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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:17 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Loss (was: Religious freedom)
Then, last Saturday, my
Dad died at the age of 90...and I just got
On Sep 6, 2006, at 7:47 PM, jdiebremse wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people
are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of
religion and the ghastly damage it causes
On 7 Sep 2006, at 3:47AM, jdiebremse wrote:
Wow. I do have to admire your chutzpah..
That's cute from the guy whose favourite topic reduces to accusing
everyone who uses contraception of being a mass-murderer.
Goose Maru
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Web :
On 9/3/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006 at 0:41, William T Goodall wrote:
It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people
are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of
religion and the ghastly damage it causes individuals
On 6 Sep 2006, at 12:40PM, John W Redelfs wrote:
I agree with Goodall, us religious people are sickening poisonous
evil
filth. That is why we need the Atonement and forgiveness that can
only
come in one way. But I can see things from the atheist perspective
too.
Since all of us are
Richard Baker wrote:
Andrew said:
Plenty which can be done. But someone who is dyslexic will allways
make certain personally consistant spelling errors. That is not
something which can be overcome, as stated.
Does your mail client support the checking of spelling? Mail.app for OS
X
-- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Then, last Saturday, my
Dad died at the age of 90...and I just got back from
the funeral...and helping my mom.
I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Even when we expect
our loved ones to die soon, of whatever, it's hard
when they go.
Debbi
Anticipating
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people
are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of
religion and the ghastly damage it causes individuals and society.
However a number of
On 5 Sep 2006, at 5:52AM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 04/09/2006, at 8:05 PM, Dan Minette wrote:
3) A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings
of a spiritual leader.
Now, #4 is consistent with Tom Cruise and Scientology, but it is
also consistent with you and atheism.
On 03/09/2006, at 4:30 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
And you know who fights them? Not your precious atheists, it's
Christians and Jews.
Sweeping statement. And utter bollocks. Your attitude towards atheism
is hard to distinguish from Will's baiting about religion. How about
you *both*
On 04/09/2006, at 6:44 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Really. So Keith Henson is not an atheist? I'd be surprised to
learn that.
Yes, there's allways the odd one. But in my experience, the people
opposing Scientology are in the ratio of arround 20:1
theists:atheists.
Maybe because the
On 4 Sep 2006, at 3:20AM, Dan Minette wrote:
We know that pedophiles like to get jobs that put them in contact with
youth, like church youth workers, boy scout leaders, girl guide
leaders,
teachers, etc. This does not make any of these organizations
inherently
evil. Up until recently,
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Hobby
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:53 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument
Dan Minette wrote:
...
Again, per my last email
(Oops, I had digital signing on when I first sent this.)
On 4 Sep 2006, at 4:08PM, Dan Minette wrote:
Sure it is. Sociology of religion does included discussions of belief
systems, as well as behavior. In a sense, while the beliefs are
non-empirical...the written and stated beliefs are
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of William T Goodall
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:52 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument
It is not part of the necessary definition
On 9/4/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 04/09/2006, at 6:44 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Really. So Keith Henson is not an atheist? I'd be surprised to
learn that.
Yes, there's allways the odd one. But in my experience, the people
opposing Scientology are in the ratio of
Andrew said:
Plenty which can be done. But someone who is dyslexic will allways
make certain personally consistant spelling errors. That is not
something which can be overcome, as stated.
Does your mail client support the checking of spelling? Mail.app for
OS X consistently underlines in
Richard Baker wrote:
Does your mail client support the checking of spelling? Mail.app for
OS X consistently underlines in red the spelling mistakes in those
of your emails to which I reply.
When I use Linux KDE's kmail, it starts underlining every
English word, until it reaches a point
On Sep 3, 2006, at 2:30 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:09PM, Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 3, 2006, at 12:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 7:55PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that
the Catholic Church has
On 4 Sep 2006 at 0:30, David Hobby wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
...
Your basic lack of knowledge about dyslexia is glaring. It is not
something which can be overcome by an educator. It is a literal
perceptile gap on the part of the dyslexic person.
