Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-25 Thread Armin K.
On 04/25/2014 04:13 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of getting the whole

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:09:26AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set:

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:09:26AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of getting the whole thing working). But your use of sysctl looks

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of getting the whole thing working). But your use of sysctl

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set: kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7 where the numbers are console_loglevel, default_message_loglevel,

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set: kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7 where the numbers are console_loglevel,

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server, I _really_ do not want to try to build there - by the same token, I

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server, I _really_ do not want to try to build

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 21/04/2014 20:49, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server,

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 03:28:01PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 21/04/2014 20:49, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : For convenience I also have scripts to mount and unmount virtual file systems and to clean up

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: There is also a deeper difference - jhalfs was originally a tool for builders. As an editor, my preference is to look at a new package version on a completed system [ normally, just a DESTDIR ], see what options I want to use [ e.g. omit static libs even in LFS, unless

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
BLFS Trac wrote: Comment (by ken@…): At the moment I'm still trying to absorb the systemd changes in LFS - my own scripts now build a working LFS with eudev and _current_ LFS bootscripts, and I'm fairly confident that the systemv-on-systemd build will work when I test it. But I'm

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: BLFS Trac wrote: Comment (by ken@…): At the moment I'm still trying to absorb the systemd changes in LFS - my own scripts now build a working LFS with eudev and _current_ LFS bootscripts, and I'm fairly confident that

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 20-04-2014 18:26, Ken Moffat escreveu: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: BLFS Trac wrote: My objective is to allow users that do not want to consider or even try systemd to continue to do what they are already doing. And you appear to be achieving that. I

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
(with a few packages from BLFS). D-Bus is not started by default in the System V setup, but the binaries are built and installed. There is one minor change in sysvinit when there are four lines that move files. If systemd is not installed, those are not needed. The scripts in the new 7.1

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
BLFS). D-Bus is not started by default in the System V setup, but the binaries are built and installed. Yeah, but for the current LFS-svn bootscripts (see my post on -chat from a few hours ago) the name/location of udevd and udevadm have changed. My impression is that you _have_

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
(with a few packages from BLFS). D-Bus is not started by default in the System V setup, but the binaries are built and installed. Yeah, but for the current LFS-svn bootscripts (see my post on -chat from a few hours ago) the name/location of udevd and udevadm have changed. That's right. You do need

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 06:00:51PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: However there is a method to their madness and LFSers should be able to pick it up relatively quickly. Don't get me started on what that

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 06:00:51PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: However there is a method to their madness and LFSers should be able to pick it up relatively quickly. Don't get me started

[blfs-dev] D-Bus testsuite requires pygobject

2014-02-18 Thread Armin K.
configure: Full test coverage (--enable-tests=yes) requires Python, dbus-python, pygobject checking for a Python interpreter with version = 2.6... python checking for python... /usr/bin/python checking for python version... 2.7 checking for python platform... linux2 checking for python script

Re: [blfs-dev] D-Bus testsuite requires pygobject

2014-02-18 Thread Armin K.
On 02/18/2014 05:48 PM, Armin K. wrote: configure: Full test coverage (--enable-tests=yes) requires Python, dbus-python, pygobject checking for a Python interpreter with version = 2.6... python checking for python... /usr/bin/python checking for python version... 2.7 checking for python

Re: [blfs-dev] D-Bus testsuite requires pygobject

2014-02-18 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 18-02-2014 14:01, Armin K. escreveu: On 02/18/2014 05:48 PM, Armin K. wrote: configure: Full test coverage (--enable-tests=yes) requires Python, dbus-python, pygobject checking for a Python interpreter with version = 2.6... python checking for python... /usr/bin/python checking for

[blfs-dev] VLC and D-Bus

2013-06-16 Thread Igor Živković
Hello, I'd like to move D-Bus from required to recommended dependency. Since I don't use D-Bus on my systems, is there any other package in the book which requires VLC compiled with D-Bus support? -- Igor Živković -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: [blfs-dev] VLC and D-Bus

2013-06-16 Thread Armin K.
On 06/16/2013 01:22 PM, Igor Živković wrote: Hello, I'd like to move D-Bus from required to recommended dependency. Since I don't use D-Bus on my systems, is there any other package in the book which requires VLC compiled with D-Bus support? Does it require any switches to disable

