Re: [backstage] Live football score data

2011-06-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 20 Jun 2011, at 08:18, Richard Lockwood wrote: Morning all, I suspect the answer to this is no, but is there a BBC feed of live football score data - ie the data that provides the live scores on a Saturday and Sunday? I've had a look around but can't find one - am I just being dim, or

Re: [backstage] Integrating iPlayer (Android) - from outside the UK :-(

2011-06-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 19 Jun 2011, at 23:16, blueBill Mobile wrote: At the time it wasn't clear to me whether I was fairly using the BBC service or not, so the integration was not made publicly available; in any case, after more or less one month I pushed a release of my app with other features that worked

Re: [backstage] Ping...

2011-06-04 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 3 Jun 2011, at 19:48, Kieran Kunhya wrote: I ended up stealing Mo's ideas about open source broadcast*, having read about them on this list, and am now working to get a similar concept** production ready and deployed at well known names in the US and Europe.. ...which is splendid, by

Re: [backstage] Ping...

2011-06-03 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 3 Jun 2011, at 16:49, Brian Butterworth wrote: On 3 June 2011 16:21, Ant Miller ant.mil...@bbc.co.uk wrote: And to think people ask me why this list has gone quiet.. True. If the list was really being used I would be asking why the BBC News Android app doesn't work on Ice Cream

Re: [backstage] Enabling NVIDIA GPU acceleration on iPlayer videos...

2011-01-10 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 13:24, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk wrote: Indeed, 10.2 is much better and regular 1080p plays at 30fps thanks to the NVidia ION GPU acceleration. (I've also tried both the 10.1 beta and the final release as bundled in Chrome). Unfortunately the iPlayer

Re: [backstage] where is the BBC's SVG or scaleable vector graphics content?

2010-11-29 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:17, Ben Weiner b...@readingtype.org.uk wrote: Bearing in mind your opening remark, does licensing attributable to Flash cost a lot [of the licence-payers' money]? it's a cost/benefit thing, though. if, e.g., CBeebies games were reworked as SVG, then it'd cut off a

[backstage] Re: Backstage- End of an Era

2010-10-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
Hello folks, I wanted to throw in my tuppence worth in the form of a sort of retrospective from my point of view. Opinions my own, and any similarity to those of persons living or dead are entirely coincidental. The good: * Getting BBC people out into the public and meeting developers (both at

Re: [backstage] Re: Backstage- End of an Era

2010-10-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 16:21, Martin Poppy Hatfield mar...@moppy.co.uk wrote: Come on Mo,this list has very rarely acheived significant volume to even justify splitting it into 2 lists. It's nothing to do with volume -- everything to do with audience. There has been, over the past year,

Re: [backstage] Test

2010-10-21 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 21-Oct-2010, at 18:25, Ant Miller wrote: test syntax error. redo from start. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive:

Re: [backstage] RIP BBC Backstage

2010-10-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 13:43, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Well Jemima qualifies “end of bbc backstage” by saying “not being pushed off a cliff, but winding down”. That could easily be one developer saying this list is a bit quiet. I think really the news is about the Guardian

Re: [backstage] RIP BBC Backstage

2010-10-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 14:39, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Now I'm wondering if we listened to the same audio? About 2 minutes-worth starting at 22:30. I haven't listened to the audio yet :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content

2010-10-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:43, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I've had that fortune.  Some are good.  Some are okay.  Some are frankly appalling.  And they all have YouTube's logo on the top of the screen. And the appalling ones look very bad on YouTube because YouTube's logo is

Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content

2010-10-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 13:49, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: Wii isn't too difficult to figure out, though it's more complicated. I have actually had a little look at Wii iplayer myself to see how H.264 decoding is done on such a feeble device. There are lots of layers of encrypted

Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content

2010-10-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 14:20, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: No it doesn't.  But lets imagine that the UK TV system was being designed right now...  What do you think a popular request would be? I'm sure it would be, but that doesn't alter its feasibility, does it? - Sent via

Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content

2010-09-29 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:18, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Well BBC dev certs tend to give the holder huge amounts of access over our internal wikis, bug tracking systems and more!  So don't take it personally! I think the question Alex is gunning for is: What is the process

Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content

2010-09-29 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:46, Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: I suspect that there is currently no way for third parties to get access to iPlayer *content* without providing satisfactory guarantees that the content will only be used in certain specific ways.  I also suspect that *by

Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content

2010-09-29 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 14:23, Anthony McKale anthony.mck...@bbc.co.uk wrote: yah the feeds aren't https/firewall protected so i'm guessing no one should mind or at least it'll be a lesson to them if they didn't want folks accessing them If memory serves either the EMP SWF itself or the

Re: [backstage] 'Project Canvas' to be called 'YouView':

2010-09-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 13:49, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Um, it's not weview, it's YouView, (though no, I'm no fan of the name or the branding) and copyright for content of a website is usually vested in the website owner- I'd doubt you'd find much different on most commercial

Re: [backstage] 'Project Canvas' to be called 'YouView':

2010-09-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 15:45, Alex Cockell a...@acockell.eclipse.co.uk wrote: http://www.youview.com/terms-and-conditions/ Clauses 3.2.2, clause 5 (esp where the code is open source), clause 10. Basically it would appear that the jv are trying to close what was previously open. Also worth

Re: [backstage] 'Project Canvas' to be called 'YouView':

2010-09-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 15:45, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Ahem.  I think it's worth reading clause 1.1...  These are terms for using the website and for content provided on You View.  There's no claiming of copyright ownership over open source software. [snip] If you use

Re: [backstage] 'Project Canvas' to be called 'YouView':

2010-09-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 16:09, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: People have been saying that for years. My favourite are the terms that say you have to have a licence to link to their site. Amongst my pet hates are the sites which cheerfully note that you don't need a licence to

Re: [backstage] HDCP RIP

2010-09-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:38, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: On 14 September 2010 17:12, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: For all it's flaws I think there was a decent model at the heart of it. It did describe a model of media use that made sense, that described the

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:35, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote: Are you honestly saying that a DVB-T receiver bought today in Germany won't work in France or the UK? Yes, the US won't use DVB because it wasn't invented there and there are some slight

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:41, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: It should work.  But not everything will work.  The EPG probably won't, nor the Now and Next.  You're unlikely to get traditional teletext. And if you're German, you won't get the menus in German. As a German would

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:34, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote: I think that until we start seeing manufacturers piping up saying that they're going to start supporting Canvas in devices I can pop down to Tesco and buy it's too early to say that Canvas will

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:42, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:08, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: Given the specs haven't been finished yet, it's the preserve of precisely nobody _right now_. True, but I still would have

Re: [backstage] HDCP RIP

2010-09-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 15:31, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Seems like that very silly almost-content-protection system HDCP is no more... http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/hdcp-master-key-supposedly-released-unlocks-hdtv-copy-protect/ Fear not! I'm sure HDCP+ will be along

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:21, Nick Morrott knowledgejun...@gmail.com wrote: Accordingly, Project Canvas should publish all the application programming interfaces (“API”s) and use unencumbered open standards so as to enable anyone to provide “Project Canvas-ready” client solutions on any

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:33, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 13:21, Nick Morrott knowledgejun...@gmail.com wrote: Accordingly, Project Canvas should publish all the application programming interfaces (“API”s) and use unencumbered open standards so as to enable

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

2010-09-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:38, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney- To be honest, I'm unconvinced by Project Canvas. It's difficult to see how a UK only system is going to compete in this day and age. What does it do that a Google TV box can't do? Why would a manufacturer make a

[backstage] Canvas specs

2010-09-10 Thread Mo McRoberts
Nobody else has mentioned it here, so I might as well. In case you've not seen already, *some* of the Canvas specs have been released. They date back to May, so look like some of the ones which were circulated to DTG members back then which Robert Andrews from pc:UK failed to get disclosed, but

Re: [backstage] Canvas specs

2010-09-10 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 21:54, Alex Cockell a...@acockell.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Thanks.. but why are they being so bloody anal about not being able to patch this into the aux connector on a sound system? Analogue ports being excluded?  Bastards... ’cos you might record the audio, and that

Re: [backstage] Canvas specs

2010-09-10 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 00:58, Alex Cockell a...@acockell.eclipse.co.uk wrote: but what about plugging the box into my hifi to get better sound? Don't they think of that aspect? Or is that more the Beeb I remember from a few years ago? From what I know, and have been told from people in an

Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire

2010-09-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
Hi all, Weirdly, Google doesn't provide a way to link to its handy responses summary page for a form, so you can have the raw data instead (names email addresses removed). There weren't a massive number of responses to this, but it makes for some interesting reading as a finger-in-the-air

Re: [backstage] regional news - footage available online?

