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As the books "Buddhist Warfare" and "Zen at War" show, warfare and Buddhism are
not as distant from each other as people tend to think.
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eligious matters. In other words, a Baha'i
totalitarian state is impossible.
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Dear Susan,
Sorry to correct you but only my mother, not my father who was 'Aryan'. But
he suffered in other ways.
Your point of course is well taken and I thank you for it.
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Stephen:
Actually the stories I've read of Baha'i Administration in action
rivals North Korea, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and other such place
7;i Faith "rivals" these indeed! If such ignorance wasn't so tragic,
it would be funny.
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y, such that people can't be a
PoMoist while being anything else,
while believe in known fact, or even while being a PoMoist.
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If you are intyerested in a detailed critique of postmodernism in regards to
the Faith, see my "Postmodernism and the Baha'i Writings" in "Lights of Irfan",
Vol. 9, 2008" or at http://www.bahaiphilosophystudies.com/articles/?p=24
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confusion and sheer cowardice that sometimes masks itself as
moderation.
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In the US political discourse
is dominated by the extreme voices. It least under proportional representation
there is the (I would say likely) possibility the parties could fracture and
reasonable voices in the center could come together and ignore their respective
fringes.
On Sun, Nov 25, 2
a Party could be an actual party.
The Democrats might became a more unashamedly pro-labor/working class party,
The Green Party or an "Occupy" party would be viable. On either side of the
spectrum, the fringes could be marginalized and a coalition between more
reasonable voices could be fo
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This true only if there is no minimum percentage threshold a party must attain
to get representation. Germany, Sweden, Norway, for example, have a 4 or 5%
threshold.
The biggest argument against proportional representation is the "wag the dog"
scenario, in which par
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Dear Friends,
Here is the Table of Contents for the new journal "Studies in Baha'i
Philosophy," VOL. 1, 2012
Editorial Introduction
Comparative Philosophy:
1) Bloch's Philosophy of Hope and the Baha'i Writings by Ian Kluge
2) M
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Dear Friends,
I would like to draw your attention to the following journal edited by Dr.
Mikhail Sergeev, whom some of you might know. He has been a presenter at ABS
conferences. The journal is called "Studies in Baha'i Philosophy." Dr. Sergeev
is an Adjunct Prof
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However, there are a lot of parallels between Whitehead and Bahai ontology. See
my article "Process Philosophy and the Bahai Writings" in Lights of Irfan Vol
5.
This article got me an invitation to the Center for Process Studies in
Calremont and a day with John Cobb
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> I would take what the American Psychological Association or American
P
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Daer Susan,
You are quite right.
The only people I know who have changed their orientation are Christian.
Actually, there' s problem with the vagueness of the term 'orientation.' Are
we talking about outward behaviors or are we talking about inner SSA i.e
same sex
newspaper a little while
ago on this issue, and it mentioned the American Psychological Association's
position on this. They said there is little evidence that efforts to overcome
homosexuality work, and that people often become suicidal who try.
I remember bringing this subject up here
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Alfred Adler, one of the three great founding figures of modern psychology,
used to tell insomniacs to think of and imagine 5 good things they could do for
others the next day. Apparently it was very effective in inducing sleep!
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to prevent that from happening on crucial
issues.
He is a Conservative - but remember that Canadian politics are 'left-shifted'
vis-a-vis American politics. Most Canadian Conservatives would fit comfortably
into the Democratic party and only a very few feel at home among Republicans.
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Does anyone have Jonah Winters e-mail address or know how to get in touch
with him?
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I tend to agree with Susan that the first function of these proofs (e.g.
Kurt Goedel's resuscitation of the ontological argument) is to show that
faith is not irrational as maintained by the new atheists, i.e. that reason
and faith are not necessarily in a state of conflict.
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ofs. I also get into these in "The New Atheism - a Philosophical
Perspective" given at ABS and scheduled for a public lecture by the
University of Northern British Columbia this Thursday.
I can send you copies if you give me you e-mail address.
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sm in which God seems disconnected from His
creation and often so distantly transcendent as to be remote and beyond
interest for human beings. In panentheism, God is both present throughout
all creation, and still personal and transcendent. Later in this paper we
shall demonstrate the effect panent
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words of Richard Wolin, "the seductions of unreason."
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"Keep in mind that this is a list dedicated to Baha'i scholarship.
There are other lists which are less academic in orientation."
I'm confused about this note. For whom was it intended?