Re: [blfs-dev] VLC and D-Bus

2013-06-16 Thread Igor Živković
On 16.06.2013 13:30, Armin K. wrote: On 06/16/2013 01:22 PM, Igor Živković wrote: Hello, I'd like to move D-Bus from required to recommended dependency. Since I don't use D-Bus on my systems, is there any other package in the book which requires VLC compiled with D-Bus support? Does

Re: [blfs-dev] VLC and D-Bus

2013-06-16 Thread Armin K.
On 06/16/2013 01:32 PM, Igor Živković wrote: On 16.06.2013 13:30, Armin K. wrote: On 06/16/2013 01:22 PM, Igor Živković wrote: Hello, I'd like to move D-Bus from required to recommended dependency. Since I don't use D-Bus on my systems, is there any other package in the book which requires

Re: [blfs-dev] VLC and D-Bus

2013-06-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Igor Živković wrote: Hello, I'd like to move D-Bus from required to recommended dependency. Since I don't use D-Bus on my systems, is there any other package in the book which requires VLC compiled with D-Bus support? Just to comment, I'd like ot point out that some packages, e.g

Re: [blfs-dev] vlc and d-bus

2012-07-03 Thread Armin K.
On 07/03/2012 01:05 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: On 3.7.2012 0:43, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I just ran into a problem with vlc caused by d-bus. The latest version of d-bus does create /var/lib/dbus, but it does not populate it. vlc filed with: Hm, IIRC bootscript should run dbus

Re: [blfs-dev] vlc and d-bus

2012-07-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 07/03/2012 01:05 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: On 3.7.2012 0:43, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I just ran into a problem with vlc caused by d-bus. The latest version of d-bus does create /var/lib/dbus, but it does not populate it. vlc filed with: Hm, IIRC bootscript

[blfs-dev] vlc and d-bus

2012-07-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I just ran into a problem with vlc caused by d-bus. The latest version of d-bus does create /var/lib/dbus, but it does not populate it. vlc filed with: process 4644: D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read machine uuid: Failed to open /etc/machine-id: No such file

Re: [blfs-dev] vlc and d-bus

2012-07-02 Thread Armin K.
On 3.7.2012 0:43, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I just ran into a problem with vlc caused by d-bus. The latest version of d-bus does create /var/lib/dbus, but it does not populate it. vlc filed with: Hm, IIRC bootscript should run dbus-uuidgen --ensure before starting dbus-daemon. -- http

Re: [blfs-dev] vlc and d-bus

2012-07-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 3.7.2012 0:43, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I just ran into a problem with vlc caused by d-bus. The latest version of d-bus does create /var/lib/dbus, but it does not populate it. vlc filed with: Hm, IIRC bootscript should run dbus-uuidgen --ensure before starting dbus-daemon

Re: [blfs-dev] Boot order of D-Bus and netfs/network.

2012-03-24 Thread DJ Lucas
Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Ragnar Thomsen wrote: As mentioned in ticket #3103, D-bus starts at S20, while network starts at S20 and netfs at S28. Since D-Bus is installed on /usr, it should be started after the network/netfs scripts. AFAIK, d-bus is only needed for Xorg applications

Re: [blfs-dev] Boot order of D-Bus and netfs/network.

2012-03-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: While it was unpopular last time, or maybe just uninteresting, it's as good a time as any to suggest ditching the static list all together...let the dependency info in the scripts do what It's intended to do? Perhaps a little later. With the new tool chain packages we will be

[blfs-dev] Boot order of D-Bus and netfs/network.

2012-03-23 Thread Ragnar Thomsen
As mentioned in ticket #3103, D-bus starts at S20, while network starts at S20 and netfs at S28. Since D-Bus is installed on /usr, it should be started after the network/netfs scripts. Can D-Bus be moved to S30? Are there other bootscripts that need to be re-prioritized? -Ragnar

Re: [blfs-dev] Boot order of D-Bus and netfs/network.