2010-09-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 15:25, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Hi Phil, Jim et al You be already aware of this but the BBC proposed a local video service last year. The proposal was rejected by the Trust following public consultation. One of the key concerns was about the

Re: [backstage] TV-Anytime files on Backstage and old Web API for TV/Radio data closing down

2010-08-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
Hi Andrew, On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:50, Andrew McParland andrew.mcparl...@rd.bbc.co.uk wrote: We are starting to lose the source of data we are using for the TV-Anytime files on Backstage: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ Is there any chance of the archive being kept around even

[backstage] IPv6 questionnaire

2010-08-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
Happy Friday 13th Everybody! This month, I'm running a short questionnaire (should only take a couple of minutes to complete) on IPv6 planning and adoption in the UK. Not the most exciting of topics, I realise, but *quite* important in some respects. Some of you will undoubtedly have seen this

Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire

2010-08-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:55, Matt Hammond matt.hamm...@rd.bbc.co.uk wrote: Hi Mo, I was looking at the question: What is your current level of IPv6 deployment?. Either you've added the No plans at all question, or I missed it first time around! Either way, I have no concerns about this now.

Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire

2010-08-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:11, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: We got contacted by a researcher on an eu project looking at this question.   I pointed them to core tech strategy types.  Not sure what response was. FOI time?  Would need carefully framing. I have been pondering that

Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire

2010-08-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 14:13, Gareth Davis gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I couldn't tell you what the official BBC position is on IPv6. But it has been an ongoing agenda item for some months at the Online Operations meetings, and we are well aware that we do have to adopt it sooner rather

Re: [backstage] Tried to submit a prototype but got an error 500

2010-07-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 13:13, blueBill Mobile bluebill-mob...@tidalwave.it wrote: Fabrizio Giudici bluebill-mob...@tidalwave.it blueBill Mobile with BBC integration http://weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici/archive/2010/07/16/about-android-semantic-web-and-bbc Ohhh, that's *you*? That

Re: [backstage] Tried to submit a prototype but got an error 500

2010-07-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 14:13, blueBill Mobile bluebill-mob...@tidalwave.it wrote: That prototype's generated quite a bit of buzz already :) Thanks :-) Out of curiosity, where's the buzz? In private emails or some public forum? Because I've always wondered whether blog posts (that don't

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 20-Jul-2010, at 18:26, Brian Butterworth wrote: More DRM... http://www.betanews.com/article/The-entertainment-Industry-debuts-yet-another-DRM-scheme-Ultraviolet/1279643971? The mind boggles. A lot of it sounds like Marlin (even down to the wide range of industry partners, including

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-19 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:38, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Mo - although we didn't publish your article on the blog I did circulate it to other colleagues in the BBC and I was pleased to see it published in the Guardian. We also linked to it from the blog when it was

Re: [backstage] BBC Archiver

2010-07-18 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 18-Jul-2010, at 12:05, Brian Butterworth wrote: Personally, whilst there are a few design decisions I might personally have done differently, I think the change is clearly one for the better. this. M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-16 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:07, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: In the case of Erik's post that you mention all we are actually doing is cross posting to it on the Internet blog. So the editor of the About The BBC blog has editorial responsibility for it because it was published

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-16 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 19:27, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: glossing over details which might not seem important but are What does or does not seem important is a matter of interpretation and is in the eye of the beholder... Not really... What does this mean for consumers

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:10, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I think it is a kind of slippery slope - one day you're making a personal archive of a TV programme, the next you are publishing it all on the internet for your friends - even this which might seem harmless might

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:15, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I don't write other people's posts on the blog I only write my own. Okay, just so we're clear (and as a minor educational exercise in behind-the-scenes-on-the-Internet-Blog) - a post from, say, Erik Huggers (like the

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:33, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: What I'm describing is not home taping - it's publishing - the internet makes everything different The point is -- the leap from 'having recorded some programmes' to 'publishing them on the Internet' isn't a small

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:10, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I think it is a kind of slippery slope - one day you're making a personal archive of a TV programme, the next you are publishing it all on the internet for your friends - even this which might seem harmless might

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-07-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 16:43, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Hi Mo, I am going out this evening so will be away from a computer. However I thought I would try and give you a quick response to some of your questions. 1. Because I didn't know it was happening until after

Re: [backstage] The web complaints form ate my complaint.

2010-07-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 13:39, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: No, since the line break ate the URI !! interestingly[0], GMail's web interface is smart enough to correct that. neat. M. [0] I use the term loosely. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] The web complaints form ate my complaint.

