[cfaussie] Schedule tasks in CF8 Cluster

2008-04-11 Thread George Lu
I've got two instances (instance1 2) in a cluster on a CF8 server. My question is should I enable schedule tasks in both instances or just one of instances? Regards, George --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Matt Bourke
There was a reason you down tools and joined bill, its called large ammounts of cash $$$ ka-ching!! M@ Sent from my iPhone On 11 Apr 2008, at 05:47, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I did get promoted and thankfully no more Evangelism. I find the Evangelism scene, political,

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
i got paid less then i was contracting, so no ;) - i joined because I saw potential in XAML and wanted to be as close to it as possible as this time i want to influence change.. now i have that chance ;) On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Matt Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
You know Scott. We have had our debates over time, and at the end of the day. I can't even raise a finger to disagree with you. Your last few posts have been well put, and for someone who technically is the opposition but I long time poster here has seen and done everything that most of us

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
Sean's a top bloke, and i wouldn't bare any grudges or blame his way. I'm sure he fought a lot untold / unsaid battles within the belly of the beast (just like I and others do inside Microsoft silently to the outside world - what you think it's all roses inside the firewall?). I also wouldn't of

[cfaussie] Re: Schedule tasks in CF8 Cluster

2008-04-11 Thread AJ Mercer
If you schedule them for same time, they will both fire off at the same time - can your script handle two simultaneous calls? We have four instances and a task we want run every 15 minutes So instance 1 runs at 00 instance 2 runs at 15 instance 3 runs at 30 instance 4 runs at 45

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Bell
Scott, I must admit I never thought of an MVP style program for adobe but it would be rather good to adopt… Well it would, I could be subject to more applications by the company that I currently don’t use now, nor am I aware that they offer. But I don’t need to preach that to you

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread charlie arehart
I was about to make the same point, Peter, and checked before sending my note to see yours. :-) Here's some more I was going to add: The raw numbers of Adobe Community Experts may not be as high as MVPs, but then the MS pool of developers (across all products) is just that much larger. I

[cfaussie] Re: cfpdf action=merge - CF 8 Update 1

2008-04-11 Thread charlie arehart
Thanks for sharing that, Phil. /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Haeusler Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:41 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] cfpdf action=merge - CF 8 Update 1 Just to let you all know that of a

[cfaussie] rocketunit, and the cfmeetup (was RE: [cfaussie] cfpdf action=merge - CF 8 Update 1)

2008-04-11 Thread charlie arehart
Thanks also for the news of RocketUnit, Phil. I'd missed that and have added it to the list I keep (http://www.carehart.org/resourcelists/tools_to_consider/index.cfm#codetest, along with a few hundred other tools that may be of interest to CFers). Glad to hear you're liking it. So Robin,

[cfaussie] Re: CF 8 Update 1

2008-04-11 Thread charlie arehart
Wow, very helpful. Thanks, Mr B. /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:52 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF 8 Update 1 George, I'm not saying you're wrong, you're just not 100%

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Bell
And as mentioned when this came up on another list recently, I think people do evangelize outside the community. In the last year I presented at ooPSLA '07 in Montreal, the Domain Specific Modeling Forum, the British Computer Society Software Practices Advancement group and Code Generation

[cfaussie] Re: [OT] Dreamweaver - testing files

2008-04-11 Thread charlie arehart
Taco, I don't use the upload feature myself, but I wonder if one of the options in the preferencessites tab may help. Similarly, have you looked at the advanced tab for the site setup? Any of those settings may help. Of course, features may also depend on the version of DW you're running (MX, MX

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread charlie arehart
Good on ya, Pete. :-) And good point about how more may be being done than is recognized. We clearly have a large hill to climb, and it may seem like we're making no progress. Good to point out that there are indeed some efforts underway. /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Sounds like I was confusing mvp with something else L From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Bell Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2008 12:49 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
No offence Peter Charlie, But you are both non Australians, and here in Australia the job market is nonexistent and has been that way for 5 years. The point I made to Sean was simple, if the sales of Coldfusion is stronger than ever before. Why are the jobs for Coldfusion not

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Barry Beattie
But you are both non Australians, and here in Australia the job market is nonexistent and has been that way for 5 years. Andrew, are you talking about raw numbers compared to .NET, Java, PHP? then yes you're right - the available positions at any one time can't compare

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Bell
Hi Andrew, Well, I may not be Australian, but I did just come back from 3 months in Sydney. Anyway, I wasn't debating the job market or the future of ColdFusion, I was just mentioning that the ACE program has similarities to the MVP program and that some CF devs are promoting the

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Barry, No the raw numbers really can't compare, it is a big indication yes. The problem is that and I'll have to say this because it is a catch 22 situation, and the evidence is in what has already been discussed. People are having a hard time finding Coldfusion developers, those who are

