[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] occupancy factors for alternate conformations and alternate ligands

2022-11-29 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Mike, My gut feeling is that the accuracy will be around 10%. However it will depend very much how far the two conformation overlap, or not overlap and how good the data is. If there are large non-overlapping regions, accuracy may be better. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Low resolution and high anisotropy

2022-10-24 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Shenyuan, I have two suggestions: 1. Is your protein a single or a multi-domain protein? If it is a multi-domain protein, you should search with the individual domains. 2. Given the low resolution, high anisotropy and expected large number of molecules in the asymmetric unit, you may

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] mutate Methionine to Norleucine in Coot.

2022-10-20 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Jiang, It could have a lot of causes. What I would first check is that the chainID of the NLE is the same as from the surrounding protein, that the new NLE has the same residue number as the deleted MET. I would also check that the position within the coordinate file is the same as the previo

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Fragmented Chains after Automated Rebuilding

2022-10-06 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Shawn, I am not aware of an automated way to merge all fragments into a single consistent peptide chain. What I would do is to look at the map and the built fragments in coot and switch the symmetry on with a large radius, e.g. 20-30A and see if you can find a set of fragments (including s

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] PAIREF, Anisotropy and STARANISO

2022-10-05 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Martin, The concept of systematic absences is usually used for absences caused by the crystal packing, e.g. glide planes etc. I guess that what you meant are absences due to anisotropic cutoff. In the past, to get an Rmerge is low as possible, people would cut there data at 2sigma, or even

[ccp4bb] AW: Multiplicity is more than 20

2022-09-20 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Prasun, As others have pointed out, the higher the multiplicity, the better, so I would be happy about it and not worry. Concerning the higher Rwork in the inner shell, what are the resolution limits of this shell? Are there any ice-rings within these resolution limits? Otherwise I would che

[ccp4bb] AW: Help with isomer ligand from PDB database

2022-09-19 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Marion, If you read in your corrected .cif file in Coot or your refinement program, it will override the (default) CCP4 .cif file. You can also correct the installed CCP4 .cif file. I once did this. However, these changes are lost when you update the CCP4 installation, so best is to ask th

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Making bonds

2022-08-09 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Cryo EM, In general, if you bring the two atoms at approximatively the correct distance and do a real space refinement or regularization, a bond should be generated. However, there are caveats: 1. Do the nucleotides belong to the same chain? If they belong to different chains, they will

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Regarding the correct space group identification

2022-07-29 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
that point group). > >Please let me know if any other information is required. > >With best regards, >Sayan Saha. > > >On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 1:26 PM Schreuder, Herman /DE < >herman.schreu...@sanofi.com<mailto:herman.schreu...@sanofi.com>> wrote: > >&

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Regarding the correct space group identification

2022-07-28 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
: Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2022 15:17 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the correct space group identification Dear Sir, The crystal-to-detector distance was set to 190 mm. Yes, multiple diffractions seem to be present. We have not yet tried Zanuda on

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Regarding the correct space group identification

2022-07-28 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
you complete the refinement in P1? Best regards, Herman Von: Sayan Saha Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2022 11:43 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the correct space group identification Dear Sir, 1. There are no ice-rings. However

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Regarding the correct space group identification

2022-07-28 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Sayan, If a subunit is correctly oriented, but the translation is incorrect, density for a ligand may still show up in the binding site of the protein. It might be that one of the 2-fold axes, you think is crystallographic, is in fact non crystallographic and a few Angstroms away from the

[ccp4bb] AW: Determining space group

2022-07-22 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Monika, I would process the data using the point group information ignoring any possible screw axes, e.g. in space group P222, where the true space group might be P212121. The next step depends on how you plan to solve the structure. You mention that there is no cryo structure, do you mean

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Ligand occupancy refinement

2022-03-03 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
PS: this does not work for very small atoms, e.g. waters. Here I let the temperature factor take care of the occupancy as well. Von: Schreuder, Herman /DE Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. März 2022 16:23 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: AW: [ccp4bb] Ligand occupancy refinement Dear Ankanksha, The

