Andrew Crystall wrote:
This is as bad as Unisys attempting to extort people
into paying licensing fees for using .GIF images.
difference - for making *programs* which can *create* GIF images.
That's the difference.
I don't see anything immoral in Unisys trying to
get some money
At 05:01 AM 1/24/2003 +, you wrote:
On 23 Jan 2003 at 19:33, Deborah Harrell wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/01/10/denmark.environment.ap/
In his 2001 book, The Skeptical Environmentalist,
Danish statistician Bjoern Lomborg said concerns about
melting ice caps,
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:51:29AM -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote:
You told us? Told us what? That you believe that scientific inquiry
should be based on behavior and not facts? That a Committee can pass
judgement on a book without disproving any facts in that book? That
someone who has a dissenting
On 24 Jan 2003 at 8:43, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
This is as bad as Unisys attempting to extort people
into paying licensing fees for using .GIF images.
difference - for making *programs* which can *create* GIF images.
That's the difference.
I don't
On 24 Jan 2003 at 5:51, Kevin Tarr wrote:
At 05:01 AM 1/24/2003 +, you wrote:
On 23 Jan 2003 at 19:33, Deborah Harrell wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/01/10/denmark.environment.ap/
In his 2001 book, The Skeptical Environmentalist,
Danish statistician Bjoern Lomborg
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:24:41PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
No. I TOLD you he was no scientist. That he was a activist for a
cause.
I TOLD you that there were LEGITIMATE CONCERNS with the way he used
data.
I TOLD you that his work was NOT sufficiently peer-reviewed.
How about a
On 24 Jan 2003 at 7:41, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:24:41PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
No. I TOLD you he was no scientist. That he was a activist for a
cause.
I TOLD you that there were LEGITIMATE CONCERNS with the way he used
data.
I TOLD you that his work
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:03:01PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Excuse me? He's just been slammed because he hasn't used proper
scientific methodology.
Excuse me? Where has it been established scientifically that he hasn't
used proper scientific methodology? And where has it been established
On 24 Jan 2003 at 8:07, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:03:01PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Excuse me? He's just been slammed because he hasn't used proper
scientific methodology.
Excuse me? Where has it been established scientifically that he hasn't
used proper
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:25:49PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Excuse me? Where has it been established scientifically that he hasn't
used proper scientific methodology? And where has it been established
scientifically that his points, carefully elaborated and in print for
all to see,
On 24 Jan 2003 at 9:05, Erik Reuter wrote:
You are, quite frankly, trolling.
That is my standard response to passive-aggressive comments like
yours. But let's try something else that could be more productive, if
you are up to it.
Uhh, as I said you don't twist my words on other subjects
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:20:58PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
I simply don't have the time, sorry. Or the inclination to go over
ground which would covered far better by an environmental scientist.
Which I am not, even if I do have access to a large archive of data.
Translation:
1)
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/01/10/denmark.environment.ap/
In his 2001 book, The Skeptical Environmentalist,
Danish statistician Bjoern Lomborg said concerns
about
melting ice caps, deforestation, acid rain were
exaggerated. He claimed
On 24 Jan 2003 at 9:27, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:20:58PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
I simply don't have the time, sorry. Or the inclination to go over
ground which would covered far better by an environmental scientist.
Which I am not, even if I do have access to a
http://dailybreeze.com/content/bog/nmbogert19.html
Doubting Thomas offers her press veterans take on state of presidency
As veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas signed my program
Thursday evening at the Society of Professional Journalists annual
awards banquet, I said, First time I
I've been on this list for two days and received about 125 posts, most in
mid-stream it seems.
The Nomination Form for the Torcon 3 2003 Hugos is available on the Conjose
2002 site and in the Torcon 3 PR 4. I'm about to send my nominations in.
How many on the list think Kiln People is worthy of
I got spam today, an ad for Norton Anti-Virus, and the from claimed to be
Andre Norton.
This cheesed me off enough to complain to a group containing enough people
to understand why I'm cheesed off. :P
Julia
p.s. anyone, recommend one of her books to me if you'd like, OK?