2010-07-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 14:21, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Handy tip that many people don't know about.  Wrap longish URLs in angular brackets E.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/01/freeview_hd_content_mana ement.html Most email clients won't do line breaks in

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust approves Project Canvas ...

2010-06-30 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:56, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Without the Canvas UX, you're not permitted to access any Canvas content. That is, you can run a completely separate system based on the Canvas specs, but unless you implement the Canvas UX, you can't access the

Re: [backstage] BBC Trust approves Project Canvas ...

2010-06-30 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 14:03, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: It is a legal obligation for the BBC (and other public service broadcasters) to make it's services available to the public and act in a non-discriminatory way to all third parties (in my view). ^ In *your*

Re: [backstage] Ofcom opens debate on net neutrality

2010-06-24 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:13, Ian Stirling backstage...@mauve.plus.com wrote: Proritising classes of traffic can be less bad than the alternatives. No, they're a bloody stupid way of doing it. By all means, offer it as an option for those users who don't know how to configure

Re: [backstage] Ofcom opens debate on net neutrality

2010-06-24 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:48, Ian Stirling backstage...@mauve.plus.com wrote: Regrettably, most people do not know how to setup QOS. yes, which is why I accounted for that right at the beginning of my e-mail... Are you seriously arguing that everyone should have a deep understanding of QOS,

Re: [backstage] Little iPlayer icon mashup

2010-06-18 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:41, Guy Strelitz guy.strel...@bbc.co.uk wrote: That’s very cool!  It starts to turn it into a data visualisation tool/toy... I think my IA mate was talking about actually linking through to the programme, on iPlayer or /programmes. Don’t suppose you still have the

Re: [backstage] Little iPlayer icon mashup

2010-06-17 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 17-Jun-2010, at 21:36, Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi, I read http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jun/16/stephen-fry-doctor-who So, I found a folder with 15,871 very small caches of the pictures used for each of the iPlayer programmes. Well, they were when I removed 90,000

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Question

2010-06-16 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:29, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote: ... and then everyone who uses an open source project could individually get their own tables. only for those people who *actively* use open source. doesn't help at all with open source stacks

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Question

2010-06-16 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:12, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote: 2) The company release their OS components, but the 'secret sauce' is a closed source app - again, they just include the include the tables in their product like a closed source system.

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 15:49, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: The BBC had a choice a) do nothing and run the risk of content not be available to licence fee payers b) do something which does achieve the desired effect and has a very small negative impact on a very small

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 15:57, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 15:49, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: The BBC had a choice a) do nothing and run the risk of content not be available to licence fee payers b) do something which does achieve

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 16:16, Adam Bradley a...@doublegeek.com wrote: If the desired effect was to limit what the average consumer can do with TV - i.e. only making one recording, and limiting how they can transfer this around their home - then it looks like it could achieve it. This ensures

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 16:16, Adam Bradley a...@doublegeek.com wrote: If the desired effect was to limit what the average consumer can do with TV - i.e. only making one recording, and limiting how they can transfer this around their home - then it looks like it could achieve it. This ensures

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 16:37, Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk wrote: From: Adam Bradley Similar questions to Andrew's above will be asked, of course. Why can't I record this TV show?, Unless I've missed something (and I'm sure someone will tell me if I have!) there's no proposals on

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 16:33, Paul Battley pbatt...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 June 2010 16:23, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: why can I not watch Freeview HD on my (slightly older) HD TV? This (HDCP) is one of the restrictions I understand the least. It's like screwing shut the cat-flap

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 16:48, Adam Bradley a...@doublegeek.com wrote: Point taken, but it would be nice if someone made it easy in future and this just makes it less likely. Perhaps Why can't I stream this on my network player upstairs would be a more likely question in the future. Oh, but

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Jun-2010, at 20:34, Adam Sampson wrote: While I'm sure the Huffman tables will be reverse-engineered soon enough, it'd be much better if I, as a license fee payer, could obtain a legal copy from the BBC for my personal use. UK copyright law is already very clear on exactly what I'm

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
systems manage well with the odd dash of proprietary stuff in there, like the drivers for some graphics cards. -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts Sent: 15 June 2010 16:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Jun-2010, at 21:13, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: Nor does it contradict anything I said either! through omission, no. that’s hardly a ringing endorsement, is it? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Jun-2010, at 20:58, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: With respect to you Mo presumably this person who wrote this comment on the Media Guardian story doesn't understand it either: those caveats, which make quite a significant difference: nwhitfield 14 Jun 2010, 7:04PM My understanding is