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Ligand occupancy refinement

2022-03-03 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Ankanksha, The ligand is either present, or it is not present. It cannot be that some atoms are present and others not. For ligands, I always use a single group occupancy using the program Buster from global phasing. In my hands, this always works. There is a correlation between occupancy

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] MR solution not working

2022-03-03 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Shubhashish, How many molecules do you assume are in the asymmetric unit? You may have a very high solvent content and by trying to find multiple molecules, you spoil your solution. Also, did you do a thermal shift assay to make sure your protein is properly folded? Best, Herman Von: CCP4 b

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] question using a model from a multiple model PDB file using Phaser

2021-12-10 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Yong, Why make an ensemble when you don't want to search with and ensemble? You could run separate phaser jobs, one after the other, with your search models. I guess that this is what is meant by "SERIAL". Maybe Phaser has an option to do this, but it is also not difficult to write a small s

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] COOT RSR

2021-11-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
: Montag, 22. November 2021 22:09 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] COOT RSR What's the difference between a dummy water and a real one? Paul On 22/11/2021 14:34, Schreuder, Herman /DE wrote: Dear Paul, I agree with Oliver and Norbert, in the early phases of refin

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] COOT RSR

2021-11-22 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Paul, I agree with Oliver and Norbert, in the early phases of refinement, when a lot of rebuilding has to be done, the coot RSR is not very helpful and in general I leave it to buster do refine the rebuilt regions. Knowing now that (dummy) waters may be the culprit, I will remove them. How

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] MrBUMP for cryo-EM

2021-11-05 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Adam, Thank you for your response. Using the pdblocal keyword, I was able to run MrBUMP. Also the cryo keyword was recognized, but then the mode of operation was set to "MODELS" and only search models were generated. From your email, I understand that I will have to wait for ccp4 update 017

[ccp4bb] MrBUMP for cryo-EM

2021-11-04 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Community, I just came accross a paper on the use of MrBUMP to fit pdb models to cryo-EM maps: https://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?S2059798321009165 However, it turned out that the program tries to download coordinates directly from the pdb, which our firewall does not allow. Is there a

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] what would be the best metric to asses the quality of a mtz file?

2021-10-28 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Murpholino, What was the reason of trying all these different processing methods? I, and I guess most other crystallographers will process the data using a standard procedure and if the results are good, will not try a myriad of other processing methods. If it is to get most out of a poorl

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Protein's C-terminal neutral

2021-09-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Rohit, Do you mean that the residues after your "C-terminus" have been deleted because there is no convincing electron density for them? In that case, a charged carboxylate at the N-terminus is incorrect and you should delete the OXT atom. Alternatively, you could add one residue at the C-

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Phosphatase enzymatic assay

2021-09-16 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
It may also be possible to separate the different phosphorylated forms on an isoelectric focusing gel. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Patrick Loll Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. September 2021 15:12 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Phosphatase enzymatic assay Phos-

[ccp4bb] AW: Antwort: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Antwort: Re: [ccp4bb] chain on 2-fold axis?

2021-09-01 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
adopt the same conformation, I would assume statistical disorder and not twinning. My 2 cts, Herman Von: mi...@bioc.uzh.ch Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. August 2021 17:46 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Antwort: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Antwort: Re: [ccp4bb

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] A "funny" thing related to AlphaFold2 ....

2021-08-27 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Nick, I had just looked at a pdb downloaded from the alphafold server without problems. However, then I realized that I had looked at the alphafold model after I had it superimposed on my own structure. Loading the alphafoldmodel directly in coot failed for me as well. By looking into the

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Antwort: Re: [ccp4bb] chain on 2-fold axis?

2021-08-27 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
have different twin fractions, my bet is that the twin supporters are right. Best, Herman Von: Lijun Liu Gesendet: Freitag, 27. August 2021 15:57 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Antwort: Re: [ccp4bb] chain on 2-fold axis? Dear Herman

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Antwort: Re: [ccp4bb] chain on 2-fold axis?

