Re: [Brin-l] Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If We Must

2002-09-21 Thread Ray Ludenia
John D. Giorgis wrote: At 10:24 AM 9/20/2002 -0400 K. Feete wrote: I'm sorry. I guess I come off as overly cynical, and I have to admit I haven't been following the news too closely; it depresses me. Kat, do you ever feel guilty about accusing a guy of ordering innocent men to their

Re: [Brin-l] RE: Changeover... topic identifiers?

2002-09-22 Thread Ray Ludenia
Robert Seeberger wrote: In any case I have all the culture mail as maroon in my inbox. Easy to read the text in that color! G. What's wrong with puce? :-) Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [Brin-l] rapturism

2002-09-22 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote: Ray Ludenia wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: xponent Everyone Loves Raymond Maru rob Who's this Raymond character? Regards, Reinhold. OK, am I the only one who's experiencing a Night Court flashback? Not me! I presume you are referring to a TV program. Hope

Re: [Brin-l] rapturism

2002-09-23 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn Blankenship wrote: The word denigrating has such a negative ring to it People in the US have been fired from their jobs for using it properly because others who obviously did not know what the word means took offense because they thought it was related to that

Re: [Brin-l] Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If We Must

2002-09-23 Thread Ray Ludenia
Robert Seeberger wrote: Please note that I offered not a single word of criticism. I didnt comment on what you said at all. What I did was clarify what I saw in Rays comments. In reading those comments again, I think I could say to Ray that he could have been a bit more diplomatic also.

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Jeroen wrote: I am not at all confused. Rather, it is quite clear to me that many people attribute a certain meaning to the word anti-Semite that differs from what I believe to be its meaning. I stand corrected - you're not confused, you're deliberately acting

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-06 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 23:31 05-10-2002 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote about me: Not ONCE has he ever admitted to being wrong about ANYTHING. Do you know what the problem is with that blanket statement? I need to find only *one* message in which I admit to being wrong, in order to prove

Brin accused of being from another planet!?

2002-10-07 Thread Ray Ludenia
Excerpt from article: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/07/technology/07ZZAP.html?todaysheadlines Protesting the Big Brother Lens, Little Brother Turns an Eye Blind By JOHN MARKOFF snip That is not the view of a group of privacy advocates in Washington, who are suing the Metropolitan Police

Re: brin: war

2002-10-16 Thread Ray Ludenia
d.brin wrote: Moreover, I am all in favor of Pax Americana, which has led to vastly more human opportunity and happiness than any other 'pax', and which may lead to a world of Justice and Law. This may indeed be the case. However, I cannot for the life of me understand how so many Merkins

Re: brin: war

2002-10-16 Thread Ray Ludenia
I wrote: d.brin wrote: Moreover, I am all in favor of Pax Americana, which has led to vastly more human opportunity and happiness than any other 'pax', and which may lead to a world of Justice and Law. This may indeed be the case. However, I cannot for the life of me understand how so

Re: Brin: The Future of the World Re: brin: war

2002-10-23 Thread Ray Ludenia
Kevin Street wrote: John D. Giorgis reponded: ALL those allies?The UK, Australia, Spain, and Italy are all behind the US attack on Iraq - and those are just the ones that I have heard of. This is just my opinion, but I suspect that the majority of the people in those countries don't

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-25 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: That would mean that I am one of very few people on this list who have a *functioning* short-term memory... after I had forgotten to remove the word Brin from the subject header of one of my posts). ;-) ___

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-27 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: No one seems to care but you. If that is true, then I might just as well restore the previous content of the Main Page of Brin-L.com, as it appearently is quite accurate -- you know, the version that says that things like flame wars and personal attacks are

Re: The UN

2002-10-27 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 00:07 27-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: Further, given Iraq's history of playing cat and mouse, isn't it reasonable to have strict rules that will ensure that an inspection can be thorough? I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is that the

Re: Our Friends at the UN

2002-10-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
John D. Giorgis wrote: There's difference between giving the Cameroonians a *say*, and giving the despot of a tiny, one-party, banana republic the decisive vote on the morality of intervening in Iraq. I'd support the former, but right now, we're stuck with the latter - and find it fairly

Re: Dinging plans (was RE: test)

2002-11-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote: clarification of Peter Principle available upon request Not necessary in my case. The Principal of my school is called Peter Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Water conservation

