40.  quarenta = forty
50.  cincoenta = fifty
60.  sessenta = 60
70.  setenta = seventy
80.  oitenta = eighty 
90.  noventa = ninety

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii

[Shirley Allegre]

See below in red. Shirley in CA
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  From: 'Jo Anne Hartmann' via Azores Genealogy 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 8:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii


  Hi Shirley!  How are you doing - I remember we are practically "neighbors" 
since I live in Truckee most of the year..


  I have never "heard" of any sibs for grandfather Mello or grandmother Maria - 
I just remember hearing snips of conversations between my Mom and Dad about his 
youth - 


  1. talked about enormous amount of siblings and how fat grandma got, but no 
mention of his aunts and uncles.


  2.  I found (and unfortunately do not have that paperwork printed off here in 
So. Cal) a record of a 15 yr old stowaway by the name of Mello - in 1881of 
course, how do I prove that person is my grandpa?


  3.  I'll have to look at the 1890 HI census -- I know I found the family in 
Hawaii on the later census.  They were in Hilo for awhile but my dad was born 
in Honokaa - of course, I do not have a birth certificate or any tangible 
evidence such as church records as I cannot access them online.  


  4.  Very little info on grandma - do not have any written docs on their 
marriage.  Most is from census.


  Question- where does the name Fregoso come from?  Is it like the Spanish 
where they use the mother's maiden name as the son's middle name?   I don't 
know.


  When I get back to Truckee, I should pack up all I have and come see you  -- 
you are so well versed in doing this.  Yes, come and see me.  I will be 
waiting.  Let me know when you are coming so that I will be home.








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  From: Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net>
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii



  If he was born in 1866, and went to Hawaii in about 1881, he would have been 
about 15 years old.
  I am looking at Bob de Mello's book that shows immigrants to Hawaii 
1879-1883.  There are about ten pages of MELLOs.  
  Do you know of any siblings for Manuel Fragoso de Melo?  I can look through 
the pages and try to find him.
  Have you looked at the 1890 Census in Hawaii?  That might help.
  Do you know where he lived in Hawaii?  Or was born?

  Shirley in CA
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Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii


And therein lies the rub -- I have NO info on my great grandparents!






From: "danandma...@comcast.net" <danandma...@comcast.net>
To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: azores <Azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii



Jo, do you know his parents names and and birthday?  I have a Manuel 
Fragoso de Melo born in 1866 but no other info on him besides having 5 
sibblings.  I do have ancestors.  Please let me know.


Maria Moore



From: "Cheri Mello" <gfsche...@gmail.com>
To: "azores" <Azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:47:35 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii



Repost for Jo Mello Hartmann , joa1943 at yahoo.com



Hi!  My maiden name is Mello - my grandfather's name was Manuel Fregoso 
Mello.  He was born on one of the Azorean islands in 1866!  I believe he 
emigrated to Hawaii in 1881 where he married Maria Medeiros abt 1888/9.  
Records a little shaky.  I understand the name Mello was so common in Hawaii 
the family was using Fregoso as their surname while there for a timethat 
could just be a family story..Most of the 16 kids were born in Hawaii, as 
was my father, Ernest Mello in 1901!


Don't know how common Fragoso/Fregoso was in Azores..


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[Shirley Allegre]

Yes I have seen this before.  My mother's father was Joe de Mello.  About 1915 
he added Pine.  I don't know where the Pine came from.  One story is that there 
was a Pine Tree in the yard, and that is why he added Pine.

Shirley in CA
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  From: Linda McLellan 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 9:51 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao 
Miguel


  I need help with the Fragoso last name and I was wondering if any of you have 
ever seen this before, where a last name just seems to appear out of nowhere.


  so, I have discovered something interesting.  In all of the records that I 
have discovered so far on my father's side the last name is always d'Andrade.  
There are only 2 entries where Fragoso is referenced.  1.  Manuel's baptismal 
certificate has his father's last name as d'Andrade (no mention of Fragoso) but 
on Maria Jose Cabral's (his wife) baptismal record, there is a margin notation 
that she married Manuel d'Andrade Fragoso (now they added Fragoso to his last 
name).  2.  The other record which shows Fragoso is on a birth record of Maria 
who's father's name is Manuel D'Andrade Fragoso (not the same manuel as above 
but tracing the lineage he was brother of the Manuel above's father).  Does 
that make sense?  Anyhow, this is a bit of a mystery.  How and why did the 
Fragoso name just appear?




