Re: [boinc_dev] Rewriting BOINC Manager from scratch using Typescript

2018-01-07 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06.01.18 04:40, Vitalii Koshura wrote: > In this case I'll dig a little bit deeper and send you more details. If it doesn't have to be a fancy (yuk) node.js/electron base you should consider Qt. JM2C, Oliver ___ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.b

Re: [boinc_dev] Transifex resource updates

2017-11-09 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06.11.17 11:14 , Oliver Bock wrote: > How or when are updated PO templates from locale/templates propagated to > Transifex? IIRC there was some automated bridge that was supposed to do > this periodically. Anyone? The resource is still not updated at Transifex..

[boinc_dev] Transifex resource updates

2017-11-06 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi guys, How or when are updated PO templates from locale/templates propagated to Transifex? IIRC there was some automated bridge that was supposed to do this periodically. Thanks, Oliver ___ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu https://lis

Re: [boinc_dev] AMD's CAL

2017-08-22 Thread Oliver Bock
On 22/08/17 3:07 , David Anderson wrote: > What GPU info does the CAL function provide that OpenCL doesn't? This is the most important question IMHO. The OpenCL API doesn't cover certain device details (like free device memory) that might be relevant for task scheduling and are currently still onl

Re: [boinc_dev] Drupal post trimming

2017-08-21 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Richard, On 21/08/17 12:02 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > Could somebody explain - or possibly review - "post trimming" on a > drupal message board, please? I was wondering why my final sentence > was removed from the attached screenshot. Please note that this is a trimmed preview, not a trimme

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-09 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Filip, On 08/08/17 17:15 , Filip Rydlo wrote: > Hi, Oliver. > Perfect explanation! Thank You. I am starting to > understand the differences between GIT and SVN - thanx to You ! :-) You're welcome! I'm always glad to help. Cheers, Oliver smime.p7s Description: S/MI

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 16:16 , Laurence wrote: >> http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model > On the positive side it looks like we are not too far away from this model: From the model we'd like to see used, yes. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature __

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 8:23 , David Anderson wrote: > https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SoftwareTesting Thanks for the link. That document shows why we are in disagreement. There are statements in there which are invalid generalized conclusions based on limited personal experience and knowledge. Something

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 11:55 , Steffen Möller wrote: > More discussions in this thread do more harm than good in my experience, Well, at least a few people pointed out that they indeed learned a lot from these discussions. Apart from that I think the positions of everyone who voiced an opinion became a lot c

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 10:46 , Laurence wrote: > However, there is an assumption here that the build and testing > is all done by the project. Up to a certain point I think that's true (see below). > For the Linux client on Fedora (and Debian), > only a reference to the code in git is required. What is vers

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 10:29 , Christian Beer wrote: > - a bug is found and fixed in "base" (via a pull request) maybe totally > independent from testing the release > - the developer who fixed the bug tells the release manager to include > this fix into the release branch, this can not happen via a merge fro

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 10:41 , Jason Groothuis wrote: > Careful. If I need to get Hans Dokter in here, well... Some sayings just escape me... smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu https://li

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 10:26 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > * Failing to ensure that a bugfix is carried forward into the next cycle > * Allowing untested code to creep into a release Won't happen if you follow the process I just described in my reply to your previous mail :-) Other than that, increase conti

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 9:49 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > Clearly they need to be in the codebase which is being prepped for > release: but they also need to be in the core development line which > will form the basis for the next round of development. And we don't want > to allow new features to creep into t

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08/08/17 10:12 , Laurence wrote: > My comment was referring to > maintaining the release so creating the major.minor branch right after > publishing. Does that mean you want to publish a release based on (build from) master and only then create a release branch? That would be very unusual and I

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-08 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Laurence, On 07/08/17 23:11 , Laurence Field wrote: > On 07/08/17 09:55, Oliver Bock wrote: >> >> As Laurence pointed out: release branches are to stabilize >> and fix releases. >> > This is not what I intended to communicate. When the master (which > s

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-07 Thread Oliver Bock
On 07.08.2017 16:21, Steffen Möller wrote: > So, please find a way to stop this so very outdated discussion. This discussion is meant to help reaching a consensus on how to do things in the future - the very things you asked for. Only when one established the how one can establish the who. > Heck