2002-11-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
Much of Australia is currently in the grip of a major drought. Except the are I live, (South Gippsland in Victoria) is lush green so has not affected the local cockies (farmers) yet. Anyway, desperate times call for desperate measures... quoted from ABC News *Victorians urged to shower

Re: Water conservation

2002-11-02 Thread Ray Ludenia
Deborah Harrell wrote: The entire Western US, as well as parts of the East, are in drought. Here is a map: http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html A page containing info on the extent and map of rainfall deficiencies in Australia can be found at:

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-06 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:05:35PM +0530, Ritu Ko wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: Isn't it ironic that the world's largest democracy treats every else's concerns as a joke? ;) Touchy! One Indian poster *possibly* does this and you generalise this to a billion Indians???

Re: In Praise of Paper Ballots

2002-11-06 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: Even if you do everything manually, it is still not entirely transparent; once you deposit your ballot in the box, it is out of sight -- how can you be sure that someone on the counting team will not give your vote to an other candidate, or let your ballot disappear?

Re: NASA

2002-11-22 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: snip 5k post with no loss of content Jeroen, I hope you carefully consider everything you post to the list. I dread the day you write something that upsets yourself. The nonsensical tirades you would write to the list complaining about your (alleged)

Re: Filtering the Digests (Was: Re: Fwd: Moderation)

2002-12-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
Horn, John wrote: Pegasus Mail v4.0 has an option that claims to be able to pull apart a digest into its individual pieces. I've never tried it as I receive individual messages. But that's a possibility. Entourage also has the option of bursting digests into individual emails, but I have

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Which is why I think this will escalate to Jeroen's final ban - another symptom that the list is dying. The symptom that the list is dying is that yet again we are involved in endlessly discussing one particular person and his actions and other's reactions. Enough of

Re: Admin: Server access blocked

2002-12-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Things would be different if I were the list-tyrant. I would ban everybody who sent messages using the horrible imperial units So you admit that not all imperial units are horrible? Never thought I'd see the day! Ray. ___

Re: chainmail is evil, why it must be bob

2002-12-07 Thread Ray Ludenia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (( ))) ((( ))) very bad chainmail But a good eye-warper. % Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: understanding Lexmark business strategy

2002-12-07 Thread Ray Ludenia
Gary Nunn wrote: 4) What percentage of people do you think would actually buy a new printer rather than a new ink cartridge, even if it does save $5? Not sure, but I am cheap. Five bucks is five bucks. Just remove the cartridge at the checkout and leave the printer behind! Has anyone ever

Re: Official Statement

2002-12-08 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: I must have done something wrong somewhere along the way... :-) You don't have to keep apologising again and again. Try stopping these repetitive posts. HUGE GRIN Regards, Ray. ___

Re: Osama's letter to America

2002-12-08 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Just imagine that the only faces you ever get to see are those of bearded men . . . Hey, what's wrong with bearded men??? I resemble that remark. Anyway, why would you want to see bearded women?? Regards, Ray. ___

Kids (was Re: Silly mice )

2002-12-08 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I Told You Kids Not To Go Outside Our Back Yard Maru I wish mine would listen to this instruction! I spent about 3 hours chasing our new kid for miles up and down the road, through barbed wire and electric fences, up and down the hills (they're bloody steep around

Re: Official Statement

2002-12-08 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: I must agree with Jon; I think that there really should be some document that at least states a few basic things such as: - what kinds of behaviour will not be accepted - what steps can/will be taken in case something unacceptable happens - if sanctions are taken

Re: Kids (was Re: Silly mice )

2002-12-08 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 11:36 PM 12/8/02 +1100, Ray Ludenia wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I Told You Kids Not To Go Outside Our Back Yard Maru FWIW, kid is US slang for child. Two Peoples Divided By A Common Language Maru Same here, of course. As I said earlier, just kidding

Re: Kids (was Re: Silly mice )

2002-12-08 Thread Ray Ludenia
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 23:36 08-12-2002 +1100, Ray Ludenia wrote: Had to give up the chase, as I had school reports to write that just could not be delayed any further. Aha, so *that* is the latest excuse for being out of shape! GRIN Jeroen Why run when you can drive? van

Re: Scouted: Playboy models losing hourglass figures

2002-12-21 Thread Ray Ludenia
Jon Gabriel wrote: Playboy spokesman Bill Farley said: As time has gone on and women have become more athletic, more in the business world and more inclined to put themselves through fitness regimes, their bodies have changed, and we reflect that as well. But I would think that no one with