  Here is the record for Manuel D'Andrade

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1895-1899/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1895-1899_item1/P239.html



  Here is the record for Maria Jose (margin notation where Fragoso is now added 
the Manuel d'Andrade's last name)

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1900-1905/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1900-1905_item1/P269.html



  Here is the record for Maria who's father is Manuel dAndrade Fragoso brother 
to Jacintho d'Andrade father of the Manuel above



  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1900-1905/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1900-1905_item1/P256.html

  On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 1:10:03 PM UTC-5, Linda McLellan wrote:
Hello All,

My name is Linda and my father immigrated from Rabo de Peixe, Azores to 
Canada.  Our family last name is Fragoso which is very rare.  Would love to 
meet any other Fragoso's.

Thanks

Linda


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with bride's village please.

[Shirley Allegre]

I think that it says that Maria's village is this freguesia.  (Which would be 
ROSARIO.)
Shirley in CA
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  From: Sandra Perez 
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  Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 9:03 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with bride's village please.


  Domingos de Sousa fo Francisco Frz and Isabel Rois nal NS da Estrella married 
Maria de Pemental fa Francisco de Oliveira and Isabel Lopes 5 Nov 1665--bottom. 
 I cannot make out Maria's village.

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683_item1/P137.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii

[Shirley Allegre]

If he was born in 1866, and went to Hawaii in about 1881, he would have been 
about 15 years old.
I am looking at Bob de Mello's book that shows immigrants to Hawaii 1879-1883.  
There are about ten pages of MELLOs.  
Do you know of any siblings for Manuel Fragoso de Melo?  I can look through the 
pages and try to find him.
Have you looked at the 1890 Census in Hawaii?  That might help.
Do you know where he lived in Hawaii?  Or was born?

Shirley in CA
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  From: 'Jo Anne Hartmann' via Azores Genealogy 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii


  And therein lies the rub -- I have NO info on my great grandparents!





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  Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 3:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii



  Jo, do you know his parents names and and birthday?  I have a Manuel Fragoso 
de Melo born in 1866 but no other info on him besides having 5 sibblings.  I do 
have ancestors.  Please let me know.


  Maria Moore

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  From: "Cheri Mello" 
  To: "azores" 
  Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:47:35 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoso Mello to Hawaii



  Repost for Jo Mello Hartmann , joa1943 at yahoo.com



  Hi!  My maiden name is Mello - my grandfather's name was Manuel Fregoso 
Mello.  He was born on one of the Azorean islands in 1866!  I believe he 
emigrated to Hawaii in 1881 where he married Maria Medeiros abt 1888/9.  
Records a little shaky.  I understand the name Mello was so common in Hawaii 
the family was using Fregoso as their surname while there for a timethat 
could just be a family story..Most of the 16 kids were born in Hawaii, as 
was my father, Ernest Mello in 1901!


  Don't know how common Fragoso/Fregoso was in Azores..


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[Shirley Allegre]

It also says that Manoel Faria was a WIDOW.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao 
Miguel?


  It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out. You're in 
1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as someone said 
earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of Faial" if someone came 
from there.
  Cheri

  On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura"  wrote:

I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that reffers 
to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.


2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel 
:

  I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with Faial



  Rick



  Richard Francis Pimentel

  Epping, NH





  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sandra Perez
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
  To: Azores Genealogy Google Group
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao 
Miguel?



  Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R. Grande.  It 
says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the Isalnd.  Top left.