Re: [boinc_dev] Software development and branches, was Re: [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-08-07 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06/08/17 22:40 , David Anderson wrote: > Testing a feature in isolation is not the same as testing the system. True. > No one is advocating committing untested or buggy code into master. Yet it happens most of the time, mostly because *development* happens in master. And even if one sees a se

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 15:52 , Juha Sointusalo wrote: > Oh but they are taken care of. They are ignored :/ Right, and that's perfectly fine for build artifacts. As we've seen the root cause of the problem is the current build system, so that needs fixing. Requiring everyone to use a fresh clone is a band-aid

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 14:39 , Juha Sointusalo wrote: > I think there is one benefit from having a new, empty directory for > building release versions. You can be certain that the build will not > include files left over from previous development work. True, but that's why I recommended to actively manage y

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 14:30 , Oliver Bock wrote: > On 04/08/17 14:15 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: >> Provided the local clone has "origin: master"? > > A local clone has everything of the upstream repo (origin by default) at > the time the clone occurred. That said, even if

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 14:15 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > Provided the local clone has "origin: master"? A local clone has everything of the upstream repo (origin by default) at the time the clone occurred. To sync your local clone (the repo itself, not its current working tree) with all remotes just run "g

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 14:17 , Oliver Bock wrote: > If there would be the respective SHA1s couldn't > be identical, right? :-) As always in situations like this, let me share again my canonical recommended reading (erm, viewing) on how git works: https://vimeo.com/14629850 https://git-scm.com

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 14:01 , Laurence wrote: > This means that if github disappeared tomorrow, we could recreate the > repository from anyone's local copy? Of course! All clones/forks are created equal. There's no qualitative difference between them. If there would be the respective SHA1s couldn't be ident

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 12:10 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > In that case, the workflow document linked by David earlier > - https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/AdminReleaseManagement - contains > totally unnecessary extra work steps: Indeed. > * Clone branch: clone ​https://github.com/boinc/boinc.git into n

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 11:54 , Charlie Fenton wrote: > Perhaps I'm not understanding what you meant by "contains", but if I > create a new branch named "newbranch" from an existing branch named > "oldbranch", then any commits made to oldbranch after that are not > included in a build I make using newbranch un

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 10:55 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > I think those last two messages expose the nub of the confusion. Are > we, or are we not Yep. > using Git in the way that Git was designed to be used? Git is just a tool, not a process. It wasn't designed to be used in one specific way. It makes po

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/08/17 9:58 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > Is there also a change in the definition of a 'tag'? In SVN days, a tag > - which we used to identify client code, nothing else - included only: A git tag is just a label you stick on a given commit. Nothing more, nothing less. How you use them is up

Re: [boinc_dev] Time for version 7.8.1?

2017-08-04 Thread Oliver Bock
On 03/08/17 17:03 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > it also means that the whole of the Drupal source code was included in the > v7.8.0 'client' tag. Just to avoid potential confusion: we're not using SVN anymore. A git branch always "contains" the whole repo, not some copy of specific parts of it.

Re: [boinc_dev] Mac Travis CI builds

2017-07-31 Thread Oliver Bock
On 31/07/17 10:33 , Jason Groothuis wrote: > We know Oliver, We know. To be fair, I was only referencing your comment on "modernised development methodology", not BOINC's practicality. Regarding the former, every single community voice I heard so far argued in the same way and agreed with one anot

Re: [boinc_dev] Mac Travis CI builds

2017-07-31 Thread Oliver Bock
On 31/07/17 10:19 , Jason Groothuis wrote: > If that's not clear enough (as usual with my particular mode of > speech), I'm completely with Christian on this, for forking BOINC to > something practical, and am in full favour of a modernised > development methodology. Fortunately, the (visible) com

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-24 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi David, On 22/07/17 10:13 , David Anderson wrote: > On 7/21/2017 1:26 AM, David Wallom wrote: >> the responsibility for functions to different community groups. As >> such it will be essential that we move to a multi branch development >> methodology in some form of public repository. I use this

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-24 Thread Oliver Bock
On 22/07/17 10:19 , Steffen Möller wrote: >> On 7/21/2017 1:26 AM, David Wallom wrote: >>> the responsibility for functions to different community groups. As >>> such it will be essential that we move to a multi branch development >>> methodology in some form of public repository. I use this in a l