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-18 Thread Ray Ludenia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am doing my best to make my messages as unreadable as possilbe In that case, you'll have to try harder. They were much more unreadable in the past. You must be losing you touch. Regards, Ray. PS :-) ___

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-18 Thread Ray Ludenia
Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The guy mind doesn't believe in medical care. Guys will generally not seek medical treatment, for themselves or for others, except in clear-cut situations, such as decapitation. And even then, guys are not going to be

Re: Catholics Could Lose Seal of Confession

2003-01-28 Thread Ray Ludenia
Bradford DeLong wrote: Bradford DeLong wrote: But when the Knights Templar were suppressed by Philip the Fair of France and Pope Clement V in 1307, one of the charges was that the Templars confessed only to each other and not to other priests--so that nobody outside the order knew what

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: Oh, sorry, it seems I haven't mastered the EU technique of insulting and retreating. EU_mode [turns around and bends over] I fart in your general direction! [runs like mad, not to return to this subject] /EU_mode What an arsehole. Ray.

Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq

2003-02-07 Thread Ray Ludenia
http://www.ucomics.com/boondocks/2003/02/06/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Gentlemen, start your shavers!

2003-02-10 Thread Ray Ludenia
Dan Minette wrote: Since I have a beard, I was very curious to see why guys with beards would have more strokes. I've had it for around 29 years. :-) My facial fungus has been there 32 years now. One day I'm going to shock myself (and Maree) and find out what lies beneath it. Regards, Ray.

Re: mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated

2003-02-13 Thread Ray Ludenia
Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:48 AM Subject: mailman is evil, why it must be eradicated Nick Arnett wrote: Just noticed that myself... We

Re: EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance'

2003-02-20 Thread Ray Ludenia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia is correct. I'm more peace-loving than my government. I don't know how much of this has made it into the US media, but as much as it collides with Gautam's Euro-bashing, the Dutch government is quite happily supporting the US. Interesting data from a Gallup

Re: Speaking of Bottled Water...

2003-03-16 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 10:11:40PM +1100, R M Ludenia wrote: In all the posts in this thread, I have only seen mention of bottled water, city water and well (bore?) water. We are dependent on rain water run-off from the roof, collected in a 1 gallon (44Kl) tank.

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-17 Thread Ray Ludenia
iaamoac wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, now we are being hosted by leagin the US troops prepared^^ to carry out this resolution in the lurch in the Gulf. Typo correction:

Re: Language refreshers

2003-03-18 Thread Ray Ludenia
- Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I grew up hearing Quebecois and English (my first 5 words were in French..) thanks to a French^WFreedom-Canadian nanny. I studied French for 5 years in high-school (and a year in college). Today, I can read simple French

Re: Europe Unveils New Moon-Orbiting Craft

2003-04-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Horn, John wrote: You know, it's really nice having actual rocket scientists on this list. Especially ones who can explain stuff in such a way that non-scientists like me can actually understand it. Not only that, but we have so many of them that you may get an

Re: Some semi-good news

2003-04-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
John D. Giorgis wrote: My mom has always kept our china in a hutch. :) We used to keep our guinea-pigs in our hutch. Don't think they would have appreciated sharing it with the china. Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Are you a model citizen?

2003-06-06 Thread Ray Ludenia
Gary Nunn wrote: Gheeezzz Compared to the rest of y'all, I feel like The List Criminal. I had potentially 17 years in prison :-) Gary And I thought I was an innocent! You guys must be real goody two shoes. Years in prison: 17.5 Potential fine: £7000 Regards, Ray.

global attitudes project

2003-06-06 Thread Ray Ludenia
A very interesting report on attitudes in many countries towards the US, globalisation, democracy, justice, etc. There is plenty of food for thought here for all, regardless of personal political beliefs. Doesn't matter all that much about what is actually true, perceptions are in some ways even

Re: Human Sweat wasRE: Political Compass

2003-05-29 Thread Ray Ludenia
Deborah Harrell wrote: This study found increased concentrations of manganese in an exposed population of Australian aboriginals,[what do they prefer to call themselves, you Down Under? Me (we?) downunder say: they prefer to be known as Koories. Regards, Ray.

