Mach-II calls them listeners - and uses a notify XML tag to call methods
on them.
As of release 1.6, Mach-II also supports the publish/subscribe model that
Model-Glue uses.
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Chad Gray cg...@careyweb.com wrote:
I am studying Model-Glue and MachII by reading the
Hello -
I've been a CF developer for years, but I'm having trouble taking the
reigns over for a site built in the Mach-II framework. I could build
what I've been asked to build in Fusebox in 5 minutes, but can't get
Mach-II to listen.
Before I launch into my question, is there anyone
Hello -
I've been a CF developer for years, but I'm having trouble taking the
reigns over for a site built in the Mach-II framework. I could build
what I've been asked to build in Fusebox in 5 minutes, but can't get
Mach-II to listen.
Before I launch into my question, is there anyone
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:49 PM
Does anyone know a good reason why a Mach II app would be
maxing out the CPU? No one is hitting the box at all and it's
still hitting 100%. Debugging is off.
Out of
its struggling with the fact that its overweight, unnecessary.
sorry, i had to.
:) tw
On 4/17/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know a good reason why a Mach II app would be maxing out the CPU?
No one is hitting the box at all and it's still hitting 100%. Debugging is
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
Does anyone know a good reason why a Mach II app would be maxing out the CPU?
No one is hitting the box at all and it's still hitting 100%. Debugging is
off.
if you were running fusionreactor you could see if there were any
running requests stuck in some kind of
DING DING, ROUND TWO!
-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 April 2006 19:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mach II maxing out
its struggling with the fact that its overweight, unnecessary.
sorry, i had to.
:) tw
On 4/17/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED
A new client is running it and if I can't get it all good they'll be moving
to asp.net. If I can get it working fast enough then maybe it can be saved
for CF.
The problem I'm seeing is that pages are taking so long that it's building
up a lng request queue. There must be a bad setting or
Round 2 can go to community. I need tech and this is a tech list. Sorry to
be short, but
DING DING, ROUND TWO!
-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 April 2006 19:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mach II maxing out
its struggling with the fact
I spent some time today in the bowels of both the Mach-II and
Model-Glue frameworks, and Mach-II itself is really, really lean and
mean. It's what some developers do with it that's bloated...
-Joe
On 4/17/06, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
its struggling with the fact that its overweight,
On 4/17/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A new client is running it and if I can't get it all good they'll be moving
to asp.net. If I can get it working fast enough then maybe it can be saved
for CF.
The problem I'm seeing is that pages are taking so long that it's building
up a
Does anyone know a good reason why a Mach II app would be maxing out
the CPU? No one is hitting the box at all and it's still hitting 100%.
Debugging is off.
Micheal I know you hate topica lists - but you'll get a better response about
mach-ii there since that is where the mach-ii list
Micheal,
If the MACHII_CONFIG_MODE is set to -1 and the debugging is completely turned
off (not filtered by ip), chances are there is nothing wrong with Mach-II, but
an infinitely loop, poor code or database problems somewhere. Report back when
you get a chance.
...Peter
Fusebox 4 was developed specifically for CFMX, and doesn't use OO or
CFCs. Just because it don't have the buzzword compliance doesn't make
a framework bad. Heck, FB3 which was designed for CF4 is still a very
viable framework. Which isn't to say you should pick up a new
framework (or three), of
First off, I know I'm biased -- considering my involvement in the 1.1.0 release
of Mach-II.
I happen to like MG better than M2, but it's more of a style thing
than anything about the frameworks themselves. I think MG is more
helpful in distinguishing what is controller code and what is model
I personally don't like FB and wouldn't use it. But my own framework is
similar in some ways, just a lot simpler.
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 November 2005 20:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mach-II vs model-glue
Fusebox 4 was developed
The distinguishing factor between M2 and MG for controller code is a name --
controller (MG) or listener (M2). In essense, they act in the same way.
It's merely a semantic difference IMHO.
On that narrow point, yes. ;)
MG has the (significant, in my view) advantage that control returns
The distinguishing factor between M2 and MG for controller code is a
name -- controller (MG) or listener (M2). In essense, they act in the
same way. It's merely a semantic difference IMHO.
On that narrow point, yes. ;)
MG has the (significant, in my view) advantage that control
The ability to announce events in listeners is so you can leverage
event-mappings -- which are extremely useful.
I certianly agree, and that's really no different that MG's results.
But in MG you can ONLY announce results, you can't announce arbitrary
events like in M2.