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d feminist thinkers, and
in terms of 'rights' is a good example of how 'technical' philosophy makes
its way out of texts and onto the streets.
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wn only for his "Nichomachean Ethics" and
"Politics" - and not the metaphysics analysis which Abdu'l-Baha uses.
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Dear Mazda,
Elsewhere in SAQ, Abdul-Baha states explicitly that essence does not
change. In fact, this is the basis of his argument against reincarnation.
Speaking of the impossibility of reincarnation, he says, still change of
nature is impossible through renewal and return . . . The essenc
Dear Mazda,
RE: "avoiding the complexities of the subject, reframing it to suit the
presuppositions of his audience, and advancing it in a very meaningful way."
As for reaching western audiences, as I said before, this would have been a
mistake since Aristotle and the metaphysics of the en
Dear Mazda,
In SAQ Abdu'l-Baha is both Platonic and Aristotelian i.e. Plotinian, which
is supported by his espousal of emanation a la Plotinus. Recall that
Plotinus tried to reconcile Plato and Aristotle.
I really think that you speculate far too much about Abdu'l-Baha's motives
in using
Dear Mazda,
You write,
" It is static if it implicitly advocates a world of unchanging Platonic
forms. Incidentally, the Bab was critical of Ibn Arabi's concept of A'yan
Thabita (which proposes the preexistence of the forms in the divine
Essence). He insists that the idea that there is an interm
e Athenian
tradition in philosophy.
This is especially true vis-à-vis the ontological reality of categories and
species. SAQ is strongly anti-nominalist.
BTW, people should be aware that not all neo-thomists or neo-scholastics are
Catholics.
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sential reality"
more carefully since the concept of an essence with its potentials
actualized over time is not necessarily static.
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Ian Kluge
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long to lay down my life in the path to Thee! I desire to shed my blood for
Thee, and to make the supreme sacrifice.
* `Abdu'l-Bahá, Paris Talks 51
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If anyone is interested I will be pleased to send a copy of my paper
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in May 2007.
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Dear Gilberto,
I don't know. Sen sent the URL of his blog for us to read in the context of
our discussion of deconstruction and the like.
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t they be social laws? Any laws passed by human beings are, in my
mind, social laws. They may contradict nature - but human law does not
always take guidance from nature.
All man-made systems decay and require renewal.
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mething different from rational philosophical analysis
since it is based on personal needs, attitudes etc and not on rational
considerations. After all, just because a person expresses a doubt does not
necessarily mean the doubt is rationally justified.
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The information
t know what
your motives are in all this, but they cant be good when you resort to
this kind of deceptive debating tactics."
These are merely rants and ad hominems and speculations about my motives. I
don't think they are relevant to this discussion.
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Ian Kluge
ce' deals with the reality of accidental and essential
attributes (also dealt with in the Writings). 'Every human being has a
mother' deals with the whole issue of historical truth.
Each one of these statements points to - or away from - particular ways of
analysing reality.
You wri
sight, intuition, inspiration, i.e. through
transrational means. With proper guidance from the Writings, these can also
be sources of knowledge.
The Writings also provide guidance for philosophical thinking, e.g. the
proofs of God's existence, the rejection of materialism, pantheism,
reincarna
what you don't like is careful/rigorous
philosophical analysis of statements, and the philosophical approach to
studying the Writings. De gustibus non est disputandum.
As for philosophical reasoning being "unacceptable", I can only say that 27
years of teaching high school classes on
ll you learn a proof why it is so.
The truth remains the same, the presentation and unpacking differs.
As Abdu'l-Baha says, "In like manner truth is one, although its
manifestations may be very different." Paris Talks 128. It's like in math:
the same idea may be expressed by differ
ng.
(c) Some truths are foundational (not subject to further analysis);
universal (true for all observers at all times); objective (observer
independent) e.g. the existence of God and Manifestations, the reality of
creation (SAQ 278).
(d) the analysis of reality as a process using some of the
gs, their nature is not determined or conditioned by our views or
standpoints but by themselves. IOW, the truth about them is not dependent on
the position of the subject. But such dependence is exactly what relativism
claims - which is exactly why the Writings aren't relativistic. As my paper
a
"Not only is there no such ground that we can find: if it were found, we are
not the absolute beings to go stand on it. The search for absolute truths is
doomed both by the lack of a more absolute standard by which we could
recognise an absolute truth, and by our own conditionality as knowers."
lling to believe that Feyerabend wasn't a moron and I don't have
a burning need to disprove his ideas, I'm willing to give him the
benefit of the doubt and read him charitably."