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation confirmation

[Shirley Allegre]

It looks like:
DOB: 1 October 1867
BAPT: 9 Aug 1868
GODPARENTS
Joao Jose da Silveira, married, laborer
and his wife Anna Josefa

Shirley in CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ângela Loura 
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  Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 5:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation confirmation


  I can read October, but can't figure out the day.
  "(...) e Barbara Florinda. Foram (other line) padrinhos João José da Silveira 
(...)"


  2016-01-13 1:38 GMT+00:00 themom8682 via Azores Genealogy 
:

I think this record is my great grandfather.  The only US record I have 
found that I know with certainty is him is his death record (1912) which lists 
his parents as "John Silveira" and "Marianna Florinda" and gives his birth as 
"1870" "Azores".   What I can get from this record is that he was baptized 9 
August 1868, his father is Joao Silveira de Souza and his mother is Marianna 
Florinda, paternal grandparents Manuel Silveira de Souza and Anna Luiza, 
maternal grandparents Antonio Jose Vieira and Barbara Florinda For 
godparents.  I cannot make out what is written after Florinda.  More 
importantly, it looks like the record states that his birth was in October 1867 
but that line is really difficult to make out because of bleed-through from the 
back side of the page (I'm guessing).  It is the record on the top right, #35, 
Jose.


1.  Did I get the information correct?
2.  Can anyone help with the last part of Barbara Florinda's name?
3.  Can anyone verify/clarify the birth date in October?



http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1861-1870/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1861-1870_item1/P217.html


Thank you all





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Bella:  I am doing some research for my husband's cousin.  His name is 
Melvin Silva, Jr.  His grandfather was John Silva.  I have managed to get a 
copy of JOHN COSTA SILVA's death certificate here in California.  It lists 
John's parents as Thomas Silva from Azores and Mary E. from Azores.

This is what I have so far:
Thomas Silva X Maria "Mary" E. Costs:
CHILDREN
John Costa Silva
dob  2 Feb 1881, Faial, Azores (Don't know which village.), died 22 May 
1954, Alameda County, California

Isabel Silva of San Leandro, California
Marianna Silva, Faial, Azores
Manuel Silva, Faial, Azores

So far I have looked in EVERY village for  a Thomas Silva that had a son, 
Joao who was born 2 Feb 1881.  I haven't found anything.


If you should happen to find any info on these people, I would really 
appreciate hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.
P.S. Where did you live in California.  My father's family is from Alameda 
County.  My mother's family is from Santa Clara County.


Shirley in CA

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To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry


The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after showing 
up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in testing or 
genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. Three 
grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth grandparent 
is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with relatives 
in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and Calif 
growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just let me 
know!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of great-uncle from Faial da Terra

[Shirley Allegre]

Mother is Josefa da Lema.

Shirley in CA
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  From: Paul 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 9:29 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of great-uncle from Faial da Terra


  Hello group:


  I need some assistance figuring out my 6th great-uncle's given name. His DOB 
is 30 Jul 1739 Faial da Terra. Pai is Joao Rapozo from Faial da Terra, Mai is 
Josefa from Sao Jorge, Nordeste



  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P127.html
 lower left record.



  Thanks,
  Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CHILDREN of João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

[Shirley Allegre]

If you get this info on Joao Afonso da Pimentel's children, would you please 
forward it to me.   
I have 5 children for Joao X Isabel Gonsalves.   I descend from their son 
CAPTAIN Joao Afonso Pimentel o Velho (My # 57,184).
I estimate that he was born about 1490.  I don't know where.  
Thanks.Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 5:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CHILDREN of João Afonso das Grotas Fundas


  If you have their dates you can easily find the records


  2015-12-10 13:40 GMT+00:00 Manita M :

Good morning from Toronto, 

Does anyone in this group have the actual CCA links for the baptisms of the 
children of João Afonso das Grotas Fundas? 

I realize their names and their descendant names are in RR's book but I 
have yet to see the actual baptism records. 

Thanks. 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Son born 5 days after marriage?

[Shirley Allegre]

I once found a marriage in the morning.  The child was baptised in the 
afternoon.