Re: Pregnancy update

2003-05-29 Thread Ray Ludenia
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both twin girls are fine so far. Still more congratulations from way down south! Their parents, on the other hand, are in a bit of shock at the news. You may laugh, but here's a secret passed on to me by an aunt to her success

Re: The Geek Test

2003-05-29 Thread Ray Ludenia
Horn, John wrote: The Geek Test: http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html I'm not as of a geek as I thought: 29.19% - total geek. Bit more of a geek than I thought (ticked all possibly applicable boxes). 28.79684^*($#% bloody French keyboard! Total-Geek. Ray.

Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-03 Thread Ray Ludenia
Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again On 1 Jun 2003 at 20:58, Robert Seeberger wrote: I

Re: Brin: Brin 9/11 statement shown accurate again

2003-06-03 Thread Ray Ludenia
d.brin wrote: What's stupid is the notion that cowboy six shooters are a good model for the coming century. That's just plain dopey. Can't argue with this last paragraph. We have come a long way since then. We have so much more advanced firepower available nowadays at a lower cost than ever

Re: Use of cameras

2003-06-04 Thread Ray Ludenia
Chad Cooper wrote: -Original Message- From: Russell Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem in Australia is that they have now set the tolerance on these cameras down to 3kmh over the limit in some states, so if youre endangering all around you by travelling on a multi-lane

Re: Use of cameras

2003-06-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Chad Cooper wrote: What about this idea for a start. Each speed zone has three speed limit values, based upon vehicle class. Each class is represented by a symbol, like a diamond, triangle and circle. Each class of vehicle is defined through criteria such as weight, brakeing distance, use,

Re: Use of cameras

2003-06-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote: One feature that the ones I saw more recently had was, if you were going at or under 5 miles above the speed limit, the numbers were displayed in green, but if you were going over 5 miles above the speed limit, they were displayed in red. For the non-color-blind, this

Re: The Borg are coming!

2003-06-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Jan Coffey wrote: Look in at the members page, I'm the guy hovering over Greg Benford ;-) Seems I was so thrilled to meet him I followed him around like a puppy asking silly questions just to be communicating with the man. GB was a most impressive guest of honour at Aussiecon a few years ago.

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Ray Ludenia
David Hobby wrote: Identify, for 2 points: I mean, it's one thing saying you've got the best god, but sayin' it's the ONLY real one is a bit of a cheek, in my opinion. Hairy Patch-it's Crappe Jugular? Regards, Ray. ___

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-12 Thread Ray Ludenia
Deborah Harrell wrote: How many here who consider themselves religious, spiritual, or otherwise somehow connected to the Divine have had that feeling of universal connectedness or sacred presence (drug experiences disqualified in my book) -- and how many here who consider themselves atheist

Re: Interpreting language (was RE: A friendly request JVB)

2003-06-16 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The current spate of multiple copies of multiple messages to the private accounts of everyone on the list started after _one_ mention of Jeroen in a list message. Is it realistic to expect that no one will ever mention his name again, even in a neutral or even

Re: Interpreting language (was RE: A friendly request JVB)

2003-06-16 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ray Ludenia wrote: Suggestion to Nick: Set up a filter that automatically rejects any message with that particular keyword in it. Duh.. I mean any message to the list, not to Nick personally. Probably reduce list traffic by half, but would remove an awful lot of aggravation as new people

Re: Interpreting language (was RE: A friendly request JVB)

2003-06-16 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:26:56PM +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: Suggestion to Nick: Set up a filter that automatically rejects any message with that particular keyword in it. Probably reduce list traffic by half, Nick, I am against this. Me too! Regards, Ray

Re: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-23 Thread Ray Ludenia
Jan Coffey wrote: Atheists tend to be a rather logical lot (whether you agree with their logic is another matter) and when they perceive a religious person (especial one who is an intellectual or a scientist) having such illogical beliefs it can get quite annoying. Like if a stanch Christian

Re: Catholicism Re: james ossuary a fake - scientists

2003-06-24 Thread Ray Ludenia
Reggie Bautista wrote: The primary differences between Catholics and Fundamentalists, as I see it, are what one believes about whether the Bible is to be interpreted literally, and whether the Bible is the only viable source for spiritual info. (By the way, you could probably find lots of

Strine

2003-06-29 Thread Ray Ludenia
Have any of youse septic blokes or shielas come across instances of ridgy didge use of strine? http://minirich.twoday.net/stories/8088/ BUGGER! Strine -- Australian slang -- is invading American speech, says Tom Dalzell, the author of two books on U.S. slang. Thanks to more Australian movies

