On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:00:47PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On 25-Jul-2002 Marc Wilson wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:00:35AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
further reading reports that Sun's marketing group has declared
GNOME/Sawfish
the only truly supported Linux desktop
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:18:24PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:00:47PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On 25-Jul-2002 Marc Wilson wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:00:35AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
further reading reports that Sun's marketing group has
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 12:23:53PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
As I see it the best we can manage would look like this.
process deleted
Didn't you just describe bbappconf/bblaunch? :)
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menu file to a generic name that'd appear in
~/.blackboxrc, so that I didn't have to edit the rc file in real-time.
Of course, you could always use sed and do exactly that, if you felt the
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:52:30AM +0200, Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote:
But since neither of them (Shaleh and Wilson) seemed very
thrilled about that one, I just came up with a another
suggestion...
Don't include me in that... I support the idea of changing it at compile
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* of the menus via the taskbar.
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Mod4Mask, which is the Windows key on your average keyboard.
Shaleh, is there some reason this can't be added to configure as a
changeable option at build time? It gets asked a LOT.
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, and then forget
to turn it off later.
I shouldn't have to do the idiot-level thinking. That's what the computer
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 05:49:53PM +0200, Sam Halliday wrote:
has anyone else noticed that aterm doesn't seem to work so good with blackbox :(
Since when? Perhaps if you describe what you think doesn't work?
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Well, since the correct terminal to use for aterm is either 'xterm' or
'rxvt' (depending), that might very well be your problem.
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at the
moment. I control what wm script gets launched by an environment variable
at the top of ~/.xsession.
This lets you customize things easily.
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pop the menu on, it has the effect of
switching focus.
Try it... might work for you. :)
[exec] (focus) {xmessage focus -timeout 1 -buttons '' -nearmouse
-xrm '*Translations: #override BtnDown: exit(0)' -xrm
'*message.borderWidth: 0'}
(all one line, of course)
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reaction.
I dunno... I *always* have GAIM running and I've never had it crash the
box. OTOH I've not tried an alpha since alpha4 so maybe it's something
new.
What is *guaranteed* to crash things here is lopster.
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the focused one... it'll crash the window manager or lock the box up or do
any number of other interesting things not related to proper functioning.
Does it on my box, does it on his box, does it on all boxen. :(
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has to
actually go out and figure out what style file you're using, this will be a
problem.
With some people using blackbox, and some using openbox, and others using
gods only know what, this might be useful.
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diff -urN bbpager-0.3.0/Baseresource.cc bbpager-0.3.0
want to set something up that, depending on the window class,
altered what blackbox thought the titlebar color resource should be set to?
I know sawfish plays the game in a similar way to that.
But I'm no blackbox hacker. :)
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instances of Mod1Mask in Window.cc to Mod4Mask... I know
it works.
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or
KDE?
Myself, I don't want those, hence I run blackbox.
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done.
Doesn't that special-case titlebar behavior? Clicking a titlebar is
supposed to raise a window.
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for changing workspaces are being executed
properly on both heads. I'm using bbkeys 0.8.4 and black box 0.62.1
on XFree 86 4.1.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. :)
You need to run a copy of bbkeys on each head. They can share the same
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... no matter what you throw at it, it just
keeps chugging along.
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*were*
using emacs as an editor, the last thing I'd want to be doing is using it
for my mail.
Emacs is so against the normal *nix philosophy of specific tools for
specific ends...
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On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:30:32AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
I am *NOT* talking about removing the workspace from the Workspaces menu. We
are planning on removing the current workspace from the send to menu in the
Window menu on the window itself.
What's the point of that?
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issue? That's all it sounds
like.
So why bother? It sounds like the empty menu thing a while back.
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time to use something other than
XFMail. ^_^
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On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 05:31:14PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
Looks like the am I on the screen detection is a little off.
How is the mouse supposed to get off the screen in the first place?
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save its own
size, and doesn't accept an argument to SET its size.
Perhaps there'd be some way to manipulate the window after the fact? Like
making the application think the mouse was resizing it?
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abandoned by its author, I doubt there's going to be any fix for it.
You can get around it by:
-s, -shape
Don't display groundplate
-i -iconic
Start tool iconic
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his skateboard
with surf stickers or something.
I had thought it was going to disappear completely. That absolutely HORRID
user interface they came up with deserves to be buried somewhere for all
time. ^_^
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:01:49PM -0500, Kit O'Connell wrote:
Is there a way for each workspace to have its own background image?
Nope.