I'm not sure you could be judging for yourself if you haven't read "Against
Metho
we take Derrida on his own
principles, we can't even know what he wrote - nor can he.
But I don't agree with Derrida - otherwise I would be a deconstructionist. I
think we can know what Derrida is saying and can also know that much of it
is nonsense.
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Ian Kluge
The i
tation of God for this
age, and the surviving dispensations are less than fully adequate vehicles
for meeting the needs of our time and the further evolution of humankind.
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t because we can build on these simple,
absolute truths.
A willingness to accept a wide latitude of ideas, behaviors etc in life do
not make an idea or person relativist. Nor need one be a relativist to do
so.
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ow can you say this? What
neutral Archimedean standpoint allows you to judge what is 'true' in a
culture or not?
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ir unique guiding star for their life, their behavior,
etc. But the philosophy of Thelema does not necessarily imply
"everything goes" because actions which go against True Will would
still be viewed as unacceptable. Relativism without moral anarchy. I'm
not making any of the assumpt
x27;t mean it but rather to set
apart a statement of motto or guidance from the rest of the sentence.
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real truth and the
unreal subjective inner truth are not the same - which in any relativist
interpretation they must be. This is emphasised by the exhortation to "dwell
within the shadow of the tree of knowledge" i.e. the true, objective
knowledge revealed by the Manifestation with Whose teach
Dear Gilberto,
RE Descarte's demon and the cogito, you write,
"No, I haven't forgotten about cogito ergo sum and all that. I'm
willing to concede that is a fairly persuasive argument. And so,
firstly, when I think of skepticism, I would mainly have in mind
opinions about the outside world. But se
truth is context and field dependent, we have no neutral,
Archimedean standpoint to judge whether or not any view is actually true.
If they are all true (in their field and context) then indeed, 'everything
goes."
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ot;Struggle, discipline and willpower" are personal attributes that can be
possessed by both the good and the evil. However, these personal qualities
do not support any judgment about the truth-content or moral value of their
beliefs. Hitler's elite Waffen SS possessed "struggle, dis
attitude. As I said
before, otherwise, one could create profound spiritual statements by
scrambling all the words in the dictionary, and randomly stringing them
together again: "purple name stomp Vishnu, Tylenol, post-it."
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claims, then
inevitably, "everything goes."
If you deny that "everything goes" how, from what absolute standpoint can
you reject some viewpoints and accept others? After all, any viewpoint can
be established from some "specific individual's position."
Best wishes,
Ian
ds and multiple meanings have been discussed throughout the
long history of literary criticism and philosophy centuries before Derrida &
Co.
Deconstruction's claim is that every text undermines and/or refutes its own
ostensible meaning - and therefore does not necessarily mean what it see
ha'is claim
precedence for Baha'u'llah's revelation since he -and no one else - is God's
Manifestation for this age.
Could you give some examples of what you consider "fundamentalist type
statements in the Writings"? How are you defining 'fundamentalist&#x
Dear Mazda,
You write,
" But, don't you think that statements such as the following do indeed imply
that meaning cannot be "fixed"?
"Know assuredly that just as thou firmly believest that the Word of
God, exalted be His glory, endureth for ever, thou must, likewise, believe
with undoubti
ation" you refer to doesn't (IMO) refer to differences per se but
to clashes and conflicts which we are to avoid.
Those who hold an opinion may well think it is true - but that doesn't mean
it actually is. Unqualified relativism, of course, must hold all opinions as
equally valid,
e for Baha'u'llah's revelation since he -and no one else - is God's
Manifestation for this age.
Could you give some examples of what you consider "fundamentalist type
statements in the Writings"? How are you defining 'fundamentalist'?
Best wishes,
Ian Kl
hard sciences being the high-status
paradigm within which much of western european theology was shaped. I
would like to think that relativism and subjectivism, as common
themes in theology and philosophy, may make a harmony between the two
disciplines possible"
The conditionality of knowledge is
u had read any deconstructionist books you would know these are not
straw man arguments but simple application of the principles explicitly
stated and championed by the deconstructionists themselves. Derrida showed
them at work most plainly in his defence of his Belgian Nazi friend De Man's
anti
a was clearly not thinking about what happens to his
philosophy when he went into the world.