Theorectically, you
On 11/19/05, Peter Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The distinguishing factor between M2 and MG for controller code is a name --
controller (MG) or listener (M2). In essense, they act in the same way.
It's merely a semantic difference IMHO.
I beg to differ...
The more important difference
On 11/19/05, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been looking at mach-II and model-glue as my two possibilities.
Has anyone used both and has any comments on which one they liked best and
why.
Read my frameworks comparison presentation and look at the frameworks
sample code that goes with it
On 11/19/05, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fusebox 4 was developed specifically for CFMX, and doesn't use OO or
CFCs. Just because it don't have the buzzword compliance doesn't make
a framework bad. Heck, FB3 which was designed for CF4 is still a very
viable framework. Which
I agree completely with Barney here and would refer folks to these
posts by, respectively, Joe Rinehart and Ben Edwards about the
implicit part of the invocation process in Mach II:
http://clearsoftware.net/client/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=FFC3E60A-E081-2BAC-69C5B0BD2C8DE3C0
I was very public about my dislike for FB3 but FB4 began to persuade
me and FB41 is very compelling in my opinion.
To open a can of worms can you elaborate? I know some
version-agnostic things about Fusebox (like fusedocs) took some
persuasion for you to see the light. Surely that
On 11/19/05, Peter Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, you can announce events in your listeners, however you cannot clear the
event queue (well, you could if you access some untouchable stuff in the
request scope).
But you can in a filter - which is really just a different type of
On 11/19/05, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The web flows in a procedural way. It's just a byproduct of HTTP, and
no real way around it.
Yes, this is an extremely important point that many people seem to
gloss over. Even trying to overlay MVC on the web interaction model is
not a
On 11/19/05, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To open a can of worms can you elaborate?
Most of what I disliked about FB3 is implied in this review of the FB3 book:
http://corfield.org/index.cfm/event/fusebox.fusebook
I know some
version-agnostic things about Fusebox (like
see the light... I don't remember if I explicitly mentioned FuseDocs
back then but I did think FLiP was pretty lame (see link above).
Like so many other things, detailed use of fusedocs and the FLiP
process are really about personal style. I happen to dislike them
both, despite a couple honest
Take a look at Plum's extensive documentation:
Yes, as I wrote that line I kinda knew you'd pop up and point at the
Plum documentation...
Just remember that your framework and yours alone is Windows only
and that your packaged documentation uses a Windows-only format.
Until the
On 6/19/05, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Until the underlying Plum framework is available separately from the
proprietary IDE and you provide the documentation in a
cross-platform packaged format, I will find it very hard to remember
to mention it in the same breath as Fusebox,
Which part of the above is inaccurate? The CHM documentation is not
cross-platform. The Plum IDE is not cross-platform. The framework is
not available separately. Those appear to be true statements.
Yes, those are true statements. However, you originally said:
onTap probably has the most
On 6/19/05, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If PLUM's documentation is more comprehensive, whether you're interested in
it or not, your statement is obviously wrong.
Having spent some time reading the Plum documentation and comparing it
with the onTap documentation, I think I'll stand by my
HI Isaac,
been wanting to try onTap for a while, lots of neat stuff in there, as
a 'newbie' to onTap (most of my work is in Fusebox, facry and mG) ,
I'd like to see shorter task based tutorials, the 18 minute preso is
great for an introduction (maybe trim some of the fat out and move it
to a
HI Isaac,
been wanting to try onTap for a while, lots of neat stuff
in there, as a 'newbie' to onTap (most of my work is in
Fusebox, facry and mG) , I'd like to see shorter task
based tutorials, the 18 minute preso is great for an
introduction (maybe trim some of the fat out and move
it to
Until the underlying Plum framework is available separately from the
proprietary IDE
Maybe there's room for the Plum developers to more clearly separate
the Plum IDE from the framework - from what I know, the IDE generates
a project XML file from which code is generated. If Productivity
onTap probably has the most comprehensive documentation
of any of the frameworks out there.
Thank you Sean, I really appreciate that...
Just as an aside, they really are great docs. Good job Isaac, and
thanks for setting an example for the rest of us to try to follow.
--
Get Glued!
The
onTap probably has the most comprehensive documentation
of any of the frameworks out there.
Thank you Sean, I really appreciate that...
Just as an aside, they really are great docs.
Good job Isaac, and thanks for setting an
example for the rest of us to try to follow.