2012-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: As mentioned in ticket #3103, D-bus starts at S20, while network starts at S20 and netfs at S28. Since D-Bus is installed on /usr, it should be started after the network/netfs scripts. AFAIK, d-bus is only needed for Xorg applications. I would think any time before

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 09:41:08PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 12:08:29PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: It probably would be reasonable to just replace any glib2 dependencies in the book with pkg-config. Sounds a good idea. My cable hardware upgrade went ok, so

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:39:09 + Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com wrote: The following packages have glib2 as an optional dependency : qt4, gtk-doc, pulseaudio. I have no experience of trying to build any of these in the absence of pkg-config. I assume it would be painful (needing to

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 10:25:37PM +, Andrew Benton wrote: On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:39:09 + Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com wrote: The following packages have glib2 as an optional dependency : qt4, gtk-doc, pulseaudio. I have no experience of trying to build any of these in

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 11:46:25PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 10:25:37PM +, Andrew Benton wrote: gtk-doc compiles fine without pkg-config but reading through the configure script it does use pkg-config to find things like gnome-doc-utils and glib-2.0. Andy

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 23:54:12 + Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com wrote: Thanks, but to be clear - are you saying gtk-doc won't use them without pkg-config ? I don't know. The way I look at it, configure worked without pkgconfig so we can't say required but it definitely wanted to use

[blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-07 Thread Pierre Labastie
As a test of the new jhalfs/BLFS tools, I have tried to compile 'accountservice' (the first package in the book). The tool generated the following build order: dbus libffi python2 pcre glib2 dbus-glib perl-xml-parser intltool pkgconfig polkit accountsservice. Knowing that libxml2 and expat were

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-07 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 07/03/2012 18:01, Pierre Labastie a écrit : See attached patch. Forgotten, sorry. Index: blfsbook/general/sysutils/dbus-bindings.xml === --- blfsbook.orig/general/sysutils/dbus-bindings.xml 2012-02-21 17:34:42.0 +0100

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 06:01:32PM +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: As a test of the new jhalfs/BLFS tools, I have tried to compile 'accountservice' (the first package in the book). The tool generated the following build order: dbus libffi python2 pcre glib2 dbus-glib perl-xml-parser intltool

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 06:37:42PM +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 07/03/2012 18:01, Pierre Labastie a écrit : See attached patch. Forgotten, sorry. Index: blfsbook/general/sysutils/dbus-bindings.xml === ---

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: The tool generated the following build order: dbus libffi python2 pcre glib2 dbus-glib perl-xml-parser intltool pkgconfig polkit accountsservice. Proposed solution: add pkg-config as a required dependency, and suppress glib2, since it is a dependency of pkg-config.

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-07 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:01:32 +0100 Pierre Labastie pierre.labas...@neuf.fr wrote: As a test of the new jhalfs/BLFS tools, I have tried to compile 'accountservice' (the first package in the book). The tool generated the following build order: dbus libffi python2 pcre glib2 dbus-glib

Re: [blfs-dev] pkg-config is a dependency D-Bus GLib bindings

2012-03-07 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 07/03/2012 19:34, Andrew Benton a écrit : On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:01:32 +0100 Pierre Labastiepierre.labas...@neuf.fr wrote: As a test of the new jhalfs/BLFS tools, I have tried to compile 'accountservice' (the first package in the book). The tool generated the following build order: dbus

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:10:04 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. The first LFS boot script, mountvirtfs, does: mkdir -p /run mount -n

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 00:46:48 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: This is getting complicated. I can build and install dbus-1.4.16.tar.gz without noticing any problems. In order to run the tests, I need: D-Bus GLib Bindings (update to 0.98) D-Bus Python Bindings (update

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 00:46:48 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: This is getting complicated. I can build and install dbus-1.4.16.tar.gz without noticing any problems. In order to run the tests, I need: D-Bus GLib Bindings (update to 0.98) D-Bus Python

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 07:10:04PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. Is that a theoretical problem, or is it actually broken on your system ? The dbus init.d

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 07:10:04PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. Is that a theoretical problem, or is it actually broken on your

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:27:29 + Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com wrote: Ah, I see, you build dbus but not the bootscripts. AFAIK, the bootscript has been required for a long time. I see no obvious reason to add dbus-launch to .xinitrc. I also see no reason to