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blackbox, it re-writes .blackboxrc, and your changes
go away. Instead, rt-click on the toolbar and choose Edit Current
Workspace Name from the menu. ^_^
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 01:05:05AM -0400, Gregory J. Barlow wrote:
I have a complete archive of the mailing list since October 1998 should
you ever need it.
If you have it in mbox, I'd like to have it. :)
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development libraries.
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with your favorite text editor,
and I have an entry in mine for this purpose.
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, too... I'm working on that one. That, or a way to turn it off when
gqmpeg goes nuts. :)
Actually, there's a good question for shaleh... hey, is the config menu
exposed? Could something like bbkeys manipulate it?
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 09:50:24AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
Note 0.65.0 is a jump from the previous version 0.62.1. This is meant to
reflect that 0.65.0 is halfway to 0.70 and that this is not a simple point
release from 0.62.1.
Gonna upload it to unstable? ^_^
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to have gained a line that
isn't really there.
I didn't actually resize the window... all I did was grab it, and release
it. Emacs redrew it looking like that.
Blackbox 0.62.1 on XF410-15 (I haven't let -16 install yet).
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. That seems to have
come right out of left field.
Also, bbkeys at least has its own page. I don't think the collection on
thelinuxcommunity.net is kept very current any more. Who has control over
that site, anyway? vR? Someone else?
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On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 05:17:12PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
Mac OS X
Does the current CVS work under OS X? I haven't tried. I'm still running
61.1 there. :)
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better.
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hand side?
Apparently he's using one iteration or another of the custom_toolbar patch.
There are two.
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them as a group.
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to. ^_^
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 01:55:12PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
the toolbar weirdness was created...
Did you uncommit Brad's fix to the toolbar clock clipping issue? The fix
is worse than the problem itself. :)
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at the bottom of the title bar.
Somehow I don't think that's right. ^_^
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with how blackbox dealt
with Xinerama was gonna break something. Turned out it was something else.
Methinks I need to run CVS more on my own box. Am I the only person using
blackbox multiheaded any more?
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On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:35:23PM -0500, xOr wrote:
hope this makes sense :)
It makes sense... I still don't understand why snapping from outside the
workspace is a big deal. ^_^
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msg06094/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature
of
the standard cursors from the cursor font. Refer
to appendix B of the X protocol for the names
(except that the XC_ prefix is elided for this
option).
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that
once a minute anyway.
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be specify a padding value.
I can't see any way to determine a padding value that would always work,
given that the user can mess with the time format. It might be enough to
always suffix his time format with a space, I suppose.
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choice.
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and see what I can do with it.
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it.
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On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 07:47:54AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
umm, wow. texmacs owns.
Don't it, though. :)
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? Doesn't matter, does it? Order the title to
change, it should change.
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On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 05:41:14PM -0500, Eric Binet wrote:
The new CVS BB dumps a core if I put a [nop] in a menu?!?
Well, as my menu is full of [nop] for structuring, I guess I won't be
using CVS. :(
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didn't work for us. All I did was forward port a patch that we
already knew worked. How did you apply it? To what sources? Did you get
any rejects?
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On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 08:45:35AM +, Paul Mackinney wrote:
Kyle Donaldson declaimed:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Marc Wilson wrote:
First off, this really was the wrong place to ask about setting up
dual-head X, because it really has nothing to do with Blackbox.
Don't credit ME
? The idea of unaccelerated X has such appeal?
I admit I've never bothered researching it at all... never saw the need, or
even the point. :)
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is ALWAYS weird.
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mapping the window and if it's not on the right workspace, move it?
Think about what bblaunch does. (/me says this knowing shaleh hates
bblaunch...)
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where else to send this.
http://sf.net/projects/blackboxwm
I'm not on the list, so if you could cc any replies to me, I'd appreciate
it.
You should join the list. ^_^
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they're asked for.
Any Ideas ?
Sure. Create a directory in your $HOME, call it fonts, or what have you.
Place the pcf.gz file therein. Then go there and run 'mkfontdir'.
Finally, add that directory like this:
$ xset +fp ~/fonts xset fp rehash
You should have your font(s) now.
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to
use, and which makes mouse_wheel unnecessary...)
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diff -urN blackbox-0.62.1.orig/configure blackbox-0.62.1/configure
--- blackbox-0.62.1.orig/configure Fri Jan 25 02:50:25 2002
+++ blackbox-0.62.1/configure Sat Mar 2 20:11:11
On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 08:37:06PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On 03-Mar-2002 Marc Wilson wrote:
Ok, here's another one that shaleh says is never gonna make it into
blackbox...
actually, I am on the fence on this one. It may make it in ..