2021-08-27 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
ecial position. If the swapping of the extra chain influences the sublattice P32 (or C2 or P1, as pointed out by Kay) twinned to P3221 might be the better description. All the best, Peer On 27.08.2021 10:56, Schreuder, Herman /DE wrote: > > Dear Peer and Eleanor, > > This is indeed what

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Antwort: Re: [ccp4bb] chain on 2-fold axis?

2021-08-27 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Peer and Eleanor, This is indeed what I am suspecting: If the "twinning operator" in P32 puts 4 out of 5 protein chains on top of symmetry mates, is the "true" space group then P32, with 5 twinned chains, or P3221 with 4 normal chains and 1 chain on a special position? I would vote for the

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] chain on 2-fold axis?

2021-08-26 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Peer, Normally, if one defines some residues with an occupancy below 1.0, the nonbonding contact restraints with other residues are switched off. It is already some time ago, but if I recall correctly, I had similar problems that nonbonding contact restraints were not switched off for residu

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Ana, If this histidine is part of the active site, you may want to look into the catalytic mechanism to see if this histidine could react with something like a malonate. Active site residues can do amazing things that normal residues cannot. If something from your protease inhibitor cocktail

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] how to fix helices-sheets getting converted to coil,

2021-08-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Firdous, In general, display programs use the HELIX/SHEET records in the pdb and when these are missing, the programs generate the secondary structure themselves. If these HELIX/SHEET records are present for some part of the structure, but are missing for other parts, these other parts will s

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Problems with crystals diffracting

2021-07-27 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Rakesh, The first question I have is: why do the crystals dissolve after some time? Did you use a ligand for crystallization that might be turned-over by the protein? What I would do first in your case is to try to find a stabilizing buffer. Since you have obtained nice-looking crystals, ther

[ccp4bb] AW: Strange indexing problem

2021-07-05 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Rob, Wat is the Matthews number, would it fit with a very low percentage solvent, or would it not fit at all? What happens if you superimpose a tetramer on your dimer? Best, Herman Von: Robert S Phillips Gesendet: Montag, 5. Juli 2021 16:32 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Betreff: Re: Strange

[ccp4bb] AW: Strange indexing problem

2021-07-05 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Rob, Your screen shot shows a large empty region with difference density for the second half of the tetramer, so the my guess is that you have a tetramer in the asymmetric unit, but that your molrep program only found a dimer. Would a tetramer fit in the asymmetric unit? If you have a tetr

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] superpose crystal objects in CCP4MG or other software

2021-06-02 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Stefano, I do not know if it is possible, but as a workaround, you could first expand your object by crystallographic symmetry and then do the superposition. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Stefano Trapani Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 14:31 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] sugestions on weak diffracting protein crystals

2021-05-18 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Deepak, the cryoprotection may destroy the diffraction. I would also try diffraction at room temperature, using special sleeves to prevent dehydration. With 20% PEG400, you could also try to freeze the crystals without using additional cryoprotectant. If you are lucky, it may work. Best, H

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] High Rs

2021-04-01 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Sam, The first thing that would come to my mind would be ice rings, but since you said you don't have them, there must be another reason for the high Rs. Zanuda will give you back the space group you used for MR and maybe a higher symmetry space group, but the program cannot be used to conf

[ccp4bb] crystallizing fusion proteins

2021-03-15 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Bulletin Board, Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but we are struggling with a receptor domain that expresses well as a fusion protein, but gets lost the moment it is cleaved from the fusion partner. It could be that the receptor domain is not or misfolded, but it could also be a s

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Can twinning be seen in the diffraction pattern?

2021-03-12 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Marina, A lot can happen with twinning andthe crystallization process does not always adhere to rules written in text books. The first thing I would do is to look at the predicted spots to see if the "split" spots are predicted as single spots (and would then really be split), or if they

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] NCS/Pseudo-symmetry

2021-02-26 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Bashir, At the end of your log file, you get a warning message that you have 87% solvent, which is highly unlikely and a suggestion to search for more molecules. Did you try to search for more copies (say 4)? Best Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Muhammad Bashir Khan Gesendet:

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Problem in finding a MR solution

2020-12-11 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Suraj, It is strange that the P3 crystals do not produce a MR solution. Since they all came from the same crystallization condition, you may want to check that no proteolytic cleavage of your protein has taken place and that your crystals only contain a fragment of your protein. You may also

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Finding partial occupancy monomer by MR ?