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 06:03:42PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I suspect (but am not sure) that dbus is not very useful on a non-gui desktop or server. If that's the case, then launching via dbus-launch to .xinitrc makes sense. I've always thought that for *my* uses, dbus was a build-time

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 12/16/2011 6:03 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'm not an expert in how dbus is used, but if you do not use the bootscript and do use the dbus-launch, isn't that sufficient? My understanding with D-Bus is that you must launch the system deamon so that it will respond to user requests. The system

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:03:42 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not an expert in how dbus is used, but if you do not use the bootscript and do use the dbus-launch, isn't that sufficient? Yes, I think so. I'm going to delete the dbus bootscripts on my systems and just start it

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 06:03:42PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I suspect (but am not sure) that dbus is not very useful on a non-gui desktop or server. If that's the case, then launching via dbus-launch to .xinitrc makes sense. I've always thought that for *my* uses, dbus

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: On 15/12/11 16:28, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Wayne, In the D-BUS instructions, what does this mean? useradd -c D-BUS Message Daemon User -d /dev/null \ -u 18 -g messagebus -s /bin/false messagebus || [ $? == 9 ] Accidental update from a script? -- Bruce

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Andrew Benton
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:25:17 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Also, the construct is not explained. I think it should be removed. I agree it should be explained, then people can make an informed choice. I don't mind that it's different from the other pages where useradd is used.

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
pages where useradd is used. I still don't see the value: $ sudo useradd -c D-BUS Message Daemon User -d /dev/null -u 18 -g messagebus -s /bin/false messagebus || [ $? == 9 ] $ sudo useradd -c D-BUS Message Daemon User -d /dev/null -u 18 -g messagebus -s /bin/false messagebus || [ $? == 9

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:44:48PM +, Andrew Benton wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:25:17 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Also, the construct is not explained. I think it should be removed. I agree it should be explained, then people can make an informed choice. I

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
tar -xf dbus-1.4.16.tar.gz cd dbus-1.4.16 ./configure --enable-tests --enable-asserts Full test coverage (--enable-modular-tests=yes or --enable-tests=yes) requires dbus-glib - But the D-Bus GLib Bindings require D-Bus to be installed. The required sequence appears to be: Install D-Bus

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. The first LFS boot script, mountvirtfs, does: mkdir -p /run mount -n /run || failed=1 mkdir -p /run/{var,lock,shm} The /etc/sysconfig/rc.site is sourced

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread DJ Lucas
On 12/15/2011 07:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. The first LFS boot script, mountvirtfs, does: mkdir -p /run mount -n /run || failed=1 mkdir -p

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: On 12/15/2011 07:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: More on D_BUS. The install creates /var/run/dbus, but that will go away with a reboot. We need to figure out a way to create it upon boot. The first LFS boot script, mountvirtfs, does: mkdir -p /run mount -n /run || failed=1

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
/dbus/dbus-1.4.16.tar.gz tar -xf dbus-1.4.16.tar.gz cd dbus-1.4.16 ./configure --enable-tests --enable-asserts Full test coverage (--enable-modular-tests=yes or --enable-tests=yes) requires dbus-glib - But the D-Bus GLib Bindings require D-Bus to be installed. The required

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-15 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
that it's different from the other pages where useradd is used. I still don't see the value: $ sudo useradd -c D-BUS Message Daemon User -d /dev/null -u 18 -g messagebus -s /bin/false messagebus || [ $? == 9 ] $ sudo useradd -c D-BUS Message Daemon User -d /dev/null -u 18 -g messagebus

[blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Wayne, In the D-BUS instructions, what does this mean? useradd -c D-BUS Message Daemon User -d /dev/null \ -u 18 -g messagebus -s /bin/false messagebus || [ $? == 9 ] Accidental update from a script? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: [blfs-dev] D-BUS instructions

2011-12-14 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
On 15/12/11 16:28, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Wayne, In the D-BUS instructions, what does this mean? useradd -c D-BUS Message Daemon User -d /dev/null \ -u 18 -g messagebus -s /bin/false messagebus || [ $? == 9 ] Accidental update from a script? -- Bruce No, not accidental

What D-Bus version should we target?