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts Sent: 15 June 2010 21:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management On 15-Jun-2010, at 21:13, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: Nor does it contradict anything I said either! through omission

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Jun-2010, at 21:38, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 15-Jun-2010, at 20:58, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: With respect to you Mo presumably this person who wrote this comment on the Media Guardian story doesn't understand it either: those caveats, which make quite a significant difference

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
right, I’m going to level with you all: I’m tired. very tired. I’m juggling a day-job building e-commerce websites with a hobby helping to build some very very cool things, and I’ve put an awful lot of time and effort into questioning, gaining understanding of and explaining this whole

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Jun-2010, at 22:41, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote: The BBC has made its position quite clear on the blog - not once but several times. We have been straight about it as you can see from these blog posts, not just recently but as far back as April last year (see Danielle Nagler's post in the

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-Jun-2010, at 17:31, Brian Butterworth wrote: #FAIL http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-freeview-allowed-to-use-drm-to-curtail-online-piracy/ Not much of a shock really. Or much use for the stated purpose. +2 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe,

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-06-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-Jun-2010, at 18:14, Alex Cockell wrote: So i'll have to buy box after box to watch content? doubtful. those which have been sold for FVHD already will have in-built support for the mechanism (it's specced by the ETSI DVB standards), but will likely need an update to get the decoding

Re: [backstage] Developer: Parsing AOD xml, and which PID is permanent?

2010-06-09 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:56, Steve Clarke mailinglis...@trumpton.org.uk wrote: Thanks Mo Paul, I've done a bit of playing with the BBC website, and, indeed, the b007k1sk link works in http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007k1sk, which tells you of all the previous broadcasts, and

Re: [backstage] Developer: Parsing AOD xml, and which PID is permanent?

2010-06-09 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:36, Steve Clarke mailinglis...@trumpton.org.uk wrote: Again, Mo and Paul, thanks for a lightning response.  I didn't see anything about http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006sqhl.rdf when I was searching, and now you've found it for me, it will do exactly what I want.

Re: [backstage] Developer: Parsing AOD xml, and which PID is permanent?

2010-06-09 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:59, Yves Raimond yves.raim...@gmail.com wrote: The pid feeds in XML, JSON and YAML are likely to change shape some time soon, which is the reason we didn't advertise them more widely, and didn't put rel=alternate links to them yet. The RDF feeds mentioned above will

Re: [backstage] Does the BBC ever respond to web site feedback?

2010-06-04 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Friday, June 4, 2010, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: The short form of the headlines are destined for Ceefax - where 0x23 is £ and 0x5F is #... /me idly wonders if any of the common character set conversion libraries support MODE7's character set… - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] Re: [backstage] Re: [backstage] R e: [backstage] Re: [backstage] Re: get_iplayer 2.77 release (was Re: [backstage] get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC¹s lack of support f or open

2010-05-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 28-May-2010, at 19:13, Anthony McKale wrote: Have you tried these? They use the offical bbc emp (embedded media player) which is a offical verified swf in an iframe configured to play the video, Of course I haven't spoken to Duncan for a while, but I think it still works Similarly…

[backstage] Re: get_iplayer 2.77 release (was Re: [back stage] get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC ’s lack of support for open source)

2010-05-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 26-May-2010, at 15:27, David Woodhouse wrote: I can give accounts on git.infradead.org if you want to publish a git tree there with your changes, or you can just mail patches to the list (or to me in private if you'd like them to be applied anonymously for some reason). JOOI, how much

Re: [backstage] Re: Looking for hotshot video develeopers to work at the BBC (was RE: [backstage] Fancy joining BBC RD?)

2010-05-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-May-2010, at 11:38, Gavin Johnson wrote: On 13/05/2010 20:33, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: (sadly, even this aside, I’m not applying thanks to being thoroughly in the wrong part of the UK… so this really is just flinging from the peanut-gallery) BBC is pretty London

Re: Looking for hotshot video develeopers to work at the BBC (was RE: [backstage] Fancy joining BBC RD?)

2010-05-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-May-2010, at 13:34, Brendan Quinn wrote: The Ingex jobs look splendid (continued insistence on using CVS for Ingex and libMXF notwithstanding... :) Heh -- well hopefully one of the first jobs of these two developers will be moving the codebase to a more modern version control

Re: Looking for hotshot video develeopers to work at the BBC (was RE: [backstage] Fancy joining BBC RD?)

