Re: [Cerowrt-devel] ADSL Issue (PPPoE)

2012-07-30 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi William, On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:34 AM, William Katsak wrote: Hello, I am playing with a CeroWRT (3.3.8-6) router on my vacation in Russia and am seeing some weird behavior with simple_qos.sh that I am unsure if I should attribute to a bug, or to an Internet connection that is just

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt 3.3.8-17 is released

2012-08-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
, perhaps that will help? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, great work, as always I upgraded my production router to the latest and greatest (since I only have one router…). And it works quite well for normal usage… Netalyzr reports around

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the agile thread, post-sugarland thoughts, etc

2012-09-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, sugarland really took stability under load to a new level. My typical UDP flooding experiments failed to take the router down even though I opened the flood gates for a full hour (against qos; will repeat against simple-qos once time permits); not even a single report in dmesg on the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] blocking probes...

2013-01-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Jan 12, 2013, at 20:50 , Dave Taht wrote: one of the underused features of cerowrt is that I stuck a sensor on xinetd to detect attempts to telnet or ftp to the router and cut off access to some other services, notably ssh. I would have loved to extend this facility to either

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fixing simple_qos.sh

2013-01-30 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Maciej, thanks for your thoughts. On Jan 30, 2013, at 04:20 , Maciej Soltysiak wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Any idea of how to determine link speed by a script? I assumed Dave meant this to be as simple as fetching a file

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] trivial 6in4 fix(?)

2013-06-16 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, On Jun 16, 2013, at 21:36 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com writes: Well, that result is mildly puzzling. netperf-wrapper -6 throughout? no ipv4? There's some ipv4 traffic in the background. Dunno exactly how much. You are on a dsl

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] trivial 6in4 fix(?)

2013-06-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, On Jun 16, 2013, at 22:55 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: As far as I can tell at least VDSL typically means VDSL2 and that probably means PTM instead of ATM. In essence this means you do not have to deal with ATMs 48 payload

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] trivial 6in4 fix(?)

2013-06-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, hi Toke, On Jun 16, 2013, at 22:57 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: As far as I can tell at least VDSL typically means VDSL2 and that probably means PTM

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] trivial 6in4 fix(?)

2013-06-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:44 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: Honestly, I think the best thing to do is not so much assume ATM or lack of ATM, but simply measure it :) Right, doing the ping test with payload sizes from 16 to 113

[Cerowrt-devel] late report on 3.7.4-3 with ATM linklayer

2013-07-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, hi group so finally I am getting around to repeat a few test with cerowrt on a rather typical ADSL line. Using simple_qos.sh did not result in nice ping time behavior under up- and downlink saturating loads, as I had seen with earlier versions (like 1.5 years ago when I switched to an

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.2-1 dev release + owamp

2013-07-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, hi List On Jul 26, 2013, at 08:21 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: I can certainly confirm this, having spent several fruitless hours with the build. 6in4 remains broken for henet. dnsmasq appears not to recognise additional domain name servers. The ISP I use has a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.2-1 dev release + owamp

2013-07-31 Thread Sebastian Moeller
concurrent internet activities is problematic. This looks quite abysmal, if I might ask, what is the unloaded ping RTT to one of the first hops on your ISPs side? And how did you measure the uplink delay (netalyzr by any chance)? best Sebastian On 26 Jul 2013, at 16:51, Sebastian

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.2-1 dev release + owamp

2013-08-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Aug 8, 2013, at 01:21 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: On 7 Aug 2013, at 14:38, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Fred, this got a bit longish so I took the liberty to reduce the quoted text a bit On Aug 5, 2013, at 12:47 , Fred Stratton fredstrat

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.2-1 dev release + owamp

2013-08-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, I see that 3.10.5-1 is out. On Jul 26, 2013, at 07:20 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: sysupgrade -n doesn't work with this release. Stay away. I have a new build of 3.10.3-1 and am trying to fix it… Does sys upgrade -n work for this release? best Sebastian

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.2-1 dev release + owamp

2013-08-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Aug 11, 2013, at 23:52 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, I see that 3.10.5-1 is out. I'm just keeping up with the patches and the openwrt tree. Stephen walker also dropped in a huge

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] AQM scripts modified for DSL exploration