At 12:24 24-01-2003 +, Andy Crystall wrote:
Don't worry, I'll take myself off the list
Is that a threat or a promise?
Jeroen Promises, promises... van Baardwijk
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At 13:25 24-01-2003 +, Andy Crystall wrote:
Everyone twists what you say. Aww, poor Andy.
No...three people on this list in the past have. And you only in this
particular debate. (The other two are Jeroen and The Fool, for
reference).
I checked my posts in which I replied to your
It appears that the server was acting up, though I can't quite see what
happened. For now, at least, it seems to be back to normal.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Erik Reuter
...
Maybe someone would volunteer to referee the debate?
What do you say, Andy, can you handle a scientific debate on the issue?
Erik,
I don't think this is intended to be a place for
On 24 Jan 2003 at 10:08, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Erik and Andy,
I didn't read the book, and I make it a point never to bash or praise
texts unless I've read 'em. However, if source materials are what
y'all are looking for This is excerpted text (actually, it's
pretty much all of it!) all of
Jon Gabriel wrote:
:)
http://gprojects.web.aol.com/tso/quiz_standalone.html
entertainment sim... I always new I had a flair for drama. ;o)
Sonja
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Did it break for real this time?
Kevin T.
Plan B
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I'm trying to figure out if our server is wonky...Did
anyone get my earlier message re: 'sorry I stepped
into a *pile I didn't know was there'?
I've only gotten 16 posts today [maybe channeling
Ronn's evil twin? ;) ], but other lists are coming
through.
GSV Ping
In a message dated 1/22/2003 10:30:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Out of curiosity, do you watch as many Yankee games when they are 30 games
out as when they are in a pennant race? Did you follow the Knicks closely
when they were out of the playoffs?
I have not
I am sorry that I was unaware of the prior debate; I
wasn't a member then. Had I known this particular
text was a sore point, I would not have brought it up;
I happened to read a snippet in my science digest re:
the committee, and did a minigoogle which turned up
the article I posted.
If someone
In a message dated 1/24/2003 9:00:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just trying to
get a feel from the list.
I'd keep your legs crossed when you type that.
No pun goes out tended with this grop.er group.
William Taylor
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What are all these
Bryon Daly wrote:
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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stuf). I
needed replacement parts for well used items of theirs and they both sent them to
me
without any charge after a quick e-mail exchange.
A woman with a brain tumor was arrested when she went in to pick up her
prescription painkiller.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L22362733
Julia
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My mind reacted with 'list-mama' and 'list-daddy' I'll not elaborate on the
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Sonja
Horn, John wrote:
I swear this mailing list is the most dysfunctional family I have ever seen.
Sometimes I can't tell if you all* are serious about these things or sitting
back and
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got spam today, an ad for Norton Anti-Virus, and
the from claimed to be Andre Norton.
This cheesed me off enough to complain to a group
containing enough people
to understand why I'm cheesed off. :P
Julia
p.s. anyone, recommend one
In a message dated 1/24/2003 10:25:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I also went to his website and read the commission report. Quoting a
popular science magazine as one's primary source? Any
physicist who would
do that would be laughed out of the room.
But the SA
Well, looks like we had a totally unintended break from brin-l for the last
10 or 12 hours. Those of you experiencing significant withdrawl symptoms
may now relieve yourselves. Or something like that. I don't know, I'm so
dang tired after not one, but two major family crises in the last three
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
p.s. anyone, recommend one of her books to me if
you'd like, OK?
I really liked _Breed To Come_, _The Jargoon Pard_ and
the series with Kerovan and Joisan. Her collaborated
'Trillium' series I found less-than-stellar,
R!
I hit send* when I meant to hit save as a draft* -
wanted to rework it a bit, perhaps delete some of the
personal bits...
Oh well. See the
frequently-fuzzy-in-direction-while-work-is-in-progress
convolutions of my mind...
Debbi
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Do you
In a message dated 1/24/2003 9:17:50 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, looks like we had a totally unintended break from brin-l for the last
10 or 12 hours. Those of you experiencing significant withdrawl symptoms
may now relieve yourselves.