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Mandel
those who are coldfusion developers can't find work. I have to disagree on this point. Every AU CF developer I know is gainfully employed. I actually don't see the lack of work in AU. I agree it's becoming increasingly hard to find developers, but in terms of getting employed, it's a real

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Hey Peter, And yes we can't argue that, and people like you, Charlie, Mark, Sean and yes I could type a long list here. Keep the dream alive. But while thinking about it some more, there isn't enough open source applications for Coldfusion. I know there is a lot out there, but not enough

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Mark, True, but how many of these developers are fighting to stay a Coldfusion dveleoper? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2008 9:27 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re:

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Mandel
How does 'if these developers are fighting for CF' mean that there is no work? I'm failing to see the connection, Sorry. I'm not saying there isn't things that can't be fixed, and we could sure use the new blood, and various other bits and pieces. I mean, I've seen you bring up the same issues

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Bell
@Andrew, I'll have to question that both CF devs can't find work and those with work can't find CF devs. Of course, in a fragmented market with inefficient distribution it is possible for there to be both a shortage of developers and a shortage of work in localized areas. If that really

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
LoL... Mark, When I was looking for work a few years ago, the amount of Developers looking for work was more than what jobs were available. Now it is the other way around, now even though the amount of work is not what it was 8-10 years ago, is maybe beside the point. What is the point is that

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Peter, That's the issue, well as far as I see it anyway. And I made this same statement 5 years ago as well. I am coming into the market for a job, I want to be a developer so what do I look at for my career. As soon as you look at the job market, the amount of positions is going to determine

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Chad Renando
And every 2 years, this board arrives at the same outcome of diversification of skills. I will admit that there is value in specialisation bot as a developer and a studio. But unless you are niche or captive, any sort of growth will see a diverse sort of working coming in the door. In any

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Mandel
What is the point is that me as a developer, has struggled to remain a Coldfusion developer in my work place. For the same reason that this is being discussed, the decision was made a year ago that rather than try to get the resources we need to move forward as a company. That we would

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
And in a way that is similar to us. When I started for this company, I had 5 sites I was maintaining in CF. Now I am responsible for one major Intranet Application. At that time there was 3 of us, 2 Java consultants and myself. We made the decision that if we as a company wanted to grow, java

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Ok... Mark, there comes a point in your career that moving to a new company all the time is not building a solid career. Secondly, our company is heading into an area that is exciting and going to be a challenge. I don't see myself a developer for the rest of my life, I am older than most of

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
The difference between an MVP and Adobe CE is folks are measured yearly on their efforts. For example, if you make MVP this year because you did an outstanding job last year (and made the criteria that the independent body agreed upon) it doesn't automatically mean you'll get it next year if you

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Scott.. That's number 3 J From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2008 10:42 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? The

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Robertson
..and, Mark, if it's becoming 'increasingly' difficult, then that suggests that the demand is growing and that employers already with CF haven't just given up and moved to other technologies? Perhaps some growth is inevitable as the overall market grows? Is CF holding any kind of parity in the

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread MrBuzzy
This is exactly what I hate about Microsoft. They blind you with noise, give you a whole lot of crap you don't need. Using ASP.net and such is a massive assumption that the general populous will continue to use Windows. There's a few people at Gartner saying Windows is dead :) Scott you do make

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Well, I don't fully agree with that. From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2008 11:06 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? This is

[cfaussie] Coldfusion 8U1 and Vista

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Well I removed the beta update 1, on my Vista 64bit which was working fine. Now downloaded the new 64Bit release, and ran it installed with no errors, go to /cfide/administrator and get HTTP Error 500.0 - Internal Server Error Description: The page cannot be displayed because an internal

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Robertson
It looks like Scott has clearly spent a good deal of time considering his posts, and if we drill in, his points could be seen as constructive as easily as not. Individually, we might or might not like the whole MS ethos, but we would have to acknowledge that there may be things of worth to be

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread MrBuzzy
Was it this part? Scott you do make some good points. I'm happy to retract it. On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:18 AM, CyberAngel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't fully agree with that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin
Well, I DO fully agree with that. Microsoft has ALWAYS done everything possible to crush any potential competition. Im sorry to say, This thread is full of BS. CF is the sleeping giant here. And it scares Microsoft just enough to send their preachers out. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:18 PM,

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Sorry, Hit the send button to quickly.. This part This is exactly what I hate about Microsoft. They blind you with noise, give you a whole lot of crap you don't need. I think that it is a good idea, you can ignore the noise or you can embrace it when you need it. But yes Scott made