Andrew--
Sorry about my
On 4 Sep 2006, at 6:05PM, Dan Minette wrote:
One of the ways that we differ is that I believe that definitions
of words are set by those that use the language...while you believe
that words mean what William Goodall want them to mean and that
everyone else is wrong if they differ with
On 4 Sep 2006, at 8:20PM, Dave Land wrote:
Prove it. Document *Centuries* of pedophilia in the Catholic church
or please
shut the hell up.
As has been established elsewhere in this thread I don't need to.
They do it now, they did it fifty years ago and absent some reason
why
On 4 Sep 2006, at 6:05PM, Dan Minette wrote:
Just to check, I found a common source for definitions I haven't
used before, and now quote it's definition of religion: Answers.com
And I quote:
quote
re·li·gion (rĭ-lĭj'ən)
n.
1a) Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers
On 04/09/2006, at 8:05 PM, Dan Minette wrote:
3) A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings
of a spiritual leader.
Now, #4 is consistent with Tom Cruise and Scientology, but it is
also consistent with you and atheism.
And number 3 is also consistent with
On 3 Sep 2006, at 2:30AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006 at 0:53, William T Goodall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 10:10PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006 at 21:57, William T Goodall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 9:34PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
No, the issue is that some people are
On 3 Sep 2006, at 3:03AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Interesting. Why do you suppose you feel that way?
Oh, I suppose I feel that way.
Eliza Maru
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Theists cannot be
On 3 Sep 2006 at 8:31, William T Goodall wrote:
Perhaps if you read the origional again? I gave plenty of evidence,
which starts with the fact that they operate as whatever sort of
organisation better suits the area. They not a religion, they are a
form of organised crime (especially in
On 3 Sep 2006, at 3:07PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006 at 8:31, William T Goodall wrote:
Perhaps if you read the origional again? I gave plenty of evidence,
which starts with the fact that they operate as whatever sort of
organisation better suits the area. They not a religion, they
I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the Catholic
Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries...
Damon.
Damon Agretto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
On 3 Sep 2006, at 7:55PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the
Catholic Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries...
It's common knowledge. There have been hundreds of news stories about
the Catholic Church covering up
Merging several posts on this subject:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of PAT MATHEWS
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 3:49 PM
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Religious freedom
TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted
.
-Original Message-
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:18:29
To:Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Religious freedom
On 3 Sep 2006, at 7:55PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence
On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:05 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
And yes, OSX is marvelous. Its merest bootlace, Windows is not
worthy to kiss. - David Brin
With all the things that you and I have to disagree about, it is nice
that we
have this in common.
Dave
On 3 Sep 2006, at 8:28PM, Dan Minette wrote:
Merging several posts on this subject:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of PAT MATHEWS
TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated - several
times
over and we're
On 3 Sep 2006, at 8:37PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is, If I presented a paper that, FREX, the Fyrd was a
common element of the Anglo-norman army as common knowledge, I
can guarantee I wouldn't make it too far.
But I'm not presenting a paper.
And since it is common knowledge
On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:20 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:49:52 -0700, Nick Arnett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/2/06, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated -
several times
over and we're getting into battling
On Sep 3, 2006, at 12:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 7:55PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the
Catholic Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries...
It's common knowledge. There have been hundreds of
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:09PM, Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 3, 2006, at 12:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 7:55PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the
Catholic Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries...
It's
.
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.
-Original Message-
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:48:02
To:Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Religious freedom
On 3 Sep 2006, at 8:37PM, [EMAIL
On 3 Sep 2006 at 21:45, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 8:28PM, Dan Minette wrote:
IMHO, that's not surprising when people are discussing sets of
presuppositionsespecially when one of the people is convinced
that his
own set is Truth.
I'm glad you're prepared to
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's put it this way: I flatly reject that it is common
knowledge since I have NEVER heard of a centuries old Catholic
Pedophile Ring. Irregardless, saying its common knowledge in no
way makes it true.