Thanks Joe, I
: Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
Until the underlying Plum framework is available separately from the
proprietary IDE
Maybe there's room for the Plum developers to more clearly separate
the Plum IDE from the framework - from what I know, the IDE generates
How would you feel if we could get Plum working with MySQL
under Mono?
The UI is likely to be the biggest problem since that's the least
portable part of a .NET app at the moment.
GTK+ has become the defacto standard for graphical Mono apps by the look
of things.
--
Damien McKenna -
Maybe you could do a Breeze presentation on onTap some time in Sean's Breeze
room? I'm a Fusebox guy at heart, but am always interested in learning about
other frameworks (I like both Mach-II and Model-Glue). However, the example
you provided there just confused me...if anything it made it look
actually I think there was already a breeze preso that Isaac did...not
sure if it was recorded or not.
Ike?
On 6/17/05, Brian Kotek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe you could do a Breeze presentation on onTap some time in Sean's Breeze
room? I'm a Fusebox guy at heart, but am always interested
I feel the same way, but even more so. I've looked at the examples on
the ontap site and feel like the learning curve is about like | while
I've been able to pickup fusebox mach-ii mg fairly easy with a
learning curve more like /
I think it might be that I need a video tutorial so that the
On 6/17/05, Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
actually I think there was already a breeze preso that Isaac did...not
sure if it was recorded or not.
Isaac recently did a Macrochat on onTap (May 18th) but I can't find
the recording URL.
He also did an earlier preso which was definitely
Maybe you could do a Breeze presentation on onTap some
time in Sean's Breeze room? I'm a Fusebox guy at heart,
but am always interested in learning about other
frameworks (I like both Mach-II and Model-Glue). However,
the example you provided there just confused me...if
anything it made it
actually I think there was already a breeze preso that
Isaac did...not sure if it was recorded or not.
Ike?
There've been two... Neither of them went as well as I'd hoped. :P
The first one was a private presentation to 40 or so people (better
attendance than I'd expected), all of them CFUG
I feel the same way, but even more so. I've looked at the
examples on the ontap site and feel like the learning curve
is about like | while I've been able to pickup fusebox
mach-ii mg fairly easy with a learning curve more like /
Yep... I've heard this. It's my ongoing challenge to make
curve (was Re: mach II or fusebox?)
I feel the same way, but even more so. I've looked at the
examples on the ontap site and feel like the learning curve
is about like | while I've been able to pickup fusebox
mach-ii mg fairly easy with a learning curve more like
Well, I made it about half-way through the preso before I downloaded
the files and started playing. And, I made it about halfway through
the hello world demo before I got sick of creating directories (but I
got the concept).
So, here's a question that I haven't been able to answer in the last
20
I might offer up that these programmers may not
necessarily have short attention spans, but rather we want
to jump in and try coding.
You may be better served with some step by step type
tutorials that basic give a step, let them play awhile,
then give the next step
Well the three people
onTap probably has the most comprehensive documentation
of any of the frameworks out there. Check out
http://www.fusiontap.com/ for articles about onTap and
other frameworks, tutorials, forums and so on. No
matter what anyone might think of the actual framework /
architecture, the supporting
Well, I made it about half-way through the preso before I
downloaded
the files and started playing. And, I made it about
halfway through
the hello world demo before I got sick of creating
directories (but I
got the concept).
So, here's a question that I haven't been able to answer
in the
- Original Message -
From: Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
onTap probably has the most comprehensive documentation of any of the
frameworks out there. Check out http://www.fusiontap.com/ ...
Sean,
Take a look at Plum's extensive documentation:
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
Adam, I loved Plum when I was on beta but..
things changed and it wasn't anything plum did it was just the lack of
support for mysql (as i graduated up a notch from access) but its also built
upon .net framework and gawd 4 bid I
On 6/17/05, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Take a look at Plum's extensive documentation:
Yes, as I wrote that line I kinda knew you'd pop up and point at the
Plum documentation...
Just remember that your framework and yours alone is Windows only
and that your packaged documentation uses
Developers
* ColdFusion MX Master Class
* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000
- Original Message -
From: John Paul Ashenfelter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis
On 6/17/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The latest versions of the framework also display a list of
directories in which files are being executed along with CF's debug
output at the bottom of the page, which should help people get the
hang of figuring out what code is executing
On 6/15/05, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In general, Mach-II is better suited for larger projects
Mostly it's an issue of whether the application has a lot of dynamic
state transitions. If you have an application where the control flow
is known at design time and can be expressed
no, because plum is limited to ms sql and I would like something a lil bit
more main frain then onTap for what I will be using it for.
