On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Any person has the same view of my
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 03:22, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 22:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
In my estimation, you have completely misrepresented the discussion that was
going on here by substituting your own wishful thinking and by using out of
context comments by people committed to
On 10 Feb 2003, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco
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On Monday 10 February 2003 12:22 am, Steve Fox wrote:
The only thing in doubt is the reference
to 'Mandrake developers', which makes it sound like Mandrakesoft
employees were in this discussion, which they were not.
The article insinuates that the
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On Monday 10 February 2003 03:15 am, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Stupid estimation! My name isn't Martin Schulze!!! I was sent a mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the url of this thread, if you can read my
name isn't cited in the news.The DWN issue #6
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Monday 10 February 2003 12:22 am, Steve Fox wrote:
The only thing in doubt is the reference
to 'Mandrake developers', which makes it sound like Mandrakesoft
employees were in this discussion, which
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:41, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Monday 10 February 2003 03:15 am, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Stupid estimation! My name isn't Martin Schulze!!! I was sent a mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the url of this thread, if you can
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:34, Guy.Bormann wrote:
On 10 Feb 2003, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox
this might be just the place to put a plug in for the mandrake-ot mail list,
something created by a mandrake user, to help keep S-N-R to the min.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the e-mail address, and it uses sympa so the
commands should be something most can handle, and if they need any further
help,
Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
and move the idea's and effort into making debian a better distro instead of
duplicating the effort?
one main difference with debian, is that mandrake (tries to) takes
into account the users's needs (and not only
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie?
Just a lurker on this thread (since it's really gone awry), but I would
say definitely not. You've been a very good diplomat for the Debian
project.
--
Steve Fox
http://k-lug.org
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie?
Just a lurker on this thread (since it's really gone awry), but I would
say definitely not. You've been a very good diplomat for the
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 18:05, Gustavo Franco wrote:
I was sent a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] talking about the topics discussed
here, this thread will be reported in the next issue of Debian Weekly
News(DWN) [1].
[1] = http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/Writing/DWN/dwn-2003-06.html
Brilliant! What
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On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie?
Just a lurker on this thread
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 22:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
In my estimation, you have completely misrepresented the discussion that was
going on here by substituting your own wishful thinking and by using out of
context comments by people committed to making Mandrake successful. That is
not being a
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mandrake as a new project inside Debian.But it was refused here, many feels
involved.But if you change the original idea, try debian-project ML.The
Debian-Mandrake can receive financial support of SPI as described by
Goerzen, more and more developers,
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than Debain does, unless Debian has XFS+ACL
This is an honest
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:34 pm, John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than
On Saturday 08 February 2003 18:34, John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 17:34, John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than Debain
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 16:12, Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Saturday 08 February 2003 18:34, John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The latest Debian release, called Woody doesn't supports XFS officially,
but you can use a solution[1] made by a developer.The reason is very
simple: Stability first, features[2] after.
If your choice is: Features first.Debian can solve your problems
John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than Debain does, unless Debian has XFS+ACL
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 18:53, Buchan Milne wrote:
John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives
You know, the best thing about Linux is that nobody forces you to use
anything that you don't want to. In other words, not one person is
forcing anybody to use or to contribute to Mandrake. If you feel that
you are not getting what you need from Mandrake, then for heaven's sake
please go find
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and out of context...
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:28, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
You know, the best thing about Linux is that nobody forces you to use
anything that you don't want to. In other words, not one person is
forcing anybody to use or to contribute to Mandrake. If you feel that
you are not getting what you
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:28, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and out of context...
Definitely, i agree.But some people are
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 22:28, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and out of context...
Well, I think, for the good of all
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:51, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 22:28, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie?
ET, stands up waving both arms above head like a mad man who has been stuck on
a desert island for years, upon seeing his rescue ship.
Lonnie spoke for me too..
Before I reply to your message, Michael, let me briefly let people
know why I'm involved :-) I've been a Debian developer since 1995 or
so, and someone recently posted to our developer's list information
about this thread, and I would like to try to offer a bit of insight
on what Debian has done
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PS: Some friends have always argued that the debian way is the only
sustainable way to go. If mdk is going to do it just like debian, why
not fold and move the idea's and effort into making debian a better
distro instead of duplicating the effort?
Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think Mandrake goal has always be very different from debian one.
Mandrake is a distribution focused on user, aimed to ease linux access
to everybody, and which is very reactive and on the cutting edge.
Debian is more developper oriented and with a
Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the lines of the Debian Desktop project. Or, joining the existing
Desktop and installer projects.
Are you serious?
No, just opening Pandora's Box a little :-)
Really, I'm just putting forth options, which may be really bad or may
be really good. As I
Le Vendredi 7 Février 2003 19:51, John Goerzen a écrit :
I would like to try to offer a bit of insight
on what Debian has done right, what Debian has done wrong, and perhaps
explore some areas Debian can work together with the Mandrake
community in the future.
You 're welcome.
I also like
Michael Scherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. A developer is still maintaining a package, but wants to stop
2. A developer has stopped maintaining the package and wants to let
others know about it.
Well, orphaned package need to be adopted before any work is done on it,
that's right ?
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