Let me be more blunt then:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
And no, I can't spell. I'm dyslexic. Your point?
It's harder to read your incoherent babbling when it's full of
spelling mistakes.
Good spelling is polite Maru
--
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Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web :
22:53:13
To:Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Religious freedom
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's put it this way: I flatly reject that it is common
knowledge since I have NEVER heard of a centuries old Catholic
Pedophile Ring. Irregardless
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote:
It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find
important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove
me wrong go ahead and knock yourself out. Otherwise we'll just have
to differ on the matter.
Just to
On 9/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the Catholic
Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries...
There are many things that are true for which no evidence can be produced.
In fact, I would suggest that
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:03PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I had no real expectation that you would respond in any
meaningful way, but I could not let such a statement of
intellectual vacuum lay unchallenged. Since so far you are the only
one making a statement of such belief, I can rest
On 3 Sep 2006 at 17:19, William T Goodall wrote:
I doubt that the heads of most religions believe. These are
intelligent college educated people after all. Belief is what they
use to gull money and power from the ignorant and superstitious
people that they prey on.
There's only one
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the Catholic Church is the
largest pedophile ring in the world. That's pretty criminal and
they've been covering that up for centuries.
That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Dan posted a very clear
analysis here during the
WTG wrote:
And no, I can't spell. I'm dyslexic. Your point?
It's harder to read your incoherent babbling when it's full of
spelling mistakes.
Thta's rude, William. Yuo can't bunr peopel at the steak for
things they are born with!
Ablerto Monteiro
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote:
It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find
important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove
me wrong go ahead and knock yourself out. Otherwise
.
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.
-Original Message-
From: John W Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:15:08
To:Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Religious freedom
On 9/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL
Message-
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:15:17
To:Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Religious freedom
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:03PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I had no real expectation that you would respond in any
meaningful way
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:19PM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the Catholic Church is the
largest pedophile ring in the world. That's pretty criminal and
they've been covering that up for centuries.
That is an absolutely ridiculous statement.
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:33PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you have no intention of pursuing this line of thought, why are
you continuing to post on it?
I'll stop right now!
Your other post only illustrates you want to make conclusions based
on belief, not on evidence.
You have
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:23PM, John W Redelfs wrote:
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given the Church's ongoing efforts to cover up the issue any lack of
published scandal prior to the well-known present day cases can't
show that molestation wasn't going on then too.
I
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:19PM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:
Dan posted a very clear
analysis here during the height of the recent pedophilia scandal
that
showed that rates of pedophilia among Catholic priests was no
higher than in
the general population at large, and I seem recall reading
It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people
are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of
religion and the ghastly damage it causes individuals and society.
However a number of people (you know who you are and I won't
embarrass you by quoting
On 4 Sep 2006 at 0:41, William T Goodall wrote:
It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people
are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of
religion and the ghastly damage it causes individuals and society.
No, people are calling you a atheist
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:00, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
And no, I can't spell. I'm dyslexic. Your point?
It's harder to read your incoherent babbling when it's full of
spelling mistakes.
That's nice. I allready know you can't be
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:08, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote:
It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find
important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove
me wrong go ahead and knock yourself out.
: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:58:01
To:Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Religious freedom
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:00, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
And no, I can't spell. I'm dyslexic. Your point
On 4 Sep 2006, at 12:58AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:00, William T Goodall wrote:
Good spelling is polite Maru
Not criticising people for disabilities is polite, as well. But given
the propaganda you spew, I can't expect politeness from you.
I'm being far politer to you
On 4 Sep 2006, at 1:15AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More to the point, pointing out spelling mistakes and bad grammer
is an indication you have nothing better to say...
Some posts have nothing in them worth replying to.
Both my parents were teachers Maru
--
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Mail : [EMAIL
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:22, William T Goodall wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006, at 12:58AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:00, William T Goodall wrote:
Good spelling is polite Maru
Not criticising people for disabilities is polite, as well. But given
the propaganda you spew, I can't
I have started deleting every post headed religious freedom after sampling
the endless debate and the level of debate. (You're another!)