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 3:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Son born 5 days after marriage?


  Mom's name has Raphael's "p" running into it. He was living in Nordestinho. 
The church there is Sao Pedro. That's is where you will find his baptism (and 
mom's name, but someone here will probably figure it out).


  Looks like you have baby Pedro right. He was born in wedlock. That's why I 
always start to look for the kids the day after marriage. Well, I look for a 
couple of years before, just in case.

  Cheri



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada


  On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Sandra Perez  
wrote:

Raphael Pereira and Francisca de Souza Medeiros maried 26 Apr 1721.  What 
is Raphael's mother's name and where was he born?  Bottom left.


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1688-1730/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1688-1730_item1/P134.html


Second link.  Their son,Pedro, born 1 May 1721. Is this right?  Right 
bottom.


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1707-1729/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1707-1729_item1/P148.html




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial Azores

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi All:  I need some help.  I am looking for someone in Faial Azores.  This is 
what I have:

Alameda County Death Certificate:
John Costa Silva
DOB 2 Feb 1881, Faial, Azores
DOD 22 May 1954
Last residence:  Alquire Road, 
Alvarado, Alameda, California
PARENTS
Thomas Silva, from Azores
Mary E., from Azores
SPOUSE
Annie C. Silva (She was a Davilla)

Any help will be appreciated.   Thanks

Shirley in CA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading marriage of Simão Martins to Maria Pacheca, Porto Judeu, 1672

[Shirley Allegre]

It looks like Simao Martins son of JOAM SOUSA LUIS X ANNA MARTINS.
Shirley in CA
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  Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:38 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading marriage of Simão Martins to Maria 
Pacheca, Porto Judeu, 1672


  These are my ancestors and this appears to be the first marriage recorded in 
Porto Judeu (unless there are older missing books).  I can't make out the 
groom's father's name.




  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726/TER-AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726_item1/P4.html






  What I see is 30 Oct 1672, Simão Martins, son of ??? Luiz and Anna Martins 
with Maria Pacheca, daughter of Pedro Gonçcalves and Maria Pacheca, 
parishioners of Santo Antonio of Porto Judeu.


  Any help to fill in the blank or to correct any mistakes is greatly 
appreciated.


  Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with mothers given name

[Shirley Allegre]

It looks like Theodozia de Souza.  Natives and residents of Agua Retorta.

Shirley in CA
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  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with mothers given name


  Theodozia






  2015-11-14 18:33 GMT+00:00 Paul :

I need some help with Manoel Ferreira (5X ggrandfather) mothers name. To me 
it looks like Theodozia. Record top right.




http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752_item1/P143.html



Thanks,
Paul G.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Sao Pedro church in Vila Franca (Sao Miguel island) in the 1700s?

[Shirley Allegre]

I have 7 children for Manoel Pacheco X Maria da Trindade.
Maria da Trindade is sister to my Antonio da Costa.
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Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Sao Pedro church in Vila Franca 
(Sao Miguel island) in the 1700s?



Thought I posted this already, but I descend from Maria da Trinidade married 
to Manoel Pacheco.

MNK

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Sao Pedro church in Vila Franca (Sao Miguel island) in the 1700s?

[Shirley Allegre]

Maria:  Which one of Manoel Furtado X Marianna's kids do you descend from???
I descend from ANTONIO DA COSTA.
Shirley in CA

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Sao Pedro church in Vila Franca 
(Sao Miguel island) in the 1700s?



Well, that is getting a little technical for me! Are you somehow able to 
match a chromosome segment to an ancestor?  I am descended from Manoel 
Furtado and Marianna da Trinidade also, And I seem to remember several 
others on the list that are descendants too. I'm a little confused, does 
this mean you are NOT descended from Manoel Morais and Margarida Teixeira?

