Cocoon Warnings when starting in JBoss 3.0

2003-01-22 Thread Robert Simmons
I deployed cocoon by basically dropping it in my jboss deployment directory. When i started the appserver, I got the following traces in the console. The ones that I am wondering about are the (Unknown-URI) Unknown-thread messages. Anyone know what's up ? -- Robert Begin relevant logged

Cocoon Warnings when starting in JBoss 3.0

2003-01-22 Thread Robert Simmons
I deployed cocoon by basically dropping it in my jboss deployment directory. When i started the appserver, I got the following traces in the console. The ones that I am wondering about are the (Unknown-URI) Unknown-thread messages. Anyone know what's up ? -- Robert Begin relevant logged

Question on Usability of Cocoon in a Distributed application.

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Simmons
Greetings. I currently have a distributed application that uses Session beans for most of its work. I am a cocoon user in that the session bean returns XML and then cocoon magically transforms it using XSL into the html that I want. In order to accomplish this, I have a servlet running

WYSIWYG XSLT Editors?

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Simmons
Greetings, I have downloaded theevaluation version of eXcelon Stylus Studio and am enjoying it. What I wanted to know was who are their competitors for WYSIWYG XSLT editing and other XML editing. I would like to see as many products as I can before I decide on a purchase. -- Robert

The simplest possible cocoon application?

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Simmons
I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss 3.0.4 server. It works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an XML and an XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction. When I go to the URL inside the war and hit the XML page, the translation is made

Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Simmons
- Original Message - From: Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cocoon Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:02 AM Subject: Re: The simplest possible cocoon application? On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: I currently have the cocoon war

Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Simmons
That is the impression thatI am getting and I'm curious as to feedback from list users. Basically my experience is one of confusion. I downloaded the war and deployed it. The samples and stuff deploy fine but now where does one go from there? The samples and tutorials are splattered all

Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Simmons
- From: Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cocoon Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:02 AM Subject: Re: The simplest possible cocoon application? On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss

Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
I think you might already be there. Currently the concept of cocoon is a great one. I create a piepline and cocoon shunts it from a to b, applying the transforms and so on. Great development effort. Pardon the language but its a shitty user effort. Just look at one of your paragraphs in the

Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
understood in order provide extensions that satisfies a particular need. IMHO, Cocoon´s leaning curve is not steep, assuming that the -DEVELOPER- knows XML, XSL, Namespaces, DTD, SCHEMA, HTTP,Servlets and JAVA/OOP. -Mensagem original- De: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviada em

Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
: Cocoon is too complex for consumption? Robert Simmons wrote: Lastly, flaming is not an option. These are the opinions from a newbie comming into cocoon. Readers of this list can flame all they want but that is just hiding from the very real problems. Robert, I can only give you one advise

Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
Great. Thanks for the information. However the questions are still thick as pea soup. If I don't want to deploy all the cocoon jars in my war, I have to put them somewhere. It has been suggested that I put them in the tomcat lib directory. Ok fine, then how does one configure it? My goal is to

Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
Thanks for the reply. I still, however, cant figure out how to get a hello world working on a clean war without all of the other crap in the cocoon war. The configuration file is just plain staggering to say the least. And looking at some pages that use cocoon, I'm starting to have second

Re: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
Java and C++ both have places to start. You can get a Hello World up in about 5 minutes. If you take the attitude don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, then people will head out and make sure the aforementioned door doesn't strike. This isn't a game. Its not a toy. Its not

Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
Robert Simmons dijo: No professional dev wants, or has the time, to blow 2 to three weeks just to get separation of logic and presentation. How you think a Professional developer do that? I ended my Master Degree in Computer Science in 1995 just before Java hits the streets and Windows 95

Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
10 minutes ? Some 30 hours later I still haven't figured out what I need to go minimal. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Perry Molendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:46 AM Subject: Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption? The fact is

Re: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
The biggest concept that has me is. Ok so this is cocoon including everything but the kitchen sink... so where do I start on my OWN site? Do I need to copy this enormous cocoon config file? Haven't they ever heard of defaults? Do I really need to hand modify all his stuff? Why is everyone telling

Re: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
for the evening. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:01 AM Subject: RE: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ? -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
Hi Robert - Ok, my turn to weigh in. First off, one first principle about any technology is that it's usability and suitability are largely subjective. Over the years, I have found that many technologies - JSP, EJBs, PHP, Perl/CGI, ActiveX, etc. - can work great if YOU like them and know

Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
Robert Simmons wrote: GOOD! This is my idea of the right attitude. People seem to fail to realize that if I didn't see the potential of the product, I wouldn't bother wasting several hours of my time typing up very long emails on the subject. I can see that you do indeed care

