Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Dunford
To bring it back on topic, Natal looks like it could have quite a bit of latency I'm not sure about that. I noticed a bit of latency in a few places, but not everywhere. As I recall, the live demo at E3 in which the girl was batting at balls with her hands and feet looked very responsive, but

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Dunford
Wii obviously has M$ terrified. Nintendo is making big bucks while M$ is investing big bucks, but losing money on the deal. The question is whether the computer was responding to the movements of the people or whether some well-rehearsed people were following along with a pre-recorded

Re: [CGUYS] OT: how to incorporate yourself quickly?

2009-06-03 Thread Roy Ackerman,Ph.D.,P.Ch.E.,E.A.
Tom said it well. Nowadays, you can incorporate (locally) for between $ 250 and $ 500 on the low end and $ 1000 and $ 1 on the high end. The difference- is the agent you employ. Is there really a difference between an entity that does it for $ 250 and one that does it for $ 10K- perhaps.

Re: [CGUYS] Bing Bong

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Dunford
reviews by M$ minions who had nothing but praise and the party line. Google showed me a much more independent set of results -- reviewers who had tried Natal and found that some things worked and others things didn't. CNet is hardly an M$ minion.

Re: [CGUYS] Capturing HD video from mini-DV tapes

2009-06-03 Thread b_s-wilk
We'll probably output for several formats, for web use for promotional DVD's. I wasn't in on the planning session, so I don't know how much they would charge to convert it to standard def. Why not ask them to output as high def DVD movie [UTF w/VIDEO_TS] on DL disks, and deliver the disks to

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread mike
Aisha Tyler twittered that Natal was really cool after spending time using it at E3. I know anyone who disagrees with Tom's World™ is an MS stooge but I think the rest of us can agree Tyler isn't much of a stooge. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: The question is

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have no idea who she is or how the program works. But I did see it is not one released yet. EA Sports Active is a game that is presently in production and on the shelf's. I am neither an MFB or WFB, I just happen to know that MS very often has vapor ware for software and do not want to

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Dunford
I am neither an MFB or WFB, I just happen to know that MS very often has vapor ware for software and do not want to put my hopes in something until it is real life. They don't release development kits for vaporware--but they have for Natal. I'm the last one to argue that MS hasn't shown

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Understood but it is still in development. What I was talking about on the Wii is in PRODUCTION! Stewart At 12:20 PM 6/3/2009, you wrote: I am neither an MFB or WFB, I just happen to know that MS very often has vapor ware for software and do not want to put my hopes in something until it

Re: [CGUYS] Capturing HD video from mini-DV tapes

2009-06-03 Thread Tony B
This can be difficult, depending of course on the amount of product. A 4.7g DVD can only hold some 15 minutes of HDV .m2t files. Tremendous hassle to split those up and burn them. Of course, if both parties had blu-ray drives the problem is solved. A common form of distribution now for shorter

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
What part of development do you not understand. No game is on the shelf for sale featuring this technology. NONE! The stuff I have been talking about is all in production and is on the shelves or will be within the week. (Tiger Woods 10) I do not doubt it has been sent out to developers,

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread mike
No, he said they sent out developers units so game companies can code for it. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Understood but it is still in development. What I was talking about on the Wii is in PRODUCTION! Stewart At 12:20 PM

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread mike
You are starting to sound like Tom, I usually don't expect insults from you. Calm down Rev.. You said you had seen much that was vaporware, my point was that it was already in production, already in the pipeline. It's not been released yet, but it will be. It's not a development tool, the

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Understood but this started off by making claims for the Xbox that have since been shown to be in development. Each game platform seems to have it's endorsers and its detractors. The Wii started off as the first (or let's say the most recent) interactive game console. it continues to develop

Re: [CGUYS] Capturing HD video from mini-DV tapes

2009-06-03 Thread b_s-wilk
One may claim that it's difficult to output an HD product on DL disks, although I disagree, having done some HD video. It's irresponsible to do half a job. In no way should the final product be the raw DV tapes. Nor should the end product be compressed at MPEG4 unless requested by the client.

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread mike
Well...it's kinda hard for you to start dictating the terms of the thread, especially when Chris started it and in the first email it was clear he was talking about something not yet on the shelf. I personally would not compare the Wii and the Xbox, I've said before that I don't believe the two

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I did not see that in his note sorry. He seemed to be putting down the Wii which has developed a pretty good set of games to the Xbox which still has one in development. Sometimes it is fun sometimes it is frustrating. The way that Cell phone companies play games I get very frustrated. If

Re: [CGUYS] Capturing HD video from mini-DV tapes

2009-06-03 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 3, 2009, at 4:18 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: No matter what the imagined hassle, the project shouldn't be left unfinished for the client. It's also irresponsible to expect a client to buy a Blu-ray player. If they give unfinished video on tape, they should lend a camera to the client for

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 3, 2009, at 4:56 PM, mike wrote: Well...it's kinda hard for you to start dictating the terms of the thread, especially when Chris started it and in the first email it was clear he was talking about something not yet on the shelf. WARNING: This thread is restricted to fawning praise

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread mike
Very Very. I think the collective cell phone company motto is, we aren't happy unless you aren't happy. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I did not see that in his note sorry. He seemed to be putting down the Wii which has developed a

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Dunford
Understood but this started off by making claims for the Xbox that have since been shown to be in development. Rev, with all due respect. I linked to a demo at E3, where it was pretty clear that this wasn't something you could buy today. I also referred to it as Project Natal, which is not a

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Dunford
WARNING: This thread is restricted to fawning praise of Microsoft's demo of a technology that does not yet exist. Any doubt or suggestion that it is not Double Plus Good is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. You have been warned. Stop being a jerk.

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread b_s-wilk
I've been looking at the Nokia N79 to replace my mobile phone and camera. It has WiFi and GSM; the WiFi lets me use Skype, GSM for my T-Mobile account. Found it at Dell, of all places. I'll get a DuoSIM to hold two SIM cards. There are some combo smart phones that have GSM and CDMA, probably

Re: [CGUYS] Xbox Natal

2009-06-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You got it. Especially when I am out clubbing. :-) Stewart At 09:35 PM 6/3/2009, you wrote: I've been looking at the Nokia N79 to replace my mobile phone and camera. It has WiFi and GSM; the WiFi lets me use Skype, GSM for my T-Mobile account. Found it at Dell, of all places. I'll get a

Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...

2009-06-03 Thread Jeff Wright
Looks like a great place, Rev, it's a shame that it's gone. What a list of bands that played there! -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- l...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Rev. Stewart Marshall Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:15 AM To:

Re: [CGUYS] When I think know...

2009-06-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yeah it was. But those were the days were they not? I hate to use the term, but those were the good old days Those were the days I did my clubbing. Been a long time since then. Stewart At 10:31 PM 6/3/2009, you wrote: Looks like a great place, Rev, it's a shame that it's gone. What a

[CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - Microsoft, Sony take aim at Nintendo Wii at E3

2009-06-03 Thread Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
aim at Nintendo Wii at E3 http://my.earthlink.net/article/tec?guid=20090603/4a25f540_3ca6_1552620090603-1121985063 = myEarthLink News http://my.earthlink.net/channel/NEWS