Maria Natalia

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Melchior (Belchior) Coelho Borges and Ursula Coelho - Terceira, Azores

[Shirley Allegre]

David:  I have these people in my ancestry.  But, I have been sick for six 
days.  My head feels like it has been in a cement mixer.
If you would send me your phone number, I will call you.  You can send it to 
shir...@digitalpath.net

Shirley in CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kawika322 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:01 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Melchior (Belchior) Coelho Borges and Ursula 
Coelho - Terceira, Azores


  I recently was able to extend my Terceira line a generation or two with help 
of the Terceira marriage Index (thanks to all involved who worked on it btw), 
and I came across some ancestors that I was hoping others might have some info 
on, or a connection to. (I saw some old posts regarding them and how a few 
people on the list were related)...


  Melchior Coelho Borges My #3504 and Ursula Coelho/a My #3505 of Porto Judeu 
were the parents of Ines Fernandes, who was one of my direct ancestors. She was 
married to Manuel Nunes Pereira. I wanted to see if anyone had anything further 
back than Melchior Coelho Borges and Ursula Coelho? I found something from a 
post and someones genealogy page that stated the parents of Ursula Coelho were 
Pedro Goncalves Linhares and Justa Coelho, okay and the parents of Melchior 
Coelho Borges were Antonio Fernandes da Costa and Mecia Coelho, I have 
different parents.  however no sources were listed. I would like to look at the 
actual sources if possible. 


  I scanned through a bit of the genealogias de Terceira by Coelho Borges, and 
the Fenix Angrense by Manuel Luis Maldanado and found an Ursula Coelho who was 
married to Melchior Coelho Borges. The parents of Urusula are listed as Gaspar 
Goncalves Linhares and Justa Coelho. Are these the correct individuals? and if 
so, is it Gaspar or Pedro Goncalves Linhares?


  Any additional info would be greatly appreciated..what other sources are 
there etc..?..since the church records do not go back that far in that 
freguesia. 


  Thanks, 


  David  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

[Shirley Allegre]

See below in red.  I haven't worked on this line in a long, long time.  I got 
some of the info from geneall.net.  AND some from George Pacheco, plus other 
people.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ângela Loura 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas


  Yes, in the meantime i started reading the hole thread and was looking at the 
info in geneall


  2015-11-02 18:01 GMT+00:00 Manita M :

It's in Spain.  Baesa, Galiza, Spain.

Context - here is a post I made to a Spanish genealogy group:

I show that he was in Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel, Azores from 1460-1480.

my 13x great grandfather was Joao Afonso de Pimentel birth circa 1400's in 
? and died 02-Sep-1512 in Sao Miguel, Azores, PORTUGAL.  His parents are 
Alfonso de Pimentel y Enriquez, III conde de Benavente (born 1432 and died 1461 
Benavente) and Maria Vigil de Quinones y Toledo (b. 1436 and died 12-Apr-1477 
Toledo).  I need evidence that my 13x great grandfather is the child of this 
couple as there is mystery around him.

DON Afonso de Pimentel's father was DON Rodrigo Afonso Pimentel, 2nd Count 
of Benavente.

http://www.xenealoxiasdoortegal.net/ortegal/pimentel.htm


On Nov 2, 2015 12:56 PM, "Ângela Loura"  wrote:

  Olá Manita,


  Do you mean Benavente in Portugal (mainland)?


  2015-11-02 17:34 GMT+00:00 Manita M :

Hola! 

Is there anyone on this list that can share more information on the 
history and story beyond what JR provided for João Afonso das Grotas Fundas?

I'm heading to Portugal on the 14th and I'm seriously considering a 
detour to Benavente, Spain but would like to be armed with more information. 

Does anyone have a CCA link to Joao Afonso death record or are you 
relying on RR's information? 

Where was he born?  Does anyone have that record?

On Sep 2, 2015 12:14 AM, "JR"  wrote:

  I will let people more knowledgeable about Joao Afonso discuss his 
history and story. 