2013-08-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:06 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: Alright I slammed them into ceropackages for the next build but I don't get this line: STABSTRING=stab mtu 2048 tsize ${TSIZE} overhead ${OVERHEAD} linklayer ${LINKLAYER} mtu 2048? I agree that looks

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] AQM and ADSL

2013-08-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Aug 13, 2013, at 22:33 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: DT has taken to stealth with his releases. Heh. No, these are not releases. If I don't get a chance to do some testing I don't post

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] AQM and ADSL

2013-08-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Aug 14, 2013, at 14:01 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: On 14 Aug 2013, at 12:42, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Fred, On Aug 13, 2013, at 21:40 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: (apologies for wrecking the list, and introducing email

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: [PATCH] net_sched: restore linklayer atm handling

2013-08-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Aug 15, 2013, at 02:46 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: jesper just dropped this set of patches on the netdev list, which I hope address some of the remaining issues on htb. There was some debate the last time this went by on the list, so the word is not in yet.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jesper, On Aug 23, 2013, at 09:27 , Jesper Dangaard Brouer jbro...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:13:52 -0700 Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1 to assess

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Aug 23, 2013, at 07:13 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1 to assess the status of the HTB atm link layer adjustments to see whether the recent changes

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Aug 23, 2013, at 15:02 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: [snipp] Thus, in kernels = 3.9, you would need to change/reduce your tc overhead parameter with -14 bytes (iif you accounted encapsulated Ethernet header before) That is what I thought before, but my

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jesper hi List, On Aug 23, 2013, at 09:27 , Jesper Dangaard Brouer jbro...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:13:52 -0700 Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
: quick note: running this script requires that you ifconfig ifb0 up at some point. In my case on cerowrt you took care of that already... On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, On Aug 23, 2013, at 07:13 , Dave Taht dave.t

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, I guess I should have been clearer in stating that you are author of the AQM scripts. On Aug 23, 2013, at 19:23 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: Well, partly the option for HTB was already in his script but under tested

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Aug 23, 2013, at 22:29 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, I guess I found the culprit: once I added $ADSLL to the ingress() in simple.qos: I had that in there originally. I

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, so I git around to do the PIE tests... On Aug 23, 2013, at 07:13 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi List, hi Jesper, So I tested 3.10.9-1 to assess the status of the HTB atm link layer

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Sebastian Moeller
, at 21:51, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, On Aug 23, 2013, at 22:29 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, I guess I found the culprit: once I added $ADSLL to the ingress

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Sebastian Moeller
... On 25 Aug 2013, at 14:59, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Fred, On Aug 25, 2013, at 12:17 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: On 25 Aug 2013, at 10:21, Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: As the person with the most flaky ADSL link, I point out

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some kernel updates

2013-08-25 Thread Sebastian Moeller
wrote: On 25 Aug 2013, at 18:53, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Fred, On Aug 25, 2013, at 16:26 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: Thank you. This is an initial response. Am using 3.10.2-1 currently, with the standard AQM interface. This does

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 3.10.10-1 development build released

2013-09-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, so I ant for the shiny 3.10.11-2, worked great (using Fred's mtd -r method, thanks Fred) On Sep 10, 2013, at 02:28 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: + readlink fix (hopefully fixes sysupgrade) I guess this will be testable at the next version update... + usual merge

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 3.10.11-2 development build debloat bug

2013-09-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Sebastian On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 3:01 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, On Sep 12, 2013, at 06:18 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: Well, actually, I don't know when the syntax changed, but now the -b option needs

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] TSO sizing and FQ scheduler

2013-11-05 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Maciej, On Nov 5, 2013, at 14:22 , Maciej Soltysiak mac...@soltysiak.com wrote: Hi list, 3.12 landed with TSO sizing and FQ scheduler. Is there significant benefit of trying to port these to Cero's 3.10 ? According to Eric Dumazet, these two help for flows terminating on the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.18-1 Field Report

2013-11-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Richard, On Nov 12, 2013, at 06:47 , Richard E. Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: I used the sysupgrade process to upgrade my primary router from 3.7.5-2 firmware to 3.10.18-1. - I initially goofed, and installed the wrong build firmware (I installed the WNDR3800 image on a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.18-1 Field Report