2020-12-10 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Phil, 0.32 is awfully close to 1/3, which brings a nice mathematical puzzle to my mind to see if the 1/3 occupancy is somehow related to the 3 fully occupied monomers... It may also be related to a (trigonal??) space group... You probably have already tried it, but phaser has the option to

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Crystal dissolved while checking under microscope

2020-11-26 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Prasun, Apparently, when you just mixed the peptide solution with the reservoir solution, crystals formed. After equilibration, the crystals were gone. 1) what I would try: just mix peptide and reservoir solution, but do not equilibrate, e.g. do not use a reservoir solution. This is called b

[ccp4bb] AW: phenix.refine with ligand with ambiguous electron density

2020-11-24 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Nika, Here you need some common sense. The green density in you polder map may just be the bulk solvent that was removed from the model to generate the polder map. In this case you have to use common sense and ask yourself a couple of questions: * Is the density really from the ligand,

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] ligand bound to only one chain in the crystal

2020-10-27 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Christian, We occasionally observe binding to only one monomer of a multimeric complex. I don’t think this invalidates the biological significance of your finding. I would superimpose the different monomers to see if they have (slightly) different conformations that prevent ligand binding.

[ccp4bb] AW: Kevin Denkmann lädt Sie zur Zusammenarbeit auf 'Rechnungen' ein.

2020-10-20 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Looks more like crowd-phishing to me! 😉 The original message did not make it through my spam filter and it may not be a good idea to open the shared file. Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Robbie Joosten Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Oktober 2020 16:16 An

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] over-fitting? over-refinement?

2020-10-20 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
A practice that was very popular before the Rfree came around was to fit a water molecule in every noise peak. One would get spectacular low Rfactors this way, but I cannot imagine that anyone would believe that this would be fitting and not over-fitting. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] dimeric tag to induce the homodimerization of protein

2020-09-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Dhiraj, you could also consider making a fusion protein of your protein with itself, with a suitable long linker (gly-ser-gly-ser etc.?) in between. At least that dimer won't dissociate. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Srivastava, Dhiraj Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Septembe

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Can anyone hear me?

2020-09-21 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
In theory, one gets one’s own message as well. However, most spam filters, at least the one I got, block messages sent by the recipient. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Eleanor Dodson Gesendet: Montag, 21. September 2020 11:13 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Best protocols to advance a low resolution twin

2020-09-14 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Andy, I few thoughts from my side, but no solution I am afraid: * Your twinning operator -h, -k, l is the standard alternative indexing for P3x space group, which makes a lot of sense. * P32 is a low symmetry space group, which makes MR easier, but this is offset by the NCS. *

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Going back to Coot 0.8

2020-09-09 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Paul, I fully agree with Georg and the others. As I said in my first reaction, with the new coot, the inhibitor or side chain often does not end up a little wrong, but goes off completely in the wrong direction, which makes me wonder whether I had somehow selected the wrong map. It might a

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Going back to Coot 0.8

2020-09-04 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
them fatter, pinker and more opaque. If there are still problems and you could somehow make a screencast available to me that illustrates the problem, then I would be very interested to view it. Regards, Paul. On 04/09/2020 10:05, Schreuder, Herman /DE wrote: > Dear Paul, > > Here

[ccp4bb] AW: Going back to Coot 0.8

2020-09-04 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Paul, Here I fully agree with Eike. With the real space refinement in the new coot the ligand often goes everywhere, except where it should go. Changing the Xray weight helps sometimes, but not always. In many cases I do not real-space refine and leave it to Buster to do the refinement. It

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with refinement of nucleic acid structure