Scepticism and relativism (see my "Relativism and the Baha'i Writings") are
so problematic that they have never gained a foothold in philosophy despite
periodic resurgences - after whic
sensible - but certainly not
revolutionary and worth paying attention to given how little historical
proof he actually provides. Only if we read it in the extreme fashion - in
the constructionist sense of 'man' actually being constituted in a
quasi-ontological sense in the 19th C does i
est wishes,
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That problem reminds me of one my favorite movies: Ghost Dog. Some of
the funn
is applied to the Writings (or any other religious
text), we will soon re-invent the tower of Babel/babble. It would make
organized religion impossible.
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r to deconstructionism as
"intellectual" or "anti-intellectual"
Richard.
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deconstructionism is
anti-intellectual i.e. is opposed to the very idea of a quest for truth
since there is no truth, only a infinite number of viewpoints. It is an
extreme development of relativism.
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Hi Mark!
It's good to see you back.
Maybe we'll see each other at ABS in Toronto?
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Ian
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That you possessed
r death-threats from inside the Canadian Muslim community. (That,
of course, simply reinforces one of her major points about today's Islam and
tolerance.)
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Dear Susan,
So would I. But I have heard it repeated lots.
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actual decision is invalid, and consequently, there is no disobedience
involved. Disobeying an illegal order is not really disobedience.
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American for a more nuanced, i.e. less
politically correct view of this issue. Biology may be involved but it's not
all there is to this.
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there.
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Dearest friends,
I have a little favor to ask, and I'm only reluctant b
ial differences is as bad as sweeping aside
essential similarities.
You write:
>>The Russian Revolution was not just "any revolution" since its main
architect - Lenin - and party based themselves on Marx.<<
"As I said, Ian, we are not going to agree on this stuff.&
Dear Mark, -
I hit send instead of save. I'll send the rest when I'm done.
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Dear Mark,
You write:
At 12:41 PM 10/13/2005, you wrote:
>>Whether or not there is in your opinion such a 'thing' as a communist
state is not the point. The point is that both Yugoslavs did in fact live in
a communist state - as do North Koreans. Both suffer(ed) oppression based on
and justifi
27;re missing the point: the point is that when experts or
perceived experts talk about things in a certain way, their talk can in fact
legitimise something as real, for example with Bahai *f*aiths.
They did it in places more important than refereed journals - they did so in
courtrooms and helped
differences among people. From this it follows that
'corporatocracy' alone cannot explain these differences.
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dividual
believer, December 26, 1935)
(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 549)
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an economically or socially unjust situation.
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wealth and
poverty should, however, be abolished...
-- Shoghi Effendi, Directives from the Guardian" 20
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ha’i
faiths (with a small ‘f’) we are in fact legitimising them and
putting them on par with the Baha’i Faith (large ‘F’).
You write:
“In any event,
repressed memory has no relation to social science. If anything, it illustrates
just how much of psychotherapy, by rejecting legitimate beh
e. "
If the vocabulary mis-represents things, it might be worth a thought.
You write:
"I can only repeat that I, as a social scientist, have no ability to
legitimize anything. Legitimacy, like prestige, is a social construction. It
cannot be presented. It can only be attributed."
Th
eable. "
If the vocabulary mis-represents things, it might be worth a thought.
You write:
"I can only repeat that I, as a social scientist, have no ability to
legitimize anything. Legitimacy, like prestige, is a social construction. It
cannot be presented. It can only be attribute
legitimize anything.
IAN:
Nonsense. Researchers, thinkers, etc. can legitimise things just by talking
about them. Take 'recovered memory syndrome' for example, which became
legitimised to the point of sending people to jail. (Fortunately some other
academics put an end to this nonsense
"IMO, you are responding to the terminology as *you*, not as I, would use
it. When I say there are many Baha'i faiths (small "f"), it is precisely the
"many understandings/versions of it" that I have in mind."
Yes, I have always understood that - but nonetheless I
Writings
embody the perfect model of the Baha'i Faith and (ultimately) the Universal
House of Justice ensures that all local and personal versions harmonise with
that perfect model. Calling these local and individual versions Baha'i
faiths (with a small 'f') simply confuses the is
repeat the split between revolutionaries and
reformers.
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Hi Sandy,
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devastated in Jackson, Mississippi.
[snip]
Thank you Mark; Kirsti and I were concerned for her and her son. We recall
our wonderful conversation at ABS.
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Ian Kluge
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we see yet again, a qualified relativism at work: on one
hand, our understanding of the absolute, eternal 'core' expands through
succeeding dispensations, while on the other, the particular historical
adaptations proclaim their relative, temporary, truths and then pass away
into irrelevanc
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