2013-11-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
, at 00:06 , Sebastian Moeller sebastian.moel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, hi Dave, hi list, so I could not resist the lure of 3.10.18-1 and upgraded my 3.10.11-2.; which turned out to be slightly more involved than I had expected. 1) SYSUPGRADE root@nacktmulle:/# sysupgrade -d 60 -n

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] if you can't tell

2013-11-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: I am simply horribly, horribly behind on email. I just got back from canada day before yesterday and am trying to dig out. IETF was both productive and non-productive in many ways... was the consensus 3.10.18 was busted worse than 3.10.17? .19 is out but I'll

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] if you can't tell

2013-11-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Nov 14, 2013, at 20:57 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Richard E. Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, The flurry of comments on 3.10.18 that I posted were partially caused because I used sysupgrade (the first time ever!

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.18-1 Field Report

2013-11-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
to document this potential fix for the greater public... Best Regards Sebastian On Nov 13, 2013, at 00:11 , Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi All, it turns out that not being able/willing to read can make you do busy work. It seems I forgot to add firmware as device to my mtd

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] if you can't tell

2013-11-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Nov 14, 2013, at 20:57 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Richard E. Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, The flurry of comments on 3.10.18 that I posted were partially caused because I used sysupgrade (the first time ever!

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] PIE and ADSL2+

2013-11-22 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:08 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: I have been using PIE instead of fq_codel for approximately 10 days. It works well. Intrigued by your report I went ahead and tested simple.qos with fq_codel and pie (cerowrt 3.10.18-1) with rrul against

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.21-1 development release

2013-12-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller
in cerowrt, hoping that might solve the sysupgrade challenges. best Sebastian On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, On Dec 2, 2013, at 02:07 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: This is nothing more than a resync with openwrt and a bugfix

[Cerowrt-devel] sysupgrade failure solved

2013-12-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Dear list, for some time now we had the issue that the sysupgrade command did not work. So here is the output of my first attempt to sysupgrade 3.10.18-1 to 3.10.21-1: root@nacktmulle:~# sysupgrade -d 60 -n -v /home/persistent/cerowrts/3.10.21-1/3.10.21-1-sysupgrade.bin killall: watchdog: no

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wireless failures 3.10.17-3

2013-12-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi List, hi Dave, On Dec 11, 2013, at 19:41 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: I have the regrettable problem of mostly testing the 5ghz channel due to interference issues on the 2ghz band. What I am seeing in the last several releases of the 3.8.x and 3.10 series is after tons of

[Cerowrt-devel] 3.10.23-1 wifi issues

2013-12-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, so I tried to upgrade to 3.10.23-1 to test the wether the ath TX DMA error would be gone. But alas, I can connect to the router via wifi after the upgrade (I did the upgrade twice, once from the GUI and once from the common line). So I am switching back to 3.10.21-1 for the time

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 3.10.23-1 wifi issues

2013-12-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Sebastian Regression to 3.10.21-1 solves the problem, as you say. On 11/12/13 23:18, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Dave, so I tried to upgrade to 3.10.23-1 to test the wether the ath TX DMA error would be gone. But alas, I can connect to the router via wifi after the upgrade (I

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wireless failures 3.10.17-3

2013-12-13 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Sujith, On Dec 13, 2013, at 10:27 , Sujith Manoharan suj...@msujith.org wrote: Sebastian Moeller wrote: It is a net gear WNDR3700 v2, so according to: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/wndr3700 it is a Atheros AR7161 rev 2 680 MHz soc with the following wireless parts: Atheros AR9223

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wireless failures 3.10.17-3

2013-12-13 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hello Felix, On Dec 13, 2013, at 17:51 , Felix Fietkau n...@openwrt.org wrote: On 2013-12-13 10:48, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Sujith, On Dec 13, 2013, at 10:27 , Sujith Manoharan suj...@msujith.org wrote: Sebastian Moeller wrote: It is a net gear WNDR3700 v2, so according to: http

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Dec 14, 2013, at 07:26 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: one of the things that makes me happy with all-up testing is that occasionally after completely blowing up my own work, I get to critique fresh work that isn't mine, in an area with which I have no expertise, with

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Field Report on CeroWrt 3.10.24-1