2010-11-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, If our target for BLFS is LFS-6.7, what version of D-Bus should we put in the book? The BLFS book's version of D-Bus is way behind in version updates, but I know there is compatibility issues with the deprecation of HAL, etc. Does anyone (Dan, could you pitch in and help out

Re: What D-Bus version should we target?

2010-11-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Randy McMurchy ra...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Hi all, If our target for BLFS is LFS-6.7, what version of D-Bus should we put in the book? The BLFS book's version of D-Bus is way behind in version updates, but I know there is compatibility issues

Re: What D-Bus version should we target?

2010-11-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 11/09/10 20:01 CST: The tight coupling between D-Bus and HAL should be gone. HAL is in compatibility mode and should work with any recent D-Bus. A lot of apps have moved away from HAL but it'll still be needed in spots. I haven't looked closely at D-Bus

GNOME D-Bus services directory

2010-03-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I know this has been briefly discussed, but I think I remember someone not too long ago having an issue with a non-standard D-Bus services directory and having to use an /etc/dbus-1/session-local.conf file and it messing something up. I'm strictly going on something *I think* I remember

Re: Updated D-Bus and HAl

2010-03-13 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 02:06:45PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/12/10 13:02 CST: As a note, ps is now printing a uid instead of the name if the name is too long. Changing the names s/haldaemon/hald/ and s/messagebus/msgbus/ in /etc/passwd provides the

Updated D-Bus and HAl

2010-03-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I would like to update the book to version 1.2.20 of D-Bus and version 0.5.14 of HAL (D-Bus bindings to current versions as well. Has anyone had any problems with these versions, or know anything that keeps us from updating the packages? They build fine for me, but I'm not sure I use

Re: Updated D-Bus and HAl

2010-03-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, I would like to update the book to version 1.2.20 of D-Bus and version 0.5.14 of HAL (D-Bus bindings to current versions as well. Has anyone had any problems with these versions, or know anything that keeps us from updating the packages? They build fine for me

Re: Updated D-Bus and HAl

2010-03-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/12/10 13:02 CST: As a note, ps is now printing a uid instead of the name if the name is too long. Changing the names s/haldaemon/hald/ and s/messagebus/msgbus/ in /etc/passwd provides the user name. That has been standard behavior for years and years. I

Re: Updated D-Bus and HAl

2010-03-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/12/10 13:02 CST: As a note, ps is now printing a uid instead of the name if the name is too long. Changing the names s/haldaemon/hald/ and s/messagebus/msgbus/ in /etc/passwd provides the user name. That has been standard

D-Bus Bindings

2009-10-05 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Has anyone got any objections to split the D-Bus Bindings packages into their own individual pages? Reason, less clutter on an individual page. eggdbus is another D-Bus binding package. Regards, Wayne. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: D-Bus Bindings

2009-10-05 Thread Randy McMurchy
Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: Has anyone got any objections to split the D-Bus Bindings packages into their own individual pages? Reason, less clutter on an individual page. eggdbus is another D-Bus binding package. Well, since you are soliciting opinions, I'd prefer they all stay on one page, but I

D-Bus Glib bindings

2009-07-12 Thread Guy Dalziel
Under D-Bus we use the --libexec flag to put the files in /usr/lib/dbus-1.0. However, with the Glib bindings we don't do that even though it puts files in /usr/libexec. I think that we should use --libexecdir for the bindings, '--libexecdir=/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-glib' should be suitable

D-Bus

2008-09-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I ran into a problem with D-Bus today. I was running vmware and all of a sudden, it wouldn't start any more. vmplayer wouldn't work either. Running gdb indicated a segfault in dbus, so I stopped dbus and vmplayer started working. I'm running dbus-1.0.2 right now. Does anyone have any

Re: D-Bus/HAL + KDE?

2007-07-14 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/14/07, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I'm using HAL-0.5.9.1 and the most recent hal-info tarball using the book instructions. Seems to be fine. If you want, I can update the book. One thing I did was modify the configure script so that it will accept the most recent version

Re: D-Bus/HAL + KDE?

2007-07-12 Thread Dan Nicholson
for the D-Bus Qt3 bindings and putting it on anduin? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~dnicholson/downloads/dbus-qt3-0.62.tar.bz2 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~dnicholson/downloads/dbus-qt3.txt You can roll a snapshot yourself, but I don't think the ones on the freedesktop page are going to work

Re: D-Bus/HAL + KDE?