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-21 Thread Oliver Bock
On 21/07/17 10:26 , David Wallom wrote: > Another thing I would like to introduce (at risk of a large back lash > ;) is the type of open source license currently used for BOINC. Please let's use a different thread and/or the workshop to discuss this. Thanks :-) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cr

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-21 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi David, On 21/07/17 0:50 , David Anderson wrote: > This discussion comes down to two contrasting models for software > development: Sorry, no, that's not the point. > 1) The "waterfall model": > 2) The "agile model": I know both models very well, professionally and scientifically. > Requirem

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-20 Thread Oliver Bock
On 20/07/17 11:11 , Oliver Bock wrote: > If you don't adapt and progress it > can only get worse, in particular from the point of view of newly > interested scientists and contributors. Just in case this came across in an offending way: the "you" wasn't meant person

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-20 Thread Oliver Bock
On 20/07/17 12:06 , David Anderson wrote: > As far as I can tell, none of the issues you mention have anything to do > with whether > we call master a "development branch" or an "integration branch". I know. That's why I keep trying to address that. > You seem to think that people who don't buy i

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-20 Thread Oliver Bock
On 20/07/17 10:09 , David Anderson wrote: >> Sorry, but this isn't a sustainable model. > Well, it's sustained us this far. Well, in that case we have a different understanding of "sustainable". Yes, BOINC survived, barely, but did it strive? Is it easy (let alone fun) to use for downstream projec

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-20 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi David, On 20/07/17 9:11 , David Anderson wrote: > Master is for new development. Sorry, but this isn't a sustainable model. Since only the client uses release branches *all* other components (e.g. the server!) depend on master being "usable". Therefore master should always be as stable as poss

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-19 Thread Oliver Bock
On 19.07.17 12:24, Oliver Bock wrote: > Other than that I'm fully in line with your proposal as it reflects what > I've already proposed here: > > https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/1874 Given the existence of that issue all further (related) discussion would ideally b

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] keywords

2017-07-19 Thread Oliver Bock
On 19/07/17 11:57 , Christian Beer wrote: > - if there is consensus that the feature is useful to BOINC in general > and known to be stable enough, the developer creates a pull request to > merge the feature into the master branch > - if the feature involves client changes, a new client version can

Re: [boinc_dev] boinc and 7.7 branch

2017-05-08 Thread Oliver Bock
On 08.05.17 16:26 , Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > Is anybody working on it? If so, please take a look at this issue: https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/1874 Cheers ___ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/

Re: [boinc_dev] Android 5.0 Issues

2017-05-02 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi James, On 30.04.17 6:50 , James Whitley wrote: > Android version 5.0 Which version of Android is this exactly? Also, is this plain Android (AOSP) or some vendor "enhanced" flavor of it? Please note that if you have a GitHub account you may directly add your answers to this issue: https://git

Re: [boinc_dev] BOINC API issue with android arm?

2017-04-10 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi David A. On 08.04.17 2:13 , David Anderson wrote: > I made some revisions to David Kim's code and put it in a branch: > https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/tree/android_api_dpa Can we please use the PR David K. thankfully created for this purpose? https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/pull/1858 > The ma

Re: [boinc_dev] BOINC API issue with android arm?

2017-04-07 Thread Oliver Bock
On 07.04.17 1:24 , David E Kim wrote: > How can I push my changes? I have them ready to push but don’t have > permission. You don't need any permission. The usual GitHub workflow looks like this: - Create an account on GitHub and upload a ssh public key - Fork BOINC on GitHub (button in upper-ri

Re: [boinc_dev] BOINC API issue with android arm?

2017-04-07 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06.04.17 17:33 , David Kim wrote: > but I can definitely push our > changes to have them reviewed, updated, and tested. That was the idea :-) ___ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_d

Re: [boinc_dev] Help with BOINC Notices problem on OS 10.12.4

2017-04-06 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06.04.17 9:22 , Oliver Bock wrote: >> and perhaps >> try to find a solution? > > This remains to be seen :-) That said, please open an issue on GitHub to facilitate tracking this down (incl. increasing the potential of finding debugg

Re: [boinc_dev] BOINC API issue with android arm?

2017-04-06 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06.04.17 9:38 , David Kim wrote: > Ok, I just posted an issue on GitHub. Thanks. > I also gave David Anderson our boinc_api.cpp mods. For future contributions/fixes it would be great if you'd just push your changes to GitHub and open a PR. This way your patches don't leave the toolchain, attr

Re: [boinc_dev] BOINC API issue with android arm?