2013-12-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Dec 15, 2013, at 06:16 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: I did a tftp install of CeroWrt 3.10.42-1 on my secondary WNDR3800. I then used the “secondary” script to reconfigure the subnets and SSIDs to be different from my primary CeroWrt router. I know that a lot of

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Field Report on CeroWrt 3.10.24-1

2013-12-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
be greatly appreciated) Best Sebastian On 15/12/13 11:33, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Rich, On Dec 15, 2013, at 06:16 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: I did a tftp install of CeroWrt 3.10.42-1 on my secondary WNDR3800. I then used the “secondary” script to reconfigure

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
hI Dave hi list, On Dec 14, 2013, at 07:26 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: one of the things that makes me happy with all-up testing is that occasionally after completely blowing up my own work, I get to critique fresh work that isn't mine, in an area with which I have no expertise,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Dec 14, 2013, at 07:26 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: one of the things that makes me happy with all-up testing is that occasionally after completely blowing up my own work, I get to critique fresh work that isn't mine, in an area with which I have no expertise, with

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-16 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Dec 16, 2013, at 14:45 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, List, + hopefully nasty interface initialization bug fixed http://www.bufferbloat.net/issues/437 In a one-out-of-one test, this build causes all six wireless interfaces to start up: CEROwrt (and

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy?

2013-12-16 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Dec 16, 2013, at 20:46 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: I have long used 5 as an indicator that the 5ghz channel was better. This goes back to a long thread on nanog, like 4? 5? years ago, where the hope was to train users that 5 was better. Well, it's turned out that 5

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jesper, On Dec 17, 2013, at 09:03 , Jesper Dangaard Brouer bro...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:24:06 +0100 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On Dec 14, 2013, at 07:26 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: 2) it's not clear to me we have to support both the stab

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
line in aqm.lua. best Sebastian On 17/12/13 08:22, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Jesper, On Dec 17, 2013, at 09:03 , Jesper Dangaard Brouer bro...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:24:06 +0100 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On Dec 14, 2013, at 07:26 , Dave

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-18 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, On Dec 18, 2013, at 05:34 , David Lang da...@lang.hm wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Rich Brown wrote: - From what you’ve said, I don’t have much hope for doing it automagically. But maybe we can provide clues to help the customer do to the right thing. Perhaps the first dropdown

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-18 Thread Sebastian Moeller
cleared thngs up… best Sebastian On 18/12/13 10:33, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi David, On Dec 18, 2013, at 05:34 , David Lang da...@lang.hm wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Rich Brown wrote: - From what you’ve said, I don’t have much hope for doing it automagically. But maybe we can

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Intuition of this guy improved his 1, 5 Mbit DSL line

2013-12-18 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Maciej, On Dec 18, 2013, at 12:23 , Maciej Soltysiak mac...@soltysiak.com wrote: Hi, Story from slashodot: A guy moved to a low speed DSL connection. When describing what he's done to make it work better, among other things, he mentioned he configured QoS to be below his cap. He put

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Intuition of this guy improved his 1, 5 Mbit DSL line

2013-12-18 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Dec 18, 2013, at 14:35 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: I used TomatoUSB -the shibby builds, rather than the Toastman ones- for several years prior to moving to OpenWRT and then ceroWRT. The TomatoUSB community has repeatedly shouted down any attempts to discuss

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page

2013-12-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Dec 19, 2013, at 16:27 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@ydl.net wrote: On 19/12/13 15:07, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi All, On Dec 19, 2013, at 15:24 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@ydl.net wrote: 2 comments: You talk about link speed. This has 2 meanings: the rate

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page

2013-12-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:33 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: On 20/12/13 10:12, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, On Dec 19, 2013, at 16:27 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@ydl.net wrote: On 19/12/13 15:07, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi All, On Dec 19, 2013, at 15

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but AQM

2013-12-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, On Dec 20, 2013, at 22:22 , dpr...@reed.com wrote: Given that there is no likelihood of making localized queue management intelligent because it has no global information whatsoever, I strongly suggest that smart intelligent and even active are hugely misleading. They are

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page

2013-12-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Dec 20, 2013, at 22:25 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, I have always hungered for a two-part entry for the up and download link speeds. It’s a little bit of a crock to make every customer break out their calculator to compute 95% (or 92% or whatever

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-21 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, On Dec 20, 2013, at 19:01 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to say how much I was enjoying catching up on this thread. I think only one question came up

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Proper AQM settings for my connection?