  For now I can tell you that Grotas Fundas is a neighbourhood, even 
today, on the eastern border of the village of Ponta Garca. Because of the 
hills and mountains, the town of Ponta Garca ends there and borders hills 
surrounding Ribeira Quente. There is a very nice beach at the bottom that was 
actually part of the property of Dr, Agusto Botelho de Simas. It was his summer 
home. He was a well known and respected doctor in the 1950-80 era, based in 
Vila Franca, now deceased. There is a bust of him in the main square honoring 
his life and work. The beach is now public with public access. From there you 
get fabulous views of the peninsulas jutting out into the ocean, east and west, 
and south is the ocean.. And you might even see whales or dolphins swimming by. 
Looking east is Ribeira Quente, but its view is blocked by a huge rolling 
hills, beautiful in their right. Looking west is the coastline leading to Vila 
Franca, easily visible, an outstanding view.


  The land is rich and suitable for farming and was covered by 
vineyards in times past, and I guess that's what made it so attractive to our 
ancestors. Apparently, other well known families from the upper class owned 
land there. There is a trail, still in use for hikers, that people took in the 
past, by foot and donkey from Grotas Fudas to Ribeira Quente. They were mostly 
cousins, farm workers and fisherfolk and exchanged produce and goods. You often 
read about ancestors that lived in Grotas Fundas or the place called "Ribeira 
Quente, limit de fraguesia de Ponta Garca." It was also the shortest way to 
Ribeira Quente and Povoacao. Otherwise, you have to go north, way up to the 
main road, where essentially you are on top of hill. There is a long, winding 
and steep road, called the Guiteria that starts at Grotas Fundas and makes it 
way up the main road. It is pastoral and you might encounter cows on the 
moo-ve! Sorry couldn't resist. At the top you will be rewarded with a vista of 
the whole of Ponta Garca and Vila Franca. Take your camera!


  JR




  On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 9:02:45 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado 
wrote:
I would like the answer to that question too!   

I have a few questions: 

1.  What is the story? 

I tried to read the section on him in "Familias Antigas Povoação" 
but my Portuguese is limited.  I only recognize words ...something about 
torture, abandon, going to Rome to ask the Pope for forgiveness, walking to 
Santiago de Compostela and building a hospital. 

2.  What is the controversy? 

3.  Is there further study being done on him?  What other source 
records exist on him? 

4.  Now that we have DNA testing.  Is it possible now to prove 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda?

[Shirley Allegre]

Diane:  This is what it (kind of) looks like to me:
ALFERES Pedro Dutra de Faria, native this freguesia of Santa Catarina
DOD 7 Sep 1711
age either setenta or secenta = 70 or 60 years, plus or minus
received the sacraments
I can't read the rest.
Shirley in CA

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  From: Diane George 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:49 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de 
Lacerda?


  Hi,

   

  I can’t translate the death record at 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P169.html
 , bottom entry, left page and top right page. It appears to be for Pedro Dutra 
de Faria with death on 7 September 1711, but I can’t translate enough of the 
rest of it to make sense of it. I hope someone can help.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Diane George 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardino? Lordello - April 28 1857 Santo Espirito, Santa Maria Azores.

[Shirley Allegre]

The child is JOSE, son of Bernardino Jose da Fontes X Maria Jacintha de Jesus, 
residents of Nossa Senhora da Gloria, 
termo this parochial of Nossa Senhora da Purificacao, place of Santo Espirito, 
island of Santa Maria.
PATERNAL Grandparents
Antonio Jose da Fontes X Bernardina Jacintha  (Looks like they are both 
deceased.)
MATERNAL  GPs
Pai Incognito X Maria Jacinta
Jose was Born 23 April 1857
baptised 30th of same month
GODPARENTS
Jose Maria Carvalho, single
& Maria Jacinta Lima?
That is what it looks like to me.  Maybe someone else can do a lot better.
Shirley in CA



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  From: George Sousa 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 8:24 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardino? Lordello - April 28 1857 Santo 
Espirito, Santa Maria Azores.


  A second set of eyes on the first name of the fourth and final entry on this 
page (link below) would be greatly appreciated.


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1855-1860/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1855-1860_item1/P30.html



  I think the child's name is Bernardino.


  Thank you in advance...


  George

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