2017-04-06 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06.04.17 9:25 , Oliver Bock wrote: > On 06.04.17 8:11 , Eric Driver wrote: >> As a side note, do you get enough android users to justify the extra >> work of maintaining the android app? > > Luckily BOINC is a community project nowadays so "extra work" is a

Re: [boinc_dev] BOINC API issue with android arm?

2017-04-06 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06.04.17 8:11 , Eric Driver wrote: > As a side note, do you get enough android users to justify the extra > work of maintaining the android app? Luckily BOINC is a community project nowadays so "extra work" is a term that doesn't really fit anymore, as long as there's a community willing to sup

Re: [boinc_dev] Help with BOINC Notices problem on OS 10.12.4

2017-04-06 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06.04.17 2:46 , Charlie Fenton wrote: > IS there > anyone on this list who could test this under OS 10.12.4 I can reproduce it. > and perhaps > try to find a solution? This remains to be seen :-) Best, Oliver ___ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@s

Re: [boinc_dev] BOINC API issue with android arm?

2017-04-06 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi David, On 05.04.17 20:39 , David E Kim wrote: > I’m not sure if this is the right list to use but thought I’d mention > it here. If you don't mind, please open an issue for this on GitHub to facilitate tracking down this problem. Thanks, Oliver ___

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-30 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 17:59 , Christian Beer wrote: > If the Client/Manager was built from one of the commits above then every > commit in master is part of the history of this version. That's precisely my point. There's no point in thinking/guessing about what might be part of a given release. That's app

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-30 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Richard, On 29/03/2017 17:07 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > Not every project updated (or updates) their BOINC servers > synchronously, > and http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=7704&postid=45186#45186 > shows > how I was able to demonstrate that - *even after the project said the

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-30 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 17:11 , Christian Beer wrote: > The SHA1 would still be the best way to show the version but is not > useful because of the way git works. Every project obviously has a clone > of the main BOINC repository but they won't just checkout this and use > it on their production webserver. T

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 15:24 , Jord van der Elst wrote: > For clarity, BOINC has always adopted that the uneven release numbers > were development versions, while even were release versions. > Major.uneven.revision == development, Major.even.revision == release. > In the past only when the development versi

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 13:17 , Vitalii Koshura wrote: > but currently we have another situation: > master branch can not be a start point for new release branch. It's not a matter of whether it should or even can be. It's a matter of fact that the latest release (7.7.2) was build from master if I'm not mis

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 13:22 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > I'm talking about the information visible to volunteers outside the core > project staff. I know, but what exactly do you mean by "public-facing page" and "diagnosis"? Of what? The version of the web code or the daemons used by a project? > Small

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 12:44 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > I agree that the SHAs would be more precise, but they'd be ugly to > display on a public-facing page, Not sure why the public would need to know that at all anyway :-) > and less easy to do diagnosis The admin should have no problem with SHA1s.

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 12:30 , Vitalii Koshura wrote: > I will not do any any cherry-picks because I have write access to the repo. You mean "no write access"? > If you will look at the current branch tree you will see that every new > release branch bases on previous release branch. And master branch is

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 11:55 , Richard Haselgrove wrote: > Would there be a way to keep the auto-generation of the date and > author fields, even though the Git SHA isn't helpful in this > situation? Yes, use "git log" (see man page for tons of tailoring options). > Projects also used to show a single SVN

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 10:33 , Vitalii Koshura wrote: > @Oliver, I want to build a list of recommended commits to be > integrated into release branch. > The list of 'fresh' commits (after > 6.6.33) will be very short (less than 100 commits). Also I want to > see older commits which were not released for som

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 10:17 , Vitalii Koshura wrote: > Merge commits are not good candidates to be merged integrated into > release branch because it's hard to understand what commits were exactly > merged. Ah, we seem to have a misunderstanding here. I thought you were gathering a list commits such that

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 10:09 , David Anderson wrote: > The change logs are for volunteers, > so that they can see a summary of functional changes and decide whether > to upgrade. That's one important aspect, yes. However, functional changes can also be "internal" so a changelog is also very valuable for th

