aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers are there?
How many sites use CF?
Is there a Macromedia rep in the house?
He thinks FrontPage
://www.macromedia.com/
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From: Mark Leder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:26 PM
To: CF-Talk Subject:
Re: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Last week I was at a CF User group with a MM Senior Sales Engineer
(Wigginton?) demoing CF
At 11:52 PM -0500 11/27/01, lsellers wrote:
At 10:19 PM 11/27/2001 -0600, you wrote:
huh. I had to check.
OCTAL ABSOLUTE: A numbering system using eight as a base instead of two, as
in binary, or ten, as in decimal.
It used to be all the rage in the 70's. Back when men were real men and
and complex at the same time when it comes to programming.
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From: lsellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 3:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
At 10:19 PM 11/27/2001 -0600, you wrote:
huh. I had
or enthusiasm.
Thankfully I work in a place that acknowledges this.
Hang in there :)
EC
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From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
I still have
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Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:00:23 -0800
At 11:52 PM -0500 11/27/01, lsellers wrote:
At 10:19 PM 11/27/2001 -0600, you wrote:
huh. I had to check.
OCTAL ABSOLUTE: A numbering system using eight as a base instead of two
At 08:06 AM 11/28/2001 -0600, you wrote:
now it makes sense. 1k of memory. I can almost do the math in my head.
someone should build a web based IBM 650 computer emulator so that we can
program in octal absolute... or early versions of assembler.
you know just so when we go to parties with the
At 9:27 AM -0500 11/28/01, lsellers wrote:
At 08:06 AM 11/28/2001 -0600, you wrote:
now it makes sense. 1k of memory. I can almost do the math in my head.
someone should build a web based IBM 650 computer emulator so that we can
program in octal absolute... or early versions of assembler.
you
can even teach real old dogs new
tricks. As for more CF programmers?
http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?Id=19865method=full
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:40:18 -0600
Justin Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why
aren't there more
CF programmers out
at the design of the
site and having a quick look at the html files!!
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From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2001 12:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Kudos!
This thread is most
Agreed, but I don't think it would mean much these days. They would have
to think too much to accomplish the job!!
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From: lsellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2001 1:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out
: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2001 2:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
At 9:27 AM -0500 11/28/01, lsellers wrote:
At 08:06 AM 11/28/2001 -0600, you wrote:
now it makes sense. 1k of memory. I can almost do the math
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:52:08 -0800, Dick Applebaum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Altair? Northstar? Trash-80?
Almost an altair, but fortunately a TRS Color Computer. I say
fortunately because even though it had an 8-bit cpu (like everything
of the day) it was an odd beast that several 16-bit index
My dad used to do some computer programming in ancient days
when they had analog computers.
I can't wait to hear what my 7 year-old son will be saying about my webdev
work a couple of decades from now. :)
Ken
~~
Get the mailserver that powers
At 11:10 PM 11/28/01 Lewis wrote:
My dad used to do some computer programming in ancient days when they
had analog computers. I've still got some of his old electronics
books. The classes I had in transister-to-transister logics seemed
very similiar. Everything a logic gate. :)
When I took my
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers are there?
How many sites use CF?
Is there a Macromedia rep in the house?
He thinks FrontPage is the way to go
Let the games begin
Frontpage? Um, BARF!
:-)
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From: Justin Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF
: Justin Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 17:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers
aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers are there?
How many sites use CF?
Is there a Macromedia rep in the house?
He thinks FrontPage is the way
Allaire's site also lists all the names of certified developers I believe.
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From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
tell him to get lost
Give him the FrontPage CD and tell him he is correct... and to do it
himself.
T
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From: Justin Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said
213.244.5226
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI !
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From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
tell him to get lost... Frontpage .. is a damn layout
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
He thinks FrontPage is the way to go
If the economy were a little better I might tell you to find a new employer.
FYI - Last I heard, Microsoft is the single largest customer for Allaire
there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers are there?
How many sites use CF?
Is there a Macromedia rep in the house?