2013-12-21 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hector Ordorica hechack...@gmail.com wrote: I'm running 3.10.13-2 on a WNDR3800, and have used the suggested settings from the latest draft: http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for_CeroWrt_310 I have a 30Mb down / 5Mb upload cable connection. With fq_codel, even

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Update to Setting up SQM for CeroWrt 3.10 web page. Comments needed.

2013-12-28 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Dec 28, 2013, at 15:27 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sebastian, I would love to comment further, but after reloading http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for_CeroWrt_310 just returns a blank page and I can not get back to the page

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Update to Setting up SQM for CeroWrt 3.10 web page. Comments needed.

2013-12-28 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Dec 28, 2013, at 21:09 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: On 28/12/13 19:54, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, On Dec 28, 2013, at 15:27 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc wrote: On 28/12/13 13:42, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, On Dec 28, 2013, at 12

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #1: How does SQM shape the ingress?

2013-12-28 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: As I write the SQM page, I find I have questions that I can’t answer myself. I’m going to post these questions separately because they’ll each generate their own threads of conversation. QUESTION #1: How does SQM shape the ingress? I know that fq_codel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #2: How does CeroWrt use info gleaned from the link layer adaptation?

2013-12-28 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION #2: How does CeroWrt use info gleaned from the link layer adaptation? The link layer adaptations work in correcting the kernels estimate of a packets behavior on the wire. In the tc_stab case the kernel calculates the effective size of

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #1: How does SQM shape the ingress?

2013-12-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
at 11:23 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: As I write the SQM page, I find I have questions that I can’t answer myself. I’m going to post these questions separately because they’ll each generate their own threads of conversation. QUESTION #1

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds?

2013-12-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi list, On Dec 29, 2013, at 09:53 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds? Although we have already spent a lot of time on the list batting

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #2: How does CeroWrt use info gleaned from the link layer adaptation?

2013-12-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION #2: How does CeroWrt use info gleaned from the link layer adaptation? The link layer adaptations work in correcting the kernels estimate of a packets behavior on the wire. In the tc_stab

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] been writing all night

2013-12-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Dec 29, 2013, at 14:28 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: it is now 5:26 am. I have not had an all night writing or coding binge since I quit smoking back in july. I bought a pack this afternoon. It turns out that chain-smoking has benefits to my writing process... I revised

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-05 Thread Sebastian Moeller
https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/2013-December/001914.html and following messages), Fred Stratton described the overheads carried by various options, and Sebastian Moeller also gave some useful advice. After looking at the options, I despair of giving people a clear

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Jan 6, 2014, at 04:46 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Rich, On Jan 4, 2014, at 19:16 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION #5: I still don’t have any great answers for the Link

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
setup suggestion as default. I have been running the Sebastian Moeller ping script overnight to calculate ADSL overhead for the last several days. After several hours of curve fitting using Octave, an overhead result is displayed. This novel approach works well. It would be nice to get to where

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
would be a nice data point for figuring out how important the correct overhead estimate really is in real life, theory being theory and all… Best Regards Sebastian On 06/01/14 14:12, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, On Jan 6, 2014, at 10:52 , Fred Stratton fredstrat...@imap.cc

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, thanks a lot for the explanation. On Jan 6, 2014, at 16:03 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2014 5:56 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, hi List, On Jan 6, 2014, at 04:29 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014

[Cerowrt-devel] regarding ECN

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, I had a quick look at the current state of the page and I really like what you created there. I noticed that for ECN you argue: For the Download (inbound, ingress) link, we recommend you turn ECN on so that CeroWrt can inform the local receiver that it has detected congestion

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-07 Thread Sebastian Moeller
. -- David P. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi David, On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:08 , David Personette dper...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the US, but live in a relatively rural area. My only internet options are DSL and satellite. The local

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] New Linksys router

2014-01-07 Thread Sebastian Moeller
hI there, On Jan 7, 2014, at 17:03 , David Personette dper...@gmail.com wrote: RAM and flash size? According to http://www.linksys.com/en-us/press/releases/2014-01-06_Linksys_wrt_revolutionizes_wireless_networking : RAM 256MB, flash 128MB, dual core ARM -- David P. On