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 29/03/2017 9:40 , Vitalii Koshura wrote: > From my POV the the most hard part of this is to select important > commits only. As long as you ignore merge commits, which is easy given their common commit message prefix, EVERY commit is important. Changelogs are for *various* user groups and thus

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: Re: [boinc_alpha] R: BOINC 7.7.2 released for Win

2017-03-28 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Vitalii, On 28/03/2017 9:34 , Vitalii Koshura wrote: > I can do the hard job and prepare the list of commits for 7.7 release and > also prepare the list of fixes with issue numbers. That doesn't need to be hard. Just use git (log) and generate the changelog. All you need to know to do that are

Re: [boinc_dev] client in master is broken

2016-02-09 Thread Oliver Bock
On 09/02/16 14:10 , Rom Walton wrote: > Should be fixed now. Please, please, please. It's been about three years since we migrated to git. BOINC moved to GitHub just recently and tries to adopt a community governance model. It should really be possible by now that devs start using feature branches

Re: [boinc_dev] SSL support of BOINC

2015-11-26 Thread Oliver Bock
On 26/11/15 15:20 , Christian Beer wrote: > We are currently looking into how to get a cross signed certificate that > is present in the old ca-bundle and still valid. Done! FTR, Thawte users can append the following two CA roots to their chain file (in this order): 1) Alternative "thawte Primar

[boinc_dev] Fwd: 493c9d: Revert "lib: Prevent the xml_unescape function fro...

2015-11-18 Thread Oliver Bock
Dear BOINC devs/committers, When you revert a commit, please add a word or two describing the reasoning. Thanks, Oliver PS: Kudos for using git revert at all! Forwarded Message Subject: [boinc_cvs] [BOINC/boinc] 493c9d: Revert "lib: Prevent the xml_unescape function fro... D

Re: [boinc_dev] Suggestion for a RPC for reporting invalid (and other status) tasks

2015-10-20 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi all, On 17/10/15 3:07 , AgentB wrote: > The resultsRPC could be used in a number of ways in the future > > Future versions of boinc or the boincmgr could use it to > + put an alert notice if a new error detected recently > + log the event, like the job_.txt files > + put a last week scorecard

Re: [boinc_dev] Fwd: New Defects reported by Coverity Scan for BOINC/boinc

2015-10-14 Thread Oliver Bock
On 14/10/15 0:49 , David Anderson wrote: > FYI. I'm not sure how to fix these, or if they matter. See below... > *** CID 117636: Insecure data handling (TAINTED_SCALAR) > /sched/size_regulator.cpp: 85 in main() > 79 hi = atoi(argv[++i]); > 80 } else if (!strcmp(argv

Re: [boinc_dev] Problem with login on wiki

2015-09-17 Thread Oliver Bock
On 17/09/15 9:34 , fox.ky...@jifox.cz wrote: > Also the same question about wiki pages. Any changes there? I cannot login > with right login credentials Hm, works just fine for me (as long as we talk about trac@berkeley)... O. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [boinc_dev] Problem with GIT

2015-09-17 Thread Oliver Bock
On 17/09/15 9:31 , fox.ky...@jifox.cz wrote: > Was there any change to the link for source code? I got just 'connection > refused' with using: > > git clone git://boinc.berkeley.edu/boinc-v2.git boinc-src Yes, it moved here: https://github.com/BOINC/boinc Oliver smime.p7s Description: S/MIM

Re: [boinc_dev] Feature request: Preference for graphics apps or fastapps.

2014-08-06 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi David, On 06/08/14 10:02 , Bernd Machenschalk wrote: > Oliver has already mentioned that we use this approach in the > BOINC-Drupal project and has pointed out the XML specification that was > developed there. I think it would save time and effort for all of us to > use this as a basis. That's

Re: [boinc_dev] Declarations of structures DB_HOST and RESULT

2014-06-19 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Lukasz, On 19/06/14 10:02 , lswierczewski . wrote: > What file contains the declarations of structures DB_HOST db/boinc_db.h > and RESULT? > db/boinc_db_types.h Best, Oliver smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ boinc_dev

Re: [boinc_dev] Heartbleed bug with OpenSSL

2014-04-15 Thread Oliver Bock
On 15/04/14 17:37 , Rom Walton wrote: > In order to exploit the client wouldn't a project server using SSL have > to be compromised? Yes, or use a man-in-the-middle-attack... Oliver smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ boinc_dev