Redeploy in JBoss Causes Hang

2003-01-25 Thread Robert Simmons
Greetings. When I remove the cocoon.war from my JBoss Deployment directory and then put it back in, the application says that it deploys correctly but when I try to access the cocoon page, it takes quite a long time (over a minute) to see the welcome page. What's going on here? -- Robert

Single JAR with all the libs?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
Is there a way to compress all the cocoon jars into one jar so I can just drop in my application server like a golf ball and all cocoon deployments will have access to it ? -- Robert

Re: Single JAR with all the libs?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
, - Luca Morandini GIS Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html - -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January

Re: Single JAR with all the libs?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
, - Luca Morandini GIS Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html - -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Smileys Cocoon sample

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
Hmm well that is what im getting to .. im pretty much on today tinkering with cocoon trying to get a build that will be a bit more deployable to the newb. What i want is for readers of my book (which Im writing on SERVER side issues (as in EJB) to be able to download everything and run the sucker.

Re: Single JAR with all the libs?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
Ok I yanked the manifest file from WEB-INF and it all still seems to work, though I don't know about in the full cocoon deployment. Is there any JUnit built into this sucker? -- Robert - Original Message - From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Smileys Cocoon sample... the sequel

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
I do all my database work in the EJBs on the server side using JDO. JDO is basically god for persisting Java objects. =) I can probably figure out how to connect the suckers. In fact if I'm not too far off I can drop them in the container and just grab an initial context. However what I'm trying

Re: Smileys Cocoon sample... the sequel

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
- -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Smileys Cocoon sample... the sequel I do all my database work in the EJBs

Re: Smileys Cocoon sample... the sequel

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
than a presentation tier. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Luca Morandini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cocoon-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: RE: Smileys Cocoon sample... the sequel -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Single JAR with all the libs? - rejar the distrib ...

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
knowledge here, but since this is kind of special i wouldn't bother this list and do this offline. just drop me an email. regards, hussayn hope, that helps Robert Simmons wrote: Is there a way to compress all the cocoon jars into one jar so I can just drop in my application server like

Re: Single JAR with all the libs? - rejar the distrib ...

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
Incidentally you should probably index that jar since it will have lots of classes and make the classloader throw fits trying to find things. Performance wise its best to index. - Original Message - From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

CatalogManager.properties in WEB-INF/classes ??

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
What is this file for and can it be omitted from the package? If it cant be omitted is it something that the user should be editing? -- Robert

Cocoon 2.1 the usability release?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
Given the recent discussion about the difficulty getting into cocoon, I am wondering if we should start an initiative to make a maintenance release for cocoon that would have a focus on usability for new users. The following is a list of features I propose for this release. 1) A binary

Re: Single JAR with all the libs? - rejar the distrib ...

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
Attached is an incomplete attempt at building the jar. I don't have time to figure out how to convert the fileset into the space delimited list of files needed for the classpath attribute. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: Cocoon 2.1 the usability release?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
documentation, by the way, is basically what is listed if you look at the package page in the API for the various components. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Robert Simmons To: Cocoon Users Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:23 AM Subject: Cocoon 2.1 the usability

URI of the Sitemap Schema?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
Greetings, Is there a uri for a sitemap schema that users can use to validate the sitemap during development ? If so, Id like to have it. TIA -- Robert

Re: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ?

2003-01-26 Thread Robert Simmons
We might consider smacking the developers around to start commenting things. Pretend you are writing generator for the first time and you are looking at the API documentation for documentation on what the parameters are to the AbstractGenerator.setup() method. After you are done looking at

Getting a generator class to reload.

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
I am working to create a custom generator and I have deployed my WAR in exploded format. The problem is that now when I change the class file that the generator uses, cocoon keeps using the old class file. How can I get the classloader in cocoon to reload the class? -- Robert

Re: Getting a generator class to reload.

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
a generator class to reload. On Monday 27 January 2003 16:21, Robert Simmons wrote: I am working to create a custom generator and I have deployed my WAR in exploded format. The problem is that now when I change the class file that the generator uses, cocoon keeps using the old class file. How can

Re: Getting a generator class to reload.

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
, - Luca Morandini GIS Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html - -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9

Re: Getting a generator class to reload.

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
with tomcat to only reload the changed resources while keeping the webapp up and running, but i never found the howto... regards, hussayn Robert Simmons wrote: Nope .. didn't work. Still has the old class cached. I hope I don have to redeploy the whole damn thing every time I update a class

Re: Cocoon 2.1 the usability release?