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
*rolls eyes*.. yes that's right, we're so afraid that I secretly joined this list 9+ years ago, waited out my time for this point to seize the day. Bill called me last night and stated Scott, CF is likely to make a comeback, and it's keeping me up at night.. i really need your help on this one

[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8U1 and Vista

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01572.html All answers to your solutions are found within Google/Live Search.. embrace this new found knowledge and go conquer the world! :) hehe On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:19 AM, CyberAngel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I removed the beta

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Chad Renando
Reminds me of when I was a kid and got beat up, my mom used to say they were just jealous. I love my mom, but she was wrong. They were bigger, stronger, quicker, and I was crunched. Hope you're not considering me in that plural there. I have thought about following the preacher career path,

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin
Hmmm sensitive guy. Personally, I love .NET, and develop quite extensively on it. I also love JAVA, PHP, ROR.. and many others. I also know bashing any single one of these languages is total BS. Make sure to call Bill and tell him I already dev in .NET and I am an avid MS user. This does seem a

[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8U1 and Vista

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Scott. Did you miss the point of me saying that I had the Beta installed and working fine? And did you miss that I downloaded nte new 64bit release? And I thought you we had been on a role and you go and do that to meJ For everyone else's info, I can install the beta 64bit Coldfusion

[cfaussie] New ACT Adobe Products User Group

2008-04-11 Thread Rae
Hi Guys, All of you who were on the old ACT CF User Group, please join the new group mentioned above, yes we cover CF! Visit http://www.actapug.org which is the group blog. join the group at http://groups.google.com.au/group/actapug Cheers, Rae

[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8U1 and Vista

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
my humble apologies ;) i missed the beta context. It shouldn't make a difference but... whom knows. On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM, CyberAngel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott… Did you miss the point of me saying that I had the Beta installed and working fine? And did you miss that I

[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8U1 and Vista

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
No it shouldn't but it does for some unknown reason. From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2008 12:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8U1 and Vista my humble apologies ;) i

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
Kevin, If you're going to make a stand, then do so with commitment. Firstly, MrBuzzy stated he hated Microsoft blah blah, to which Andrew stated he disagreed with what was stated which you then followed with - in your own words - Well, I *DO* fully agree with that. You even made a point of using

[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8U1 and Vista

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
Well this maybe a after the fact tip, but in future i'd recommend you install beta products on virtual machines. In the event an RTM/RTW occurs you can swap out your code base on a fresh install. Thus removing the headache your in now ;) On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM, CyberAngel [EMAIL

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Kai Koenig
Mr Buzzy, sorry to disagree, but that's not what Scott is doing here at the moment (not this time, LOL :) - actually I think he has raised a few very good points in regards to ColdFusion and its situation in Australia. BTW: If you think that CF is bad in Aussie, come to New Zealand for a

[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8U1 and Vista

2008-04-11 Thread CyberAngel
Hehe. For others maybe. but this is my personal machine, and it doesn't matter I have a server for that as well. But here is what I did. 1) Was working on some code, realised I still had the beta and uninstalled. 2) Installed full release for 64bit 3) Said WTF?

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin
Well.. I'm sorry I came across that way. My comment was taken out of context though. But I can still hate MS and still love their tech. I don't like Adobe too much either. But again..I love their tech. I know that seems a bit wishy-washy..But its the truth. Obviously there are some pretty

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread MrBuzzy
It's subliminal :O On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Kai Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's not what Scott is doing here at the moment (not this time, LOL :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
shhh.. if you let them in on the secret they'll think about putting tinfoil hats on and then i can't read their minds from HQ.. :) On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:27 PM, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's subliminal :O On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Kai Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread charlie arehart
I'm really not looking to pick a fight, but folks keep praising the points Scott made, yet I found quite a few that I'd contend: The difference between an MVP and Adobe CE is folks are measured yearly on their efforts. For example, if you make MVP this year because you did an outstanding

[cfaussie] Re: [OT] Dreamweaver - testing files

2008-04-11 Thread Kay Smoljak
I'm not exactly sure what you mean... when you upload a file open it will go to whichever 'view' you last had selected. So if you've specified a testing server, and choose 'testing server view' from the drop down at the top of the files panel, then when you hit 'put' (ctrl-shift-u) it will go to

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Kai Koenig
Charlie, you're right with a few of your remarks and I think no one has said Scott is totally right, let's all jump ship because MSFT and .NET is much better anyway :-) But imho it's reality that the recent and often talked about boom in CF8 sales, adoption and cool projects doesn't seem to

[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?

2008-04-11 Thread Scott Barnes
*cracks knuckles* ..oh it's on Chad, it's on like Donkey Kong! :) hehh. - Adobe CE Program is as I say, Apples vs Oranges.I see firsthand more benefits in the MVP over Adobe CE and consider it a point of difference in our offering, now what does that have to do with the current thread.