He thinks FrontPage is the way
Nov 2001 16:40:18 -0600
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers are there?
How many sites use CF?
Is there a Macromedia rep in the house?
He thinks FrontPage is the way to go
Let
Is this person truly the boss of a web development area? LOL
Are you guys just building static pages?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Justin Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out
, November 27, 2001 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Is this person truly the boss of a web development area? LOL
Are you guys just building static pages?
Dave
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From: Justin Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent
27, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers are there?
How many sites use CF?
Is there a Macromedia rep
]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
don't bother showing him tons of numbers - i mean sure there are a jillion
frontpage users - but what does that mean
simply show him some of the worlds premier brands that run CF
CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
Coldfusion costs money to get into. You either have to buy the server
software or pay an ISP for space. There are no free CF options that I
know
Those of us who are suspicious of compilers and interpreters prefer
programming in Octal Absolute... takes a while, but 0% overhead. %-)
Dick
At 4:40 PM -0600 11/27/01, Justin Hansen wrote:
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why
aren't there more CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers are there?
How many sites use CF?
And the answer is...
Who cares how many there are?
After all, ease of use doesn't necessarily
your colleague no longer sticks in his whiney mouth or elsewhere...
-paris
/cf_rant
-Original Message-
From: Bryant Tyson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 18:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Tony
If ColdFusion was so easy Why...
Front Page is not an application development platform. There are several
simple tags that will allow you to do anything your boss wants to do on the
web. You may just have to educate him/her on the virtues of
CFQUERY/CFOUTPUT/CFMAIL.
These tags are so simple
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Paris Lundis wrote:
Frontpage was nice when the web was 2 years old.. just like the pacifier
your colleague no longer sticks in his whiney mouth or elsewhere...
There was a time when FrontPage was nice? *has his mind boggled*
: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:40 PM
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers out there?
So what do I tell him?
How many CF Developers are there?
How many sites use CF
for a better
J.O.B
Doug
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From: Brunt, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Just did a search on Google for .cfm found 9,100,000
Searched the web
, November 27, 2001 19:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Paris Lundis wrote:
Frontpage was nice when the web was 2 years old.. just like the pacifier
your colleague no longer sticks in his whiney mouth or elsewhere...
There was a time
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From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Sounds like a trick argument to me. Trying to argue the merits of a
product
based on the number
: Douglas L. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 19:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
The higher up is a tight a#$% and doesnt want to spend the money on top of
the line development software. I use to work for someone like
]
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Allaire Alliance Partner
www.allaire.com
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From: Justin Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why
]
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Allaire Alliance Partner
www.allaire.com
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From: Justin Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy
development include ASP, PHP, JSP,
Perl, etc, but that FP is not an option.
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From: Justin Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Those of us who are suspicious of compilers and interpreters prefer
programming in Octal Absolute... takes a while, but 0% overhead. %-)
Dick
At 4:40 PM -0600 11/27/01
No experience with dynamic, wow is that asking for trouble or what?
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From: Justin Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
He is an HTML guy who is kinda
And there are some who still program in Assembly as well!!
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Those of us who are suspicious of compilers
Because that would be like saying that my site is powered by CF Studio!!
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From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 10:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
cf_rant
cfif Frontpage (is so
exactly...
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From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 22:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Because that would be like saying that my site is powered by CF Studio!!
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?
-Craig
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From: Justin Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
A higher up said If ColdFusion was so easy to learn why aren't there more
CF programmers
So what do I tell him?
Can I give him a call?
Eric Dawson
From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:23:46 -0600
Sounds like a trick argument to me
to install FP extensions. (I have it on a box by itself),
not by design really, just worked out that way.
Eric Dawson
From: Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:18:15
At 10:19 PM 11/27/2001 -0600, you wrote:
huh. I had to check.
OCTAL ABSOLUTE: A numbering system using eight as a base instead of two, as
in binary, or ten, as in decimal.
It used to be all the rage in the 70's. Back when men were real men and
programmed in direct machine language. Not that
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