Re: Birth Rates Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
Gautam Mukunda wrote (about birth rates): I think that probably has something to do with it. My best guess, though, is that the main reason is that the US is just so much wealthier than other countries, even other industrialized countries. It's just incredibly expensive to have kids in a

Re: Comparision of ecconomic growth

2003-06-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
iaamoac wrote: Moreover, hopefully by then Social Security will be means-tested, forcing those who have saved to not realy upon the efforts of those 1.5 workers for sustenance. The implication being that those who have saved should be penalised for their thrift? As a general principle I agree

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-07-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: A heterosexual couple who is simply cohabiting, frex, can break up and go their separate ways at any time, whereas if they are legally married, they must go through the often messy process of obtaining a legal divorce, dividing up the property, etc. OTOH, because

Re: Speaking of sports Re: Why we cast novels

2003-07-09 Thread Ray Ludenia
Bryon Daly wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, I've been watching the rerun of TDF coverate on OLM from 7:30 to 10 in the evening, but I won't be able to tonight. If anyone who is following the Tour wants to privately shoot me info on how Lance's team does today, or tell me

Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missilestohaveglobalreach)

2003-07-09 Thread Ray Ludenia
Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: I've already re-posted my original question from my original post, and I asked about the _structure_ as a basis for designing a cable of _carbon nanotubules_ -- although the idea of a composite seems

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread Ray Ludenia
Robert Seeberger wrote: Gardner is a quite good journeyman writer. Expendable is pretty good, but its sequels are even more fun. I read this recently and enjoyed it. Care to give the titles of the sequels??? Regards, Ray. ___

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long run.) I have known a number of

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-19 Thread Ray Ludenia
Gautam Mukunda --- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And please stop these little digs at the end. If you'll look back at my post, I managed to refrain. I even called the US President Mr. Bush, which took great forbearance.) If it takes you great forbearance to display that

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-19 Thread Ray Ludenia
Gautam Mukunda The war has barely begun. We are, at most, at the end of the beginning. Finally, an aimless occupation? Less than half a year after the end of the war, Good bit of logic. Have it both ways then Regards, Ray. ___

Re: Iraq's Nuclear Weapons - Clinton's '98 Statement

2003-07-24 Thread Ray Ludenia
David Hobby No, it doesn't. I read all three quotes as We will attack all of the nasty weapons that Iraq has. If wombats were credible WMD, he would have included them too. : ) They certainly are! You should see the holes they dig. :-) They also love to leave their turds on the tee-markers

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-24 Thread Ray Ludenia
Gautam Mukunda --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But of course this statement was carefully crafted. The CIA could not confirm the allegation so the speech writers found language that the CIA could live with. So this was not simply a statement of fact. The speech writer came up with a phrase

Re: Iraq's Nuclear Weapons - Clinton's '98 Statement

2003-07-25 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson Ray Ludenia wrote: David Hobby No, it doesn't. I read all three quotes as We will attack all of the nasty weapons that Iraq has. If wombats were credible WMD, he would have included them too. : ) They certainly are! You should see the holes they dig. :-) They also

Re: Who Are the US's Allies? Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
John D. Giorgis wrote: And despite you snide remarks about '''fluffing up, there is nothing fluffed up about calling Japan and Australia major players in foreign affairs. two glaring omissions from Bob's list. Australia a major player in foreign affairs??? Do you perhaps say this

Re: Irregulars question: Milky Way

2003-08-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
Doug Pensinger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: However, there's at least one spiral galaxy which apparently rotates backwards: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2002/release_2002_33.html Must be in the Southern Hemisphere. Nah, only if it's upside-down. Regards, Ray.

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective list-subscribers

2003-08-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
Jan Coffey wrote: Wouldn't you have a chip on your shoulder after a while as well? You know, having a chip on your shoulder doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. Actually, having a chip on both shoulders is better. It keeps one balanced. Choc-chips are good. Regards, Ray.