Two of them just showed up in my junk mail box. Dave Land and William
Goodall.
TIME Gentlemen!
http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com
At 05:33 PM Sunday 9/3/2006, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:19PM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the Catholic Church is the
largest pedophile ring in the world. That's pretty criminal and
they've been covering that up for
On 4 Sep 2006, at 1:28AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:22, William T Goodall wrote:
I'm being far politer to you than all the careless educators who
couldn't be bothered to teach you the basics of thinking and writing
because you had a handicap.
Your basic lack of knowledge
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:27, William T Goodall wrote:
Both my parents were teachers Maru
Shame they didn't teach you the value of tolerence.
AndrewC
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On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:51, William T Goodall wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006, at 1:28AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:22, William T Goodall wrote:
I'm being far politer to you than all the careless educators who
couldn't be bothered to teach you the basics of thinking and writing
On 04/09/2006, at 2:58 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:08, William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote:
It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find
important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove
me wrong
Perhaps inspired by today's pink unicorn sighting, allow me mumble a bit
about evil and ethics (not just a county in England, as Tom Holt says).
When I arrived at Kenyon College a couple of decades ago for my freshman
year, one of the rites of passage was a talk by the provost, whose name I
wish
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charlie Bell
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 8:44 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Religious freedom
On 04/09/2006, at 2:58 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:08, William
On 9/2/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's just the best link again: http://www.xenu.net
And you know who fights them? Not your precious atheists, it's
Christians and Jews.
AndrewC
Really. So Keith Henson is not an atheist? I'd be surprised to learn that.
~maru
On 9/2/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 11:49PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 9/2/06, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated - several
times
over and we're getting into battling assertions now with ad hominem
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:38, maru dubshinki wrote:
On 9/2/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's just the best link again: http://www.xenu.net
And you know who fights them? Not your precious atheists, it's
Christians and Jews.
AndrewC
Really. So Keith Henson is not
Maru Dubshinki wrote:
Clearly that the pink unicorn is actually an Invisible Pink Unicorn,
as no one can see it.
It surprised me that so many of you believe in this Pink Unicorn Myth.
The ammount of people that believe in this is a strong evidence
that They(tm) didn't disable the Orbital Mind
Andrew Crystall wrote:
...
Your basic lack of knowledge about dyslexia is glaring. It is not
something which can be overcome by an educator. It is a literal
perceptile gap on the part of the dyslexic person.
Andrew--
Sorry about my Scientototology joke a couple days
ago. On the other hand,
Dan Minette wrote:
...
Again, per my last email absolute rubbish. Scientology is a
creed, a UFO cult set up to milk the members of cash. It is a
business, not a religion.
If I could step in here, I think this is part of William's point.
From the outside, it's hard to tell one group that
William T Goodall wrote:
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote:
It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find important
enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove me wrong go
ahead and knock yourself out. Otherwise we'll just have to differ on
On 1 Sep 2006, at 7:10PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Aggressive atheists cannot be trusted since they believe right and
wrong are entirely relative and their ethics are based on no firm
principles except intolerance and the hatred of the religious.
Straw man. I don't know who you have in mind
On 2 Sep 2006 at 16:54, William T Goodall wrote:
On 1 Sep 2006, at 7:10PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Aggressive atheists cannot be trusted since they believe right and
wrong are entirely relative and their ethics are based on no firm
principles except intolerance and the hatred of the
On 2 Sep 2006, at 5:07PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Yes, amazing how different it is if you, say, follow the teachings of
say Marx, or L. Ron Hubbard, or your grandma... Oh wait, it's not.
You are saying Marx, L Ron Hubbard and my grandma all have the same
'teachings'? That seems a
On 2 Sep 2006 at 17:29, William T Goodall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 5:07PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Yes, amazing how different it is if you, say, follow the teachings of
say Marx, or L. Ron Hubbard, or your grandma... Oh wait, it's not.