You do and you
--- G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been on this list for two days and received
about 125 posts, most in mid-stream it seems.
snip
BTW, of the 125 posts, not one mentions the works of
the Killer B's or
Baxter or Vinge, all of whom are listed on the sign
up page. Has this list
At 03:01 PM 1/24/2003 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
This is the worst president ever, she said. He is the worst president
in all of American history.
Apparently Bill Clinton never sexually harassed her..
JDG
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Deborah Harrell wrote:
I am sorry that I was unaware of the prior debate; I
wasn't a member then.
I wouldn't be sorry at all, if I was you. It's a perfectly legitimate
and interesting topic and I don't remember any massive flame war in a
previous thread about the book in question, or any
In a message dated 1/24/2003 9:35:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was told that He said (at some long-ago time
in the beginning of list-time) that All is Brin.
All...all..all..h.
A naturalist's Ode To Uplift.
All things bright and beautiful
At 03:01 PM 1/24/03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
The Fool wrote:
This is the worst president ever, she said. He is the worst president
in all of American history.
The woman who has known eight of them wasn't joking.
I couldn't agree more. He's the Anti-American President and we'll be years
At 10:51 AM 1/24/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
I got spam today, an ad for Norton Anti-Virus, and the from claimed to be
Andre Norton.
Sounds more like the work of _Ed_ Norton . . .
This cheesed me off enough to complain to a group containing enough people
to understand why I'm cheesed
Hi George!
A pleasure to meet you. Welcome to Brin-L.
You might want to check out Brin-L.com to get a feel for the list.
To answer your questions, completely out of order: :)
Ongoing Brinlist conversations center a great deal on politics,
technology, privacy and scientific issues. We
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention (thanks Debbi!) that I have a somewhat
personal obsession with seeing Brin-creations on Iron Chef. To wit:
Tandu Teriyaki
Gubru Goulash
Juicy Jophur Julienne
Soaked Soro over Spaghetti
Tytlal Tots
Hoonish Hamburgers
Gorilla Grits with Ghee and Gorgonzola
Kiqui Sushi
At 05:03 PM 1/24/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
I am sorry that I was unaware of the prior debate; I
wasn't a member then. Had I known this particular
text was a sore point, I would not have brought it up;
I happened to read a snippet in my science digest re:
the committee, and did a
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Listref] Environment
I am sorry that I was unaware of the prior debate; I
wasn't a member then. Had I known this particular
text was
Not trying to pry -- but I do hope everything's ok and settled for you
and your family.
Jon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Nick Arnett
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Whoops!!
Well, looks like we
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Helen Thomas on bush
At 03:01 PM 1/24/03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
The Fool wrote:
This is the
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was told that He said (at some long-ago time
in the beginning of list-time) that All is
Brin.
All...all..all..h.
A naturalist's Ode To Uplift.
All things bright and beautiful
All creatures great and
At 12:21 AM 1/25/03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention (thanks Debbi!) that I have a somewhat
personal obsession with seeing Brin-creations on Iron Chef. To wit:
Tandu Teriyaki
Gubru Goulash
Juicy Jophur Julienne
Soaked Soro over Spaghetti
Tytlal Tots
Hoonish Hamburgers
At 12:51 AM 1/25/03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Helen Thomas on bush
At 03:01 PM 1/24/03 -0800, Doug
Nick Arnett wrote:
Well, looks like we had a totally unintended break
from brin-l for the last 10 or 12 hours. Those of
you experiencing significant withdrawl symptoms may
now relieve yourselves.
Ah yes...
Or something like that. I don't know, I'm so dang
tired after not one, but two
In a message dated 1/24/2003 10:22:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention (thanks Debbi!) that I have a somewhat
personal obsession with seeing Brin-creations on Iron Chef. To wit:
Tandu Teriyaki
Gubru Goulash
Juicy Jophur Julienne
G. D. Akin wrote:
I've been on this list for two days and received about 125 posts, most in
mid-stream it seems.
The Nomination Form for the Torcon 3 2003 Hugos is available on the Conjose
2002 site and in the Torcon 3 PR 4. I'm about to send my nominations in.
How many on the list think Kiln
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