2020-07-30 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
, because of these stacked overhangs. The structure was solved by MR using Molrep. Trials using Phaser were failed. The initial model was obtained by ZN-SAD. Refinement was dome for space group P43212, with cell parameters 31.96 31.96 95.07 90 90 90, with one duplex molecule per AU. Schreuder, Herman

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] real real-space-refinement

2020-07-30 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Thank you. I think I will then first try to optimize the weight and then increase the cycles. Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Tom Burnley - UKRI STFC Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2020 14:35 An: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk; Schreuder, Herman /DE Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] real real-space-refinement

2020-07-30 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
eer Sheva Israel On Jul 29, 2020 18:29, "Schreuder, Herman /DE" wrote: Coot does it, but if one wants to do it for a complete protein, it is a lot of clicking. On the other hand, I have not tried to just select the N- and C-terminus for real-space refinement to see what happens. I

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] real real-space-refinement

2020-07-29 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juli 2020 17:23 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] real real-space-refinement EXTERNAL : Real sender is eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk<mailto:eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk> Wont coot do that? Eleanor On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at

[ccp4bb] real real-space-refinement

2020-07-29 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear BB, I would like to do a real real-space-refinement of a protein against a cryo-EM map; not the mtz-based Refmac approach. A quick internet search produced a lot of Phenix hits, but little ccp4 hits. Does somebody know how to do this using ccp4 programs, or has someone a Coot script to do

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Problems with refinement of nucleic acid structure

2020-07-29 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Rafal, At this resolution, one sees many amino-acid side chains with alternative conformation, so it might be a good idea to test if this is also true for nucleotides. Best, Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Rafal Dolot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2

[ccp4bb] AW: Modeling ATP/ADP

2020-07-24 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Reza, Since nobody answered your question so far, I will do it now: In our hands, ArpWARP autoligand is still the best program to automatically dock ligands into electron density maps. Alternatively, on could also try Rhofit from Global Phasing or some other docking program. However, the res

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] chirality with electron diffraction

2020-07-20 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4 bulletin board Betreff: Re: [EXTERNAL] chirality with electron diffraction EXTERNAL : Real sender is tim.gru...@univie.ac.at Dear Herman, no, I don't think this is routine, yet! First of all, instrument manufacturers need to catch up. What's on

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] chirality with electron diffraction

2020-07-20 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
n of small molecules by electron diffraction, or is it something that in theory can be done, but only difficult in practice? Best, Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Tim Gruene Gesendet: Montag, 20. Juli 2020 11:03 An: CCP4 bulletin board ; Schreuder, Herman /DE Betreff:

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Quote source inquiry

2020-07-20 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Jessica, Thank you for this positive news on electron diffraction on small molecules. A point which is still not clear to me: is it possible to determine the absolute configuration with electron diffraction? Some claim that it cannot be done, others claim that it can be done using multiple

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Quote source inquiry

2020-07-16 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
My guess is that the model no longer superimposed well onto the electron density map, which should be easy to spot. Best, Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Frances C. Bernstein Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2020 13:44 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Bet

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-08 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
I fully agree, I have some old scripts I infrequently use. Making these programs inaccessible would break these scripts, forcing me to reinvent a couple of wheels. My 2 cnts worth of junk to your mailbox, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Oganesyan, Vaheh Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Ju

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset?

2020-07-03 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
. Juli 2020 13:11 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset? EXTERNAL : Real sender is dgwater...@gmail.com<mailto:dgwater...@gmail.com> Hi Herman, I started googling and en

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset?

2020-07-03 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
way it will stay. Best regards, Herman Von: David Waterman Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Juli 2020 10:49 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset? EXTERNAL : Real sender is dgwater

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset?

2020-07-03 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
If you check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_(physics)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Reflection-5F-28physics-29&d=DwMFaQ&c=Dbf9zoswcQ-CRvvI7VX5j3HvibIuT3ZiarcKl5qtMPo&r=HK-CY_tL8CLLA93vdywyu3qI70R4H8oHzZyRHMQu1AQ&

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] flow rate for cooling stream?