2010-05-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-May-2010, at 14:21, Kieran Kunhya wrote: I’ve been slowly rewriting the build logic to be auto{conf,make}+libtool-driven (I’m targeting an expanded set of platforms — OpenSolaris, Mac OS X and Linux — so autoconf helps an awful lot). There was shock amongst other x264 developers

Re: Looking for hotshot video develeopers to work at the BBC (was RE: [backstage] Fancy joining BBC RD?)

2010-05-13 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 13-May-2010, at 19:19, Brendan Quinn wrote: Ian wrote: Interested in what we do in RD? The following roles within RD are currently being advertised at: www.bbc.co.uk/jobs Senior Software Engineer Ingex Solutions (ref. 304587) Software Engineer Ingex Solutions (ref. 304588)

Re: [backstage] Election Night

2010-05-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 6-May-2010, at 22:05, Sam Mbale wrote: BBC Television has it all covered with traditional media, where are the Internets? http://twitter.com/search?q=ge2010 Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer

2010-04-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Apr-2010, at 12:54, Brian Butterworth wrote: I thought a device had to have a reasonable UK market share before the BBC supported it? I’m not convinced that “rule” is applied remotely consistently, in either direction. M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer

2010-04-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Apr-2010, at 13:00, Ian Stirling wrote: Personally, I would argue strongly against this on competition grounds. That makes no sense. How is *extending* the user-agent whitelist bad for competition? The BBC should not be in the business of promoting any one vendor who choses not to

Re: [backstage] TODAY: Digital Economy Bill Flashmob, 5pm [Manchester]

2010-04-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 6-Apr-2010, at 19:15, Fearghas McKay wrote: On 6 Apr 2010, at 19:07, Mo McRoberts wrote: unlike Sion Simon who is talking about a fantasy world, in his own words... utter and total waffle. Tom Watson’s intervention sailed _right_ over his head. and then Pete Wishart, glossing

Re: [backstage] TODAY: Digital Economy Bill Flashmob, 5pm [Manchester]

2010-04-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 6-Apr-2010, at 22:10, Christopher Woods wrote: I'm hoping they'll do the right thing and kill the bill. Nope - just voted to send it to the committee stage tomorrow. The eyes have it, the eyes have it. RT @rhodri: And that was that, folks. The ayes have it. Chuckling in the chamber.

Re: [backstage] TODAY: Digital Economy Bill Flashmob, 5pm [Manchester]

2010-04-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 6-Apr-2010, at 22:13, Alex Cockell wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 22:00 +0100, Fearghas McKay wrote: Nope - just voted to send it to the committee stage tomorrow. Umm - does that mean we've lost? I *think* so. not really sure. That all we can look forward to is paying through the nose

Re: [backstage] TODAY: Digital Economy Bill Flashmob, 5pm [Manchester]

2010-04-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 6-Apr-2010, at 22:32, Phil Lewis wrote: According to this (below) it would appear that we haven't lost yet. But then again, maybe I'm misunderstanding the due process in parliament. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8605648.stm Controversial elements of the Digital Economy Bill

Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !

2010-04-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
The Ofcom consultation on this closes at 5pm tomorrow - make sure you make your views known! http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/content_mngt/ Some of you may enjoy my write-up in the Guardian (who kindly agreed to publish it as a guest post):

Re: [backstage] Why are iPlayer SD programmes encoded at funky resolutions?

2010-03-29 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 29-Mar-2010, at 01:19, Christopher Woods wrote: I've noticed for a while that the HQ iPlayer stuff (not the HD) is encoded at 832x468. (recent example: Australian F1, or pretty much every single high quality iPlayer video you look at). No complaints about the actual PQ, just really

Re: [backstage] Podcasts feeds not working in Rythmbox

2010-03-24 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 24-Mar-2010, at 18:37, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: It's not listing any new epsiodes for BBC feeds. All my BBC subscriptions get a red circle with a white bar when I update all feeds and a Error in podcast feed dialogue when I update an single feed. Cached error condition, perhaps? I

Re: [backstage] Fwd: [IP] C-Span Puts Full Archives on the Web

2010-03-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:49, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: I understand that the BBC trash the output from the News channel after 28 days.  Shame, really. My sources suggest that it exists within the BBC in at least one (internally-accessible) place (probably more). M. -

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