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Cocoon 2.1 the usability release? On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:28:30AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: One other feature would be more extensive documentation in the API. To see what I mean, look at the class level documentation

Re: Cocoon User Meeting - Wuerzburg - Germany

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
I currently live in Munich and I believe in this technology enough to consider beating it in the head until its user friendly. =) After I get my book done (almost damnit!!!) I will be volunteering to work on some usability stuff if they will have me. -- Robert - Original Message - From:

Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
What I don't get is why not put the new documentation in cocoon distribution? Everything else is in there: *smirk* Cocoon is built for web publishing, we could conspire to write volumes right in the product. Which reminds me, anyone know a word processor that saves primarily in XML and is good?

Re: Single JAR with all the libs?

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
, - Luca Morandini GIS Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html - -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday

Re: [OT] Re: Single JAR with all the libs?

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
the libs? On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:17:07PM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: Does anyone know how, in Ant, to take a fileset and convert it to a space delimited list of files? Something like: pathconvert property=list dirsep= path refid=... /pathconvert --Jeff -- Robert

Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
as well as the new MSOffice. Then again, WYSIWYG HTML Editors - Tidy works great too. Manos Robert Simmons wrote: What I don't get is why not put the new documentation in cocoon distribution? Everything else is in there: *smirk* Cocoon is built for web publishing, we could conspire to write

Fantastic!!!! My first Generator that connects to an EJB.

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
This sucker connects to an EJB which runs the given JDO query and returns the set of found objects from the database. Best of all it works See the two attached files. Next thing you know I will be writing something useful. O_O -- Robert SmileyAdminView.java Description: Binary data

Re: newbies documentation - yet another wiki?

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
enjoy XML-SPY, although it's tied to MS... regards, hussayn Robert Simmons wrote: Ya, I know MSoffice can save into HTML. I want it to save into XML. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Simmons
In my opinion cocoon needs to start architecting itself towards four types of cocoon consumers: Presentation Developer: This person uses editors to define style sheets for transforming data into presentation layers. This user should not be concerned with the extension mechanism of cocoon. In a

Re: Cocoon Job opps in Frankfurt, Germany

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Strange that I did a search on gulp.de and monster.de for Cocoon and came up empty. Where are you guys hearing about these contracts? -- Robert - Original Message - From: Jeremy Aston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: RE: Cocoon Job

Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Just a warning. There has been a study recently that quite well confirms that using popups in a commercial web site is a good way to drive traffic AWAY from that site. Personally, they annoy the shit out of me. If I really needed to get my penis enlarged Id look it up on google.de. Getting offered

Re: IDE for cocoon

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Well I don't have money to buy any tools. Usually I have to get companies to buy them. However as a suggestion, fi you are trying to get more customers, Id investigate a way to integrate your concepts with open platforms like NetBeans or eclipse. Breaking people off from their normal IDEs is

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Id be happy to write up some stuff on connecting to EJB servers now that I have actually figured out how to do it. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:02 AM Subject: Re: proposal: The Newbies

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
I don't think that the word newbie is such a stigma. People know when they are newbies and not. Rarely do people take it offensively unless its an outside person telling them that they are a newbie. In fact people can take it tongue in cheek as the for Dummies or Idiots guide to ... books show.

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Hmm .. where do I find this? -- Robert - Original Message - From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center Hy, the Cocoon Competence Center is Born ;-) I have

Preloading parts of cocoon.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Greetings. Whenever I change a page in my sitemap and redeploy, I notice that the first time I hit a page it takes cocoon a few seconds to start the page. Is there any way we can get cocoon to preprocess this stuff at deployment time so that the users only see instant results ? -- Robert

Re: proposal: The Newbies Competence Center

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Incidentally, I find that when I hit the Wiki page, I don't see half of the left menu until I pass my mouse over the links. IE6 problem? -- Robert - Original Message - From: Derek Hohls To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:00 AM Subject:

XML - XSL Editors?

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
What are the best XML and XSLT editors on the market. I'm looking for something that is easy to use and offers the chance to edit XSL in a WYSIWYG style. I tried XML Spy but it is not so easy to use. I couldn't even figure out how to get an XSL preview to work properly. It wanted me to

Re: Cocoon Job opps in Frankfurt, Germany

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
. -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 January 2003 21:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cocoon Job opps in Frankfurt, Germany Strange that I did a search on gulp.de and monster.de for Cocoon and came up empty

Re: XML - XSL Editors?