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Jan 11, 2014, at 17:29 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, Thanks for all the good responses to this question. I have incorporated the info into the SQM page on the wiki, so that it now gives broad recommendations for each link type, and refers people to the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] VDSL

2014-01-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Jan 11, 2014, at 17:29 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: The VDSL option is burning up way too many of my brain cells. Given that VDSL may well use ATM, while VDSL2 is unlikely to use ATM, I think that it isn’t useful to include it as a top-level choice . In the new

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Perfection vs. Good Enough

2014-01-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Jan 11, 2014, at 17:31 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, I am so pleased with the state of CeroWrt. The software has improved enormously, to the point that we all get really good performance from our routers at home. If you want a real eyeful of the progress

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] VDSL

2014-01-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Jan 11, 2014, at 18:55 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: HI Sebastian, Well, that looks like a decent recommendation for the wiki. The SQM configuration page still needs to expose all three values, atm, ethernet, and none so that people can actually change

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Perfection vs. Good Enough

2014-01-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, On Jan 11, 2014, at 19:47 , Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sebastian, It is quite clear to me, that I failed to explain the matters surrounding ATM links properly. But if I can not explain this to a small group of technical experts there is no chance for me

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] VDSL

2014-01-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Aaron, On Jan 11, 2014, at 21:23 , Aaron Wood wood...@gmail.com wrote: Rich, Sebastian, (and others), First, a hello. I've been lurking on the bufferbloat mailing list for a bit, and just joined here as well to better follow what's going on, and see if there's any way I can help.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-16 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Aaron, On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:03 , Aaron Wood wood...@gmail.com wrote: All, I'm noting this here in case anyone is interested. After I write this up, I'm going to start from scratch on the configuration, and factory-reset the router. = The 5GHz radio on my 3800 seems to be

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-16 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, thanks again. On Jan 16, 2014, at 23:50 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Aaron, On Jan 16, 2014, at 20:08 , Aaron Wood wood...@gmail.com wrote: Sebastian, after sorting out the router

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-16 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Jan 17, 2014, at 00:12 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, many thanks for all the information elucidation, as always. I enjoy trying to find the words to explain. On Jan 16

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] going down the todo list

2014-01-19 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, hi list, On Jan 19, 2014, at 13:51 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: I am going to try to knock out a new release by tomorrow... -1) has minidnssd and upnp been working for others correctly? 0) Presently fooling with a new skin with the gui (it's in 3.10.26-2 - don't!

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM restart and problems on boot fixed

2014-01-19 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Jan 19, 2014, at 17:36 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: The /etc/hotplug.d/iface/00-debloat script has been wrong in the face of the qos-scripts, aqm-scripts, and stuff inbetween. Thus on a fresh boot, or after a DHCP renew or a variety of other circumstances, the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-19 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, On Jan 19, 2014, at 20:01 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen t...@toke.dk wrote: Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com writes: hah. Calling it that is the opposite of my intent with default blow-up of 802.11e - which has been to convince everyone it's busted and to fix it. rrul_be ? Added an

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt issues (3.10.24-8)

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, quick question, how does one turn of logging for babeld? It seems that if daemonized it defaults to logging to /var/log/babeld.log (or similar). Is setting the log file to /dev/null really the answer? (Since I have no the IPv6 issue not yet resolved, I assume babeld is

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt issues (3.10.24-8)

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
On January 29, 2014 5:10:18 PM CET, Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dave, quick question, how does one turn of logging for babeld? It seems that if daemonized it defaults to logging to /var/log/babeld.log

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt issues (3.10.24-8)

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Jan 29, 2014, at 19:21 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On January 29, 2014 5:10:18 PM CET, Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt issues (3.10.24-8)

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Steve, On Jan 29, 2014, at 19:24 , Steve Jenson ste...@fruitless.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On January 29, 2014 5:10:18 PM CET, Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt issues (3.10.24-8)

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, On Jan 29, 2014, at 20:56 , David Personette dper...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: I have actually not yet understood what it wants to tell me ;), since I got your attention, is there an easy way to run a babel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt issues (3.10.24-8)

2014-01-30 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, hi list, On Jan 30, 2014, at 17:21 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Steve, On Jan 29, 2014, at 19:24 , Steve Jenson ste...@fruitless.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sebastian

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