Right now Plum supports MS SQL, Oracle 9i and above, and MS Access. We're
going to be adding MySql and PostGreSQL in the future.
We really should have launched
SmarterLinux provides MySQL 4.0
On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no, because plum is limited to ms sql and I would like something a lil bit
more main frain then onTap for what I will be using it for.
[snip]
What version of MySQL do you mainly use? We may need to support
I don't have a ton experience working in either, but I really prefer an
event-driven framework (in this case, Mach-II) over anything else. This kind
of experience comes in very handy if you ever GUI-based applications and/or
..Net applications.
Matthew Small
Web Developer
American City Business
no, because plum is limited to ms sql and I would like
something a lil bit more main frain then onTap for what I
will be using it for.
main frain? ... you mean main stream?
If it's down to a choice between Mach-II and FB 4 (I'm assuming we're
not talking about FB3) I would probably choose
I'd also (again) like to recommend FuseBuilder for greatly aiding with
the design process for Fusebox applications, its worth its weight in
gold (or maybe the number of lines of code, or something)! Last night I
talk to a new client about using it and he was estatic!
--
Damien McKenna - Web
onTap does a few
things that no other framework does (not that I've seen anyway) that I
find very useful.
Out of curiosity, what are those?
-Joe
--
Get Glued!
The Model-Glue ColdFusion Framework
http://www.model-glue.com
]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:51 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
no, because plum is limited to ms sql and I would like something a lil bit
more main frain then onTap for what I will be using it for.
Right now Plum supports MS SQL, Oracle 9i and above
* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000
- Original Message -
From: dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
Adam, I loved Plum when I was on beta but..
things
with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital
to form a corporation.
From: Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:04 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
Thanks for the feedback, Dave
On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How would you feel if we could get Plum working with MySQL under Mono?
The UI is likely to be the biggest problem since that's the least
portable part of a .NET app at the moment. That was the message at the
SD West talk in March about Mono.
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How would you feel if we could get Plum working with MySQL under Mono?
The UI is likely to be the biggest problem since that's the least
portable part of a .NET app at the moment. That was the message
On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While it does those things, I'm hoping to focus it more as a
framework upon which to build applications. We've taken a lot of advice
from a lot of folks, and we're making some important changes to the core
framework that we've learned from in
On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While it does those things, I'm hoping to focus it more as a
framework upon which to build applications. We've taken a lot of advice
from a lot of folks, and we're making some important changes to the core
framework that we've learned
I was going to ask the same exact question. We have a fairly large ASP
(Application Service Provider) application running on a proprietary
framework. We'd like to build version 2 in some open source framework. We
have already done some of the development in mach ii, and in order to use it
with
I'm wondering which framework is the best for a large ASP
application (basically an app where a lot of the code will
be shared between sites, but certain things will need to
be overridden for certain sites, and certain things will
need to be custom written for certain sites). It would be
Should we throw OnTap, PLUM and any others into this discussion? I
know that they aren't all directly competing, but they are all ways of
streamlining/organising apps.
On 6/16/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what are your opinions on these. Keep in mind I am not Micha and an not
working on
On 6/15/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what are your opinions on these.
While you're at it, why don't you check the newest OO framework: Model
Glue at http://www.model-glue.com/
--
Eddie.
http://awads.net/
~|
Logware
In general, Mach-II is better suited for larger projects, as it's more
complex, and designed at enforced abstraction. For smaller projects,
that can get in the way, but it's very helpful when you got a zillion
components and a bajillion lines of code to manage.
Mach-II is almost always slower
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
On 6/15/05, dave wrote:
what are your opinions on these.
While you're at it, why don't you check the newest OO framework: Model
Glue at http://www.model-glue.com/
--
Eddie.
http://awads.net
16, 2005 1:03 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
In general, Mach-II is better suited for larger projects, as it's more
complex, and designed at enforced abstraction. For smaller projects,
that can get in the way, but it's very helpful when you got a zillion
.
From: James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:34 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
Should we throw OnTap, PLUM and any others into this discussion? I
know that they aren't all directly competing, but they are all ways
Ah, good points. Looks like fusebox is the go, so far.
On 6/16/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no, because plum is limited to ms sql and I would like something a lil bit
more main frain then onTap for what I will be using it for.
~
A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital
to form a corporation.
From: James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:32 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox?