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
=newsfile=articlesid= 202 By the way, what is the name of your future book? Antonio Gallardo. Antonio Gallardo dijo: Robert Simmons dijo: What are the best XML and XSLT editors on the market. I'm looking for something that is easy to use and offers the chance to edit XSL in a WYSIWYG

Re: Cocoon Job opps in Frankfurt, Germany

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Ahhh ... well ... Im a tad more expensive than that. =) I was gettign 80 USD per hour in colorado before I moved to germany and took a perm job. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:28 AM Subject:

Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
2 windows? On Wednesday 29 January 2003 05:21, Robert Simmons wrote: Just a warning. There has been a study recently that quite well confirms that using popups in a commercial web site is a good way to drive traffic AWAY from that site. Personally, they annoy the shit out of me. If I really

Re: XML - XSL Editors?

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
will speak good about Cocoon and is fabulous community with 7-24 support on-line. in your book. ;-) Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo. Robert Simmons dijo: Hmm, well my book has very little to do with cocoon. Its an advanced java book. id be suprised if I mentioned more than a couple pages

XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Greetings. I would like to know what people favor using. By my, admittedly limited, knowledge, the traditional HTML forms will still work with cocoon as the request will still have access to the data. Alternatively if I use XMLForms, I'm not sure how much learning effort Id have to

Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
- From: Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:39 AM Subject: Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms. On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:16, Robert Simmons wrote: Greetings. I would like to know what people favor using. By my, admittedly limited

Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
know an reference implementation of an xforms browser? regards Lars -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Januar 2003 11:50 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms. Well actually I

Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:59 AM Subject: RE: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms. -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] As for multi-content, I could easily write a transform that converts things to WML

Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms. -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] As for multi-content, I could easily write a transform that converts

Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
the xmlform tags to html form tags, as long as there are not to many browser out, which are understanding xforms, which are still in draft. BTW does anybody know an reference implementation of an xforms browser? regards Lars -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
If there is any overlap, I'm not aware of it. Cocoon is XML centric and not Java centric. What I'm thinking of is a way to drive XML with Java. So if you had a bean like ... public class ChangeAge extends Command { private int age; private String name; // getter and setters. } Than a java

Re: XMLForms Versus Traditional HTML forms.

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
HTML forms. On Wednesday 29 January 2003 13:11, Robert Simmons wrote: Hmm .. I cant seem to even find the samples on my cocoon installation. Are they not in the current binary distribution ? Provided you have dropped the cocoon.war into $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps, you should find samples

Re: Cocoon Job opps in Frankfurt, Germany

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Yes, my rates had to fall recently by about 12k Euros per year permanent. Its really irritating. Don't worry, it will pick back up soon. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Jeremy Aston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:49 AM Subject: RE: Cocoon

Form processign and control flow?

2003-01-29 Thread Robert Simmons
Well, my newbieness to cocoon continues as does my frustration. Anyway, another burning question. I have a series of forms with pseudo code such as if (user invokes edit) { open edit form; on submit of form { attempt to execute change. if (attempt succeeds) route to view page.

Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-29 Thread Robert Simmons
Greetings, I have added the following information to the cocoon competence center page on installing cocoon. Please feel free to review the following sections and smack me around if I said anything incorrect. The new sections are. *Deploying on an application server. *What is essential?

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-29 Thread Robert Simmons
On the same topic, I am more distressed at this editing policy. Someone could easily be malicious and log in and erase everything. Are we sure there isn't a better way to do this? -- Robert - Original Message - From: Robert Simmons To: Cocoon Users Sent: Thursday

XSP Compiler Issue: Class Not found

2003-01-29 Thread Robert Simmons
Greetings. I decided that I wanted to try writing an XSP page. I know about logicsheets but just to start I figured Idgo the brute force approach. The following is theXSP page. ?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?xsp:page language="java" xmlns:xsp="http://apache.org/xsp"

Re: XSP Compiler Issue: Class Not found

2003-01-29 Thread Robert Simmons
- From: Robert Simmons To: Cocoon Users Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:47 AM Subject: XSP Compiler Issue: Class Not found Greetings. I decided that I wanted to try writing an XSP page. I know about logicsheets but just to start I figured Idgo the brute force approach

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Simmons
this is an add on page ? if nobody complains, i will move your contribs to another page, but keep the super esssentials in the doc (and point to the new pages where relevant) is that ok for you Robert? regards, Hussayn Robert Simmons wrote: Greetings, I have added the following

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Simmons
: - use cocoon in my own projects - help cocoon users to get a clear understanding with less frustrations I'm still happy with cocoon and im still only using the very basics. I am curious where i can get with XSP and ESQL ;-) regards, hussayn Robert Simmons wrote: Fine ... I'm

Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Simmons
I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that cocoon is not ready for professional development. Unlike tomcat, or Ant, this product has serious things blocking its use in production systems. I personally am completely and utterly stopped by the classpath bug indicated here:

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Simmons
From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is not cocoon's power or anything else that I'm arguing with. There is an extremely serious bug in cocoon that is causing me to not be able to use it at all. It is clear that cocoon was developed to be a single solution and to not integrate

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Simmons
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: RE: Cocoon Competence Center Updates -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cocoon

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Simmons
Robert Simmons wrote: I have seen a plethora of new people come on this list and then just vanish. Comments are invited. That's a quick decision for someone who has been around here for only 2 weeks: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?a=10426232413r=1w=2 I have put in 14 to 16 hours

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Simmons
Sorry. To say I've had a bad week would be a massive understatement. Today was just not the right day to flame me. If he had done it yesterday I would have ignored him. But my mail was just as uncalled for as his. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Sorin Marti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Simmons
re i can get with XSP and ESQL ;-) regards, hussayn Robert Simmons wrote: Fine ... I'm beginning to loose interest to be honest. Right now I cant do anything with XSP with cocoon at all. because of the classpath bug it looks like two weeks of my work a

2.1 ? Release date and stabiltiy?

2003-02-01 Thread Robert Simmons
I was wondering if there has been a target release date set for 2.1. Additionally what experiences have people had with the current CVS builds of 2.1 ? Is it stable in core functionality ? -- Robert

Sitemap Tag Reference

2003-02-01 Thread Robert Simmons
Is there a reference manualto the sitemap schema and tags ? If you, I would appreciate a link. -- Robert

To the Columbia and her crew.

2003-02-02 Thread Robert Simmons
for the loss of their loved ones. We would only ask that in your moment of grief, you remember not how they died, but how they lived. -- Robert Simmons jr. -- Senior Software Engineer -- American Living in Munich, Germany

Re: [XML EDITOR] Netbeans

2003-02-02 Thread Robert Simmons
I use NetBeans. It has a good XML editor built into it but it would do well to add a WYSIWYG XSLT editor. So you can go write it. =) -- Robert - Original Message - From: Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:47 AM Subject: [XML EDITOR]

Re: Cocoon 2 with jboss-3.0.4_tomcat-4.1.12

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
The manifest is located, strangely enough, in the WEB-INF directory of the latest release version of the war. You will have to use the entries in that manifest to create your own war. Please look at the -m option to the jar command or, better yet, the ant jar task. -- Robert Hello! thx for

Re: cocoon struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
I dont think that using struts would be useful within an efficient cocoon site. Cocoon takes another approach to web development that is, in my opinion, superior to the jsp/struts approach. I do admit that the learnign curve is high. in fact many on this list can tell you that ive been beatign up

Re: Simple example

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
Once more ? =) Its in progress. Right now beginner documentation is a little thin. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Stefan Riegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: Re: Simple example Alireza Fattahi wrote: Hi, The

Re: cocoon struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
together Robert Simmons dijo: I dont think that using struts would be useful within an efficient cocoon site. Cocoon takes another approach to web development that is, in my opinion, superior to the jsp/struts approach. Thanks for the comment. I was trying to start learning about this stuff

Re: curious problem with new instalation--where are the XML files?

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
I'm afraid you are a bit confused. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I just installed Cocoon on my system and I have an interesting problem. I copied the war package into ~/jboss-3.0.4_tomcat-4.1.12/server/default/deploy and restarted the server using the script: No

Re: Simple example / XML / XSLT In production

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
. Adrian Boston -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Simple example / XML / XSLT In production Huh? JSP has no object hierarchy. JSP is basically a way to write a servlet without

Re: Simple example / XML / XSLT In production

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
disco, I'd recommend stay away from Ferrari's. Move on up to a Porsche. -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Simple example / XML / XSLT In production Comparing JAVA to XML is roughly

Re: [OT] RE: cocoon struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cocoon struts together Actually I'm an EJB specialist and I don't generally work on projects conducive to web interfaces. The complexity level of the stuff I do is too

Re: cocoon struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
speach. I saw you now as a Cocoon fan! :-) You finally saw the light at the end of the pipeline. ;-) Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo. Robert Simmons dijo: Actually I'm an EJB specialist and I don't generally work on projects conducive to web interfaces. The complexity level of the stuff I

Re: Simple example / XML / XSLT In production

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
post: a) not my opinion. b) xml is cool. If you want to comment on your xml success in your production systems, great, otherwise, drsvp. -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Simple

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