Re: [boinc_dev] Heartbleed bug with OpenSSL

2014-04-15 Thread Oliver Bock
On 15/04/14 16:38 , Rom Walton wrote: > Since the client doesn't use SSL in a server-role it doesn't need to be > backported to older branches. Not sure I understand you correctly but Heartbleed is a bi-directional issue. So yes, client libs need to be updated to protect the client - as you alread

Re: [boinc_dev] Heartbleed bug with OpenSSL

2014-04-15 Thread Oliver Bock
On 15/04/14 13:56 , TarotApprentice wrote: > Apart from all the hype I presume BOINC will need to come bundled > with a patched OpenSSL and the projects need to update to a later > version incorporating a patched OpenSSL. Any advice from the BOINC > developers? Charlie already updated OpenSSL bund

Re: [boinc_dev] signed versus unsigned git tags

2014-03-15 Thread Oliver Bock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/03/14 19:30, Toralf Förster wrote: > Just for completeness: from this : > http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics-Tagging it seems to be that a > signed tag is always an annotated tag too, right ? Yes. The signature just becomes part of the annota

Re: [boinc_dev] signed versus unsigned git tags

2014-03-15 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Rom, On 14/03/14 19:10, Rom Walton wrote: > The basic problem at the moment is TortiseGit is 64-bit while Gpg4win > is 32-bit. TortiseGit cannot see/use the 32-bit gpg-agent to extract > the signing key I created. As I said earlier, this is not about tag signing. You can still use annotated t

Re: [boinc_dev] signed versus unsigned git tags

2014-03-14 Thread Oliver Bock
On 14/03/14 15:00 , Toralf Förster wrote: > Is there a reason in this project to not use annotated tags here ? Not to my knowledge. Maybe ease of use...? Release tags in particular could (or even should) be annotated tags because it wouldn't make much sense to update or delete them afterwards - t

Re: [boinc_dev] signed versus unsigned git tags

2014-03-14 Thread Oliver Bock
On 04/03/14 16:54 , Toralf Förster wrote: > Would the usage of signed git tags improves the readability of "git > describe" ? No, because this is not about signed vs. unsigned tags but about annotated (signed or unsigned) vs. lightweight tags. If you want to include lightweight tags just add --ta

Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting ...

2014-02-17 Thread Oliver Bock
On 17/02/14 15:39 , William wrote: > This is exactly why linear should be the default. Dynamic should > be available only to those projects that care enough to set it up > properly. Linear should apply to the lazy ones unless and until > they take the time to deliberately opt in. And this is whe

Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting ...

2014-02-17 Thread Oliver Bock
e intended new linear switch would cause a fully dynamic calculation. > If there isn't, then make the linear version be opt in, not the old one. Yep, that's what I'd like to see (see earlier mails). Oliver > -Original Message- > From: Oliver Bock [mailto:oliver.b

Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting ...

2014-02-17 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi John, On 14/02/14 3:48 , McLeod, John wrote: > Having the current method be opt in is no better than having a new method be > opt in – for exactly the same reasons. I concur with William: if projects miss to opt for using the linear/dynamic flag they'll only hurt themselves. This is a self-co

Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting ...

2014-02-17 Thread Oliver Bock
On 14/02/14 8:30 , David Anderson wrote: > I'd prefer to figure out why the static estimates are off. > If an app's jobs are of a size proportional to wu.rsc_fpops_est, > the static estimates should be almost exact, even for a host's first jobs. The static estimates are often very rough ones becau

Re: [boinc_dev] Estimated Time Remaining, frictional reporting ...

2014-02-13 Thread Oliver Bock
On 13/02/14 11:00 , Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein wrote: > If an estimate is just "it will take 100 hrs, 10 min, 5 sec" , updated > every second, the user reaction will (understandably) be different > compared to something like (say) > "100 hrs (+/- 80 hrs)". In addition to HBE's approach above, I r

Re: [boinc_dev] worth to rethink the git workflow of the BOINC project ?