Ah, good
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:12:10 -0500, Matthew Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm writing a security plugin for our mach-ii applications. I need
to be able to halt further event processing if a user is not authenticated
or authorized. This is an event-based security model.
I'm
I have realized that I am having a problem with client variables, but I
don't know why. I get this message when I try to set a client variable:
Message:
The requested scope client has not been enabled.
Details:
Before client variables can be used, the client state management system must
be
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Before client variables can be used, the client state
management system must be enabled using the CFAPPLICATION tag.
You need to set the location for storing the client vars..
]
-Original Message-
From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mach-II client variables
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Before client variables can be used, the client state
management system must
I tried placing the MRU value into both session and client
variables, and enabling client and session variables in the
CFApplication tag, but I just got an error.
As Mike Tangorre mentioned, if you want to use Client variables you will
need to specify where Client variables will be stored.
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:14:25 -0500, Matthew Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, but I've already tried that and it didn't do anything for me. Here
is the present content of my CFAPPLICATION tag:
cfapplication name=mrktPromoTool sessionmanagement=yes
clientmanagement=yes clientStorage =
Not so! I think I've discovered the secret of Mach IV's velocity:
http://www.sinclairintl.com/newsletters/99b7.html
Here is the secret, and I quote:
This little cartridge is a woodchucks nightmare
That comes up with nothing.
That's because it's a joke. Mr. Sherwood has posted many
At 04:56 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
Mach-IV?
Dan
Yeah. It's twice as fast as Mach-II, and roughly 4 times as fast as FuseBox 4.
FuseBox uses the FuseDocs standard, which slows it down a little. With Mach-IV, you
get true MVC coding, together with smart caching that is done through nested
Great idea
On Thursday 04 November 2004 17:51, Kwang Suh wrote:
If people really want it, I'm going to write a very long, detailed
tutorial on using Mach-II sometime in December. I wasn't too satified with
the amount and quality of documentation out there.
I'm curious who is using
That comes up with nothing.
At 04:56 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
Mach-IV?
Dan
Yeah. It's twice as fast as Mach-II, and roughly 4 times as fast as
FuseBox 4.
FuseBox uses the FuseDocs standard, which slows it down a little. With
Mach-IV, you get true MVC coding, together with smart
That comes up with nothing.
That's because it's a joke. Mr. Sherwood has posted many variations on this
joke in the past. I don't really get it myself, but that could be my own
failing.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
At 02:28 PM 11/5/2004, you wrote:
That comes up with nothing.
That's because it's a joke. Mr. Sherwood has posted many variations on this
joke in the past. I don't really get it myself, but that could be my own
failing.
I'm sorry, I just can't help myself. I just find it interesting how a
to a booming defense of the FuseDoc process.
No more Fusbox vs. Mach-II baitingI promise.
Alex
What do you have against the FuseDoc process?
~|
Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net
Laurence J Peter once said that against logic there is no armor like ignorance.
At 02:28 PM 11/5/2004, you wrote:
That comes up with nothing.
That's because it's a joke. Mr. Sherwood has posted many variations
on this
joke in the past. I don't really get it myself, but that could be my
At 03:28 PM 11/5/2004, you wrote:
to a booming defense of the FuseDoc process.
No more Fusbox vs. Mach-II baitingI promise.
Alex
What do you have against the FuseDoc process?
Absolutely nothing. I've always been amazed at the lengthy threads that result from a
defense or criticism of
From: Alexander Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Absolutely nothing. I've always been amazed at the lengthy
threads that result from a defense or criticism of parts of
the different frameworks. I've seen threads where people
swear by FuseDocs and others where FuseDocs are call a huge
At 03:43 PM 11/5/2004, you wrote:
From: Alexander Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Absolutely nothing. I've always been amazed at the lengthy
threads that result from a defense or criticism of parts of
the different frameworks. I've seen threads where people
swear by FuseDocs and others
From: Bob Clingan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm curious who is using
Mach-II...
Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.
I'll raise my hand! Sean Corfield's development guide was my primary
resource to get into it. There is also a forum with a lot of helpful
people (including
If people really want it, I'm going to write a very long, detailed tutorial on using
Mach-II sometime in December. I wasn't too satified with the amount and quality of
documentation out there.
I'm curious who is using Mach-II...
Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.
/me raises hand.
i'd check it out :)
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:51:08 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If people really want it, I'm going to write a very long, detailed tutorial on
using Mach-II sometime in December. I wasn't too satified with the amount and
quality of
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