Heh... maybe I shouldn't have wasted
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Did anyone else besides me notice that the blackbox commentary on this site
is almost a word-for-word rip of the blackbox.alug.org site? Talk about
poor-to-zero research...
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, anyway. ^_^
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--- blackbox-0.62.1.orig/src/Window.cc Sat Jan 19 08:06:30 2002
+++ blackbox-0.62.1/src/Window.cc Wed Feb 27 21:59:42 2002
@@ -2547,6 +2547,12 @@
windowmenu-hide();
}
}
+ } else if ( be-button
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 08:23:42AM +0100, Roger Sondermann wrote:
is anyone able to fix also Ignacios taskbar-patches for 0.62.1?
I haven't tried myself... the whole idea is annoying. I used to use the
taskbar_menu patch... I'd like to have part of that back.
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the version in CVS at sourceforge.
committed.
Shaleh, is the version currently in CVS buildable? I couldn't get Brad's
patch to apply cleanly to Window.cc and I don't speak enough C++ to do it
by hand.
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 08:30:27PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:09:56AM +0100, Mark Weinem wrote:
my shots are here:
http://www.plagegeister.de/bbshots.html
I like the second one, but the copy of that theme that *I* have tries to
use lucida as the font
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Head on over to
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-02-06-010-20-RV-DT-SW
and check out the fluxbox review. While I suppose fluxbox is nice, he
really doesn't get it, does he?
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or perhaps add
to them. The problem with asking the userbase (us) for screenshots is that
most of us aren't using the shipped styles. :)
Or at least I'm not. I flip between opiate, operation, and sunOS as the
mood takes me.
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that...
just don't have the skill to code it. :)
Are there any other neat things in here to make it worth using over the
0.62.1 release?
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options that no other solution does, and it eludes me why someone would deny
others this possibility.
Because *we* don't use it that way and what you want would negatively
impact the way *we* use it. Why would *you* deny us the use of it in the
way we use it?
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knows what needs to be done to the wheel_mouse patch to apply
it to 0.62...)
If you install it, it should be auto-replaced by apt when shaleh uploads it
to unstable.
No guarantees, of course... it merely works for me.
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the idea, but I can
see why it wouldn't be included.
I wanted to not hear the screams before I force upgrade my Debian users.
grin
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scroll-lock dangerous, though? That
seems to be interpreted as an XOFF by things.
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pixmap deleting when the image control
class's destructor is called so once again there is no pixmap for use.
Summary -- sorry no pseudo transparency under Eterm with bsetroot.
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video modes and does it's thing and doesn't
seem to malfunction at all. I can move the mouse over to the other monitor
and work with no difficulties.
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it to work
properly in a multi-head configuration? When I applied the patch to
0.61.1, if I remember correctly keybindings only worked on localhost:0.0...
I'll have to fetch it and test. I'll let you know. :)
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is supposed to be about *content*, not about being
graphical. This one *communicates* the best of them all.
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 08:27:50AM -0500, Marco Fonseca wrote:
Marc Wilson wrote:
There's that moving windows between monitors again. Why would this be
necessary, or desirable? Start the app on the monitor you want it on in
the first place.
Is that *really* the only thing you find
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 04:56:15PM -0500, scott wrote:
Marc Wilson wrote:
Besides, I have an intense dislike for sites that use frames when they're
not necessary, like all the other choices do.
I don't mean to pick, but none of the other
sites use frames, they use tables.
Yes, my bad
clear on the fact that I in fact do NOT use it, and have no reason to.)
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 03:46:12PM -0800, Marius Nita wrote:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 01:16:14PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
And this is the stated, documented, and implemented reason for and behavior
of Xinerama in relation
permissions.
5) http://speed.seas.upenn.edu/~rarya/bb/index.html
Ditto.
6) http://furt.com/blackbox
Hm. I like it. Mozilla likes it. It's usable in lynx.
I vote for either #1 or #6.
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into it, rather than NOT
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to some.
Not to jab, but other than it being GTK based, why not use bbconf?
Well, not to jab, but why not use WindowMaker instead of blackbox? ^_^
There's always room for tools that might do things differently.
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be ditching it in favor of the
dockapps again. Gkrellm annoys me... I just can't say why. :)
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to not supporting transparency. So just use Esetroot.
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utilities, and came up with the attached to reset
whatever Esetroot does that the others do not (to get rid of the cookie
cutter effect).
Perhaps this can tell you what's actually going on.
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#include X11/Xutil.h
#include stdlib.h
int
main
bitmaps in general? We have bsetbg, which requires one of
display/Esetroot/xsri/xv, and it sounds like only Esetroot does things in
the right way.
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should adopt
wmsetbg. ^_^
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that it becomes an issue.
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