Re: Irregulars question: Milky Way

2003-08-02 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:45 AM 8/2/03 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: However, there's at least one spiral galaxy which apparently rotates backwards: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2002/release_2002_33.html Must be in the Southern

Re: NYT: Weapons of Mass Confusion

2003-08-02 Thread Ray Ludenia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This speculation raises several questions in my mind: if Saddam destroyed his nukes - WHY DIDN'T HE TELL US??? That's what we wanted, after all, what we were demanding, the ostensible reason for the invasion. Why do what he was supposed to but not gain any benefit

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective list-subscribers

2003-08-02 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote: Ray Ludenia wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Wouldn't you have a chip on your shoulder after a while as well? You know, having a chip on your shoulder doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. Actually, having a chip on both shoulders is better. It keeps one

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-11 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: C) everyone [who wants to own a gun and who has not been convicted of a violent crime or diagnosed with a serious mental or emotional illness] should [be allowed to choose to] have a gun. Can we all agree with that? Most definitely not! Anyone who wants to own a

Re: _Politics,_was_[L3]_Re:_fight_the_evil_of  price_discrimination

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Ludenia
Jan Coffey wrote: If everyone has a gun, that power is balanced. If every country has nukes, power is balanced too. Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective list-subscribers

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:10:36PM +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: If you have memory problems, one technique you might find useful is to make written notes. No, written notes are slow and not easily searchable. Digital notes stored on a computer are far superior. Sorry

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective list-subscribers

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 05:36:17PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: Toung pushed forward, mouth open, eyes rolled up, head shaking and bobing from side to sidemaru Do you ever post anything worth anything? I can't recall the last time I saw a post of yours that had

testing

2003-08-26 Thread Ray Ludenia
William wrote: I've sent email to the list on Sunday (about not getting any email) but haven't seen anything in my inbox from the list since Saturday. I can see that a few messages have been added to the archive since then, but I haven't seen any of them in email. In fact the last list

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-29 Thread Ray Ludenia
Doug Pensinger wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: Chomsky just speaks to elites - like you. That's where his power comes from. I can see we're going to need a definition of elite before we continue this discussion. I don't know how I could be considered elite in any sense of the word.

Productivity vs efficiency

2003-09-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
There was a discussion on the list a while ago about US versus European productivity. Just came across this article in the local paper with some relevant stats and comments. It makes many of the points that were mentioned in the list discussion. Regards, Ray.

Re: Productivity vs efficiency

2003-09-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: That, and in Belgium you usually get paid an all in salery. So if you finish early the rest of the hours are considered a bonus. I for one alway found that extremely motivating. Wow, wouldn't that be fantastic! Most jobs here in Aus with a fixed salary are

Re: Information Request

2003-09-24 Thread Ray Ludenia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best way to Synchronicity strikes again! Three seconds before reading this post, I had typed in a message I just sent What is the best way to do this. Earlier while reading Bova's Moonwar and listening to The Who, as I was reading the phrase deaf, dumb and

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
Jan Coffey wrote: --- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, having said that, has America committed crimes? Duh! In protecting our farmers, for example, our price supports have wounded 3rd world farmers exactly BECAUSE we refused to let then tie their economy to ours! Ah, we can

Re: a new Br!n: book review

2003-10-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:33:48PM +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: Australia has tied its economy to US, In what way? Is the Australian currency pegged to the US dollar? I've noticed that the Australian stock market is one of the least correlated with the US stock market

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
d.brin wrote: There is another factor. Every nation contains some people who remember that the nation bears responsibility for feeding itself. There is a wish never to completely abandon the land. America is down to the lowest fraction of farmers since we left the caves. I imagine this is

Re: a new Br!n: book review

2003-10-04 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:36 PM 10/1/03 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: The A$ is certaily not pegged to the US$. When I visited the States in 2001, we got US$0.52 for our dollar, yet it is now worth US$68. The Australian dollar really increased in value by 13,077% relative to the US

Re: a new Br!n: book review

2003-10-04 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:03 AM 10/5/03 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: PS: Does my comment remind anyone that we seem to be missing some of the picky arguments and linguistic contortions of the past on the list? Um . . . I've been busy recently. Perhaps the other pickers of nits have also

Re: a new Br!n: book review

2003-10-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:41 AM 10/5/03 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:03 AM 10/5/03 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote: PS: Does my comment remind anyone that we seem to be missing some of the picky arguments and linguistic contortions of the past on the list? Um

Re: When I Was Your Age... (was Re: RE: Brin: rejuveniles)

2003-10-14 Thread Ray Ludenia
Doug Pensinger wrote: Do you remember the math machines - kind of mechanical computers - that they used to have. If I recall correctly, you would type in a number pull a lever, type in an operation and another number and pull the lever and it would calculate the answer. My Dad used to take

Re: iTunes for Windo$e

2003-10-20 Thread Ray Ludenia
Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote: So what was it? Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the questions, then maybe we can get somewhere. Back to the netherlander sagas perhaps? Ray.

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