2007-07-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 07/12/07 08:11 CST: Thanks for your help, Jens. That's what happened when I tested them, too. Randy, how do you feel about using the snapshot I rolled a few months ago for the D-Bus Qt3 bindings and putting it on anduin? Sounds fine to me. I'm a few hours

Re: D-Bus/HAL + KDE?

2007-07-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/10/07, Jens Stroebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a question regarding dbus-hal-KDE interaction; I have the right impression when I think it's still nescessary to use the dbus-0.69 qt bindings if one wants the KDE desktop to show device icons when e.g. an USB stick is plugged in, right?

Re: D-Bus/HAL + KDE?

2007-07-10 Thread Randy McMurchy
in, right? I don't know anything about the dbus-0.69 qt bindings. In fact, I was doing the updates to packages that list HAL as a dependency (did the D-Bus dependencies yesterday) when you sent this message. For KDE (and K3b) I've included in the HAL dependency a note saying the Qt3 bindings

Re: D-Bus/HAL + KDE?

2007-07-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/10/07, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also put a note on both packages that this combination has not yet been tested by the BLFS team. I will be testing it shortly, but wanted to clarify the book first. A while back I checked what would build, and the tarball from the dbus

Re: D-Bus/HAL + KDE?

2007-07-10 Thread Jens Stroebel
Dan Nicholson wrote: [...snip...] Yes, they're still needed, we just haven't gotten that far yet. If you'd like to be the guinea pig, please see this post from a couple months ago when I was investigating this. [...] If you use KDE with the HAL backend, I'd appreciate if you

Re: D-Bus/HAL + KDE?

2007-07-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/10/07, Jens Stroebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can tell, the combination of dbus-1.0.2 dbus-qt3-0.62 dbus-glib-0.74 hal-0.5.9 qt-3.3.8 builds fine and works with regards to KDE being able to offer device icons for appearingUSB sticks/CDs Great. If you wouldn't

Re: D-Bus/HAL

2007-07-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
to post the hal diff a bit later, but it might not make a lot of sense until the dbus core + bindings gets worked out. Dan, I went back and reviewed our old thread about D-Bus/HAL and forgot that you had already created the D-Bus-1.0.2 page and modified bootscript. Would you care to update the D

Re: D-Bus/HAL

2007-07-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 07/09/07 14:34 CST: Yeah, I found my patch. I'll start massaging it into current form. I'll try to get that in in the next few days so things don't get too broken. The core vs. bindings dependencies could take some iterations. You can start making changes on

Re: D-Bus/HAL

2007-07-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/9/07, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went back and reviewed our old thread about D-Bus/HAL and forgot that you had already created the D-Bus-1.0.2 page and modified bootscript. Would you care to update the D-Bus page? The one you made (it is still available) looks good to me

Re: D-Bus/HAL

2007-07-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
section from d-bus and the mention of it on the hal page. This is because it will just be replaced with dependencies on dbus-glib and optional dbus-python for hal-device-manager, which I'll note. It just didn't seem worth it to keep the all that text in sync when it would go away after the rest

D-Bus Bindings

2007-07-08 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I want to put the D-Bus bindings in a separate package. I'm leaning to putting it in Chapter 8 - 'General Libraries' but they probably would be just as valid (functionally speaking) in Chapter 12 - Programming as they really are nothing but programming support stubs for various languages

Re: D-Bus Bindings

2007-07-08 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/8/07, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, since the BLFS use of them will be to support the building of other packages, I lean to the General Libraries. Seems fine to me. I don't know if it's that important. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev

Re: D-Bus/HAL

2007-04-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 4/26/07, Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a couple changes to make on dbus that Bruce and others suggested. I have to test out the make check make clean, but I think it's safe. Are you still handling the bindings? Should I commit the dbus change? I'm just going to push out

Re: D-Bus/HAL

2007-04-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 4/27/07, Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/26/07, Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a couple changes to make on dbus that Bruce and others suggested. I have to test out the make check make clean, but I think it's safe. Are you still handling the bindings? Should

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