You are saying Marx, L Ron Hubbard and my
On 2 Sep 2006, at 5:42PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006 at 17:29, William T Goodall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 5:07PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Yes, amazing how different it is if you, say, follow the
teachings of
say Marx, or L. Ron Hubbard, or your grandma... Oh wait, it's not.
Andrew said:
The ONLY given with a militant atheist is that he is driven by hatred
and intolerence. Whuch you are.
But am I?
Rich
GCU Tarred With The Same Brush
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On 2 Sep 2006 at 18:17, William T Goodall wrote:
No, of course they don't have the same teachings. That's the point -
there are a variety of non-religious creeds which vary from
Scientology to Communism and so on.
Scientology is a religion. Communism is a quasi-religion.
Again, per my
On 2 Sep 2006 at 18:42, Richard Baker wrote:
Andrew said:
The ONLY given with a militant atheist is that he is driven by hatred
and intolerence. Whuch you are.
But am I?
I don't see you posting constant slams and digs at the slightest
opportunity against religious people, you don't
On 2 Sep 2006, at 6:53PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Militant forms of zealotry - militant atheism among them - and free
goverment are incompatible by the base principle, and I for one
happen to take a stand against your intollerence and biggotry.
So you're intolerant of my views then?
And I
Andrew Crystall wrote:
Straw man. I don't know who you have in mind but *I*
certainly am not
a relativist and my ethical principles have immovably solid
foundations.
No, you do not. Your principles have no backing beyond what you feel.
Two things:
How would you know?
And, how about
Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006 at 18:17, William T Goodall wrote:
No, of course they don't have the same teachings. That's the point -
there are a variety of non-religious creeds which vary from
Scientology to Communism and so on.
Scientology is a religion. Communism is a
On 2 Sep 2006 at 19:46, William T Goodall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 6:53PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Militant forms of zealotry - militant atheism among them - and free
goverment are incompatible by the base principle, and I for one
happen to take a stand against your intollerence and
On 2 Sep 2006 at 16:08, David Hobby wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006 at 18:17, William T Goodall wrote:
No, of course they don't have the same teachings. That's the point -
there are a variety of non-religious creeds which vary from
Scientology to Communism and so on.
On 3 Sep 2006 at 0:27, Ritu wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
Straw man. I don't know who you have in mind but *I*
certainly am not
a relativist and my ethical principles have immovably solid
foundations.
No, you do not. Your principles have no backing beyond what you feel.
TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated - several times
over and we're getting into battling assertions now with ad hominem
trimmings.
And around and around and around goes this topic
All things get said whether left, right, or wrong.
We are the children of the Goddess called
On 2 Sep 2006, at 9:34PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
No, the issue is that some people are blind bigots and others are
not. It is a plain fact that scientology is not a religion.
Andrew says, so it must be so isn't a form of argument that other
people will necessarily find very convincing.
On 2 Sep 2006 at 21:57, William T Goodall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 9:34PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
No, the issue is that some people are blind bigots and others are
not. It is a plain fact that scientology is not a religion.
Andrew says, so it must be so isn't a form of argument
On 9/2/06, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated - several times
over and we're getting into battling assertions now with ad hominem
trimmings.
I resent that. I believe I wrote something original about pink unicorns.
Stupid-face.
On 2 Sep 2006, at 11:49PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 9/2/06, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated - several
times
over and we're getting into battling assertions now with ad hominem
trimmings.
I resent that. I believe I wrote
On 3 Sep 2006 at 0:53, William T Goodall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 10:10PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006 at 21:57, William T Goodall wrote:
On 2 Sep 2006, at 9:34PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
No, the issue is that some people are blind bigots and others are
not. It is a
At 12:17 PM Saturday 9/2/2006, William T Goodall wrote:
You are very confused. Perhaps you should seek therapy to get your
beliefs to accord more closely with reality.
Interesting. Why do you suppose you feel that way?
-- Ronn! :)
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