2020-07-02 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Patrick, if I recall correctly, our systems run at 10-15 ml/min (gas). I will check on Monday when I am back in the lab. The original cryostreams would run for several day's on a tank of liquid nitrogen. However, they had significant hardware to dry the nitrogen and to ensure a constant flo

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset?

2020-07-02 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear all, While following the development of this thread, I am truly amazed how people cling to names for the number of measurements per reflection whose meaning: * Depends on the cultural/engineering/scientific context * Can only be understood by experts * Where the experts, as witn

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset?

2020-07-01 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
bulletin to think about my proposal as it is, without prejudices. Best, Herman Von: Frank Von Delft Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Juli 2020 09:46 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset? EXTERNAL : Real sender is

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset?

2020-07-01 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
ts”, and we are an experimental based science. I support it. Great. Greetings, John Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc On 30 Jun 2020, at 15:10, Schreuder, Herman /DE mailto:herman.schreu...@sanofi.com>> wrote:  Dear BB, Since there does not seem a generally accepted term

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset?

2020-06-30 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear BB, Since there does not seem a generally accepted term for the subject of this discussions, and since even the IUCR scriptures do not give any guidance, I would propose to introduce a completely new term: Measurements per reflection or MPR This term is politically neutral, should adequat

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] dewar horror stories

2020-06-25 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
I had a similar one-sided discussion with FEDEX about their ignoring of our customs declarations for Switzerland. That was then the last Dewar we sent by FEDEX. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Jan Dohnalek Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2020 08:34 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

[ccp4bb] AW: Molecular replacement problem

2020-06-18 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Robert, In addition to the remarks and suggestions by others: How do your electron density maps look like? Do they look remotely reasonable, or do they look like they had gone through a meat grinder? If they look remotely ok, you could also try manual rebuilding, pruning etc. However, if t

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] R: [ccp4bb] Heavy atom vs light atoms density

2020-06-10 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Vito, I have also worked with iodinated and brominated compounds and in general the light atoms are not flattened out. As John Helliwell pointed out, you may look at series termination effects. However, since your map does not appear to be of extremely high resolution, I guess all useful d

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] modelling MET (methionine) and SME (met-sulfoxide)

2020-04-26 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Abhishek, I did not follow the links given by Paul. However the way I proceeded in these cases was to first generate an alternative conformation for the problem residues, save the file and then do the mutation and save the mutated file. Then, using an editor, I would cut the alternative co

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Increase in R-factor following REFMAC

2020-04-08 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
I guess the molecular replacement model has never been refined against this data set, so there is no reason why the Rfree should be better or worse than the Rfactor. The difference is larger than I would expect, but it may just be a statistical fluke. That the Rfree goes up significantly during

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-08 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
This is a very good point. I never was very happy with calculating the average of all B-factors. E.g. if one adds a lot of high-B water molecules, the average B goes up, but with the structure itself nothing changes. Instead of calculating the average B, it would probably better to calculate the

[ccp4bb] AW: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] on-topic: your opinions requested!

2020-04-07 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
: Schreuder, Herman /DE ; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] on-topic: your opinions requested! EXTERNAL : Real sender is frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk<mailto:frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk> I meant: complain to the editor for accepting a paper without released coord

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] on-topic: your opinions requested!

2020-04-07 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Frank, here I disagree. I think it is bad practice to complain to the editors or start naming and shaming before asking the authors first. Only if they do not want to cooperate, it would be time to bring the flame-throwers in position. However, I think the situation is more subtle and that

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Wincoot middle-mouse button does not work

2020-03-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
button and a 2-button) configured to work properly with Wincoot in Win10. Roger Rowlett Gordon & Dorothy Kline Professor, Emeritus Colgate University On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 11:56 AM Schreuder, Herman /DE mailto:herman.schreu...@sanofi.com>> wrote: Hi Arne (and others), I am using Win

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Wincoot middle-mouse button does not work

2020-03-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Wincoot middle-mouse button does not work EXTERNAL : Real sender is arne.raasa...@gmail.com<mailto:arne.raasa...@gmail.com> Hi Herman, which version, OS and mouse are you using? I can confirm that middle mouse