2013-12-07 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Toralf, >IMHO the current "Forced update of the master branch" topic of the >mailing list is a good reminder to rethink about the current "git >commit" / "git push" / "git tag" policy. The use of the master branch for development as well as major/minor release branches for maintenance isn't t

Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_projects] Forced update of the master branch

2013-12-06 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06/12/13 16:39 , Oliver Bock wrote: > - git reflog expire --expire=all --expire-unreachable=all --all > - git gc --aggressive --prune=all Let me add that these two steps are optional and just meant to reclaim wasted diskspace (120 MB). This is going to happen automatically after 30-9

[boinc_dev] Forced update of the master branch (was: build files in repo)

2013-12-06 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi everyone, We removed the binaries that got accidentally added to the master branch. This required to partially rewrite the history, affecting all commits after 229c1c5. What does this mean for you? First of all, if you haven't yet pulled beyond 229c1c5 you can stop reading and pull whenever y

Re: [boinc_dev] android - new manager layout

2013-11-25 Thread Oliver Bock
On 25/11/13 15:39 , Joachim Fritzsch wrote: > What do you think? Nice and useful! One minor comment: you want to separate the icon and the label of the top menu bar buttons more clearly. See "Preferences" for instance: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i1ebp0xffoujx3m/H_jKaIQwNa#lh:null-6-nexus7-potrai

Re: [boinc_dev] Valve's SteamOS and SteamMachines

2013-11-07 Thread Oliver Bock
On 06/11/13 20:32 , Jord van der Elst wrote: > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Oliver Bock wrote: >> In case of the hardware beta I'd expect Valve to be very selective >> because of the natural shortage of prototype machines. I'd expect that >> they focus on gam

Re: [boinc_dev] Valve's SteamOS and SteamMachines

2013-11-06 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi Carl, On 06/11/13 17:07, Carl Christensen wrote: > I signed up as I figured if there's a USB port it could be cheap & > easy to host a USB accelerometer for QCN; but their vetting process > to become a member is a bit ridiculous. I did the Raspberry Pi & > GuruPlug computers and they were much

[boinc_dev] Valve's SteamOS and SteamMachines

2013-11-06 Thread Oliver Bock
Hi, Has anyone yet considered getting BOINC to run on Valve's upcoming hardware and operating system? Is anyone participating in the beta program? http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS Both look really interesting, considering the

Re: [boinc_dev] [eah_android] Re: android: transfers in Projects tab

2013-10-07 Thread Oliver Bock
On 10/1/13 19:55 , Joachim Fritzsch wrote: > I have uploaded screen shots to my public dropbox folder: > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i1ebp0xffoujx3m/H_jKaIQwNa > > It is quite hard to capture, since most transfers are over within > seconds on a decent wifi connection. > > On one of the screen shot

Re: [boinc_dev] could the git comment be more descriptive or better empty ?

2013-05-29 Thread Oliver Bock
On 5/29/13 11:51 , "Steffen Möller" wrote: >> Yeah - I was just grumbling about a commit with the only message >> >> "Include instead of various places" >> >> nothing else - and of course gitk shows for a dozen of files such a >> change. Every ?!&%%$$ user can see the diff using gitk - so im

Re: [boinc_dev] boinc_dev Digest, Vol 107, Issue 6

2013-04-23 Thread Oliver Bock
On 4/23/13 15:42 , Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > Hi David and Oliver, this should be the final version. Great! Looks good (the patch format, haven't checked the content)! Thanks, Oliver ___ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu http://li

Re: [boinc_dev] boinc_dev Digest, Vol 107, Issue 6

2013-04-23 Thread Oliver Bock
On 4/23/13 15:22 , Oliver Bock wrote: > If you provide verbose/multi-line commit messages, please use a > subject/body format. That means: > > 1) use a single brief line as "subject" > 2) followed by an empty line > 3) then the bulk (or "body") of your

Re: [boinc_dev] boinc_dev Digest, Vol 107, Issue 6

2013-04-23 Thread Oliver Bock
On 4/23/13 15:13 , Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > Should be better now :) One final minor suggestion :-) If you provide verbose/multi-line commit messages, please use a subject/body format. That means: 1) use a single brief line as "subject" 2) followed by an empty line 3) then the bulk (or "bod

Re: [boinc_dev] boinc_dev Digest, Vol 107, Issue 6

2013-04-23 Thread Oliver Bock
On 4/23/13 15:06 , Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > This is the second part, from Guo Yixuan, I changed in the patch the > author line, I hope it's enough for giving credits to him! FWIW: you can commit using separate author information by using the following git commit option: --author="First Last

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