[ccp4bb] Wincoot middle-mouse button does not work

2020-03-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear community, Courtesy to the Corona crisis, I am now separated from my Linux workstation and I am trying to get everything working from home. Running coot remotely via a low-speed internet connection was no option so I had Wincoot installed on my laptop. Everything appears to work fine with

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Flexible C terminus

2020-03-12 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
cleaved by a protease, you may also try to get some cocrystal structure with the protease. There are quite a few tricks available to achieve this. Best, Herman Von: chitra latka Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. März 2020 12:59 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [EXTERNAL

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Flexible C terminus

2020-03-12 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Chitra, There usually is a reason the C-terminus is disordered. Either it needs to bind a ligand to get ordered, or it needs to bind to some other protein. You have to check the literature. If the C-terminus binds a ligand, you have to add this ligand to your crystallization experiment. If

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] An error in the IUCr Online Dictionary of Crystallography

2020-03-10 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Gerhard, By clicking on the "Actions" button, I discovered that the contribution comes from Brian McMahon. Maybe you could contact him about this? Best regards, Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Gerard Bricogne Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. März 20

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] What resolution - X-ray diffraction round this time

2020-02-28 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
I fully agree with this! Best, Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Phoebe A. Rice Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 17:03 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] What resolution - X-ray diffraction round this time EXTERNAL : Rea

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] problem in structure solution of multidomain protein

2020-02-12 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Rajnesh, My experience with molecular replacement is that when you don’t have a model, you don’t get density. Only in exceptional cases (crystals with a very high solvent content) I see density for missing loops or domains, so missing density is very inconvenient, but no reason to be worri

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Lattice-translocation defect (LTD)

2020-02-12 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Daniele, I agree with Wim that the first thing you should check is your space group and especially whether a ncs symmetry element has been mistakenly identified as being crystallographic. Since your Patterson peak is along w (c-axis), you have to change the space group for processing such, t

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Macromolecular Crystallography workshop in South America 2020

2020-02-06 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Bärbel, this is a good point. Last fall, I attended the bachelors ceremony for informatics students for my daughter. I was somewhat surprised to see that most German graduates were male, but that most Indian graduates were female. At the reception afterwards when talking to some people I d

[ccp4bb] AW: Mixed oligomeric states in crystallo

2020-01-31 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Thomas, The asymmetric unit of the bovine pTAFI structure (3dgv) contains one regular dimer and one somewhat disordered monomer. However there is no domain-swapping of alpha-helices or other special things. Best regards, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Kluenemann, Thomas

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Potential weak binding ligand in the active site

2020-01-01 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Hi Katrin, First, I think you meant that the green density disappears after contouring at 6 Sigma and not 6 A? That you ligand is only partly visible due to disorder and has partial occupancy happens often and is no reason for concern. Of course, you could try soaking with a 10-fold higher liga

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with structural alignment

2019-12-16 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Ishan, A structural alignment should be independent of the software used. However, the residues being selected for the alignment can make a big difference and different programs have different selection criteria. There are two cases: 1. Different proteins. Here one needs to decide what t

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] 8/ 2263 spots indexed XDS

2019-12-02 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
: Samstag, 30. November 2019 11:00 An: Schreuder, Herman /DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] 8/ 2263 spots indexed XDS EXTERNAL : Real sender is maps.fa...@gmail.com<mailto:maps.fa...@gmail.com> Hi Herman, thank you for your answer. Yes, my data were collected

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] 8/ 2263 spots indexed XDS

2019-11-29 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Almu, were your data collected at a synchrotron? Many synchrotrons run automatic processing of the data being collected and it is worth looking if there is some processing directory between the frames you collected. If so, these data may already be quite decent, and in any case, the XDS.IN

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-25 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Matthias, I have the impression that you have set FRIEDEL'S_LAW= FALSE in your input, which means that CORRECT will print the anomalous completeness. If you plan to solve your structure with molrep, you can set FRIEDEL'S_LAW= TRUE, which should give a much better completeness. Best, Herm